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Maybe you didn't know, but Cleese's father actually changed his surname from Cheese to Cleese before signing up for the army in World War I. Interesting how these things work out :)

"Well, stout yeoman, four ounces of Caerphilly, if you please."

yeah baby! Firefox shags IE again!

I doubt I would be able to run this version of XP here, or afford it if I could buy a copy legally. My idea is to run as good an OS as one can on older hardware, and to run several on each box.
It can be a challenge to set each OS up, but gives me an idea of what can be expected.
Also not sure if installing this form of XP, (if it would) could foul up what I already have. I'm using a 500 MB MSDOS primary HDD, and a 2 GB Caviar secondary HDD (with SuSE). The MSDOS drive has a menu, and SuSE is selected from that using Loadlin. The MSDOS drive has the personal configs for both LiveCD Linux's.

I've always felt model six on the following page is a much better explanation. Being hosted on geocities it may be limited time only... http://www.geocities.com/deathcommando.geo/ls.htm

There used to be an excellent page with possible models by which light sabres could work. It has since shut down, but here is the relevant text. Model six is good, if a bit speculative. Being hosted on geocities it may be limited time only... http://www.geocities.com/deathcommando.geo/ls.htm

The first thing I enter in the filter list for Adblock is this adblock filterset.

AFAIK, the OBD-II requirement involves exclusivly emmissions related data. It's not about allowing vehicle owners to fix their own vehicles or any other purpose.

I'm new to working on the sofware (was doing hardware for the last year) and currently only fiddling around with ISO 9141-2 communication, so your post got me thinking. Had to do a little research. I wasn't able to find the text of the law, but I did find an online post about what codes are covered by OBD II, here.

IIRC, the whole OBD II thing was about keeping dealerships from having a monopoly on scancodes. Each manufacturer has their own specific data (which is usually called "enhanced" data), but they have to make even that available to scan tool makers for fair competition. And you have to be able to get at it through an OBDII port somehow.

We have 2 database guys who do nothing but translate this data into a useable form. Some manufacturers make it easy...and some don't. But they all comply with the law, and the manufacturer-specific stuff winds up in there eventually, as well as the generic OBDII stuff defined in J1978 aka ISO 15031-4, AFAIK.

People have been consuming apple tablets for years, so how can this patent survive a prior art challenge?

I'm a sci-fi author who's jealous of Firefly's resurrection, because I know how to write sci-fi scripts, but I sure as hell don't know how to draw attention to them. Speaking of which, I post my series of sci-fi anime scripts at my web-site http://www.geocities.com/radiomovie2002/

My point: For every one sci-fi show idea that gets produced, there are hundreds more whose scripts go unnoticed. Firefly was EXTREMELY lucky to even get produced, and even more lucky to get resurrected, and because I'm a starving sci-fi anime writer whose scripts still need to be noticed (you can read them at http://www.geocities.com/radiomovie2002/ ), I am EXTREMELY envious.

Lucky Firefly.

Bah humbug.

I'm a sci-fi author who's jealous of Firefly's resurrection, because I know how to write sci-fi scripts, but I sure as hell don't know how to draw attention to them. Speaking of which, I post my series of sci-fi anime scripts at my web-site http://www.geocities.com/radiomovie2002/

My point: For every one sci-fi show idea that gets produced, there are hundreds more whose scripts go unnoticed. Firefly was EXTREMELY lucky to even get produced, and even more lucky to get resurrected, and because I'm a starving sci-fi anime writer whose scripts still need to be noticed (you can read them at http://www.geocities.com/radiomovie2002/ ), I am EXTREMELY envious.

Lucky Firefly.

Bah humbug.

I saw some one here had a sig line that says it all:

" WinCE + WinME + WinNT = WinCEMENT "

http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/

Hello, Amazing Magic Cyber Camera!

Um, not really:
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Node/408 1/jesux.html

Well there is Jesux. A christian Linux distro.

