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Linux on PS3 cool, but we knew it was comming. Nice to see sony release it so early though.

What I am really waiting for is Amiga OS4

As Hyperion state in feature 12 of their 20 features of OS4
"It would be eminently suitable for - and relatively trivial to port to - the STI Cell processor used in the Playstation 3"

Please Hyperion, it's going to be a lot cheaper for Amiga enthusiasts that shelling out for A1 based systems

Maybe a widespread plea from slashdotters would convince them hint hint

Pegasos PPC
Amiga One

to name a few...

That post was not replying to the great-great-grandparent of this, but the great-grandparent, the one that claimed that the great-great-grandparent had got really fucked up set up issues then. My point is that if his 1 GHz machine can only do that, he has some issues of his own to deal with.

1) He never specified a speed, and what if his 1 GHz processor is a Celeron or other piece of junk? (seriously now, his OS will take up all of the processor time not leaving much to be used)
2) Thats not what he said, he said "My 1 ghz computer can play CD quality music", and anyway, why not? http://www.bigg.net/mp3/software/amiga/players.sht ml lists 5 players.
3) He said the 3d shooters were high quality, not the graphics. Doom is high quality. Quake is high quality. Wolfenstein 3D is high quality.
4) As with any MPEG compression, It all depends upon the source, noise regions, color regions, etc.
5) Depends on the software, as it does with any system. Oh, and for you FAT32 users, my Amiga doesn't have a 2 gig file size limit.

And yes, the code has become VERY bloated. That is why they are developing Amiga OS 4 for PPC/G3/G4/G5 machines.
Oh, and in case you are wondering, my Amiga has more free HD space than my PC has total.

The company making the new Amiga hardware is Eyetech Group, Ltd.

The company making the new Amiga Operating System is Hyperion Entertainment

And an example of one of the dozen or so online stores that currently sell the new Amiga Hardware coupled with the new Amiga operating system as well as Classic Amiga Hardware and Software is Vesalia Online --- Thats right! You can already buy it!!!!

It already works in the US. And you can get the songs for free. Download this little hack. Each new customer gets the 3 first songs for free, this hack creates random customer IDs at the push of a button. Works on Motorola phones.

You could target the "Scam The Amiga Zealots" market and get wads of cash for those old [S|D]IMMS that everybody else gives or throws away.

I know you don't like the "exclusive hardware" concept and that is fair enough, but you've told a few lies in this post that counts as going so far as trolling.

1. Only Eyetech have been granted such a license
Eyetech is the only one who applied for a license. It's a support and anti-piracy measure; if you don't like that, then fine. Hyperion/Amiga, Inc. have stated repeatedly that there is no reason why a 3rd party PPC mfg. cannot apply for an OEM AmigaOS4 license. Some have said that piracy killed the Amiga (I at least think it contributed significantly), do you not think a small developer like Hyperion can justly ask for some restrictions on the use of their software which they can only hope in their wildest dreams to at least break even on non-labour costs?

2. and are now (well, since two(?) years) selling the Teron boards mentioned above with an extra 60% on the price as "AmigaOne SE",
The AmigaOne SE is no longer available from eyetech.

3. "AmigaOne PX"
There is no such thing, perhaps you mean the AmigaOne XE, a G4 PPC based motherboard that sells for $829 USD at the American store I just linked?

This is a lot cheaper than the $3,900 quoted on mai's Teron CX page, isn't it? How do you get "60% more" out of that! An AmigaOne is 80% cheaper than a Teron CX evaluation board!!!

4. "Micro AmigaOne", respectively.
Show me where these are available to the public... these are targeted at embedded markets? and are not available to the public

5. Thereby suitable Macs (otherwise a pretty damn obvious target for a PPC "consumer" OS), Terons sold by anybody else regardless of trademarks, Pegasoses, and whatever you could possibly think of in the future, are all out of the question by default. No licence/licencee, no new hardware base for AmigaOS.

Yeah, right. You know very well the complicated politics behind the Pegasos support. You know very well that Bill Buck (Genesi/Thendic "relations") is not the easiest person in the world to do business with, especially when he doesn't like the idea of going to effort to license an OS on his own platform that competes with his own baby?

And about the macs, that IS debatable, but I think you have over-simplified the situation there too.

