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Good title. Wrong network. Fair and unbalanced. Riiggghhhhtttt...

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There was always something that bugged me about foxnews.com cnn.com bbc.co.uk, etc, but I could never put my finger on it. They don't link to any documents or sources

You may be right about the BBC, but you are wrong about foxnews.com. I'm no apologist, but I give credit where credit is due.

The current front-page story on foxnews.com is about the Supreme Court's ruling 'Under God' Case Dismissed on Technicality

In the short blub on the front page, one immediately finds, under "raw data," Supreme Court's Dismissal of Case. Right there on the front page.

Venus Rocks!

Why should they refuse ads from Microsoft? Aren't the readers smart enough to make up their own minds about the benefits of Linux? This reminds me of a recent "outrage" when The Nation ran some full-page ads for Faux News. Most of their readers just laughed at Fox for throwing their money away.

I'd rather that organizations who sell ad space have less editorial control. For instance, Adbusters and the MoveOn PAC have repeatedly been denied airtime on network TV, even though they are able to pay for it, simply because the network execs don't like their message. This is a far greater injustice.

Actually, that's illegal. 3 Cheers for corporate "democracy"!

Just wait till a similar "Linux Bill" or, better yet, "Freedom Bill" - no suing the government over loss of personal freedom, because hey, people should just deal with it, right? Do what Ronald says and be a good boy. And get a free toy, too!

Nobody mentioned the coffee case. That is pretty cut-and-dry, I think. I believe the original poster was referring to the case of the fat fucks who are suing McDonald's over their own inability to control themselves.

It's fucking sickening to see that people not only don't take responsibility for their own actions, but try to make someone else do it for them! And this, apparently, is the American dream.

Fuck.

Shhhhh

Keep that stuff quiet. Bush might get Blair to send in the Real Bombers....

The worst was when the RIAA sued a girl using Kazaa who was about 12 years old - she even paid for it monthly, too.

Most people would be fined and that would be end of that.

Tell that to this guy. He lost his job as an FBI agent, because he lied to investigators about an affair. In this case, the affair was with an informant he was managing, but that fact is not listed on his charge sheet. All that was important was that he lied, noone cared what about, or that it was "a personal matter."

In the real world, when people lie, there are consequences.

History shows that the impeachment distracted the president enough for al quada to plan and execute attacks against the US.

Bullshit. The World Trade Center was bombed in '93, long before the impeachment. Khobar Towers was blown up in '96, again long before the impeachment. It was Clinton's ineffectual response to those activitities that gave al Queda the nuts to do whatever they wanted, including bombing our embassies in Africa (the response for which was to blow up an aspirin factory and some empty tents).

Only one shell? An advanced binary mixing shell with the ability to hold 1 gallon of Sarin? Saddam didn't have those before the 1st Gulf War according to Janes.
What about the mustard gas that was discovered? Was it too "just leftover"? How many other things are you going to claim were just leftover when they pop up? And leftover from what? Saddam never declared sarin artillery shells to the UN in 1995.

The UNMOVIC official said the group needs to know more from the Bush administration before it's possible to determine if this is "old or new stuff. It is known that Iraq used sarin during the Iraq-Iran war, however.

Kimmitt said the shell belonged to a class of ordnance that Saddam's government said was destroyed before the 1991 Gulf war (search). Experts believe both the sarin and mustard gas weapons date back to that time.

The question was answered by the overwhelming number of Senators and House members two years ago.

But judging from your use of "imminent threat" when the President expressed during his State of the Union that he would not wait till the threat was imminent is key to identifying the color of your commentary.

Yes. Last year, America experienced the lowest number of terrorist attacks, home and abroad, in 20 years according to the State Department. Deposing Saddam Hussein has already born fruit.

When the story broke about the bomb going off that was hooked up to a sarin gas shell (Sarin is a nerve agent, a weapon of mass destruction), for that day and the next, you could find no news story on CNN.com about it. Not one. It was covered on FOX News and MSNBC's websites. Nothing on cnn.com. On the third day, I did manage to find an article that was discussing something else about the war, and at the bottom it mentioned the sarin bomb found.

I have seen several stories about WMD being found in Iraq since the war began (or ended if you like sticking your head in the ground)and so far not one has turned out to be actual WMD. Still these stories played prominantly on the 24 hour news cycle. Invariably, several days later, the true identitiy of the "WMD" is found and oubviously not as widely publicized, especially on fox. Ever since the WMD mobile lab with canvas sides (that sounds like a sterile environment) which was paraded around as "proof" of WMD, I have taken every such story with a large grain of salt. Especially when it comes from fox. WOLF!

