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Maj. Gen. Thomas Cutler, who leads the Michigan National Guard, said he anticipated a call for police units and started preparing them, but couldn't go until states in the hurricane zone asked them to come.

"We could have had people on the road Tuesday," Cutler said. "We have to wait and respond to their need."

The Michigan National Guard was asked for military police by Mississippi late Tuesday and by Louisiana officials late Wednesday. The state sent 182 MPs to Mississippi on Friday and had 242 headed to Louisiana on Saturday.

... But will it power the flea pod?

You think Mississippi did not get suffer as much damage as New Orleans? http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2005/s2495.htm I suggest you take a look. The state an local governments of Mississippi just did a much better job of evacuating and managing the disaster than New Orleans did.
One of the cultural problems that happened in New Orleans is an almost mystical belief that it couldn't happen to them. Think about it, why was there ever a voluntary evacuation notice? Why wasn't it mandatory on Saturday? The risk was so high but people still stayed. I am not talking about the poor and infirm but people that could leave but didn't! Also In Mississippi no hospital that was in a flood zone was left occupied.
These are images and facts you can see for yourself not Dogma.
Way too many people are forgetting Mississippi because of New Orleans. Also remember that flooding happened the day after the storm passed. No one should have died in New Orleans. No hospital should have had patients in it. Over 1000 school buses where left in a parking compound in New Orleans by the city that was below sea level instead of being used to get the poor and sick out of town. The state of Louisiana did not have enough shelters in the area around New Orleans for the people to go to. Yes a large amount of the looting was caused by the desperation of the people but that dire situation was caused by the culture of the City and the corruption of the local and state government. This culture isn't due to race or even class. Frankly I have no idea why city of New Orleans seems to have a culture that inspires the same long term planning goals of the average 15 year old.
I mean look at this from the New York Times!
The first responders are stressed in New Orleans. So what is the City of New Orleans going to do for them? Counseling? How about a drunked weekend partying in Las Vegas... Yea that will do it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationa lspecial/05vegas.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1126205635- yZeiYgyytHSmkJqZcQOc0A
Good grief some things you can just not make up.

Basic Summary: Spoof Video for the 'new' iPod Flea.
Its surprisingly funny.

I'm not challenging your numbers - do enough polls and you'll get almost any result - but I wonder if you can tell me the poll you saw. The numbers I saw doing a google search are 55% (Nov. 2004), 47% (Nov. 1991), and 42% (Aug. 2005) of Americans believing in Creationism.

Its not even as good as the iPod Flea.

Have you tried CNN.COM or The Palm Beach Post or Newsmax or The Washington Post or how about USA Today.

In case you think any of those are too Bush friendly try out the New York Times.

Outside of media sources there is also the Wiki entry.

As for the panhandle disenfranchisement try:

Newsmax again.

Or the US Senate investigation.

As for the disenfranchisement of voters through poorly created criminal lists try:

Common Dreams (reprinting a Palm Beach Post article)

John Lott (you can read the whole thing but his conclusion sections should do)

Essentially the criminal lists did little to affect the vote, and most calls of African American disenfranchisement (the Democrats backbone support) were actually due to a disproportionally high vote rejection rate in 'Black districts', not the lists. But as several reviews have shown, these were do to voter error in marking their ballots, not any particular attempt to actively disenfranchise them. And before you try to make a case that they used different style ballots in 'Black Districts' (which was the case in some areas) remember, those districts, being predominately Democrat, were run by Democratic election boards who designed those ballots.

There was a good site that summarizes all the various debates, but I can't seem to find it right now. If I do I'll reply with a link. As for the Supremes roll in all this, it's pretty much a a moot point but if you want to dig further at least 7 justices saw some problem with the way the Florida Supreme Court had ordered the count to go forward, and at least 3 saw the December 12th deadline as an important part of their decision. They vast majority had issues with the lower courts rulings but each of the SCJs had a different idea as to what the solution should be.

