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How do you manage to keep safe from these imaginary brown people??

He's probably not a woman, and doesn't attend concerts, swimming pools, jogging, or New Year's Eve celebrations.

You poor snowflake!

How brave of you to brush under the rug the real "rape culture" being imported into Europe and other Western countries.

Take for instance: Yes, Violent Crime Has Spiked In Sweden Since Open Immigration Germany: Migrant Crime Spiked in 2016

Well, whatever you are babbling about seems popular. Its a load of bull, but popular bull, apparently.

Oh forget massacres happening because other bad things happen and no where that isn't a literal fucking utopia has any business criticising.

So, do you think the amount of people getting shot in America is;
A)Too many
B)Just right
C)Too few

Or was there some other set of "rights" or policies you think are backfiring? Take for instance: Yes, Violent Crime Has Spiked In Sweden Since Open Immigration Germany: Migrant Crime Spiked in 2016

Well, whatever you are babbling about seems popular. Its a load of bull, but popular bull, apparently.

It's always a bit sad if people believe their own propaganda. There are many reasons why the rate of reported rapes in Sweden is high. But as far as we can tell, an unusually high incident of rape as defined in other countries is not among them. Sweden has a much more expansive definition of rape, a different definition of what count as a single incident of rape, a very comprehensive collection and reporting system, and a very low cultural bar to reporting rape.

I'd also be very sceptical of everything the Gatestone Institute reports - quite apart from their political bias, it should be a warning that they run advertisments that promise beautiful Russian women who just want to take your out, and presumable sell you thousand's of iPhone 8s for only US$1 per piece....

This.

Some people go to any length to prove their bigotry has a basis in reality.

Crime has seen an uptick in Europe of late, but is this due to immigrants or the more rational explanation that economic conditions have worsened over the last year. You'll notice that the a worse uptick in crime is occurring in the UK whilst the immigrants are leaving (which might have something to do with the UK's economic conditions worsening faster than Europes).

Nah, must be the immagrunts, right? Not like crime and poverty have a demonstrated relationship.

Also, serious crimes like stabbings are a rare thing over here, the massive increase over 4 years is something like 50 extra cases a year in a city the size of London (8.7 million people).

Or was there some other set of "rights" or policies you think are backfiring? Take for instance: Yes, Violent Crime Has Spiked In Sweden Since Open Immigration Germany: Migrant Crime Spiked in 2016

Well, whatever you are babbling about seems popular. Its a load of bull, but popular bull, apparently.

It's always a bit sad if people believe their own propaganda. There are many reasons why the rate of reported rapes in Sweden is high. But as far as we can tell, an unusually high incident of rape as defined in other countries is not among them. Sweden has a much more expansive definition of rape, a different definition of what count as a single incident of rape, a very comprehensive collection and reporting system, and a very low cultural bar to reporting rape.

I'd also be very sceptical of everything the Gatestone Institute reports - quite apart from their political bias, it should be a warning that they run advertisments that promise beautiful Russian women who just want to take your out, and presumable sell you thousand's of iPhone 8s for only US$1 per piece....

Well, you have to admit, nobody really bothered defending the important ones that protect your freedom and privacy, but the one that can actually backfire gets defended like it's the only important one.

That is kinda odd, don't you think?

It would be odd if it were true, but it isn't, . . . at least for the United States. In fact it is a load of utter rubbish. Or are you really going to try to claim that you've never heard of civil liberties organizations like the ACLU, EFF, Alliance Defending Freedom, The FIRE, .... Or are you referring to something else?

Europe and Canada certainly seems to believe free speech can backfire, hence there are many restrictions. Was that what you were referring to?

Or was there some other set of "rights" or policies you think are backfiring? Take for instance:
Yes, Violent Crime Has Spiked In Sweden Since Open Immigration
Germany: Migrant Crime Spiked in 2016

Well, whatever you are babbling about seems popular. Its a load of bull, but popular bull, apparently.

Even though we like to think that everyone is enlightened, etc as us, in very broad swaths of American society being gay or jewish (or Muslim or...) is very much perceived as a negative out of the starting gate. File under: Sad-But-true.

I wonder how much of this is based on completely rational reasoning. Gays don't have kids (adoption notwithstanding), and the social purpose of having kids is to keep the population up and society running. Those that don't have kids have their social usefulness cut in half and are seen as not doing their part, so to a pre-robot society whose main resource is population, it's understandable that back then such people were looked down upon. I'm not saying that people were/are right to ostracize/mistreat others based on their sexuality, I'm just saying that such a point of view reaches the realm of rationality when viewed through the lens of history.

Jews have a tendency to be frugal/cheap and often restrict their social help to only other Jews, whereas in the US people lean more towards the idea of helping everyone. That's not to say that every Christian is an amazing, giving person (every group contains a spectrum of people), but when generalizing those are details that tend to come out. Muslims, well, there's a religion that hasn't left the dark ages. A quarter of muslims living in the UK support Sharia superseding local law when in conflict, if not outright replacing it. People are understandably worried when the fastest-growing demographic wants to outlaw homosexuality (52%) and who knows what else. Again, that's not to say that all muslims think like this, but when large portions of a group of people hold beliefs that are the antithesis of western freedoms, in Europe it's a huge problem that's only going to get worse before it gets better... assuming it ever gets better.

