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...a rating system 'pur sang' is not a bad thing...

After making a few of my open source projects internationalized, I ran into a problem. The text files that need to be translated are in the Western character set (ISO-8859-1). This is a problem because characters outside this set all need to be escaped. People volunteering to translate didn't have the time or skill to figure out how to do that. I wrote a Java translation editor called Attesoro to make the process easier.

For open source projects I ran into some people that do their translations using Babelfish. The automatic translations are generally horrible, but they say that this almost always encourages somebody that knows the language to volunteer to do the job better. ;-)

What's involved in translating programs? Is there a process that can be followed to make the inevitable easier? Babel Fish [altavista.com] Did you know masturbate, according to Babel Fish, is the same in English, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, and Spanish? I wonder if the porn industry had their hands in this. Pardon the pun.

Can't even put down a URL , and calls himself a geek...

So I couldn't this one out. And googling didn't help much either.

The babelfish tells me that cadeau means gift in french. But it couldn't translate "Buon Natale a tutti voi Edo" into English. Translating from Italian, and the fish tells me it means: "Good NATO them to all you Edo", which evidently is a suggestion that we bring the Japanese into NATO. Which is interesting, as just yesterday I heard a report that with the North Korean situation and everything, the Japanese are once again considering their needs for their own defense.

But what does that have to do with Ogg?

...courtesy of the fish...

"...with spatula drawing formation..."

Thank Mr. Babel Fish.

You really can't argue that this ISN'T informative, though.

Since we all don't speak the native languages of English or Japanesse, here are the translated versiosn from....

English to Japanesse

and...

Japanesse to English

We can't let those scientists have the fun of putting up bilingual pages up. After all, what's science without bad translations, eh?

Since we all don't speak the native languages of English or Japanesse, here are the translated versiosn from....

English to Japanesse

and...

Japanesse to English

We can't let those scientists have the fun of putting up bilingual pages up. After all, what's science without bad translations, eh?

Troll, this is not the first time I've had to teach someone *how* to argue, but unless you are retarded or careless I think it is the first time you were taught how to argue. BTW: What part of any person's education would be most relevant here? Hrm?

All flames aside --I know: it IS fun-- though: The fact that I have to ask "What in the hell are you talking about?", whereas you did not, proves that my argument is more effective than yours. Please read carefully: I need help understanding what you mean.

Now, I *think* you are suggesting that there is a proof that my argument is false based on French history, and then you suggest I am uneducated. I would like to know which idea of mine won't work, and a reference to the history that you allude to. I would also like to know what you mean by "uneducated" and "intelligent" so that I can satisfy the (thus poorly worded) criteria of your appreciation.

BTW: I have a BS in Political Theory and Comparative Politics, minored in Philosophy, so while I may not be able to meet *YOUR* expectations, you are a fool for expecting MORE education in these matters from people you do not know. You are the father of your own discontent! I can help you achieve more realistic expectations though, so revenons a nos moutons! (That's a french expression which means "let's get back to the business at hand." You can get the rest from Babelfish)

Careful not to miss the human side of this issue. I don't know what the people rotting away in prison said on the Internet, but Amnesty doesn't think they deserve to be locked up.
Note: the above link is not English. Non-Francophones may wish to give machine translation a shot.

translated with babelfish
Note that babelfish does not seem to like big5 so I used the GB version. It's not gibberish, but it's not really english either. You can get the general idea though. I like the references to "primitive code". Perhaps they know more than they are saying? ;-)

AFAIK, the translator used by Sherlok on OS X is the same that empowers Babelfish, if it isn't babelfish itself.

You'll have to click the Translate button, but hey, deal with it.

Try Babelfish for translation so you can read about PDAs. I don't use PDAs with built in keyboards, but someone else might find the article interesting.

http://www.altavista.com/web/text

Beat that Google (-:

The site ist here (german only).

Babelfish translation of the link above. There are some cool equipment a couple of clicks in.

Looks like Altavista have redesigned their home page, but their search is still the same old rubbish.

Looks like Altavista has a problem understanding the chunked HTTP transfer-encoding method. I went to look at my own results, and scattered throughout the description of my page are 3-digit hexadecimal numbers.

