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What silent (and by silent I mean fanless) system do you have that can do 1080i?

There's a little problem with 100 million people killed by communism - total number is several orders of magnitude lower. Authors of this site were smoking crack.
The most funny thing of your post is the "orders of magnitude" thing. What do you mean by several? Three? More?
I would be laughing if the subject wasn't the memory of dead people.

In fact, the 100 million number is quite accurate actually.

You may check this site http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm you'll find the numbers of the victims of wars and despotisms all around the world during the past century.

Anyway, a real History course is highly recommended, otherwise STFU and don't play with dead people. It's sick.

Mao, Stalin and Hitler killed many tens of millions apiece, and each of them were Atheists (or close enough: Hitler admired the Roman Catholic Church and particularly the Jesuits -- he wanted to model the Reich after them; his own personal faith was not unsullied Atheism and probably included various themes from the broad swathe of views referred to at the time as Occultism, but by and large there was no monotheism in it and probably not even enough deism of any sort to disqualify him as an Atheist).

Problem solved. That'll be twenty dollars and take the yak of your choice.

Meanwhile, you also have to distinguish between various kinds of Christian and Muslim, which the brains-of-a-carrot grandparent poster didn't. A Quaker or Amish is quite a different proposition to most kinds of Catholic, for example, and news footage notwithstanding the typical Muslim, like the typical Christian or Atheist or whatever, just wants to get on with life rather than go around pissing off their neighbours. Which [caution: topic change] is what's wrong with the infamous Danish cartoons.

Yea, I said up at the start that we weren't doing the math of it, but just looking at technology. So my math is right on because we aren't using the variable which includes bodies, but hey, I can't sleep so lets look at your arguement.

"For every person with artificial limbs there's loads more people killed by the `advances` in the fighting of war."

That was true from 1860 (American Civil War) through 1975 (end of Vietnam War), but actually wars fought with higher technology have lead to fewer casualties over all and in some instances like the Great Plains Indian Wars, better weapons did not lead to higher casualties.

http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm
Second World War (1937-45): 55 000 000, then 1.8 million in Korea, 1.2 million in Vietnam, 70,000 Arab-Israeli Wars, 30-200,00 Gulf War 1991, 30-45,000 Iraq 2003-now 8-25,000 Afghanistan 2001-now

Advances in technology, like between Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom didn't lead to more deaths, it lead to fewer deaths. As systems become more capable of destroying a target with one warhead or charge there will be fewer casualties. In Vietnam and World War II a soldier was trained to just hose an area down with machine gun and automatic weapons fire, now zeroed rifles with tactical sights have replaced that tactic with controled aimed shots and bursts with rifles rather than hosing the target.

Operation Anaconda illustrates the change, in Vietnam or Desert Storm, B-52s would have carpet bombed targets, now they lay down one or two JDAMs, rather than Snake-eye bombing a bunch of caves, F-16s will use laser guilded bombs.

Check out http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm.

While I agree that the slave trade was bad, Hitler, Stalin, and Mao far outstrip it.

That page is kinda freaky.

Bullshit, bullshit, and bullshit...

As I have to keep saying: Bullshit factor too high!

Settle down, Beavis. I'm not disagreeing with your point (I think) that AMD makes competitive CPUs for "thin and light" notebooks. However, I still think your comparison (which you call "as fair as possible") is inaccurate, incomplete, and (therefore) unfair.

You didn't include any links to where you got your numbers,

A minor oversight: http://users.erols.com/chare/elec.htm

That's a nice source. I just bookmarked it. It doesn't list all of the newest CPUs, though.

overstated the Core Solo's power,

Not according to my source, which I trust to provide accurate numbers. Considering that Intel uses a different power rating standard than AMD, it's not fair to compare AMD's spec sheet with Intel's spec sheet. Intel was the one to switch to "Thermal Design Power" when AMD was still listing "Max Power Output", and now that AMD has switched to "Thermal Design Power" Intel changes once again, seemingly trying to make sure direct comparisons are never fair.

Your source apparently made a typo for Core Solo. It's an easy typo to make (37 instead of 27). For the other Intel CPUs in our comparisons, your source's "Thermal Design Power" numbers match Intel's "Thermal Guideline" numbers. I'm sure "Thermal Guideline" has the same meaning as "Thermal Design Power." I don't know why the heck Intel would change the term if it means the same thing. Maybe they think the work "guideline" is clearer than "design power." BTW, "Thermal Design Power" is defined in the "glossary of terms" for Intel's Spec Finder tool as:

The maximum amount of heat which a thermal solution must be able to dissipate from the processor so that the processor will operate under normal operating conditions.

