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More practical Volt?

Only if you like carbecues and you believe that massive government subsidies are the way to go...

There's nothing more "practical" about the Volt- and if you got to brass tacks, it's as much a failure as Fisker and Better Place's attempts were.

In fact, there's NOTHING "practical" about any of the EV's right at the moment. Range limited. They're far removed from "clean" or "green"- they're just zero LOCAL emissions and other pollution generating. Until you get the same energy density storage as 12 gallons of Gasoline into the things and quit using anything other than Hydroelectric, Solar, Wind, and Liquid Salt Thorium reactors, it's NOT going to be anything other than really a playtoy.

What war against al Qaida?

The Authorization for Use of Military Force makes it clear who the US is fighting again, and that it is at war. It is well settled law that such an authorization is legally equivalent to a declaration of war.

You mean that big recruitment drive for them in Iraq, where Al Qaida did not even exist before the US invasion?

Like most people in the modern era, al Qaida members are able to travel. Many of them came to Iraq to fight, some were recruited locally. If you notice from the map, Iraq is near a number of countries with a notable extremist presence, and al Qaida problem.

Iraq was a major loss for al Qaida. They made many grand announcements that turned into nothing. Many of their leaders and technical experts were captured or killed. Many of their funding sources were found out and stopped. And the biggest problem for them was that the Arab Muslim world had a ring side seat to see how their future would-be overlords behaved. Al Qaida demonstrated themselves to be barbarians before the entire Arab Muslim word. They killed huge numbers of ordinary Muslims in massive slaughters. The Muslims in the region noticed this, and al Qaida support was badly damaged.

Eventual most of al Qaida was called out of Iraq, and guess where many of them fled? To Afghanistan. That is part of the reason that Afghanistan got so hot again as Iraq was winding down.

The Taliban were created after the Russians left Afghanistan. They were a creation of Pakistan. The Taliban were not US allies. They were allied with al Qaida.

By historical standards the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan have been cheap in terms of American lives lost. For dealing with Saddam and al Qaidas state within a state and training base turning out thousands of trained terrorists per year in Afghanistan, it was worth it. As to the deaths in Iraq, the Lancet study you refer to was paid for by George Soros, is bad science, and a piece of propaganda to try to mislead the public, influence an election, and derail the American war effort.

Beats "negligence or inaction" eh?

Very much so. If it had to be repeated there would need to be some fine tuning. Being as the US has been out of business of military occupation or colonial rule for a very long time it didn't have the institutional experience to make the best of the opportunities to help the Iraqi people. Part of the problem is that Saddam had diverted so many resources to building enormous palaces all over the country and to his covert rearming that the infrastructure was falling apart. What is worse is what he did to the Iraqi people, corrupting them badly. It will take them time to recover, but at least now that they are not under Saddam or his hell spawn children* Iraq has a chance. I hope they make it.

*Really, how bad are you when Saddam is the one restraining you, saying you are too cruel, as he did to at least one if not both of this sons?

The state also proved Zimmerman was on top while martin was on the bottom when the shot was fired.

I think you have that wrong. The prosecution was trying to say that when the shot was fired, there was a distance between the two that would have allowed Zimmerman to retreat instead of shooting. Expert witnesses in the field of forensics say the evidence matches Martin being on the top of Zimmerman and the gun being between 2 and 4 inches with the muzzle touching his shirt. The muzzle touching the shirt is what clinches it as gravity would cause the shirt to fall away from the body. This is how the gun was X inches away but touching the shirt, in a position of being over top of someone, the shirt falls away from the body towards the gun which was held by the person on the ground and under the one shot.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/09/forensic-expert-says-zimmerman-on-bottom-fired-at-close-range/

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/06/28/prosecution-witness-in-zimmerman-trial-testifies-martin-on-top-in-fight/

I'm not sure where or how, but there is a lot of misinformation out there about this. I know the mass media has already been caught doctoring the 9/11 recordings to make things sound different then what happened. They have posted pictures of Martin at age 12 instead of 17 in attempts to gain sympathy or whatever for him. We have documents declaring the US government being involved and aiding protesters for some reason. It is as if there is a concerted effort to cause a problem at the ending of this trial in order to push some political agenda or something.

People responsible for crafting laws should be penalized for poor and vague wording.
  Even if it was unintentionally vague (I suspect it is frequently intentional, too).

They are subject to public ridicule, having their law overturned in court, and being tossed out of office by voters. If they go for the gold they could be caught up in corruption charges. Of course a politician being a disgrace doesn't really seem to matter to some voters. These two still seem to find enthusiastic audiences.

Lupica: Sleazy New York politicians Spitzer, Weiner just refuse to stay away

Endgame: New poll shows Anthony Weiner leading in race for NYC mayor

DO NOT aid endangered species. You will face fines and jail time for that. Let them die instead.

I think that the regular postal mail is still protected from the NSA.

Yeah, for the moment, that we know of... Of course Lindsay Graham (R) is quite ok with doing just that linky

What do the "brownshirts," as you styled the sheriffs in Florida, have to do with FB, or any of it? What do the KGB and Gestapo have to do with it, and your comparison with DHS? Your language was way over the top, and the point was misguided.

It looks like this started with complaints to the government.

The FBI said the interview was prompted by complaints from people who read his posts, including some that spoke of a pending revolution. One said "a day of reckoning" was coming, and another said: "Sharpen my axe; I'm here to sever heads." . . . The Federal Bureau of Investigation launched "Operation Vigilant Eagle" in 2009 to target white supremacists and "militia/sovereign-citizen extremist groups," with a focus on veterans, according to memos obtained and reported at the time by The Wall Street Journal. A memo detailing the national operation was issued by the Department of Homeland Security later. -- Facebook Posts: Suit Filed Over Vet's Detention

I think you are right to have concerns, but privacy isn't an unconditional right, and in certain respects it can be graduated. The idea that publicly accessible web sites are private is questionable. Groups that advocate the violent overthrow of the government are advocating something illegal, and have been monitored before.

And as to the IRS and FB? The IRS made law abiding, peaceful political groups submit printouts of their websites to them, along with many intrusive, completely inappropriate questions all under the threat of law. It cost them large amounts of time and money, including attorney fees. It is clear that there was a pattern of abuse with the obvious intent of political suppression, and it worked. That is it was real political suppression, not rhetorical. The groups they did it weren't making terroristic threats.

