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Re:What is the Timeline for global warming?
Guys in BC are reporting a LOT of rain.
Trees budding already.
No doubt there is a lot of changes going on all over the place.
From where I sit, things are just not right at all.
If Alberta does not get a sustained snow/rain fall before spring, there is going to be water restrictions/bans and a whole lot of fire fighting going on.
The fire fighters I work for are already reporting for duty in January.
That is just crazy.
Just so you don't think I'm doing the Chicken Little dance, here is the long term forcast 9-12 months, from environment Canada:
http://www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/saisons/image_e. html?img=ccatemp_12_s_m1
http://www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/saisons/image_e. html?img=ccapcpn_12_m1_s
If things don't go back to normal, there is about to be some serious issues to contend with. -
Churchill, Canada
No discussion of polar bears is complete without mentioning Churchill, Manitoba, The Polar Bear Capital of The World. I visited at the end of October and had the chance to go out on a "Tundra Buggy" tour. It was quite exotic.. we saw 3 polar bear. There's also a guy who lives out on the tundra for a few months a year in a huge tundra buggy with satellite internet access.. He has a site: http://www.polarbearcam.com/
The buggies are amazing.. probably about 4-5 feet off the ground, HUGE tires, furnace inside to keep warm.. we ate dinner on board as well, with the bears just outside. Our tour guide was VERY professional and knowledgeable, we were quite impressed. It turned out he had also lived in Africa for many years and given tours there, etc etc..
Here's some fun facts about polar bear off the top of my head:
Their skin is actually black to absorb the sunlight (it's amazing how well adapted they are). The fur is really transparent but looks white in the same way a cloud looks white because of all of the water droplets.
They have suction cups on their paws to keep from slipping on the ice.
Churchill has had, I believe, only 2 or 3 fatalities in the past 30 years. One was a few weeks before I got there as a drunk wandered out of the town limits.
They are very careful about bear up there, for obvious reasons. Every night they fire off shotguns to keep the bears away. People living on the outskirts of town always have rifles in their houses just in case - they also put out traps.. basically boards with nails going through them.. to keep the bears away.
If a bear comes into town they will stun it and carry it away with a helicopter! We actually saw this happening! They move it further north IIRC... but if the bear comes back 2 more times, they put it into the "polar bear jail" which is in town (no tourists allowed sadly). They only water the bear in the jail, and do not feed it, otherwise the bear may view it as a rewarding experience.
I was surprised how nice everything was up there.. beautifully decorated hotels, at least on the insides. Food is expensive though and their economy is pretty much dependent on the bears, although they do export grain to Europe. The train takes 2 days from Winnipeg and is quite a slow ride, sometimes traveling at only 10 miles per hour. (They run 2 engines just in case one breaks down.)
I remember lots more about the bears and Churchill if anyone is interested.. just ask!
Oh - there was far less ice compared to previous years when I was up there. Everyone I asked said they weren't sure if it was global warming or just a temporary cycle. You can check the sea ice information for the Hudson Bay at the Canadian Ice Service site. -
Re:Thank you, Bush.
The USA has by far the largest emission of greenhouse gases in the world (yes, that is per person). One might think they might start reconsidering, but to the contrary.
Greenpeace should be asking instead "Why is Canada here?"
The most recent GHG inventories show that, during 1990-2003, Canada has increased its total GHG emissions by 24 percent.
Over the same period, the US increased its total GHG emissions by 13 percent.
In fact, during 2000-2003, the US actually decreased GHG emissions by 0.8 percent! During this time Canada increased its emissions by 2.9 percent.
Neither the US nor Canada has a chance in hell of meeting their Kyoto targets. But at last the US is vaguely moving in the right direction, even if only by accident! -
Re:Ummm, yeah.but is there anyone that can top all three?
Ottawa, Ontario can probably beat that. Record low: -32.9 F (-36.1 C), high: 100.0 F (37.8 C), and snowfall: 16.0 inches(40.6 cm). Average yearly snowfall is 87.2 inches (7.3 feet).
