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Maybe not an airport, but possibly a harbour.

You can already watch Lost and other ABC shows for free online. See http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

Hopefully more stations will follow ABC's lead on this.

will this be a step closer to us getting free episodes of CSI/Lost etc.

You know about this, right?

I made the unfortunate mistake of watching the series finale of Alias this way. The delivery method itself works pretty well, but having been only the second episode or so of Alias that I've seen, I was pretty unimpressed with the way the show turned out.

I had to watch 3-4 30 second ads, for a total of about 90 minutes (in what I presume aired for 2 hours on normal TV, not bad). The annoying part was, you have to click to exit each ad and continue the show after 30 seconds. Overall, though, the video quality was excellent for being streamed.

I don't have cable or even an antenna, so all the shows I watch are on DVD from Netflix. However, I'd like to be able to stream (from the US, legally) World Cup games, live (or at least delayed no more than a few minutes). As far as I've been able to determine, the only way to do that is through ESPN360. It's free for certain ISPs (probably ones which agree to host mirroring/multicast equipment), but not mine. Fortunately, they're offering a demo from June 26 to July 19 (I think), so hopefully I'll catch some of the games during that period. They don't offer everything, but it's better than nothing. Still, TV is way behind radio in internet streaming, though that's rather expected. It seems like the BBC is at the forefront, but they can't/don't export even for a fee.

I read this in a recent issue of Science News but the link is only reachable by subscibers (20060610 issue). Here's another link: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=1993859.

"An architectural diagram of Windows would suggest there are more than 50 dependency layers (never mind that there also exist circular dependencies). After working in Windows for five years, you understand only, say, two of them."

I think the biggest problem for Microsoft with Windows is that practically no-one working on it really knows what most of it does any more since the original programmers have long since moved on.

Its interesting though to speculate on what might have been.. That Dvorak chap recently argued that Internet Explorer was Microsoft's biggest mistake. I think he was wrong. I think it is .NET. Around about 1999-2002 every analyst seemed to think that Windows would rule the data centre by now. But rather than, say, adopting Java as a development platform of choice and working to make Windows data centre ready, they decided to waste, to date, 6 years re-inventing Java and trying to get Windows out of the door at the same time. This gave the Windows team a moving target since Longhaul was going to be the ".NET" OS and meant that Microsoft had a very spread focus. The new kid in the datacentre now seems to be firmly established as Linux and I think it will probably be another generation or more before Microsoft gets another shot here. So all that Vista work probably won't win Microsoft much new territory at all even if it is really good.

I got three words for you:

CANNIBAL POLAR BEARS http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=2069 647

"If she explained herself in a way that was not explained in the articles I read and I found out the story wasn't right and she WASN'T suing her school to do something physically impossible, then I would apologize."

With two regimes, like in the cold war, a show of strength on both sides prevented a major direct conflict. However, there were a lot of small conflicts on the side encouraged or instigated by the two powers.

There are deep reasons why everyone can't "just get along". Christian doctrine calls it "concupiscence". Although the popular meaning considers only sexual dysfunction, it means all the physical and mental dysfunctions which mar our humanity, and make it impossible for us to be wholly good without help. Current (American) liberal thought agrees to the point of explaining bad behaviour in terms of syndromes. For example, 16 million Americans "suffer" from IED - which makes them more likely to engage in "road rage".

The difference is that liberalism sees the dysfunction as an excuse. Christian thought sees the dysfunction as an explanation, but no amount of excusing will change the eventual end result of physical and spiritual death. Only supernatural intervention can turn around the human condition.

mirror a consensus among America's gadget-happy, cell-phone addicts whose daily chats and text messages are grist for Echelon's computers

Of course this audience will blame it all on other people not being as smart, etc., but by a 2-to-1 ratio, people just aren't worried about it. That would usually qualify as a workable consensus... and makes it hard to gin up that sense of urgency needed to move things, politically.

And, of course, when Canadian intel people used online chat monitoring as part of their bust on those clowns that were busy procuring weapons and explosives to attack the parliment building (and that makes the news for the average viewer), that tends to further lessen the general public's interest in reducing the ability to repeat that success. Let's face it - most people aren't really all that worried if it's clear that they dial everyone they know and send a flurry of text messages at the end of every American Idol episode. Articles and comments by and for the technorati aren't going to ever feel meaningful to most folks (you know, the ones that form the consensus). Just sayin'.

http://bbsnews.net/bw2003-04-05.html http://www.rense.com/general20/innocentmanshot.htm http://www2.oprah.com/tows/pastshows/200505/tows_p ast_20050526.jhtml http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2735735.stm http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id =4212279 http://www.local6.com/news/4174721/detail.html

...how much crap can they pile...