People are shitty and some groups of people have more shitty people than others, but should judge the people we meet based on their personality/actions and not their labels (heh, if you read between the lines, to SJWs that's oppression because you take people's victimhood away). However, in topics such as mass migration, such generalizations must be taken into consideration, even though I agree that using such terms as insults is bad and nothing but an attempt to make society's problems an us-versus-them problem, which doesn't help anything.

Germany.

Throw away your passport. Don't tell them where you're from. Apply for asylum. Worst case you get denied but you still get free housing, healthcare, food and other basic necessities. If you refuse to leave long enough you get a permant residence permit.

How's that working out for Germany? I hear that rapes are up by double digit percentages and social friction it as 50 year highs.

citations

https://www.gatestoneinstitute... https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/...

Anyways, why bother with facts when you can use #alternativefacts, the latter doesn't even require any references.

You mean like the fact that actual "physical assaults" have gone through the roof? By nearly 1500% That's not the overly broad definition that people like trying to use. That's the definition that we'd use here in North America, meaning physical assault plus violent penetration. That the number of reported gang rapes has gone through the roof as well. Or that there's more cases of this type of garbage going on? One also can't forget that since they had that migrant surge and allowed all those people in, violent crime has jumped 300% Or that the swedish government seems to be scrubbing the backgrounds of the attackers out of crime stats or the media uses the "swedish men" claim when they aren't citizens, aren't naturalized, have no form of landed residence.

Those are facts. Much like the fact that the government leaned on the police and media in Germany to suppress the number of assaults during new years a few years ago. These are the same facts that Germany is currently facing, and France. It's why tour companies in Asia are telling tourists to avoid some Euro destinations because cities have become unsafe.

Because the second statement is false

I suppose it must be false as you've as asserted it to be so with no argument whatsoever.

I note that you have abandoned your original bogus claim

Such as:

“Of course there are no-go zones in France where the police cannot intervene and do their jobs in safety,” Denis Jacob from the union Alternative police-CFDT told The Local. “And it’s the same for fire fighters or pretty much any representative of the state. The police can’t apply the law in these areas, they are attacked. If the police can’t do their work it’s because there are criminals and delinquents who don’t respect the law.”

, for example. Do you mean to suggest he's lying?

Pity you're replacing it with an equally bogus claim.

What, that Sweden is the rape capital of Europe? Been for a swim in your pretty little bathing suit recently?

perhaps it is because you are in fact islamophobic?

I have a phobia against bad ideas and Islam is an extremely bad idea. Speaking of twaddle, perhaps your news sources are lying to you?

So you think the role of the US is to replicate the role of EU? Not really, otherwise the US would have Chancellor Merkel.... er, .. President Hillary Clinton.

Germany's Migrant Rape Crisis Spirals out of Control
‘Cologne is every day’: Europe’s rape epidemic
Why Did British Police Ignore Pakistani Gangs Abusing 1,400 Rotherham Children? Political Correctness

Not really. The FBI did a really good job over the decades. So did European governments. Problem is, they're bringing in a lot of people that have been taught from the age of 3 that it's ok to kill infidels. They teach them that every year. A few people they can deal with, 10's of thousands is a lot harder.

It's simple, don't let them into the country. Send 'em back.

The alternative is we won't have a Europe in probably 10 years. Probably won't have a United States either. We'll all be slaves, under Sharia law.

Before you mark this troll or respond like an idiot, check it out. European "no go zones"
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Not really. The FBI did a really good job over the decades. So did European governments. Problem is, they're bringing in a lot of people that have been taught from the age of 3 that it's ok to kill infidels. They teach them that every year. A few people they can deal with, 10's of thousands is a lot harder.

It's simple, don't let them into the country. Send 'em back.

The alternative is we won't have a Europe in probably 10 years. Probably won't have a United States either. We'll all be slaves, under Sharia law.

Before you mark this troll or respond like an idiot, check it out. European "no go zones"
https://www.gatestoneinstitute...
https://www.gatestoneinstitute...
http://www.thenewamerican.com/...

I prefer reality over stupid google maps made by xenophobic right wingers. Check the actual statistics.

Every incident on that map is sourced.

Every incident here and here is sourced.

Labelling people presenting facts as "xenophobic right wingers" for objecting to the importation of 3rd world criminality means neither yourself or the German government can be taken seriously. I suggest you grow up and further suggest Merkel start taking responsibility for the consequences of her actions.

I prefer reality over stupid google maps made by xenophobic right wingers. Check the actual statistics.

Every incident on that map is sourced.

Every incident here and here is sourced.

Labelling people presenting facts as "xenophobic right wingers" for objecting to the importation of 3rd world criminality means neither yourself or the German government can be taken seriously. I suggest you grow up and further suggest Merkel start taking responsibility for the consequences of her actions.

You'd be surprised how much is protected by the First Amendment.

You'd be surprised if not astonished that most of the planet isn't American and is not subject to American principles of law. But it is. Not only is Israel not America, neither is France, Spain, Indonesia, the Philippines, India, Russia or Venezuela. Outside the borders of the US you're just another bunch of foreigners, sometimes behaving yourself and at other times acting like dicks. One might wish to cite the Universal Declaration of Human Rights on free speech, but it's not that clear what it includes and doesn't include. One might also look at the Organization of Islamic Cooperation which in it's version of human rights states that free speech is OK, as long as it doesn't conflict with Sharia. "Palestine" is a signatory.

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You mean anti-porn zealots like these?

