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Alice's Restaurant
http://www.arlo.net/resources/lyrics/alices.shtml

I can see why NASA didn't pay, avoiding to create a precedent for possibly higher claims, but it looks really badly if a reputable organization has to rely on donations to pay its litter bills...

Yes indeed, littering can be a problem.

...boxes, arrows and code words.

For some reason, this reminds me of:

We walked in, sat down, Obie came in with the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one, sat down. Man came in said, "All rise." We all stood up, and Obie stood up with the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures, and the judge walked in sat down with a seeing eye dog, and he sat down, we sat down. Obie looked at the seeing eye dog, and then at the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one, and looked at the seeing eye dog. And then at twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one and began to cry, 'cause Obie came to the realization that it was a typical case of American blind justice, and there wasn't nothing he could do about it, and the judge wasn't going to look at the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used as evidence against us. And we was fined $50 and had to pick up the garbage in the snow, but thats not what I came to tell you about.

From Alice' Restaurant by Arlo Guthrie.

They claim that spoiling a ballot is illegal, but the Constitution makes such actions protected speech.

I made it VERY clear I had spoiled my ballot in the last election. I voted for everyone, and then said, VERY loudly, that this election was a waste of time, and that I spoiled my ballot by voting for everyone. They weren't too happy, but what are they going to do, make a federal case out of it? That could start a dangerous trend.

Voting for everyone, and then saying you voted for everyone, is non-partisan (nice loophole against displays of partisanship at the voting center, thank you very much). And it doesn't meet the standard of "disrupting", whereas if the people running the show make an issue of it, they are actually causing the disruption.

The haters are out this morning:

"... Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
KILL, KILL." And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL,""

http://www.arlo.net/resources/lyrics/alices.shtml :-)

RISC blows CISC away: [skip or walk]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduced_instruction_set_computing#RISC_design_philosophy

- so much so, that they still bolt it on CISC [with some success]

[Don't bother with the subheading "Diminishing benefits", it's BS, look at IBM's POWER]

RISC vs. CISC:

http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~eroberts/courses/soco/projects/2000-01/risc/risccisc/

Our G5 x2 2.5 is soon to be a companion to our Xserve x2 1.33 [redundant DNS].
Just add:

Swift Data 200:

http://www.transintl.com/store/category.cfm?Category=2490

Inside your Power Mac G5:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1305

"catastrophic coolant leak":

http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/G5_CoolantLeak_Repair/G5_CoolantLeak_Repair_p1.html

If I ask a "Yes" or "No" questions, give me a "Yes" or "No" up front before launching into the diatribe with the massacre and the four party harmony. Sometimes, you don't need the rest.

Also, as a boss, I want you to really tell me "I don't know" if you really don't know. I hate, hate, hate people who aren't willing to man up when they don't know the answer to a question. Tell me, "I don't know but I'll find out." or "I don't know and I could use help to find the answer." Don't tell me you have it under control when you really don't. That just makes everybody look bad.

I said, "Littering." And they all moved away from me on the bench
there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I
said, "And creating a nuisance." And they all came back, shook my hand,
and we had a great time on the bench

"You can get anything you want,
at Alice's Restaurant
Excepting Alice" :)

1. You do not need Itunes.
2. You do not need ' Music Stores ' per se.

and you can get rid of:

1. DRM
2. RIAA
3. MPAA
4. Watermarks

Simply by saying; "We made some music, would you like some? take it, it's free" Eben Moglen

Oh Brother, "When will they ever learn? When will they ever learn?" (Song)

Regards Slasdotgirl

I had no budget. I used extra disk space left over and a 2400 baud modem. Some extra programs to do newsreading on VMS, and sendmail script hacking, etc. I restricted the feed to only technical newsgroups, and may a few local forsale groups. No alt or soc newsgroups, the bandwidth and disk space demands for those were too much. Several researchers in the labs started reading USENET this way.

Great story... and judging from the age of this filk, you weren't the only one who ran an underground company news server that had been cobbled together out of spare parts.

Sing it with me next time it comes 'round on the guitar.

You can read anything you want on Alice's NNTP Server

Can we sing about it?

You can get anything you want at Alice's NNTP Server (includin' .MP3s of Alice's Restaurant!)
Telnet over, it's a simple hack.
Port one-nineteen is where it's at.
and you can get anything you want on Alice's NNTP.

...can you imagine fifty people a day,I said fifty people a day walking in to Circuit City, buying something, and refusing to show ID? My friends, they may think it's a movement.

