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I graduated to http://dailypaul.com, which is now http://popularliberty.com. More of the stories are regarding our liberty, which I (now, later in life) find to be immensely more interesting than the latest gadget or computer language.

It's not even clear that the issue is weapons. This isn't 1980s Afghanistan we're talking about. Ukraine is a former member of the USSR and was within spitting distance of NATO, so they're armed with fighter and attack aircraft, helicopter gunships, transport aircraft, artillery, armored personnel carriers, etc. etc.

None of it in a particularly good order, most of it a generation behind. And not enough of it to withstand Russia, which poured their gas-monies into weapons and training — in addition to skilful propaganda relying not only on the Leftists traditionally sympathetic to anything "revolutionary", but also on the Rigthists this time...

early on in the conflict, a group of soldiers simply surrendered their armored personnel carriers without a shot being fired

And the keyword here is "early in the conflict". Up until late Spring Russian television was allowed to broadcast in Ukraine... But, yes, Ukrainian's regular military does have issues of its own — many senior officers entered service during Soviet times. But not the newly-formed National Guard volunteers, who remain the shining edge of Ukraine's otherwise rusty blade. And they had to scrounge equipment themselves — from guns and ammunition to infra-red detectors to life-saving Celox...

presumably they're offering intelligence support such as satellite photos as well

Yeah, "presumably". Maybe, now they do alright. But what prevented them from doing it before Crimea got invaded? Russia was massing forces for it for a month in advance — had Pentagon not seen it from above? They had... And they surely had informed the President. But Mr. Incompetent did no see fit to inform Ukraine — neither side of the political fight there — so the invasion was a complete surprise for them... Ukrainian units stationed on peninsula did not know, what to do, and the new leaders did not have a worked-out policy. Their excuse is, they had more important things to do, what's Obama's? Too busy signing people up for Obamacare?

The US has sent body armor and night vision goggles.

Only in June! Four months since Russia first invaded — and only after multiple people, both Republican and Democrats, demanded it. Had Obama been anything more than a pathetic "community organizer", he would've reacted in March instead of trying to glue the pitiful attempts to "Reset" his relationship with Russia back together. But then, if he had been, Putin might not even have dared to invade in the first place...

Perhaps more importantly, the West has committed $27 billion in aid to Ukraine over the next two years

First of all, it is an IMF loan, not true aid. It is still welcome, of course, but it will be a while before it helps troops on the ground. Putin remains a step ahead of our amateur, who is training on-the job (as his own Vice-Amateur once said).

Interesting DIY! Do the bulbs you use just put out UV-B and minimize UV-A? Something on the difference regarding vitamin D production vs. skin damage:
General: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...
http://articles.mercola.com/si...
http://articles.mercola.com/si...

One point made by Mercola is that it could take 48 hours for the body to absorb vitamin D produced in skin oils from sun exposure, so bathing with soap become problematical if you want maximum Vitamin D? People in other times and cultures both generally got lots more sunlight and did not bathe very often.

Here is a comment suggesting looking into special UV-B enhanced bulbs available for reptile care, but I wonder if they are enhanced enough to be the best choice for humans, given it seems many reptiles need UV-A to see colors correctly?
http://www.dailypaul.com/24584...

Some interesting SAD-and-light-color related comment here:
http://www.instructables.com/i...

My wife found vitamin D supplements are more effective than a blue LED SAD light...

Anyway, I've been learning some new stuff while re-exploring this topic. I usually take a vitamin D supplement. I get some sunshine when I can, but since I take a shower every day, I wonder if the sunlight is really that effective for vitamin D production? Still, as above, like Dr. John Cannell talks about, I wonder if there is still something missing that my skin might produce from real sun exposure.

Still, there remain many unknowns about human health, so would getting only UV-B (which makes vitamin D) and no UV-A (which tans the skin) be health promoting for humans? The human body is adapted to a certain environment which includes exercise in the sunlight. When we change our environment to one that seems better but is less natural, it is hard to know what we may lose out on. The same is true when we eat foods that may seem more enjoyable like with lots of sugar, fat, and salt via refined grains, but may leave us missing out on micronutrients and fiber that we need to stay healthy.
https://www.drfuhrman.com/libr...

"Insurance Companies in the United States have begun notifying customers they will no longer have ANY coverage whatsoever for anything relating to nuclear energy claims. Fallout, radiation sickness, property damage from radiation - all EXCLUDED" http://www.turnerradionetwork.... http://www.dailypaul.com/31155...