"So much crap, they had to start a second pile."
Mimi Bobeck, "The Drew Carey Show"

As in a "2.0" pile..

None of the digital movie download services I know of lets the user download the movie and then burn it to DVD. Apparently this has to do with CSS and burnable DVDs (you can't encrypt or encrypt properly burned DVDs). The last I heard of this was that there was work on a new version of CSS that would let you burn DVDs yourself, but that there might be compatibility issues with older DVD players. [In the meantime the porn industry chose its own encryption format which apparently works with existing players.]

Does this kiosk development mean that the new version of CSS is ready? If so DVD burning could be available for online digital download services as well. As I see it they're held back by the simple fact that connecting a computer to a TV is not as easy as putting a DVD into the player.

There are a lot of computer companies that, in my opinion, sell garbage products, products that cause IT professionals grief, or would if they weren't eliminated.

HP's products are worse than garbage, in my experience. They are scary garbage. I tried to un-install an HP printer driver and the un-install program deleted more than 900 files in the WinNT folder, files belonging to the operating system, not HP.

An HP technical support person told me to solve a problem with an HP printer driver by renaming an HP file so the driver could not be used.

Another HP technical support person told me to solve a problem with an HP network printer driver by not trying to use the network facility.

When installing an HP printer, it has been common that there are error messages. This is during installation. We stopped buying HP products because of that.

It's sad to see HP on a downward spiral. Lou Platt was a terrible manager. Carly Fiorina was FAR worse. I'm guessing the company is rated about 0.1 Enron now.

Watch for this: The top managers of HP will destroy the company, but will still take home tens of millions of dollars in salary and "bonuses", as Carly Fiorina did. Top managers have become enemies of companies and enemies of society.

I don't know if this is true, but it has been said that HP would not be profitable if the company could not sell Inkjet printer ink for $800 per gallon. If that is true, then it is possible that HP is not primarily a computer company, but is primarily an "expoiter of customer ignorance" company.

HP was once a company admired by everyone.

I agree with previous comments that probably HP is planning to fire the employees.

Nicole C. Wong, the author of the article did a surprisingly good job in writing it. Normally business writers are clueless about technology.

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Edwards: George W. Bush is the "worst president of our lifetime".

"incredibly expensive shows like 24 and Lost WON'T EXIST if they can't make money."

http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

5 episodes available!

Seems ABC's already adapted to our digital world.

Senator John Edwards: George W. Bush is the "worst president of our lifetime".

The U.S. government is becoming involved in a culture of all war, all the time, and all surveillance, all the time.

Most people don't realize that former presidents have access to CIA and NSA data. So, if voters in the U.S. elect a president who has family and friends and business associates heavily invested in oil and weapons companies, that president will be able to use the data to spy on competitors. It's not so crude as that; it's much more sneaky, but that's the result.

The main purpose of the Iraq war was to arrange that the Iraq oil profits would go to Americans. Other purposes: 1) Saddam Hussein of Iraq was upsetting the planned artificial scarcity of oil, and oil companies wanted oil prices to go up. (Yes, there is real scarcity, too.) 2) The oil was being sold by Saddam Hussein for euros. If other countries began selling their oil for euros, the dollar, weakened by unprecedented debt, could crash. Instead, the value is going down slowly, making everything more expensive for people in the United States. The weakening of the dollar is equivalent to stealing the value of people's savings. 3) The U.S. government gives perhaps $5 billion each year to Israel; the money is used to kill Arabs. Saddam Hussein had made threatening statements about that, and Paul Wolfowitz arranged that the U.S. would pay for Israel's security, serving his culture against the best interests of his country. (They call it "doctrine" to give it a kind of religious importance.)

There's nothing "conservative" about Republicans. Some Republicans are responsible leaders, but others have formed a kind of crime syndicate to sell the U.S. government to whomever can use influence to make money. See U.S. Federal Deficit by Political Party.

