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Trump won 2600 counties

That's how we know it was hacked!

Autocomplete blacklist?

So, he's complaining that if you want to search for "Crooked Hillary," you have to type the whole phrase, it won't complete it for you?

Oh, your aching fingers, evil google making you have to type another seven whole characters. I am so sorry you have to do all that extra work.

By the way, it's not really news. Here's Boing-boing in 2010: http://boingboing.net/2010/09/... (pointing to a list at 2600.com: http://www.2600.com/googleblac... )

I got tired of trying to find it at B&N and Micro Center so I bought a lifetime subscription a few months back ($260).

It's hard for a quarterly magazine to be timely in our web based world of 0-day exploits, but I have a soft spot for this one. There's generally two articles in each issue that really get me thinking along some new lines or offer a nice method to make the daily sysadmin grind a bit easier. A really great bathroom magazine.

As it says at the linked explanation, 2600 is not a charity, and they're not seeking donations -- but they would like you to buy the magazine (in print or Kindle form),

If you feel like buying the current issue isn't enough, and/or can't make it to NYC for the conference, they have bulk prices on back issues ($5/issue or less). I don't regularly read 2600, but I think they are an important resource for the security community.

[I think Cubans have bigger worries] than being denied particular coursework on an Internet they're not allowed to access anyway.

Since when? According to 2600 the only website blocked in Cuba is a propaganda radio.
Cuba is doing much better than other Caribbean countries. They don't get to elect a singer with no idea of what he is doing for the Presidency (unlike Haiti), but the statistics that matter, like quality of life, education, healthcare, look good.

Your idea of Cuba comes from Cold War-era propaganda. The Cold War is over. You can leave your bunker now. Sadly, we lost. The fascists won, despite not even taking part in it.

They are asking that their trademarked name be removed from the url and that their trademarked logo be removed from the site. That's entirely reasonable defense of their trademark

No. It is not. The logo, yes, the "trademarked name be removed from the url", no. A url is no different than any other mention of a name, and corporations don't get to use trademark law to stop people using their name to talk about them. If sites like http://www.verizonsucksass.com/ and http://www.verizonfraud.com/ are ok -- Verizon tried unsuccessfuly to use trademark law to sqaush such domains -- https://fixubuntu.com/ is ok too.

http://www.2600.com/

Cuba's had Internet access for years already http://www.2600.com/cuba/.

Oh, but they are. They've bought cheap texting rates.

They're now taking it a step further and following the lead of the Hollywood and studio executives with entitlement complexes, who demand unskippable commercials and ad skipping is stealing, not just if they switch channels or fast forward on a PVR ("copyright infringement"), but even if they leave the room for a bathroom break ("I guess there's a certain amount of tolerance for going to the bathroom.")

If they know that a group of interest meets at 8pm on the 1st, 17th and 23rd of each month, and you buy a Latte from the Starbucks next door to the meeting place only on those days at 7:45pm, then you become a person of interest.

Technically its the first Friday of the month 5 to 8 local time. But whatever.

http://www.2600.com/meetings/

Here is the link to 2600 website with the DVDs that you can get of the talks.

Get 'em right here.

Oh yeah, there's music there too. Have I said enough to get Slashdot shut down for linking, and armed men in black uniforms sent to my house to terrorize me? No? Well, how about a few more links:

• Project Gutenberg
• MusOpen
• Library of Congress
• A used bookstore
• An audio file format with no DRM
• The Pirate Bay
• The Pirate Bay via an IP address
• A porn site
• An Arabic news site
• A hacker magazine
• Wikipedia article on 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

When Mitnick came out of prison he was out of the loop for a while so that's knid of an unfair comparison. Besides, Mitnick used his position to start his own company - and being a famous hacker is a damn good selling point. Still, in a strange twist he made awful decisions for his own company: http://www.2600.com/news/view/article/1531 . And if I was at all security related this is the first kind of person I'd be looking for. I mean think about it, who would you hire to do a security audit: someone who's broken into tons of systems or someone with an MCSE who took a weekend seminar about how to make IIS suck less?