EyeTech

Dealers here

Nope. Amiga, Inc. sells trademark licences. Well, they were trying at least, until it was announced during a lawsuit that they had transferrred the AmigaOS + "Amiga"(TM) rights to something they call "KMOS, Inc."

Since there won't be any more Amigas, AmigaOS will run on old Amigas (with old PPC expansion boards) and third party hardware. The first hardware to be supported are the Teron CX (discontinued), Teron PX and Teron Mini motherboards designed by Mai Logic.

Amiga, Inc. got "consultation" from the UK computer shop Eyetech to decide that we should still have to pretend that there is "Amiga hardware". I.e. in order for AmigaOS to run on (be ported to) a piece of hardware, that hardware must be sold on a separated "Amiga market" by a distributor with a licence from Amiga, Inc. AmigaOS will not be available for sale, except as in a bundle with licensed hardware (and later on for those ancient PPC-equipped Amigas).

Only Eyetech have been granted such a license, and are now (well, since two(?) years) selling the Teron boards mentioned above with an extra 60% on the price as "AmigaOne SE", "AmigaOne PX", and "Micro AmigaOne", respectively.

Thereby suitable Macs (otherwise a pretty damn obvious target for a PPC "consumer" OS), Terons sold by anybody else regardless of trademarks, Pegasoses, and whatever you could possibly think of in the future, are all out of the question by default. No licence/licencee, no new hardware base for AmigaOS.

This is a PowerPC native port of AmigaOS.

It's a standalone OS, which runs on the new AmigaOne motherboards and is currently being worked on, to work with the older dual CPU (68k&PPC) add-on cards by phase5. (One of which, I have in my Amiga 1200)

The whole of AmigaOS and Exec (kernel) have basically been overhauled and modernised and given memory protection (which will work with new OS4 native programs that make use of it) and can be turned off for OS3.x compatibility. Not to mention a new file system, virtual memory and everything else a modern OS should have. (without needing a shutdown procedure)

68k programs are emulated via a JIT emulation system, to be fully integrated into the OS itself, so "classic" retargettable programs such as Wordworth, Final Writer etc all work without problems, at super-fast speeds :)

As for a reason for it to exist, AmigaOS is an OS of such efficient nature, I've been using it for years on this "old" hardware of mine. If it's fast on a 25mhz 68040, what do you think it's like on an 800mhz G4? That's just one reason...it does what you want it to do, and it runs circles around anything else I've used.

http://os.amiga.com for more info and features. And the url provided in the topic too, of course :)

AmigaOS4 is going to rock :D

The AmigaOne has been selling for over a year now IIRC.

The AmigaOne is a G3-based Amiga. It's pretty expensive, though, and I haven't heard much about it.

While the heading refers to Linux on Macs, there's a number of other PPC machines that'll run Linux

a pegasos I or II is a PPC based machine, there's also Amiga One boards - a new Mini-ITX AmigaOne looks REALLY appealing, as long as it's not slugged with the "Amiga Tax" (double the price for the privilege of being able to run AmigaOS4 if it's released). a Mini ITX board with a GHz or more G4 - not a scaled down VIA type setup, but a full honest-to-goodness G4. That's appealing.

There's also several VMEbus boards based on PPC chips from PPC440 to G4s, and a newer one out soon from Momentum computer, Dual G5s on an ATX board. Pricey, but it's just a reference board at the moment.

If prices dropped on these, especially on the Momentum board, I could see these being real alternatives to x86, especially for people a bit worried about MS's palladium plans. A mac is a wonderful thing, but if you ask 'Why bother" about putting Linux over the top of a machine that'll run OSX, one of the above solutions might be an option.

Where can I buy one?

Amazingly enough: here, here, or here

seems some things just never die

(and no I'm not still using one myself as my main machine, but you did ask...)

Well thats a good reason to purchase an AmigaOne at a dealer closest to you, beofore AmigaOS4 is released and get the OS for free.

Or you could purchase the Pegasos and get MorphOS (an Amiga like operating system) for free.

Well thats a good reason to purchase an AmigaOne at a dealer closest to you, beofore AmigaOS4 is released and get the OS for free.

Or you could purchase the Pegasos and get MorphOS (an Amiga like operating system) for free.

For a platform that's been "dead" for ten years, the available hardware is stranglely up to date...