U.S. Vice-president Cheney, whose friends and family and business associates are invested in oil and weapons, had a secret meeting with oil executives. A few months later, the price of gas rose enormously. Coincidence?

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Taxpayer Karma: If you give money to kill people, expect your own quality of life to diminish.

Find an illegal immigrant online, then call your local chapter of The Minutemen to take em out.

Edwards: George W. Bush is the "worst president of our lifetime".

The U.S. government is becoming involved in a culture of all war, all the time, and all surveillance, all the time.

Most people don't realize that former presidents have access to CIA and NSA data. So, if voters in the U.S. elect a president who has family and friends and business associates heavily invested in oil and weapons companies, that president will be able to use the data to spy on competitors. It's not so crude as that; it's much more sneaky, but that's the result.

The main purpose of the Iraq war was to arrange that the Iraq oil profits would go to Americans. Other purposes: 1) Saddam Hussein of Iraq was upsetting the planned artificial scarcity of oil, and oil companies wanted oil prices to go up. (Yes, there is real scarcity, too.) 2) The oil was being sold by Saddam Hussein for euros. If other countries began selling their oil for euros, the dollar, weakened by unprecedented debt, could crash. Instead, the value is going down slowly, making everything more expensive for people in the United States. The weakening of the dollar is equivalent to stealing the value of people's savings. 3) The U.S. government gives perhaps $5 billion each year to Israel; the money is used to kill Arabs. Saddam Hussein had made threatening statements about that, and Paul Wolfowitz arranged that the U.S. would pay for Israel's security, serving his culture against the best interests of his country. (They call it "doctrine" to give it a kind of religious importance.)

There's nothing "conservative" about Republicans. Some Republicans are responsible leaders, but others have formed a kind of crime syndicate to sell the U.S. government to whomever can use influence to make money. See U.S. Federal Deficit by Political Party.

U.S. Vice-president Cheney, whose friends and family and business associates are invested in oil and weapons, had a secret meeting with oil executives. A few months later, the price of gas rose enormously. Coincidence?

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Taxpayer Karma: If you give money to kill people, expect your own quality of life to diminish.

It's memorable and there are already legal examples - Pittsburgh Pirates, Disney's Pirates of the Carribean, etc. I certainly haven't seen any raids on Disney's site.

Back in the 1980s I even knew a sysop that ran a legal BBS called Pirates Harbor. He promised "booty" as you progressed levels up in the system including download privledges, but all the software available was legal. A lot of the software hosted there was actually created by pirates, but made for use by gamers. I remember stuff like a Wizardry Scenario Editor, an Ultima sprite editor (I know the author of that one), a booklet of hack codes for different games (assembly calls for stuff like infinite lives), and also the one that got me in trouble in Jr High - the BBS version of the Anarchist Cookbook. In a nutshell, I printed 3 pages on bombs and a black powder recipe for a friend at school and then he made photocopies and started selling them. Someone got caught and turned in people up the food chain until I was fingered. I had a scared chat with a police officer and the Principal, but nothing illegal was done and there was no school policy banning information (until the next week). It was long before Columbine - I'd have been expelled and straightjacketed if I brought such a thing today. Incidentally, I did build one bomb - a smoke bomb (saltpeter and sugar) - which was pretty much where my interest in the subject ended.

I suspect with Disney's new movie http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/pirates/
to be released soon they needed stop any Priate(tm) trademark dilution.

MOD PARENT UP!!!

The U.S. government is becoming involved in a culture of all war, all the time, and all surveillance, all the time.

Most people don't realize that former presidents have access to CIA and NSA data. So, if voters in the U.S. elect a president who has family and friends and business associates heavily invested in oil and weapons companies, that president will be able to use the data to spy on competitors. It's not so crude as that, and a lot more sneaky, but that is the result.

U.S. Vice-president Cheney had a secret meeting with oil executives. A few months later, the price of gas rose enormously. Coincidence?

George W. Bush is the "worst president of our lifetime".

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Taxpayer Karma: If you give money to kill people, expect your own quality of life to diminish.

Articles like these make me sad that slashdot doesn't allow the posting of images in replies. Had this been on fark.com, this thread would be full of Ric Romero images.

Luckily Ric's wikipedia article suggests a textual equivalent..

"Determining which bugs to fix should take into account some manner of cost-benefit analysis?! Thank you, Captain Obvious!"