In a page downloaded via "chunked" transfer-encoding, the response body is broken down into small chunks, each chunk being prefixed by their length, represented as a three-digit hexadecimal number. The three chunk-lengths AV is showing as text are c45, 138, and fe4. Telnetting to my site by hand confirmed that these are the first three chunk sizes Apache is using.

If you try:
http://us.altavista.com or
http://uk.altavista.com

then you'll be able to access the English versions. I believe you can also set cookies.

Tim

If you try:
http://us.altavista.com or
http://uk.altavista.com

then you'll be able to access the English versions. I believe you can also set cookies.

Tim

And the opening page

http://it.altavista.com/
Told me that I could go to a site that I could access using a stinky dialer, a website for clueless dotcomers who still not know what happened to "new economy", another site, another and another one sponsored by the same shitty criminal company called CEPU (which supposedly tries to help you with preparing the university exam, but in truth is only an high cost scam) and last, but not leasta dialer-porn-website...

If you think I'll be abandoning Google, you are absolutely wrong.

Compare searching for "Mahoromatic", an anime which has been around for long (it kinda sucks though, like most anime serieses). Google returns 87 results of the cute maid, while Altavista returns 0 results - they obviously need to do some serious spidering around.

Is my post interesting or what?

Quite honestly... I don't know why everyone complains about AltaVista's appearance for their web portal thing. Honestly, I never was too impressed with it myself though. So what I did was bookmark their text only search page. It uses even less bandwith than google, since there's not even a single graphic on the page... it's 100% text.

But there were several reasons I switched to google over time. I'd say that cached webpages were probably the biggest reason. It's annoying to find most webpages either 404'd or changed since they were spidered by the search engine. At least with google, (at the time) you could see what it looked like at the time it was searched. So you know that even if it wasn't what you were looking for, it would at least show you a cached version of the page that would have your search terms SOMEWHERE in it.

There were also other things too. Being able to search for images, more relavent searches, etc... things like that pulled me away from AltaVista. I visited AV once recently, and I noticed that they are trying to be more google-like. And with this... I'll be willing to try them out again, though I'd be surprised if they'd pull me away from google at all. But even when I switched to google, they've still always been my backup searcb engine, for when I want to see if they'll pull in slightly different results than google. But we'll see how that goes. I'd like to see them do better, I've always been fond of AltaVista.

Besides, you can't really put your own stuff there

Especially if you don't have much vision. The Add URL form requires the user to 1. read a bitmapped image compressed using proprietary UNISYS(tm) technology, 2. enter all the letters from that image into a text box, and THEN 3. enter URLs. This supposedly keeps out bots that spam the form, but it also keeps out blind users and other users behind textual user agents such as w3m or Links because they cannot complete step 1.

Here bookmark this one in your favorites!

http://www.altavista.com/web/text

Beat that Google (-:

Babel fish translation

Did he say yes? w00t! here they come now!

Wir sind deutsche Polizei. Widerstehen Sie uns nicht. Bleiben Sie auf Fußboden. Sie haben kein Recht, leise zu bleiben. Gespräch oder Treffen helga in der Küche.

use babelfish ;-)

Clerck:Alle Ihre Mittel sind gehören uns. Sie Cracker sind auf Ihrer Weise zur Zerstörung. ha ha ha.

Me:Uhm whatever you said sounds good for mee *(% Ooomph*&^

Angry men around me:Wir sind deutsche Polizei. Widerstehen Sie uns nicht. Bleiben Sie auf Fußboden. Sie haben kein Recht, leise zu bleiben. Gespräch oder Treffen helga in der Küche.

use babelfish ;-)

The main issue I found is running XP with all its spurious services that seemingly screw up the code-morphing cache. Fortunately, XP can easily be desugar'ed (which you presumably want to do anyway) and the result, as I said, is just plain awesome.

Cheers ...

...

In a more ideal future, all presentation issues will be decided on the client side. You send me the data, and I've configured my software to present it the way I prefer. It won't happen for a while yet, but I can dream. And the continued use of PDF blocks this dream.

