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Read about the big news on 5/6 Nov. Alan is installing windows. Alan's diary

I cite November 2nd: The great VM dispute really isn't. It went something along the lines of "Putting a new vm in 2.4.10 is crzy", "Probably it was but its done so lets make it work" and at 2.4.14pre8 "See it works" "Yep".

Happy Halloween!

Always has. Always will (I hope).

Most people don't know this but in the weekly kernel traphic he is usualy listed #1 in volume of messages. He also subscibes to and discuses important isues in many other places from slashdot.org to the kde-licensing mailing list.

BTW: Read his diary. That's how I found out that he is a GNU fundamentalist :). He also is a practical man in terms of software use. I.e. He still disputes Linus' edict that binary only kernel modules are alowed but at the same time he didn't force Telsa to switch to Linux right away. (She uses it now).

Speaking of Telsa. Her site "The more accurate diary. Really." should be requird reading for anyone dateing a Linux geek with serius intentions towards that geek.

Always has. Always will (I hope).

Most people don't know this but in the weekly kernel traphic he is usualy listed #1 in volume of messages. He also subscibes to and discuses important isues in many other places from slashdot.org to the kde-licensing mailing list.

BTW: Read his diary. That's how I found out that he is a GNU fundamentalist :). He also is a practical man in terms of software use. I.e. He still disputes Linus' edict that binary only kernel modules are alowed but at the same time he didn't force Telsa to switch to Linux right away. (She uses it now).

Speaking of Telsa. Her site "The more accurate diary. Really." should be requird reading for anyone dateing a Linux geek with serius intentions towards that geek.

"We also opened the parcel that had arrived, It was a great big book on European copyright law and the net or something equally impenetrable. I sighed; Alan looked delighted."

But that is just making me more curious....

Or are your diaries also subject to the DMCA? I doubt that...

Or are your diaries also subject to the DMCA? I doubt that...

More info linked from here...

Includes links to more DMCA info, and some of Alan's thoughts on the matter

Alan Cox being a major figure in the Linux world. He maintains the 2.2 stable series, as well as a 2.4.x-ac stable series. When Linus Torvalds moves on to the 2.5 Linux development series (soon), Alan will be fully in charge of the current stable 2.4 series.

You should get your facts right.

Compaq Research Labs is not and never was banned from posting patches to him. If you look at rmk's latest patches you will see that he merged quite some Ipaq specific stuff.

I know what you're talking about: a year ago there was a flamewar going on about the SA1100 serial drivers between Russell and Compaq's George France. Both are pretty strong characters, and at a certain point Russell posted that he would put CRL in his personal killfile. At that point I stepped in and stopped the flamewar.

The serial driver stuff is pretty much resolved right now, it even had a positive ending: the serial drivers in linux-2.5 will almost certainly be based on the ideas that arose after this accident.

Your gcc remark is also not true. If you look up the "possible compiler bug" thread in the linux-arm mailing list archive, you can read that he uses Red Hat's gcc-2.96-80 to compile kernels.

I'm glad you like Nicolas Pitre's work, but as you might now Nico only maintains the SA-11x0 port (and works on the XScale). Russell maintains the complete ARM Linux tree, so as you can see Russell and Nico have to work pretty close together. They also pretty much agree on the linux-arm* mailing lists

The good news for you is that Russell integrated quite a large amount of Nico's patch in his latest kernels. See rmk's changelog.

You should get your facts right.

Compaq Research Labs is not and never was banned from posting patches to him. If you look at rmk's latest patches you will see that he merged quite some Ipaq specific stuff.

I know what you're talking about: a year ago there was a flamewar going on about the SA1100 serial drivers between Russell and Compaq's George France. Both are pretty strong characters, and at a certain point Russell posted that he would put CRL in his personal killfile. At that point I stepped in and stopped the flamewar.

The serial driver stuff is pretty much resolved right now, it even had a positive ending: the serial drivers in linux-2.5 will almost certainly be based on the ideas that arose after this accident.

