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From the first google result for "amd ryzen motherboard ecc."

The RTX cards from NVidia can cost twice as much or more than that. $450 (and really they're closer to $300 (and it also comes with 3 free games on top of that) in reality) is a bargain by comparison. It's still stupid, but I blame all of the yahoos mining crypto-currencies and driving up the prices.

See here.

I spend a few months sniping ebay to get that 580 for $100 though. You'll usually pay $120-$140. But a GTX 1060 6GB will set you back $160-$180 (was trying to snipe one of those too, still am albeit at $100 :) ).

The RX 570 is _nuts_ though. It out does the 1060 3gb for $50 bucks less. Heck, I've seen the 8gb version go for $140 on sale. Even with the power consumption (figure 40-60 watts more) it's a no brainer unless you've got a cheap OEM computer (in which case yeah, you're stuck with nvidia because your PCI-E slot & power supply won't deliver enough juice).

Punkt MP02

For $350???

How about an LG B470? $50 at the AT&T store.

And you found the dumb TV where? I haven't seen a dumb TV bigger than the 32-40" class in years, and even there it's becoming hard to find if you want a decent display.

Newegg was my second google result for "signage lcd", which I figured would get me some hits. I went for "commercial lcd" on amazon and eBay with good results as well.

You were pretty kind to him, after he let himself wide open for a burn. I'm impressed.

And you found the dumb TV where? I haven't seen a dumb TV bigger than the 32-40" class in years, and even there it's becoming hard to find if you want a decent display.

Newegg was my second google result for "signage lcd", which I figured would get me some hits. I went for "commercial lcd" on amazon and eBay with good results as well.

I used to have cable. I was spending something like $300/month. The set-top boxes, the premium channels (because the regular channels were all "reality tv"), all the fees...

Internet alone, on FIOS, is $40/month + fees. Netflix is $8.55/month. Something like an OBi202 2-Line Voice-over-IP Phone Adapter was just on sale for $44. (Now $70.) That's a one time fee, with free (no monthly fee) incoming & outgoing phone calls via Google Voice. (Setup video.)

I mean we're talking about a price difference that lets me buy a brand new top of the line MacBook every year, with change left over.

All I can figure is that must be one hell of an expensive antenna you're talking about! Does it come with land & a 1000 foot tower?

Build it yourself, duh.

I know they aren't common, but they do exist. https://www.newegg.com/Product...

Let me stop you right there again.
https://www.newegg.com/Product...
https://www.newegg.com/Product...

Or why not let the SIs speak for you: https://store.hp.com/us/en/cv/...

Considering that I understood the marketing and you did not

To channel my inner Trump: WRONG! You have clearly failed to understand the marketing. Good work finding a detailed description of NAND and ignoring the information that is most front and center to consumers. You're still splitting hairs trying to save your horrible interpretation of the situation while you continue to ignore the ACTUAL MARKETING.

Intel® Optane SSD DC P4800X with Intel Memory Drive Technology enables data centers to deliver more affordable memory pools by displacing a portion of DRAM or significantly increasing the size of memory pools. This solution transparently integrates the drive into the memory subsystem and presents the SSD as DRAM to the OS and applications.

WHOLY SHIT. I mean I was sort of trolling when I said you don't understand marketing. But you actually don't understand marketing! Like at all. It all makes sense now. You tried to discredit a promise Intel made on it's marketing material (which didn't make sense and failed to deliver) with ... a promise made on Intel marketing material.

Dude, get help.

Let me stop you right there again.
https://www.newegg.com/Product...
https://www.newegg.com/Product...

Or why not let the SIs speak for you: https://store.hp.com/us/en/cv/...

Considering that I understood the marketing and you did not

To channel my inner Trump: WRONG! You have clearly failed to understand the marketing. Good work finding a detailed description of NAND and ignoring the information that is most front and center to consumers. You're still splitting hairs trying to save your horrible interpretation of the situation while you continue to ignore the ACTUAL MARKETING.

