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Given the amount of money the BSA thinks is being lost to software piracy, they would have implemented such measures already if it were practical.

Side note: Wisely, the BSA runs its web site using free software.

"Another serious setback for Linux is the lack of a journalling file system. Hu, get out.

"It just isn't there yet! Too bad I will have to wait many years for Linux to become a viable option in the operating system arena."Too bad it can't run on any of the worlds busiest websites. Slashdot recieves close to 2 million hits a day. I wonder what OS slashdot runs on?

"Please, let us also be honest and present Linux and all its many shortcomings when you are downtalking Windows."....and please be honest and present Windows and all its many shortcomings when you are downtalking linux.

No OS is perfect but the fact of the matter is over a that over a third of websites run linux and we are the fastest growing OS out there. Only Windows and Macos has more users. I couldn't find the link in time( I have better thigs to do). This shows linux is not as bad as many like you think. Sure no OS is perfect but the links above show linux is quite powerfull and ready for the enterprise in most situations. Alot more then Windows I may add.Also I am very suspicious with anyone with the word troll in there name.

according to Netcraft, www.designtechnica.com is running Apache/1.3.19 (Unix) FrontPage/4.0.4.3. So no IIS.

-sam

First, 43 times is a lot more than the absurd "twice" claimed by the original poster. Your retort is anemic at best.

Second, 305 is about 600% more than 43. You can say it's 7 times as many, if you're trying to be honest.

Third, the U.S. government maintains far more hosts on the 'Net than the U.K. government does. Netcraft records only 1073 web sites in gov.uk, and 6290 -- that's nearly 5.86 times as many -- hosts in .gov. And that's just web servers.

I don't claim the U.S. is a whole lot better at securing their hosts than the U.K., but the converse is certainly unsupported by the evidence.

Goatse.cx runs Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) on Linux!!!!!!

I am amazed that someone didn't point this out earlier. I went to Netcraft and just typed the Goatse.cx address in the search and vollia, up comes these magic words!!! "Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) on Linux"

Lets all rejoice at our Goatse brethren who share with us in this great thing called Linux.


GO SEE FOR YOURSELF WHAT GOATSE.CX RUNS!

Anyone know the IP address of Goatse.cx? If we use this instead of the address most people know it will fool many more people into going to Goatse!!!

See for yourself.

NetCraftThe site www.cnn.com is running Netscape-Enterprise/4.1 on Solaris

The site www.msnbc.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000

Somebody please make this visible to the entire MS sales team. It's 1:26pm EST, and STILL cannot get into MSNBC.com!!!

NetCraftThe site www.cnn.com is running Netscape-Enterprise/4.1 on Solaris

The site www.msnbc.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000

Somebody please make this visible to the entire MS sales team. It's 1:26pm EST, and STILL cannot get into MSNBC.com!!!

Covalent is confident that the next generation Apache is mature and is ready for prime time.

And i thought it was already mature enough, otherwise why did it become the most popular web server?

btw, what is new with apache 2.0? (i am too lazy to read the docs ;-)

1. iol.it Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) on Linux
   
2. www.virgilio.it Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) on Solaris
   
3. msn.it Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000
   
4. supereva.it Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) on Linux
   
5. tiscali.it Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) on Linux
   
6. yahoo.com unknown on FreeBSD
   
7. microsoft.com Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000
   
8. msn.com Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000
   
9. yahoo.it unknown on FreeBSD
   
10. www.clarence.com Apache/1.3.12 (Unix) on Linux
    
11. kataweb.it Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) on Solaris
    
12. inwind.it Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) on Linux
    
13. passport.com Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000
    
14. jumpy.it Squid/2.3.STABLE4 on Solaris
    
15. www.tripod.it Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) on Linux
    
16. xoom.it Apache/1.2.5 on FreeBSD
    
17. gsmbox.com Apache/1.3.17 (Unix) on Linux
    
18. lycos.it Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) on Linux
    
19. tuttogratis.it Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) on Linux.
    
20. altavista.it Resin/1.2.1 on Linux
    

"What exactly is my host using anyway?" Why not let netcraft have a sniff at it? 'twill give you the OS anyway.

Prove it. Check out NetCraft.com

"Linux is the second most commonly used operating system. Linux has been consistently gaining share since this survey started, but interestingly not significantly to Windows detriment. Operating systems which have lost share have been Solaris and other proprietary operating systems, and to a small degree BSD."