You worry about profiling, unless it is the IRS against certain political groups. You worry about extra searches, unless it is the IRS against certain political groups. You worry about intrusion into social media postings, unless it is the IRS against certain political groups. You worry about privacy, unless it is the IRS asking about people's prayers, lists of donors, and future plans. . And yes, the IRS went after religious groups as well: conservative Christian groups, and Jews. Do you have any outrage to spare?

I doubt the IRS had anything to do with warrantless wiretaps. The real recent scandal involving wiretaps at present is the administration targeting journalists in an unprecedented way. Some have called it an attempt to criminalize journalism.

But when it comes to war, and terrorism, the courts have long held that the President has that power to wiretap people in direct contact with the enemy in armed conflict. But either way, there is a process in place and the security services do get warrants. Just an FYI - Presidents have been doing that at least as far back as FDR. That isn't a threat to civil liberties as long as the limits are respected.

Your point about profiling is largely nonsense. The TSA bends over backwards to avoid the appearance of that, which is why there are so many complaints about 90 year old grandmothers, babies, and the handicapped, of all races, being searched. If anything, instead of profiling the most likely suspects in relation to the current conflicts, there are complaints about the reverse. People who act suspicious from the larger communities engaging in terrorism aren't getting the attention they should. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Just look away and then the problem will go away.

It wasn't the IRS commissioner appointed by Bush that recently took the Fifth in testifying before Congress.

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The "sequestration" cuts are $85B out of $3.6T, or ~2.4 %. This has motivated politicians from both parties, and loud-mouthed political actors of all stripes, to make wild claims about terrible consequences if the cuts were to be made. The implicit claim is that cutting 2.4% across the board would result in an "unready, hollow force", 9% unemployment, and all sorts of other horrific things (which I'm sure you've heard of by now).

Is it even true? From cutting a measly 2.4% of future spending? Or is it yet another shock doctrine exercise to distract us from other things we should be paying attention to instead? There's a book, BTW.

• How did we get de-industrialized over the past 40 years? Was there an upside for someone, and if so, who?
• Why does petroleum cost over $100/bbl when there is no shortage, demand has been decreasing since 2008, and it costs a small fraction of that to produce?
• Who supports "Al Qaeda"? (Hint)
• Why is wealth distribution becoming more and more polarized?
• Do wealthy companies, individuals, and organizations control the world's governments through (surprisingly affordable) "lobbying"?
• What will you retire on?
• How will climate change affect you over your lifetime?
• Where will your potable water come from 20 years from now?
• Why do we continue to eat such a massively unhealthy diet? What fraction of "out of control" medical care costs are directly attributable to that?
• Will your job or a job like it still exist in 2025? What will you be doing then?
• Why did we invade Iraq? Why are we still in Afghanistan? Why are we rattling our sabers at Iran if our "allies" in the middle east are by far the greatest financiers of terrorism?

etc.

Or it did happen.
Gun safe attacked

So I'm not sure why you are making shit up. I guess the standard on /. is to make your template against people you don't like, ignore facts, and post made up crap and reap in the points like the whore that you are. There are still a few people who like to look at FACTS still.

You, madame, have obviously been home schooled.

Lameness like that could only come from a Rachel Maddow fan.

This has exactly nothing to do with "having to justify" anything, but rather FIGURING OUT WHAT IS BROKEN instead of firing from the hip.
So the Donald "Duck" Trump style "you're fired!" approach makes little sense unless you are actually firing someone who is heavily contributing to the problem. And this is not proven at all wrt teachers and how schools work.

Except that millions of people are firing the public school system, even while they're still paying taxes for it.

I've been in both public and private schools, and the public schools let students run around like madmen. I've even been back to volunteer at public schools, and some inner city schools are so loud it's like walking into a jet engine. Students just do whatever the fuck they please, teachers are dispirited and all looking for transfers.

But that's just an anecdote. In Chicago, the real educational authorities have spoken: almost 40% of Chicago teachers have fired their school system, sending their kids to private schools.

The whole notion that we have to continually prop up a firm that is failing is bullshit. That's what got us "too big to fail" with completely broken banks or companies like GM. Those firms should have been liquidated and someone else given a chance to make something that works.

And the same is true of schools. There is nothing special about the public school system that makes it the ideal vehicle for educating children. If anything, it's probably going to be obsolete in 20 years time.

all other years being private schooled.

Attending a private school does not mean you're wealthy. There are plenty of private schools full of children from low and middle class families.

Oh yeah, from all walks of life. For instance, in Chicago, almost 40% of public school teachers send their kids to private schools. What it comes down to is they're just trying to get a decent education for their children.

Hotair.com aka mouthpiece of the most delusional of fringe republicans.

They're simply quoting the Fordham institute's study, of course. But when you have no facts to fall back on, I guess accusing everyone else of being "delusional" is the best you can do.

So a group of fringe republicans are quoting a study by a done conservative think tank, I suppose the fact that both of these parties despise anything that they feel smells of 'government', 'collectivism' and generally anything that runs contrary to the teachings of Ayn Rand, also ensured the complete impartiality and fairness of this study. If these guys are anything like most of the 'conservative think tank' types that show up in panel discussions on Fox News this study is not worth the paper it is printed on.

all other years being private schooled.

Attending a private school does not mean you're wealthy. There are plenty of private schools full of children from low and middle class families.

Oh yeah, from all walks of life. For instance, in Chicago, almost 40% of public school teachers send their kids to private schools. What it comes down to is they're just trying to get a decent education for their children.

Hotair.com aka mouthpiece of the most delusional of fringe republicans.

They're simply quoting the Fordham institute's study, of course. But when you have no facts to fall back on, I guess accusing everyone else of being "delusional" is the best you can do.

all other years being private schooled.

Attending a private school does not mean you're wealthy. There are plenty of private schools full of children from low and middle class families.

Oh yeah, from all walks of life. For instance, in Chicago, almost 40% of public school teachers send their kids to private schools. What it comes down to is they're just trying to get a decent education for their children.

Hotair.com aka mouthpiece of the most delusional of fringe republicans.

all other years being private schooled.

Attending a private school does not mean you're wealthy. There are plenty of private schools full of children from low and middle class families.

Oh yeah, from all walks of life. For instance, in Chicago, almost 40% of public school teachers send their kids to private schools. What it comes down to is they're just trying to get a decent education for their children.