Yeah, as an example, in ancient China, you only paid the doctor when you were well...
http://www.dailypaul.com/256879/tcm-traditional-chinese-medicine-paying-your-doctor-to-keep-you-well

Even now, Chinese doctors get good but not outrageous pay:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicine_in_China#Physician_compensation

Maybe they were on to something in their overall approach?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Chinese_medicine
"TCM's view of the body places little emphasis on anatomical structures, but is mainly concerned with the identification of functional entities (which regulate digestion, breathing, aging etc.). While health is perceived as harmonious interaction of these entities and the outside world, disease is interpreted as a disharmony in interaction. TCM diagnosis includes in tracing symptoms to patterns of an underlying disharmony, by measuring the pulse, inspecting the tongue, skin, eyes and by looking at the eating and sleeping habits of the patient as well as many other things."

People like Andrew Weil seem to focus on integrating the best of all the medical approaches.
http://integrativemedicine.arizona.edu/

For a more extreme criticism of Western Medicine, see Ivan Illich's book "Medical Nemesis":
http://www.soilandhealth.org/03sov/0303critic/030313illich/Frame.Illich.Ch1.html

http://www.dailypaul.com/248500/presidential-write-in-laws-by-state

Depends on the state, but in most cases you'd be just as good protesting by throwing your ballot in the trash and walking out.

Let's Implement the Future Shall We?

The old Paradigm is over the mechanisms of monopolized force theft and coercion have been broken! The former PTB just don't know it yet and are desperately trying to keep the illusion alive. However it is evaporating like the dew in the morning sun!

Outlaw guns we'll just print them out. Try and steal our money and call it a tax to bad can't track our transactions nor break the encryption on our wallets. Don't need 3rd party financial institutions for transactions anymore so thieves posing as protectors can't steal our money. No more centralized manufacturing or food production with 3D printing and aquaponics, hugelkultur/permaculture, ethanol & bi-diesel, solar and wind, and new emerging energy technology etc. etc. These are the technologies of freedom! ...

Someone with more information about the paper will have to chime in here but it does look like typical, sleezy, last minute, mud slinging American politics.

Not to throw a monkey wrench into your partisan analysis, but there is nothing "last minute" about this. The Ron Paul folks noticed this about eight months ago.

http://www.dailypaul.com/220841/proof-of-election-fraud-algorithm-discovered

Wait... I know why. His military spending was funded by federal grant!

http://www.dailypaul.com/246022/joker-hit-jackpot-26k-federal-grant

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/07/03/melinda-gates-admits-stop-peoples-lives-from-existing/
Cited here:
http://www.dailypaul.com/243131/eugenicist-melinda-gates-stop-the-poor-from-reproducing

Or:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/melinda_gates_talks_eugenics.html
"Eugenics is the infamous idea that governments should decide which kinds of citizens ought to be considered desirable (the 1912 consensus was that these tended to be white, athletic, intelligent, and wealthy) and which kinds of citizens ought to be considered undesirable (these tended to be black, Jewish, disabled, or poor) and employ the power of the state to encourage increases of desirable citizens (positive eugenics) and encourage decreases of undesirable citizens (negative eugenics). The founder of eugenics, Sir Francis Galton, a half-cousin of Charles Darwin, formulated the idea that the protection afforded by civil society had prevented the kind of natural selection occurring in Darwin's Origin of Species from happening in humans, thus perpetuating the existence of weak and feeble-minded people who would have been unable to survive in the state of nature.
Eugenicists differed on whether eugenics should be practiced in a soft manner, with taxpayer-underwritten incentives, or in a hard manner, using coercive and often deadly force. The movement claimed many adherents. Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger and her British counterpart Marie Stopes were both involved in their national eugenic societies. Margaret Sanger viewed her activism as a way to "assist the race towards the elimination of the unfit." Marie Stopes lobbied for "the sterilization of those totally unfit for parenthood [to be] made an immediate possibility, indeed made compulsory.""Eugenics is the infamous idea that governments should decide which kinds of citizens ought to be considered desirable (the 1912 consensus was that these tended to be white, athletic, intelligent, and wealthy) and which kinds of citizens ought to be considered undesirable (these tended to be black, Jewish, disabled, or poor) and employ the power of the state to encourage increases of desirable citizens (positive eugenics) and encourage decreases of undesirable citizens (negative eugenics). The founder of eugenics, Sir Francis Galton, a half-cousin of Charles Darwin, formulated the idea that the protection afforded by civil society had prevented the kind of natural selection occurring in Darwin's Origin of Species from happening in humans, thus perpetuating the existence of weak and feeble-minded people who would have been unable to survive in the state of nature.
Eugenicists differed on whether eugenics should be practiced in a soft manner, with taxpayer-underwritten incentives, or in a hard manner, using coercive and often deadly force. The movement claimed many adherents. Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger and her British counterpart Marie Stopes were both involved in their national eugenic societies. Margaret Sanger viewed her activism as a way to "assist the race towards the elimination of the unfit." Marie Stopes lobbied for "the sterilization of those totally unfit for parenthood [to be] made an immediate possibility, indeed made compulsory.""

