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> That isn't necessarily the poster's fault. It is the media's fault for not reporting everything

Ten years ago I might have agreed - getting decent media in Hicksville, Idaho might be difficult. But nowadays, aljazeera , BBC , Spiegel etc are just a click away.

Concerning Aljazeera, here is an interesting article that shows how corrupt our admin is, but you will not see it on fox news.

Can you reach any of those pages?

http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage/
http://www.korea-dpr.com/
http://www.iran-daily.com/1384/2389/html/
http://www.cubaweb.cu/

If so, you're making use of a system maintained by the US Government.

Now try acessing
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/coredocs.html/ from China or

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=b s&sbrftog=1&catref=C6&fstype=1&from=R10&satitle=na zi+hitler&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&bs=Search&sargn=- 1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=ZIP%2FPostal&ftrt=1&f trv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction =compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search&fgtp= from Germany or France.

Seriously, who would you rather have in charge of the internet?

I thought this was great news for those in the market for a new PC relic, but after a little searching look what I found! A crappy, old fragment costs $380,000! That's just a motherboard, really, and they used to cost about $100. The NewEgg site (which hasn't yet been updated to consider PCs' relicdom) puts your CPU at a little over $350, which means that, proportionally, they're now more than one million, three hundred and thirty thousand dollars!!1 If you got your PC for less than six million, by God, you've been blessed.

"The IEA figures put the total spare capacity of all 11 countries in OPEC at just 330,000 bpd (down from 6 million bpd in 2002). Conventional Saudi spare capacity is zero." http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/0234CBB3-16 9D-42DF-8B33-6BEFF80FA478.htm Saudi Arabian fields probably past peak production: http://www.thestreet.com/_tsccom/funds/supermodels /10174679.html

First off, the gestapo did a LOT more than just murdering jews. They spent a lot of time monitoring as many of their citizens as possible. Basically, you did not dare speak out, as the person next to you may very well be SS.

Next, we ARE a lot closer than what we were even a decade ago. Now, that gov. are tracking citizens and listening in their voice and internet coversations, how is that different than what gestapo did to the average german citizen? Likewise, the reason why so many fought against FDR's Social Security was that they were afraid that the SSN could be used in part of a national ID (interestingly, the republican party fought it hard based on that). The more that a gov. tracks and listens, the easier it is for the next one, to extend that further. They all say that is for the "good of the nation" or for "homeland defense".

A good example is China now has forced abortion on women and forced sterilization on both sexes. We are not talking a 1-2 months abortions, but 9 month (ready to deliver). Now, with this kind of tech., how easy will it be for a gov. to say, oh, we know that you are pregnant by listening in on coversations. And yes, if China is doing this now, how soon will other govs. decide to do the same? Perhaps, they have decided that junior there does not have the genetic make-up that is desirable. But of course, we both know that a gov. would NEVER take that step. Right?

And no western gov. would ever spend their effort listening in on all their citizens.

And no western gov. would ever control the press by locking up foreign journalist (say known musleum reporters in a war zone) or allowing their own press to be owned by just a few friendly companies in which the CEO and "moderators" decide what is ok to print/tell/view.

And no western gov. would try to control those who do have intimate knowledge of deals

10 years ago, I would have though ppl crazy for thinking that a DB is bad. Now, In light of what has happened over the last 5 years, I have changed my mind.

• Shujaat, al-Jazeera's editorial comic.
• Mondo Mini Shows, a holdover from the dot-com boom.

Enjoy.

Ok, now include Taiwan. In our lifetimes we will likely see a reunification after the fall of communism, imho. With China's resources and Taiwan's brains in technology they will have the potential to be the most powerful nation the world has ever seen. They may be sending us rice when we are starving to death because less than 5% of our population could survive a great depression, billionares and farmers. Everyone is so dependent on food made from untenable farmer subsidy programs that is delivered by short sighted oil subsidy programs that the starvation of the USA could become the largest humanitarian crisis with a severe disruption to any number of things. If I was a terrorist and I had a nuke I would not even think about New York or LA the name on my lips would be Gharwar or something like it. No one has detonated a nuke in a oil well but I could not imagine it would be a happy event and afterwards the oil would be useless because of the radiation. Hell if they have enough dirty radioactive material they can just set up their own hidden pumps and pump it in.