Intel® Optane SSD DC P4800X with Intel Memory Drive Technology enables data centers to deliver more affordable memory pools by displacing a portion of DRAM or significantly increasing the size of memory pools. This solution transparently integrates the drive into the memory subsystem and presents the SSD as DRAM to the OS and applications.

WHOLY SHIT. I mean I was sort of trolling when I said you don't understand marketing. But you actually don't understand marketing! Like at all. It all makes sense now. You tried to discredit a promise Intel made on it's marketing material (which didn't make sense and failed to deliver) with ... a promise made on Intel marketing material.

Dude, get help.

Allow me to introduce you to the KeyTronic E03601U1 full size 104 normal keys keyboard. Durable and reliable. Full size keys that don't have quite the pop/click of the old IBM lead monsters, but you'll know that you've hit the key. It's wired USB so you never have to worry about batteries dying. It does have a Windows key, but most non-Windows OS have a switch to control that key somewhere in the OS interface settings, so not sure why that would be an issue.

Here's your citation, shitlips.

Does no one just ask - is this even a reasonable claim?

Intel is going to be on an OLDER process node - their architecture is not running 340% faster than AMD.

Intel is comparing their theoretical future chip with Epyc chips shipping now. https://www.newegg.com/Product...

Once these chips are available in quantity (they are not) drop them into some servers and start bench-marking them on performance per price /watt. And compare them to AMD chips coming out at that time.

If this is the benchmark that is hitting AMD where it "hurts" AMD is in good position. When your competitor benchmarks their future products against your current products instead of their current ones, you KNOW you are good.

And the latest set of benchmark shenanigans don't look good for intel either.

The closest prebuilt system I can find at a glance would be something like this:

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

Sure, it's less, but not so dramatic.

Nice small cases are quite expensive, though it's prebuilt at essentially the price GGP suggests.

I didn't took the i3 8100 because it's a bad choice of CPU.
$100 for 2200G: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$160 for 2400G: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$110 for MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC: https://www.newegg.com/Product... mini-ITX board.
$54 for cheapest 8GB DDR4: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$64 for cheapest 2x4 GB DDR4: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
100+110+64 = $274 without case, ssd and psu for the reasonable setup.

I didn't took the i3 8100 because it's a bad choice of CPU.
$100 for 2200G: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$160 for 2400G: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$110 for MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC: https://www.newegg.com/Product... mini-ITX board.
$54 for cheapest 8GB DDR4: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$64 for cheapest 2x4 GB DDR4: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
100+110+64 = $274 without case, ssd and psu for the reasonable setup.

I didn't took the i3 8100 because it's a bad choice of CPU.
$100 for 2200G: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$160 for 2400G: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$110 for MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC: https://www.newegg.com/Product... mini-ITX board.
$54 for cheapest 8GB DDR4: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$64 for cheapest 2x4 GB DDR4: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
100+110+64 = $274 without case, ssd and psu for the reasonable setup.

I didn't took the i3 8100 because it's a bad choice of CPU.
$100 for 2200G: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$160 for 2400G: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$110 for MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC: https://www.newegg.com/Product... mini-ITX board.
$54 for cheapest 8GB DDR4: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$64 for cheapest 2x4 GB DDR4: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
100+110+64 = $274 without case, ssd and psu for the reasonable setup.

I didn't took the i3 8100 because it's a bad choice of CPU.
$100 for 2200G: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$160 for 2400G: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$110 for MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC: https://www.newegg.com/Product... mini-ITX board.
$54 for cheapest 8GB DDR4: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
$64 for cheapest 2x4 GB DDR4: https://www.newegg.com/Product...
100+110+64 = $274 without case, ssd and psu for the reasonable setup.

