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So someone finally heard about the Phototron and thought: "Lines of code - whatever the fuck those are - will surely make this even better..."

Will this work? https://www.cannabisculture.co...

I think my point was; it's an amazing history book for being about stone-bronze age people in spite of embellishment. Much of what is true/ partly true/ slightly true is verifiable by other sources.
I see the whole Noah thing as someone smart enough to boat their personal livestock and the whole thing got blown out of proportion. Not much different from embellishment of modern day legends whose life was much different than advertised like Abe Lincoln. Abe was a lawyer who wrote and distributed a pamphlet denying the divinity of Christ, believed that physical differences would keep blacks from ever being equal to whites and proposed to Congress to settle the slave thing by shipping all the blacks to South America (rejected by Congress AND South American countries). But, we polish him up for the Children.

When a story doesn't jibe with reality, there are still missing elements. Here are some elements that make the WHOLE Bible, Apocrypha and Pseudepigraphica make MUCH more sense. http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/1996/05/01/Kaneh-Bosm-Cannabis-Old-Testament , but you can see it involve a shitstorm of controversy and politics.
Not much truth in history, but what you can dig out of it. I think Voltaire said "History is a pack of lies that we play on the dead". Wisdom, as far as it will go.

"If that was true, the free speech bill(C-304) [brianstorseth.ca] wouldn't be stalled in the senate."

You've missed the point COMPLETELY who has control of the senate asshole? Oh yeah conservatives. CONSERVATIVES Stalling bills means nothing when they'll just keep waiting out public scrutiny on many issues. You know nothing of how the government works obviously.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/content/2011/12/06/Draconian-Crime-Bill-Passed-Conservative-Majority-House-Commons

http://cannabisculture.com/articles/4131.html

http://weedpress.wordpress.com/science/in-the-news/australian-driving-study-says-cannabis-is-safe/

http://www.ccguide.org/driving.php

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The thing to note is that there is only one source for 'research grade' 'marijuana' in the states. They control thc levels by extracting all compounds and then adding a percentage of thc back. Note the producer has stated they have never gotten a request to produce 'marijuana' with cannabinoids or other compounds besides thc. Then again, look closely at how the orgsnization has been setup and you can see how the different layers are setup for obfuscation. Sure they've nevere received such requests because research requests of that kind have been blocked by the other organization which forwards approved research requests. They won't even look at research requests that are looking to use cannabis for medical purposes.

I don't have a medical degree and really it is unnecessary. In fact no other drug researchers i've ever met at conferences or visiting lecturers have medical degrees and that is because almost all real, controlled drug studies are not run by people with medical degrees. People with medical degrees are usually the ones that produce those sad clinical studies with horrible methodology and low subject counts.

What's funny about the comments of the producer is them stating that there's very few seeds and branches now with their new seperator, but these are pre-rolled joints! Nobody in there right mind would roll a joint like that for any purpose, and if there are seeds in yourr medical grade marijuana it's because you aren't producing it properly. Really, adding extra carbon and non-medicinal elements and then saying it's not good for your lungs?

n.b. canadas production isn't much better but at least we have sprays and pills that combine the other compounds with thc. http://cms.herbalgram.org/herbalgram/issue85/article3485.html http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/articles/2770.html

Pot smoke contains most of the same carcinogens as regular tobacco smoke.

Except that marijuana smoke does not contain any Tobacco-specific nitrosamines, and the evidence so far is that marijuana smokers are not more likely to develop cancer than non-smokers. That aside, smoking is not the only means by which marijuana is consumed, and non-smoking methods of use appear to have no permanent effects (as opposed to non-smoking methods of using tobacco, which still increase the risk of cancer).

You would be much more accurate to say that: "Marijuana is no more dangerous than alcohol or tobacco."

Actually, it is significantly less dangerous, to the point where we can only guess at what the lethal dosage is (since there are no recorded cases of someone overdosing). There is scant evidence of long term health effects following the cessation of marijuana use. THC and CBD also have neuroprotective properties, which may actually make marijuana use somewhat beneficial (more research needs to be done here).

100% safe? Nothing is 100% safe. You could have an unknown allergy to marijuana, or there may be some kind of mutation in a particular crop that causes a danger. Or your government might have laced your marijuana with poison:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/articles/1767.html

Are you lost sir?

The United States has the DEA enforcing it's domestic drug policy throughout the world.