*ahem* - http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10& srcht=s&query=%22shovel+%2417+billion%22&srchst=ny t&hdlquery=&bylquery=&daterange=full&mon1=01&day1= 01&year1=1981&mon2=09&day2=06&year2=2005&submit.x= 16&submit.y=14 Although, you were right about that it was "designed by right-wing groups to pretend that Bush really *was* on top, and it was the evil liberal's fault!" There is a lot of that nowadays, especially from Fox

The previous poster is just a troll who deliberately put an error in the phrase he searched for. Notice the lack of the dollar sign in his search attempt.

The really sad thing is that he was modded up after his lies were shown.

Then I searched for the similar section of your article ("Anyone who cares about sound budgeting and about the health") and got a different article dated August 19, 2002 titled Taming the Untouchable Corps.

So either the Times published two stories with very similar titles and eerily similar lines by coincidence, or someone felt lazy and just changed a few lines and republished the same article. If you have a subscription, feel free to read them and determine which is the case. Since the latter seems more likely, I'm not in the mood to pay them.

Congrats - you're propagating a newly created urban legend designed by left-wing groups to pretend that right-wing groups are misrepresenting the holy New York Times editorial page in a attempt to pretend that Bush really *was* on top, and it was the evil liberal's fault!

Wow, that was a mouthful.

Then I searched for the similar section of your article ("Anyone who cares about sound budgeting and about the health") and got a different article dated August 19, 2002 titled Taming the Untouchable Corps.

So either the Times published two stories with very similar titles and eerily similar lines by coincidence, or someone felt lazy and just changed a few lines and republished the same article. If you have a subscription, feel free to read them and determine which is the case. Since the latter seems more likely, I'm not in the mood to pay them.

Congrats - you're propagating a newly created urban legend designed by left-wing groups to pretend that right-wing groups are misrepresenting the holy New York Times editorial page in a attempt to pretend that Bush really *was* on top, and it was the evil liberal's fault!

Wow, that was a mouthful.

Actually, FreeRepublic and other sites are misreporting the date on the article ("The Untouchable Corps", with that text, as "April 13, 2005", and heavily alter the text. The actual article was from August 19th, 2002. You can read it without paying here. If you don't believe me that they've changed it, check the New York Times for that text you cited. Congrats - you're propagating a newly created urban legend designed by right-wing groups to pretend that Bush really *was* on top, and it was the evil liberal's fault!

It wasn't "Bush's Proposal", it was a Corps proposal. The article was actually critical of Bush ("He fired (and has yet to replace) Mike Parker, the agency's civilian chief, mainly because Mr. Parker asked for too much money."). The article wasn't critical about the money, but about the environmental impact of the chosen designs. The article didn't even discuss actions on the Mississippi River or flood prevention - their big faulting of the corps was on the subject of Delaware dredging.

Actually, FreeRepublic and other sites are misreporting the date on the article ("The Untouchable Corps", with that text, as "April 13, 2005", and heavily alter the text. The actual article was from August 19th, 2002. You can read it without paying here. If you don't believe me that they've changed it, check the New York Times for that text you cited. Congrats - you're propagating a newly created urban legend designed by right-wing groups to pretend that Bush really *was* on top, and it was the evil liberal's fault!

It wasn't "Bush's Proposal", it was a Corps proposal. The article was actually critical of Bush ("He fired (and has yet to replace) Mike Parker, the agency's civilian chief, mainly because Mr. Parker asked for too much money."). The article wasn't critical about the money, but about the environmental impact of the chosen designs. The article didn't even discuss actions on the Mississippi River or flood prevention - their big faulting of the corps was on the subject of Delaware dredging.

I noticed another NYT story on lost cities, which would be interesting to the 'abandon New Orleans' camp:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/06/science/06lost.h tml

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/02/opinion/02fische tti.html?n=Top%2FOpinion%2FEditorials%20and%20Op-E d%2FOp-Ed%2FContributors
http://www.coast2050.gov/watermarks/wrda.htm

News today

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/politics/04halli burton.html

indicates that Halliburton is already wetting its beak.

A point I will conceed. Alas, George Bush isn't even close to being a John Adams, as a study of their mutual efforts pre-presidency will reveal. Adams at least had a height to fall from, to make his failures more tragic than farce.

Gee, it seems that Jefferson and Madison were religion neutral as well.