I am just shocked at how most slashdotters have fallen hook, line, and sinker for the overpopulation myth.
http://overpopulationisamyth.com/

As Julian Simon suggests, more people means more imagination, which can mean more wealth for everyone:
http://www.juliansimon.com/writings/Ultimate_Resource/

And in any case, the world is suffering more from a demographic pea

Not in the US! I mean religious in the US would never downplay the contributions of deists ( http://www.dailypaul.com/128828/texas-yanks-thomas-jefferson-from-teaching-standard ) or exaggerate the religiosity of other founding fathers ( http://home.comcast.net/~pobrien48/Lies%20for%20Jesus%20and%20Christiaity.htm http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/06/09/you-know-david-barton-has-a-re/ ), and then used that fictional history to complain about how we're moving away from what the founding fathers wanted for the United States.

Rigged voting machines are just the tip of the iceberg. There's a lot more going on at multiple levels.

Here's a compilation (mostly but not all videos) showing voting inconsistencies and fraud: http://www.dailypaul.com/238098/great-compilation-detailing-the-voting-inconsistencies-not-to-say-blatant-fraud

Mitt Romney is essentially owned by the same people as Obama (check out their top donors), and his popularity was essentially manufactured by the media. Do a Google image search for "Romney Crowd" and compare with "Ron Paul Crowd". That is something that's impossible to fake, so it tends to go unreported. If you ask Paul supporters why they support their candidate, and they'll talk about many different issues at great length. If you ask Romney supporters the same question, you tend to hear "I voted for him because we need to get rid of Obama" or "He's a businessman, and that's gotta be good for the economy, right?" The people are voting against something (Obama) instead of voting FOR something. This is the type of reasoning that tends to make the new boss the same as the old boss.

The Paul campaign is redirecting their attention to the delegate strategy---which is turning out to be very successful. This is being discussed at The Daily Paul. They predicted that the media would intentionally misrepresent this as Ron Paul ending his campaign, and they were right.

Ron Paul can't do anything about it. The man has no power.

- and he is not supposed to have power. Neither should others in government have power.

Ron Paul built a coalition to get a partial audit of the Fed, you now know at least something they were doing, and even this little information is horrendous.

In the next Presidential election, there isn't any candidate who I can vote for with a clear conscience. This is sad.

I will vote for the least scared politician.

It would seem the media blackout of Ron Paul is effecting you greatly. As a fellow veteran I urge you to visit The Daily Paul and reconsider!

they don't finger fuck anyone, and you look like an ass for making it up. Stop It, You Are Not Helping. You are making people that need to be involved think people who are against are crazy assholes. You do not win support that way, and no matter how right you may be , without support nothing changes.

You, sir, obviously do not follow politics: Politicians make outrageous, nonsensical statements daily, and their constituents eat that shit up, no questions asked. Therefore, your implication that my pointing out how TSA agents are legalized pedophiles (which, BTW, is not made up) somehow damages efforts to reign their child-molesting asses in, is, in essence, complete and utter bullshit.

If anything, Asshole apologists such as yourself are the real danger here - everyone play nice, don't yell, don't make a fuss... just think of unicorn farts and rainbow burgers while the nice government agents rape your children.

Couple of hundred, maybe a thousand people tops in each.

You're kidding, right? At UCLA alone they had 5800+ people. The stadium was at capacity and people were climbing trees just to try and get a look. The fire marshal stopped letting people in, and hundreds were outside. Other crowds have been of similar sizes. In 2 consecutive days he got over 10,000 people at his rallies.

