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Thanks for the funny mod, but It really does exist

-dk

:-) Yeah, it is funny. But look at the first comments from these links:

Link
Link
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It's cut and paste.

Hmm.. funny... Microsoft plans to phase out

I'm not saying that you're wrong, but can you give any sources to back your statements up? Apple does not say that its iTMS tracks are taken from the masters, and considering the fact that Jobs said he went to some length to get the rights to sell "untethered" music online, it seems unlikely that the record labels would give in even more by letting Apple use the masters.

I agree with you too on each count. However, you dont need to do without REAL content.

Check out Real Alternative , which plays all Real media files, without the crud. While you are on that website, also check out QuickTime Alternative

Cheers,

I agree with you too on each count. However, you dont need to do without REAL content.

Check out Real Alternative , which plays all Real media files, without the crud. While you are on that website, also check out QuickTime Alternative

Cheers,

Also, don't forget QuickTime Alternative, assuming you're unfortunate enough to have to play QuickTime files.

There is Real Alternative. I'm not sure how legal it is, but it plays the files and I don't have to install the RealOne crap. Until I found it I simply didn't use any sites that relied upon realplayer files. I was so happy when Amazon.com added WMP samples.

I'm not sure if this is from their DRM stuff of whatever but if i try and convert an MP3 to AAC format it is only playable in iTMS and Quicktime. That flat out sucks. The new Winamp 5 can rip cd's now to AAC by default and they play on just about everything that supports it. So why don't apple's m4a's play nice with other software?

Don't know if its been mentioned or not, but those million people also installed the latest version of QuickTime along with iTunes (assuming they installed it). I gotta wonder if that's the biggest jump Apple's ever had in QuickTime penetration in the Windows market.

No more crummy Apple Quicktime player.

Try QuickTime Alternative. It is "customized" release of QuickTime Player. Very nice and fast (without GUI bulk). It also includes Media Player Classic - free player similar to Windows Media Player 6.4, but original one and sooooo fast - it's unbelievable. P.S. These guys also have RealPlayer Alternative. It even includes DirectShow filter, so you'll be able to play RealMedia shit using for example Microsoft's Media Player.

Try Winamp 5 Beta 1

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1066 336873

Ripped from here and here and some mandrake forums. Earliest post appears in February of this year, but it may be earlier.

-Adam

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1032 985422

linky

The best is QuickTime Alternative, made by the Kazaa Lite guys. Get it here.

"Sorry folks, Quicktime 6 only."

Windows users can download the extra cool Media Player Classic. This slim, effective, GPLed all-in-one player has extensions for playing Quicktime, Real, and many other formats. No need to install bloated proprietary players for each and every format out there.

Outlook Express: Death Is Exaggerated (PCWorld.com)
Outcry forces reprieve for Outlook Express (ZDNet UK)

OSNews Discussion

OE might be in the IE boat tho, meaning no release until the next release of Windows, as suggested on Beta News. So there will be an opportunity, but not a gaping hole as the next release of Windows will forcefully spread the next version of OE again.

It is called Media Player Classic. It's hosted on sourceforge and is open source! It also conviently doesn't include Quicktime or Real codec's but a quick search on google for Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative gives you those codecs! It can play everything provided you have the proper codec installed including DVDs so everyone on windows enjoy. Appropriate links follow below:

Media Player Classic

Real Alternative

Quicktime Alternative

It is called Media Player Classic. It's hosted on sourceforge and is open source! It also conviently doesn't include Quicktime or Real codec's but a quick search on google for Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative gives you those codecs! It can play everything provided you have the proper codec installed including DVDs so everyone on windows enjoy. Appropriate links follow below:

Media Player Classic

Real Alternative

Quicktime Alternative

"there are lots of "k3wl, I'm so 1337 d00d, because I run Linux and not M$ Winblows" amateurs out there."

Indeed.

If anyone wants a good example, check out some of the comments over at my old haunt (still a haunt for amusement in a way): betanews.com

The Contact Form

This story which says "It is our expectation that
those who use our service with unlicensed or unauthorized third-
party clients will likely not be able to log on after October 15,"
Microsoft spokesperson Sean Sundwall told BetaNews.
"We would encourage those third parties to contact us to work out
agreements by which they can continue to have their customers access our network."