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."
--James Madison

..."the successful experiment made under the prevalence of that delusion on the clause of the constitution, which, while it secured the freedom of the press, covered also the freedom of religion, had given to the clergy a very favorite hope of obtaining an establishment of a particular form of Christianity thro' the U.S.; and as every sect believes its own form the true one, every one perhaps hoped for his own, but especially the Episcopalians & Congregationalists. The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their hopes, & they believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
--Thomas Jefferson, letter to To Dr. Benjamin Rush, Monticello, Sep. 23, 1800. (Emphasis added, because the quote fucking rocks. )

For some reason, Fundamentalist Evangelicals seldom cite Jefferson, and never do so referring to the full source. =)

As for the other issues which you don't address, again the 10th Amendment covers it very nicely. If it ain't in the Constitution, a document I swore a long time ago to preserve, protect and defend and still hold to that oath despite my country breaking faith from me, it is left to the states or the people.

Article V: Amendments "shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution". Which means you're still stuck (as I noted) with Amendment 14, not to mention assorted loons empowered by Article III until and unless they quit or keel over dead.

Sorry, but try another shot at my bows.

"Mister Christian! Man the Canons!"

The New York Times has their obituary up for him at http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/politics/04REHNQ UIST.OBIT.WEB.html?pagewanted=all.

Registration required as usual, but this seems of high enough quality to make it worthwhile.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/national/nationa lspecial/04storm.html/

"There was no electricity in the city, and almost every office and store was closed. Bodies still floated in the floodwaters, and everywhere were signs of recent disorder: shattered storefronts, the detritus of looting that showed help had come too late. There was no water or food for sale, and no one had any idea how many people were still in New Orleans. A police officer making rescues in a boat said several people in homes five feet deep in water had turned him away, saying they had plenty of food, water and beer.

From a little better editor:

Jordan Allen-Dutton and Erik Weiner, authors of "The Bomb-itty of Errors," an award-winning, hip-hop Shakespearean play, have written "Nerds," which they call "a musical software satire." It is to be performed this week at Vassar College in Poughkeepsie, N.Y.

The musical explores the lives of Mr. Gates and Mr. Jobs, a founder of Apple, from their teenage years to the present, and includes supporting characters like Apple's other founder, Steve Wozniak, and fictional female love interests.

The authors said they had invited Mr. Gates, Mr. Jobs and Mr. Wozniak to an earlier production of the show at New York University. Only Mr. Wozniak responded, they said, but he did not attend. They said Mr. Wozniak told them that he would try to make it to the show this time. Mr. Gates and Mr. Jobs declined to comment.

Jane L. Levere
On NYTimes here.

Here's a New York Times video review of the camera.

Summary: It would be better if it could connect to the Internet.

Intel's official press release and text of filing(.pdf)

One of the weird things is that the first major breach happened on one of the few sections that had recently been upgraded:

No one expected that weak spot to be on a canal that, if anything, had received more attention and shoring up than many other spots in the region. It did not have broad berms, but it did have strong concrete walls.

Shea Penland, director of the Pontchartrain Institute for Environmental Studies at the University of New Orleans, said that was particularly surprising because the break was "along a section that was just upgraded."

[link]

It is not surprising that there were multiple levee failures, given the underfunding of the system... especially during the Bush administration.

But on the other hand, to really do it right and improve the system to survive a direct hit from a category 4 hurricane was estimated (in 2002) to cost around 14 Billion dollars. link

It's obvious to everyone now that this would have been a bargain compared to the loss of life that is going on today. But politically it would have been almost impossible to commit that kind of federal funding without a major disaster happening first. The reason the levees were improved to handle a category 3 hurricane was the flooding and deaths caused by Hurricane Betsy in 1965. And in any case, such a project was estimated to take over ten years to implement.

It is sad that practically all of this was foreseen, and that the government did not have the will to do anything about it. Clinton (and the Republican Congress of the time) at least increased rather than decreased the funding. But even then, it was nowhere near enough of what was needed to handle a storm like Katrina.

GM and Ford are falling flat on their asses because they make cars that no one wants.