Here's a page with links to more better shots at UCLA. If you think that's only a thousand people, I certainly hope you don't have a job where you have to count very high. http://www.dailypaul.com/224747/msm-predicts-huge-ucla-crowd

Also, only partly related: Tonight Ron Paul swept up all the delegates at the caucus St. Charles County Missouri. Check #mocaucus on Twitter if you don't believe me. The others tried combining forces against Ron Paul and yet he still won by an amazing amount. This type of thing has been happening in multiple states. He has the support where it counts. I'd much rather have a candidate with support that's an inch wide and a mile deep than a candidate with support that is a mile wide but only an inch deep.

Un-Christain attitude? How ridiculous!

I mean, what can possibly be more Christian than booing the Gospel of Matthew?

I've shown you repeatedly that the bill does no such thing.

- you have never shown me anything, you have said it every time, but that means zilch.

You never provide sources, and when you do post links they don't say what you claim they say.

- links and quotes and more links.

The President cannot round people up into concentration camps. That's simply not true.

- ACLU and directors of CIA, FBI and National Intelligence say you are wrong and he can.

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I have MORE information, this time

Part 1

Part 2

This is by Joanne Mariner, a Justia columnist, is the director of Hunter College's Human Rights Program. She is an expert on human rights, counterterrorism, and international humanitarian law.

Her conclusion is that you are WRONG and the provision 1021 of NDAA MUST BE REPEALED.

Of-course Ron Paul introduced a bill to repeal that section of NDAA, we'll see how that goes.

As others have said, there is one major presidential candidate who is against SOPA: Ron Paul. I don't personally support Mr. Paul because of unrelated issues, but it's a fact he is opposed to SOPA, to the point of joining the blackout.

Slightly off-topic but if you are asking "what can I do" and you want to get at the root cause, not the symptom, you might want to check out the Move to Amend.

Democrats are too busy registering Republican to get Ron Paul the nomination. Despite all the differences we might have with the man, he has the right ideas regarding the military, the war on drugs, the TSA.

We need a Paul vs Obama election. At least the debates will be over *real* issues.

Try *assassinate* underaged US citizens (born on US soil) because they could have been associated with (suspected) terrorists!

I am not talking about al-Awlaki the senior (I can see how people might be divided about him, though, I'd say, if proper Judiciary inquest into his doings were held in the open and conclude with "bring dead or alive", I would not mind much), but his 16 years old son!

http://www.salon.com/2011/10/20/the_killing_of_awlakis_16_year_old_son/
http://www.dailypaul.com/181607/obamas-assassination-order-and-the-secret-memo

Fed up yet?

Paul B.

Good job completely avoiding the topic at hand. How does your favorite candidate's plan to bring home the troops make any difference for emergency responders?

- National Guard would come home AND money would be available in case of real emergencies.

Oh, how cute. Most conservative idiots just try to link Obama to the middle east or Islam. Instead you want people to think he is a Star Wars Wookie from Kazakhstan? Yeah, that makes perfect sense if you're on heavy drugs.

- no, I just like the SOUND of it:

Just say it outloud: BORAT CHUBAKA.

It really sounds better than his name.

By the way, it's on the record in this site (I can find the links), I don't believe in any of the nonsense about Obama, he is whatever, it doesn't matter to me one bit. His mother is a US citizens, so is he. He says he is Christian, good for him. I am an ATHEIST. I don't care.

As opposed to what other president that we've had in the US in the past several decades?

- PRECISELY.

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Now, tell me this: are you sympathetic to the OWS demand that the banks stop having special privileges with the government? Are you against special privileges that the banks have, with all that money?

If you say 'YES', then you are a hypocrite. You are against some special privileges but you are for other special privileges.

FEMA is no better than the banks, it's all moral hazard, it's all fake insurance and it's all financed by theft (either via taxes or via inflation - printing or via future taxes - borrowing).

To me the banks getting bail outs or the victims of natural disasters getting bail outs - SAME DEAL. They all have moral hazard provided by government and they all get bailed out with theft. They all should go out of business and they all should have private insurance and be regulated by market regulations, not gov't bullshit.

if you say 'NO' - then I can understand your position. You like big gov't, you are with all this spending, you are fine with borrowing, taxing income, printing and inflating money, then your position is NOT hypocritical, but it is the WRONG position.

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As to whether Ron Paul has no chance. Whatever. Let us look at the facts.

Ron Paul is pulling in millions from tiny donations, he pulled in 8 million in the third quarter of 2011. He is steady at 11-15% support.

He just won another straw poll in Iowa with 82% out of 430 voters.