Unfortunately, "Thermal Guideline" is not defined in the glossary (ugh). However, that definition sounds like a "guideline" to me. Your source seems to agree.

and didn't include the Celeron M

What the hell do you think "mCel-2.5G 35W" means?

(Hell) "mCel-2.5G 35W" means Mobile Celeron, a discontinued line of low-cost mobile CPUs based on desktop CPU cores (Pentium III and 4). These CPUs sucked ass and were inappropriate for "thin and light" notebooks. The model you listed is based on the Northwood P4 core, but was "crippled" by halving the L2 cache (down to 256K) and lowering the bus to 400MHz.

"Celeron M" means Celeron M, the current line of low-cost mobile CPUs based on the Pentium M core. These CPUs kick ass and are hardly "crippled" by its halved cache (1MB) and reduced bus (400MHz). Even without SpeedStep, the Celeron M is a high-performing, low-power, and cool CPU that's good for "thin and light" notebooks.

You also neglected to include the low power versions of the Intel CPUs.

That's because the "low power versions" are so vastly slower that it would be completely unfair to throw them in this comparison... Obviously, being incredibly unfair doesn't phase you.

I included LV versions and "lower power" versions of Pentium M and Celeron M for two reasons: (1) AMD apparently doesn't make true "low voltage" (LV) versions, and (2) you included a "lower power" version of T

Your comparison is unfair, inaccurate, and incomplete.

You didn't include any links to where you got your numbers,

overstated the Core Solo's power,

and didn't include the Celeron M

What the hell do you think "mCel-2.5G 35W" means?

You also neglected to include the low power versions of the Intel CPUs.

That's because the "low power versions" are so vastly slower that it would be completely unfair to throw them in this comparison... Obviously, being incredibly unfair doesn't phase you.

Celeron M LV 383 (1.00GHz) 5.5W
        * Celeron M 360 (1.4GHz) 21W
        * Celeron M 390 (1.7GHz) 27W
        * Pentium M LV 778 (1.6GHz) 10W

All of which are so much slower than the 2+GHz AMD CPUs that it is terribly unfair to compare them.

As I have to keep saying: Bullshit factor too high!

> No, I'm just making the obvious point that atheism in gov't is not necessarily superior to reliogion in gov't, on clearly visible evidence.

Yes, it's clear that state atheism hasn't been a reliable moderator of state violence, though it doesn't look like religion has either.

> Dogmatism leading to totalitarianism is the most obvious factor uniting the 20th century's atheistic death states with their nearest theistic analogues, like parts of Europe at different points during the Inquisition.

I can agree with that, though it takes a really broad definition of dogmatism. Enforced collectivism has probably been the primary bane of the past 100 years, and I suppose you could say the enforcers "dogmatically" insisted that collectivism would lead to some desired result. I'm not sure it would be as easy to cast racism and nationalism as dogmatism, but that seems like a minor quibble.

An important issue for claims that religion or atheism have been the worst causes of inhumanity is the difficult or impossible question of how much religion or atheism per se had to do with the various crimes. E.g., the Thirty Years War wasn't solely about religion, and the rampages of mercenaries probably didn't typically have the least bit to do with religion. The way European Christians treated Native Americans was despicable, but I doubt that much of it was motivated by religion per se (though religion was sometimes used as an excuse). Even OBL seems to be motivated by a combination of religion, pan-Arab nationalism, and a sort of racism (or "ethnicism").

For those who are interested, here is a tentative list of history's worst slaughters. If you don't like the numbers in the table, scroll down to the section that shows the great variety of numbers different authors have put on the various episodes.

At any rate, it seems to me that religion per se can be blamed for "a lot" of violence, but I don't see a case that atheism per se can. However, I don't think you can reasonably claim that religion was the worst. Though it's hard to sort the causes out, I suspect that (in no particular order) greed, nationalism, imperialism, racism, disputes over territory/resources, and forced collectivism have each resulted in more deaths than religion per se. But by the same reasoning, I have to reject those who claim or insinuate that atheism was responsible for the tragedy of the twentieth century.

You know very well that's not what parent is saying. He's merely pointing out a fact of history: that more people were killed in the 20th Century by atheist regimes than by any religion. Possibly more than all deaths for religious reasons in all of history, but that would be difficult to calculate for lack of data. At least 60M died under the Maoist and Stalinist regimes alone. (40M and 20M respectively, although that last in particular is a low estimate. See this. Stalin's victims may number as high as 50M.)

In the past century, governments have racke dup 180,000,000 deaths.

Trusting a government with health care is strange. Trusting the government with killing is simply a matter of recognizing a core competency.

Well, the spanish flu pandemic did kill more people than world war 2 and AIDS beats just about any other war besides the big one.