Note that these are not exactly very unusual values. It is regularly below -30 C in winter, mid-30 C in summer, and heavy snowfall. I might also add that the humidity is very very high, so the humidex (feels like) is mid-40's in the summer. So the only one not beat is the maximum daily snowfall by a few inches, but temps and average snowfall are worse.
For storms, how about this one:
On January 4, 1998 the first drops of freezing rain started to fall in Eastern Canada. Ten centimetres of freezing rain fell in less than a week, destroying trees, grounding airplanes, and leaving over a million people without electricity. Check out the links below for more about the event.
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Re:Mars Dust Bad!I'm thinking that this may be an interesting opportunity to see a Mars dust storm (and what it does) from the inside. It may have an impact on the rovers' ability to run around on the surface, but it may also make some entirely new science possible.
It may even be possible to track the wind speeds of the storm if two closely spaced images are lucky ehough to track a recognizable object moving across the line of sight.
In the meantime, the dust storms don't make any real difference to my personal view, because I live in Vancouver which is almost permanently clouded over at this time of year.
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Re:Doom and Gloom
For example, the Mount Pinatubo eruption
lowered the temperature by the addition of aerosols (dust and sulfuric gasses), which mostly leave the atmosphere over the next several years. CO2 does not (there is sequestering, but it's a slow process). CFCs do not (half-lives often over a hundred years). Methane does not, although it is one of the shorter lived greenhouse gasses (12 years) and some of our actions have added new permanent influxes (for example, dambuilding). Etc. Mt. Pinatubo actually helped validate models of global warming
There is nothing unique in time scale or magnitude
Yes, there distinctly is.
The little climatic optimum ... the little ice age
Was nothing compared to recent temperature change; check the graphs. Some conservative sites distort the issue by citing temperature changes *In Europe* during this period, not global temperatures. If you want to talk *regional* climate change, be my guest - compare Europe's little ice age change to the modern Arctic climate change.
lasting about 1000 years on average
Completely false (unless you're, for some reason, talking about small-fraction-of-a-degree changes, as opposed to real ice ages). Again, look at the graphs; I can't stress enough that you review the data again, because you're wrong about what it says.
The pre-holocene glacial period had prpbably some of the most rapid climate changes in history, yet they still took a 650-3000 years to accomplish what we've done in a two hundred, and what we will repeat in 50 or less. -
Same here in Canada
Because weather.gov is so good and ad free, people prefer to use it.
Same here in Canada. The govermental weather site is the most visited website of Canada (about 18 millions hits per day IIRC). http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/
For-profit organizations try to offer value-added products, but it's crippled with ads. And what many clients do not know, they (example http://meteomedia.com/) basicly simply repackage and reinterpret the data the government sells them (I work for the Canadian Meteorological Centre :-). -
A dud?
Well, I played with it for five minutes and couldn't see much use. It wouldn't let me fine tune the news feed to suit my needs, or at least not in an obvious way, and didn't display the accompanying pictures from news stories.
For whatever reason it won't display the weather for my location (Hamilton ON). I don't particularly like the way it displays my g-mail info, and would like to change the arrangement and width of the blocks.
All in all this one actually looks like a beta - dull, uninspired, and not fully realized. -
Re:Not in Australia
The only difference between northern climates and australia is that the southern hemisphere has a lower ozone density http://www.webwombat.com.au/careers_ed/education/
o zone.htm
Hmm? That web page makes no such claim.
The claim might be true, but things are complicated. See here for recent measurements and here for what it was like in January.
I suspect the actual cause of the high skin cancer rate is really a combination of all of the factors: population that is mostly northern European, not adapted to the sun; low latitudes; higher insolation in the summer due to perihelion; low ozone levels; nice weather; nice beaches. They just seem to have lucked out in all the categories. -
Re:Not in Australia
The only difference between northern climates and australia is that the southern hemisphere has a lower ozone density http://www.webwombat.com.au/careers_ed/education/
o zone.htm
Hmm? That web page makes no such claim.
The claim might be true, but things are complicated. See here for recent measurements and here for what it was like in January.