Here in Canada:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/articles/3261.html

Abroad, Cocaine is tolerated and seen as a great resource in South America yet America is killing civilians to thwart a domestic problem?????? A problem that stems from lack of Education, Health care and Poverty

Missionary plane shot down in Peru: collateral damage in US "drug war
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/apr2001/peru-a24.shtml
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/peru_coverup.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/04/video-of-missionaries-bei_n_449074.html

DEA agents shoot innocent 14-year-old girl in the head, but deny any wrongdoing.
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2998.html

http://www.isil.org/resources/lit/license-to-kill.html

DEA GO AWAY!!!
http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-victim/

Lets not forget Marc Emery a Canadian politician extradited because of his influence on the pro marijuana movement. He was extradited for selling seeds (which is legal in Canada) via mail to the U.S. unprecedented enforcement of American pollution on Canadian Sovereignty.

Are you lost sir?

The United States has the DEA enforcing it's domestic drug policy throughout the world.

Here in Canada:
http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/articles/3261.html

Abroad, Cocaine is tolerated and seen as a great resource in South America yet America is killing civilians to thwart a domestic problem?????? A problem that stems from lack of Education, Health care and Poverty

Missionary plane shot down in Peru: collateral damage in US "drug war
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/apr2001/peru-a24.shtml
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/peru_coverup.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/04/video-of-missionaries-bei_n_449074.html

DEA agents shoot innocent 14-year-old girl in the head, but deny any wrongdoing.
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2998.html

http://www.isil.org/resources/lit/license-to-kill.html

DEA GO AWAY!!!
http://www.drugwarrant.com/articles/drug-war-victim/

Lets not forget Marc Emery a Canadian politician extradited because of his influence on the pro marijuana movement. He was extradited for selling seeds (which is legal in Canada) via mail to the U.S. unprecedented enforcement of American pollution on Canadian Sovereignty.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/8634

I have found pot wrapped in plastic, layered next in mustard, followed by a tinfoil layer, smeared with grease, re-wrapped with more plastic and finally blanketed with scented dryer sheets and dropped into coffee grounds!

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4873.html

For the record, you can be subject to both the laws of the country where you live and where you were born simultaneously, even if the two are not the same. ;P American paedophilia and tax laws come to mind...

Or other countries entirely. Just ask Marc Emery.

Off topic but I thought I would mention that in "Seeds of Change " Henry Hobhouse mentions the use of Spinach was a thinly veiled nod to Cocaine and also generations of kids had to eat the stuff because it was a high source of iron - where as it is nothing special for a leafy green.

You need to do your research better. A quick check of Amazon shows that the book you mention talks about 5 plants, none of which is spinach; the 5 plants are quinine, sugar, tea, cotton, and the potato.

As for Spinach, it is widely believed that Spinach was a metaphor for hemp / marijuana, not cocaine. The term "spinach" has been slang for marijuana since the early 20th century. A simple Google search for the terms "Popeye marijuana" brings up this article, as well as this follow-up article which includes a scan of an October 1939 Popeye comic book cover.

...I'm voting for him because a vote for someone who wants to put me in prison for smoking pot and hiring hookers is WORSE than a wasted vote.

You do know that Bob Barr was one of the most committed supporters of the War on Drugs in the congress, right?

http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=1416835

And, similar to Baldwin, he is no friend of religious freedom. He was responsible for trying to ban the practice of the Wiccan faith from US military bases:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/burn_aw2.htm

Such a record qualifies him to run on the Libertarian Party ticket?

Some links to back up your claims:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/1775.html

Look at the bottom for some links to studies of driving while under the influence of cannabis.

And with regard to cannabis being outlawed due to its' ability to replace not just paper but also cotton; this started in 1924 at the Opiates Conference in Geneva, where the Egyptians managed to get it on a list of dangerous drugs since it threatened its' cotton exports. In the USA this only got really going shortly after the machine described in this 1938 article in Popular Mechanics was invented:

http://www.jackherer.com/popmech.html

It's all so very very sad. Due to this, cotton is still our major source of textile while hemp, which feels like silk, is so much better. 50% of all pesticides used worldwide are used in growing cotton while hemp needs none. And have you ever seen a bible from the middle ages? Ever wondered why the paper still looks so very nice? It's hemp paper. It lasts a zillion times longer than the woodpulp-paper we use nowadays.

The world has gone mad; we've outlawed a plant that could replace cotton for textile and woodpulp for paper at the same time and then we haven't even started using it's seeds yet; they make GREAT bread (at my local mill it's now possible to legally buy hempseed flour).

http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7189

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/1775.html

I don't understand how you can ban one product that has grown out of the ground for 1000s of years and at the same time sell alcohol and cigarettes.