I've got to disagree with those numbers.
Asian Flu deaths (This one got my grandmother in '57.)
Spanish Flu deaths
AIDS/HIV deaths
Deaths in Major Wars
Deaths in Medium Wars

As you can see from those reasonably well-documented pages, deaths from major wars and man-made famines/genocides account for more deaths than major disease outbreaks by a substantial amount. If you factor in typhoid, dysentary, pneumonia, polio, and cholera, then compare those to the rest of the conflicts listed above, my guess is that man still comes out ahead. Yay us.

Well, the spanish flu pandemic did kill more people than world war 2 and AIDS beats just about any other war besides the big one.

I've got to disagree with those numbers.
Asian Flu deaths (This one got my grandmother in '57.)
Spanish Flu deaths
AIDS/HIV deaths
Deaths in Major Wars
Deaths in Medium Wars

As you can see from those reasonably well-documented pages, deaths from major wars and man-made famines/genocides account for more deaths than major disease outbreaks by a substantial amount. If you factor in typhoid, dysentary, pneumonia, polio, and cholera, then compare those to the rest of the conflicts listed above, my guess is that man still comes out ahead. Yay us.

Well, the spanish flu pandemic did kill more people than world war 2 and AIDS beats just about any other war besides the big one.

I've got to disagree with those numbers.
Asian Flu deaths (This one got my grandmother in '57.)
Spanish Flu deaths
AIDS/HIV deaths
Deaths in Major Wars
Deaths in Medium Wars

As you can see from those reasonably well-documented pages, deaths from major wars and man-made famines/genocides account for more deaths than major disease outbreaks by a substantial amount. If you factor in typhoid, dysentary, pneumonia, polio, and cholera, then compare those to the rest of the conflicts listed above, my guess is that man still comes out ahead. Yay us.

Care to provide a source for that claim? As of 1997, approximately 60% of the world's population lived in free countries.

"This war has killed more Iraqi civilians than have ever been in mass graves."

are you joking!!!?? last i checked the iraq body count (which is hardly a pro war site) had a max of 30,318 the mass graves have had over 300 000 and those are are only those discovered so far. We are talking about an order of magnitude more. I know it is cool to bash the war, but making up numbers does not help your case.

Other Intel chips and chipset names can give you an indication of where they were developed. Most parts are designed in Oregon. But, for example, most of Intel's low power parts have names of Israeli geographical features (Banias, Dothan, Merom, Gilo, Jonah, Dimona), and this probably means they were developed at Intel Israel. Expect to see some Indian rivers show up on the list as soon as that development site is up to speed. See the huge list of code names for a geography lesson of the Pacific Northwest.

So where'd you get your numbers?

While he might not have "mainstream" credentials comparable to what you might be used to seeing with mainstream science, you must admit that his credentials are impressive -- and brave. He is willing to go outside the box, but has a strong scientific background. Works in the patent office. Recently

http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Thomas_Valone

He recently won back his job as a US Patent Examiner, with back pay, after a long fight.
http://users.erols.com/iri/ValonePatentOfficeDecis ion.htm

The man is both smart and brave -- a combination rare in academia.

By the way, I have met Jackie, his wife, on a couple of occasions, and must say that she is one of the nicest, most genuine people I have ever met. She's in the top 1% of the bell curve when it comes to human decency. A tribute to Tom, that such a person would support him as a teammate.

-- Sterling

The poster cohomology makes judgement calls on staff members of an organization based on brief descriptions, in his previous post. Now slashdot fans, let's see if cohomology can withstand the same sort of fact-checking based on nothing else but his very own website ...

The web site says:

This is the home page of Josh Rubin and TinCansAndString.net. The name is based on the common experiment

A Keith Kendrick House Concert took place near Port Jervis on September 4, 2005. Sorry we missed you.

He is being suppressed by the government, so I'm not sure...

Then you're a bit silly. But as long as you're a harmless silly, I don't give a shit.

I guess what it comes down to is that I prefer the people around me to have decent critical thinking skills. Even if they're not doing any harm to me at the moment, gullible god-says-so types are a lot easier to subvert than people who actually think about what they're being told to believe.
Especially when you think about that psychological gaps the religion is being used to fill. Religion isn't necessarily a static set of beliefs, it can also be a collection of conflicting arguments providing convenient justification for nearly any action. Which brings us to...

I'm not a big fan of Christianity, but I'm not sure that's true.

Between the 9+ crusades, and the slaughter of native Africans and Americans I think it's pretty safe to say I'm right. As of 1897, M. D. Aletheia put the total at about 56 million.
So that number doesn't include any complicity in the holocaust, nor a host of other atrocities in Rwanda, Ireland,Vietnam (I assume you've seen this Pulitzer prize winning picture of Thich Quang Duc.)