I can't say for sure that this "sarin" is not real, but I can say that so far 100% of the WMD news stories have been fabrications by either the government or the "news" media.

Actually yes, that should have been a consideration. We should have looked at what we'd get out of it vs what the cost would be. In this case we got nothing out of it and we are paying billions each month for the privilege of occupying the place. And to top all that off we provided Al-Qaeda with the best damn recruitment photograph [smh.com.au] in history.

So you have definitive proof that the occupation would have gone smoother if Saddam had, say, gassed another country before being invaded? Or that our Lynndie England would have behaved better if the U.S. have gotten a U.N. mandate?

Do you have any evidence that he was still trying to create them?

Rumor has it that the Iraq Survey Group has found evidence of just that. I'd wait for the final report if I were you.

I'm sorry but we don't go to war on "We think he might be doing this".

Just like we shouldn't have gone to war with Afghanistan before Sept 11th?

But even besides the subject of preemption, there still was the matter that Iraq violated the terms of it's cease-fire with the United States. One of those terms was compliance with U.N. inspectors, but the U.N. did not have the last say. (Just in case they were incompetent or corrupt, which they were.)

And quite frankly who the hell cares what Saddam may or may not have had? I'd have started worrying about it when he had delivery systems to actually get the damn things here.

Delivery systems -- you mean like commercial boats or airplanes? How hard do you think it would be to smuggle destructive devices into the U.S. through Mexico or Canada? Not all that hard, considering the massive amounts of drugs flowing into this country.

And we all know that Saddam heartily approved of Al-Qaeda's WTC attacks.

"He was in bed with the terrorists" unless you are prepared to say exactly what terrorists he was "in bed" with
I've heard about his terrorist links, but... why would he need them anyway? I mean, he ran a whole country. He had many more resources at his disposal than any two-bit group of jihadi yahoos.

I don't know that we're losing but we aren't winning now are we?

As long as we successfully hand over the Iraq to the planned Iraqi government, we won. As it stands, there are no significant military threats to that. Al-Sadr has lost significant ground, and Fallujah has been pacified.

A small group of unpopular "rebels" are not a threat to the upcoming interim government.

From Fox News. The story related to a monkey-pox outbreak spread by Gambian Rats that were caged with groundhogs (and later sold).

Gamgian Rat

Sorta cute if you like rats.

Please stop propagating junk science propagated by anti-American communists. "Pollution" is just FUD spread by the anti-Progress communo-envirofascist lobby. For a fair and balanced view of the "environment", please see Fox News - Fair And Balanced or The CATO Institute, Protecting America Against Statism.

Turns out that there has been more than one found.

Sarin & mustard gas weapons.

Looks like the WMD hunt may be warming up again.

There is also the case of Abu Zubayr, an officer in Saddam's secret police who was also the ringleader of an al Qaeda cell in Morocco. He attended the September 5, 2001 meeting in Spain with other al Qaeda operatives, including Ramzi Bin-al-Shibh, the 9/11 financial chief. Abu Zubayr was apprehended in May, 2002, while putting together a plot to mount suicide attacks on U.S. ships passing through the straits of Gibraltar. He has allegedly since stated that Iraq trained and supplied chemical weapons to al Qaeda. In the fall of 2001 al Qaeda refugees from Afghanistan took refuge in northern Iraq until they were driven out by Coalition forces, and Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, an al Qaeda terrorist active in Europe and North Africa, fled from Baghdad during Operation Iraqi Freedom. He has reportedly been sent back to Iraq to coordinate al Qaeda activities there.

Take note of Al-Zarqawi. You can read some of what he has to say about the war in Iraq in my next response.

Iraq also sheltered Abu Nidal, one of the most notorious terrorists of the 70s and 80s who appears to have links to 9/11. Oddly enough, Nidal committed "suicide" by shooting himself multiple times, in the head IIRC, not long before the war.

and now we're handing it over to Al Qaeda.