Actually, new Amigas are available now, and they are also not far away from releasing AmigaOS 4.0.
The previous version of the OS, v3.9, was released less than 2 years ago, so I'm not so sure about the "aging-platform" talk.

Unfortunately, whoever has owned the Amiga rights in the years since Commodore (Escom, Gateway, and now Amiga) have failed to produce anything other than a couple of OS updates (better than nothing, certainly, but not a huge step forward). Some new hardware, the "AmigaOne" (from Eyetech), has been produced and on sale for about a year, but so far only runs Linux.

But some of the "Amiga-like OS's" mentioned by the AmiZilla Guidelines can be considered "new", even if they aren't official Amigas. There's Amithlon (based on a modified Linux kernel and uses emulation to run AmigaOS on any standard PC - unfortunately development stopped due to disagreements between the developers and the publisher), and MorphOS (runs on the Pegasos).

Have you seen that hardware? It's five-year-old PowerPC G3 stuff and it doesn't even sound like it's in full production yet.

The "AmigaOne" hardware is out, and includes a G4 version. The problem is AmigaOS 4, which as you say seems like a perfect example of vapourware (it's been promised since summer 2000 IIRC).

Amiga is truley the kings of old school vaporware.

Amiga Inc the company, perhaps, but not the Amiga (ie, the computer) market. For example, if you want new machines, there's MorphOS and the Pegasos (Amiga compatible computers which are as close as say OS X is to MacOS; they just don't own the Amiga trademarks).

"Micro AmigaOne" = Mai Logic's upcoming Teron Mini (mini-ITX).

The $800 "AmigaOne XE" is a Teron PX. Terra Soft was going to sell these boards at Mai Logic's normal RRP of $500, but TSS found out that it was a buggy piece of junk, so they dropped it like a hot potato (in contrast to moneygrubbing cowboy outfits like Eyetech, who are happy with only selling to slightly retarded "Amiga" trademark fanatics).

So, whenever Mai Logic releases the Teron Mini, it seems like you'll get it 60% cheaper if you buy it normally, without Eyetech's/AmigaInc's 60% "let's pretend there are still Amigas" tax.

Only AmigaOS users have to worry about that tax on their hardware (and then paying for AmigaOS as well). You'll still be able to buy the same hardware normally.

About time someone brought that up. From MoL's FAQ:

Does MOL run on non-Apple hardware?
It does. MOL runs for instance on the Pegasos board, the Teron board and on AmigaOne hardware. In short, MOL should run on any PowerPC hardware (with the except of 601-based systems). However, the EULA of MacOS prohibits its usage on non-Apple hardware (it is of course perfectly legal to use MOL to boot a second Linux though).

Amiga? You can't still buy those, can you? Or are you talking about Amiga users that still happen to have a working machine? :)

As a matter of fact you can buy a brand new G3-based Amiga right now, and the Amiga OS is being developed and sold. Have fun! :)

You're wrong I'm afraid, there's new working Amigas out there now. Have a look at the AmigaOne and the Pegasos (which is almost an Amiga).

New PPC machines have been released. You can buy them now from a dealer new your or from the manufactorer...

The boards are as follows.
Pegasos From Genisi

AmigaOne From Eyetech Based on MAI Teron design.

Soon Pegasos II From Genisi

The pegasos board runs various operating systems including the flagship os MorphOS

AmigaOnes run the new AmigaOS4 developed by Hyperion Entertainment.

There seems to be some confusion with regard to which OSes/solutions this effort is directed at. Currently there are 4 main 68k Amiga compatible solutions DiscreetFX would like to see supported. For two first one listed below PPC native versions would be preferable:

1) AmigaOS4

This is the official new AmigaOS developed for classic Amigas upgraded with PPC accelerators and new AmigaOne computers which are being sold with G3 and G4 processors.