Why should I be a criminal because I want to get high and watch TV or play video games with my friends instead of drinking or smoking myself to death like my grandparents did.

As for the driving under the influence, the same could be said for quite a few over the counter products. The faster we get our robot drivers the happier I will be.

The best transliteration I've run across is "Kaneh Bosm", of which a simple invocation of "teh Google" will deliver pages of results. Here's a link to an article in Cannabis Culture by Chris Bennet that will break it all down: http://www.cannabisculture.com/backissues/cc05/kanehb.html All Hail Discordia

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2783.html

Pavlov demonstrated that when Transmarginal Inhibition began to take over a dog, a condition similar to hysteria in a human manifested. The applications of these findings to human psychology suggest that for a "conversion" to be effective, it is necessary to work on the subject's emotions until s/he reaches an abnormal condition of fear, anger or exaltation. If such a state is maintained or intensified by any of various means, hysteria is the result. In a state of hysteria, a human being is abnormally suggestible and influences in the environment can cause one set of behavior patterns to be replaced by another without any need for persuasive indoctrination. In states of fear and excitement, normally sensible human beings will accept the most wildly improbably suggestions. [. . .] Most of Pavlov's findings applicable to Mind Control are reported in a series of Pavlov's later lectures translated by Horsley Gantt, published in Great Britain and the United States in 1941 under the title "Conditioned Reflexes and Psychiatry." [5] Professor Y. P. Frolov's book about these experiments, Pavlov and His School [6] has also been translated into English. Article here

2. Tobacco smoke quickly lowers stress and anxiety and feelings of anger. It is one of the only two commonly used drugs on the market which while increasing clarity of thinking does not affect judgment. (Caffeine is the other). Old native bands meeting to discuss problems would all first smoke before opening their meeting, (hence, the "peace pipe"). Tobacco lent itself well to averting unnecessary anger and anxiety. In a world like ours today when fear is regularly promoted in such a way which guides the decisions and acceptance of the public with regard to international policy, knowledge

It is in the top 10 for CO2 fixation! It has over 25,000 uses of which smoking it is just 1!

We can make cloths, shoes, rope, cardboard, paper, and other goods from the fibers.
We can make bread, cooking oil, ethanol, bio diesel, and bird food from the seeds.
We can smoke the buds to relax.

Problem solved! We just plant it everywhere! Along the roads, in the unused fields, around the government buildings, just everywhere. No more global warming!

Interesting how the CO2 levels started to rise just after the government banned growing it!

We can also reduce the "War on Drugs" budget and redirect it to research on global warming. There is an instant $6,000,000,000 per year to find alternate energy sources. :)

Problem solved, now take that $25,000,000 prize and give it to the Marc Emery defiance fund.

You call that high quality nugs?!? How about some Sensimilia!

Two decades of research has shown that marijuana intoxication has a negligible negative effect on driving performance, and may even promote safe driving.Though it is an extremely good idea, as you said, to not allow this knowledge to impart false confidence, and to NEVER drive after consuming both alcohol and marijuana (there is a multiplier effect involved).

Do you think I would get away with it if I moved to Thailand and set up a website partypot.com, selling baggies of marijuana to Americans? This is no different.

Dude, his name is Marc Emery.

This website, while not too reliable-looking, lists several surprising names, including notable politicians (but we're discussing IQ here, so ignore those) and cites Bill Gates as a possible pothead. Most of the names listed are musicians (like Bob Marley-- duh!) and actors and writers, and if you're going to talk about them, you can just go ahead and list about every musician since the 50's :)

And before somebody says it, no, I don't think drug legalization is the answer.

Why?

Especially given all the evidence (failed prohibition in the 20s; current prohibition failing (I can get pot for $35/quarter, coke for $50 for a small bag but I don't buy it so I don't know exact amounts; mushrooms for $15 for 1.5 oz, and hits of acid for $5--and Greendale is a bodaciously small town, Lane!); huuuuuuuuuge amounts of tax dollars being thrown down the toilet in enforcement and prison-worship instead of humanely treating the abusers, and providing an environment for the mere users to enjoy the high; and conversely, absolutely no tax revenue from the billions (US government estimates $60-108 billion) of dollars of sales per year of these products and associated products and services (most pipes are sold by head shops, which pay taxes; however, fucking Tommy Chong went to jail (but good news: was released a year ago) just for selling pieces of plastic with pictures of himself on them!) trying to make an honest buck.