I mean, anti-porn zealots mentioned in the write-up:

Anti-pornography groups have succeeded in their efforts to get Starbucks and McDonald's to block porn on the chains' Wi-Fi networks

That's the party of Trump, by the way.

More of the anti-porn zealots may be among Trump supporters, but the even worse danger is from the freaks, who'd criminalize (what they deem to be) "hate speech". These are mostly in Hillary's camp — are you comfortbable in that company?

Neither group should be allowed to prevail and the best way to achieve this is by keeping as much stuff as possible out of government's control to begin with.

Without warning, a third soldier emerged from inside the tank and started shooting at the three girls and then also at their grandmother.

This may or may not have been a horrible war crime, but it was not an Act of Terror. There is a fairly clear definition: civilians must be the targets (not bystanders) of calculated (not accidental or mistaken) violence for the purpose of intimidation or coercion or instilling fear.

The IDF refused to let an ambulance bring them to the hospital

Hamas has uses ambulances to transport troops and ammunition. They also use children for suicide attacks — a common practice by Islamists in Palestine and world-wide. Children are also used as human shields — because it works on impressionable useful idiots like yourself. Whether the women, who stepped out, were innocent, or were about to throw a tank-disabling bomb under the tracks, may not have been obvious.

But, again whether the IDF soldier had justifiable suspicions in his shooting of the family, or committed a war crime, it was not an act of terror.

And I did ask for three examples — certainly, a country labeled "terrorist" by detractors would have at least three acts of terror to its name...

Hamas averages dozens of such acts every year — their whole strategy is based on targeting Israeli civilians, because they are impotent at targeting IDF. And yet, you'd like to pretend, Israel is "worse" or "just as bad". Fail.

No immigrant is actually trying to install it in an EU country. Why would they? They are much better off with our laws.

That doesn't mean they like European laws.

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shoot up malls This is the EU, not the US. You can not buy a firearm in the next shop.

http://crimeresearch.org/2015/...

... "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" - Voltaire ...

In Europe and Canada criticizing the Jews is of no consequence. In fact the Jews have become their standard boogieman to be attacked

The killing of Jews is no problem either - in actual fact, part of the European continent becomes hyper-euphoric every time Jews got murdered

But if you ever dare to criticize the moslems, or Islam, you will get into trouble

BIG TROUBLE !

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If it turns out the "racists" are correct in some fashion, does that make them "racists"?

Irrelevant. The racists are still racists. It doesn't matter if they wear pink slippers on Saturday mornings or if they also like to play tennis.
Immigrants being overrepresented among crimes is used as an argument to punish those who doesn't commit crimes. That is racist and unfair.
You can easily spot a racist. The particular argument doesn't matter, they will always come to the conclusion that all people who are different from them are the same and should be treated as a group and punished as a group rather than individuals.
Yes, I am a Swede and the thing that worries me isn't that I see more black skin than I usually do on my way to work. The thing that worries me is that I recently got "political information" in the mail talking about preserving the Aryan genes and fighting a race war.

There's a reason why Sweden has one of the highest rape rates in the world and it's not because there are that many actual rapes going on.

The Swedes will be glad to hear that. Of course you realize there are different views about that.

But it is somewhat amusing to watch the racists and the feminists fight over it,...

I suppose it would be a shame for nobody to get a benefit from the situation.

But it is somewhat amusing to watch the racists and the feminists fight over it,

If it turns out the "racists" are correct in some fashion, does that make them "racists"?

But yes, if you read the original police documents, the purpose of going to the police was to force an STD test.

Traumatized people don't always think right.

That the US was involved I rather doubt

In absence of evidence that is a good thing.

as any borderline chargeable offense will automatically be pushed by the police and prosecution whether the supposed victim wants it or not

See my first comment.

it's quite enough that an activist prosecutor like Marianne Ny smells some publicity and the opportunity to 'send a message' to start that chain of events and completely screw up the victims life far beyond the original issue.

Interesting rhetoric, but I don't recall hearing that it was the prosecutor that "screwed up" anyone's life. I would think Assange might have played a roll in that.

Hopefully Ny's utter incompetence in this has put a permanent black mark on her career.

That is probably what happened to the first prosecutor.

There's a reason why Sweden has one of the highest rape rates in the world and it's not because there are that many actual rapes going on.

The Swedes will be glad to hear that. Of course you realize there are different views about that.

But it is somewhat amusing to watch the racists and the feminists fight over it,...

I suppose it would be a shame for nobody to get a benefit from the situation.

But it is somewhat amusing to watch the racists and the feminists fight over it,

If it turns out the "racists" are correct in some fashion, does that make them "racists"?

But yes, if you read the original police documents, the purpose of going to the police was to force an STD test.

Traumatized people don't always think right.

That the US was involved I rather doubt

In absence of evidence that is a good thing.

as any borderline chargeable offense will automatically be pushed by the police and prosecution whether the supposed victim wants it or not

See my first comment.

it's quite enough that an activist prosecutor like Marianne Ny smells some publicity and the opportunity to 'send a message' to start that chain of events and completely screw up the victims life far beyond the original issue.

Interesting rhetoric, but I don't recall hearing that it was the prosecutor that "screwed up" anyone's life. I would think Assange might have played a roll in that.

Hopefully Ny's utter incompetence in this has put a permanent black mark on her career.

That is probably what happened to the first prosecutor.