I was listening to a 2600 radio show podcast from a few months ago where they had the guy who made TV-B-Gone. I think it was a fund-raising show if that helps out for anyone looking for it. He talked about how they went over to China and looked into places for manufacturing. The place they chose has high quality chefs on premises to make food for the workers as well as giving lots of educational improvement to them. The factory found that keeping the workers happy leads to better production and less turn-over. The extra cost that TV-B-Gone had to pay to go with a morally sound factory rather than a Foxcon was around 10 or 25 cents per piece (I realize that is a large spread, I don't remember the exact number). So it is possible to find factories in China who treat their people well, make a good product, and are still rather cheap.

Lyonnaise de Garantie is the problem here, not the French government. Sure, this is a bad ruling, but that happens all the time in court systems. Simply put, they are trying to litigate away someone's opinion of them.

This is not a bad ruling at all. Google spent the time and effort to avoid this autocomplete behavior in ENGLISH. In fact, it was already done when autocomplete went live. But it appears as though Google simply ignored all other languages.

Google has a very hard time arguing that they are not responsible for the results when their own actions demonstrate that they knew it was a bad idea to let the algorithm run without a blacklist. And so far, judges are not at all impressed. This is not the first time they have lost a case like this.

I read people on Slashdot from time to time that talk about taking their job seriously and being responsible for their work. Well here you fucking go. This is irresponsible behavior by what was probably a whole chain of command of people inside Google.

http://www.circuitcellar.com/

http://www.2600.com/

http://www.linux-magazine.com/ (Linux Pro)

Kevin Mitnick was recently on Colbert Report to promote his book. Here is the link if anyone's interested.

Yeah, thats the "7 digit UID new school /."

The old school 5 digit UID and below /. crowd would have reported that Kevin was on 2600 / off the hook "recently" to promote the book. Which show was it? I donno, probably one of these:

http://www.2600.com/offthehook/2011/0811.html

I listened; it was a fairly interesting interview.

Somewhere in between old school and new school, he was on some TWIT network show recently too, apparently this one:

http://www.twit.tv/show/triangulation/21

The twit network is generally a little too non-technical / mass market for me, although they certainly easily are more interesting than TV. I think it would be hilarious if Leo purchased the "tech tv" trademark from whoever owns it using his apparently voluminous petty cash fund (if you've seen his new studio, you'd know what I mean)

Now someone else chime in with his Dr. Phil episode for that / newbie tone. thats what the 8 digit UIDs watch, or so I hear.

Ok, my apologies - it appears the word sex itself isn't on the blacklist. But almost any word following it is. See http://www.2600.com/googleblacklist/ for an interesting list. (Note: don't do it from work, your corporate filter will not be impressed).

Replying to my own post:

The Google Blacklist

Obviously, all you have to do is hit return to get the results like you always could. However, even when your request isn't blacklisted, you're not getting the SAME results that you would get by hitting return. Entering "murder" into the search bar and hitting a space gets you suggestions of mostly band names. It's only after you hit return that you can learn the other sinister meaning of the word. What we have here is a demonstration of how content can be filtered, controlled, and ultimately suppressed. It is indeed a good thing that Google isn't evil.

The algorithm was designed to keep this stuff from happening. This case was nothing more than a simple oversight on Google's part. Their response was poor and arrogant.

Just a few more in the list, and just as weak as their previous filtering attempts. Someone put up this site almost immediately when instant search came out http://www.2600.com/googleblacklist/ and it points quite a lot of funny examples or words that do or don't get filtered very inconsistently. Mind you, if you enter "bit" it shows bitcomet (a bittorrent client), doesn't filter out eMule and other non-torrent P2P programs, and for "thep" or "pir" the first result is thepiratebay. Doesn't filter out any other trackers that I know of either. For autocomplete it's no different, even better - shows an ad for thepiratebay on top of the suggestions and lists more torrent clients.
Clearly it's not an effective censorship/filtering of any sort, which leads me to wonder why exactly is it that way. I doubt Google programmers are stupid and would miss a lot of obvious things. What's more likely is that they aren't comfortable with this either and try to block as little as possible - just enough to satisfy managers and/or companies complaining.