I think you have a good point, but there are other reasons to use fonts and colors besides besides deception - there is the simple matter of self-expression. Your argument taken to its logical conclusion will apply equally to HTML as well - but there are legions of people who hand-craft web pages with a carefully chosen look and feel. The same thing is true with companies, for example Google's beautifully spare page compared to some others. This subconscious communication can be very powerful. I sympathize about the PowerPoint engineers, but its still really the fault of the people who are listening and simply are unwilling to seriously analyze words despite a glitzy window dressing. Despite the fact it has the most attractive front page, I would not use Google if I didn't think it was the best search engine.

Get a rough translation of the actual decree from AltaVista's Babelfish

If your french isn't that bad, try using babelfish to translate the link to french ( or see if babelfish will then translate it's french translation back to english!) Right click on the link in slashdot and copy the link address then paste that in the bablefish 'translate this URL' box.

"Should you or your co-workers be captured or killed, we will deny all knowledge of you or this communication. Good luck, Jim."

Here's the Yahoo article after the Fish did it's work and I use my limited German skills to clean it up:

Wednesday 23 October 2002, 18:59 o'clock

The USA on the Index For Press Freedom ranks only at 17th place(AFP). The United States stand at 17th place on a world-wide index by the journalist organization "Reporter Without Borders" for the attention of the press freedom only. "Serious restrictions of the press" were registered however on each continent, communicated the protection of interests on Wednesday in Berlin. Under the 20 countries that have the "worst offences" also include the European countries Russia and White Russia are beside African, Asiatic and Latin American states. As a worst European country candidate on the list is Italy and landed at the rank of 40. Germany fares with severe rank quite well. [European Union Beitrittsaspirant] Turkey occupies according to the data in the 99th Place.

TRANSLATOR

Click here to translate it.

Here is the page translated to english.

>Excluding all other search engines would clearly be abuse of monopoly power.

Google isn't a monopoly.

The " bio U " and it was coAs for " bio U ", body size of approximately width 184.5× height 30.6 *1 x depth 139mm. Even in a state where the battery of attachment is installed approximately 820g. In the Windows XP Home Edition on-board type worldwide smallest * the *2 which actualizes most light weight . The compact, the stamina drive *3 of maximum approximately 4 hours is possible with the battery of attachment.

*1 As for battery applied part 46.1mm.
*2 As of April 1st of 2002, the SONY investigation.
*3 Battery drive time differs depending upon usage condition and the like.

While it had with the both hands you adopt the Mobile grip * style which can be operated lightly. You adhered to the arrangement of the button which it is easy to operate. In order to be able to operate the pointer smoothly, it turns, the ??????? which * you push and with the wide stick which attaches the dent, being can do operation with respect to the right arrangement. It arranges the left button and the right button which can do click operation with respect to the left. In addition, the software " ThumbPhrase which has input estimate conversion function (the sum phrase) " it can start it equips " the ThumbPhrase " button to direct. With " the ThumbPhrase " corresponding key and operation of the ???????, like the portable telephone speedy letter input is possible.

" ThumbPhrase " corresponding key

Stand-by button
It equips the stand-by button which with one push becomes stand-by mode. If you use briskly, it can hold down the consumption of the battery. In addition, starting immediately from stand-by mode, it can use.

In perusal of home page and when et cetera checking the mail, with ZOOM IN button picture enlargement * . You saw to be, information and small letter is indicated easyly to see. It can reset to also original size with the one button.

* Resolution of liquid crystal display is set to the 1024×768 dot usually. When it expands indicates, resolution becomes the 800×600 dot. It indicates in all the picture territories with smoothing processing.

" The AirH (AH-G10) " " of the DDI pocket it corresponds. Installing in the PC card slot of the substance, if you use, high-speed data communication of the 128kbps is possible. Because it corresponds to packet transmission, it is connected to the broadband pleasure easily without designating connection and cutting as the air.