Al Qaeda doesn't feel that way. Here is what their leader in Iraq, Al-Zarqawi, has to saw about their fighters and efforts there only a few months ago:

1. Most of them have little expertise or experience, especially in organized collective work. Doubtlessly, they are the result of a repressive regime that militarized the country, spread dismay, propagated fear and dread, and destroyed confidence among the people. For this reason, most of the groups are working in isolation, with no political horizon, farsightedness, or preparation to inherit the land. Yes, the idea has begun to ripen, and a light whisper has arisen to become noisy talk about the need to band together and unite under one banner. But matters are still in their initial stages. With God?s praise, we are trying to ripen them quickly.

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But they can turn you away because their Surgeons left the county or don't want to treat high risk cases, due to high malpractice insurance and frivolous lawsuits.

Neurosurgeons don't treat

One more...

Every time a tort reform bill is put forward, it gets shot down in the Congress. I'm in the medical profession too, and it sickens me totally.

Even the anti-American British publication "The Economist"

Erm... Say what?

Just because something doesn't toe the party line doesn't necessarily mean it's anti-American. Honest reporting doesn't ignore difficult concepts - with all the criticism of the British government's policies that goes on in most of the UK's press, are you going to call them anti-British too?

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Al-Sadr's army is well coordinated and well disciplined. His soldiers are standing and fighting. 40% of the Iraqi security force is running at the first shots and 10% are turning around and shooting at the Americans. I'll even site Fox News Who has more support?

-B

Obviously the RIAA is feeling optimistic about the future of legally downloaded music, and wants to get the price hike in now while they can. Obviously this does no good other than inflate their pocket books, and many of you (me too) believe this is flat-out wrong. I suggest we all email Bill O'Reilly, who is a guy that gets things done when there is an outrage (this is one).

oreilly@foxnews.com

Perhaps if there is a price hike, we start a BOYCOTT (like the French one...that is hurting them big) for any music priced above $0.99. Please email Bill and let him hear you out. If enough of us do, we can make something happen.

Might want to keep your comments pithy.

Michael Jensen
Columbia, MO

You must have missed it. Here's a link to one copy of it.:
Bush Apologizes for Prisoner Abuse.
Hope this helps.

It's not all THAT bad.
It's not like there are other useless channels out there.

OK, not yet in the US, but there are cases of Church sanctioned lying out there:

Condoms are made with holes that allow AIDS to pass through. As if the original claim wasn't bad enough, read to the bottom and note that there is (admittedly hearsay) claims that people are being told that condoms are laced with AIDS in the first place.

Or, if you want a little closer to home, you can see what people think about Bush's abstinence-only sex ed drive:
How we look and act abroad

Admittedly Fox News, but opens with a great quote: "(Abstinence education) tells teens they have a choice," said Jennifer Marshall, family issues director for the Heritage Foundation ... and what would this be, a choice between no sex, and ignorant unprotected sex?

I only have ancedotal evidence for this (my boss's wife is an OB/GYN) but there are people out there who at least make a good show of ignorance about their own body. His wife has seen patients who apparently didn't know that they don't pee from their vagina. Some who didn't know that they were pregnant at late stages - with high obesity rates, who notices a few extra pounds around the middle? Hormone treatments, The Pill, and the crap in our environment already mess with periods, even more so in young people who haven't established a regular enough cycle to notice missing a month or two yet.

Read this and weep.

I'll give you summary.
92% of americans believe in god.
85% believe in heaven
82% believe in miracles
71% believe in the devil
And here is the kicker.
69% of americans believe that religion plays a too small of a role in peoples lives.

That's right. 69% of americans want more religion not less.

That ought to sober you up.

Take a look at this story about H1-B visas and outsourcing and then get even madder at him. The high tech companies imported over 600,000 H1-B visas while laying off 500,000 people in IT. Pissed yet?

Michael Jackson, the self-proclaimed 'King of Pop' has just fired his Nation of Islam legal counsel. Jackson claims that the Nation of Islam kept trying to kill him in his sleep while chanting "Kill Whitey...Kill Whitey..."

Jackson's decision follows his recent indictment for touching little boys in an inappropriate manner. Jackson has hired new counsel from the GNAA. Most view this move as a surefire win, since the GNAA has welcomed Jackson with open arms...and anuses.

In other news...

Michael Jackson, the self-proclaimed 'King of Pop' has just fired his legal counsel from the Nation of Islam.

They kept trying to kill him in his sleep claiming they needed to "Kill Whitey". Jackson has now joined forces with the GNAA for a new legal counsel.

Or, if you have to ask, you should be elsewhere.