As fars I see it there is no particular raping going on,

http://www.gatestoneinstitute....

Yep, not just Germany. Check out the violent crime and rape stats in Sweden: http://www.gatestoneinstitute....

It's not so much that the statistics went up, it's that the courts are sympathizing with the rapists! Mind-boggling.

P.S. to mods: This is not a troll. This is data.

Dont forget taxi drivers do this as well. This is not Ubers fault, but im glad its easier to track them down since you have all of their information in electronic form. You know why? Because who remembers the taxi number of the cab you just got out of, especially if youre drunk.

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That is just retarded. Non-white immigrants and descendants of immigrants only make up 300,000 people in Denmark, or short of 6% of the population, and hasn't been raising since the immigration laws were tighten in the late 90s, and since then they have gone from tight to being outright silly, and no major political party is seriously trying to bring them back to sanity let alone the immigrant positive levels of the 20th century.

Somehow this fact has escaped the nationalist right wing, who rose to power to oppose the immigration policies of the 70-90s, but then admitting they already won would mean shuting down..

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US military spending remains outrageous, at about the level of the rest of the world put together.

That is irrelevant to the question regarding the US defense budget rising or falling.

I assume you mean the 2013 cuts -- those have been matched, basically dollar for dollar, by increasing the "temporary" budget for Afghanistan.

Sorry, but no. US defense spending has been falling since 2010. For 2015 it will probably end up being about $120 billion less than 2010.

Major personnel cuts are happening too.

Pentagon Set to Slash Military to Pre-World War II Levels

Fundamentalism is a part of it, yes, but would never amount to anything like what we've seen were it not for widespread anti-US sentiments stemming from more pragmatic reasons

Islamist insurrections have been on-going since at least the 1950s (ignoring the earlier ones) and have been aimed at taking control of the local nation. They have nothing to do with the US. You don't know what you are talking about.

Coming from someone who apparently still believes the Iraq war had anything to do with 911 ...

Please provide some evidence for this. You are simply engaging in cheap, misleading rhetoric.

somehow still manages to delude himself that anti-American sentiment somehow thrives in complete isolation of its international posturing

Enjoy your illusions while you still can.

Intelligence Report: Number of Islamists in Germany Grows
Germany: Islamists Infiltrating Schools in Hamburg

German interior minister warns of threat of lethal attacks by Islamists

On Wednesday, German interior minister Thomas de Maizière (Christian Democratic Union, CDU) warned of an imminent threat of terrorist attacks by Islamist “religious warriors” in Germany and throughout Europe.

“An abstract danger has become a concrete, lethal threat in Europe, with an impact on Germany,” the interior minister said at the presentation of the domestic intelligence agency’s 2013 report in Berlin. The attack at the Jewish museum in Brussels, where four people were killed by a jihadi at the end of May, had “made clear that the possibility of an attack by such forces returning from Syria has become a deadly reality,” de Maizière explained.

Domestic intelligence chief Hans-Georg Maaßen added, “Islamist terrorism represents the greatest threat to society. Germany is not far from terrorism. We continue to be a target for the planning of attacks.”

Officials Say Islamic Terrorism Is Germany's Big Domestic Security Risk

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That's 2 seconds of googling.

...carried out beheadings in this century?

How many synagogues did they burn?

How many honor killings did they carry out?

Many European countries have significant numbers of extremists in them that are either involved in terrorism or support it, including France, the UK, and Germany. One of the terrorist cells that conducted the 9/11 attacks came out of Hamburg. Germany has seen a rise of neo-Nazi violence, including a string of murders, and there have been concerns that the government was looking the other way to allow it. At the same time Germany has been a key supplier of sophisticated weapons to various countries, including Israel. It was also a country that did a lot of business with Saddam. There are growing tensions among countries in the EU over a number of issues, including the financial and economic problems, and some old hatreds seem to be stirring in many places. These sort of tensions have previously led to war and genocide. Russia, China, and probably Iran, all have many spies in Germany. Chancellor Merkel's phone was being monitored by five (5) different countries, not just the US. Russia especially would like to neutralize Germany, and see NATO fall apart, and who knows what with the EU. The potential for the Euro to fall apart in a meaningful concern, and the German central bank plays a key part there. There is certainly more beyond that to be concerned about. If you can't figure out some reasons why the US may be interested in the domestic affairs of not only Germany, but other nations to varying degrees, you don't really have much useful to say on the matter.

so will this result in a theocratic christian government run by the bible belt?

Europe is in a much bigger danger of something like that than the US. It might take 50 years, but trouble is brewing.

European 'No-Go' Zones for Non-Muslims Proliferating - "Occupation Without Tanks or Soldiers"
Muslim Gangs Enforce Sharia Law in London

France's Less Joyous New Year's Tradition

The overall number of vehicles burned was in line with the 1,147 on the night of Dec. 31, 2009, the last time the government announced the figures. More than 40,000 vehicles are burned each year in France, Mr. Valls said Monday on RTL radio, calling it “an intolerable form of violence against property.” ...

During the autumn 2005 riots that rocked some of Paris’s more volatile suburbs, more than 8,800 cars were burned. At the time, French television censored images of the car-burning so as not to encourage the practice

Losing Malmo

Large percentages of immigrants to Europe reject traditional European values even though they share the land which may eventually be theirs. Native European are on the self-chosen path to extinction, and they will take their values with them.

No Babies?