For those who think Al Jazeera is a terrorist front, that must explain the long and (to me) well-written opinion piece they're carrying entitled "Al Qaeda: wrong answers to real problems" at http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/25D45C98-47 1B-4A36-8253-F2120BEA180F.htm

For those who are interested, http://www.aljazeera.com/ is a fake site registered in the UK and slanted to provide Western/Israeli propaganda. I don't know which agency runs it, but it's quite well done, provided the viewers have no knowledge of Arabic culture (the graphical styles are a dead give-away ). Compare and contrast the two.

No prescience required. Common sense and logic is all it takes. Something the proponents of war were all clearly short on, but quite long on adrenaline, lust to kill and self-righteous belief in their own infallibility. And they all have been proven wrong. So now you pretend that this prediction was somehow un-imaginably unlikely to be made correctly. Amusing to watch, but no one is buying this crap, and you know it.

Funny, if there were no WMDs where is your righteous indignation against all the children starved to death under UN sanctions against those very nonexistent WMDs?

Many of us (myself included) opposed the sanctions as ineffective and poorly targeted. The very same people however, who later were chief proponents of war, were insisting on the sanctions. US and UK hard-ons for Saddam were so large that they began stopping shipments of food and medicine, hoping to starve Iraq into revolt, and prevented charity organizations from sending relief. This alone tells everything one has to know about the fake concern of war proponents for the "Iraqi people". Were it not for stranded Indian workers, the resolution 666 would not have passed due to this vicious US and UK attitude and not even the crude, corrupt and unwieldy "food-for-oil" program would be in place.

Unless of course you claim that the UN proved to be too easily influenced and not resistant enough to belligerent US and UK pressure. In which case I do concur.

You're engaging in revisionist history. The UN wasn't verifying this, because the inspectors did not have the freedom they needed to verify it. But don't let the facts get in your way.

Quoth Scott Ritter:

I bear personal witness through seven years as a chief weapons inspector in Iraq for the United Nations to both the scope of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs and the effectiveness of the UN weapons inspectors in ultimately eliminating them.

While we were never able to provide 100 percent certainty regarding the disposition of Iraq's proscribed weaponry, we did ascertain a 90-95 percent level of verified disarmament. This figure takes into account the destruction or dismantling of every major factory associated with prohibited weapons manufacture, all significant items of production equipment, and the majority of the weapons and agent produced by Iraq.

With the exception of mustard agent, all chemical agent produced by Iraq prior to 1990 would have degraded within five years (the jury is still out regarding Iraq's VX nerve agent program - while inspectors have accounted for the laboratories, production equipment and most of the agent produced from 1990-91, major discrepancies in the Iraqi accounting preclude any final disposition at this time.)

The same holds true for biological agent, which would have been neutralized through natural processes within three years of manufacture. Effective monitoring inspections, fully implemented from 1994-1998 without any significant obstruction from Iraq, never once detected any evidence of retained proscribed activity or effort by Iraq to reconstitute that capability which had been eliminated through inspections.

Revisionist history indeed. Your specialty, may I add.

Zero over the fact that the UN left the Iraqi rebellion to die horribly after the first Gulf War

Right. I see. So the UN should have amassed an army and rolled over Iraq, helping the Shia, bringing "prosperity", "freedom" and "democracy" and to be, in return, showered with

The vast majority of native freedom fighters hates them, but they hate Americans more and are content to watch them blow themselves up.

Bin Laden's associates have also regained something they were losing in Afghanistan and didn't have in Iraq under Sadaam: a place to train terrorists for operations in many other places.

And, Lord knows, this was a slashdot-specific story, and you certainly couldn't have gotten details anywhere else before you opened your mouth.

"The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorised and displaced."

Looks the violent racist ccmay is making a retarded attempt at damage control.