Even that "developers" grouping should be a giveaway.

A milter-alike is killer (make decisions on the content DURING the smtp connection). be nice if it actually used the (barely documented and evolving) milter interface - I can buy commercial Milter products from McAfee and Trend and Sendmail and others...

And IPv6! Wow, sendmail was shipping that commercially in March of 2000. (it was in the free mta before that (commercial is prebuilt mta+gui+management of gangs of machines)).

I like Postfix. I like Weitse. he, and the sendmail folk, can be really helpful and not launch ad hominum attacks on a whim. That's good.

This is off-topic. Further, it is most likely a waste of my time. But what the heck, I'll reply this once.

The Supreme Court has already ruled that criminals don't have to register their guns

You call it idiotic distortion, the Supreme Court called it a Fifth Amendment issue. Since convicted criminals have lost their right under the law to have firearms, they would be incriminating themselves to register them, thus convicted criminals are exempt from registration laws.

Haynes v. U.S. 390 U.S. 85 (1968)

Did it ever occur to you that "law abiding folks" sometimes become criminals?

Sure. And some of them are stupid enough to commit a crime that can be easily traced back to them. That's why I conceded that registration would catch a few really dumb criminals.

If not, do you get out from under your rock often?

This is why I am probably wasting my time. You are talking like a person who isn't interested in a debate, just interested in "scoring points" with your mind already made up.

Do you really think that ballistics experts would be fooled by the effects from some grit-smeared bullets?

A fired-bullet database would not be searched by ballistics experts, but by computers. The computers already have trouble matching bullets correctly:

"When cartridges from the same manufacturer were test-fired and compared, computer matching failed 38 percent of the time. With cartridges from different manufacturers, computer matching failed 62 percent of the time."

"The experts concluded it's unknown whether cartridges fired after typical firearm break-in and wear can at all be matched to the cartridge fired when the gun was new."

How Reliable Is Ballistic Fingerprinting?

If you worked in a machine shop and some street thug showed up with a Glock and wanted you to change out a perfectly good barrel, wouldn't you get suspicious?

Unless you have some way of keeping criminals from buying machine tools, criminals could put together their own machine shop. That news story I quoted, above, suggested that a file is all you really need to change the barrel enough to make a bullet not match the database.

You wouldn't make much of a cop, would you?

I'll concede that more data is always better than less data, and it might sometimes help to know from whom a weapon was stolen. But it won't help that much. Criminals already buy stolen guns on the street, and a gun might change hands more than once before it's used in a crime.

And remember, this is all assuming the fired-bullet database actually produces reliable matches.

Maybe if one of the "few really dumb criminals" shoots your father, mother, wife, or child, you will get a better perspective on the value of catching them.

If a proposed anti-crime measure caught only a few really dumb criminals, and had no other side effects, I'd be in favor of it, even if it was a bit on the expensive side. But this isn't that simple. If you want to convince me that firearm registration is a good idea, you will need to show evidence that the good outweighs the harm.

And given the special status of firearms -- people use them to defend their families, and they are the last resort against a tyrannical government -- you will need to show exceptional evidence to convince me. Because registration, while it may not inevitably lead to confiscation, certainly paves the road for it.

I don't care about hand-picked statistics since they are normally flawed, skewed, and cooked.

I picked the state where I live. I pointed out that despite the lack of a training requirement, my state has no problems with the folks who get concealed carry licenses. You were the one arguing that people should be required t

He wan't censored. He was able to say what he wanted and he was then fired for what he said. Many people can and do get fired for saying the wrong things on the job. Especially if it is against guy like Donovan McNabb who plays a lot of good football which gets people to watch your highlight/fake news show. And in the end the sports journalists loved the whole event because they had something to talk about for a week. Plus he has his own radio show to vent on.

2) Trent Lott, US Senate/US mainstream media;

Again, he was able to say what he wanted. Boo-F-ing Hoo that America does not value his words like John Stewart's

3) Dr. Laura Schlessinger, gay-right groups;

This was not censorship. This was people using economic pressure to remove someone from the air that was not liked enough to produce such a sentiment. If you believe that removal of a product (even media) by boycott is censorship, I would hate to hear what you think about labor unions.

4) Conservative faulty & speakers, every college campus;

Um, come to Texas bub!

5) Bernard Goldberg, banned from network interviews while promoting NYT bestseller. 6) Ann Coulter, banned from network interviews while promoting NYT bestseller. 7) Sean Hannity, banned from network interviews while promoting NYT bestseller.