In the 1990s, European demographers began noticing a downward trend in population across the Continent and behind it a sharply falling birthrate. Non-number-crunchers largely ignored the information until a 2002 study by Italian, German and Spanish social scientists focused the data and gave policy makers across the European Union something to ponder. The figure of 2.1 is widely considered to be the “replacement rate” — the average number of births per woman that will maintain a country’s current population level. At various times in modern history — during war or famine — birthrates have fallen below the replacement rate, to “low” or “very low” levels. But Hans-Peter Kohler, José Antonio Ortega and Francesco Billari — the authors of the 2002 report — saw something new in the data. For the first time on record, birthrates in southern and Eastern Europe had dropped below 1.3. For the demographers, this number had a special mathematical portent. At that rate, a country’s population would be cut in half in 45 years, creating a falling-off-a-cliff effect from which it would be nearly impossible to recover. Kohler and his colleagues invented an ominous new term for the phenomenon: “lowest-low fertility.” ...

In Germany, where the births-to-deaths ratio now results in an annual population loss of roughly 100,000, Ursula von der Leyen, Chancellor Angela Merkel’s family minister (and a mother of seven), declared two years ago that if her country didn’t reverse its plummeting birthrate, “We will have to turn out the light.” Last March, André Rouvoet, the leader of the Christian Union Party in the Netherlands (and a father of five), urged the government to get proactive and spur Dutch women to have more babies. The Canadian conservative Mark Steyn, author of the 2006 best seller “America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It,” has warned his fellow North Americans, whose birthrates are relatively high, that, regarding their European allies, “These countries are going out of business,” and that while at the end of the 21st century there may “still be a geographical area on t

so will this result in a theocratic christian government run by the bible belt?

Europe is in a much bigger danger of something like that than the US. It might take 50 years, but trouble is brewing.

European 'No-Go' Zones for Non-Muslims Proliferating - "Occupation Without Tanks or Soldiers"
Muslim Gangs Enforce Sharia Law in London

France's Less Joyous New Year's Tradition

The overall number of vehicles burned was in line with the 1,147 on the night of Dec. 31, 2009, the last time the government announced the figures. More than 40,000 vehicles are burned each year in France, Mr. Valls said Monday on RTL radio, calling it “an intolerable form of violence against property.” ...

During the autumn 2005 riots that rocked some of Paris’s more volatile suburbs, more than 8,800 cars were burned. At the time, French television censored images of the car-burning so as not to encourage the practice

Losing Malmo

Large percentages of immigrants to Europe reject traditional European values even though they share the land which may eventually be theirs. Native European are on the self-chosen path to extinction, and they will take their values with them.

No Babies?

In the 1990s, European demographers began noticing a downward trend in population across the Continent and behind it a sharply falling birthrate. Non-number-crunchers largely ignored the information until a 2002 study by Italian, German and Spanish social scientists focused the data and gave policy makers across the European Union something to ponder. The figure of 2.1 is widely considered to be the “replacement rate” — the average number of births per woman that will maintain a country’s current population level. At various times in modern history — during war or famine — birthrates have fallen below the replacement rate, to “low” or “very low” levels. But Hans-Peter Kohler, José Antonio Ortega and Francesco Billari — the authors of the 2002 report — saw something new in the data. For the first time on record, birthrates in southern and Eastern Europe had dropped below 1.3. For the demographers, this number had a special mathematical portent. At that rate, a country’s population would be cut in half in 45 years, creating a falling-off-a-cliff effect from which it would be nearly impossible to recover. Kohler and his colleagues invented an ominous new term for the phenomenon: “lowest-low fertility.” ...

In Germany, where the births-to-deaths ratio now results in an annual population loss of roughly 100,000, Ursula von der Leyen, Chancellor Angela Merkel’s family minister (and a mother of seven), declared two years ago that if her country didn’t reverse its plummeting birthrate, “We will have to turn out the light.” Last March, André Rouvoet, the leader of the Christian Union Party in the Netherlands (and a father of five), urged the government to get proactive and spur Dutch women to have more babies. The Canadian conservative Mark Steyn, author of the 2006 best seller “America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It,” has warned his fellow North Americans, whose birthrates are relatively high, that, regarding their European allies, “These countries are going out of business,” and that while at the end of the 21st century there may “still be a geographical area on t

Well... cough.... sorta, mostly.....

Sodomy "For the Sake of Islam"
Al Qaeda Bombers Learn from Drug Smugglers

The Future of Terrorism: What al-Qaida Really Wants

Full text: bin Laden's 'letter to America'

Q2) As for the second question that we want to answer: What are we calling you to, and what do we want from you?

(1) The first thing that we are calling you to is Islam. ...

(2) The second thing we call you to, is to stop your oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you.

(a) We call you to be a people of manners, principles, honour, and purity; to reject the immoral acts of fornication, homosexuality, intoxicants, gambling's, and trading with interest.

We call you to all of this that you may be freed from that which you have become caught up in; that you may be freed from the deceptive lies that you are a great nation, that your leaders spread amongst you to conceal from you the despicable state to which you have reached.

(b) It is saddening to tell you that you are the worst civilization witnessed by the history of mankind:

(i) You are the nation who, rather than ruling by the Shariah of Allah in its Constitution and Laws, choose to invent your own laws as you will and desire. You separate religion from your policies, contradicting the pure nature which affirms Absolute Authority to the Lord and your Creator....