Solaris, their operating system, has few advantages over Linux, nowadays. Frankly, without adding the GNU tools, Solaris is virtually unusable! (And, who's gonna pay $10k for their compiler when GCC does the job?)

Sun is about to hit a brick wall. Unless they change direction dramatically, Linux is going to gobble them up, just as SGI consumed Cray. Cray was meaningful for a long time, until the capabilities of "Minis" (as Supercomputer folk like to refer to UNIX machines) silently approched the power of super computers at a fraction of the cost.

The same is happening with Linux-Sun. For a small fraction of the cost, Linux on commodity hardware (Intel) is approching the power of Sun's products. It's inevitable, without some sigificant change.

"Linux is the second most commonly used operating system. Linux has been consistently gaining share since this survey started, but interestingly not significantly to Windows detriment. Operating systems which have lost share have been Solaris and other proprietary operating systems, and to a small degree BSD."

Solaris, their operating system, has few advantages over Linux, nowadays. Frankly, without adding the GNU tools, Solaris is virtually unusable! (And, who's gonna pay $10k for their compiler when GCC does the job?)

Sun is about to hit a brick wall. Unless they change direction dramatically, Linux is going to gobble them up, just as SGI consumed Cray. Cray was meaningful for a long time, until the capabilities of "Minis" (as Supercomputer folk like to refer to UNIX machines) silently approched the power of super computers at a fraction of the cost.

The same is happening with Linux-Sun. For a small fraction of the cost, Linux on commodity hardware (Intel) is approching the power of Sun's products. It's inevitable, without some sigificant change.

Check it out.

This according to the Netcraft link in the article. Lower TCO, better uptime...

You mean an NT server like this? Oh, the irony ...

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.lind ows.com

If that isn't enough reason to be suspicious, I don't know what is!

The site www.freebsddiary.org is running Apache/1.3.20 (Unix) mod_throttle/3.1.2 mod_gzip/1.3.19.1a PHP/4.0.6 mod_ssl/2.8.4 OpenSSL/0.9.6 on FreeBSD.

FreeBSD users include www.yahoo.com, The Apache Project and Sony Japan

Well i don't see why this has to be a troll, considering some osdn sites are already running Windows 2000 and IIS.

Well, it's pretty easy to have a look at goatse.cx's uptime...

The Ravens' official website is running
IIS 4.0 on NT4/Windows98 and they still lost. The OS had nothing to do with their loss.

Yes, I know this article is a joke and so is this post. Go on and laugh.

Adequacy is dying

Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered Adequacy community when last month Slashdot confirmed that Adequacy accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all trolling. Coming on the heels of the latest Geekizoid survey which plainly states that Adequacy has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Adequacy is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by placing third-to-last in AST's recent listing of top five trollsites.

You don't need to be a streetlawyer [geocities.com] to predict Adequacy.org [adequacy.org]'s future. The hand writing is on the wall: Adequacy [adequacy.org] faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Adequacy.org [adequacy.org] because Adequacy [adequacy.org] is dying. Things are looking very bad for Adequacy [adequacy.org]. As many of us are already aware, Adequacy [adequacy.org] continues to lose site traffic.

Let's try to keep the facts and look at the numbers.

Slashdot [washington.edu] leader Rob "CmdrTaco" [cmdrtaco.net] Malda states that there are about 5000 semi-regular posters to Slashdot.org [washington.edu]. How many users of Geekizoid [geekizoid.com] are there? The ratio of Slashdot [washington.edu] to Geekizoid [geekizoid.com] posts is roughly in ratio of 100 to 1. Therefore there are about 5000/100 = 50 occasional Geekizoid [geekizoid.com] posters. The ratio of Adequacy [adequacy.org] posters to Geekizoid [geekizoid.com] posters is about 5 to 1. Therefore there are 50 * 5 = 250 occasional posters to Adequacy.org [adequacy.org]. This is approximately equal to the number of editors [adequacy.org] listed on Adequacy [adequacy.org]'s website added to the eleven non-editors who read the site.

Traffic [adequacy.org] to Adequacy [adequacy.org] continues to diminish. In July 2001, Adequacy [adequacy.org] received approximately 160,000 pageviews. In August, Adequacy [adequacy.org] received only 80,000 pageviews. The number of pageviews in September (as of September 10, when Adequacy cowardlyly hid their statistics) is 60,000, a paltry 37% of its July traffic. At current rates, the amount of Adequacy [adequacy.org] traffic will hit 0 by the end of the year.