Consider the police response in Alice's Restaurant...

http://www.arlo.net/resources/lyrics/alices.shtml

"And I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is, Group W's
where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after
committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly
looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father
rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And
they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the
bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest
father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly
'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me
and said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay
$50 and pick up the garbage." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"
And I said, "Littering." And they all moved away from me on the bench
there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I
said, "And creating a nuisance." And they all came back, shook my hand,
and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing,
father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the
bench. "

Updated version, appropriate to the discussion:

http://www.arlo.net/resources/lyrics/alices-nntp.s html

Kid, have you rehabilitated yourself?

And friends, somewhere in Washington enshrined in some little folder, is a
study in black and white of my fingerprints. And the only reason I'm
singing you this song now is cause you may know somebody in a similar
situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if your in a
situation like that there's only one thing you can do and that's walk into
the shrink wherever you are ,just walk in say "Shrink, You can get
anything you want, at Alice's restaurant.". And walk out. You know, if
one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and
they won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,
they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them.
And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in
singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an
organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and
walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.

And that's what it is , the Alice's Restaurant Anti-Massacre Movement, and
all you got to do to join is sing it the next time it come's around on the
guitar.

You've been listening to "Alice's Restaurant" agaon, haven't you?

honestly i saw a chance to use the words from my favorite song http://www.arlo.net/lyrics/pause-claus.shtml

Copyright Infringement

And they all moved away from me on the bench

Back in 1966, I and a group of friends were arrested for littering in Stockbridge, MA. The prosecution showed up with 27 eight-by-ten color glossy pictures of the "scene of crime," with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one to be used as evidence against us.

Fortunately for us, the Judge was blind and couldn't look at the 27 eight-by-ten glossy picture with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one.

So we got charged $50 and had to clean up the garbage in the snow.

Oh wait! That was Arlo Guthrie. My mistake...

Now let me tell you about the draft...

You ought to at least credit Arlo Guthrie for
writing Alice's Restaurant http://www.arlo.net/lyrics/alices.shtml

One editor (male) at the company would stop at least once each day, stomp around his desk, and mutter "KILL! KILL! KILL!"

Maybe he's just singing Alice's Restaurant....

why does a song talking about littering and jail come to mind....

And I started jumpin up and down yelling, "KILL, KILL," and
he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
yelling, "KILL, KILL." And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me,
sent me down the hall, said, "You're our boy."

From Alice's Restaurant

Bull****.

Go to Arlo's website and scroll down to his entry of August 8.

Ansis5

This land is your land, this land is my land
From the redwood forest to the New York island.
From the snow-capped mountains to the Gulf Stream waters
This land is made for you and me.

As I go walkin' my ribbon of highway
I see all around me my blue blue skyway
Everywhere around me the wind keeps a-whistlin'
This land is made for you and me.

I'm a-chasin' my shadow out across this roadmap
To my wheat fields waving, to my cornfield dancing
As I go walkin' this wind keeps talkin'
This land is made for you and me.

I can see your mailbox, I can see your doorstep
I can feel my wind rock your tip-top treetop
All around your house there my sunbeam whispers
This land is made for you and me.

"Was a big high wall there that tried to stop me
A sign was painted, said 'Private property.'
But on the other side it didn't say nothing.
This land was made for you and me."

• At an NPR story: here and here
• Here for more info.
• Here for info from the Woodiy Guthrie foundation.
• Here for the Lyrics from Arlo Guthrie, Woody's Son.
• 
  
  IMHO whoever claims to "own" this is as sick as the people who claim to "own" the image of Martin Luther King as property. See the commentrary at the internet archive: here.

According to the official Arlo Guthrie website arlo.net, the lyric you cite was more like:

As I was walkin' - I saw a sign there
And that sign said - no tress passin'
But on the other side .... it didn't say nothin!
Now that side was made for you and me!

Immediately following that verse, they have

In the squares of the city - In the shadow of the steeple
Near the relief office - I see my people
And some are grumblin' and some are wonderin'
If this land's still made for you and me.

Woody Guthrie was a folk singer, a man for his time. Arlo picked up the call to become a folk singer for his time

Now... 3 generations later, Woody is again a man for our time.

All Americans .... I mean ALL Americans have sung at least the first two verses of that song. It is intended to be for the people. It was written about them and for them.
If anyone "owns" that song, it is the American people. We all own it since it is one of our folk songs which has become part of the fabric of our society and culture.

