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nothing new, edonkey2000 has been doing this for months now.

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BitTorrent allows users to download a file from multiple different people. Instead of everyone nailing one server, users get the file from other users.

eDonkey does one better. Even if you only have parts of the file downloaded, you can immediately send parts of the file you do have to other users. And eDonkey has had a pretty good track record. I thought everyone and their mother knows about this, so why was this a Slashdot headline, especially when it's pretentious and untruthful?

Peer broadcasting is hardly something to write /. about, I'd say.

First image is ready to go. Grab an eDonkey client for your favorite platform and start leeching.
Mandrake82-cd1-inst.i586.iso

I'll be sharing it on eDonkey as soon as I can download it. I searched a few minutes ago and it doesn't look like anybody is sharing it yet. I'll post the links as a response to this post if anybody is interested. If you don't know about the donk, check out at edonkey2000.com

bnetd-0.4.25.tar.gz

BNS-src.zip

FAQ.htm

bnetd-0.4.25.tar.gz

BNS-src.zip

FAQ.htm

eDonkey2000 is only for Windows though.

In case you are looking for episodes of tv shows, then check out edonkey available here. I have been using edonkey for a few months now, and i have always found more stuff on edonkey than on any other network (kazaa/morpheus included). Also there are a few sites on the net which give out edonkey links which u can use to download verified files! There is a linux client available. Check out www.sharereactor.com for a guide on using edonkey along with lots of links!!

edonkey 2000 has never been mentionned. it's not open source, it's not GPL, most of eDonkey's users run under Windows, but it works well (P2P, search engine & download engine are separated, file segmentation and multisource downloads). How many /. readers knows/uses it? Are there too much security holes?

EDonkey will do that. I've had good luck with it. It's kinda KaZZa mixed with Hotline.

I wish people would serve up linux distros that way so when new releases come out people can collectively share bandwidth to get them. edonk forces you to share whatever you are downloading in 8 megabyte chunks with a known md5 hash from the origina and they have a linux client as well with an easy to use cli or if you want gui interface.

Your thinking of something else... KaZaa has a curses based ui.

I guess I was thinking of eDonkey and Freenet.

Thats exactly how eDonkey2000 works!

While your downloading a file, it's immediately made available for upload from you. It uses resume download to download parts of the file you want from multiple sources, some of which don't have all of the file yet too.

Great!

This means I'll be able to download the shows real soon now on Morpheus, Gnutella or EDonky2000!

What I see more as a problem in p2p is people who only share the folder created by their client, so that there is only "nonoriginal" stuff in it, files that can already be found elsewhere on the network.

eDonkey proves that even those who do not share original content can be quite valuable to a p2p network, especially when the files being shared are hundreds of megabytes, and not little four megabyte MP3 files. The more people on the network who have the file, the faster your downloads are. Seems like enough to me...

-Nathan

eDonkey uses a "punishment" method in it's peer to peer networking scheme. Basically, until you're sharing at least 10k/s, you're limited to 4 times your upload speed for downloads... Yes, that means if you're sharing at 0k/s, you can receive at 0k/s. Also, it shares partial files, so, for what it's worth, you are almost always sharing at least a part of a file...

It works really well in small groups (reference DAPCentral ), and from what I can tell, it really makes interpersonal cooperation a lot easier than, say, Morpheus...

Of course, it'll never be as popular because it's not a single central server... That and it's got a linux interface, and we all know that anything that gets on linux dies the next week (as a hax0r tool)...

Hasta luego,
/Ex

ISPs imposing rules on there customers, is only
effective when there is no competition. The
barriers to running an ISP aren't very big. Ones
that block popular services will some lose
customers to ones that don't.

And way are you talking about ftp servers, the
articles was mentioning much easier to use and
more modern peer to peer systems.

Its a lot more difficult to detect copyright
violating file transfers, when the data is all
encrypted as in freenet,
or when different chunks of the file come from
different users as in E-donkey.