In the Iowa voters result, Paul took 82%. Following him were Herman Cain with 14.7%, Rick Santorum with 1%, Newt Gingrich with 0.9%, Michele Bachmann with 0.5%, Rick Perry with 0.5%, Gary Johnson with 0.2%, with Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman 0%.

for non-Iowans who voted he ALSO won:

In the tally of non-Iowans who voted, Paul won 26% followed by Cain at 25%, Perry and Santorum tied at 16%, Gingrich at 11%, Bachmann at 6%, Romney at 1%, and Huntsman and Johnson with 0%.

See, that's called COMMITMENT. You think it takes a majority to win? It takes a group of dedicated people acting as one and not sitting on their asses.

The thing about Ron Paul is he attracts pioneer stock folks: The very sort of folks that made "Progress and Poverty" the most widely read book other than the Bible in the latter half of the 19th century US. That's why his campaign organs (like the Daily Paul) are a good place to call the Austrians on their virulence. Read over my posts there for a good example of ripping Ron Paul a new asshole as loyal opposition.

Using the US government as your debt-collection agency so you can park your capital somewhere while you golf with Obama or whatever it is you do, is EXACTLY the kind of thing that results in the deindustrialization of the economy.

When TFA says: "banks buy them as low-risk assets" it is betraying the truth of the "economics" profession reflected in Modern Portfolio Theory's so-called "risk free asset". The reality is that this "risk free asset" is the foundation of the centralization of wealth via what classical economists referred to as "economic rent": The portion of return on the economy which is, for all practical purposes, simply the result of there being an economy.

A rational political economy would distribute all economic rent evenly in a citizen's dividend thereby replacing all government transfer programs (with their attendant public sector rent seeking) with market demand for what the people (as opposed to the wealthy or the politically influential with their lobbyists) need..

Since it is clear that the US Federal government is now captured by the rentiers (rent seekers) of both the private and public sectors, it cannot admit rational political economic thought. So the responsibility devolves to the States. There is a proposal for State legislation to remediate some of the pathology created by a positive feedback loop of centralized power, but realistically, even the State governments are so depleted of resources by this vicious cycle that there is little hope for them to salvage the Republic.

Except other currencies have been relatively stable with the dollar.

And before you start saying "well, they had 200% inflation too!", they didn't, because the prices of non-gold commodities didn't go up by the same amount. Gold is in a bubble.

Bullshit. How about oil? And how about industrial commodities? Have you compared the price of gold over time to the price of wheat?

I also suggest you take a careful look at the stock market, which the "experts" in Washington and at the Fed claim is indicating a recovery. In fact, the stock market prices simply reflect the first place where the devalued dollar starts to show large price increases. Check out the indexes vs. the price of gold, and you'll notice that the market is still depressed, and the only thing that is failing is the fiat "money" that the elites are fooling everyone with and using to rob the lower classes.

So...you're saying we should eliminate most of the government *except* NASA? Is that the one thing out of everything the private sector can't do? Just curious because I totally wasn't expecting that from a Ron Paul supporter. Most libertarians say things like "sell it off" or "starve it to make it more efficient". And yes, I did just skim through several pages on the subject.

See: http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article14996.html http://viewzone2.com/fakegoldx.html http://gold-quote.net/en/articles/fake-tungsten-gold-bars.php http://news.coinupdate.com/largest-private-refinery-discovers-gold-plated-tungsten-bar-0171/ http://www.gata.org/node/8390 Some people are suggesting that the businesses offering cash for gold jewellery are doing so because there is less likelihood that they will be deceived than they would be if buying bullion. Also, in related news: http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=658195 http://dailypaul.com/99841/where-is-our-gold-that-is-missing-from-fort-knox http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=45782 BTW, I couldn't find any of this referred to on any mainstream site, so I leave it to others to determine if this is rumour or not.

Correction: The group in power always wins. Now ask yourself what proportion of federal elected officials are lawyers. This page says 54% of Senate and 36% of Congress (about 40% total). And who benefits if laws are complex? That's right, the lawyers.

This is kind of like letting the developer write the software documentation. Sure, it's correct, but 90% of the users will never be able to understand it.

A Drupal site doesn't have to look like anything in particular (especially a stock Drupal site with a blue theme and "Drupal devil" icon).

Here's

a newspaper: http://observer.com/
a magazine site: http://www.economist.com/
a discussion site: http://dailypaul.com/
a parody site: http://www.theonion.com/

And some more: 45 Drupal Sites Which You May Not Have Known Were Drupal Based

I'm not sure if I'd call random suspicionless check points within the US "almost none". But I guess it only really applies if you are part of the rare 2/3rds that live with 100 miles of a border. Admittedly, not many people have actually experienced these check points yet. However, the key to government usurping illegal powers is getting a foot in the door first.