I suspect the actual cause of the high skin cancer rate is really a combination of all of the factors: population that is mostly northern European, not adapted to the sun; low latitudes; higher insolation in the summer due to perihelion; low ozone levels; nice weather; nice beaches. They just seem to have lucked out in all the categories. -
Re:Yes, climate will change...It's rather unfair to assume that the only people who think that the environment is not in immediate and grave danger due to pollution anthropogenic erosion are those who have a vested and short-sighted economic interest in keeping the environment unregulated. What about people who think, Even if there is a danger, we're probably going about it the wrong way? Or the people who think, I don't mind being environmentally friendly and in fact I recommend it to all my friends, but that doesn't give the government the right to force anyone into it? Not everyone who disagrees has a sinister self-serving agenda.
1. Evidence will certainly appear exaggerated when you see projections which (although I am not a meteorologist) feature predictions that do not at first appear mathematically sound. It's difficult to seem unbiased with cases like journals suppressing dissenting opinion on global warming. It's hard to present yourself as even-minded when you attract support for your cause with slogans like "save the planet."
The IPCC does an outstanding job of researching it, but too few listen to reason and most of the rest content themselves with predicting the end of the world based on incomplete data, and demand that actions be taken which are likely to be either ineffective or excessively costly.
2. There are scientifically literate people on both sides of the equation. The Cooler Heads Coalition, while hardly unbiased, demonstrates that in its selection of articles.
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Re:seems sort of a waste
Yes, turbo diesel cars get incredible mileage, but the particulate emissions -- despite dramatic improvements over the past decade -- still fall near the bottom of the heap.
So, if you want to improve your mileage to save a couple of hundred dollars a year and/or to reduce dependance on foreign oil, a diesel is definitely the car for you.
On the other hand, if you're concerned about that grey haze hanging low in the sky that you notice every morning driving to work and wonder about what it's doing to your lungs, the current batch of gasoline hybrids make a ton more sense.
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Re:What about the weather?
Canadian readers can check out Environment Canada's Weather Office. Much better than the Canadian Weather Channel's web site with no ads, and lots of info.
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Honest questionOkay, I'm not a physicist.
So as I understand it, what we have been calling human caused global warming is the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere since the industrial revolution. This says that that increase has been from about 260ppm to 370ppm now; which is noticable and believable to me. So what I want to know is are we talking about those 370ppm molecules reflecting radiant energy back towards the surface of the earth?
By my math, that's 0.000259 % of the atmosphere doing that and now we've got 0.00036% of the atmosphere doing that. that 0.0001% more radiant energy is the concern? Which causes more water to vaporize which is more powerful greenhouse gas, yadda yadda yadda. But is that the core of the issue? We're getting 0.0001% more heat reflected back at us from the atmosphere? How much more energy does the sun send to us when there are big solar flares?
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Re:Americans are different
From this FAQ:
B.4 Don't volcanoes naturally release far more CO2 into the atmosphere each year than humans?
Response: No. On a global scale, volcanoes release less than 1% of human emissions of carbon dioxide and hence are a minor contributor to changes in its atmospheric concentrations. Furthermore, emissions from volcanoes have always been part of the natural cycle, which has been in approximate balance for many millennia, until the industrial revolution.
Explanation: Most recent estimates by volcanic experts with the U.S. Geological Survey suggest that, globally, volcanoes release about 150 million tonnes (Mt) of CO2 into the atmosphere each year. By comparison, humans annually emit more than 22 billion tonnes (Gt) of CO2 from fossil fuel combustion alone, and another 6 or so Gt of CO2 from deforestation activities. That is more than 100 times as great as volcanic emissions.
Mount Etna, in Sicily, is the largest single volcanic emitter of CO2, estimated at 25 Mt of CO2 per year. By comparison, emissions from Mount St. Helens following its eruption several decades ago were less than 2 Mt of CO2/year.
Reference: Gerlach 1991.
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Pre-emptive climate change faq
Frequently asked questions about the science of climate change
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Re:Let the Bush bashing begin!
