Domain: mozdev.org
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Extensions
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Re:Mozilla Firebird seems better
To clarify the parent's Ctrl+Enter shortcut (which I assume is from the URL bar), you can type in yahoo[Ctrl+Enter], and be taken to http://www.yahoo.com/. In Mozilla, you type in yahoo[Enter] and you're taken to http://www.yahoo.com/. If you type yahoo[Ctrl+Enter], you get http://www.yahoo.com/ in a new tab (or window). To get a URL in a new tab in Mozilla Firebird, you have to hit [Alt+Enter], and I find [Ctrl+Enter] is more natural.
The mouse scrolling plugin for Mozilla is available at http://autoscroll.mozdev.org/installation.html. It is the same code Mozilla Firebird uses, just Mozilla Firebird includes it by default. I wouldn't be surprised if Mozilla includes it soon as well.
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Re:This will help a lot.
You should install the Tabbrowser Extensions... the "multiple tab window closing confirmation" feature has been there for quite some time. Not to mention all the other great options and features. If you like tabs, you really should intall it.
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Re:Draggable tabs
This is my one feature request: Draggable tabs. There is no way to rearrange the order that the tabs are displayed in - you should be able to drag them left and right in the browser window. Once you open a tab, you are stuck with its position relative to your other tabs.
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Mouse Gestures
Great! But Mozilla isn't complete until you've got MOUSE GESTURES. Honestly, I've found that mouse gestures coupled with tabbed browsing is such a more pleasant experience than anything that Microsoft is peddling. It seems that the best innovation is still coming from elsewhere and Microsoft is playing catch-up. Didn't I hear about IE having tabbed browsing in the next release?
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Re:No Galeon?Last I tried Ephipany is lacked the ability to disable popups.
According to this screen shot taken from the website, it does - at least in version 0.80. -
In slightly related news
Epiphany 0.8 is released. Epiphany is scheduled to become the official web browser for the Gnome desktop environment (GDE). It is based on the gecko rendering engine and has a simple easy to use interface.
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Re:Moz better than Safari at the moment
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Re:Mozdev?
I believe their mailing lists/newsgroups were having problems because of a DOS attack. From what I hear, they are being set back up. More info is available in the project owners mailing list archives.
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Re:Mozdev?
mozdev.org is independent of mozilla.org and always has been, so they should not be affected by this announcement in any way (besides benefiting from any positive press Mozilla receives).
Note that mozdev.org has recently completed a very successful fundraising drive.
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Mozdev?
Any ideas on how/if Mozdev will be affected by this? (short/long term?)
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Re:To save you all some time...
Speaking of Google, the highlighting feature has already been available in both IE and Mozilla for some time, via the Google toolbar or the workalike Googlebar, respectively. Just type in your keywords, hit the "highlight all terms" button, and this highlighting comes up instantly. The toolbar takes up some space, but at least the feature is available as an extension.
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Easy way to convert IE users...
1. Install Mozilla.
2. Use IE theme.
3. Replace all IE icons with links to Mozilla instead.
4. Joe User doesn't know anything has changed, yet they're using a much better browser.
5. ????
6. Profit!
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Re:Free registration
There are ads at the New York Times? I thought they did away with those months ago. Oh wait... that's just when I started using adblock.
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Re:Ahh, but you see..."I always get disoriented when I fire up IE instead of Moz, because IE adds all those stupid click sounds when you click on links."
Same here, except my disorientation from IE comes from the fact that I run mozilla at work with an IE skin (go to themes.mozdev.org to get it) so that I don't raise the eyebrows of all the people walking by. When I actually use IE on some other machine, I try to open a new tab and then wonder 'wtf?' and after that I remember that I'm using real IE. Since my work PC does not have speakers, I don't worry about any of the windows sound effects.
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Why stop there
Why stop at replacing the mozilla throbber, go to mozdev.org and get the Internet Explorer theme for mozilla to complete the look and feel.
i know some will say that this defeats the purpose of mozilla advocacy, but those that dont care about which browser they are using aren't going to care anyway.
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Re:So what's your next big idea for Mozilla, then?
Why can't modern browsers automatically organize bookmarks?
I suggest you have a look at Epiphany, the browser that is to be the default browser for GNOME 2.4. -
Re:I loved the IBM model M keyboard key caps...
But what the hell do you FIND on these menus that's useful?
It depends on the program...in Visual Studio, for instance, a couple of options that come up if you hit the menu key on a variable let you go to where that variable is declared or defined. Maybe there's a more direct keyboard shortcut that does the same thing, but it's difficult to keep up on every keyboard shortcut for every program (especially for something that's particular to one program).
I'm not claiming that the menu key is useful everywhere, but your claim that it's useful nowhere doesn't track with my experience. If you don't like it, nobody's forcing you to use it...there's usually more than one way to get something done, and which method someone prefers is likely to be determined by previous experience. (For instance, some people are under the impression that mouse gestures are the greatest thing since sliced bread. This page leads me to believe otherwise...why bother with remembering some squiggle to draw with a mouse to (for instance) change tabs when Ctrl-Tab does the same thing?)