HAMAS Targets Spain

Bonus:
UK: Muslim Gangs Enforce Sharia Law in London
AU: Muslim body wants 'moderate' sharia law but government rejects plan
SE: 'Separate laws for Muslims' idea slammed

They aren't showing the public what "endangered" or whose lives were actually endangered. We are suppose to just believe them.

So what it comes down to is that the only way to convince you that the lives of secret agents are endangered by there being a list of them in the wild is to actually show you the list of secret agents and explain how they are in danger? And everyone in the public needs to be convinced in the same way?

Am I the only one that sees even a tiny problem with that?

The only people I'd have respect for are those who are doing something to stop this shit. David Miranda, Julian Assage, Chelsea (Bradley) Manning, rebels, terrorists, and others.

So your sympathies are literally with the terrorists? What could possibly go wrong?

Would you care for a lifetime supply of bus tickets?

If it does endanger lives. Well- good. Maybe it'll teach people working for the government is dangerous and stupid. Putting your life in danger for money is not a bright move.

So you are for terrorists and want the lives of government officials endangered? You seem to have an endless supply of bad ideas. Maybe you're ready for a lifestyle change?

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Thomas Jefferson was an American revolutionary. While you seem very keen on spilling the blood of patriots and tyrants, you aren't really addressing the real issue. In fact, as far as I recall you just completely ignore or try to assume it away every time it comes up. The problem involves this lot, and their brethren:

At Least 4,000 Suspected of Terrorism-Related Activity in Britain, MI5 Director Says
Muslim Gangs Enforce Sharia Law in London

They have been actively plotting attacks, and used other means as well, to try to force their way of life on ordinary Britons. There have been many arrests and convictions in the UK as a result. A sample:

Bomb plot: Life sentence for Irfan Naseer, ringleader of Birmingham men planning wave of UK suicide attacks
London terror bomb plot: the four terrorists
7/7 London Attacks

Some of those cretins are quite willing to spill not just the blood of patriots and tyrants, but the blood of innocents as well. This has been amply demonstrated in Russia, Afghanistan, and other places.

Russia school siege toll tops 350
Acid attacks, poison: What Afghan girls risk by going to school

Although you may think it wrong, the surveillance by GCHQ is a meaningful part of the security services efforts to protect ordinary Britons. You don't offer anything to replace it.

Waving your hands and saying no system is perfect isn't helpful. Polemics against the monarchy in a story on the UK are misplaced, and overthrowing the monarchy does nothing to protect Britons. What would you do to replace the surveillance to keep British subjects from harm? If your answer is something along the lines of, "Don't cause offense to the rest of the world. Pull back into a shell." then you have just demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of the problem. The ideology of the extremists is an aggressive one; they mean to take over the world even if it takes 1,000 years. So we come to the question again: what would you do to prevent British schools and football stadiums from being drenched in blood, besides advocating the overthrow of the monarchy, which is in no way helpful at all?

Why does it matter if someone is a "us person"? Fuck off spying on me America.

I doubt "they" are spying on you so much as spying on the people around you that HM government are watching, concerned about, and which emerge from the population segment that will constitute a rapidly growing percentage of the population unless native Britons begin having children again.

Labour wanted mass immigration to make UK more multicultural, says former adviser
7 July 2005 London bombings
At Least 4,000 Suspected of Terrorism-Related Activity in Britain, MI5 Director Says - A few years old, but I doubt it has changed much.
MI5 warns al-Qaida regaining UK toehold after Arab spring
What do British Muslims think of the UK?
Muslim Gangs Enforce Sharia Law in London
2066: White Britons will be in the minority in UK
The British women converting to Islam
David Cameron studies plans for multi-faith Lords - ... where Muslim imams could sit alongside Anglican and Catholic bishops.

I suspect that the future Troubles will leave people pining for the old Troubles unless these portents change. Of course if you like goat, and prefer your women veiled, it may not be all bad. Of course singing Jerusalem will likely be considered "offensive" at some point.

The exact phrase I used was: "would be genocidal Iranian regime"

Evidence?

UN chief denounces Iran to its face over calls to destroy Israel
Iran Steps Up Threats to Rub Out Israel

At present they lack the means, such as working nuclear weapons, not the desire. I have to say that I find it astonishing that this might somehow be news to you. It is a fairly widely held goal in the region.

The Jews Were Brought to Palestine for the Great Massacre
Hamas video: Killing Jews is 'worship that draws us close to Allah'
Judgment Day - When the Muslims Kill the Jews

After all, the book by you-know-who is disgustingly popular in certain circles among kindred spirits.

Cut-rate 'Mein Kampf' sells well in Turkey, spurring concerns
Mein Kampf in pride of place on bookshop shelves
Their Kampf - Hitler’s book in Arab hands

Unrelated, but since I have your attention - I expect these topics percolate at the back of your mind:

Jenin: Palestinian Myth Machine
Goldstone: Fighting the Lies Harder Than Fighting the War

As is common in this matter, you have things badly confused. Israel did nothing to Iran to deserve they way the new Iranian government turned on them. If you think otherwise, please provide a list. One hint to reduce the chances of you going down the wrong path again: the Palestinians are not Iranian, and the Iranians are not Arabs.

As to "untermenschen," that would be the view of post-revolution Iranian government, and many Arabs living in Palestine.