Still, remember the ring of fire that surrounds our oceans. That is many many active volcanoes erupting every day in the world. So much volcanic activity every day, it can be seen from space and some would say, it looks like a "Ring of fire", hence the name... How much greenhouse gasses are released every day by volcanic activity? activity that man has no control of.
Bugger all.
B.4 Don't volcanoes naturally release far more CO2 into the atmosphere each year than humans?
Response: No. On a global scale, volcanoes release less than 1% of human emissions of carbon dioxide and hence are a minor contributor to changes in its atmospheric concentrations. Furthermore, emissions from volcanoes have always been part of the natural cycle, which has been in approximate balance for many millennia, until the industrial revolution. MSC Canada
As I said before, I've no idea where the myth came from that volcanoes are a primary contributor to greenhouse gasses. It simply isn't true. I'm sure certain people wish it were true, and that explains why they keep repeating the myth, but it is NOT TRUE.
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Just a second
the past week the daytime highs here in Ottawa Canada were -20 deg. Celsius. Normals for this period, according to Environment Canada http://weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/city/pages/on-118_m
e tric_e.html, are daytime highs of -5 deg. Celsius. If the tempurature is going to be raised at most 11 deg. IT WILL STILL BE #$%*#$ COLD HERE!!!! -
CanadaCanada tends to be more open and ever so slightly less wasteful with our money.
For example, Environment Canada has tons of information available, including:- Current conditions
- "EnviroZine" (Environment Canada's online magazine, with past issues)
- Media releases archive
- Educational crap
- More resources for teachers
- Sea ice conditions
- Laws and acts regarding meteorology
- Climate history (but unavailable on the weekend)
- Water data archive
- City records
- Many more archives!
Please note that most of the time the above linked pages state "CDROM", there is a link near to an ISO! (e.g. the line For those with a high speed Internet connection a HYDAT CD-ROM image (105MB ZIP) is available for download.")
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CanadaCanada tends to be more open and ever so slightly less wasteful with our money.
For example, Environment Canada has tons of information available, including:- Current conditions
- "EnviroZine" (Environment Canada's online magazine, with past issues)
- Media releases archive
- Educational crap
- More resources for teachers
- Sea ice conditions
- Laws and acts regarding meteorology
- Climate history (but unavailable on the weekend)
- Water data archive
- City records
- Many more archives!
Please note that most of the time the above linked pages state "CDROM", there is a link near to an ISO! (e.g. the line For those with a high speed Internet connection a HYDAT CD-ROM image (105MB ZIP) is available for download.")
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CanadaCanada tends to be more open and ever so slightly less wasteful with our money.
For example, Environment Canada has tons of information available, including:- Current conditions
- "EnviroZine" (Environment Canada's online magazine, with past issues)
- Media releases archive
- Educational crap
- More resources for teachers
- Sea ice conditions
- Laws and acts regarding meteorology
- Climate history (but unavailable on the weekend)
- Water data archive
- City records
- Many more archives!
Please note that most of the time the above linked pages state "CDROM", there is a link near to an ISO! (e.g. the line For those with a high speed Internet connection a HYDAT CD-ROM image (105MB ZIP) is available for download.")
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CanadaCanada tends to be more open and ever so slightly less wasteful with our money.
For example, Environment Canada has tons of information available, including:- Current conditions
- "EnviroZine" (Environment Canada's online magazine, with past issues)
- Media releases archive
- Educational crap
- More resources for teachers
- Sea ice conditions
- Laws and acts regarding meteorology
- Climate history (but unavailable on the weekend)
- Water data archive
- City records
- Many more archives!
Please note that most of the time the above linked pages state "CDROM", there is a link near to an ISO! (e.g. the line For those with a high speed Internet connection a HYDAT CD-ROM image (105MB ZIP) is available for download.")
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CanadaCanada tends to be more open and ever so slightly less wasteful with our money.
For example, Environment Canada has tons of information available, including:- Current conditions
- "EnviroZine" (Environment Canada's online magazine, with past issues)
- Media releases archive
- Educational crap
- More resources for teachers
- Sea ice conditions
- Laws and acts regarding meteorology
- Climate history (but unavailable on the weekend)
- Water data archive
- City records
- Many more archives!