Your gcc remark is also not true. If you look up the "possible compiler bug" thread in the linux-arm mailing list archive, you can read that he uses Red Hat's gcc-2.96-80 to compile kernels.

I'm glad you like Nicolas Pitre's work, but as you might now Nico only maintains the SA-11x0 port (and works on the XScale). Russell maintains the complete ARM Linux tree, so as you can see Russell and Nico have to work pretty close together. They also pretty much agree on the linux-arm* mailing lists

The good news for you is that Russell integrated quite a large amount of Nico's patch in his latest kernels. See rmk's changelog.

PEACE,
BUDDYHEAD

I think this is a great step in the right direction, but unfortunately most kernel changes and additions are to drivers in the kernel, not the core kernel components. Many times it happens that the driver for device x gets broken in kernel revision y. This isn't because the driver developer was slacking off, each developer only has a limited amount of hardware he or she can test it on.

Granted that's why there's the whole "pre" patch testing process and I'm sure the OSDL will have a nice selection of hardware, but it sounds like they're more focused on core kernel develop, which is great, but if enough people don't test the drivers the problems can't be found and unfortunately Alan Cox has a limited amount of space in his house. He can't keep every possible configuration, so we all need to try and test those kernels more, I know I too am guilty of not trying out enough patches, but we can all do more to make this kernel even better.

KidA

Each of these notices of a hardware vendor dropping a product are good news for the Linux Hackers out there. I've got an I-Opener running Linux and a Compaq IA for that matter, which is still a shipping product.

I'm also deeply involved in the TuxScreen project. This is a discontinued WebPhone that used to sell for $650 running Inferno. The remaining discontinued units are now available to Linux hackers everywhere for $99 usd. ARM Linux is now running on the devices, so they at least work as an X terminal.

The challenge with each of these discontinued hardware "bargins" is to get enough technical details from the original vendor to make them useful to Linux Hackers.

Linux on your phone, now that's hot ;-)

Good luck and happy hacking!

MOD THIS UP YOU FUCKING COMPUTER NERDS! i'm sick and fucking tired of you four eyed pieces of shit who smell nasty as fuck being soo gay. look at the type of people you idolize. here, lemmy give you some links:

ESR
RMS
linus torvalds
alan cox
alan cox's wife

i really wonder how many of you fucks on here look like these people? most of you? you fucking computer nerds make me sick!

MOD THIS UP YOU FUCKING COMPUTER NERDS! i'm sick and fucking tired of you four eyed pieces of shit who smell nasty as fuck being soo gay. look at the type of people you idolize. here, lemmy give you some links:

ESR
RMS
linus torvalds
alan cox
alan cox's wife

i really wonder how many of you fucks on here look like these people? most of you? you fucking computer nerds make me sick!

I found this on Alan Cox's site. I can't verify it's truth but it was an interesting read.

Imagine Dmitry Sklyarov had been a US citizen seized in eastern europe.

Why, the Linux TCP stack originally came from Swansea University, thanks to Alan Cox -- as any dmesg can tell you.

Or are you attempting to imply something, troll?

Why, the Linux TCP stack originally came from Swansea University, thanks to Alan Cox -- as any dmesg can tell you.

Or are you attempting to imply something, troll?

I don't know about Rob, but any company Alan Cox works for is good enough for me. Linux is Linux, and damn it, we need to support all distributions and stop being so snobby. We need to quit these X is better then Y distribution wars and focus on becoming a better operating system for all. Each distribution out there brings both good and bad features to the table. Maybe if we all work together instead of sit on elitiest high horses we can actually take some market share away from Micro$oft so we won't have to worry about poor security and a million viruses connecting to our port 80's. I don't know if X is better then Y, but I think every linux distribution I know seems better then Windows. Peace out...