John Edwards says that George W. Bush is the "worst president of our lifetime"

They don't want condom use being taught in school because it will increase teenage sexual activity. They don't want female nipples seen on television because it will encourge children to have sex. They don't want an XXX domain because it will make it easier for children to find porn, which will irreperably damage them somehow.

In addition, they don't want a new vaccine that prevents early stage cervical cancer and cancer lesions caused by HPV infection, because this may encourage teenagers to be more sexually promiscuous.

To restate: they would rather watch teenagers die a horrible death through cancer, than allow teens to bump and grind a little.

But he is in it up to his neck for the same reason Cheney, Rice, and Rumsfeld are: he's an oil man. Nothing more and nothing less. Oil and oil shares are the only things he cares about and he's as happy as the rest of them to kill a few hundred or thousands (especially if they are foreigners) to get them.

"Nothing that I know of that is relevent to the current situation, but it is still a fantastic archive"
Operation Northwoods is listed in that archive and here and here Northwoods was a plan by the pentagon to hijack planes to incite war with Cuba. I'd say that's relevant and a very dark hour in our history.

"I'm shocked, shocked there is gambling going on here!"
"Your winnings sir..."
"Oh thank you!"

The wiretapping is illegal.
Wiretapping is perfectly legal in various situations in the US. Now if you are meaning President's authorizing NSA to perform the warrentless ones that can be kind of iffy and will be up to the supreme court to fully inteperet a federal statute, since it already recognized by most legal sources that it was constitutional.
The real quest comes down to if it was authorized under the Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF), and based on Supreme Court decisions such as Hamdi v. Rumsfeld kind of indicate that the court will say it is.

Not using the FISA courts is illegal.
Even democrates in Congress do not believe that. One of the proposed changes by democrates is that FISA approval would be required for this. Even they have given up the press speeches that it is illegal.

Blowing a CIA operative's cover is illegal.
Yes it is and there are current court cases that are tring the person involved. If more evidence is found indicating more people then they also better be procecuted.

Taking bribes from Big Oil and other corporations?
Are you talking about this?

Stealing elections via a corrupt system
Let me guess you also accuse bush of blowing up the twin towers, the oklahoma city bombing, and firing a missle at TWA Flight 800?

Though to be honest I don't see of the appeal of HD over the net. It's the same bullshit video tape of a monkey falling out of a tree or something, just now it's got 16 times the pixels.

You will eat your words in a few years. The internet is a much better way to deliver video than we currently have on our TVs. On our TVs, we have to follow the schedule that TV executives have set (yes, I know Tivo is one solution), but on the internet, the shows that we want to watch will all be available when we want them. Already, ABC is experimenting with this model by putting Lost and a few of their other shows online. http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

Because as we all know those dangerous predators are only on the interweb.

Now wait a second. This is a test and they are opening real people's packages. WTF? (FTW?) I didn't know that shipping plastic optical media was a crime anywhere. Sure it's "customs" that's actually opening the packages, but the fact that it's plastic optical media is not probable cause. How many false positives have they had? Is it worth pissing off that many FedEx customers for the occasional actually pirated media (of which they've found zero)?

I have yet to see a house that Ty Pennington couldn't break into. All it takes is the right tools!

At least if you read the 10-second health news today: http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=health&id =4146981

Men who drink more than 2 litres of tap-water per day have a 50% increase in bladder cancer.

>I don't think Bridgestone can ask Ferrari to slow its F1 cars down because Bridgestone tyres cannot perform at high speed.

well, Michelin can
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/story?series=f1 &id=2089905

Actually they said that scenes of torture and the blood and gore content where also higher than the submitter claimed.
I don't understand the flack over this. The game isn't banned it's rating was just changed. Those ratings are voluntary and are not enforced by law.
It isn't even like alcohol and cigarettes. A store can choose to sell pretty much any game to anyone. No will get fined or go to jail for it.
It's not like they are banning it.
Unlike here http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/347/eu.shtml or here http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1596751 it isn't government enforced like here http://www.caslon.com.au/censorshipguide17.htm
or like this move to censor internet video http://www.indexonline.org/en/indexindex/articles/ 2005/3/european-union-official-papers-offer-plans- t.shtml
Over all I don't see any reason to get all worked up over this.