Sorry, didn't mean to go off on a rant, but how can you possibly defend that position? "I know better than you what you should put in your body?" Bullshit! We're all sovereign entities over our cells. "Your smoking pot might raise my health care bills" is not evidence to be used in defending prohibition; it's evidence to be used in eliminating the existing health-care system which has too many interdependencies! (Insurance would not be offered if it wasn't profitable; therefore, it would be most efficient if the user paid 100%, but that's not possible because prices are inflated because the insurers will pay them.)

What makes you think drug illegalization was the right answer for the time, back when the decisions were made, either? Most accounts show that the predominant reason for making a substance illegal is because "them nigger's been fuckin my daughters!" Or Chinks, Spics, whatever racial slur the racists who made those laws used to get the abominations passed. Are you, therefore, a racist?

Guess you missed the news about the DEA seeking the arrest and extradiction of Marc Emery then ...

http://www.cannabisculture.com/

Emery is a CANADIAN citizen who has NOT been in the U.S. for over a decade, and operates his business from within Canada, including his web servers, etc.

Yet, despite all of that, the DEA has sought his extradiction ... and before anyone replies back with something like "but he was sending seeds to the U.S." ... the point is the tenticles of the U.S. extend to most ALL CANADIANS and to that of citizens of numerous other countries around the world - the DEA and other various U.S. law enforcement agencies actually have OFFICES and conduct investigations in Canada, and many other countries globally.

Point of my tirade is that moving may not help; in large part due to technology, such as being described in this Slashdot news item.

Ron

Electric as in electric puha?

no it wouldn't. In fact there is a correllation between high amounts of UV and high potency pot. UV lighting alone isnt enough to grow marijuana but is used by professional growers and breeders more and more often these days.

It's patterns of usage that coincide with optimal gowing conditions that they watch for.

It's also a crime to rape people, steal, view child porn using government property, armed robbery, and thousands more.

you're 100% right. they certainly do it all the time.

as long as you can get your medical marijuana

"Sinsemilla" means reefer without seeds in it. The word is Spanish for "no seeds". So there's no such thing as "sinsemilla seeds".

Not a bad idea, though. Cannabis is a weed, it'll grow just about anywhere. Hey, if they can grow it in Afghanistan, it should do OK on Mars. Start saving those seeds, boys!

No, there isn't. Depending on what the Supremes say next week might I recommend Vansterdam? Visiting purely for weather of course.

Actually, cancer is caused by the fact that tobacco in the US is grown in radioative soil. The tar just helps to keep the radioactive isotopes in the lungs longer.

(If for some reason you don't trust stoners, then just do a google search and find your own link)

Thus, "pot" isn't legal here in Canada

Actually you are wrong.

The legislation you are referring to has yet to be introduced in the
house and looking at the current time table for the fall session, it is
highly unlikely to be introduced until spring (if at all).

The interesting bit is that last year the Ontario Court of
Appeal deemed that the portion of the criminal code dealing with
pot is unconstitutional and gave the Feds 1 year to change the law or
the current pot laws would be declared void. This was the reason the
new law was drafted: the Feds had little choice in the matter. Well, 1
year has been up for quite a while now which means that all laws
concerning pot in Ontario (and only Ontario) are now void. The courts
have instructed that the police not to arrest people in possession or
even selling of pot (since all the laws are now void) because the they
will not be heard in court. The courts have also instructed the police
not to even seize pot from people because they are not allow to seize
private property and could be sued for doing so.

--PCB

Not to mention Cannabis Culture magazine, detailing "How to Judge Marijuana", among other things. Yes, it's published in Canada, but I've seen at least one reputable bookstore (Borders) in America with a copy. Of course, this is the same store that had the pr0n with the other magazines, just in little "censoring" plastic bags that strategically covered up the cover art...

Leave your stoners in America where they belong!

You mean North America, right?

I did learn here that commercial hemp operations could be devastating to marijuana production. I learned here that marijuana pollen does have forensic value to law enforcement. I learned here that in Spain, "the hemp pollen count is broadcast on the nightly TV news" as some people are allergic.

Hopefully, I will have learned from your most encouraging comment to contribute to Slashdot in a botanically-friendly fashion.

Just because the bill has been revised doesn't mean that we are no longer in danger of the threats it poses to our rights. Because the version passed by the House differs from the one which passed the Senate, Congress must again decide which version to pass. And even if the House's version passes, that probably won't be enough to stop Senator Feinstein, who will likely beat her opponent, Tom Campbell, in the next elections.

Congress will supposedly convene Tuesday, and when that happens you can read about it on their web site. In the meantime, you can read more coverage on this bill here.