More to the point, $150 will buy you a basic 8 TB external hard drive these days. So in the worst-case compression scenario, tape is only about 2/3rds the price of storing the data on hard drives, assuming you have sufficient physical space to store the hard drives, and ignoring the cost of the tape drive. (More to the point, if compression can let you store more data on tape, that same compression would also let you store more on a hard drive, so for a fair comparison, only the native capacity matters.)

As soon as you add in the cost of the tape drive, you can compute a break-even point where tape becomes cheaper. The break-even point is where the cost of hard drives, x, equals the cost of tapes, which is the cost of the tape drive ($4k) plus 2/3 * x. So x = $4000 + .66666x. Solve for x, and you get x/3 = $4000, so x = $12000.

At $150 for 8 TB, that comes to 640 TB. Realistically, that ought to be enough for anybody. :-)

But I guess if you have to store more than that, tape might be a good deal.

*shrugs*

Someone else suggested buying a monitor instead, but since I didn't see anyone else mention it: they can be a bit more expensive, but you might want to look into buying a commercial display. IIRC, they're basically just a screen with I/O plugs, and come in sizes up to ~100" (I mean, if you're not in the mood to buy a car with that money instead...).

Razer's products aren't exactly aimed at a high calibre of person, and if somebody will pay $130, or even $152, for a mouse because they think it'll make them better at Fortnite, then you may as well take their information as well. It's not like they'll care.

Razer's products aren't exactly aimed at a high calibre of person, and if somebody will pay $130, or even $152, for a mouse because they think it'll make them better at Fortnite, then you may as well take their information as well. It's not like they'll care.

I have to have two charging cables in each of our cars at all times because mine uses Micro-USB while her phone uses USB-C.

I know, right? But USB-C is so much better, I can handle it. Just grab a handful of these to tide you over.

I'm not a huge fan of these as I had a surface pro with work that was flakey as, but it's $500 including keyboard for the base model, and you've compared a 10" lightweight tablet with two 15" laptops, neither of which have touch or a tablet mode of any sort.

So a search for 2 in 1 with a 10-12" screen, no atom processor, 4+gb ram, 64+gb SSD gives you this:
https://www.newegg.com/Product...

eMMC or flash storage is basically worthless, so ignore any of those.

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

That guy is $150 cheaper than surface go + keyboard, has a nicer keyboard and will be more sturdy. It also has a worse quality screen and is thicker etc. I'd say for an education laptop for primary school it's superior and at a lower price.

Same $500 gets you:
https://www.newegg.com/Product...

Larger SSD, worse processor, better screen, lesser brand. I think this one is a real tossup, I'd likely buy this one for my $500.

So looking at the ACTUAL market of this device it's competitive but not best in class.

I'm not a huge fan of these as I had a surface pro with work that was flakey as, but it's $500 including keyboard for the base model, and you've compared a 10" lightweight tablet with two 15" laptops, neither of which have touch or a tablet mode of any sort.

So a search for 2 in 1 with a 10-12" screen, no atom processor, 4+gb ram, 64+gb SSD gives you this:
https://www.newegg.com/Product...

eMMC or flash storage is basically worthless, so ignore any of those.

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

That guy is $150 cheaper than surface go + keyboard, has a nicer keyboard and will be more sturdy. It also has a worse quality screen and is thicker etc. I'd say for an education laptop for primary school it's superior and at a lower price.

Same $500 gets you:
https://www.newegg.com/Product...

Larger SSD, worse processor, better screen, lesser brand. I think this one is a real tossup, I'd likely buy this one for my $500.

So looking at the ACTUAL market of this device it's competitive but not best in class.

I'm not a huge fan of these as I had a surface pro with work that was flakey as, but it's $500 including keyboard for the base model, and you've compared a 10" lightweight tablet with two 15" laptops, neither of which have touch or a tablet mode of any sort.

So a search for 2 in 1 with a 10-12" screen, no atom processor, 4+gb ram, 64+gb SSD gives you this:
https://www.newegg.com/Product...

eMMC or flash storage is basically worthless, so ignore any of those.