Yeah that's the 40% who are not niggers. NIgger parents just care about their Obama money. Well, nigger PARENT not PARENTS since niggers are all raised by single moms.

all other years being private schooled.

Attending a private school does not mean you're wealthy. There are plenty of private schools full of children from low and middle class families.

Oh yeah, from all walks of life. For instance, in Chicago, almost 40% of public school teachers send their kids to private schools. What it comes down to is they're just trying to get a decent education for their children.

I immediately suggest that everybody takes you up on that offer. The public school teachers know what they and their education is truly are worth, that's why they send their kids to private schools disproportionately (of-course given their public salaries, looks like they are in a much better position to be able to afford it.)

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Turkey sales of Mein Kampf running high, a major Egyptian publisher mentions Mein Kampf as "being a big part of their success" among young readers, Mein Kampf is among top five bestsellers in Indonesia...

...jobs under Obama have been going up WHILE he's been reducing gov't head count.

The vast majority of decline in government jobs have been at the state and local level. The Federal government had been on a huge hiring binge and has only recently made some tiny reductions. It should go without saying that President Obama does not control state and local government hiring.

Federal employment drops after years of explosive growth

Federal employment has fallen for seven of the last eight months, the longest sustained drop in more than a decade. The decline is tiny: Just 9,900 fewer workers in May compared with a year earlier, excluding postal and temporary Census workers, reports the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's a fraction of the 2.2 million civilian federal workforce. . . .

Federal employment grew 13% — 250,000 jobs — from the recession's start in December 2007 to a peak last September. During that time, private employment fell 5% and state and local governments cut staffs by 2%.

The coming collapse in the state budgets

Near 40% of public school teachers send kids to private schools. I don't believe 40% of the rest of the public can afford to do that, since they are the ones that are paying the taxes that go towards public schools already, and once that money is taken from them, they can't afford to pay for a private school yet another time. But teachers, whose pay is higher than an average pay of a private worker, can afford to and does.

Maybe this has something to do with the fact that students are just not learning things in public schools.

People should be able to take their money and instead of handing it over to any politician, to any union, to anybody, they should be able to take their kid and send him or her to a school of their choice and pay for it with the money that they would not have to pay in taxes for the pathetic level of 'education' their kids would be getting publicly.

"Breaking the Law is useful in enforcing the Law that is illegal under the foundation of Law."

Wonderful little police state you got there.

Most people here will mistakenly think your comment is snide, but isn't it closer to the mark to call it appreciation tinged with envy?* Of course it isn't true, the United States isn't a police state. Defending yourself against would-be mass murderers, that is terrorists as opposed to political dissenters, is not oppression. Neither is surveillance on people in direct contact with Al Qaida oppression. You'll know the United States is a genuine police state when "slandering the state" earns you 10 years in a labor camp as was common under various socialist regimes of the sort you don't seem to criticize much.

The United States isn't quite there yet as President Obama's "Green Jobs Czar", Van Jones, was just a little too openly radical for the present age.

Proposed Soviet Legal Code to Retain Execution - By ESTHER B. FEIN, Special to the New York Times, December 18, 1988

Groups and individuals monitoring human rights have been anticipating the legal changes, hoping that they would eliminate articles that have been used to suppress and punish political dissent - in particular, Article 70, which sanctions imprisonment for anti-Soviet agitation, and Article 190, which allows it for anti-Soviet slander. But the ''guidelines for criminal legislation of the U.S.S.R. and the constituent republics,'' do not mention either article. They deal with some, but not all, of the individual statutes, and mostly offer direction to the 15 republics for rewriting their criminal codes.

* Nobody should be confused about the willingness of would-be revolutionaries to fight the system they intend to overthrow with its own procedures (Rule 4) to maximize their opportunity to act legally while working to subvert the nation. (Once power passes to them, surprises can follow.) The founding leadership of the ACLU is a case in point:

First, Roger Baldwin: Baldwin was the founder of the ACLU . . . Baldwin was an atheist. He was also a onetime communist, who, among other ignoble gestures, wrote a horrible 1928 book called Liberty Under the Soviets. Notably, he was smart enough not to join Communist Party USA (CPUSA). Other early officials of the ACLU, which was founded almost exactly the same time as the American Communist Party, included major party members like William Z. Foster, Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, and Louis Budenz (who later broke with the party). Communists used the ACLU to deflect questions from the U.S. government over whether they were loyal to the USSR, were serving Joe Stalin in some capacity, and were committed to the overthrow of the American system. . . .

So bad had been the ACLU in aiding and abetting American communists that various legislative committees, federal and state, considered whether it was a communist front. The 1943 California Senate Fact-Finding Committee on Un-American Activities reported that the ACLU "may be definitely classed as a communist front." The committee added that "at least 90 percent of its [the ACLU's] efforts are expended on behalf of communists who come into conflict with the law." That 90-percent figure was consistent with a major report produced by Congress a decade earlier, January 17, 1931. --- The ACLU's Not-So-Holy Tri

I have the impression that Romney is just an all around more decent human being, actually, not just more charitable with his money.

Several Obama-supporting friends have sent me that picture and story of the little boy touching the President's head, like it's proof that he's a nice guy, But, you know, so what? The only poeple who don't like kids are assholes. Being nice to them, especially when they're being cute, is a pretty low bar for decency.

On the other hand, most of what I hear about Romney's moral fiber is that he made his millions as an evil job-offshoring corporate raider, and that he once made his dog ride in a pet carrier on top of the family car.

But then there's this story, that was told at the RNC. I'm not a Romney supporter. I also consider myself to be a pretty cynical guy. But when I heard the first part of that story on the radio on my way home from work, I sat in my driveway until it was over. And then I sat for a few more minutes to recover so that my roommates wouldn't know that I'd been crying.

Just think about that. When is the last time you played with your girlfriend's nephew or whatever to earn brownie points, and when was the last time you visited a dying 14 year old's hospital room to take his last will and testament, and then delivered the eulogy?

Anyway, considering the most powerful nations in the world are after Assange for pressing his penis against a sleeping girl with whom he was sleeping and are prepared to storm embassies and engage in other acts of war in order to get their hands on him, I'm guessing $1.9million is going to get burned through pretty quickly in legal funds alone (assuming he ever sees the inside of a courtroom).