* Regarding " the AirH the inquiry
* Proposal * area of utilization / tip of inquiry of service 0077-775 (free call) Acceptance time: Weekday / 9:00 - 18:00 earth / 9:00 - 17:00

* Regarding data communication the tip of the inquiry 0077-7-157 (free call) Acceptance time: Weekday / 9:00 - 17:30 earth * day * holiday / 9:00 - 17:00 *
Home page: Http: //www.ddipocket.co.jp/

It conforms to the standard IEEE802.11b system of the wireless LAN, the 2.4gHz wireless LAN PC card " of the Wi-Fi " certification being completed (the PCWA-C150S and selling separately) corresponds. Being the cable unnecessary, it actualizes the high-speed communication of the largest 11mbps, of the ADSL and the cable television circuit et cetera connection is possible to broadband. Installing the wireless LAN PC card, ahead going out if, wireless LAN access point such as coffee and hotel and station (the IEEE802.11b) the facility which is installed (the hot spot) with, it can enjoy the perusal of mail transmission and the home page. In addition, if the wireless LAN access point of selling separately (PCWA-A200) it installs in the home, from the place where we like in the house in Internet connected possibility. Other things bio * with using the network inside home, also it can exchange the data and it can share the printer.

* Wireless LAN functional on-board biology or the biology which installs the wireless LAN PC card. nnected with the ic.link or the ethernet, bio * with with, the SONY original software " FlyingPointer which the file can be transmitted easily (the flying pointer)" attachment. When " the FlyingPointer " is started, way the file which we would like to send the picture is penetrated, the drug. The feather it grew, when the pointer " of the FlyingPointer ", appears in the desktop of the partner side, drop does the file is copied automatically. For example, from the main machine, copying the file to the " bio U ", when liking to bring up easily and the like, it is convenient.

* To from the CD-ROM which belongs the " bio U ", it is necessary to install " the FlyingPointer ". The Windows XP Professional, the Windows XP Home Edition, it corresponds to the type which loads the Windows 2000 Professional, but as for use please go on customer himself responsibility.

" The Adobe Acrobat eBook Reader (??? acrobatic * I - the book leader)", quality of the book and the high accuracy which reproduces design faithfully the software which can read the electronic book. In little time ahead going out, cartoon and the novel and the picture book et cetera can be enjoyed with the bio U. In addition, the page the ? also it is possible with the ??????? to come. " The bio U " original electronic book trial contents 8 types it has belonged.

* It is possible to purchase the electronic book of eBook Reader correspondence with the book store sight on Internet.

You may find it more enlightening and certainly more amusing to read machine-translated Japanese, via Babelfish .

For about 3 or 4 months around when Velious came out, I had a group of five friends who I would go to the fungi camp in lower guk (at 4am, it was almost always uncamped) once or twice a week. We stayed 'til we all had a fungi tunic (they are lore) or school started. So we each made ~60k-90k plat a week, from 3-4 hours of playing, which is alot easier than this 60,000pp in a week with constant playing.

Could somebody please translate the text above into some commonly spoken language. I have tried babelfish but it did not work. The 'Fungi Tunic' part is especially confusing - and frankly the explanation that they are 'lore' did not help me much.

Tor

Easy. Just run the code through this.

Thank the fish!

As far as I'm concerned, the Akira soundtrack is among the finest scores ever created for a film. It's quite perfect as the background discourse for the overall feel of the production.

More info can be found here:

http://www.ortv.ru/ and here http://www.ortv.ru/

Remember to use Babelfish or some other translator if you can't read Russian.

I have a suspicion that news.au.com is getting one slipped to them. The closest Google result I could get with "NTT NoCoMo skin" is this article about a cell phone that conducts sound through bone and cartilage, enabling you to listen to the call by sticking your finger in your ear.

Maybe you could try actually reading the article? It clearly states the source of the news, the Nihon Keizai Shimbun, and in fact the article is right at the top of the "companies" section (link, or Fish translation).

chads grávidos

I'd rather have the extra screen resolution, but the photos here suggest that the screen-half swivels around, allowing the device to be used in tablet mode (much like the Sony NR and upcoming NX series). Look closely at 06.jpg and you can see the pivot point and that the screen-half is beveled on both sides. So hardware buttons next to the screen would be quite useful...

BTW, these other images also indicate it can swivel: 01.jpg , 02.jpg , 05.jpg.

Even better is THIS.