It's getting too late. I need to get to bed, since I obviously can't read. although I should point everyone towards this site which points out some battles that cause many more deaths than normandy.

http://users.erols.com/dweeb/ebocracy.htm

Yeah, and have you not noticed, that's chump change.

Glancing at the Scoreboard and filtering out people who didn't write or use much in the way of books...

3) Adolf Hitler: ~15,000,000, author, Mein Kampf. His 15,000,000 score does not include ~10M German war casualties. (Perhaps he deserves a 25M score for the ~10M Allied war dead.)
2) Josef Stalin: ~20,000,000, ostensibly inspired by Das Kapital. His 20M score also excludes his ~10M Russian war casualties. (And likewise, perhaps Stalin gets a few more million points for German war dead.)
1) Mao Zedong: ~40,000,000, author, Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung, aka "The Little Red Book". Between famines and purges during the Great Leap Forward, damn near every one of these 40M points was scored from people following the ideology outlined in the book.

According to (Possibly) The Twenty (or so) Worst Things People Have Done to Each Other, Mao wins the game, just barely edging out Genghis Khan.

> The bible has inspired more deaths than any other book ever written and still does (ever heard of sectarian violence?).

Readers of the Torah, Bible, and Koran have done some nasty things over the past 4000 years. But they're in the same ballpark as what readers of Mein Kampf, Das Kapital, and Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung have wrought. Hell, they're not even warming the bench.

Yeah, and have you not noticed, that's chump change.

Glancing at the Scoreboard and filtering out people who didn't write or use much in the way of books...

3) Adolf Hitler: ~15,000,000, author, Mein Kampf. His 15,000,000 score does not include ~10M German war casualties. (Perhaps he deserves a 25M score for the ~10M Allied war dead.)
2) Josef Stalin: ~20,000,000, ostensibly inspired by Das Kapital. His 20M score also excludes his ~10M Russian war casualties. (And likewise, perhaps Stalin gets a few more million points for German war dead.)
1) Mao Zedong: ~40,000,000, author, Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung, aka "The Little Red Book". Between famines and purges during the Great Leap Forward, damn near every one of these 40M points was scored from people following the ideology outlined in the book.

According to (Possibly) The Twenty (or so) Worst Things People Have Done to Each Other, Mao wins the game, just barely edging out Genghis Khan.

> The bible has inspired more deaths than any other book ever written and still does (ever heard of sectarian violence?).

Readers of the Torah, Bible, and Koran have done some nasty things over the past 4000 years. But they're in the same ballpark as what readers of Mein Kampf, Das Kapital, and Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung have wrought. Hell, they're not even warming the bench.

Well, actually, good chunks of it are. I was driving around with the altimeter on my GPS this afternoon and most of the areas I was in were in the range of ~-20 to +75 feet.

For vertical elevations, I'd trust a topo map instead.

Depending on what model of consumer GPS you're using, you can be anywhere from 10 - 20 meters off in terms of vertical accuracy.

The Red Dynasty killed about thirty million people in the Cultural Revolution alone.

Um, simply not true. And that site is not pulling punches.

And, when considering the body count of the PRC, keep in mind also the body count of the Koumintang.

It's a useful reference for people who have graphics cards that are a year or two or more old

If people *do* care about older ones, the chart in the article is is incomplete (for example, it lists the Radeon 7500 but not the Radeon 7250).

This link contains both a more comprehensive set of graphics cards and more extensive information on each.

And it isn't covered in ads, as the one in the article is.

See here for stats. The US lost "only" about 300,000 in WWII. It surely wasn't fun, but if that was "huge", what do you call the 20 million Russians who died in WWII, without which Europe at least would be Nazi today; and about 10 million Chinese killed by the Japanese?

What you're missing here is the fact that nothing I have to say will do anything to influence your thinking, which really is the bottom line in any dispute.

I am aware that most debates are futile for the reasons you provide, but I am also aware that in some cases they can be fruitful. I am changing my mind quite often and although I cannot claim to be perfectly objective, I think I am rather good at accomodating new evidence. If you believe you are capable of this as well, our discussion may end with one of us changing his position at least to some extent.

I am saying that your position is wrong, because that's my current opinion. I am judging only by the facts and arguments that I already heard. Similarly, I haven't heard any rebuttals of my mains points from you. Still, I am open to the possibility that you will refute my main points and provide solid arguments in favour of capitalism. Then (after double-checking your evidence) I may change my position and agree that you are right.

any fact or point I bring forward to debate your position would be readily discounted by you as "western propaganda,"

I understand why you may be thinking so and I know that some people would behave exactly in that way, but it is not true in regards to me. But when you give an obviously inflated and obviously inaccurate number of 100 millions victims (which is unusual even among the Big Number school), I clamly state that this is indeed a piece of propaganda. Give me a different fact and I will try to objectively judge it.