Whatever their angle, Fox News misleads their viewers in support of it.

Citation?

MSNBC anchor Dylan Ratigan apologized this morning for using fake photos of Sarah Palin last Friday in a segment about the former Alaska governor, and for not acknowledging their inauthenticity.

CNN then misrepresented the same photos

MSNBC defends fraudulent Rand Paul transcript as "technically correct", makes no apologies

Lets not forget when CBS tried like hell not to admit to this, spawning the "Fake but Accurate" meme

Thats just a small sampling of demonstrable misinformation events. It looks to me like there is ample evidence (CITATIONS) for these networks here to use fake stories to further specific political agendas, often around election time.

I'm not saying that Fox doesnt have its share of FUD, but come on.. look at this shit. These are blatant attempts to influence elections in extremely fraudulent ways.

http://www.emaxhealth.com/1275/deep-cuts-health-care-services-uk
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/140810
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/295111
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1253438/Mid-Staffordshire-NHS-hospital-routinely-neglected-patients.html?ITO=1490

Yeah, because we all know that Google would never spy on anyone, or partner with anyone who does, like say the CIA.

http://www.dailytech.com/Former+Agent+Says+Google+and+CIA+in+Partnership/article4774.htm

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/141153

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/07/exclusive-google-cia/

Just that makes this pretty big news I think..

Anderson Cooper is ADMITTEDLY CIA, and he is the heir to the Astor
Fortune! This guy is part of "Operation Mockingbird".

"Anderson Cooper Admittedly Is CIA. His Mother Is Gloria Vanderbilt. Cooper is Next In Line To Inherit The Vast Vanderbilt And Astor Fortune."
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/120962

"Anderson Cooper has long traded on his biography, carving a niche for himself as the most human of news anchors. But there's one aspect of his past that the silver-haired CNN star has never made public: the months he spent training for a career with the Central Intelligence Agency.
Following his sophomore and junior years at Yale--a well-known recruiting ground for the CIA--Cooper spent his summers interning at the agency's monolithic headquarters in Langley, Virginia, in a program for students interested in intelligence work. His involvement with the agency ended there, and he chose not to pursue a job with the agency after graduation, according to a CNN spokeswoman, who confirmed details of Cooper's CIA involvement to Radar."

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2006/09/anderson-coopers-cia-secret.php

Is Anderson Cooper CIA?
http://open.salon.com/blog/billmeradeia/2010/03/26/is_anderson_cooper_cia

"Anderson Cooper was admittedly in the CIA and is part of the elite Astor family"
Alex Jones Behind the Scenes of CNN's Attack Piece
http://www.infowars.com/alex-jones-inside-cnn-attack-piece/

Operation Mockingbird: CIA Media Manipulation
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_louise_01_03_03_mockingbird.html

MOCKINGBIRD The Subversion Of The Free Press By The CIA
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MOCK/mockingbird.html

Operation Mockingbird
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=anderson+cooper+Astor+Fortune&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=36ec6be010d257f
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=anderson+cooper+CIA&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=36ec6be010d257f
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=Operation+Mockingbird&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=36ec6be010d257f

"Tea Party supporters are

I apologize. I should have been clearer when I referred to the "public face of the tea party". Obviously, that can be interpreted to mean the caricatures of bigoted, pidgin English bearing sign wielders you see all the time. While such parasites (who hang on to the movement and make a mockery of it) are a huge concern, that was not what I was referring to.

My idea of the "public face of the tea party" is rabid, unintelligent buffoons like Palin, Beck, Bachmann and that breed of blowhards. In other words, the tea party's most prominent leaders. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the rank and file of the party is exactly as you describe. It is a pity that the lower echelon nobodies in the GOP have latched onto this (originally) grassroots movement and have completely sacrificed it just to ensure they stay in power.

As long as the loyal cadre of its supporters continue to let it be hijacked by the very few (but very prominent) bigots that are trying to break away from the GOP and build their own little toy power base, the tea party's stated manifesto and philosophy remains meaningless to me. With these clowns (again, referring to their leaders and the candidates they have fielded) in power, it's just business as usual - with a lot more rhetoric and lot less action than we have now.

If the tea party is serious about wanting to break away from dirty politics and truly want change, they have to field a leadership that's better than the incumbents. So far, it's been the exact opposite.