In case anyone missed the wackos comment history:

http://209.157.64.200/focus/user-posts?id=27451

Just to illustrate what a fucking piece of garbage ccmay is, here is the full text of one of bin Laden's public speeches:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98 FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F61F.htm

Who between the two sounds like a dimwitted, viloent wackjob?

Here is a link to juxtapose to the idiotic and racist teenage scumbag parent.

bin Laden's US election speech:
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98 FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F61F.htm

Surah 76 is Al Insaan, which means The Human, not "Time." 76:4 "We prepared for the disbelievers chains, shackles, and a blazing Hell." People who refuse to believe in God will be sent to Hell. How does this explain "why some Muslims kill their neighbors" as you put it? Besides, what does Christianity say about not believing in God?

Surah 9 is Bara'ah, which means Ultimatum, not "Immunity." You also cut off the rest of the verse.

9:5 reads as "Once the Sacred Months are past, (and they refuse to make peace) you may kill the idol worshipers when you encounter them, punish them, and resist every move they make. If they repent and observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), you shall let them go. God is Forgiver, Most Merciful."

Surah 48 is the Victory. If you read the verse before what you quoted, it is referring to Judgement Day,

48:5 "That He may admit the men and women who believe, to Gardens beneath which rivers flow [in Paradise}, to dwell therein for aye, and remove their ills from them;- and that is, in the sight of God, the highest achievement (for man),-"

and 48:6 "And that He may punish the Hypocrites, men and women, and the Polytheists men and women, who imagine an evil opinion of God. On them is a round of Evil: the Wrath of God is on them: He has cursed them and got Hell ready for them: and evil is it for a destination."

"Fundamentalist Mullahs and Imams use this dogma to teach the gullible that jihad, killing infidels, is the only sure way into Paradise."

Arab World Condemns London Blasts. That seems to be the opposite of what you're claiming.

You mean al-Zarqawi been terrorist since he was 13 years old? Well, as far as I know he was indoctrined in 1996 and in 1999 he joined Afghanistan liberation war. Thereafter he traveled to iraq when "war on terror" attacked it.

Dont believe me? Try this Al-Zarqawi mentor rearrested

Man, you're so full of bullshit. Maybe because you are a Zeinfeld?

How much does the US give to Egypt? USD$1.3 Billion in military aid, and an average of $815 Million a year in economic assistance. That's the Lion's share of aid to the rest of the middle east.

How can you bring religion into this? The Israeli-Palestinian issue is a political struggle, though it has religious overtones. If you're going to start pointing fingers, have you read any right-wing Israeli press? There are Jewish extremists who claim that since they are the "chosen people of God" that they have the right to do as they wish. That's not "looking down on us," as you claim? Some settlers are saying it's OK to kill as many non-Jews as necessary if it protects even one Jew.

What has always worried me about the so called "war on terrorism" is

a) The intense volume and passion with which our leaders boast their efforts to counter terrorism. This may win hearts, minds and votes at home. But when the same speech is televised live on Al Jazeera it is interpreted by many muslims almost like Osama bin Laden speeches are interpreted by us.
b) The ridiculous use of bombs causing huge explosions and the massive stationing of uniformed military personell in the environments that are most sensitive to the perceived consequences of western influence. You might kill a terrorist or two, but the propaganda value of the TV pictures create 10 new ones.

I don't object to using a lot of resources to combat terror. Neither do I believe that anti-terror measures should have a lower priority.

But we could do it a lot more intelligently:
i)By using our resources to increase our capabilities for clandestine operations.
ii)By whacking all the terrorists we find and then shut up about it.
iii)By tripling the number of people following the different terrorist money trails.
iv)By quadroupling the efforts to set up schooling arrangements that aren't bogged down with religious crap in the concerned muslim countries.
v)By investing a lot more in pro-western media (propaganda) directed at a muslim audience.
vi)On every other level: By staying out of these people's affairs and let them sort out their own problems.