You're also missing the fact that not everything is so truly black and white.
Nope. But some things are. And please realise that it's not always possible to accomodate for the complexity of the reality in a discussion. Even though, I am aware that the history of Soviet Union (and its relations with the USA) is very complex, difficult, sometimes controversial and it's not easy to understand or describe it.

See, an truly innovative society doesn't have to rip-off, or lay foundations with, ideas from other nations. It comes up with its own.
According to your personal definition of the innovative society, may be. According to the commonly accepted one - not.

Essay on propaganda in the early Soviet Union
How exactly does that make Soviet Union not innovative? These very same skills (business organisation) that you are talking about were then copied by Japanese in 1940-1950s and then they were copied by the Americans in 1960-1980s (TQM, JIT, etc.). Does that make Japan or the United States less innovative? If you claim that a truly innovative society must not use ideas from other nations at all, but come up only with its own, then there are no innovative societies at all, even the US doesn't qualify. An alternative explanation is that your definition of "innovative society" is fundamentally flawed.

whatever point you were trying to make with this handy little factoid totally escapes me.

The point that whatever advantages a capitalist model might have, eliminating poverty isn't one of them.

I ask you why China is bar none the world's biggest violator of copyright and intellictual property law if they're so capable of an economy full of technological innovation.

Because no sane country should respect foreign copyrights and patents. The only country interesting in strict global enforcement of IP laws is the US, because Hollywood and Microsoft (out of 50 largest software companies 48 are wholly or partially US-owned) would lose billions otherwise.

BTW, Soviet Union didn't respect international copyrights either (it wasn't even a signatory to the respective treaties) and you wouldn't claim that it wasn't capable of technological innovation, would you?

Again, I'd like to know your source for the "real story."

It's not a source, it's a variety of sources in the historical science. There is a lot of bullshit in the Western "research", they are serving the capitalist masters all right, but when you look at the facts and not guesstimates, you find approximately the numbers that I provided.

I doubt you're considering the source of your information and the fact that most of the BS to come out of communist nations is propaganda.

I doubt that you are considering that real bullshit came from the US and US-sponsored propaganda. Even the unreliability of the Soviet data is itself US propaganda.

The figures re number of deaths in Gulag camps do not come from the KGP public announcements, they came from decades of studies by professional (Soviet, Russian and foreign), checking and cross-referencing the sources, checking the results with indirect estimates, working until the information is bulletproof. Do you honestly believe that historical knowledge in Russia is stuck at the level of "100 million victims"? No fucking way. For example, the number of resettled (not killed, BTW :) ) kulaks (1803392 people) is known with precision of 147 families, because someone went through all the records, demographic data, local birth records, transportation records, etc., etc. It isn't possible to know everything with such precision, but the real factual data available is much better than the garbage that US-paid (or voluntary) shills spout all the time.

Yes, actually, it probably is news to him
Well, I've seen a figure of 800,000 (source). And you should also consider that Americans also supplied arms to Pol Pot since 1979 to support his attacks on Vietnam. But I admit that I exaggerated a bit.

Let's put aside the fact that you claim you actually enjoyed living in nations where the thought police not only exist, but thrive, and human rights are non-existant.
Well, we actually had more humans rights in my country (the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics), such as right to food, right to shelter, right to job, right to education, right to health care, right to unlimited personal development, right to creative expressions, right to political activity, right to public speech, rights to this and that, all supported by the resources of our socialist state.

And I am curious about thought police - never met anything like that outside of Orwell novels. In real Soviet Union you were free to think what you wanted, you were free to criticise the socio-economic order, etc. What you weren't free to do was to distribute anti-Soviet propaganda and attempt to undermine the Soviet order. But many people easily found ways around and, sadly, the enforcement wasn't strong enough. :(

In what capitalist nation have you lived where 50% of the people are poor and 25% are starving? I'm curious.
Why, the glorious capitalist country of Russia. Official statistics, BTW (starving meaning not receiving sufficient nutrition according to the WHO standards).

We'd take you more seriously if you didn't contradict yourself so quickly:

"Unless you can see the part of the subpoena that they won't let you see, it is best to assume that you have been given no information at all."

and, based on that no information at all

"Certainly it seems... that there was illegal activity on the part of the government."