GUI screenshots.
http://www.aci.com.pl/mwichary/guidebook/interface s

Englebart's famous 1968 demo.
http://sloan.stanford.edu/MouseSite/1968Demo.html

Acorn Archimedes GUI
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~lrtc/computers/acorn_ro/ acorn/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/A225785

Knowledge Navigator.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_navigator

Apple II GS
http://applemuseum.bott.org/sections/computers/IIg s.html

BeBox
http://www.bebox.nu/history.php

8-1/2: The Plan 9 Window system
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sys/doc/8%BD/8%BD.pdf

Genera
http://www.geocities.com/mparker762/toys.html

Video Interviews of Early Pioneers
http://www.invisiblerevolution.net/

GUI News
http://interfacelift.com/news/

ZUI's
http://www.cs.umd.edu/hcil/piccolo/applications/in dex.shtml

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Not after Bruce explains the rules to them, at least...

And if you don't want to mess with the filters yourself, these are pretty decent. Is anyone else publishing a set of good AdBlock filters? I thought it would be a pretty popular thing to do.

I am offering http://www.geocities.com/totierne/FreeTuition.html . Aside from the code for dole aspects, how do novice programmers become productive OSS coders. I have 10 years commercial experience, I intend to get newbies started on mini projects and familier with tools (CVS, wiki, mailing lists, python/java/c++) and then get them connected to more established projects, what is the route/jump from newbie to productive submitter, and does the way need to be signposted?

You're half wrong because of the fact that government regulation can kill even the most resolute investment in private space launch capability.

As to the other half, I'll say that at the end of my political activism, I held your belief -- that NASA had demonstrated so clearly its incompetence that there really was no problem with NASA competing with the private sector. The question then became:

Why is private capital so "irresolute"?

Its then that I came to understand the structural problem with modern capitalism: capital welfare.

Basically, capital concentrations are given free protection by the government while capital creation is taxed. That's when I wrote up my last legislative proposal, a net asset tax with citizen's dividend to replace other taxes and government programs -- passing it around for a feedback from various interest groups.

The reaction convinced me that there was no hope, short of the collapse of civilization, or pioneering escape from socioeconomic ossification, of correcting the character flaw of investors created by capital welfare. That left just one option: Try to get NASA to stop scaring off character-flawed capital concentrations created by entrenched economic policy.

The fact that there are capital concentrations such as Paul Allen, Jeff Bezos, et al, now providing funding for private spece activities is significant consolation but it is far from enough to counter the damage caused by capital welfare. We're way behind the curve.

Because, despite your mis-interpretation of "survival of the fittest", that kind of behaviour is actually quite detrimental to passing on genes than altruism and cooperation. It is not "survival of the fittest" but rather survival of those organisms more able to adapt to change in the environment.

You are far more likey to have food, shelter, and safety if you cooperate with your neighbours and kin than if you bully them or kill them. It may seem to work in the short term, but eventually the social system breaks down and these genes do not survive - you are not able to reproduce or protect the children you do create (or the children of your kins). Check out The Evolution of Cooperation. Paul Tobin has a good summary here with a very good summary. This is also a tenant of Game Theory as well.

No, despite your attempts to argue from fear and ignorance, living the "survival of the fittest" that you describe is not how evolution works and is actually not the best strategy for survival of the genes - cooperation, altruism and acting in a moral and ethic manner are. That is why most people are genuinely good and why, despite our incredible numbers on the earth, we AREN'T killing and raping each other on a daily basis.

Acting that way is natural and I don't need a "God" to give me morality or force me to obey rules on the threat of eternal torture. I can just act they way I know from millions of years of biological evolution, is the "right" way.

Because, despite your mis-interpretation of "survival of the fittest", that kind of behaviour is actually quite detrimental to passing on genes than altruism and cooperation. It is not "survival of the fittest" but rather survival of those organisms more able to adapt to change in the environment.

You are far more likey to have food, shelter, and safety if you cooperate with your neighbours and kin than if you bully them or kill them. It may seem to work in the short term, but eventually the social system breaks down and these genes do not survive - you are not able to reproduce or protect the children you do create (or the children of your kins). Check out The Evolution of Cooperation. Paul Tobin has a good summary here with a very good summary. This is also a tenant of Game Theory as well.