And - most importantly - to keep such a well financed campaign against terrorism effective we STFU about it as much as possible, thereby making it less easy for militant terrorist to paint a convincing picture of an actual enemy.

Therein lies the rub, I guess. Since the politicans need public support for their antiterrorism spending, they will keep using high profile tactics (with a lot of bang for the buck). They will also keep on boasting their achievements to get the funding that they need. Kind of sad really.

Good thing then that they're going to be liberated soon (Note the author: Scott Ritter - American ex-UN weapons inspector.) Is anyone else noticing the steady stream of Iran-is-bad articles in the press lately? Very deja vuish to 2002.

It's important to remember that most Iranians are not Arabs. There is a small but significant Arab minority in Iran, notably in the Khuzestan region, but they make up only about 3% of Iran's population.
This isn't meant to be pedantic: it makes a big difference to the ethnic politics of the Middle East.

there was a direct correlation between the amount of mecury pollution in the area and the rate of autism in the area. Here's a randomly chosen link:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/34AD7ABA-F1 F1-4677-9A24-CEB4FA637690.htm

Anyway, if it really was the vaccines (which I find higly unlikely) then shouldn't we have had a HUGE drop off in autsim rates over the last few years?

Yeah, memri.org does a good job if you like Israeli backed propoganda websites that try to make all arabs look like fanatics. Do a little research on memri and disregard it as a source. Learn arabic and watch al-jazeera for yourself or go to http://english.aljazeera.net/english/ . Or there was a well done documentary about al-jazeera's coverage of the Iraq war called "Control Room" it is circling the p2p networks.

Incidentally, I had to go to Al Jazeera to find that passage- CNN, those J-school dropouts, post a heavily edited version without even mentioning that it was edited.

Yeah, I remember reading the original statement:
"And it was to these sorts of notions and their like that the British diplomat and others were referring in their lectures at the Royal Institute of International Affairs. [When they pointed out that] for example, al-Qaida spent $500,000 on the event, while America, in the incident and its aftermath, lost - according to the lowest estimate - more than $500 billion.

Meaning that every dollar of al-Qaida defeated a million dollars by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs.

As for the size of the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars.

And even more dangerous and bitter for America is that the mujahidin recently forced Bush to resort to emergency funds to continue the fight in Afghanistan and Iraq, which is evidence of the success of the bleed-until-bankruptcy plan - with Allah's permission.

It is true that this shows that al-Qaida has gained, but on the other hand, it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something of which anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be convinced. And it all shows that the real loser is ... you."here)

Actually, at the time I was kind of shocked at the self-imposed censorship of the American media. Sometimes I think the USA has achieved a more effective way of brain-wahing than the Soviets could have ever dreamed of...No in-depth analysis in news media, no space for political discussion, people afraid to vent their political views, a presidential campagin that can only be won with loads of money, indirect elections for president, moralism, fear of "communism" (or, as the neo-macarthist term would have it today "anti-americanism"), etc. And, no, I'm, no a lefty.

Those damn thieves really put the dimmer on that magic! (great source,eh?). Yep, I just don't know how the industry is going to survive all this thievery. Just how much worse does it have to get before people get off their butts and do something?

• Aljazeera, the news service the US doesn't like.
• Stormfront, one of the last remnants of the Klu Klux Klan.
• Cocaine synthesis instructions, which somebody probably doesn't like being out there.
• Elements of Thermonuclear Weapon Design, how an H-bomb works.
• How to build a truck bomb, by Timothy McVeigh.

Are any of these blocked in your area?

My bad; thank you. The correct link for Al-Jazeera is http://english.aljazeera.net

You actually can have freedom shoved down your throat, it just takes a whole hell of a lot more force then the US is willing to use these days. Case in point, look at Germany and Japan. These are both nations that were occupied by the US and now are thriving democracies.

The big difference is that Germany and Japan coalized together to dominate the whole world and destroy Democracy. Their occupation was following their military defeat at the hands of allies, and those allies then formed the United Nations which then mandated the occupation of those countries.

You wanna show a few images of dead Americans or anti-Bush riots? Fine, go ahead. You do it daily without focusing on other topics?