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Re:some quick ones
Download the Optimoz mouse gestures plug-in if you want to see something you really can't live without... I find it like mouse scroll wheels; I try to use it even when in another browser.
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Spell Check
This release still does not include a spell checker. I actually had to delete the old spell checker plugin to get the new Mozilla version to install without crashing.
Judging from the lack of response from http://spellchecker.mozdev.org/ I am not the only person interested in this feature. Unfortunately, the attitude of the developers seems to be "learn 2 spell, 100z3r".
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Crash recovery
Not perfect yet, but being worked on: http://recall.mozdev.org/.
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Re:Why is Firebird that wonderful?
In addition, NONE of my XUL/XPI/whatever plug-ins/skins work. The plug-ins and tabs are what makes Moz worth running in my opinion.
That's strange. None of my XUL/XPI/whatever plugins don't work in Firebird and there are considerably more of them available for Firebird than for Mozilla (74 for Firebird vs. 51 for Mozilla extensions at last count at http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/index.html and 55 themes for Firebird http://texturizer.net/firebird/themes.html vs. about 25 for Mozilla http://themes.mozdev.org/)
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Re:Why is Firebird that wonderful?
In addition, NONE of my XUL/XPI/whatever plug-ins/skins work. The plug-ins and tabs are what makes Moz worth running in my opinion.
That's strange. None of my XUL/XPI/whatever plugins don't work in Firebird and there are considerably more of them available for Firebird than for Mozilla (74 for Firebird vs. 51 for Mozilla extensions at last count at http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/index.html and 55 themes for Firebird http://texturizer.net/firebird/themes.html vs. about 25 for Mozilla http://themes.mozdev.org/)
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Re:Proprietary Features
Actually, there is a spellchecker available for Mozilla - http://spellchecker.mozdev.org. It's planned to be included into Mozilla at some point - hopefully soon.
However, no AOL icons available, sorry. :)
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Re:Netscape?
(spell checker can be added on to mozilla)
I keep seeing that, but nobody has posted a link, so I will. http://spellchecker.mozdev.org/ -
Re:middle-wheel click to scroll
Does this not do what you want???
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Re:middle-wheel click to scroll
It's the 6th one down. Autoscroll works fine in Firebird, I assume that it'll work fine in the other Mozilla variants as well.
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Re:middle-wheel click to scroll
it's called Autoscroll. Find it here. Most Mozilla extensions have incomprehensible names that aren't suggestive of what they do
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Caveat: it might disable middle-click-on-link functionality. That would suck. -
middle-wheel click to scroll
Is there any way to enable IE-like wheel-button click-to-scroll behaviour?? Mozilla would be OK if I could simply click my wheel button and zoom down a page. I've searched for an extension but no joy so far.
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Also released recently
Is Epiphany 0.73, the popular gnome browser. The fonts don't suck either thanks to gtk2/xft/vera/fontconfig. Screenshot
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Why linux will NEVER be on the desktop
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Epiphany sucks!
Ever wonder why Apple chose khtml? Just check out the screenshot section. Its also why you lot don't get laid!
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Re:I don't care
You need to be using a lunix web browser, like epiphany.
Developed by geeks that never get laid, for trolls. -
Re:RPMs
The mozilla.org tarballs don't include the development headers. The RPM packages do. If you want to compile Epiphany, Galeon, Skipstone, or one of the other fine gecko-based browsers, you have to have these installed. The alternative, if you don't want to use the packages, is to either compile mozilla from scratch also (fine if you have 12 hours or so free), or pick the relevant parts out of the mozilla source tree and manually install them somewhere yourself. Of course, you can install any of the above browsers from binary packages...but these will have a dependency on the RPMs for Mozilla, so you will have to have them installed then too unless you want to break your distribution's package system.
Not to mention the fact that the Mozilla binary releases usually have a lowest-common-denominator feature set enabled, and are unlikely to have support for Xft, or GTK 2.x, etc. -
Re:from the release notes
It's disabled because it's not exactly "complete" yet. I don't use it, but I've heard that it pretty much sucks. Supposedly the SmoothWheel extension does it better, though I haven't tried that one, either. I like my jerky old scrolling.
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Re:why i won't switch to lightweight firebirdnot to mention that Firebird also lacks the ability to be set to compare the page in the cache to the current page everytime the page is loaded.
This is not true. Remember that the engine, Gecko is common between the two, so something this low-level would definitely be the same on both. Unfortunately phoenix isn't as polished, so the preferences aren't settable out of the box (hopefully this will change soon!)
Solution: Get Advanced Prefernces. Go to browser.cache.check_doc_frequency, edit it to (1). Of course, you can also modify your stylesheet to set this property.. but I like adv. prefs, lots of stuff to tweak.
Please check out all the extenstions!!!