See http://www.linux.org.uk/

where to start (-;

the 720 if I recall is a StrongARM powered ( info on devices http://arm.sourceforge.net )

now yes you can get netBSD 1.5.1 for it but you have to do some hacking but there is a step by step guide somewhere

linux wise you can get the source for the kernel @ http://www.arm.linux.org.uk Mr R. King has done alot of work so say thank you to him (dont pester him he wont answer just join the mailing list )

you can also get the familar project up and running from http://www.handhelds.org

Debian is achived by http://intimate.handhelds.org/develstructure.shtml so apt into it (-;

have fun

john jones

The GNOME packaging project provides RPMS of GNOME 1.4. See here for the files.

When above.net were hassling ORBS last year, Alan Cox mentioned that it was looking suspiciously like Vixie was planning to take MAPS commercial. See the July 17th entry in his diary.

The exact paragraph:

At this stage, we were running out of time, so he speeded up :) One huge thing that helped KDE and would probably benefit other very big projects was that KDE had the KDE Summit which was sponsored by Trolltech. When you get all the people in same place, then magic happens. At the KDE one, Matthias Ettrich and Preston Brown got drunk to the stage of claiming "We could write better than CORBA. Hic. In a day!" The next day, of course, everyone reminded them about this claim, so they had to do something about it. 36 hours later, DCOM (?) emerged. There was a similar effect with KOffice, which came on by leaps and bounds as a result of the summit. So, if you're big enough to get sponsors, get your people all in one place and watch the results pour out.

This probably (hopefully!) isn't the whole story though :-).

Remember the two things that Finland is most famous for - Nokia and Linus Torvalds. Alan Cox also visited their HQ in Finland last year. Rumours are that they are pretty serious about Linux.

HH

You are delusional.

Windows has existed in its present forms for about five years.

I presume you are judging the OS by the GUI. Windows NT version 3.1 was released on July 17, 1993. The GUI was different, but the architecure was there, care of David Cutler.

That was the release date. Microsoft recruited David Cutler in 1988, well before Linus started.

Superior UI? Look at the quality of window managers. I'm sorry, but Sawfish, Window Maker and Enlightenment all kick Windows' butt when it comes to utility and control. And themability makes them look good too.

OO Architecture? Um, I think you'll find Gnome and KDE are riddled with OO.

Greater variety of hardware? NT had x86, Alpha, MIPS, even PowerPC, but they're all unsupported now. The free OS's easily wipe microsoft's peachy behind with their portability and the number of actual ports. All of those above plus loads more.

They've had the desktop market since the PC clone became popular. There wasn't a real desktop market before this. They didn't take that from anyone.

Yes, NT is taking share from Unix. But the free OS's, chiefly Linux, along with the rise of the Internet, is challenging this.

MSFT has perhaps produced a greater volume of useful code in five years than anyone else ever has
No, they just keep re-releasing the same code with new bells and whistles. The bulk of the code has been made by other companies, later bought up by MS.

Perhaps you can tell I do not like MS. I grew up with MS and I used to love their products. I still like the style of their early manuals (when you got them). But maturity and familiarity have given me perspective. I think you need some too.

And uLinux runs on architectures like the DragonBall, and other things too. I don't know of a complete list anywhere.

The couple of online diaries that I read aren't anything like that at all. Alan Cox's diary is mainly about the linux stuff that he's working on or some other project at home. His wife's diary can be down right hilarious at times (the recent mouse problem, why did Alan buy 5 alarm clocks off ebay, etc.). She sometimes has links to pages with pictures of the conferences that they attend.

The couple of online diaries that I read aren't anything like that at all. Alan Cox's diary is mainly about the linux stuff that he's working on or some other project at home. His wife's diary can be down right hilarious at times (the recent mouse problem, why did Alan buy 5 alarm clocks off ebay, etc.). She sometimes has links to pages with pictures of the conferences that they attend.

Well, here you go, (Alan Cox's daily journal).