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

That guy is $150 cheaper than surface go + keyboard, has a nicer keyboard and will be more sturdy. It also has a worse quality screen and is thicker etc. I'd say for an education laptop for primary school it's superior and at a lower price.

Same $500 gets you:
https://www.newegg.com/Product...

Larger SSD, worse processor, better screen, lesser brand. I think this one is a real tossup, I'd likely buy this one for my $500.

So looking at the ACTUAL market of this device it's competitive but not best in class.

Not when I can get one of these for that price or this if I don't need a good GPU.

Not when I can get one of these for that price or this if I don't need a good GPU.

"... international roaming..."

Roaming is expensive.

Many Blu phones have dual SIMs and cost less than $100. Quoting: Dual SIM:

A Dual SIM gives you several advantages... If you have two SIM slots in your mobile device, you don't need to worry about these issues: (The writing on the Blu web site is poor. I improved it.)
1) Exchanging SIM cards from one phone to another.
2) Carrying two phones in your pocket.
3) Remembering to charge two devices.
4) You can take advantage of different voice/data plans for better rates, better coverage, and separate bills.
5) You can separate personal and business phone calls.
6) For the international traveler, a Dual SIM phone can avoid roaming charges by having a domestic carrier SIM and an international carrier SIM.

This kind of surge protector is the future:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812205040

Buy a modern mini tower, and the first thing that strikes you is there are no slots on the back, no spare drive bays, these are not meant to be expanded, YET THEY ARE SIZED TO BE EXPANDED, full of empty air and wasted space.

Just curious: which one of these are you talking about? Most of them don't mention what you're talking about in the product descriptions or even user flames/reviews.

My personal experience is that even mini-ITX cases usually have slots on the back and room for 2.5" drives, and you just get more and more slots and actually-usable-3.5"-drivebays as you go up to mini towers and mid towers and full towers. You've obviously ended up with some different brand, and I'm just trying to figure out what that is.

GPU prices have not dropped in the last few months, despite drop in demand, and oversupply.

You mean you haven't looked. There were only stories out 2 weeks ago about a fresh round of price cuts with several cards back down at their MSRP.

Here you go: https://www.newegg.com/Product... shop away. The price is right where it should be.

I mean, you can buy an AMD processor that runs at 4.7ghz with turbo to 5ghz right now at newegg:

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

Released 5 years ago, June 2013.

Is it crazy that I am thinking of building a new system designed to be underclocked?

There are some serious advantages. The obvious is the sudden ability to not give any craps at all about cooling, but the not-so-obvious are the form factors such a system can then take. I am seriously considering this 7.56" x 8.27" x 2.44" case for a desktop system.

Hmmm... You can get a 1300W UPS for $330, and other than the heavy appliances (stove, refrigerator/freezer, clothes washer/dryer) it will supply 1300W for 6-7 minutes; that would run the typical US household (sans heavy appliances which are not disrupted by a few second blackout) for about 10 minutes. For a one to ten second blackout, this would be, potentially, overkill. Seems like a lower cost solution is available to you right now!

Not everyone needs to cough up $1900 for a CPU to have a computer that is usable to them

How right you are, when a Ryzen Threadripper will blow it away in throughput for half the price. :-)

I agree. But we can do better. California should make 2 new laws:

1) Everything good is required.

2) Everything bad is against the law.

That will simplify what is happening now: Combination Wrench, 5-7/8", 9mm, Chrome Vanadium Steel, Westward, 36A224

The California notice:

"WARNING: This product can expose you to chemicals including one or more listed chemicals which are known to the State of California to cause cancer or birth defects or other reproductive harm. For more information, go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov"

Chrome causes cancer: Epidemiologic studies of chrome and cancer mortality: a series of meta-analyses.

Vanadium causes cancer: Toxic Substances Portal - Vanadium Quote: "Everyone is exposed to low levels of vanadium in air, water, and food; however, most people are exposed mainly from food."