Please note that most of the time the above linked pages state "CDROM", there is a link near to an ISO! (e.g. the line For those with a high speed Internet connection a HYDAT CD-ROM image (105MB ZIP) is available for download.")
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CanadaCanada tends to be more open and ever so slightly less wasteful with our money.
For example, Environment Canada has tons of information available, including:- Current conditions
- "EnviroZine" (Environment Canada's online magazine, with past issues)
- Media releases archive
- Educational crap
- More resources for teachers
- Sea ice conditions
- Laws and acts regarding meteorology
- Climate history (but unavailable on the weekend)
- Water data archive
- City records
- Many more archives!
Please note that most of the time the above linked pages state "CDROM", there is a link near to an ISO! (e.g. the line For those with a high speed Internet connection a HYDAT CD-ROM image (105MB ZIP) is available for download.")
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CanadaCanada tends to be more open and ever so slightly less wasteful with our money.
For example, Environment Canada has tons of information available, including:- Current conditions
- "EnviroZine" (Environment Canada's online magazine, with past issues)
- Media releases archive
- Educational crap
- More resources for teachers
- Sea ice conditions
- Laws and acts regarding meteorology
- Climate history (but unavailable on the weekend)
- Water data archive
- City records
- Many more archives!
Please note that most of the time the above linked pages state "CDROM", there is a link near to an ISO! (e.g. the line For those with a high speed Internet connection a HYDAT CD-ROM image (105MB ZIP) is available for download.")
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CanadaCanada tends to be more open and ever so slightly less wasteful with our money.
For example, Environment Canada has tons of information available, including:- Current conditions
- "EnviroZine" (Environment Canada's online magazine, with past issues)
- Media releases archive
- Educational crap
- More resources for teachers
- Sea ice conditions
- Laws and acts regarding meteorology
- Climate history (but unavailable on the weekend)
- Water data archive
- City records
- Many more archives!
Please note that most of the time the above linked pages state "CDROM", there is a link near to an ISO! (e.g. the line For those with a high speed Internet connection a HYDAT CD-ROM image (105MB ZIP) is available for download.")
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CanadaCanada tends to be more open and ever so slightly less wasteful with our money.
For example, Environment Canada has tons of information available, including:- Current conditions
- "EnviroZine" (Environment Canada's online magazine, with past issues)
- Media releases archive
- Educational crap
- More resources for teachers
- Sea ice conditions
- Laws and acts regarding meteorology
- Climate history (but unavailable on the weekend)
- Water data archive
- City records
- Many more archives!
Please note that most of the time the above linked pages state "CDROM", there is a link near to an ISO! (e.g. the line For those with a high speed Internet connection a HYDAT CD-ROM image (105MB ZIP) is available for download.")
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CanadaCanada tends to be more open and ever so slightly less wasteful with our money.
For example, Environment Canada has tons of information available, including:- Current conditions
- "EnviroZine" (Environment Canada's online magazine, with past issues)
- Media releases archive
- Educational crap
- More resources for teachers
- Sea ice conditions
- Laws and acts regarding meteorology
- Climate history (but unavailable on the weekend)
- Water data archive
- City records
- Many more archives!
Please note that most of the time the above linked pages state "CDROM", there is a link near to an ISO! (e.g. the line For those with a high speed Internet connection a HYDAT CD-ROM image (105MB ZIP) is available for download.")
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CanadaCanada tends to be more open and ever so slightly less wasteful with our money.
For example, Environment Canada has tons of information available, including:- Current conditions
- "EnviroZine" (Environment Canada's online magazine, with past issues)
- Media releases archive
- Educational crap
- More resources for teachers
- Sea ice conditions
- Laws and acts regarding meteorology
- Climate history (but unavailable on the weekend)
- Water data archive
- City records
- Many more archives!
Please note that most of the time the above linked pages state "CDROM", there is a link near to an ISO! (e.g. the line For those with a high speed Internet connection a HYDAT CD-ROM image (105MB ZIP) is available for download.")
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CanadaCanada tends to be more open and ever so slightly less wasteful with our money.