Some of the latest but still unfinished screenshots of AmigaOS4:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?sto ryid=560
AmigaOne motherboards can already be bought in combination with Linux at the following dealers (AmigaOS4 will be delivered for free as soon as it is finished): http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/dealers.php

With MOL MacOS X can also already be used with this system (as well as with the Peg below):

http://www.anythingamiga.com/XEPics/x2.jpg.html

2) MorphOS

Its ABOX environment is a re-implementation of version 3.1 of the Amiga operating system. The re-implemted Exec kernel is hosted on top of a Quark microkernel. The OS is fast and responsive and currently runs with G3 Pegasos motherboards. Interested people will have to wait for the Pegasos II, which is planned for release in September. An interesting review can be found at OSNews:
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3589

3) AROS

An open source project intended as a multi-platform re-implementation of version 3.1 of the Amiga operating system. Most of the development takes place on x86 computers. Much of the source code was used for MorphOS. http://www.aros.org/

4) UAE, Amithlon and other 68 AmigaOS emulators

AmigaOS XL: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=604
Amiga Forever: http://cloanto.com/amiga/forever/

Not on a 7 Mhz A500. But on a PPC upgrade classic system or AmigaOne computer @ 600 Mhz - Dual 1.4 Ghz AmigaOne running AmigaOS4 this would be powerful enough.

From the Mac-on-Linux FAQ:

Q: Does MOL run on the AmigaOne hardware (or in general, on non-Apple hardware)?
A: It does. MOL runs on any PowerPC hardware (except 601-based systems). However, the EULA of MacOS prohibits its usage on non-Apple hardware (it is of course perfectly legal to use MOL to boot a second Linux thoiugh).

Apple could take a leaf out of Amiga, Inc's book. There won't be any new Amiga hardware, instead future versions of AmigaOS are meant to run on "off the shelf" hardware. The Mai Logic Teron PX PPC mobo to begin with. But AmigaOS will only be sold bundled together with Teron boards that have gotten some dongle code added to it's firmware, so users can only buy their hardware via a "licensed" distributor, so there's a cosy little artificially created monopoly on other people's products, with having to make any hardware of your own.

Of course, this could only ever attract braindead zealots with too much money for their own good, who would buy anything with the Apple logo anyway, but the geniuses at Amiga, Inc seem to think that this is a commercially viable market segment! :-D

The Teron board and its competitors were designed to ship with DebianPPC and to work with the upcoming AmigaOS 4.0. It has almost nothing to do with Apple, as most posters asserted (although Darwin might be hacked to run on it).

Its primary competitor, Eyetech's implementation of AmigaOne, is a $299 600MHz G3 atx mobo that can be optionally connected to an A1200 or A4000 mobo to accelerate "classic" Amiga 68k applications. The TerraSoft proposal wasn't nearly as good, and would have been undercut by Eyetech's price.

For those of us who switched from Amiga to Mac after the fall of Commodore, AmigaOS 4.0 is worth a look-- it is a completely PPC-native OS with a 68k emulator for backward compatibility. The screenshots are cool.

I have an empty 6GB partition on my YaoBook waiting for a stable port of AmigaOS 4 to multiboot with Debian and Jaguar. Maybe I'm just dreaming. If I am, don't wake me up.

There are other PowerPC motherboard suppliers our there still, notably Genesi Sarl which ships a Micro-ATX board of its own design, as opposed to the OEMed Mai Teron board that both TerraSoft and Eyetech have been licensing. There are a limited number of Pegasos 1 motherboards available from Genesi and a Pegasos 2 motherboard is in development for release later this year. Additionally Eyetech has been pre-selling their "AmigaONE" boards, which as I mentioned are based on the old Mai Teron design.

Please note that the current Peagsos 1 boards use the same chipset as the Teron boards, except for the addition of a chip dubbed the April which fixes some bugs in the chipset. The new Pegasos 2 boards will use a completely different chipset from Marvell.

Uh, you can still buy an AmigaOne from Eyetech . (The AmigaOne uses the exact same reference design as the Teron, and is more or less the same thing, although the firmware chip has some different stuff on it for running AmigaOS).

There are also various resellers who will sell you one if you do a little searching.

Supplies are a little bumpy (shipment stopped for a little while while waiting for a newer board revision that fixed some issues with the northbridge), but I know people who have AmigaOnes already. (Regular people, not just people in developers like Hyperion (us))

Uh, you can still buy an AmigaOne from Eyetech . (The AmigaOne uses the exact same reference design as the Teron, and is more or less the same thing, although the firmware chip has some different stuff on it for running AmigaOS).

There are also various resellers who will sell you one if you do a little searching.