In fact, if their core is as educated and wealthy as you say they are, I am even more baffled at the simians they have chosen as their leaders (and hence their 'public face'). And as we all know, no matter how noble the grassroots supporters, it is their front man in congress or the white house who determines what really happens. As a voter, I will be voting (or not) for the candidates they field and as long as someone like Palin continues to be their poster child for what they stand for, I will be happy to take them at their word and do everything in my power to ensure that they remain an irrelevant minority in the political process.

If they wise up and distance themselves from the prominent assholes that are riding them for their own gain, I will be more than happy to check out their manifesto and even sign on if I find it acceptable. Until then, as a person concerned with consequences more than intentions, any "Contracts from America" are irrelevant. Call it a philosophical boycott if you will. You want the people to listen to you and take you seriously? Then top acting like battered spouses and develop at least a modicum of control within your own party - above all, don't let the old school leaders dominate the new one. Exercise some control over who your leaders are instead of just surrendering your leadership to the first media blowhard or failed politician that comes your way. Use the Ron Pauls - tell the Palins and Bachmanns to GTFO.

It is starting to look as if this might actually happen so I'm [very cautiously] hopeful [for example, THIS and THAT]. Perhaps Rand Paul's victory may signal a shift that the idiots are no longer welcome in the Tea Party, and wouldn't that be awesome?

"Tea Party supporters are

I apologize. I should have been clearer when I referred to the "public face of the tea party". Obviously, that can be interpreted to mean the caricatures of bigoted, pidgin English bearing sign wielders you see all the time. While such parasites (who hang on to the movement and make a mockery of it) are a huge concern, that was not what I was referring to.

My idea of the "public face of the tea party" is rabid, unintelligent buffoons like Palin, Beck, Bachmann and that breed of blowhards. In other words, the tea party's most prominent leaders. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the rank and file of the party is exactly as you describe. It is a pity that the lower echelon nobodies in the GOP have latched onto this (originally) grassroots movement and have completely sacrificed it just to ensure they stay in power.

As long as the loyal cadre of its supporters continue to let it be hijacked by the very few (but very prominent) bigots that are trying to break away from the GOP and build their own little toy power base, the tea party's stated manifesto and philosophy remains meaningless to me. With these clowns (again, referring to their leaders and the candidates they have fielded) in power, it's just business as usual - with a lot more rhetoric and lot less action than we have now.

If the tea party is serious about wanting to break away from dirty politics and truly want change, they have to field a leadership that's better than the incumbents. So far, it's been the exact opposite.

In fact, if their core is as educated and wealthy as you say they are, I am even more baffled at the simians they have chosen as their leaders (and hence their 'public face'). And as we all know, no matter how noble the grassroots supporters, it is their front man in congress or the white house who determines what really happens. As a voter, I will be voting (or not) for the candidates they field and as long as someone like Palin continues to be their poster child for what they stand for, I will be happy to take them at their word and do everything in my power to ensure that they remain an irrelevant minority in the political process.

If they wise up and distance themselves from the prominent assholes that are riding them for their own gain, I will be more than happy to check out their manifesto and even sign on if I find it acceptable. Until then, as a person concerned with consequences more than intentions, any "Contracts from America" are irrelevant. Call it a philosophical boycott if you will. You want the people to listen to you and take you seriously? Then top acting like battered spouses and develop at least a modicum of control within your own party - above all, don't let the old school leaders dominate the new one. Exercise some control over who your leaders are instead of just surrendering your leadership to the first media blowhard or failed politician that comes your way. Use the Ron Pauls - tell the Palins and Bachmanns to GTFO.

It is starting to look as if this might actually happen so I'm [very cautiously] hopeful [for example, THIS and THAT]. Perhaps Rand Paul's victory may signal a shift that the idiots are no longer welcome in the Tea Party, and wouldn't that be awesome?

Agreed. Maybe Ron Paul would like to help on this.

After 48 hours once the communication is shut down and the military deployed ...... the President will simply say "What congress?"

I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned already, but there was legislation introduced this year to allow the president to shut down the internet in an emergency. The bill is called the Cybersecurity Act of 2009. Imagine if they wanted to shut down the phone system or TV/Radio systems in an emergency. Read about it here and here.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/47632

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What is the fucking world coming to? I always liked Paul Malls better than camels, cause they're longer that that short ass shit. But not everyone can BUY paul malls. Then again LSMFT (lucky strike means fuckable titties!)