For example, Environment Canada has tons of information available, including:- Current conditions
- "EnviroZine" (Environment Canada's online magazine, with past issues)
- Media releases archive
- Educational crap
- More resources for teachers
- Sea ice conditions
- Laws and acts regarding meteorology
- Climate history (but unavailable on the weekend)
- Water data archive
- City records
- Many more archives!
Please note that most of the time the above linked pages state "CDROM", there is a link near to an ISO! (e.g. the line For those with a high speed Internet connection a HYDAT CD-ROM image (105MB ZIP) is available for download.")
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CanadaCanada tends to be more open and ever so slightly less wasteful with our money.
For example, Environment Canada has tons of information available, including:- Current conditions
- "EnviroZine" (Environment Canada's online magazine, with past issues)
- Media releases archive
- Educational crap
- More resources for teachers
- Sea ice conditions
- Laws and acts regarding meteorology
- Climate history (but unavailable on the weekend)
- Water data archive
- City records
- Many more archives!
Please note that most of the time the above linked pages state "CDROM", there is a link near to an ISO! (e.g. the line For those with a high speed Internet connection a HYDAT CD-ROM image (105MB ZIP) is available for download.")
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Re:Thirty Years Ago - Newsweek Article
First of all, data shows that the average temperature of the Earth is unequivocably increasing, anyone who calls it global cooling is going to have a hard time proving that trend.
If you're curious about the "global cooling" supposition in the 70's, then you should know that this was a theoretical proposal, not really proven. For instance, in the 70's they considered only water and CO2 as greenhouse gases (knowing they warm the planet). Their concern about cooling was mainly particulate pollution (aerosols) blocking out sunlight. Now methane (which effects climate far more than CO2, though there is obviously less of it) and other gases are included, and it has been shown that, basically, the effects of current particulate matter do not outweigh the effects of current greenhouse gas emmissions. In fact, the destruction of ozone contributes to cooling, and since the banning of CFC's and the slow adjustment of the ozone layer back to previous levels, this additional cooling effect is wearing off, and the underlying trend revealed is still warming.
Furthermore, it goes without saying that climate modeling has vastly improved because of computing capability.
More about 60's and 70's cooling (in section C): FAQ -
"Climate change" is.
That'd be "climate change" changing the wind patterns.
"Global warming" doesn't "produce increased precipitation".
Regional climate is effected by the amount of energy in the atmospheric (and oceanic) systems. Currently scientists affirm that there is an increased amount of energy, retained via the greenhouse effect, in the global climate system. This increase in the amount of energy in the climate system can effect different climates in different ways, including more or less average precipitation, higher or lower temperatures, etc.
Climate change FAQ -
Think macro, not micro please
People tend to view weather accuracy on a micro scale, but meteorologists can only work on a macro scale. If you look at satellite images from Canada's weather service, you can see that the city you live in is less than 1/20th the size of a pin-prick relative to a weather system.
When a weather report going out 24 hours into the future says it will rain, it WILL rain... just not perhaps overtop of your little pin-prick. Considering the complexity of weather, realistically how effective can we expect a 3-day outlook to be?
All I'm saying is think big, and you'll realize that meteorology is an inexact science, but is so very valuable as a critical service. Nobody will ever be able to 'stick their head out the window' and have a hope of predicting anything. Meteorologic science deserves a hell of alot more credit than the farmer's almanac. -
Think macro, not micro please
People tend to view weather accuracy on a micro scale, but meteorologists can only work on a macro scale. If you look at satellite images from Canada's weather service, you can see that the city you live in is less than 1/20th the size of a pin-prick relative to a weather system.
When a weather report going out 24 hours into the future says it will rain, it WILL rain... just not perhaps overtop of your little pin-prick. Considering the complexity of weather, realistically how effective can we expect a 3-day outlook to be?
All I'm saying is think big, and you'll realize that meteorology is an inexact science, but is so very valuable as a critical service. Nobody will ever be able to 'stick their head out the window' and have a hope of predicting anything. Meteorologic science deserves a hell of alot more credit than the farmer's almanac. -
Re:Volcanic emissions compared to human outputCO2: Neglectable
B.4 Don't volcanoes naturally release far more CO2 into the atmosphere each year than humans?