The prosecutors in one small European nation, Sweden, are after Assange for inserting his penis into a sleeping woman in a manner which she had previously expressly forbid, and to which she could not consent as she was asleep. (But you already knew that, didn't you?) Intercourse without consent is rape, even if they had previously had sex. (Perhaps you remember the debates about the legal question -can a husband rape his wife?) The UK is honoring its treaty obligations to Sweden by honoring the INTERPOL arrest warrant. After losing his legal fight to avoid extradition from the UK to Sweden, Assange fled the UK police, became a fugitive from justice, and took refuge in a foreign embassy of a nation currently oppressing its journalists. Breaking bond and escaping custody of the police is one easy way to turn even a minor crime into part of a much more serious offense. The UK had made it know that they could withdraw recognition of the current embassy grounds, not storm the embassy. Assange's legal bills would be much more modest if he wouldn't continue to create problems for himself. If he is lucky he will only end up serving time in a Swedish prison for sex crimes, and not be returned to the UK for bail jumping and fleeing the police. What about Russia and China? Not involved. The USA? It isn't involved in the matter of resolving the allegations of sexual assault against Assange other than to be the object of a red herring about extradition from Sweden to the US before Assange faces justice in Sweden.

Is $2,000,000 a big deal? Many small businesses hope to make that kind of money. Ask these guys.

It's funny that the Wall Street Journal you link to would consider $1.9 million to be distinctly "middle class" when it comes to tax policy,

That's funny, I thought $250,000 was the new rich.

Just another liberal happy to kill for the cause I suppose. There sure are a disturbing number of you around these days, unwilling to debate and only to destroy.

That's some nice projection you've got going on there. I invite you to visit any number of message boards and count the number of death threats vs. liberals vs. death threats against conservatives and see if it supports your assumption.

--Jeremy

I don't think it's projection when he's posting on a forum with hundreds of posts wishing for Republicans to die. Projection is when your project your own faults onto others who do not have those faults. So, in this case, it is hardly what I'd call "projection".

Next, I challenge you to go to "right wing" sites and find me some death wishes. May I recommend Hot Air, Red State or even News Busters. Now, granted, you will find a few whack jobs out there, but nothing like what you have seen here and nothing like what you may find on Democratic Underground or Daily Kos.

Sorry, but in light of what I've read here, it would appear that you are the one who is projecting.

And that "liberal" Jesus was against sexual deviancy, which includes homosexuality. That's not exactly what I would call a "liberal". Sure, Jesus was a liberal for someone living he first century, but not a liberal by today's standard. You should really clarify that.

Any mention of this guy deserves a footnote.

He's also in favor of:

performance enhancing drugs in sport, genetic screening, early abortion, late-term abortion, sex-selective abortion, embryonic stem cell research, hybrid embryos, saviour siblings, therapeutic cloning, reproductive cloning, genetic engineering of children for higher IQs, eugenics, and organ markets.

Far from being sophisticated and profound, all of Savulescu’s arguments run on the same rails. Why shouldn’t we do transgressive action X? he demands. X hurts no one. X is an expression of autonomy. X is my right. Do you object that X is against human nature? No such thing, buddy. Therefore, X is ethical. Let us, then, be courageously transgressive.

Now, if Professor Savulescu were a mere philosopher, rather than an Oxford Bioethicist, he would be laughed offstage. To paraphrase George Orwell, some ideas are so stupid that only a bioethicist could promote them.

http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/time_to_throw_in_the_towel/

He also found time to defend an article he edited advocating "after-birth abortions":

What is disturbing is not the arguments in this paper nor its publication in an ethics journal. It is the hostile, abusive, threatening responses that it has elicited. More than ever, proper academic discussion and freedom are under threat from fanatics opposed to the very values of a liberal society.

        What the response to this article reveals, through the microscope of the web, is the deep disorder of the modern world. Not that people would give arguments in favour of infanticide, but the deep opposition that exists now to liberal values and fanatical opposition to any kind of reasoned engagement.

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/28/journal-defends-its-publication-of-an-article-advocating-after-birth-abortion/

Yes... those damn liberal values that prevent a reasoned discussion on infanticide.

"On this day, we gather because we have chosen hope over fear, unity of purpose over conflict and discord." - by President Obama on Tuesday Jan 20, @10:35AM (#32151184)

LOL! You just got your ass handed to you by an old guy from Arizona! When you libeled SLP Obamadouche (or should I say Kerrynozzle, because you are the same person as well as the anonymous people I am reading in the newspapers) you didn't chose conflict over discord then.

"We remain a young nation, but in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things. The time has come to reaffirm our enduring spirit; to choose our better history; to carry forward that precious gift, that noble idea, passed on from generation to generation: the God-given promise that all are equal, all are free, and all deserve a chance to pursue their full measure of happiness. In reaffirming the greatness of our nation, we understand that greatness is never a given. It must be earned." - by President Obama on Tuesday Jan 20, @10:35AM (#32151184)

OH so you proclaim to be some expert on our nation now?? And SLP, who is an entirely different person to me, is not? SLP is an actual GOVERNOR of a State my friend! And you are just a community organizer! Tell me, if you are an EXPERT on our nation, where is your birth certificate? Are you even a citizen? I notice you don't answer! So maybe you shouldn't libel SLP??

"This is the journey we continue today. We remain the most prosperous, powerful nation on Earth. Our workers are no less productive than when this crisis began. Our minds are no less inventive, our goods and services no less needed than they were last week or last month or last year. Our capacity remains undiminished. But our time of standing pat, of protecting narrow interests and putting off unpleasant decisions - that time has surely passed. Starting today, we must pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and begin again the work of remaking America." - by President Obama on Tuesday Jan 20, @10:35AM (#32151184)

So you defend a libeller like JoeBiden76, while claiming you are a citizen of the most prosperous, powerful nation on Earth? And you libel SLP too. Unlike you SLP has a degree and has done work for a living. Which is why your PUNY attempts to shut her up with GOVERNMENT DEATH PANELS is not going to work.