You mean you weren't aware that they were extensively blocking instant search result since the launch? This list went up months ago http://www.2600.com/googleblacklist/

Some times the slippery slope argument is valid, this is one of those cases. The argument that users shouldn't be able to find bittorrent results "too easily" is actually weaker than the argument that users* just shouldn't be able to find bittorrent results so the jump seems imminent.

* Except law enforcement, politicians and members of the MAFIAA of course.

How about the argument that users should be able to search for what they want, but Google should have the right to not suggest certain controversial searches?

By your reasoning, here is an entire list of things that Google is going to start censoring from their search results, any minute now.

Not too long ago the norm was actually for transponders to simply be open.

He means like this

The link off that page is dead, but I'll save you the trouble - Captain Midnight didn't do anything to a satellite.

Satellite hacking has been a commercially available service for some years now - don't know if they're still offering the service (their prices look a little old) but these folks can help.

An example of what's available from a hijacked surveillance drone is here.

Disclaimer:- this is just a hobby.

Not too long ago the norm was actually for transponders to simply be open.

He means like this

I'd vote for Indymedia, 2600, Wikileaks, Pirate Bay, Pirate Parties International, the EFF, FSF, and cDc communications to regulate the Internet. And Open Meshshould be the direction of growth. Ok then, we aren't going to get to coordinate "The Internet", we'll settle for The ParallelNet. There's enough geeks for it.

Amongst nerds (which is pretty much whoever is following it on this site) - to 'hack' does not meant the same as 'to crack'.

You know, for many of us, we simply don't care about this whiny distinction between "hacking and cracking".

It's stupid -- back in the day, you could hack some code, or you could hack into a system, or you could pull off a hack and hang a volkswagon from a bridge or make your calculator to something cool that nobody expect. We understood the difference between these things, and it was all one word.

You whiny kids who think you "own" the language and have to be telling everybody the "right" want to say it are just fooling yourselves. Even in the nerd community you think you represent, for many of us "hack" still means exactly what you claim it doesn't. Hell, 2600 has been around since the 80's, and it's always been hacker -- it's got a shitload more street cred than you kids who think that it's always been differentiated. Anybody under 40 who is saying anything about what is "hack" and what is "crack" is too fucking young to know what they're talking about.

It's all the same fucking thing -- "cracker" is a very recent word, and quite an arbitrary distinction which people tried to apply after the fact to make what they did sound less evil and dissociate itself from malicious break-in type stuff. Get over it.

Now, STFU, and get off my fucking lawn.

If the old guard has decided to play it dirty, so should we.

I completely understand the strong gut level desire to lash out, but aren't the rest of us better than the banks? Just as we have to suppress animal rage when encountering bad drivers, we should take a few breaths and step back to make more reasoned responses.

I respect people who disagree with me feeling that DDOS attacks are a form of terrorism (obviously a mild one), but I don't think I deserved a troll mod for saying that. I think when some people see a bank site taken down, they may have fears of identity theft, late payment penalties, loss of access to gas at some unattended plastic-driven station in the middle of nowhere late at night etc...
Although DDOS is congestion and not a break-in, much of the public may not understand that.
(It was ONLY the DDOS attacks, not Wikileaks, that I was associating with terrorist behavior)

Wikileaks is on a higher moral ground, working to prevent harm by redacting key details, functioning as a journalist. With media consolidation and the influence of advertising dollars, there are fewer and fewer media organizations willing and able to tackle highly controversial stories. With Los Angeles losing KCET TV as the primary PBS affiliate there, PBS may be harmed financially, and station viewers outside the range of remaining smaller PBS stations may have no over the air signal available (Santa Barbara for instance).