For reference while shopping, the Video4Linux home page lists major hardware types. V4Linux is included in recent distributions, particularly with the 2.4 kernel. As I noted elsewhere, some manufacturers not listed here also mention Linux.

CTRL-R in bash. bash has a very rich feature set with command history. check out the man page.

ksh and bash have all the features you could want. Unfortunately, commercial unix vendors ship everything as user hostile as possible, and ksh is totally unconfigured. Even Alan Cox posted a rant about hp sending a box with ksh, he had trouble with it. So I don't feel so bad.

Thanks to some HP/UX wizard son the linux hppa porting list I now have the HP/UX box believing that subnet zero is legal. I've downloaded large chunks of ftp.gnu.org and it is currently building enough to make the machine usable. It's amazing how much you miss -good- unix command line tools after you get used to Linux and the GNU ones. How Unix vendors can ship ancient shells with no job control and no cursor editing by default and still wonder why people buy NT is beyond me.
--Alan Cox

155kb/sec for me. Get it there, folks. Really. ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/linux-2.4/linux-2 .4.0.tar.gz

ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/linux-2.4/linux-2 .4.0.tar.gz

--
Kiro

Might not be what you're looking for, however...

Alan Cox posted this link to LKML a few months ago. It contains the early LKML posts, dating back to 1993. This prompted a post from tytso, who gave out this link to even earlier posts.

Sure they should be held accountable, if they've truly released a horribly buggy sytem. But it doesn't sound like they have. Alan Cox, in his diary says:

Watching the bugs collect on Red Hat 7, but nothing too much so far, the only obvious outstanding bug is the installer one where it decides it can't find a device on NTFS (?) partitions being included.

According to the latest stable kernel's Release Notes, there are separate source trees for MIPS, ARM, 68k and S/390. Looks reasonable too, it's a wildly different architecture. Heck, IBM themselves could maintain it.

I'm thus surprised that this story appears now.

Well, a better "summary" is at Alan's page here.

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Apparently Lokkit was written by Alan Cox hizzelf. It's another firewalling script/utility that may be of interest, and you can find it here.

Linus Torvalds --> Married, two daughters (see here)
Alan Cox --> Married, no kids (see here)

Your problems are likely not Athlon or KDE related.

It may instead have to do with what kernel you're running. Apparently, the later 2.3.XX kernels have VM performance issues, and Alan Cox's Diary hints that 2.2.15 also may have some issues. (I'd give an exact entry date, except that I can't seem to get to the site right now. It was sometime in the last week or two.) I looked at the SuSE USA website, and noticed that SuSE 6.4 comes with Kernel 2.2.14. I'm not sure if it has the same VM issues that Alan was referring to wrt. 2.2.15.

Interestingly, from what I remember reading in the Linux Kernel mailing list archives, the problems are worse on large-memory machines.

PS. Why is it that nobody seems to be able to spell A T H L O N correctly?

I believe the official slashdotian position on this subject has already been handed down by Alan Cox. :-)

To paraphrase : "WAP Sucks".

Free Music

If you are looking at porting GNU/Linux/Unix apps, then it is generally pretty easy. The older, and better written apps tend to port more cleanly, along with anything that uses `configure` to resolve system dependancies. I used to work on a University suport team and we would have to compile the same application for HP/UX, Linux, SunOS, Solaris and NeXTStep. Most stuff went cleanly, or with a few tweaks to take care of libs.

It can't be too hard, since there are a couple of linux-based ARM machines out there already. Most closely related to your interests is the netwinder. Be sure to check out http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/

- Mike

http://www.linux.org.uk/VERSION/ relnotes.2215.html

Cheers.

I don't understand why you expect to find a ChangeLog in these places, since none has ever existed there before.

You can grab the changes from a Linux Today search. For example, here are the 2.2.15-pre17 changes, which is pretty close to 2.2.15 proper.

And eventually the changes will also be posted by Alan Cox on the Linux.Org.UK home page along with the other 2.2.x release notes.

Jeff