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Combination Wrench, 5-7/8", 9mm, Chrome Vanadium Steel, Westward, 36A224
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Vanadium causes cancer: Toxic Substances Portal - Vanadium Quote: "Everyone is exposed to low levels of vanadium in air, water, and food; however, most people are exposed mainly from food."
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I'll take two of those wrenches. Toasted please and with cream cheese. To go.

Wow! Good chart. I simplified the link: Everything we eat both causes and prevents cancer.

Lights? Melatonin? Sleep deprivation? Hah! I have a worse story. And a solution!

Combination Wrench, 5-7/8", 9mm, Chrome Vanadium Steel, Westward, 36A224

The California notice:

"WARNING: This product can expose you to chemicals including one or more listed chemicals which are known to the State of California to cause cancer or birth defects or other reproductive harm. For more information, go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov"

Chrome causes cancer: Epidemiologic studies of chrome and cancer mortality: a series of meta-analyses.

Vanadium causes cancer: Toxic Substances Portal - Vanadium Quote: "Everyone is exposed to low levels of vanadium in air, water, and food; however, most people are exposed mainly from food."

There is poison in dirt! My solution: We need to find a new planet.

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

Newegg, 55"+ 'monitors'

Curiously, since these are targeted at "business" uses like conference rooms and trade displays, they're more expensive than TV's in the same size/format/quality with a tuner, etc. aimed at the consumer.

Here is a example I just found: Combination Wrench, 5-7/8", 9mm,Chrome Vanadium Steel, Westward, 36A224 . How can a steel wrench be poisonous?

Some people have a bad reaction to chromium. I don't know if the amount in steel would be enough to trigger that, though.

I agree! When I lived in the L.A. area, a newspaper article said that there were over 120 poisons in the air in the area where I lived.

Recently I was looking at an computer item on Newegg. There was a California notice that it was poisonous. How should I understand that???

Here is a example I just found: Combination Wrench, 5-7/8", 9mm,Chrome Vanadium Steel, Westward, 36A224 . How can a steel wrench be poisonous?

The California notice:

"WARNING: This product can expose you to chemicals including one or more listed chemicals which are known to the State of California to cause cancer or birth defects or other reproductive harm. For more information, go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov"

Why isn't there some explanation of the poison???

It seems to me that California has been poorly managed since Grey Davis was governor. But, I moved away more than 30 years ago.

......here is a page full of links from Newegg to buy copies of Windows 7 from OEM version to full. https://www.newegg.com/Product...

ATSC tuner--
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c...

4k monitor, 42"--
https://www.newegg.com/Product...

Lenovo's $799 Miix 630, unveiled at the show, is a Snapdragon 835 machine with a 12.3-inch display. Like other Qualcomm-based Windows 10 PCs, it will ship by default with the Windows 10 S operating system, but will be upgradable to Windows 10 Pro for free within 180 days of product activation, Neowin says. (Originally the updated cut-off date for upgrading for free from 10 S to Pro was March 2018.)

A Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 is not a quick chip

Native performance 2048/6565 Geekbench 4 single/multicode

http://weborus.com/snapdragon-...

Performance running x86 code under emulation 1202/4068 single/multicore

https://mspoweruser.com/first-...

Meanwhile you can get a decent machine with an i5 or i7 for $799.

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

My prediction - the official benchmarks will come out and they'll be terrible. These machines won't sell well, at least not at $799.

Asus still make 11.6" systems and a few 10.1" convertibles

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

But yeah, the answer is to buy an ultrabook

E.g from here

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

I'd get one of these

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

Asus still make 11.6" systems and a few 10.1" convertibles

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

But yeah, the answer is to buy an ultrabook

E.g from here

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

I'd get one of these

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

Asus still make 11.6" systems and a few 10.1" convertibles

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

But yeah, the answer is to buy an ultrabook

E.g from here

https://www.newegg.com/Product...

I'd get one of these

https://www.newegg.com/Product...