No, despite your attempts to argue from fear and ignorance, living the "survival of the fittest" that you describe is not how evolution works and is actually not the best strategy for survival of the genes - cooperation, altruism and acting in a moral and ethic manner are. That is why most people are genuinely good and why, despite our incredible numbers on the earth, we AREN'T killing and raping each other on a daily basis.

Acting that way is natural and I don't need a "God" to give me morality or force me to obey rules on the threat of eternal torture. I can just act they way I know from millions of years of biological evolution, is the "right" way.

My experience with Truax was to get him to cross the street (literally) and meet with Ron Packard -- the congressman who sponsored the Launch Services Purchase Act of 1990. The LSPA was signed into law. I testified before Congress on follow-up legislation for commercial incentives. While in Washington DC, I met with Dana Rohrabacher and told him of Truax's desire to do a trans-Pacific rocket-delivery system for over-night "FedEx" type services based on a scaled down version of the Sea Dragon -- and indicated the commercial incentives legislation could clear the way for private funding by removing the threat of government competition. Rohrabacher then initiated the DC-X program within his district, which was government funded. I happened to be present at a meeting between a group of investors and a private launch service company (intending on commercializing the MX-missile's production lines for launch services) the day the DC-X funding was announced. The investors decided not to bother competing with the government's deep pockets and terminated the meeting upon hearing the announcement. The potential of DC-X to create new "FedEx-like" services across the Pacific was mentioned in the press.

Hasn't the space shuttle program done enough damage to the pioneering heritage of the US already?

First, NASA delivers a space transportation system with a cost per lb to leo that is an order of magnitude higher than it promised.

Then, NASA stomps out private investment in launch service companies because it would dilute the monopoly value of the bad technology NASA produced.

Then when grassroots space enthusiasts try to get NASA to stop stomping out privately financed space transportation companies, and passed legislation requiring NASA to follow the Reagan policy of purchasing commercial launch services whenever possible, NASA thumbs its nose at the taxpayers most interested in space and launches the Advanced Communications Technology Satellite via the Shuttle.

Then when grassroots space enthusiasts, totally fed up with NASA's lawlessness and detemination to destroy the pioneering spirit of the US, start offering their own launch technology prizes, NASA waits until one of them embarrasses it before providing even lip-service to the prize award concept.

Finally, a private entrepreneur is offering $50 million of his own money as an incentive for other private investors to create a de facto replacement for the Space Shuttle* and NASA responds by trying to pump taxpayer money into the same good old boy network that has so effectively destroyed hope among pioneering peoples that they can embark on a new age of exploration to escape the burgeoning bureaucracies that proclaim themselves the hope of mankind while destroying its spirit.

Kill NASA before it kills the human spirit.

*An exploding myth.

Hasn't the space shuttle program done enough damage to the pioneering heritage of the US already?

First, NASA delivers a space transportation system with a cost per lb to leo that is an order of magnitude higher than it promised.

Then, NASA stomps out private investment in launch service companies because it would dilute the monopoly value of the bad technology NASA produced.

Then when grassroots space enthusiasts try to get NASA to stop stomping out privately financed space transportation companies, and passed legislation requiring NASA to follow the Reagan policy of purchasing commercial launch services whenever possible, NASA thumbs its nose at the taxpayers most interested in space and launches the Advanced Communications Technology Satellite via the Shuttle.

Then when grassroots space enthusiasts, totally fed up with NASA's lawlessness and detemination to destroy the pioneering spirit of the US, start offering their own launch technology prizes, NASA waits until one of them embarrasses it before providing even lip-service to the prize award concept.

Finally, a private entrepreneur is offering $50 million of his own money as an incentive for other private investors to create a de facto replacement for the Space Shuttle* and NASA responds by trying to pump taxpayer money into the same good old boy network that has so effectively destroyed hope among pioneering peoples that they can embark on a new age of exploration to escape the burgeoning bureaucracies that proclaim themselves the hope of mankind while destroying its spirit.

Kill NASA before it kills the human spirit.

*An exploding myth.

It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.

What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:

* Linus Torvalds is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
* Richard M. Stallman, spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
* Alan Cox is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.

I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.

Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail, which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'

As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.

And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo slut!

Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children. To quote from the article linked:

'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'

Is this why you were touching your penis [rotten.com] in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?