They sang it at the Democratic Convention for God's sake. Did the DNC pay to have that children's choir sing it?

Woody doesn't care... I doubt Arlo cares...
Copyright laws are unreasonable and out of control. Besides, he signed 'em away over 60 years ago... They need to wake up and get over themselves.

Interesting, but I can't help but think, that is exactly what government wants: more demand for their services. This is a classic example of government creating problems (unfair patent law), which they will "solve" with even MORE government.

Wow. Umm. Okay.

So, you clearly are of Reagan's anti-government camp, and that's fine. But I hope you'll allow me to respond with a quote from an earlier (indeed, the first) Republican president, and give it due consideration:

"[...] It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

(I trust you will recognize this as Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.)

I assert that it is not government that is the problem. Government that is not accountable to the people is the problem.

This is our government. We the people constitute it, and we the people are responsible for it. Don't dismiss government, but take it back.

This idea once was written this way:

"[...] We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it [...]"

Now, personally, I'm a fan of the "alter" approach, rather than the "abolish" approach. My faith in the goodness of mankind is not so great that I would like to see anarchy.

Instead, I call on everyone reading this to work to alter our government to once again place the people first. I'm a libertarian leftist, so I think this means that people come before profit, that immortal corporations are not due the same rights under the law that natural persons enjoy, that government shall pass no law reducing the freedom of the people where no harm is done, that the Bill of Rights is not to be trifled with.

Verbal Kint once said, "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist." I have a corallary: "The greatest trick the forces of oppression ever pulled was convincing Americans that their government doesn't matter."

This land is your land.

Don't forget.

Due to security concerns, we are not supposed to leave our laptops in the office unless they are locked up somehow.

We used to be able to schedule the scan for when it was convenient. Because of all the viruses going around, and too many users blindly clicking away... It is forced on everyone at the same time, Wednesday beginning at noon, your local time. In theory, it should only run for 1 hour while you are at lunch. In reality, it takes 3 hours on my machine. Any attempts to alter the schedule, result in it being reset the next time you log into the network.

At our company... Big Brother is not only watching, he's making sure you don't hurt yourself.
The cubicle version of taking away your belt because "Kid, we don't want any hangings." Alice's Restaurant [with apologies to Arlo]

Heck, if you are using a credit card, buy 10 and return 9. If you do it same day, your account won't even get dinged noticably!

And if we all do it, together, we could create a moevement... the "Anti-DRM Movement". We could scare executives. We could get mid-level beaurocrats and marketers fired. We could...

Boy, this reminds me of an old Arlo Guthrie song where he sings:

just walk in say "Shrink, You can get
anything you want, at Alice's restaurant.". And walk out. You know, if
one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and
they won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,
they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them.
And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in
singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an
organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and
walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.

And that's what it is , the Alice's Restaurant Anti-Massacre Movement, and
all you got to do to join is sing it the next time it come's around on the
guitar.

Oh, you can get anything you want at Apple's Restaraunt
You can get anything you want at Apple's Restaraunt
Just log right in, it's just to the left
Just a half a inch from the RDF
You can get anything you want at Apple's Restaraunt

Maybe he'll get to write a folk song about it.

Come on... give some credit where it's due:

Alice's Restaurant

For my edification, who was the Guthrie after which the cards were named? When I first saw the article I thought "Why the hell would Woody be involved in something like that?"

Actually, I think it was Arlo. After he changed his name to Chrysler, they needed a way to keep track of him. They've been doing the same for everyone else since.

For my edification, who was the Guthrie after which the cards were named? When I first saw the article I thought "Why the hell would Woody be involved in something like that?"

Actually, I think it was Arlo. After he changed his name to Chrysler, they needed a way to keep track of him. They've been doing the same for everyone else since.

In a related vein, Tom Paxton wrote a funny song:

http://www.arlo.net/lyrics/chrysler.shtml

And I, I walked over to the, to the bench there, and there is, Group W's where they put you if you may not be moral enough to join the army after committing your special crime, and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly looking people on the bench there. Mother rapers. Father stabbers. Father rapers! Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me!

And they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly 'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me and said, "Kid, whad'ya get?" I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay $250,000.00 and turn in my harddrive." He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?" And I said, "mp3 filesharing." And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I said, "And creating a nuisance." And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing, father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the bench. And everything was fine, we was smoking cigarettes and all kinds of things, until the Sargeant came over, had some paper in his hand, held it up and said...