Supplies are a little bumpy (shipment stopped for a little while while waiting for a newer board revision that fixed some issues with the northbridge), but I know people who have AmigaOnes already. (Regular people, not just people in developers like Hyperion (us))

Eyetech have sold combined x86/Amiga systems to the Amiga market for years and Siamese Systems announced, though never sold, the 3-Pack and 8-pack Amiga/Alpha-based systems.

It's shipping, people have the new motherboards up and running. See Eyetech's (who are making the boards) announcement at http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/oct252002a.php, or the discussion at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amigaone/. The OS itself isn't out yet, but the boards run Linux PPC just fine.

It's not mentioned in the story, but this board is the Teron CX, which is also distributed under the licensed trademark "AmigaOne G3-SE".

There's also a model with the CPU on an exchangeable module, called Teron PX (or "AmigaOne XE" when it's marketed to AmigaOS users). Hopefully we'll see Terrasoft and others selling Teron PX as well, which offers G4 and 750FX (a newer, faster G3 design) CPUs.

Due to a seriously fscked up compulsory licensing policy for AmigaOS, that OS will however not be sold separate from licensed hardware and be allowed to be installed on Teron boards from vendors who are not licensed by Amiga, Inc., like Terrasoft.

P.S. Why is this story under "Apple"? MOL runs fine on these, but come on!

AmigaOne

AmigaOS4 screenshots

Mainstream Launch

I'd say that Amiga is coming along as well.

They still have A1200s on sale! They must be at least 10 years old now. So who wants an A1200 with a massive 170MB hard disk (yes, MB not GB)?

You could get a PPC based Amiga One. I've not used one personaly, but it appears to be a PPC system using mostly commodity parts.

Pegasos
Should be available now AFAIK.

There is also the Amiga One which right now is mostly vapor (E.g. not purchasable at the moment)

See, I mentioned both.

The AmigaOne G3 SE is a fairly generic ATX motherboard with 133MHz DIMM sockets, IBM 750CXe PowerPC chip (600Mhz), 4xPCI, 1xAGP, etc, etc.

It runs AmigaOS 4 or PPC Linux quite happily. Plonk one of these in a standard case and you've got yourself a DIY PPC solution .. or is that a bit too easy? :-)

"New Amiga One"? Is there a NEW Amiga?

No, there isn't. There will be no more Amigas, instead future versions of AmigaOS will run on third party hardware (and on Amigas with PPC accelerators). Mai Logic's Teron CX POP motherboard is one such piece of hardware, although AmigaOS will only be allowed to run on this board when it's renamed "AmigaOne G3SE" and distributed by Eyetech Ltd.. Hardware must be licensed, provide a hardware-license verification mechanism (known as "anti-piracy measures" in the marketing waffle) and be sold by a licensed distributor in order to be allowed to run AmigaOS, and AmigaOS will only be available bundled with such hardware.

This hardware licensing scheme was designed by Amiga Inc. with "consultation" from Eyetech, and it's hardly surprising that Eyetech is the only hardware distributor that has acquired such a license.

There was once upon a time going to be newly designed, proprietary Amiga hardware, back when Eyetech was a "hardware partner" of Amiga Inc. These "AmigaOne 1200/4000" boards never appeared, and instead third party hardware is to be used (although the advantages of getting rid of "Amiga" hardware are negated with this compulsory licensing madness).

Read more about it here.

MorphOS is intended for the POP-compliant Pegasos PowerPC board from bPlan. Note that while a Realtek PHYceiver is listed, that's just the PHY; the ethernet controller itself is a Via Rhine derivative embedded in the southbridge. Pictures here. It can also run on classic Amigas with appropriate PowerPC accellerators; NetBSD is also being readied for the bPlan hardware.

AmigaOS 4 is the 'name-brand' product, being produced under contract by Germany's Hyperion Software. It's intended for Eyetech's AmigaOne G3SE and XE products, and Elbox's SharkPPC accellerator in classic hardware with suitable PCI busboards. Hardware dongling of the AmigaOne (with respect to AmigaOS; Linux and *BSD will run unhindered), and continuing intellectual-property disputes may or may not effect the chances of OS4 support for the Pegasos.

All three new PowerPC boards use MAI's PowerPC chipsets, also seen on the Linux-friendly Barbie.