We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.

Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.

In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The Slackware distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse, a reference to the homosexual practice of

The problem though comes from a friend who doesn't have the money for cable or Satelite

Can he afford to buy books? How about going to the library?

Want to know where to start? Try The Internet Top 100 SF/Fantasy List. Some of it is heavy (Dune by Herbert) other stuff is lighter (Discworld series by Pratchett).

Enjoy.

In America, yes. Anyone that thinks otherwise has no understanding of what real inequality looks like

Oh, really? How many female presidents have we had? How many non-white presidents? How about the governor of New Jersery, who was forced to abdicate because he was gay?

I can only think of two places where you are likely to be age tracked, and spend all your time with large groups of people your own age: the military, and prison. The age tracking isn't deliberate in those institutions, but there are some other parallels.

Socialization is what happens in society. Adults spend most of their time either at a job, working individually or in small groups, then they go home to their families. School takes kids out of society, into an artificial environment which has more in common with a prison than the real world. School prevents socialization. Remember that the Columbine killers were ``socialized'' in one of the public, warehouse schools.

The Moores (see ``When Education Becomes Abuse: A Different Look at the Mental Health of Children'') did some research (see ``School Can Wait") in the 1970s which showed that putting children into a school environment before about age 12 caused no end of pathologies. They became peer-dependent, they became alienated from their parents, they learned to hate anyone who wasn't a member of their group, and on and on.

Most homeschooled children I've met are taught by parents who want to isolate them from what the parents see as harmful influences in public schools.

What sort of irresponsible parent wouldn't? The Moores' work shows that simply sending your kids to a ``good'' school can do them harm. The fact that there are metal detectors at the door and armed guards in the halls and a lot of violence in spite of all that shouldn't worry me, I suppose? Should I get my kids a bunch of snuff movies and kiddie porn so they don't grow up ``sheltered''? Have you done that for your kids?

That's not to say they're [homeschooling parents] all xenophobic extremist zealots, but the majority are.

I'm afraid that I've never met an extremist zealot who homeschooled, and I've met hundreds of homeschooling families over the years. Unless you simply mean ``parents who want to shelter their kids until they're mature enough to take care of themselves''. If that's what you mean, I'm proud to be a xenophobic extremist zealot.

I can only think of two places where you are likely to be age tracked, and spend all your time with large groups of people your own age: the military, and prison. The age tracking isn't deliberate in those institutions, but there are some other parallels.

Socialization is what happens in society. Adults spend most of their time either at a job, working individually or in small groups, then they go home to their families. School takes kids out of society, into an artificial environment which has more in common with a prison than the real world. School prevents socialization. Remember that the Columbine killers were ``socialized'' in one of the public, warehouse schools.

The Moores (see ``When Education Becomes Abuse: A Different Look at the Mental Health of Children'') did some research (see ``School Can Wait") in the 1970s which showed that putting children into a school environment before about age 12 caused no end of pathologies. They became peer-dependent, they became alienated from their parents, they learned to hate anyone who wasn't a member of their group, and on and on.

Most homeschooled children I've met are taught by parents who want to isolate them from what the parents see as harmful influences in public schools.

What sort of irresponsible parent wouldn't? The Moores' work shows that simply sending your kids to a ``good'' school can do them harm. The fact that there are metal detectors at the door and armed guards in the halls and a lot of violence in spite of all that shouldn't worry me, I suppose? Should I get my kids a bunch of snuff movies and kiddie porn so they don't grow up ``sheltered''? Have you done that for your kids?

That's not to say they're [homeschooling parents] all xenophobic extremist zealots, but the majority are.

I'm afraid that I've never met an extremist zealot who homeschooled, and I've met hundreds of homeschooling families over the years. Unless you simply mean ``parents who want to shelter their kids until they're mature enough to take care of themselves''. If that's what you mean, I'm proud to be a xenophobic extremist zealot.

The correct way to spend such money is demonstrated by the Ansari X-Prize, the Bowery/CATS prize and the fusion prize legislation submitted by Robert W. Bussard to Congress. All of these set forth operational technical criteria for the award before it is known who will win the prize. It make it far harder for politicians posing as scientists and technologists to steal the credit and money due others.