Here's one expert who was recently featured:

(ABC News) http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/AvianFlu/story?id=172480 1

  Excerpts:

Robert G. Webster is one of the few bird flu experts confident enough to answer the key question: Will the avian flu switch from posing a terrible hazard to birds to becoming a real threat to humans?

There are "about even odds at this time for the virus to learn how to transmit human to human," he told ABC's "World News Tonight." Webster, the Rosemary Thomas Chair at St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis, Tenn., is credited as the first scientist to find the link between human flu and bird flu.

"I personally believe it will happen and make personal preparations," said Webster, who has stored a three-month supply of food and water at his home in case of an outbreak."

Now that we've all realized that the gornment's next step wil be to disallow any indecipherable info on the net, what's left to discuss that hasn't already been discussed on the YRO threads?...Hey! How 'bout them Cubs? I mean them White Sox.

paralells The Incredibles

I guess they don't want to eat into the revenue for re-runs during the break.

Did DEVO make a million bucks by swindling Disney, or the other way around? (The fact that I can't tell suggests that it's de-evolution at its finest, and that Mothersbaugh just pwn3d teh mouse.)

why would you want to record the Flash version?

Eh. Their silly player doesn't allow a full-screen version (just a 'kinda-full screen'). If I'm going to watch TV, I'd prefer it to be full-screen. This would allow me to do it.

Besides, it's not stealing: read the website's terms of use.

See? Right there. We can download one copy for personal, noncommercial home use only. Granted, by the letter of the law you can't copy it to like, an iPod, or something, but I doubt a judge would quibble all that much if someone did that.

How nice of them to let us do that - I'm surprised that no one else has mentioned it.

(Now, they might not *intend* for you to be able to rip the Flash stream, but hey, I'm just reading their own Terms of Use.)

Oh, hey they'll probably get DEVO 2.0 to do it... Take a look: http://disney.go.com/disneyrecords/Song-Albums/dev o20/

;)

... then watch Alias. Marshall rocks as a computer/technical geek and is funny. :) He even uses Linux, KDE, XMMS, and xmame in the show as shown here and here (screen captures!). ;)

... you can get around that with proxies according to Digg (also here). This project is only up for at least a two-month trial period. Full screen is not possible, but there are two different sizes and the quality is excellent (not HDTV quality) on a fast Internet connection at my workplace.

Don't forget to leave feedbacks for ABC on this project! Let them know what you think of it! It is also missing two of my other TV shows (Invasion and Grey's Anatomy). So, I left a request and a positive comment for ABC via its feedback.

I wonder if there is a way to set the Flash video to fullscreen onto my TV as a video overlay? I do this with Windows' Media Players, VideoLAN Client Media Player, DVD players, etc. I don't have to set the players to fullscreen, just the video out.

... you can get around that with proxies according to Digg (also here). This project is only up for at least a two-month trial period. Full screen is not possible, but there are two different sizes and the quality is excellent (not HDTV quality) on a fast Internet connection at my workplace.

Don't forget to leave feedbacks for ABC on this project! Let them know what you think of it! It is also missing two of my other TV shows (Invasion and Grey's Anatomy). So, I left a request and a positive comment for ABC via its feedback.

I wonder if there is a way to set the Flash video to fullscreen onto my TV as a video overlay? I do this with Windows' Media Players, VideoLAN Client Media Player, DVD players, etc. I don't have to set the players to fullscreen, just the video out.

... you can get around that with proxies according to Digg (also here). This project is only up for at least a two-month trial period. Full screen is not possible, but there are two different sizes and the quality is excellent (not HDTV quality) on a fast Internet connection at my workplace.

Don't forget to leave feedbacks for ABC on this project! Let them know what you think of it! It is also missing two of my other TV shows (Invasion and Grey's Anatomy). So, I left a request and a positive comment for ABC via its feedback.

I wonder if there is a way to set the Flash video to fullscreen onto my TV as a video overlay? I do this with Windows' Media Players, VideoLAN Client Media Player, DVD players, etc. I don't have to set the players to fullscreen, just the video out.

Even nutjobs can find things. Even if they don't understand their purpose. The following article gives more information and indicates that something indeed has been found.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=1863 858&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

Better story. Please comment.

Your personal impact on global warming may be influenced as much by what you eat as by what you drive.