As for the US government killing people, I might dispute your number, but 50,000 a year isn't really that many people to kill, considering that some secular governments have killed far more people in shorther periods of time. Stalin and Mao, for example, are estimated to have killed more people together than all of WWII (including the Holocaust). You, sir, are an ass.

The cult recently opened one of their "temples" in California (of course). They have many local churches.

Like the Scientologists who have their "e-meter", these lego freaks have their or psuedo-technological props. They even have an mystic Oracle that you can ask questions on the internet. And just like the leader of the Scientologists, their leaders aspire to be JRR Tolkien. Not only that, these foul fiends have the temerity to rewrite the Bible.

And they are Holocaust revisionists, too boot

1. Exhibit A - one of their foul leaders proudly displays their trumped up "evidence"
2. Exhibit B
3. Exhibit C
4. Exhibit D
5. Exhibit E
6. Exhibit F

They worship strange, vile gods. And are building machines to take over the world.

The cult recently opened one of their "temples" in California (of course). They have many local churches.

Like the Scientologists who have their "e-meter", these lego freaks have their or psuedo-technological props. They even have an mystic Oracle that you can ask questions on the internet. And just like the leader of the Scientologists, their leaders aspire to be JRR Tolkien. Not only that, these foul fiends have the temerity to rewrite the Bible.

And they are Holocaust revisionists, too boot

1. Exhibit A - one of their foul leaders proudly displays their trumped up "evidence"
2. Exhibit B
3. Exhibit C
4. Exhibit D
5. Exhibit E
6. Exhibit F

They worship strange, vile gods. And are building machines to take over the world.

The cult recently opened one of their "temples" in California (of course). They have many local churches.

Like the Scientologists who have their "e-meter", these lego freaks have their or psuedo-technological props. They even have an mystic Oracle that you can ask questions on the internet. And just like the leader of the Scientologists, their leaders aspire to be JRR Tolkien. Not only that, these foul fiends have the temerity to rewrite the Bible.

And they are Holocaust revisionists, too boot

1. Exhibit A - one of their foul leaders proudly displays their trumped up "evidence"
2. Exhibit B
3. Exhibit C
4. Exhibit D
5. Exhibit E
6. Exhibit F

They worship strange, vile gods. And are building machines to take over the world.

The cult recently opened one of their "temples" in California (of course). They have many local churches.

Like the Scientologists who have their "e-meter", these lego freaks have their or psuedo-technological props. They even have an mystic Oracle that you can ask questions on the internet. And just like the leader of the Scientologists, their leaders aspire to be JRR Tolkien. Not only that, these foul fiends have the temerity to rewrite the Bible.

And they are Holocaust revisionists, too boot

1. Exhibit A - one of their foul leaders proudly displays their trumped up "evidence"
2. Exhibit B
3. Exhibit C
4. Exhibit D
5. Exhibit E
6. Exhibit F

They worship strange, vile gods. And are building machines to take over the world.

The cult recently opened one of their "temples" in California (of course). They have many local churches.

Like the Scientologists who have their "e-meter", these lego freaks have their or psuedo-technological props. They even have an mystic Oracle that you can ask questions on the internet. And just like the leader of the Scientologists, their leaders aspire to be JRR Tolkien. Not only that, these foul fiends have the temerity to rewrite the Bible.

And they are Holocaust revisionists, too boot

1. Exhibit A - one of their foul leaders proudly displays their trumped up "evidence"
2. Exhibit B
3. Exhibit C
4. Exhibit D
5. Exhibit E
6. Exhibit F

They worship strange, vile gods. And are building machines to take over the world.

The cult recently opened one of their "temples" in California (of course). They have many local churches.

Like the Scientologists who have their "e-meter", these lego freaks have their or psuedo-technological props. They even have an mystic Oracle that you can ask questions on the internet. And just like the leader of the Scientologists, their leaders aspire to be JRR Tolkien. Not only that, these foul fiends have the temerity to rewrite the Bible.

And they are Holocaust revisionists, too boot

1. Exhibit A - one of their foul leaders proudly displays their trumped up "evidence"
2. Exhibit B
3. Exhibit C
4. Exhibit D
5. Exhibit E
6. Exhibit F

They worship strange, vile gods. And are building machines to take over the world.

The cult recently opened one of their "temples" in California (of course). They have many local churches.

Like the Scientologists who have their "e-meter", these lego freaks have their or psuedo-technological props. They even have an mystic Oracle that you can ask questions on the internet. And just like the leader of the Scientologists, their leaders aspire to be JRR Tolkien. Not only that, these foul fiends have the temerity to rewrite the Bible.