Doesn't sound to me like you've actually seen Al Jazeera. Check it out. You'll find alot more than stories about US atrocities. They may be biased, but no more so than most American news sources. And yes they show pictures of dead Americans. Why? Because Americans ARE dieing, and unlike the US media, they feel no obligation to downplay this.

• BBC
• CBC
• Al-Jazeera

acording to ajazeera it now takes the earth 3 miliseconds less for a full rotation.

read the article here

You know, it's stuff like this that the terrorists want. They want us to lose our freedoms to overzealous anti-terrorism laws, they want us to live in fear. Suggestions like this article must make Bin Laden smile.

Bullshit. "Terrorists hate freedom" is just bushite propaganda. Terrorists want freedom. They want americans to stop messing with their countries and freedom to take their own fate to their own hands. And yes, they want the american hands off their oil wells and other properties. They may use fear as a tool to achieve their ends, but fear as such isn't their object.

Just read and think carefully what Osama bin Laden really says. His rules and his message is very clear: "Your security is in your own hands. And every state that doesn't play with our security has automatically guaranteed its own security." That this cruel, admittedly slightly disturbed terrorist sounds much more intelligble, rational and humane than american government is really frightening.

Google News does index al Jazeera. Look up something specific not well covered in the Western press and it will come up. So it's being crawled.

A good way to see Google's bias is to search regular Google for "bin laden" video. Al Jazeera has a full transcript of the latest bin Laden video, and Google's PageRank system gives that the top ranking. But that article isn't even on the first page of Google News for the same search.

This is significant, because the Bush campaign pressured the US press not to report on that video in its entirity. Not because of any connection to terrorism. They just didn't like this part:

• ... we have not found it difficult to deal with the Bush administration in light of the resemblance it bears to the regimes in our countries, half of which are ruled by the military and the other half which are ruled by the sons of kings and presidents.

  Our experience with them is lengthy, and both types are replete with those who are characterised by pride, arrogance, greed and misappropriation of wealth.

Looks like Google caved, too.

Considering that many think that the election was rigged and that Al Qaeda, Iran, and North Korea wanted GWB, I would not worry too awfully much.

• Assassination Politics by Jim Bell
• The American Holocaust
• Anarchist's Cookbook
• Icky, unpatriotic, morbid beheading videos and such
• Bias to balance U.S. news bias
• Map of the White House
• Location of NYC water resevoirs
• Alex Jones loves progress!
• Economic terrorism #1 - buy nothing day
• Economic terrorism #2 - evil ad-skipping Tivo
• Economic terrorism #3 - running out of oil isn't a conspiracy theory.
• Economic terrorism #4 - the top 10 most fuel efficient cars of 2005 :)
• The widening wealth gap
• Paper trails make it much harder to steal elections
• Hamster dance!

If jackboot thug out there wants to arrest me for "implicitly supporting" the content of any of these links, feel free to abuse the PATRIOT ACT in order to force slashdot.org to reveal the IP address associated with this post, and in turn my ISP will reveal my name and home address associated with the DHCP lease (because I didn't bother to post through an anonymous proxy(s)). tinfoil_hat_mode off.

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Then there will be pressure to apply it to whitehouse.org, which is an anti-Bush satire site.

Then redirecting al-Jazeera to Fox News...

Al-Jazeera: Mozilla's Firefox renews browser war

Let's hope you're not citing it in your research paper.

I've seen it cited on Aljazeera such as here.

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In a March 3, 2004, interview, Senator Clinton told CNN's Lou Dobbs that America must "quit giving incentives to people for moving jobs offshore." She also said "if we do nothing, we're going to continue to export American jobs." The senator appeared to be against outsourcing, but her actions speak louder than words.