Response: No. On a global scale, volcanoes release less than 1% of human emissions of carbon dioxide and hence are a minor contributor to changes in its atmospheric concentrations. Furthermore, emissions from volcanoes have always been part of the natural cycle, [...].
Or other concrete numbers e.g. SO2 : 79 Tg/a human-caused, 24 Tg/a due to natural processes, including volcanoes.
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Re:Global warming may actually make Norway colderIf the world warms up, the gulf stream disappears (or shifts), and Norway gets colder.
The Gulf Stream is already shifting. Now for a bit of trivia, Did you know that the Gulf Stream delivers the same amount of heat to the British isles in winter as does the sun?
If the Gulf Stream is gone, Norway and most of northern Europe will enjoy the good weather of Iqualuit, Nunavut, Canada. They are at about the same laditude.
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Re:Zooming
Even if the liquid is stable and inert from -10C to +40C
Your temperature range is too narrow. It was -24C this morning here in Winnipeg, and it hasn't gotten real cold yet.
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Canadian equivalent
In Canada, this site appears to be the equivalent to the NOAA site. I browsed around a bit and it says the data is available, but the site is not responding right now so I am unable to see what kind of format it is provided in.
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Natural Gas and the Vacuum Cleaner Effect
Slashdotters,
One thing that we all have to understand is that our supply of natural gas is dwindling. You see in the 1980s there was a large push for de-regulating the electricity industry. This caused (among other favorable economics)independant power producers to build lots and lots of natural gas fired gas turbine combined cycle plants (60-70% efficiency). These plants thrived because natural gas prices were low and electricity prices were high. Hence the Vacuum cleaner effect. These plants consume tonnes of natural gas and the natural gas industry was very happy. Now the problem is that the natural gas industry is having a hard time finding more supplies of gas, resulting in an increase in gas prices. Raising gas prices also affects electricity prices. In the US right now, peak electricity prices can reach up to 60 cents a kWh. That is huge compared to Quebec electricty (mostly hydro dam plants) costing 4 cents a kWh!!!
With respect to the ZEPPs, we don't know need more natural gas plants. This ZEPP is just a glorified gas turbine combined cycle plant(GTCC). Besides, GTCC plants have 3 times less greenhouse gas emissions than coal and 2 times less than oil fired plants. Plus gas has little NOx emissions if burned completely. So they are pretty good compared to other fossil plants.
What we need is to change these GTCC plants and make them more efficient. We also need to reduce our demand. It is going to happen anyway, unless people like paying arms and legs for energy. Our supply is on the brink of depletion. We need to conserve, not build up.
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Re:runaway warming trend?
It's not about individual summers being nice/stormy, or winters being mild/harsh: it might take years to be able to decipher the impact of climate change on an area. There's widespread theory that this bout of climate change will produce more variable weather, which means that taking any single summer or winter as supportin or contrary evidence isn't very valuable. (Note that the increased variability theory doesn't have enough data yet to be clearly demonstrated, at least according to http://www.ec.gc.ca/TKEI/cc_weather/cc_weather_e.
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Re:It's sadWell there's also the City of Toronto Web Site, whose fact sheets estimates hundreds. Or you could look at Environment Canada.
I must apologize -- I forgot Slashdot was peer reviewed
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Diesel? Depends on your goals.You have to consider motivation, too.
Yes, turbo diesel cars get incredible mileage, but the particulate emissions -- despite dramatic improvements over the past decade -- still fall near the bottom of the heap.
So, if you want to improve your mileage to save a couple of hundred dollars a year and/or to reduce dependance on foreign oil, a diesel is definitely the car for you.
On the other hand, if you're concerned about that grey haze hanging low in the sky that you notice every morning driving to work and wonder about what it's doing to your lungs, you might want to consider other technologies.
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Re:Argument over data format, not availability
I see your point and agree with most of it, but...
GRIB and METAR are not "obscure". They are well-documented international industry standards that serve their intended purpose quite well. Is a tar file "obscure"?