The correct way to spend such money is demonstrated by the Ansari X-Prize, the Bowery/CATS prize and the fusion prize legislation submitted by Robert W. Bussard to Congress. All of these set forth operational technical criteria for the award before it is known who will win the prize. It make it far harder for politicians posing as scientists and technologists to steal the credit and money due others.

http://www.geocities.com/pierceive/adblock/

If there are no negative health effects, then what's the big deal? I can't understand why making ourselves better in these kinds of ways is in any way bad. . This anti-human-improvement sentiment that goes around whenever anything like this is announced reminds me of Vonnegut's Story about 2081 where everyone is finally equal.

IMHO, I see it as a deeper cultural trend that originally started with Frankenstein. With every technological improvement, especially if it is augmenting human capability people are expecting some sort of Daedalus ironic ending. It's in a lot of sci-fi movies. Think Jurassic Park, Andromeda Strain, Terminator, The Matrix.

I believe the traditional reply at this point is: "Fine, fossils can form relatively quickly, but the rocks you find them in can't."

Not being a geologist, I wouldn't know. Some of the geologists present care to elaborate?

If you presuppose an infinitely powerful being, evolution seems like so much wasted effort.

most of our clients are now asking questions that require approximate or probabilistic answers

Bioinformatics databases are a good example of this. DNA and protein sequence databases are often searched by approximate string-matching algorithms based on "dynamic programming" to hidden Markov models and other stochastic grammars.

Historically, drug target-hunters in Big Pharma created a market for accelerated hardware to facilitate dynamic programming searches, some of which (e.g. Paracel's Fast Data Finder chip) was originally marketed to government agencies who, um, shared an interest in approximate string-matching ;)

This is a good place to start:

http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/manufall.html/

Living organisms. We can look at living organisms and see that they are incredibly complex, with well-designed, interdependent parts, each aspect far beyond our own human ability to understand fully, let alone duplicate. Each living thing is governed and energized by the information-loaded DNA molecule, consisting of myriads of genes and proteins of intense precision, each doing its job and each depending on the other to do its job. Evolutionists say it all happened in a step-by-step sequence by a totally random process. Creationists say it was designed.

Well, this is the whole arguement. What is your point? Evolution has a great deal of observed evidence on how this happened over billions of years. You think it looks designed, but provide no evidence for a designer. Ironically, you think that way because humans evolved tha ability to recognize patterns as a survival technique. Sometimes they see patterns where none exist (think "Backward masking" on records...). Creationist have an idea without supporting evidence.

Mutations. Never has a truly beneficial mutation been observed, a random alteration which produces a new and better gene. Creation teaches that there shouldn't be, evolutionists assure us there have been billions and billions, but they are still looking for an example. What is needed is new and increased information in the DNA information code, but all science can show is that over time information is lost in such a system. Creationists point to the never-violated Second Law of Thermodynamics--the scientific law of increasing disorder over time--while evolutionists continue to maintain that certain chemical reactions produce order that changes ameba-to-man. This spontaneous generation has long ago been disproved, but evolutionists say it happened at least once. (But they were not there.)

I suggest next time you are sick, that you go to a hospital in Montreal. You will experience mutation first hand by the name of C. defacile, a bacterium that has mutated to become anti-boitic resistant. This has happened within the last 80 years. That's about as closed to observed as one can get. All the others can be see in the fossil record. For more info check here
or here for the debunking of the other miss-information in this one.

Transitional links. The fossil record is overflowing with "gaps"--no organisms bridging the span between basic categories have ever been found. Creationists say such organisms never existed, and there shouldn't be any transitional fossils. Evolutionists explain this lack of transitional links away by punctuated equilibrium (evolution happened faster at different times during these transitional link periods) and hope to find them someday.

Ah yes the old "God of the Gaps" argument. Seems no matter how many times transitional fossils are found, creationist always revert to the "what about the transition between those?" recursive argument. Like this:

1980: Early Fossil ----->Transitional -------> Later Fossil

What about between the first and the transition?

1990: Early Fossil ---> Trans 1 ----> Trans2 -----> Later Fossil

What about between trans1 and trans2?