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Re:why i won't switch to lightweight firebird
As others have pointed out, there are many short alternatives in Firebird. You can CTRL-K to the search field. Only two keys. You can CTRL-L to the location field and get an "I Feel Lucky" Google search. Only two keys, plus you go straight to what you want if you're lucky. You can add a special bookmark for keyword searches. You don't have to go to the mouse for any of these (and if you're leaving your hand on your mouse non-stop while reading web pages, I feel sorry for your wrist).
I felt similar to you until I learned all these other shortcuts. Now I can't live without it. The real seller for me was that the Firebird search field can gain more searches thanks to the Mycroft project at mozdev.org. Mine has searches for Dictionary.com, Thesaurus.com, Wikipedia, IMDB, Amazon, eBay, PriceWatch and PriceGrabber, and a few others. -
GoogleBar
This is what the googlebar is for
I can't imagine life without it, and if it wasn't ported to Mozilla/Phoenix, I wouldn't have switched from IE -
Re:khtml rocksI've used IE, Opera, and Firebird, and the latter two are both far superior to IE once you get used to them. Try it, you'll like it, if only for the popup blocking and ability to head on over to (in the case of Mozilla, which includes Firebird) Mozdev and download a number of cool extensions like an ad blocker and new themes.
I think that basically the big difference is that non-IE browsers tend to be oriented toward the needs of the user, and IE is optimized toward the foisting of crap on the hapless user. IE still lets javascript open popup windows randomly and utterly without supervision, unless they've changed something recently.
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Re:Microsoft vs. Google
Cool, but I want it for Mozilla! Not Windows. Check out the Google toolbar for Mozilla
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Re:general.smoothScroll
I use the SmoothWheel extension.
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Re:Java
More good stuff for porn link farms (aka TGPs):
Bookmarklets (mini-extensions)
remove redirects - turns those annoying redirecting links that only redirect you to the correct site 20% of the time into real links
hide visited links - most useful for TGPs that use images (thumbnails) to link to galleries, since it's often hard to tell whether an image link is visited or not.
linked images - opens a window showing all the images linked to by the current page
increment, decrement - change the last number in the URL by 1 with 1 click.
make numbered list of links - for when you want to use increment/decrement but some pages in the sequence are missing
zoom images in, zoom images out
zap - fixes text/background/link colors and removes some common annoyances
go to referer - lets you go "back" one page after opening a link (e.g. to an image) in a new tab
User style sheet rules
Look for "Always show a border around image links" on this page. It puts a solid blue border around unvisited image links and a dashed purple border around visited image links. The Mozilla version does not interfere with site layouts.
You can also use user style sheet rules to mark or hide links to known-junk domains. This may save you slightly more time than adding those domains to your hosts file.
Extensions
linky - includes "open selected links in new tabs"
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Re:Amateur
Any professional pornographer has a mouse with a middle button so he can middle-click the link to open it in a new tab. Do you realize Control-Click requires both hands?
Porn joke aside, the middle click is a godsend. Even better, though, is linky which goes in immediately after a new install. heck, I even went so far as to mod my daily reading list to better make use of the plugin.Yeah I prob do spend too much time surfing, but it's little things like this that make that possible
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Re:Java
"Moz is well suited for surfing porn link farms since you can quickly control-click (to open in new tab) down a link list"
You can set-up middle-click to open in new tab, which is a useful enough feature to use constantly.
Something you might find useful is Linky, which opens all links from a page in new tabs (watch out for navbars opening the whole site plus adverts), or Leech, which usefully downloads all linked files (set it to images, MP3s, whatever) to a local directory.
(stability hint: make sure the directory exists first)
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"Moz is well suited for surfing porn link farms since you can quickly control-click (to open in new tab) down a link list"
You can set-up middle-click to open in new tab, which is a useful enough feature to use constantly.
Something you might find useful is Linky, which opens all links from a page in new tabs (watch out for navbars opening the whole site plus adverts), or Leech, which usefully downloads all linked files (set it to images, MP3s, whatever) to a local directory.
(stability hint: make sure the directory exists first)
Of course, you could just use "wget --recursive --span-hosts", and use kuickview... -
Spellchecker for Mozilla Here
You can download a spellchecker for Mozilla here;
http://spellchecker.mozdev.org/
It also includes links to non - american english dictionaries, I have been using the UK english one with some builds very happily.
The version for Mozilla 1.4 Beta is already there. I use Mozilla as my only mail client at work and have been using this for over a year without any major problems. If only it could test spelling in input boxes, I could even spell check my slashdot comments :-). -
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Re:The most important item was missed in this storIf you want more features don't forget to donate
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Re:0000 hrs UTC
I have never seen any of the above implemented.
Haven't really looked, have you?
Mozilla
Firebird
BannerBlind
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Re:0000 hrs UTC
I have never seen any of the above implemented.
Haven't really looked, have you?
Mozilla
Firebird
BannerBlind
AdBlock