Reading Mein Kampf in Tehran

On Monday, the Iranian Foreign Ministry held an international conference. Nothing unusual in that: Foreign ministries hold conferences, mostly dull ones, all the time. But this one was different. For one, "Review of the Holocaust: Global Vision" dealt with history, not current politics. Instead of the usual suspects — deputy ministers and the like — the invitees seem to have included David Duke, a former Ku Klux Klan leader; Georges Theil, a Frenchman who has called the Holocaust "an enormous lie"; and Fredrick Toeben, a German-born Australian whose specialty is the denial of Nazi gas chambers.

The guest list was selective: No one with any academic eminence, or indeed any scholarly credentials, was invited. One Palestinian scholar, Khaled Mahameed, was asked to come but then barred because he holds an Israeli passport — and also perhaps because he, unlike other guests, believes that the Holocaust really did happen.

In response, Europe, America, and Israel expressed official outrage. The German government, to its credit, organized a counter-conference. ...

Hamas video: Killing Jews is 'worship that draws us close to Allah'
The Jews Were Brought to Palestine for the Great Massacre

As to the rest, you should catch up on some reading and get back to me.

UN agency stops aid imports to Gaza, cites Hamas 'thefts'
Looters strip Gaza greenhouses
Gazans seethe over taxes and blackouts
Sewage flood causes Gaza deaths
Hamas Bulldozes UN-Designated Historical Site to Make Room for Terrorist Training Camp
In Gaza, Hamas rule has not turned out as many expected
Rights watchdog accuses Hamas of torture, abuse of Palestinians
Hamas accused of routine torture of detainees in Gaza Strip
Palestinian Authority: Still Stealing "Hundreds of Millions," Hamas Taking Over
NY Times ignores Gaza's millionaires, hypes poverty, blames Israel (natch)

According to reports in the Arab press, a thriving smuggling economy in Gaza has produced no fewer than 600 millionaires. Hundreds of tunnels to Egypt have become bustling export and import conduits -- with the ruling Hamas elite siphoning off milli

Maybe launching destructive malware at Iranian infrastructure wasn't such a good idea.

If you are referring to "stuxnet," it wasn't launched against the Iranian infrastructure, but against Iran's nuclear program, which includes clandestine work on nuclear weapons.

Iran nuclear report: IAEA claims Tehran working on advanced warhead

I you think that Iran's behavior with just software is disagreeable, I don't think you want to see them with nuclear weapons.

UN chief denounces Iran to its face over calls to destroy Israel
'Cancerous tumour' Israel will soon be destroyed, says Ahmadinejad

Israel’s existence is an “insult to all humanity,” Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Friday, in one of his sharpest attacks yet against the Jewish state, which is currently debating whether to attack Iran over its nuclear program.

AFP - Israel is a "cancerous tumour" that will soon be finished off, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Friday told demonstrators holding an annual protest against the existence of the Jewish state.

"The Zionist regime and the Zionists are a cancerous tumour. Even if one cell of them is left in one inch of (Palestinian) land, in the future this story (of Israel's existence) will repeat," he said in a speech in Tehran marking Iran's Quds Day that was broadcast on state television.

"The nations of the region will soon finish off the usurper Zionists in the Palestinian land.... A new Middle East will definitely be formed. With the grace of God and help of the nations, in the new Middle East there will be no trace of the Americans and Zionists," he said.

Iran Steps Up Threats to Rub Out Israel

The main factor behind the upsurge in threats is the Iranian state-sponsored celebration of its annihilation policy towards Israel, which occurs on the fourth and last Friday of Ramadan every year.

The event is called "Al-Quds (Jerusalem) Day," and involves mass rallies, speeches by Iranian leaders, chants of "Death to Israel," and placards bearing the same intent. Last week, Khamenei described Israel as a "cancerous tumor" and "the biggest problem confronting Muslim countries today," according to Iranian media reports.

"Many of the Islamic world's problems come from the existence of the sham Zionist regime," Khamenei added, in comments that are reminiscent of traditional anti-Semitic comments that could be heard everywhere before the Holocaust. . .

Also last week, Brig.- Gen. Gholamreza Jalali, who heads Iran's Passive Civil Defense Organization and is a former commander of the Revolutionary Guards, said there was "no other option but to destroy Israel."

Nuclear weapons have a form of "blow back" all their own due to the intense blast effects. Iran may discover this, as well as other disagreeable forms, if it continues down its present course.

The present circumstances are all the sadder given that Israel and Iran were once allies, until the Islamic revolution in 1979. After that, Iran declared Israel an enemy to be destroyed. The current bad relationship filled with Iran's barely veiled threats of genocide is entirely Iran's choice. Israel did nothing to deserve it.

Why can't we be more like Norway?

A year after Breivik's massacre, Norway tightens antiterror laws

The prosecutor actually shook hands with Brevik because that's how they always do it and the hell some mass murdering bastard is going to make them give in and change their ways for the worse.

You have a rather special understanding of things if you think taking action to prevent the future murder of people enjoying the Queen's peace in Britain is somehow making things worse. Or is it that you are reacting in fear?

Will you welcome a new overlord from a foreign land if they simply offer you peace for submission?

Slashdot should stop the Iran bashing already

So, when the Iranian government imposes yet another new repressive measure to build on its existing repressive measures against the Iranian people that result in death, mutilation, torture, and other atrocities, your concern is that people on Slashdot don't criticize - don't say harsh things against the Iranian government? I think there is a word for that, Mr. Liberty.