And they are Holocaust revisionists, too boot

1. Exhibit A - one of their foul leaders proudly displays their trumped up "evidence"
2. Exhibit B
3. Exhibit C
4. Exhibit D
5. Exhibit E
6. Exhibit F

They worship strange, vile gods. And are building machines to take over the world.

This service is cool and all of that, but an accuracy of 20-40 meters???

Modern civilian GPS (been using the OmniStar HP service recently.. granted, its subscription-based) has a (real, tested, this-is-not-a-fucking ad) optimal-condition accuracy of 10cm. Even good old vanilla-plain non-SA GPS is at least 10m accurate (horiz position (lat/lon), 95% conf). Src: http://users.erols.com/dlwilson/gpsacc.htm

Anywayz, definitely don't forget GPS... yet?

WHOOSH... is that the sound of my sense of humo(u)r flying off? Blah.

The "woraround" link in TFA led me to this link. That persons situation and the MSN situation in China is not about assasination threats or even the law, it is about intimidation to silence dissent. We all know that anyone with a handfull of crayons can intellectualy threaten Bush, but how does someone posting on a blog physically threaten the president anymore than graffiti on a wall?

"We've had 44 presidents, 4 assasinated while in office. 4 more who have had attempts on their life while in office. That's 18% of the the presidents so far."

Thanks for the interesting stats on what is obviously a dangerous but very rewarding job but other dangerous and rewarding jobs don't seem to require an army of SS officers. From my brief experience on the planet it seems to me that political leaders do more to succesfully incite violence than all the blogs ever writen combined.

http://users.erols.com/chare/elec.htm

Actually, the more reliable accepted figure for Pinochet is 10,000-20,000 civilian deaths, including the coup(http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat6.htm) . How does that even remotely approaches Saddam's attrocities which number into the hundreds of thousands, and perhaps even million for all that we know? You lauch nice ad-homenims, but at the same time you seem to lack any sense of moral perspective.

Just for the record, I did grow up in central America and I am very well informed of the policies of the US government in the rest of the countinent.

While I am not excusing Pinochet and the move the US made at the time, the fact that you bring it up and attempt it to make it comparable to Hussein speaks to the desperation which you have in attempting to prove that the US is wrong right now. How are policies of a quarter centry ago more relevant to the present than the very actions and current sacrifice of the soldiers? Last time I checked, my calendar read "2005", not "1973".

There are numerous states worse than Saddam's Iraq, who are ACTIVELY commiting the crimes Saddam is accused of doing 10 years ago.

I agree with that. But you know how it is with the US. It's damn if you do, damn if you don't. Remember Somalia? We withdrew and while we were still mourning our dead the next ethnic cleansing crisis hit in Rwanda. We didn't do anything and let the rest of the "free" world hadle it for once. Remember how the rest of the world just chickened out, let the slaughter happen and then complained that the US didn't do anything?

Planning for the Iraq invasion PREDATES 9/11.

So, what does that have to do with anything? Last I checked Bill Clinton himself had a "get rid of Saddam" policy that didn't get implemented. It was commonly accepted by the world that Saddam was a growing threat before 9/11. I wholeheartedly agree with your factoid, but let's stick to the subject, shall we?

NO ONE wants their country invaded, regardless of the reasons.

Are you sure about that, or did you just pull that assertion out of the ether? I'm sure that the French would have disagreed with you during the Normany invasion. Ditto for the Afghanis in more modern times.

It's your quagmire and 100,000 people are dead because of YOU

I'm sorry, but it's hard to keep on taking you seriously if you are going to quote a figure that has been discredited by everyone and their grandma. The real death toll accepted by anyone with an ounce of sanity is around 15,000. It's funny how you attack me personally yet your position reflects points that are either grossly exaggerated (Pinochet and South America), or just plain propaganda that only extemists would spout (100,000? Please!). Next time that you reply to someone, please don't assume that you are better informed that they are because you end-up looking like the moron that you assume your oponent is. I suggest that you challenge your own assumptions, bud. That's how you stop being a sheep.

Hey glesga you do know that you just quoted a high school paper as a reference! If your point is that everyone has a bias than you have certainly have proven that by displaying your own bias and desire to exaggerate the suffering. enuf said.

Believe it or not some people prefer to aim for the truth.

I don't think you are particularly interested in the truth but here is link that discusses recent research.

I like the line at the bottom that states:

And while we're tossing blame around willy-nilly, aren't the Native Americans responsible for introducing tobacco to the world -- and for the 90 million deaths which followed? A holocost if there ever was one.

You are quite the amusing philistine today and a bitter, hateful troll to boot.

Wrong again.

I haven't defended the Pope, American backed Latin American death squads nor the War in Iraq, the clubbing of baby seals or anything else.