A Techweb stating: Those who don't update won't be able to access
the service, nor will unauthorized or unlicensed third-party clients be allowed to connect
to MSN's IM network, the company said.

Apologies:

this article

http://www.betanews.com/article.php3?sid=106128903 2

Well, perhaps as part of PC Satisfaction, MS would actually have to test their patches sufficiently enough to make sure they work the first time, or at least make sure that your system can be rolled back if problems still pop up.

Apparently Outlook Express development hasn't really ended. Check out this BetaNews article: MS Backtracks on Demise of Outlook Express.

Perhaps one step against this trend would be to encrypt the P2P connection between users, with some kind of public key encryption?

e3609e352afba37683c47ce60f9086bb for the waste-setup.exe

554cfa7350333aa4e6eb3b6e24201d80 for the waste-source.zip
5645d0378b5bca6d2cf337686dca9a4d for the waste-source.tar.gz
115d1a2554db4490bdf97b9862df5 a24 for the waste.zip

The Technical Overview for the W.A.S.T.E. package has been coverted into HTML, courtesy of Mr. Lucas Gonze , and it is available at http://gonze.com/waste/WASTE_Design.html

A sourceforge project site has also been set up for the W.A.S.T.E. package. The project site is at http://sourceforge.net/projects/waste/ . It may be empty for the moment, but something will be cooked up very soon.

Below is just a partial list of mirrors for the W.A.S.T.E. package that are currently in operation:

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here.

I just downloaded it so it's there. 170K - not very big stuff...

This is WASTE 1.0 Beta, BTW.

Take the stupid space Slashdot put in the file id out...

You see them all the time over on BetaNews, people complaining because beta/alpha software is buggy. Weird world.

"IMO, Microsoft would benefit by issuing public release candidates for new OS versions and patches."

Umm... they do.

For new OS versions it's called the Customer Preview Program. They've been doing this since at least Win95. In addition there are thousands involved even earlier in the process with the beta.

For servicepacks, the distribution is a bit more limited and they only go out to beta members as well as partners and such. Windows 2000 SP4 Beta Invites Sent

Hotfixes are more difficult, because they suffer from rapid release. They're rolled up into service packs, which then go through the public testing process.

This is not a troll post!

2003 is the year of Mozilla's dead.... at least of Mozilla's current form.
The reason? AOL Communicator! I downloaded a beta version from www.datakill.com and I think, it has a bright future.
The reasons:

1. It seems that AOL is finally going to push Gecko to the masses (It's branded as AOL product, not Netscape)
2. AOL Communicator is split up in single applications (ac_mail.exe, ac_im.exe,...) - no ''all in one'' like Mozilla or Netscape.
3. (And that's my peronal favourite, 'cause that's what I prayed for since ages) AOL Communictor is written using wxWindows!
   Yes it's true. Finally they got rid of the sluggish XUL interface and still being multi-plattform.
   Phoenix (or whatever the future name will be) has helped, but Phoenix' interface is still somewhat slow compared to native Windows apps. Phoenix' GUI toolkit is also not fully aware of Visual Styles (skins for WinXP) - the menus look ''old school'', while the other apps have flat/skinned menus.
   AOL Communicator (thanks to wxWindows) uses native widgets everywhere.
   Quote from the included copyright-notice.txt:

   AOL Communicator uses the following libraries and modules:
   
   wxWindows libraries Copyright (c) 1998 Julian Smart, Robert
   Roebling. The wxWindows source code, available under the
   wxWindows Library License, Version 3, can be found at
   http://www.wxwindows.org.

While the beta version does only consist of an eMail app and the Instant Messenger (compatible with AIM and ICQ), AOL is also developing a browser component.
If you have a look into the file ''AOL Communicator\locale\cat\ac_help.mo'', you can find the following strings (BTW, ''Photon'' is the codename for the Communicator):

About Photon Browser

Photon Browser is not currently your default browser.
Would you like to make it your default browser?