GRIB data was designed as a means to store and exchange weather model output data in its (almost) rawest form. Because it is in binary form, it is only natural that it needs to be post-processed to be visualized or used in other applications.
For those who might be interested : a description of the GRIB format. -
Canadian Climate Data
I remember scheming and dreaming a project once upon a time and trying to look for a database that contained various dates and the weather data conditions for that day.
Found a free archive on Environment Canada that does just that for all of Canada. -
Re:I'll let you in on a secret.
The secret is:
We don't all actually live in igloos. We just tell you we do to see if you'll believe it.
We shouldn't lie to our southern friends - we know what they do to countries that piss them off.
We really do live in igloos or ice castles most of the year. Just take a look at our weather here in Montreal
See
... the HIGH today will be 20 degrees. (Oh, that "C" after the temperature stands for either "Canada" or "Calice, c'est froid en tabernac!" depending on whether you're a federalist or a speeratist)It rarely gets above 32 degrees anywhere in the country
...It's so cold up here that the preview button is permanently frozen
... that's why you see us posting mis-spellings like "theatre", "colour", "neighbour" all the time. -
Re:Excercise? Ooops, bad word. Sorry.Weather: Walking in general is not fun in the snow. Getting takeout food is a pain in this situation, and I don't really have much option since I didn't buy groceries (see above).
Get used to it. Seriously, your body will adapt. Ever notice how the first warm spring day will see people out in t-shirts and shorts but the same temperature day in the fall will see people in coats? We notice the change, get used to it and then notice the change happening the other way.
I've been pedestrian/public transit all my life (never owned a car). Lots of folks I know are the same. Dress appropriately and take private pride in the fact that a chilly day is nothing you (the Mighty Pedestrian!) can't handle.
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Re:Awesome.I think I know what country I'll go to college in now.
You're an American? A Canadian university ("college" tends to refer to smaller schools up here) is a good choice. Not too far from home, similar culture (on the surface), population friendly to Americans (really! we like you as individuals).
The real benefit kicks in after you've been up here for half a year. I've talked to many Americans who have done this and they all say how getting "outside" opened their eyes to how the rest of the world sees the world. But that takes time, it's not something you can pick up with just a vacation.
But there is the small matter of the climate...
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NASA TV Programming - The Information Age, not yet
I think I know what they did with the apes that came back from the early spaceflights.
They put them in charge of NASA TV programming.
I mean, J.H.C, when the "big spacewalk" was happening a week or two ago I tuned into NASA TV, and what did I get to watch?
**NOTHING**
Well, not quite nothing, a grainy image of the command center with an even grainer occasional camera view of a bigscreen projection of their track, which was 100 times worse than simply going to J-Track. Do you seriously mean to tell me that NASA controllers did not have a video feed of or from their own astronauts outside the station, and that all they had was nearly unintelligable acryonym laced audio? Or is it that they simply can't afford a $5 video splitter?
( During the hubble repairs a few years ago at one point they showed nothing but a video feed of an inanimate obscure connector between the shuttle and the telescope. Apparently the shuttle didn't have enough downlink bandwidth, and they needed them all for the job at hand. )
In any case if NASA and the administrationis so concerned about public image and if they really want people to get enthused about spaceflight, how about simply spending an extra $5000 for a single extra camera on the station to provide a view of the interesting things going on?
Throw in another camera to give us a LIVE view of the earth on another channel - 24/7. How many of you wouldn't LOVE to see a 400 mile wide live video feed from space of the earth, and follow it along with J-Track, a recent GOES image, and your atlas / globe, dynamic topographic and/or terraserver reference feed?
Isn't this supposed to be the information age?
Can you imagine how utterly amazing it would be for science teachers to be able to plan a science/geography class around an hour of that each couple weeks with a few groups of kids around 5 PCs all watching the different feeds and trying to match them to the live feed? Add in a few kids using google groups and google news to provide live socio/political/weather commentary, etc etc. -
Re:The best of both worlds
It is -17C (1F) in Thunder Bay at this moment. Predicted low: -22.