Even 2600 Magazine has come out against the use of DDOS attacks.
http://www.2600.com/news/view/article/12037

Wikileaks is getting plenty of exposure without the "help" of outside sympathizers risking arrest by attacking in this way. To the extent that some won't realize it's outsiders, they may actually undermine Wikileaks credibility. I think people can vent positively and legally. Vote with your wallets, call email write or fax your bank or Paypal or Ebay, consider picketing. Act positively. Contribute to organizations you believe in (that kind of thing could have kept PBS on KCET for example). Try to work within the system, acting in a way that is consistent with the openness, honesty and fairness you're fighting for.

And you just have to post a link to the useless blog post instead of the actual list at the more respected source, 2600.

Say what you will about Adrian, but his razor-sharp wit is absolutely hilarious. Check out his Q&A at Formspring.me where you can ask him anything (do it now! :D). Unlike other whiny angry h4x0rs, the dude is an absolute geek comedian.

His candor is pretty refreshing and his comedy rebel streak is a bit reminiscent of Banksy.

Oh, and he's also to public face of 2600: The Hacker Quarterly on Facebook.

Anybody who was watching MSNBC's Countdown around 2008-2009 know that there's a highly controlled rooms at AT&T where nearly all long distance telephone traffic flow through and while curious AT&Ters are not allowed, government agents are.

Anybody who's been reading the Telecom Informer in 2600 for years now has been aware of the scope of the governments monitoring capabilities in that sector. And I'm sure they're not the only source but I'll be damned if I let you attribute that information to an MSNBC program.

lol.

Am I the only still buying copies of 2600?

Am I the only leaving words out of my sentences?

Oh, I not.

I've never left a word out one of your sentences in my life!

Am I the only still buying copies of 2600?

Am I the only leaving words out of my sentences?

Oh, I not.

Am I the only still buying copies of 2600?

If you don't know of this quarterly magazine, look it up. It emphasizes the value of curiosity, while often providing templates for additional investigation. Some of the content is crap, but most of the time there's at least a few things of value.

Check it out.

Yes, I can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with the SS. They have a spotless record!

The S.S. isn't your average cop, they're for counterfeiting and protecting the President of the US, (and foreign and domestic dignitaries)

You sure about that?

I think you just missed the reference...

http://www.2600.com/news/view/article/1113

You can just read the archives of 2600 here Gay Hackers

being a smart ass may not be "smart", depending upon how you look at it or how much you value your time, but it is definitely NOT illegal. REI can read him the trespass act AND they can ask him to leave, but they cannot physically force him to leave or even detain him until the real police arrive (false imprisonment is a serious charge, and unless they had proof of shoplifting then REI could be in BIG trouble for doing it). However in this case, since the Loomis people didn't touch him and neither did REI I don't really think that suing will get him anywhere since the real police, who did the handcuffing, enjoy broad immunity to do their jobs and exercise their professional judgement (or lack thereof as in this case).

If we have any law enforcement readers here on Slashot then please don't take this the wrong way, but it has been my experience that the law enforcement profession in general and the rank and file in particular tend to be authoritarian dicks with lower IQs, less creativity, and generally less ability to appreciate the subtleties of life situations that would allow a more sophisticated person to exercise better judgment. Case in point, treating the geek with an iPhone like he was some gang-tattooed ex-con with a handle bar mustache and a jacket two inches thick. They could have just asked each side for their version of the story, confirmed that he must leave the store and not return (as per the request of REI under the trespassing laws), and then ONLY if the blooger refused to leave, physically escort him out of the store. I have heard high ranking law enforcement officials say that, "Police do what every honest citizen should be doing, but on a full time basis". If that is true then why do so many police officers behave like dicks? Granted, there are asshole citizens out there too, but not as many as the number of asshole police officers would tend to suggest if the police are supposed be a reflection of the citizenry at large.

Note: If you are reading this Shane, then you should definitely pass this one on to 2600 magazine, they will have a field day with it.

Its not that "the need for the users to have a friend that they can goto with their questions", but rather Linux users need more friends. Lets admit it, we don't have many that we've met in person.

Maybe, but it's not like there are not plenty of oppurtunities to utilize.

How about the 2600 DeCSS code linking decision?