Hmmm. I think they all got plenty of air time on Fox News. That's why the network exists. And cry me a river for these people who lack media exposure but are on the bestseller list!

Nice cherry-pick of economic numbers there, John Kerry. I don't think your hours worked GDP numbers tell the whole story. For example, we have much higher overall per-capita numbers. If you think an economy should be judged on how much leisure time a nation's peoples have, well we will never speak the same language. France has been around a lot longer than the US, but we produce almost nine times its overall GNP. What about growth? Innovation? Employment? (France and Germany's unemployment numbers are almost twice as high!)

The bottom line is there is trouble in both of your socialist paradises: France has been racing toward a free-market economy to the point where it is becoming merely a very heavily-taxed capitalist economy, and your vaunted 35-hour work week has been killing the economy:

• France is in the midst of transition, from a well-to-do modern economy that has featured extensive government ownership and intervention to one that relies more on market mechanisms...The current government has lowered income taxes and introduced measures to boost employment (9% unemployment). At the end of 2002 the government was focusing on the problems of the high cost of labor and labor market inflexibility resulting from the 35-hour workweek and restrictions on lay-offs...The tax burden remains one of the highest in Europe. The current economic slowdown and inflexible budget items have pushed the deficit above the EU's 3% debt limit. Business investment remains listless because of low rates of capital utilization, high debt, and the steep cost of capital.
• Source

Germany's economy has been in the crapper for years, and its latest numbers look weak. And it seems your socialist welfare state has some outsourcing problems of its own:

• Germany shed the most jobs in a decade last year as companies including Siemens AG, the nation's biggest electronics company, SAP AG, Germany's biggest software provider, and Volkswagen AG, the largest car producer in Europe, shift production to China, India and Eastern Europe, where labor costs are a fraction of the level in their home market.
• Source.

Further,

• Germany's economy has expanded by an average of 1.2 percent every year since 1992, the same as Japan and less than half the rates in the U.S. and the U.K. in the period.
• Source.

And

• Germany's ageing population, combined with high unemployment, has pushed social security outlays to a level exceeding contributions from workers. Structural rigidities in the labor market - including strict regulations on laying off workers and the setting of wages on a national basis - have made unemployment (now above 10%) a chronic problem.
• Source

Oops! Looks like this socialist utopia is collapsing under its own weight. Your socialist economies just can't compete in a free world market, something that even China and the Russians are coming around to. Pretty sad your two shining examples of socialism are invalidated by the fact that their economies suck!

• The Cologne-based IW economic institute said in a survey last month that German industry's labor costs are the highest in the world, with 72 percent of 523 companies questioned saying they would hire more staff if the government made headway on lowering the burden.

• ``The reason that we go more to India and those countries is we get highly skilled young people in a flexible labor market for cheap prices,'' said Henning Kagermann, 56, chief executive officer of SAP, in an interview at the Cebit fair in Hanov

Have you just started reading slashdot? In no way is the genocide in Rwanda remotely connected to any story ever published.

Well, there is the September 11th coverage, which is essentially about the slaughter and destruction of civilians for political ends. But that's just because of Slashdot's American-centrism, which is understandable.

I guess I was hoping for it to be somehow mentioned in passing in some way. There is a lot of current but non-technical stuff which is mentioned in passing simply because there is some remote connection with technology.

Feel free to read CNN.com for your story, however.

Thanks; yes, it's covered well there.

God, the first hit on a Google search for Rwanda on foxnews.com turns up this crud, which argues that genocide is a natural consquence of gun control. (Sigh.)

The article calls it "the Navy's ship", but it's leased from an Australian shipbuilder for $21M. Per year? With the Navy, more like per mile, nautical or otherwise. And why does the US government not just buy it, rather than assume the cost of financing? Is it corporate welfare, or more Bollinger pork? Yet another tax cheat? Or just a worthwhile diversion of money to offshore allies in Iraq War Jr, while bankrupting American promises to "support our troops"? Maybe Halliburton's got an Australian shipyard to catch some of the bankrupt US Treasury money that somehow escapes the Iraqmire...