PROOFS/EXAMPLES OF SLPS GOVERNORSHIPS EFFICACY? Ok, below:

http://forums.freerepublic.com/index.php?s=80bbbffc22d358de6b01b8450d596746&showtopic=89123&st=60&start=60

"the use of the bridge to nowhere has worked for me in many ways. for one it raises everyone's taxes, it helps speed up trips to the middle of nowhere as well. if you need more proof i am writing to you from a 400cc snowmobile and i run with ease. If you want my opinion if you stick to what SLP says in her speeches about securing the border with Russia then you will be safe and should not get invaded if Putin rears his head, but if you do get invaded by Russia then it will your own fault. keep up the good fight SLP." - Kings Joker, campaign donor @ FREE REPUBLIC

AND

http://www.hotair.com/forums/showthread.php?s=672ebdf47af75a0c5b0d9e7278be305f&t=28430&page=2

"I recently, months ago when you finally got your manifesto done, had authorization to read it from my Tea Party group. My client, who paid me an ungodly amount of money to do this, has been ABLE TO LAY OFF EMPLOYEES FOR MONTHS WITH EVERYONE DISTRACTED BY YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT DEATH PANELS! I haven't even had a follow up call which is unusual." - THRONKA, user of my guide @ HotAir

AND

"SLP, than

Of course not. Just like Van Jones and the large variety of environmental groups looked the other way on Obama's handling of the Gulf oil spill. Hell the guy was even bold enough to come right out and say it. They're just hypocrites, so no big shock.

Scott Thompson does not really have a CS degree? Elizabeth Warren is not really a Native American?

If this trend in falsifying credentials continues, how long before the revelations that Rich Kyanka did not really attend Turtle Mountain Community College?

I think that the Traditional College system is not the best fit for lot’s of jobs and there are better ways to learn and to show that you have skills.

Harvard Study: Too Much Emphasis On College Education?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2011/0202/Does-everyone-need-a-college-degree-Maybe-not-says-Harvard-study [csmonitor.com] [CC] [MD] [GC]

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/02/harvard-study-hey-maybe-were-placing-too-much-emphasis-on-a-college-education/ [hotair.com] [CC] [MD] [GC]
“It would be fine if we had an alternative system [for students who don’t get college degrees], but we’re virtually unique among industrialized countries in terms of not having another system and relying so heavily on higher education,” says Robert Schwartz, who heads the Pathways to Prosperity project at Harvard’s Graduate School of Education.
Emphasizing college as the only path may actually cause some students – who are bored in class but could enjoy learning that’s more entwined with the workplace – to drop out, he adds. “If the image [of college] is more years of just sitting in classrooms, that’s not very persuasive.”
The United States can learn from other countries, particularly in northern Europe, Professor Schwartz says. In Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, and Switzerland, for instance, between 40 and 70 percent of high-schoolers opt for programs that combine classroom and workplace learning, many of them involving apprenticeships. These pathways result in a “qualification” that has real currency in the labor market”

“It would be fine if we had an alternative system [for students who don’t get college degrees], but we’re virtually unique among industrialized countries in terms of not having another system and relying so heavily on higher education,” says Robert Schwartz, who heads the Pathways to Prosperity project at Harvard’s Graduate School of Education.
Emphasizing college as the only path may actually cause some students – who are bored in class but could enjoy learning that’s more entwined with the workplace – to drop out, he adds. “If the image [of college] is more years of just sitting in classrooms, that’s not very persuasive.”
The United States can learn from other countries, particularly in northern Europe, Professor Schwartz says. In Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, and Switzerland, for instance, between 40 and 70 percent of high-schoolers opt for programs that combine classroom and workplace learning, many of them involving apprenticeships. These pathways result in a “qualification” that has real currency in the labor market”

http://ketchumgroup.net/blog/skills-needed-skills-defined/
“This determination could have long-range impact in the use of diplomas as blanket screening tools. Unlike industry-based certification, diplomas and degrees from schools seldom define demonstrated and assessed skills. This EEOC guidance could speed the adoption of skill-based, industry driven, skill certification. Currently, the US Department of Labor lists over 4,400 industry-based certifications on the Certification Finder at the CareerOneStop.com website. These certifications will rise in importance to employers while education-based credentials may fade. Effective skill development on the job requires a structured approach based on the defined skills used in the workplace. In such a structured OJT workplace, meeting this EEOC guidance will be readily accomplished, and new employees quickly trained in the need skills.”

As soon as it was found LightSquared interfered with GPS (which was a while ago) all permission should have been axed and the company disbanded.

Instead, because of heavy donations to the Democratic party they got the blessing of the FCC to proceed despite actual physical interference to others caused by the product, making it inevitable the company could never go to market.

Some partisans will inevitably come down on me simply because of the origin of that news. But you can't deny the connections and how obvious it was the FCC should NEVER have allowed certification not matter who was involved.

Political connections should NEVER override something as important as allowing experiments that interfere with devices as important as GPS!

I think that the Traditional College system is not the best fit for lot’s of jobs and there are better ways to learn and to show that you have skills.

Harvard Study: Too Much Emphasis On College Education?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2011/0202/Does-everyone-need-a-college-degree-Maybe-not-says-Harvard-study [CC] [MD] [GC]

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/02/harvard-study-hey-maybe-were-placing-too-much-emphasis-on-a-college-education/ [CC] [MD] [GC]
“It would be fine if we had an alternative system [for students who don’t get college degrees], but we’re virtually unique among industrialized countries in terms of not having another system and relying so heavily on higher education,” says Robert Schwartz, who heads the Pathways to Prosperity project at Harvard’s Graduate School of Education.
Emphasizing college as the only path may actually cause some students – who are bored in class but could enjoy learning that’s more entwined with the workplace – to drop out, he adds. “If the image [of college] is more years of just sitting in classrooms, that’s not very persuasive.”
The United States can learn from other countries, particularly in northern Europe, Professor Schwartz says. In Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, and Switzerland, for instance, between 40 and 70 percent of high-schoolers opt for programs that combine classroom and workplace learning, many of them involving apprenticeships. These pathways result in a “qualification” that has real currency in the labor market”

“It would be fine if we had an alternative system [for students who don’t get college degrees], but we’re virtually unique among industrialized countries in terms of not having another system and relying so heavily on higher education,” says Robert Schwartz, who heads the Pathways to Prosperity project at Harvard’s Graduate School of Education.
Emphasizing college as the only path may actually cause some students – who are bored in class but could enjoy learning that’s more entwined with the workplace – to drop out, he adds. “If the image [of college] is more years of just sitting in classrooms, that’s not very persuasive.”
The United States can learn from other countries, particularly in northern Europe, Professor Schwartz says. In Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, and Switzerland, for instance, between 40 and 70 percent of high-schoolers opt for programs that combine classroom and workplace learning, many of them involving apprenticeships. These pathways result in a “qualification” that has real currency in the labor market”

I think that the Traditional College system is not the best fit for lot’s of jobs and there are better ways to learn and to show that you have skills.