If you think the Iranian government is for peace, you aren't listening carefully.

All Iran is saying,
is give cutting people into pieces a chance.

Iranian Women Prisoners Detail Torture

Iran as continual regional menace
Iran's Menace in Azerbaijan
15,000 Elite Iranian special-ops 'head' to Syria ---- Iran confirms it has forces in Syria ...
Gulf states lash out at Iran 'interference'

The six members of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) said in a statement that Tehran's actions were threatening regional security and stability.
The GCC said it "rejects and denounces" Iran's "continued interference" in their internal affairs and Tehran must "immediately and completely stop these actions and policies that increase regional tension and threaten security and stability".

Iranian Bomb Suspects 'Targeted' Israelis, Thai Police Say
Report: Turkey thwarts Iran weapons shipment to Hezbollah
      Why Hezbollah is sitting on 40,000 rockets and missiles ...
            Iran and Hezbollah: The Balance of Power Shifts in Lebanon
Afghanistan war logs: Iran's covert operations in Afghanistan
Iran Steps Up Threats to Rub Out Israel

Discussing the record of Iran's actions and behavior doesn't constitutes "warmongering."

WW I was based on the assassination of a single individual.

Not to mention the war for Jenkins's ear, when England went to war because a Spanish captain was accused of cutting off the ear of an English captain something like a decade earlier...

Or the Napoleonic wars, which destroyed several countries in the name of bringing freedom to people living under dictatorships...

Or al-Qaeda's war in Mali, which Europe financed (second source)...

Or the ongoing war against the Jews, which Europe is funding (as is the US)....

Europeans might say that it's not really war if they are paying someone else to fight a war in another country outside of Europe, but that does not explain Europe's support for the war against the Serbs in Yugoslavia, in which NATO helpfully bombed the forces of secular Yugoslavia -- including those of the liberal Muslim co-governor of Bosnia -- on behalf of an alliance of Croatia's Nazi party and a Muslim force organized by Osama bin Laden... and then they did it again in Kosovo, which had been majority-Serb since medieval times and is now down to about 10% Serb due to the war.

Europe is far from innocent, including modern Europe.

Endemic Corruption - How your American tax dollars are spent by Israel.

Fascinating. And you know this how?

You're assuming that those jets were not ones the Israelis purchased? Do you have any grounds for that?

Were these jet engines stolen at an American Air Force base due to "endemic corruption," or the activity of simple thieves?
HAFB THIEVES CANNOT SET THE VALUE OF 3 STOLEN JET ENGINES, SAYS JUDGE

Do you have equal concerns about Venezuela and Iran? Or just the Jewish state?

Do you think Israel is less corrupt, as corrupt, or more corrupt than Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the Palestinian Authority, all of whom receive large amounts of US aid?

Speaking of endemic:
Rising Anti-Semitism on the Left
The European Left and Its Trouble With Jews
The Full-Blown Return of Anti-Semitism in Europe

Even if we assume that all of Israel's neighbors want to wipe it off the face of the Earth, none of these neighbors currently have nuclear weapons. Israel already has the best military force in the Middle East.

Israel is a country of just under 8 million people on a sliver of land so small that at the shortest point it is only 20 miles across.

There are approximately 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, and they are taught the following according to the traditions of Islam and the sayings of the Prophet Mohammed (PBUH):

Islam and antisemitism

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews , when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).Sahih Muslim, 41:6985, see also Sahih Muslim, 41:6981, Sahih Muslim, 41:6982, Sahih Muslim, 41:6983, Sahih Muslim, 41:6984, Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:56:791,(Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:177)

”This hadith has been quoted countless times, and it has become a part of the charter of Hamas.[54]

Think about that, approximately 25% of the world's population is taught that at the end of days, all Jews will be, must be killed. And some of them are eager to bring about the end of days, such as the Iranians with their cult of the Hidden Imam. There are Muslims all over the world who will live and die without ever meeting a Jew, yet they will be steadfast in "knowing" Jews are "despicable", and "worthy of death". And don't forget that the "Islamic bomb" already exists, and sits upon Pakistani missiles - Pakistan, the explicitly Islamic nation carved out of India.

In the near term, Israel is surrounded by around 100,000,000 Arabs, many of whom would like to see Israel and the Jews gone. Many of them are oil rich states that can now, as opposed to 1947, afford to buy the best military hardware on the planet - things too expensive for the nations where they were created even.

Just to defend against the 12:1* odds of the Arabs they have to be the best, forever. How realistic is that? Now add in 1.5 billion Muslims from other regions? The odds are decidedly not in Israel's favor. Now add in major shifts in population in the area not favorable to Israel?

There are still Israelis living with direct memories of genocide directed against them, and they know a second is planned. Would you like to trade places?

We haven't even touched on European anti-semitism, which is on the rise again.

* 12:1 is being generous - Israel is only 75% Jewish, and many in Israel are exempt from the draft - both Jews and non-Jews.

It takes generations to remove hate from a culture, but it only takes a few years to generate it.

Assuming it ever really leaves. . .

The Full-Blown Return of Anti-Semitism in Europe
The New Anti-Semitism
Is Toulouse the Future of Europe?

If you dont think hate is being generated here in the USA by "news channel talk show hosts" or "radio talk show hosts", then you havent been paying attention.

The problem is bigger than you think.

The problem grows in Finland and Denmark: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3080/finland-iranian-mega-mosque