In fact edonkey available at www.edonkey2000.com also has a few anti freeloading features. One of them is that it divides any file that you download into chunks. As and when you hav a complete chunk, it is automatically shared. This is one really good feature, with a few surprizes. This spreads the files faster on the network, and anyone who is downloading the file automatically becomes a distribution point for that file till it is completely downloaded. Another neat feature that i really like in edonkey is that if u put limits on the upload speed, then depending on the speed your download speed is also limited. This is one feature that i really like. And these 2 features combined makes the edonkey network really good for large files.

If you don't already have Edonkey its got linux clients as well. :)

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the donkey which uses MFTP similar to GetRight.

Its an edonkey link if you have it, it runs on Linux as well.

Aggragate geek bandwidth damnit :)

Hey, for all of you guys who love the old MST3k episodes that *AREN'T* getting released: MST3k-DAP Also, on the zirc network in #dapcentral, and on edonkey2000, at, well, just check the above URL for that information.. Hasta luego, Exantrius

eDonkey 2000 would be a better choice for this type of distribution since it has a Linux client. In fact, I like your idea so much that I'm going to share my Mandrake 8.1 ISO images on eDonkey right now. Thanks.

I pity all the folks who are unaware of the wonders that 2000 edonkey's can provide when it comes to large media files. :)

All four vids have been available in standard mpeg, and DivX, for quite a while... and I see that only the first three vids are available on Toonami's site, and in Crap-Quality.

The Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger vid was interesting: The band members are manufactured "Ghost-in-the-shell-style", then get their memory scanned in. The End.

Can anyone tell me what they're up to in the 'real' ones? I want to start watching those but I don't know where exactly they're at (Season 3 somewhere?)

Latest ep shown is 3.18 "Fractures". Final four episodes of the season coming in 2002.

Cheapest Farscape DVD's are to my knowledge at Black Star.

For the monetarilly challenged, eps can most easily be DL-ed via eDonkey2000 or IRC - channel #farscape-central on DALnet.

Yan

This is definitely a job for Swarmcsat. It avoids most of the problems people have identified, although extensive firewalling can still undermine it.

Alternatively, Gnutella or eDonkey like programs can be used.

By using random ports. Try edonk.

Linux client is here (lameness filter on the actual file) php frontend phpdonkey also here.

Yes, there is. It's in early alpha stages, but it works for me. The GUI is used to control the commandline client, which is included in the download as well. Unfortunately neither the commandline client nor the GUI are open source.

You can download it from http://www.edonkey2000.com.

The MST3K Digital Archive Project. They share most of their stuff over eDonkey and IRC.

They only share episodes which haven't yet been released on video, which makes it slightly more legal. (It might even be entirely legal, since the MST3K people encouraged fans to share tapes.)

The future like it or not will not head towards server client but for the lack of a bettter term P2P. Think napster exploited the growing storage and bandwidth of the upcrop of americans? Wait till things like Edonkey2000 take hold and joe average citizen is warezing a cracked version of windows xp 2004.net.20042004 (All spyware removed enjoy).ace

argghhhhh sheeesh

I've downloaded more than 20 movies*, about a dozen full length (2 hour) episodes of Mystery Science Theater 3000+, and a smattering of Red Dwarf and Anime episodes from eDonkey. Crappy name, but it is the most effective movie-downloading tool I've used. In fact, it's so good at downloading movies that it sucks at downloading MP3s and anything smaller than a few hundred megabytes.

* They are:
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
There's Something About Mary
American Pie
Road Trip
The Cell
Memento
Pi The Movie
2001: A Space Odyssey
Snatch
Unbreakable
Traffic
Being John Malkovich
Office Space
Monty Python and the Life of Brian
Hackers 2: Operation Takedown
Mylene Farmer - Live a Bercy (Concert video)
Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
La Verite Si Je Mens
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Planet of the Apes (the original)

+ These are:
804 - The Deadly Mantis
410 - Hercules Against the Moon Men
913 - Quest of the Delta Knights
K20 - The Last Chase
103 - Mad Monster
307 - Daddy-O
903 - Puma Man
321 - Santa Claus Conquers the Martians
K14 - Mighty Jack
1010 - It Lives By Night
409 - The Indestructable Man
510 - The Painted Hills

It was certainly easier than going to the theater or even to a rental place. Hardly a Sisyphean task and certainly available to anyone with some computer knowledge and a little bandwidth. (I did this all on 1.5Mbps ADSL.)