Thanks to Calculus, this arguement can go on forever. God is always in the gaps, not matter how small the gaps are. It still isn't evidence.

Evolutionists spend great effort to propose mathematical models for the Big Bang. The evidence consists of varied points of light that don't move, that change only when they destroy themselves. Never do we see stars evolving from gas. Evolutionists, in order to save their mathematical models, propose imaginary cold, dark matter comprising 90% of the mass of

Sheep revolt? It has already begun, comrades SheepAgainstHumans.

Kirk gets it almost every episode

If by "almost every episode" you mean "three times in the entire Trek canon", then yes.

I'm not a student of Trollology, but this document might prove useful to aspiring trolls. If anyone besides them has the patience to read the whole damn thing (I don't), I'm sure they'll learn a lot about spotting trolls.

You might also want to check out This Guy and find out what vader is really thinking.

One gets even less time if you happen to be a rep or senator.

Average citizen steals a movie, goes to jail for 3 years.

Senator/Representative with a known history of piss poor driving? 100 days in jail.

"According to police, Janklow was behind the wheel of his Cadillac on August 16 when he ran a stop sign at a rural intersection about 10 miles south of Flandreau. Scott, who was riding his motorcycle home from his father-in-law's 80th birthday party, crashed into the side of Janklow's car and was killed."

http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/01/22/janklow.sentenci ng/

http://www.geocities.com/hrlygator10/Anti-JanklowP roject.html

In which case, it's time for a new political party!

Just 2 contradictory points, on the one hand:

1/I think free software should be run for developers and the real advantage of newbies is that they may become developers, one should restrict costly help (i.e. time) to newbies that are unlikely to become developers. If help can scale (for example answers on the web for lots of newbies can gain from) that should be encouraged.

On the other hand:

2/Vendor drivers for linux are encouraged by the volume of users, or are drivers mostly made available by developers, perhaps even internal vendor developers, so even here 1 still holds a lot of weight.

An elitest attitude, but only if software developers consider themselves elite, rather than just another specialty, or just another club. Do plumbers encourage people generally to do plumbing, do doctors encourage people generally to do medicine?

I suppose one should remember that clubs are run for the benefit of current members or contributors, helping new members who may not contribute much and may be more likely to leave the club depends on whether that eats up other resources.

Having a barrier to entry such as repartitioning ones hard drive after playing with live CDs may not be such a bad thing. An initial barrier to entry sorts out who are potential future contributors rather than those who will be more passive members of the linux club.

This can be regarded in defiance of the many eyes credo. I am just saying that encouraging or trying to over encourage general use of linux may not help linux, so tell people that options exist sure, even help them for a fee, but do not expect the masses to automatically become contributors, from new software to maintainers to bug reporters, to the free software pool.

[oops went over my 2 point limit, or was that 2 slightly contrary points followed by several fudges to make me believe I am not completely evil]

I am just wondering if my offer for free tuition http://www.geocities.com/totierne to help people become contributors is a step forward, maybe the real contributors will be self starting, and the ones that need help will always need help. Just talking against myself.

It all depends on context, the bigger picture.

There are several cases of airliners ditching without complete loss of life.

An Ethiopian Airlines 767, for instance, where 52 of 175 survived,

Scroll down to see a 737 looking very intact after ditching on a river. 60 crew and passengers, 1 died (of drowning in the river).

• GmBaAp (a GTK-based editor for Linux).
• GBA Map Editor (another GTK-based editor).
• Tile Max (Java-based, works under Linux).
• Mappy (Windows only, but works under WINE).

There are plenty of applications for Win64 - See http://www.geocities.com/masonralph/win64.htm

One thing I forgot to add to my previous post was that I also use the AdBlock extension for Firefox. Check out this site http://www.geocities.com/pierceive/adblock/ for up to date adblock filters.

Thats cool, can you make it work in an Emacs buffer too? ;) I tend to download the latest one of these (the bottom) every so often and import it into adblock: http://www.geocities.com/pierceive/adblock/ That guy deserves a knighthood.

Use Firefox to block pop-ups and install the Adblock extension with the latest filter list to block ads. Haven't seen very many in a long time now -- 1995 style with 2005 content.