According to Netcraft [netcraft.com], Adequacy [adequacy.org]'s situation is grim. Due to the troubles of Speakeasy DSL [speakeasy.org], DoS attacks and so on, Adequacy [adequacy.org] was forced out of business and was taken over by JAT Computer Consulting [jatnet.com] which hosts another troubled website [geekizoid.com]. Now JAT Computer Consulting [jatnet.com] is also dying, its corpse being turned over to another charnel house.

All major surveys show that Adequacy [adequacy.org] has steadily declined in readership. Adequacy [adequacy.org] is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Adequacy [adequacy.org] is to survive at all it will be among right-wing maniacs [mynra.com], Libertarians [nazi.org], and trolls [kuro5hin.org]. Adequacy [adequacy.org] continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle [thepope.org] could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Adequacy.org [adequacy.org] is dead.

Adequacy is dying

Apache is successfully competing with IIS, in fact it is in the lead. You can validate this here.

Why do you even post here? I read somewhere that you're retarded, is this true?

Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [sysadminmag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

Erm, yeah. Since you're so fond of Netcraft's stats maybe you should take a look at Netcraft's Top 50 Uptimes and see which OS is heavily represented! :P

Read the FAQ!

Why do you report impossible operating system/server combinations ?

Webservers that operate behind a load balancer, reverse proxy server or a firewall will often report the operating system of the load balancer, reverse proxy or firewall server. Hence reports of 'Microsoft/IIS on Linux' indicate that either the web server is behind a Linux server that is acting as a reverse proxy, has been configured to send a different signature or Microsoft have released a version of IIS for Linux.

It sure is!

Actually, there is no prohibition about using other browsers/OSs to fill out the FAFSA, the page you referred to is only a warning that the other browsers aren't supported, which means if you run into a problem you can't get tech support to help you figure out what is wrong. Given that they support Netscape running on both Windows or Mac, I I expect you won't have problems using Netscape on Linux to fill it out. As to the version of Netscape supported, blame Netscape for that, it took from v4.7x until 6.1 to get a relatively stable product. Since that was only recently completed, it will be a while before they certify 6.1 for technical support.

As to supported OS's, if you do a Netcraft check, you'll see that ED.gov uses a variety of OS's for the webservers - primarily Solaris and WinNT but with a mix of others like HP-UX (including the FAFSA site itself) thrown in as well. For desktops within the agency itself though, its strictly a Win95/2000 shop. You can run Red Hat if you like, but don't plan on using the helpdesk much if you do (then again, you much less likely to need to, right?)

According to netcraft's September stats 36.53% of the .gov websites were running MS IIS and 31.92% were running Apache, go here for further details. Interestingly there don't appear to be stats for .gov sites prior to last month (it looks like they just started polling .gov sites perhaps? Only 3581 were polled). I wonder what those numbers will look like one year from now.

You don't need to be a streetlawyer to predict Adequacy.org's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Adequacy faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Adequacy.org because Adequacy is dying. Things are looking very bad for Adequacy. As many of us are already aware, Adequacy continues to lose site traffic.

Let's try to keep the facts and look at the numbers.

Slashdot leader Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda states that there are about 5000 semi-regular posters to Slashdot.org. How many users of Geekizoid are there? The ratio of Slashdot to Geekizoid posts is roughly in ratio of 100 to 1. Therefore there are about 5000/100 = 50 occasional Geekizoid posters. The ratio of Adequacy posters to Geekizoid posters is about 5 to 1. Therefore there are 50 * 5 = 250 occasional posters to Adequacy.org. This is approximately equal to the number of editors listed on Adequacy's website added to the eleven non-editors who read the site.

Traffic to Adequacy continues to diminish. In July 2001, Adequacy received approximately 160,000 pageviews. In August, Adequacy received only 80,000 pageviews. The number of pageviews in September (as of September 11) is 60,000, a
paltry 37% of its July traffic. At current rates, the amount of Adequacy traffic will hit 0 by the end of the year.

According to Netcraft, Adequacy's situation is grim. Due to the troubles of Speakeasy DSL, DoS attacks and so on, Adequacy was forced out of business and was taken over by JAT Computer Consulting which hosts another troubled website. Now JAT Computer Consulting is also dying, its corpse being turned over to another charnal house.