I had not seen this news until now, but still find it impractical they would build a mobile hydrogen plant. Seems much more economical to build a permanent building if everything was legit. Why clean the trucks so good and go through all the trouble to hide them if it was perfectly legal? A mobile plant costs much more to operate than a fixed structure. Sounds fishy and i don't buy the explanation. Still, why are the potent pesticides so far away from any agriculture? That just makes no sense at all. Real pesticides would be in a barn or something, not where you have to go 50 miles each way to spray your crops. Also, didn't Saddam fire banned missiles at us during the war? What more proof do you need? The world is a better place now his regime is over. I certainly dont believe the trucks in question were used to make hydrogen. More weapons will show up, they are probably in Syria now. Also, look when we kicked Sadaam's ass, Libya got so scared they opened up their doors and showed us their weapons programs, knowing they might be next on the list. We got another evil terrorist dictator and didnt even have to launch one bomb. The weapons exist. They will be found.

Well Mr AC, since you havn't watched the news at all or have a very short memory, here's a quick refresher: Trucks that are portable weapons labs . These are the trucks you conveniently forgot about. What other purpose are they for? I suppose a portable babyfood lab or something. As far as the pesticides, we aren't talking about your regular pesticide found in your garage, or even on a large farm for that matter. Heavy duty stuff. This isn't Raid or DDT, its a magnatude more potent than that. Again, why the pesticide with no agriculture for miles in any direction? Especially heavy duty stuff like they found. Why would legit pesticide be hidden so well also? It just doesn't make sense no matter how you try to justify it. According to your numbers, 15,000 iraqi civilian and military personnel are dead. You also mention he killed hundreds of thousands of iranians. That is quite a big difference. How many in mass graves have we found? There are countless thousands saddam killed we are just finding out about. Much more than 15,000. How many lives were spared by overthrowing this madman? The iraqi people's lifestyle will improve and they will not have to live in fear now. Saddam had to go.

Isn't technology great? It seems to be an irony of sorts, we created and refined the technology to truly enable a global economy and global workforce.

Programmers working tirelessly tucked away in some office/cube in the US on a module for their ERP App to track widget production throughout the enterprise or developing some extranet to enable their offshore sister companies to share data.

This person, who worked tirelessly, long hours, high stress, under tremendous pressure to meet a deadline, meets his/her goal and ultimately finds themself in the unemployment line and the global enterprise chuggs on...

sell high, buy low, stay lean so you can pull out on a moments notice.

I don't know if it's a question of morality, The US is built on capitalism and opportunity, however, with the proliferation of the global enterprise, the barriers of entry are getting higher as companies swallow up other companies and get bigger and more diverse.

Is is all moral? I don't know.
Do I like it? no.
Can it be stopped? it would be fought.

Consumers are demanding lower prices, shareholders are demanding higher earnings, and people want more of everything.

Maybe we need to start being a little more realistic about what we really *need*, rather than what we want?

it's all about the almighty $$$ and making as much of it as possible.

The only true way to get the message out is to

STOP BUYING THE PRODUCTS FROM THE COMPANIES THAT OFFSHORE LABOR

once the people see the earnings go down, there will be a reaction.

Remember Dell?

Richard Clarke is telling the truth.

Which truth?

[August 2002]
"So, point five, that process which was initiated in the first week in February, uh, decided in principle, uh in the spring to add to the existing Clinton strategy and to increase CIA resources, for example, for covert action, five-fold, to go after Al Qaeda."

or

[60 Minutes, March 2004] "Clarke was the president's chief adviser on terrorism, yet it wasn't until Sept. 11 that he ever got to brief Mr. Bush on the subject. Clarke says that prior to Sept. 11, the administration didn't take the threat seriously."

Scary...

I'm sure he meant what he said, and I agree - most large environmental groups are now political tools.

Like this story...

Or how about the guy that did more environmental damage burning all those SUVs then they would have caused in 20 years of operation?

Or how about that recycling can cause more pollution than not?

I'm not saying environmentalism is bad, I practice due dilligence myself, but these large "green" groups have become political tools that often simply act contrary to the establishment.

What great fun it was to see this snake twisting and turning when J. Thomposon exposed his lies in public.

Arafat's going down next.

How do you like that you bleeding heart liberal assholes? Don't like it when the guilty are actuually getting punished?

Friday was "quadruple witching day".

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Trading was feverish due to what's known as quadruple witching -- the expiration of all index and equity options and futures contracts -- and investors took the opportunity to adjust their portfolios and move into more defensive stocks. Technology shares, led by a sharp drop in semiconductors, suffered the biggest declines.