Oh yes, I can't wait for the final release. I hope there will be an open source version of it (without the AOL specific stuff like AOL Mail or the Instant Messenger - called Mozilla 2.0 or something like that), to allow porting it to other platforms.

Oh, BTW... I did an experiment and it worked: You can move the mail folder from Mozilla's profile directory to AOL Communicator's profile directory. All your mails stay intact.

Honestly, I don't know why the Mozilla/Netscape developers waste their time in creating a new toolkit (the one that Phoenix uses), if they should better convince their bosses from AOL to open the source of the Communicator.

PS: Thanks for reading this post and (hopefully) not modding me down as ''Troll'' :)

Related news:

AOL Pulls Rug From Under 'Magic Carpet'

For all you guys trying to read the article and cannot, here some more infos: The actual announcement is about a month old. Here's one story on internetnews (ty to /. this) covering this; and a follow-up. An alternative story can be found at Betanews.

BTW, creating XML-documents out of M$-Word-documents is not a new idea. Check out icoya WordXML (click solutions, than icoya WordXML). It is a high performance extension for Microsoft Word in order to convert content easily into the open, format-neutral and manufacturer-independent XML format.

I was reading this 10 minutes before this sotry was posted!
It's on the BetaNews slashbox, right here. Jeez, does everyone *just* read Slashdot?

http://www.betanews.com/
http://www.gamespot.com/betacenter/

Also useful: go to Blue's News and search for "beta".

Mostly audio/video focused d/l sites:

http://www.dawnload.net/
http://www.mpegx.com/
http://www.bestdownload.com/
http://www.betanews.com/
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/

AOL 8.0 beta for windows that just came out does not use Gecko... it uses IE. BetaNews has a story about it. It's possible they could do it in the next beta, but you'd figure they'd want to get it out there as early as possible, especially now that v1.0 is official.

I don't doubt this happened at all. Sony is about as bad at support at MS is. Which is why I will *never* buy a Sony laptop, because a friend of mine did....

He bought a Sony laptop which has problems with MS XP. So I helped him flash his BIOS, still problems with XP. We even tried installing ME on it, but Sony has no drivers for his laptop with ME, and has stated they had no intentions of producing drivers for users with *older* VAIOs to upgrade to newer OSes.

Sonys support line boasted a broken link so now I understood his tremendous frustration level. So armed with a boatload of documentation on this issue, I went with him to Best Buy, and they let him exchange his VAIO for other hardware matching the price of the laptop. The magic words that resonated with Best Buys manager where: "Hey man he just wants to play games on his laptop". So I helped him pick out a HP desktop (No Compaqs or eMachines nosirreebob), and a boatload of hardware, all equalling the price of that crappy laptop.

Sony wants to lock you into proprietary firewire and audio hardware, and hang you out to dry after they get your $.

This sig is taken

And you thought microsoft was going to miss out on P2P??? Think again, they have a hand in the release of PressPlay a NEW napster-clone. Check out betanews for all the details.

Can't decide whats better...having to use .NAP or .WMP (Thats windows media player files for you linux-only people)

You are quite right, a few screens in this picture
resemble this screenshot, a file-sharing program that is popular in Sweden.

The current link seems to be down. Here's another.

Many people brag about performance and what not and everything I have read refutes this infoworld article.

What about how a user actually works with the machine.

Check out this for a look at a usability study conducted on doing common tasks with the computer. XP was tons easier to use and will save real time for users.

But what about the user experience? Is speed everything?

Here's an article... that gets at the usability of XP (in relation to Win98 not Win2K).

What do you think? How important is performance versus ease of use and the other user experience factors?

comme from betanews. In case the link does not work, try this one http://www.betanews.com/article.php3?sid=993720201
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comme from betanews. In case the link does not work, try this one http://www.betanews.com/article.php3?sid=993720201
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windows 2000 service pack 2 was released, just not yet announced officially by MS. grab it here or here.

Oh, but it is available!

See here for yourself!

I saw it on betanews 2 days ago, it's slow on a PIII-800 (in windows), so obviously there's optimization to do!
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