Harvard Study: Too Much Emphasis On College Education?
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Education/2011/0202/Does-everyone-need-a-college-degree-Maybe-not-says-Harvard-study

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/02/harvard-study-hey-maybe-were-placing-too-much-emphasis-on-a-college-education/
“It would be fine if we had an alternative system [for students who don’t get college degrees], but we’re virtually unique among industrialized countries in terms of not having another system and relying so heavily on higher education,” says Robert Schwartz, who heads the Pathways to Prosperity project at Harvard’s Graduate School of Education.
Emphasizing college as the only path may actually cause some students – who are bored in class but could enjoy learning that’s more entwined with the workplace – to drop out, he adds. “If the image [of college] is more years of just sitting in classrooms, that’s not very persuasive.”
The United States can learn from other countries, particularly in northern Europe, Professor Schwartz says. In Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, and Switzerland, for instance, between 40 and 70 percent of high-schoolers opt for programs that combine classroom and workplace learning, many of them involving apprenticeships. These pathways result in a “qualification” that has real currency in the labor market”

“It would be fine if we had an alternative system [for students who don’t get college degrees], but we’re virtually unique among industrialized countries in terms of not having another system and relying so heavily on higher education,” says Robert Schwartz, who heads the Pathways to Prosperity project at Harvard’s Graduate School of Education.
Emphasizing college as the only path may actually cause some students – who are bored in class but could enjoy learning that’s more entwined with the workplace – to drop out, he adds. “If the image [of college] is more years of just sitting in classrooms, that’s not very persuasive.”
The United States can learn from other countries, particularly in northern Europe, Professor Schwartz says. In Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, and Switzerland, for instance, between 40 and 70 percent of high-schoolers opt for programs that combine classroom and workplace learning, many of them involving apprenticeships. These pathways result in a “qualification” that has real currency in the labor market”

The list of countries I can go to that are neither 3rd world shit holes, police states, or both is becoming vanishingly small.

Do you think you would help us out with a list of the actual tyrannies you see in action - with a few stipulations?

Terrorism is involves actual violence, such as murder or mass murder, or assisting those who commit violence. It does not consist of voting for the political parties out of power, demonstrations and rallies, writing op-eds, books, plays or poems against government policy or actions.

Guantanamo Bay has never held even 1,000 people ever as prisoners.

Pretty much all of the fights about Habeas Corpus have to do with prisoners held as enemy combatants under the law of war. The US held hundreds of thousands of German prisoners in WW2 and they didn't have any right to Habeas Corpus either. The rules of war are different from the rules under criminal or civil law.

The US only water boarded a total of three people, the most recent of which was almost 9 years ago. To the best of my knowledge it still water boards US pilots as part of their Escape and Evasion training.

Al-Awlaki was killed by a drone for joining Al Qaeda, assisting in planning attacks, and recruiting for them - not for legal dissent. There is no general right for Americans to take up arms against the US government to overthrow it by force of arms, or to otherwise engage in mass murder, or assist those who do. As a matter of war, there was no charge, conviction, or sentence needed under criminal law. He was treated no differently that other American renegades in other wars. He was treated no differently than the large numbers of men shot down en masse, as represented here by the Federal government in a previous conflict.

There is no right to private communications between terrorists who are planning to commit actual violence and their headquarters.

Walking through a metal detector, or a pat down before boarding a plane is not the same thing as not being allowed to travel.

As you can see below the line (-----), there are a constant series of ongoing arrests and convictions for plotted terrorist attacks.

Or perhaps you are worried about the tax code not being progressive enough, but that doesn't hold up either.

So now, what are all these tyrannies that you speak of? Did President Bush round up the Clinton voters? Did President Obama round up the Bush voters? Do people still worship or not worship in the belief of their choice? Do people still pick the school they will attend, or the profession they wish to pursue? Does the government mandate where people will live? Does the press no longer publish what it wants? Does the United States have a President-For-Live yet?

I'm willing to concede that government regulation continues to grow more burdensom - but that is not tyranny.

If the budget problem isn't address, that could lead to a real long term problem though.

Geithner: Why, no, our new budget does nothing to address America’s long-term fiscal crisis

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FBI’s Top Ten News Stories for the Week Ending January 27, 2012

Denver: Man Arrested for Providing Material Support to a Designated Foreign Terrorist Organization

Jamshid Muhtorov was arrested by members of the FBI’s Denver and Chicago Joint Terrorism Task Forces on a charge of providing and attempting to provide material support to the Islamic Jihad Union, a Pakistan-based designated foreign terrori

Well stated.

I was all happy with Mr. Cantor the other day, and now this. Apparently he didn't get the message hard enough.

Mr. Marco Rubio (R, Florida) DOES seem to have gotten the message though. he was one of the SPONSORS of PIPA and he has withdrawn his support from the bill and asked Speaker Reid to withdraw the bill entirely.

So keep the pressure on people! It's working!

You have a strange interpretation of Jim Crow since Occupy protestors clearly appeared involved these crimes:

1. NY: 10/1/2011 Police Arrest More Than 700 Protesters on Brooklyn Bridge
2. Madison, WI: 10-27-2011 Madison Occupiers Lose Permit Due to Public Masturbation
3. Phoenix: 10/28/2011 Flier at Occupy Phoenix Asks, “When Should You Shoot a Cop?”
4. NY: 10/18/2011 Thieves Preying on Fellow Protesters
5. NY: 10/9/2011 Stinking up Wall Street: Protesters Accused of Living in Filth as Shocking Pictures Show One Demonstrator Defecating on a POLICE CAR
6. NY: 10/7/2011 Occupiers Rush Police More
7. Cleveland: 10/18/2011 ‘Occupy Cleveland’ Protester Alleges She Was Raped
8. NY: 10/10/2011 ‘Increasingly Debauched’: Are Sex, Drugs & Poor Sanitation Eclipsing Occupy Wall Street?
9. Seattle: 10/18/2011 Man Accused of Exposing Self to Children Arrested
10. 10/12/2011 Iran Supports Occupy Wall Street
11. Portland: 10/16/2011 #OccupyPortland Protester Desecrates Memorial To U.S. War Dead
12. Portland: 10/15/2011 #OccupyPortland Protesters Sing “F*** The USA”
13. Chicago: 10/17/2011 COMMUNIST LEADER Cheered at Occupy Chicago
14. 10/15/2011 American Nazi Party Endorses Occupy Wall Street‘s ’Courage,‘ Tells Members to Support Protests and Fight ’Judeo-Capitalist Banksters’
15. Boston: 10/14/2011 Coast Guard member spit on near Occupy Boston tents
16. Boston: 10/11/2011 Boston Police Arrest Over 100 from Occupy Boston
17. New York: 10/11/2011 You Can Have Sex with Animals.
18. New York: 10/15/2011 Harassing Police with Accusations of Phony Injuries
19. New York: 10/9/2011 Occupy Wallstreet Protesters Steal from Local Businesses
20. New York: 10/25/2011 Three M

You both asked:

I'm surprised you didn't include Occupy

and answered your own question:

Freedom of speech rights my ass. Occupy doesn't know what their rights are and what they mean, how to deliver a message, or how to work for change. Instead, they come across as a bunch of posers and whiners squatting in the parks and demanding the right to squat there for the rest of their lives while they wait for the world to change itself just because they discovered the world isn't fair.

Despite that, Occupy was the news story of the year to me. It was a brief spark of hope dashed by the incompetence of self-styled "victims" who insult those who know what actual oppression is.

The Occupy movement in the US is essentially the political equivalent of bitcoint: It takes large amounts of valuable time and energy and produces seeming random outputs that are claimed to be valuable but which in fact are largely useless despite the claims of their respective supporters.

Excellent: “Daily Show” on class divisions at Occupy Wall Street

Occupy’s Misogyny

When are the feminists going to speak out on the abuse of women that’s happening at the hands of the Occupy crowd? Rapes and sexual assaults are rampant among the Occupy movement in cities across the nation. According to ABC News, this past Saturday night a 23-year-old reported being raped by a 50-year-old inside a tent at Occupy Philadelphia. Similarly, a 14-year-old child was allegedly raped at Occupy Dallas. And at Occupy Cleveland, a 19-year-old told police she was raped after sharing a tent with an unknown man. After reporting her rape at Occupy Baltimore, a young woman claimed occupiers refused to help find her attacker. Now reports of rape and attempted rape in Zuccotti Park are surfacing. These are just the ones that were reported.

In addition to rapists, suicidal folks are causing emotional distress within the movement. After a 32-year-old man shot himself inside his tent at Occupy Burlington, Vermont protesters were so traumatized that they readily agreed to pack up and end their demonstration.

Besides rapes and suicides, occupiers have injured women in the midst of their shameless attempts to grab attention. A couple weeks ago, I attended Americans for Prosperity’s “Defending the American Dream” Summit, which was crashed by Occupy D.C. I was able to depart safely, with my frightened guests in tow, as protesters hissed vile remarks in our direction. Others weren’t that lucky. The Daily Caller reports that an elderly woman was pushed down the stairs during the occupiers’ stampede into the convention center. Not one protester stopped to help her, even as she lay in pain from severe injuries to her wrists, ankles, and legs.

Despite claiming to represent the 99%, Occupy Wall Street managed to cost at least 91 people their jobs: Milk Street Cafe, FiDi eatery that lost business due to Occupy Wall Street barricades, to close for good

During a time when most city governments have having a very difficult time financially, the Occupy movment jacked up the costs. It cost Oakland CA about $2.4 million, LA is looking at $2.3 million, with some more big bills coming in shortly. Many other cities are in a similar position.

A number of "Occupy" site around the world was hit by revelations that

This story is bad enough until you find out the white house was pressuring people to hide issues related to LightSquared.

And Philip Falcone is a huge donor for the Democratic Party.

I'm not saying Republicans are angles or anything like that. I am saying this a very bad case of corporate ties directly to the whitehouse that is threatening to disrupt a major technology just to make some money...

Idiot.

Found it:

http://media.hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/global-temps-lg.jpg

Let's rename the war on terror to be more accurate too ...

Virtual strip-searches, ball-fondling, never-ending but ineffectual id checks, forcing women to drink their own breast-milk, arbitrary rule enforcement, making everyone go bare-foot, singling-out people by the clothes they wear, forcing people to remove nipple rings with pliers, torturing injured flyers, making people piss on themselves, the list is practically endless.

And yet the TSA hasn't caught a single terrorist.

But they sure are doing a bang-up job of destroying human dignity. Therefore I say we rename the War on Terror to The War on Dignity.

The Chinese government actually subsidizes very few industries - unless you count pegging the currency against the dollar, which is another issue. The real reason Chinese goods are cheaper is that the average Chinese factory worker gets paid about $200 a week for around 100 hours of work. That's $0.50 an hour. That kind of price advantage is enough to ensure dominance in most fields of manufacturing.

There is also an important reason why China wants to promote the solar industry - the sustainable energy industry is of strategic importance to the Chinese. By 2015, 70% of China's oil imports will come from the Middle East oil - a region where U.S. interests have historically been dominant and where China has had no long-standing strategic interests. Simply put, the Chinese want to avoid becoming overly reliant on oil supplies from governments that are allied with the U.S..

This article makes an obvious point regarding government subsidies: "China floated $30 billion in subsidies to its solar sector? Wow, that’s so totally unfair. Why, the US would never stand for such a thing! That’s why Obama included almost $40 billion in green-sector subsidies as part of his 2009 Porkulus package, of which $17 billion has already been spent. And let’s not forget that over a half-billion dollars of that money got spent specifically on Solyndra alone." So, subsidies are okay when the U.S. does it, but bad when China does it?

"Occupy Wall Street" is a fringe movement spouting tired, old, leftist dogma and hate. The only thing it has in common with the "Arab Spring" is that there are threads of anti-Semitism running through both.

Occupy Wall Street Goes Global

Sunday Reflection: Protestors should try occupying reality for real change

Right now, idealistic young Americans are gathered together to fight injustice and build a better world.
Sure, they're a little dirty, and maybe some of their language is a bit rough, but they've left behind family and friends, as well as the creature comforts the rest of us take for granted, to make a stand for what they believe in.