Your first missive spewed this piece of offal:
(the Pope was) "the head of the single most corrupt organization ever ... responsible for more deaths ... atrocitys than any other organization / company / state / person."

Now you state that:
"US Citizens" ... "They are the biggest killers ever"

Which is it? The Pope or US Citizens? Which one is the focus of evil in the modern world? Both?

See:
"Source List and Detailed Death Tolls for the Man-made Megadeaths of the Twentieth Century" to get some real numbers. There's even a 19th Century stats section for you pinheads that want to compare Stalin to the death of American indians again.
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstats.htm
(Interesting stats, most well documented, and sometimes with conflicting sources (eg: Chomsky gives higher VN casualties than UN reports on the same events, etc.)

Sometimes it like debating a single celled organism..

For Latin, I find that words for Linux helps.

You could look here for a definition...

Tell me why if this model produces 3 - 4 watts of energy why they can't cover the blades of larger windmills with these things or better yet design the blades so they have edge holes with these things inside.

There is no such thing as a free lunch (1st law of thermodynamics). The drag produced by the turbines extracting energy slows the speed of the windmill blades reducing the power delivered to the main generator so you gain nothing by adding those (more likely you will lose since the main generator is less efficient at slower speeds).

Coincidently, this is the same problem with charging the cell phone by clipping this device to the outside of the window while riding in a bus, train, or car. The vehicles engine needs to consume more energy to offset the drag produced by the turbine. Granted it is small compared to the amount of energy used to move the vehicle in the first place but it would be more energy efficient to connect the phone to the vehicles alternator than to convert the engines rotory motion to motion induced "wind flow" and then the wind flow back to rotary motion.

Now could you make a windmill with no main generator and use a large number of small turbines instead? Yes but it probably would not work well at all. In fact, it would probably work less well than just pointing the turbines into the wind which in turn would not work very well at all. The problem is a serious impedance mismatch. Turbines want high pressure/high airflow. A windmill blade tip will be travelling at a lower linear velocity than the air that turns it.

Incidently, power from wind is proporional to the cube of the wind velocity. Generators are inefficient at low speeds. Modern windmills adjust to different wind velocities by feathering the blades to try to run the generator at a relatively constant speed. In really high winds they turn the blades parallel to the airflow to avoid destroying the generator and gear train.

Note that since it was described as a turbine and not a "wind turbine" (which is normally a very different beast) and described it as fitting in a pocket, I am imagining a device with multiple disks with the edge shaped into blades inside a tube like you might find in a jet engine or gas fired power plant (every other disk is stationary or counter rotates to restore longitudinal airflow). A friend built an toilet paper roll cardboard tube sized device out of sheet metal in this topology that was demonstrated with the air from a shop vac that would be about the right size for a cell phone charger. If that is not the topology used., then some of what I have said will not apply but much of it still will.

Whatever turbine topology you use on your windmill blades, you are converting from wind to rotary motion twice and therefore are reducing the efficiency by around 60% compared to doing so once even if it is well designed and operating at optimal wind speed. And poor performance at low speeds will be made even worse by being being run twice through the innefficent portion of a non-linear transfer function.

Back to the original article, the usefulness of this is likely to be very limited since people in India who don't have electricity aren't likely to spend a lot of time running around in vehicles every day to charge their phones. A small roof mounted windmill would probably be a lot more practical. It may have some use as a travel charger for people who will be traveling to distant points but not be staying for very long (such as tourists).

The little generators that run headlights on a bicycle might be another alternative for charging a cell phone. With a stand, pedal power can even be used while stationary. Someone built a generator stand for a bicycle that was capable of generating as much as 260W (100W seems more likely for an extended period of time).

A small solar panel with built in battery (so you don't need to leave your cell phone on char

Virus is a Latin second-declension neuter noun.

Dictionary entry from William Whitaker's Words:

=>virus
vir.us N 2 1 NOM S N
vir.us N 2 1 ACC S N
virus, viri N N
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In any case, murder by government was the leading cause of preventable death in the 20th century, and communist governments led in the mass murder. That's simple historical fact, and nothing capitalism ever did matches it.

See Ranking Atrocities for a ranking of atrocities by percentage of affected population killed. The first three places are for a constitutional monarchy, communist regime, and a consortium of companies. That the largest absolute numbers (USSR, China) are communist atrocities is simply because the affected populations were very large.

Another thing: ideologies don't kill anyone. People do. The nature of capitalism makes it very hard to attribute deaths to them, but surely it is for instance pretty obvious that capitalism is the reason why we still seem unable to feed the world population because there is no "demand" for food in Africa. It is easier to count the victims of an ideology that by its very nature demands centralization of power in one hand.