Wacky price movements were completely expected last week. No evidence of something fishy going on.

Boy you are just full of shit aren't you.

Hows about picking one and explaining it rather than touting completely unrelated tidbits of misaligned information.

I'm still not convinced on global warming so how can I condemn another man who also isn't convinced. While we understand a lot more about climatology now than we did 100 years ago it doesn't mean the study of it has been mastered yet. There are as many reasons to question global warming as there are to accept it so to say he is wrong in his opinion on the subject I think shows a great lack of understanding for the position he is in.

The president has to weight in the economic impact of all conservationist type reactions to such perceived threats and determine which outcome is the most likely. The environment is very robust and to take the stand that we as humans could destroy it within the span of 20 years shows a complete lack of understanding of the scale of the earth for one thing.

I love how you just say he lied to a whole nation in order to get support for the war. What did he say or even insinuate that was a lie?

The truth is your the one lying you are the one whose a threat to this nation and innocent Iraqis. Its people like you who murdered more than 400 thousand innocent Iraqi's during the gulf war.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105070,00.html

http://www.9neesan.com/massgraves/

I would love to see you try and explain to these people why the US promised people Sadam would not hurt them in exchange for their support. Take a hard look and realize these are real people too. While you would place the blood of the innocent killed on the hands of the one person who is actually doing the right thing for once in our government. These people were all murdered for believing they might one day live in a world were they didn't have to fear the wrath of Sadam.

But of course innocent civilian lives only count when it suits your agenda. Not that I think you would lose any sleep on it after all the only point you wanted to make was how evil Bush really is. The truth is if people like you don't wake up and realize the world isn't republican vs. democrat then you will continue to be a regurgitator of lies and a threat to all the is just and fair in the world.

This has gone way off topic and I would be glad to give you more on this tangent once something like this becomes a topic on Slashdot as I'm sure others would as well.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114497,00.html

Hey cheapskate. Maybe if you subscribed to Salon you wouldn't have that problem. Independent news sites like Salon are going to disappear if they get no revenue. Maybe next time you visit salon.com, it'll say "Thanks to our former subscribers for the support. Due to our operating costs going through the roof but only four people subscribing, we've been forced to go out of business. This domain was bought by Fox News in bankruptcy proceedings. Click here to go there now.

If you're too cheap to pay for anything, you have to be satisfied with things like ad-supported internet access (see NetZero) and ad-supported news (like salon's day-pass, and fucking TV, where's the complaining about CNN?). Yes, the ads are more intrusive than they were in 1999. The venture capital investment is gone and advertisers won't pay jack for barely-there banner ads. Now they want your full attention for a moment. So WTF is salon.com supposed to do, just say, "Everything is free! No ads! When the bandwidth bill comes, we'll just mail them some monopoly money"??

If ad-supported websites didn't exist, the only people who could afford to publish on the Internet would be the conglomerated media who make their money from--say it with me--ad revenue from TV (etc.). Get it yet?

Now, Mr. Troll, get back under your bridge.

Hey cheapskate. Maybe if you subscribed to Salon you wouldn't have that problem. Independent news sites like Salon are going to disappear if they get no revenue. Maybe next time you visit salon.com, it'll say "Thanks to our former subscribers for the support. Due to our operating costs going through the roof but only four people subscribing, we've been forced to go out of business. This domain was bought by Fox News in bankruptcy proceedings. Click here to go there now.

If you're too cheap to pay for anything, you have to be satisfied with things like ad-supported internet access (see NetZero) and ad-supported news (like salon's day-pass, and fucking TV, where's the complaining about CNN?). Yes, the ads are more intrusive than they were in 1999. The venture capital investment is gone and advertisers won't pay jack for barely-there banner ads. Now they want your full attention for a moment. So WTF is salon.com supposed to do, just say, "Everything is free! No ads! When the bandwidth bill comes, we'll just mail them some monopoly money"??

If ad-supported websites didn't exist, the only people who could afford to publish on the Internet would be the conglomerated media who make their money from--say it with me--ad revenue from TV (etc.). Get it yet?

Now, Mr. Troll, get back under your bridge.

Actually, I heard it was more like 78%** of all statistics were made up on the spot.

** Source : http://www.foxnews.com/

Fair and balanced.

Watch your tone boy! Unless you want this guy to come over to your house and talk some sense into you :D
Great editorial btw.
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I dunno, I can think of one... ;-)