It's just too bad that today the mainstream media is focusing on the spoiled, incoherent clowns of Occupy Wall Street and ignoring our young fighting men and women.

The mainstream media's cameras can't get enough of these pierced protesters, with their crudely written signs proclaiming their unfocused discontent and general anger at society's selfishness in failing to satisfy their every want and desire.

Of course, those cameras discreetly turn away when the placards demanding socialist revolution and blaming the Jews come out. The protesters' function is to demonstrate inchoate outrage simply by being there. When they start talking, they start alienating the normals.

These are Potemkin protesters, community organized by government worker unions to allow liberal Democrats a way to triangulate to the center next year. Only the rebel media outfits will actually stick a mic in the protesters' dirty faces and let them talk.

What comes out is a confused hash of gripes about their banks, complaints about their student loans, and whining about the quality of their jobs.

Tragically, graduates of Ivy League universities brandishing master's degrees in minority women's studies are not getting jobs that pay enough to service their $150,000 student loans. Who could have seen that coming?

PICKET: Occupy Wall Street protesters post manifesto of 'demands'

Nazis and Communists Throw Their Support Behind Occupy Wall Street Movements (Updated)

Occupy L.A. Speaker: Violence will be Necessary to Achieve Our Goals

Video: Occupy Portland Protesters Sing “F*ck the USA”

THOUSANDS Of Obama-Endorsed “Occupy Chicago” Protesters CHEER the Communists (Video)

Wall Street: Occupied by Anti-Semites?

Political party paying Occupy Wall Street protesters?

More Anti-Semitism at Occupy Los Angeles

Coast Guard member spit on near Occupy Boston tents

‘Occupy’ protesters branch out

They call themselves the 99%, but they're a bunch of fringe stragglers with no motivation, no agenda, no goal, no organization, no nothing. They're nothing but a joke, the clearest and most representative expression of leftist thought in America.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1372233

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post_now/post/air-and-space-museum-closes-after-guards-clash-with-protesters/2011/10/08/gIQAx0x2VL_blog.html?hpid=z2\

http://reason.com/blog/2011/10/08/danny-cline-occupy-wall-street\

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/09/occupy-atlanta-gives-john-lewis-the-cold-shoulder/

A personal disaster doesn't prove anything, nor will it change minds.

Al Gore argued (incorrectly) that we can directly attribute Hurricane Katrina to global warming. And every year since 2005, we've had global warming advocates claim that we're going to have record storms that year as proof.

There is a brilliant article on "suicide fantasy" and how some seem to cheer on our own disaster, because it makes them feel better. It vindicates arguments and assuages the guilt of being a despicable White American.

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/12/22/the-suicide-fantasy/

I do believe that global warming occurs, though I don't think we fully understand our impact on the globe. It seems we have two camps.

One thinks this is all a lie and a conspiracy because reducing pollution costs money, and they'd rather not do that. The other side is convinced that SUVs are definitively destroying the planet, but ultimately that is good because it punishes the evil bastards who drive them.

The side I never see is the one clamoring for unbiased, reasonable research. Alarmism generates more funding, so we go with that. We've turned science into partisan politics, which is the same as saying both sides have killed actual science.

That chart has some issues with it. The bush tax cuts may have helped cause the recovery, but the cost of the tax cuts is measured based on the recovery happening. The projection for 8 years of obama is less than the current deficit. All defense for his term is added to Bush, no defense for his term is calculated for Obama. The entire thing is predicated on the president being responsible for all policies, and that fiscal year immediately after a change of hands is fully the responsibility of the previous president (no TARP 2?). It's all bogus.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/20/video-us-launches-stealth-bombers-more-than-100-cruise-missiles-against-libya/ Surprise! Now we are also using fighter to attack ground troops.

It takes a special kind of retard to equate Obama with Mao.

Isn't that a rather harsh way to refer to the Chinese? Seems to have been popular with them.

Is this Anita Dunn’s favorite clothing store?

...on the Bush timetable...

Bush fought a timetable every day of his office from the start of the war until Obama got elected. He finally agreed to a timetable when Maliki openly said during the US election he'd press for Obama's roadmap, and in December 2008 when Bush's options were to either sign the SOFA or go back to the UN and ask for an extension. He chose the former days before the deadline.

Except for FOIA I guess?

Just because Obama has convinced you he's not Bush doesn't mean he's really different.
I guess I'd rather have a wolf than a wolf in sheep's clothing - at least with the wolf, you know everyone's going to be keeping an eye on it.

Like I said in an earlier thread, Obama is turning into a letdown on lots of issues. Here you have a professor in Constitutional law who is still not closing Guantanamo and continuing illegal warrantless wiretaps. I'd like to think he's doing it because of near-unanimous Republican pressure (this vote was pretty clear on the numbers) but I'm still going to fault him for making the bad call. But back to my original point, Obama is not Bush. Bush had lobbyists all over his cabinet, while Obama has made official rules against it and publishes the White House visitor list. Yes, he's fighting FOIAs and I'm disappointed, but that's one issue among dozens.

While Obama has been a letdown on lots of issues, he hasn't really been like Bush.

Hmmm, ok, lets take a look...

Obama is winding down the Iraq war

...on the Bush timetable...

White House a bit more transparent

Except for FOIA I guess?

Just because Obama has convinced you he's not Bush doesn't mean he's really different.
I guess I'd rather have a wolf than a wolf in sheep's clothing - at least with the wolf, you know everyone's going to be keeping an eye on it.

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/18/michelle-obama-hasnt-been-proud-of-america-in-at-least-26-years/

Michelle says some dumb things too...

Harvard study: Hey, maybe we’re placing too much emphasis on a college education http://hotair.com/archives/2011/02/02/harvard-study-hey-maybe-were-placing-too-much-emphasis-on-a-college-education/

And where are these people supposed to work? McDonald's flipping burgers? TFA does mention apprenticeships but how many of those are there? And without exposure to different professions how is a person supposed to know what they will like?

http://educationresearchreport.blogspot.com/2011/02/we-place-far-too-much-emphasis-on.html

That one doesn't name occupations either, only that some "will only require an associate's degree or a post-secondary occupational credential." Why do I ask? Because what are the pay for these occupations? Do they allow advancements? Are the workers easily replaceable by immigrants? And finally can they be outsourced?