That surprising conclusion comes from a couple of scientists who have taken an unusual look at the production of greenhouse gases from an angle that not many folks have even thought about. Gidon Eshel and Pamela Martin, assistant professors of geophysics at the University of Chicago, have found that our consumption of red meat may be as bad for the planet as it is for our bodies.

If you want to help lower greenhouse gas emissions, they conclude in a report to be published in the journal Earth Interactions, become a vegetarian.

In the interest of full disclosure, it should be noted that both researchers are vegetarians, although they admit to cheating a little with an occasional sardine. They say their conclusions are backed up by hard data.

Eshel and Martin collected that data from a wide range of sources, and they examined the amount of fossil-fuel energy -- and thus the level of production of greenhouse gases -- required for five different diets. The vegetarian diet turned out to be the most energy efficient, followed by poultry, and what they call the "mean American diet," which consists of a little bit of everything.

There was a surprising tie for last place. In terms of energy required for harvesting and processing, fish and red meat ended up in a "virtual tie," but that's just in terms of energy consumed. When you toss in all those other factors, such as bovine flatulence and gas released by manure, red meat comes in dead last. Fish remains in fourth place, some distance behind poultry and the mean American diet, chiefly because the type of fish preferred by Americans requires a lot of energy to catch.

Eating Red Meat Like Driving an SUV?

Can changing your diet really have much of an impact?

"It is comparable to the difference between driving an SUV and driving a reasonable sedan," said Eshel, who drives a Honda Civic, and only when he has to.

Eshel, who grew up on a farm, has always been interested in ecology and the impact we have on the planet. He got into this research, he says, because "now that I'm a professor of geophysics, I have tools in my tool kit that I can apply much more quantitatively and rigorously to evaluate what we do."

Yep, I tried that too.
I also tried another article from ABC News about meat eaters contributing to global warming (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=1856817 &page=1). It was inauthentic/28.8%.

Looks like they have a crafty team of robots there at abc :)

The general consensus is that the 12" Macbook Pro will be released when Merom hits the market. With the heat problems the Macbook Pros have been having, a 12" wouldn't be viable at this time.

Here's some links if you want em':

• Intel Core Processor Number Details (includes Low Voltage Core Duos)
• Lenovo ThinkPad X60s review (March 24)
• First Look: Lenovo ThinkPad X60s (April 19)

About 45 registered Level 2 and 3 sex offenders who live in Westchester County, just north of New York City, will receive special invitations to attend an educational program between 6 p.m. and 10 p.m. on Oct. 31, under an initiative spearheaded by Westchester County Executive Andrew Spano. Those who don't attend will receive a personal visit from probation officers and police. Level 1 sex offenders and those on probation who have committed crimes of a sexual nature will also receive a home visit, according to a statement released by Spano's office.

Well, you clearly haven't even read Res. 1441. What is it with you people and your refusal to actually read anything?

All other tales of Al-Qaida operatives in Saddam's Iraq at Saddam's behest or with his support are bullshit, as Saddam hated those guys more than we do.

Lol... okay, keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile new documents keep turning up showing that notion to be as baseless as common sense tells us it is. If you are going to engage in these conversations, you need to do some reading beforehand, and you need to inform yourself. There is no basis, whatsoever, for the assertion that Saddam "hated those guys more than we do." There is, however, ample evidence that they had low level contacts at the least, and other more suggestive evidence that they had operational ties.

Al-Zarqawi was not an Al-Qaida operative until *after* the invasion

You can split hairs all you want, but I will not allow you to abfuscate the issue. He was running a terror training camp in Afghanistan up to 2001, working with al-Queda, then fled to Iraq after a US missile strike where he was provided medical care by Saddam Hussein.

The UN inspections prior to 1998, and the UN sanctions, were working well. There was agreement on that. Obviously, if the UN weapons inspectors had been allowed to stay in Iraq, that would have been ascertained. The sheer amount of harassment Iraq was receiving was hindering it greatly. The money Saddam did have was diminishing rapidly. We saw that when his army failed to do anything when we attacked.

I think I will let this little gem stand on its own merit. Hehe. I mean you clearly have your facts in order, obviously. There certainly must be agreement on that. We saw that when your string of assertions failed to provide any supporting evidence at all, obviously.

Read about the downing street memos. Read about the scandal surrounding the "sexing-up" of intelligence dossiers to make Saddam sound dangerous

I have read them... I think that it reflects poorly on you that you think they are as important as you suggest they are.