All major surveys show that Adequacy has steadily declined in readership. Adequacy is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Adequacy is to survive at all it will be among right-wing maniacs, Libertarians, and trolls. Adequacy continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Adequacy.org
is dead.

I work in Yahoo's infrastructure group, and I've never even heard of iPlant. However, I do know that we use FreeBSD boxes by the thousands

Yahoo use FreeBSD as the OS and iPlanet (which is another name for Netscape Enterprise Server afaicr) as their web server.

The percentage may be small, but you neglected to report the fact that it's growing

Not according to the latest Netcraft survey. I personally I like FreeBSD but Linux has so many easy to use tools and so much support which for me is more important than raw performance.

Phillip.

Netcraft Confirms: *BSD is dying
I confirm that this is the same tired-ass old post you've been giving us all along. The word is originality; look it up, toad.

By the way, it should be noted that Netcraft itself is running Apache on FreeBSD.

what Netcraft REALLY says SHIT FOR BRAINS ...let's hope I got that right cause this troll is getting old

> ... see who pops up, or go over to the "longest uptime" pages and notice that most are BSD/Linux.

none are linux

This is gonna really hurt the FreeBSD counts on next months Netcraft report.

Netcraft page for CWIE LLC

• interesting overall view
  
• neat to look at, shows you that Linux users include www.thawte.com, Rackspace, www.dialtoneinternet.com and www.cihost.com
  
• a neat look at sites with linux in their name
  

• interesting overall view
  
• neat to look at, shows you that Linux users include www.thawte.com, Rackspace, www.dialtoneinternet.com and www.cihost.com
  
• a neat look at sites with linux in their name
  

• interesting overall view
  
• neat to look at, shows you that Linux users include www.thawte.com, Rackspace, www.dialtoneinternet.com and www.cihost.com
  
• a neat look at sites with linux in their name
  

A quick glance through Netcraft's Most requested sites over the last 30 days shows that part of Microsoft's Zone website stats.zone.com runs on Linux using Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) mod_fastcgi/2.2.2.

Love it!

I would suggest taking the OS reports as only a rough estimate. Their OS detection needs a lot of work. My OS/2 server has been seen as Tru64/Digital UNIX since I upgraded the stack two years ago, and they're still "working on it". The stack is an IBM port from code that is similar to, but not derived from, BSD 4.4, so I don't know why they keep making that mistake.

Netcraft isn't stupid.... see netcraft mechanics and how many active sites are there?.

Netcraft isn't stupid.... see netcraft mechanics and how many active sites are there?.

Intel had no comment at press time.

Does Intel's 90% dominance disturb anyone else? It's a good thing that there is competition within that 90%. Oh well, this user will probably continue to buy cheap AMD mobos.

It seems NSA needs a "security enhanced" OS for its own website. If you look at the statistic of their website on netcraft , it seems that they have to reboot their solaris servers every 3 days !

Next, Netcraft say it's an NT 4 box.

AFAIK, this is a shared host - if you knock over the box then you'll take down a whole bunch of sites run by people who're totally innocent (not to mention all the innocent people who bank with this company who'll be affected by such an irresponsible attack).

Having checked IPs, my site doesn't seem to be hosted on the same box, but I know I'd be pretty pissed if my visitors couldn't get to my site because someone had decided, with pretty tenuous reasons, to hAx0R the host machine. If you (understandably) feel a need to take action, please try to do it in a more productive manner.

If they are the market leader, how come there are more than twice as many Apache servers as there are IIS servers out there?

Cheers //Johan

If a piece of software requires regular patches for serious security problems, that's probably a sign that its basic approach to security is flawed.

But does IIS really need patches as frequently as you imply? Code Red, Code Blue, Nimda et al exploit the same security hole that is almost a year old. The problem is that for every security hole, there are several waves of worms because IIS admins simply never patch their boxes.

If you disbelieve me check out Netcraft's security survey which shows how long several IIS boxes have gone unpatched and that about 12% of SSL sites (meaning they are probably eCommerce related) running IIS have been "rooted".

WTF?

P.S.:

Your comment violated the postercomment compression filter. Comment aborted.

What horseshit....

Maybe its time for Ebay to switch to Linux (as Amazon, Altavista and others did) to be finally free.

BTW: in Italy like in Germany (and maybe all EU) it is perfectly legal to resell software - I did it several times.

Just my 2c.
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