Links to DeCSS found ILLEGAL.

I googled for the ecrime howto but couldn't find it. Link please.

Try reading this zine and this zine, too. This is also recommended. Try here, too. Start searching forums, IRC, etc. Subscribe to all the major vulnerability sites, too. Learn to code, if you don't already know how. Get skills in C, assembler, Java, SQL, Visual Basic, Python, PHP, Perl, Unix, Linux, Windows, DNS, TCP/IP, routing protocols, Apache, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle, etc. Understand how networks and systems work, architecturally speaking, from a high-level all the way down to the physical hardware.

The learning curve is pretty steep for anyone who wishes to ascend beyond the level of 'l337 skr1p7 k1dd13'.

Be aware, however, that the penalties for getting caught are very high. Think Kevin Mitnick.

Wonder why those agencies are using such an "unsecure" platform...?

Me too.

DHS has been hacked
FBI has been hacked
Navy has been hacked
Air Force has been hacked.

Yes, we all hate the DMCA, but I don't think a court has ruled on whether it is illegal to take DRM off of a legally purchased file. Remember, the law is what the courts say it is, not what the legislatures say it is.

Well the courts have certainly ruled that it is illegal to even link to a program that is capable of taking the DRM off a legally purchased file, so I wouldn't press the point unless you can afford a legal battle and the fines that result.

There was ship-wide wifi, and normally you'd sign on to a web page that appeared before it granted you access.
 
That's funny. I just read an article in 2600 about a guy getting around metered (pay for) WiFi access at a hotel. It is in Volume 25 Issue 4 titled Hacking Dubai and More Internet Proxy Loopholes. They have had other articles in past issues as well.

If they are running some type of Internet Cafe package to control the WiFi access, I bet there is away to get around it. Pickup a copy of 2600 Volume 25 Issue 4 for more info or of course google is always your friend. Who knows, maybe if you find away around the metered WiFi, you could write your own 2600 article.

Why don't the fuckin commie pirates just plunder some where else, like to hell from where they came!!

Unfortunately, the US Congress keeps passing legislation that enables these fuckin commie pirates to continue to plunder out culture and destroy anyone who threatens their outdated business model.

On the October 1st edition of Off the Hook, Kevin Mitnick talks about how he was recently detained in an airport because because the FBI told customs that he was under suspicion for cocaine smuggling. (A charge which he was cleared of in a matter of hours). It's a fun story to listen to, but the lessons boil down to:

1. You're still protected by the 5th Amendment if you're a U.S. citizen, even at the border. Although Mitnick consented to a search of his personal data and told the agents lots of stuff he wasn't required to, he did so with the intent of getting the whole thing cleared up so he could get out of there quicker. His lawyer later advised him that he only should have told them his basic personal information and travel plans and kept silent about everything else.

2. Don't carry any privileged, sensitive, or classified information with you when you travel. Even encrypted. In today's wired world and near-ubiquitous Internet access, there's just no excuse. You carry a "blank" trusted laptop with you and access your data remotely via an encrypted link.

3. The new boot-to-Linux-firmware feature on laptops is priceless at customs encounters. Maybe they'll pick up on it eventually (they'll probably consider it some devious deceptive thing), but for now it fools them into thinking that what they see in the flash-based Linux desktop is the whole computer.

Regardless of who's suing who in this mess, there won't be any new precedent set about linking to a website. 2600 Magazine won a court case in 2001 when Ford Motor Company tried to stop 2600 from linking to their website. Not only that, but one of the original sites from the tussle is still up. Here is the original news announcement from 2600.

Aero

Regardless of who's suing who in this mess, there won't be any new precedent set about linking to a website. 2600 Magazine won a court case in 2001 when Ford Motor Company tried to stop 2600 from linking to their website. Not only that, but one of the original sites from the tussle is still up. Here is the original news announcement from 2600.

Aero

Is this still Slashdot?

How can anyone here forget the 2600 case? http://www.2600.com/news/view/article/1233

Attempts to prevent linking to websites are unfortunately as old as ... well, as old as the Web itself.