"Kids, this-piece-of-paper's-got-47-words-37-sentences-58 -words-we-wanna- know-details-of-the-crime-time-of-the-crime-and-an y-other-kind-of-thing- you-gotta-say-pertaining-to-and-about-the-crime-I- want-to-know-arresting- officer's-name-and-any-other-kind-of-thing-you-got ta-say", and talked for forty-five minutes and nobody understood a word that he said, but we had fun filling out the forms and playing with the pencils on the bench there, and I filled out the massacre with the four part harmony, and wrote it down there, just like it was, and everything was fine and I put down the pencil, and I turned over the piece of paper, and there, there on the other side, in the middle of the other side, away from everything else on the other side, in parentheses, capital letters, quotated, read the following words:

("KID, HAVE YOU REHABILITATED YOURSELF?")

I went over to the sargent, said, "Sargeant, you got a lot a damn gall to ask me if I've rehabilitated myself, I mean, I mean, I mean that just, I'm sittin' here on the bench, I mean I'm sittin here on the Group W bench 'cause you want to know if I'm moral enough join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages after bein' a litterbug." He looked at me and said, "Kid, we don't like your kind, and we're gonna send you fingerprints off to Washington."

And friends, somewhere in Washington enshrined in some little folder, is a study in black and white of my fingerprints. And the only reason I'm singing you this song now is cause you may know somebody in a similar situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if your in a situation like that there's only one thing you can do and that's walk into the shrink wherever you are ,just walk in say "Shrink, You can get anything you want, at Alice's restaurant.". And walk out. You know, if one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and they won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony, they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them. And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.

And that's what it is , the Alice's Restaurant Anti-Massacre Movement, and all you got to do to join is sing it the next time it come's around on the guitar.

With feeling. So we'll wait for it to come around on the guitar, here and sing it when it does. Here it comes.

You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant Walk right in it's around the back Just a half a mile from the railroad track You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant

That was horrible. If you want to end war and stuff you got to sing loud. I've been singing this song now for twenty five minutes. I could sing it for another twenty five minutes. I'm not proud... or tired.

So we'll wait till it comes around again, and this time with four part harmony and feeling. We're just waitin' for it to come around is what we're doing.

All right now.

You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant

Excepting Alice

"...And creating a nuisance."

And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing, father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the bench.

http://www.arlo.net/lyrics/alices.shtml

My girlfriend and I went to Virginia Beach on the weekend of July 13th to see Dave Matthews Band, the very weekend that the cameras were scheduled to be turned on. If I had known about the cameras prior to making hotel reservations and acquiring tickets, I probably would have skipped the trip. But having made a financial committment to going, I wasn't about to back out. But I did let them know that I wasn't happy.

First, I called their tourism bureau (1-800-VA BEACH) in an attempt to determine where the cameras would be, such that I could avoid that area. The woman had no idea, and asked why I wanted to know. I explained -- without getting into lots of details about privacy -- that I was not comfortable having the cameras watching me, despite the fact that I was not, to my knowledge, wanted by any police department. And, as a matter of fact, I was on the verge of cancelling my trip, I told her. The woman was troubled, and directed me to call the police department.

That went about as well as you could imagine. I talked to a cop there that figured that anybody that didn't want to be on their cameras was obviously a law-breaker. But, hey, he told me the streets that the cameras were on, and I told him that I would certainly not be patronizing businesses along that stretch.

Did I make a difference? I have no idea. If one person calls, they'll think he's crazy. And if two, two people call...they'll think they're queer. But, friends, can you imagine three -- three people -- walking in, sitting down, and humming a bar of Alice's Restaurant? Friends, we'd have a movement -- the Virginia Beach Massacree. [1]

-Waldo Jaquith

[1] "Alice's Restaurant," Arlo Guthrie

...that this 18 1/2 minute gap is exactly enough time for Nixon, et al. to listen to Alice's Restaurant.

7 years in prison does seem a bit harsh. On the other hand
"I had to pay $50 and pick up the garbage."
sounds a bit light.

Wouldn't it be neat if we e-mailed the MPAA, their attorneys, and our representatives in The Senate and The House with the following?:


To Whom It May Concern,

I am in posession of the css-auth code, the supposedly-illegal DVD decrypting programming code. I hereby turn myself in.

Respectfully,
Waldo L. Jaquith


"You know, if one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and they won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony, they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them. And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in singin' a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.

And that's what it is, the Alice's Restaurant Anti-Massacre Movement, and all you got to do to join is sing it the next time it come's around on the guitar." - Arlo Guthrie