Nor should we forget 'AmigaDE' or 'Amiga-Anywhere,' a crossplatform system based on Tao's Intent runtime + media libs, which is really quite cool even if they've just redesigned their site opaquely. the CEO of Gentoo provides a good writeup here.

Or Amiga One. Not a Mac, but 600MHz PPC and cheapish. Can run Linux.
http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/information.php
http://www.eyetech.co.uk/search.php?SearchStr=&Sea rchCat=AMA1

Or Amiga One. Not a Mac, but 600MHz PPC and cheapish. Can run Linux.
http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/information.php
http://www.eyetech.co.uk/search.php?SearchStr=&Sea rchCat=AMA1

No, "The Amiga" is not coming back. There will not be any more Amiga hardware, nobody is designing, making, selling or planning any Amiga hardware. Amiga-the-hardware-platform is dead. I don't blame you cbr372 though, this article is really whacked out.

This is not "New Amiga hardware", it's a "generic" POP board cloned from the Mai TeronCX, only its new distributor Eyetech has licensed the "AmigaOne" trademark from Amiga Inc.

Forthcoming versions of AmigaOS running on hardware from third parties like this would be fantastic news if only Amiga Inc. hadn't decided to f*ck things up as usual with some seriously demented distribution policies for new versions of AmigaOS: Any hardware, in order to be allowed to run AmigaOS, must be licensed by Amiga Inc. The hardware vendor must also get a license for himself and his support/financial organisation, he must equip his hardware with a hardware license verification mechanism (although Amiga Inc. affectionally calls it "anti-piracy measures") and he must sell AmigaOS bundled with his hardware. AmigaOS will not be available for sale separated from hardware to us users who wish to choose our hardware and hardware vendors ourselves.

Of course this is unacceptable for independent hardware vendors, especially those who design Open Hardware like POP which is what AmigaOS will run on, and thus Amiga Inc. are killing AmigaOS in a very effective way. If it's intentional it's probably to redirect resources to their "AmigaDE" project. Unfortunately they're at the same time splitting the "potentially AmigaOS compatible" hardware market into "hardware for AmigaOS" and "the exact same hardware but for everyone else".

Please consider signing this petition to Amiga Inc. if you wouldn't like this to happen. There's more info about all this available here.

WOW! This is one seriously misleading article! It must be pointed out that this is NOT any "New Amiga Hardware". It's a clone of the Mai TeronCX POP motherboard. Nobody is designing, making or selling any "new Amigas", least of all the software company Amiga Inc. The forthcoming AmigaOS4 will run on generic POP/PPC hardware from third party distributors and on old Amigas with PPC accelerators. Eyetech, the distributor of this motherboard has simply licensed the "Amiga" trademark.

Unfortunately AmigaOS4 is being killed by Amiga Inc. themselves before it has a chance to take off. They have come up with an insane distribution policy for all future versions of AmigaOS. In order to be allowed to run AmigaOS, any third party hardware vendor is supposed to buy a license from Amiga Inc for both himself and his hardware, he must modify his hardware with license verification measures (Amiga Inc. uses a nonsensical "anti-piracy" argument for this), and he must sell AmigaOS bundled with his hardware. AmigaOS will not be available for sale separately to users who wish to choose their own hardware and hardware vendors.

Please consider signing this petition to Amiga Inc. to make them at least give AmigaOS a fair chance and to wake them upo from their megalomanic dilusions of trying to control an independent hardware market! There's more info about this dirty business here.

And of course it runs MOL/MacOS - it's a POP board with OpenFirmware and it's running Linux. Is this news?

From the begining that was true, but that text is really old.

Eyetech (http://www.eyetech.co.uk/amigaone/) makes the AmigaONE motherboard, not Amiga Inc.

I don't think the AmigaONE from Eyetech actually follows those old specs longer.
// Hagge

> but what about pictures of the hardware?

You can find some pictures of the actual AmigaOneG3-SE hardware here. An upgrade option to AmigaOne-XE board will be avaiable through AmigaOne dealers.

The first boards come with modem, AC97 sound, modem (via an AMR riser card), 10/100 ethernet, soldered 600 Mhz G3 (XE version will have a socket) and AmigaOS4.

Some pictures of an earlier prototype running TurboLinux can be found here.