-z129

This is great for getting pr0n , so I hear ;)

Read the report yourself because it is funny, but here is brief coverage in the Washington Post.

And for P2P pleasure...
Gnutella clients...
http://www.bearshare.com/
http://www.limewire.com/
Not based on Gnutella protocol...
http://www.aimster.com/
http://www.edonkey2000.com/
Or just go to CNET's downloads and select from many P2P flavors :)

I think we can look to Napster to learn about how the business model for music distribution works when you're working with the music industry. Napster was an important force because of it's user base when it emerged, the music industry wanted it both ways. They wanted to be part of a popular site, and they wanted the retarded level of control with their imaginary "secure" music distribution systems that they guaranteed Napster became so assy that the reason they bought it was removed.

The only model that made sense for Napster was the one that was initially discussed. The music industry allows a subscription based service which is "all you can download." Now we're stuck with some SDMI still born .NAP file scheme and bertlesmann has succeeded in creating the user bases necessary for 5 other programs to be viable.

In any case, here's some links to what I use these days:

The best Gnutella client: LimeWire
eDonkey
Audio Galaxy

Really? How can you explain the 1,000,000+ tracks from 150,000+ artists available for free on MP3.com? The reality is that most artists (the ones who don't make any money from their art) want the widest possible distribution of their music. The best way to do that is to make it available for free. But, after they find fame and are finally able to charge for their music, they want to stop contributing to the public domain. I don't have a problem with this; those first songs were just the equivalent of a "loss leader" in product marketing. They were the price of building a brand.

My proposal doesn't necessarily require an authorized member of the band to submit approval, although I initially presented it that way. It hinges on the idea that anyone can submit music for sharing. A distributed MP3.com, if you will. A large network of moderators (probably voluntary, a la Slashdot but probably with more qualifications than pure random selection) would approve songs for distribution. How about a hybrid opt-in/out: Napster could filter opt-in requests with the opt-out database it currently keeps, relaxing it to reduce the false-positives. Let the human moderators manage the false-negatives.

A simple reporting mechanism would fastrack songs to be removed. Ever surf HotOrNot.com? I don't know the mechanics, but there's a link to click if a picture is "broken, copyrighted, or inappropriate." If enough "basic" users report a song or a single moderator (or a record label or the original artist), the song gets yanked.

Napster will never develop a filter that will reliably differentiate copyrighted from noncopyrighted songs. It's as absurd as claiming I can build an OS that's uncrackable. We humans are pretty clever-- we'd figure out how to get around it in no time. Which is exactly what the record companies want-- Napster beat them to the punch with electronic distribution, and they want their piece of the pie.

Of course there are a ton more kinks to my idea. But I think the broader solution of opt-in would be more successful than their current opt-out strategy. Someone else mentioned eDonkey2000; I love their concept of "slices" (my term)-- if I'm on my broadband connection and ten people connected to the net via modem have the song I want, I can download different "slices" of the song from them simultaneously, aggregating their bandwidth. Finally, all those modem user libraries don't go to waste!

Thats something BarChord does with EDonkey distribution. When an artist uploads music, they have an option to have it automagically injected into the EDonkey 2000 p2p network. We're working on other networks as well -- but I rather like the structure of EDonkey.

start using Morpheus or edonkey2000. These networks are a little underpopulated now, but they seem to be gaining userbase. Both support the ability to download one file from many people at the same time, I've seen aggregates of 130k/s downloading from 5 different users. Steal your music just a little bit faster.