This particular recount was requested by a democrat and was targetted to demo ballots.

Ron Paul never claimed there was a NH problem. They released a statement that claimed their counts and internal polls jibed with the reported results and that any discrepencies were innocent.

The President grants executive powers to do what he wants. Seriously though, it shouldn't even really be one U.S. citizen that they do this with. When does the fear mongering to get broad reaching government powers end? I'm so damned tired of it, and this country has slid so far downhill in the last 5 or so years due to it. Just about every other nation looks at the U.S. in a bad light these days because we're prudish, invasive, annoying, and hipocritical. I'm getting to the point where I want to purge the entire administration from the lowest congressman all the way up and start over. Take out the special interest groups, no corporate sponsorships for campaigns, and get rid of the all the harpy lobbyists. I'm just so sick of it.

Freedom brings us all together. We can all agree on leaving people alone to plan and live their own lives, rather than trying to force them to obey at the point of a gun, as runaway government does. Instead of clawing at each other via the warfare-welfare state, people under liberty can cooperate in a unity of diversity.

There is no need to use government to threaten others who have different standards, or to be threatened by them. Looking to our Founders, our traditions, and the Constitution, we can build, in peaceful cooperation, a free and prosperous society. ...

Unconstitutional government has created a war crisis, a financial crisis, a dollar crisis, and a freedom crisis. But we don't have to take it. We don't have to passively accept more dead soldiers, a lower standard of living, rising prices, a national ID, eavesdropping on our emails and phone calls, and all the rest.

We can return to first principles, and build the brightest, most brilliant future any people on earth has ever aspired to. Help me teach this lesson. Help me campaign all over this country, in cooperation with our huge and growing volunteer army. Help me show that change is not only possible, but also essential.

Dr. Paul is against the Hypocrisy in the Middle East as can be seen in his Weekly Column here: http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2007/tst022607.ht m Basically he wants to quit funding the military build up in the region and "We should stop propping up dictators and putting band-aids on festering problems." as he says.

Another site that is keeping track of him is: http://dailypaul.com/ You guys should pop in there for a quick read and then determine if he is really the same old tired Republicans that we have had recently or if he truly has some "Direction of the Country" altering ideas as I know that he does.

http://www.house.gov/paul/legis_tst.htm His weekly Column
http://www.house.gov/paul/legis_congrec.htm His Speeches and Statements on the Record and on The House floor.
http://www.house.gov/paul/legis_press.htm His Press Releases.

I truly do encourage you guys to read and not let the main stream media tell you what to think. That is the root of most of the country's problems right there. People need to start getting informed on their own and making decisions for themselves. If Dr. Paul doesn't get the nomination (which unfortunately he probably won't) then I will be voting for a third party. Neither the Democrans nor the Republicrats are doing what they promised to do when elected and the only thing one party has to do to get elected is screw you less than the other party. Let's face it, the Democrats didn't win in November as much as the Bush led Republicans lost. The only thing that will change this is if a third party actually starts to gain some ground and threaten the two existing parties. Let's face it, the problem with only having only two parties is being forced to choose the lesser of two evils.

Dr. Paul is against the Hypocrisy in the Middle East as can be seen in his Weekly Column here: http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2007/tst022607.ht m Basically he wants to quit funding the military build up in the region and "We should stop propping up dictators and putting band-aids on festering problems." as he says.

Another site that is keeping track of him is: http://dailypaul.com/ You guys should pop in there for a quick read and then determine if he is really the same old tired Republicans that we have had recently or if he truly has some "Direction of the Country" altering ideas as I know that he does.

http://www.house.gov/paul/legis_tst.htm His weekly Column
http://www.house.gov/paul/legis_congrec.htm His Speeches and Statements on the Record and on The House floor.
http://www.house.gov/paul/legis_press.htm His Press Releases.

I truly do encourage you guys to read and not let the main stream media tell you what to think. That is the root of most of the country's problems right there. People need to start getting informed on their own and making decisions for themselves. If Dr. Paul doesn't get the nomination (which unfortunately he probably won't) then I will be voting for a third party. Neither the Democrans nor the Republicrats are doing what they promised to do when elected and the only thing one party has to do to get elected is screw you less than the other party. Let's face it, the Democrats didn't win in November as much as the Bush led Republicans lost. The only thing that will change this is if a third party actually starts to gain some ground and threaten the two existing parties. Let's face it, the problem with only having only two parties is being forced to choose the lesser of two evils.