Seven days later Hillary Clinton welcomed Tata Consultancy Services (TCS), a branch of Tata Group, an Indian conglomerate, to New York at an event with a host of other officials. Arup Gupta, president of TCS America, claimed last year that on development work, TCS sends 70 percent of the work offshore, and 30 percent is done in the United States. This fact didn't seem to faze the senator who proudly claimed that Tata created a full "10 jobs" for Buffalo. http://www.technewsworld.com/story/35042.html

Note to Dem's: You lost. get over it. move on. If it make you feel any better see the Moore site now looks like Aljazeera Wow! Shocker... This helps the U.S. how exactly?

"In addition, Bush (Senior) sanctioned the installing of sons as state governors, and didn't forget to import expertise (From the Middle Eastern Dictators) in election fraud from the region's presidents to Florida to be made use of in moments of difficulty." - Osama bin Ladin

"If the people have elected those governments in the latest elections, it is because they have fallen prey to the Western media which portray things contrary to what they really are. And while the slogans raised by those regimes call for humanity, justice, and peace, the behavior of their governments is completely the opposite. It is not enough for their people to show pain when they see our children being killed in Israeli raids launched by American planes, nor does this serve the purpose. What they ought to do is change their governments which attack our countries. - Osama, Again"

At a time when some of our compatriots were dazzled by America and hoping that these visits would have an effect on our countries, all of a sudden he (Bush Sr.) was affected by those monarchies and military regimes, and became envious of their remaining decades in their positions, to embezzle the public wealth of the nation without supervision or accounting.

So he took dictatorship and suppression of freedoms to his son and they named it the Patriot Act, under the pretence of fighting terrorism.

- Osama bin Ladin

So why didn't CNN link to the Full transcript of bin Ladin's speech? Perhaps because CNN is still desperately trying to spin a story they didn't fully report on in the first place.

Uncle Osama urges you to vote for Kerry if you know what's good for you:

Your security is in your own hands. And every state that doesn't play with our security has automatically guaranteed its own security.

Read the entire rant not just the select bits you hear on the news. Note especially how the person whose organization planned and executed mulitple terrorist attacks (African embassies, USS Cole, first WTC bombing) during the Clinton administration claims that 9/11 was because of Bush's policies concerning the Palestinians. Who was the #1 overnight guest in the Clinton White House? Arafat!

Thankfully Al Jazeera has finally released the Full transcript of bin Ladin's speech, but it is interesting what was left out of the CNN version.

Even with the full transcript available, CNN is desperately trying to spin what was actually said. It's factually correct, but boy did they focus on only what they wanted.

Let's face it, you don't need bin-laden to tell you we've been screwed by both parties.

If you *REALLY* want to get technical, both campaings could, theororetically, be prosecuted under anti-trust laws for their debate agreement or even racketeering (RICO statutes) for all the legal manoeuvres before, during, and likely after the elections. (Intimidation, voter fraud, extortion [vote for me or else everyone gets it], rigging an election [Nader's woes]...)

Yeah, I know I'm in a "swing state," yada, yada, yada, but I look at it this way: What if? I'll be voting for someone that really does represent my views best, and, if elected, would cause repurcussions in D.C. that would be felt around the world.

Unlike Ralph Nader he is on the ballot in 49 states.

One thing I got from the bin-laden transcript the media seems to miss is he is telling us we --the voter-- have the power to steer our country but our apathy has led us down this road of conflict.

I've voted every year since I was 18. I don't think I've wasted any votes except in the last election.

I won't do it again.

(oh, god, i'm gonna get flamed aren't I?)

Al-Jazerra released the real full transcript now two days later.

Not that I like him, but he made some points. And escpecially you should know the other side. Or are you already living in some kind of unfree Russia/China.

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You can mod me down, you may not be able to stand the truth, but be sure most probably truth will come on you.

or... you should read the whole thing

Al-Jazerra released the real full transcript now two days later.

Nobody will read this, because there are already over 1700 comments on this story. But there's now an - apparently - complete transcript of the full 16 minutes of bin Laden's recent video available on al-Jazeera's website.

There's some interesting content that doesn't feature in the shorter transcripts. And (more interestingly for me) - this was released at 1pm GMT today. Why are the major media sites not covering it?

(NB: moderators, this is clearly relevant to the US election :)