Nope, not at this particular instant in time. GM is doing poorly because some people want their cars. Each time GM sells a car, they lose $1227. GM's real problem is that they made overly-generous retirement promises to ex-employees, which means they can't compete on price with new or foreign companies that aren't subsidizing legions of unionized nonworkers.

Table of mean per-vehicle profit by manufacturer:
Nissan....$1826
Toyota....$1488
Honda.....$1203
Chrysler...$186
Ford......-$139
GM.......-$1227

For short term savings, GM should stop selling any cars at all... except that it would signal they never intend to sell them in the future either. If not for competition from non-union makers, GM could charge more per vehicle, collecting enough to cover their costs.

But other creative fields are facing a greater crisis now than they have before (most notably the movie industry). I don't know if it's due to the internet resulting in broader exposure of people to more creative works, leading to disillusionment at the similarity between works, or what, but even if it's a problem that exists across all fields, it still may need to be grappled with now.

Calvin Damond, 55, pushed a shopping cart through the rising waters on Poydras Street, loaded with two suitcases, cartons of Pampers and his 5-year-old grandson. As their home in the Upper Ninth Ward filled with water during the storm, Mr. Damond, his daughter, Katherine, and her three children climbed into the attic.
"We stayed there all night," Mr. Damond said. The water receded Tuesday morning, he said, and he carried the children out on his shoulders and toward the Superdome.

Bethaney Waithe, 57, made her way there, balancing a plaid plastic tote bag with a few survival items on her head. Ms. Waithe said she tried to persuade her roommate, Rohanda Randall, to leave their house on Tuesday as the water slowly crept up the sides. But Ms. Randall has trouble walking and refused to go.

Well, it's pretty obvious really. The US would lose its moral compass and spin out of control, morally speaking. You see US society hinges on the moral reinforcement from quality movies like Snakeeater 3: His Law. You see these movies are like psychotherapy for the masses. It helps keep them from lapsing into cannibalism or even capitalism (if they really lose their way). I think there's also something in the popcorn, but don't quote me on that.

Now is not the time for your misinformed pedagogy. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/national/30cycle .html Have a heart. Sometime you may need help, and I'm sure you'd prefer legitimate help in place of half-truths and ill-timed and opportunistic propaganda.

>anything that gets made in huge vats by machines and then packaged in plastic

1. Wine is huge vats of rotten grapes. Yet you wouldn't turn your nose up to it. Same thing with cheese.
2. Just because something is wrapped in plastic doesn't mean its not good. One of the biggest things recently in fine French dining is actually wrapping food in plastic, sous vide.
Google it or see: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/14/magazine/14CRYOV AC.html?ex=1125460800&en=d03cdb5bf350bcc1&ei=5070& fta=y

At one time all food, from meat cooked over fire to sushi to white bread was new and "different".

Cutting-edge food preparation and flavor combinations previously unheard of are being served across the world, but especially in places like Chicago, New York City, and parts of Spain.

I recently trekked out to Chicago to visit on such restaurants, Alinea.

Photos from my experience here.

The Tour at Alinea in Chicago lasts roughly four and a half hours and is made up of twenty-five courses paired with nearly as many wine tastings. The executive chef, Grant Achatz, opened his well-documented restaurant to excited reviews this past May.

Each course consists of either a bite or a few bites that almost always incorporates an experimental technique of preparation such as sous vide, industrial centrifuge, foams, anti-griddle, German vaporizers or flash-freeze dehydrators. Alinea presents each course on specialized serviceware custom made by designers like Crucial Detail.

The New York Times, Frank Bruni, writes about this new type of cooking, the Chicago Tribune rates Alinea and NPR's Jennifer Ludden radio documents Alinea with chef Achatz.

"There is not an iota of evidence that reducing carbon emissions would lead to a depression."

See late 1970s stag-flation in the United States.

Wikipedia will help you understand:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagflation

Oil, like food and land, is a critical component of today's economy.

It's less critical than it was (as measured by carbon intensity), but it's still important.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/1605/ggrpt/trends.html

That's not to say that we can't do more to reduce carbon emissions, but with temperatures falling in some places, there is still some wiggle room vis-a-vis global warming and human causation:

http://michiganimc.org/usermedia/image/2/large/Cli mateGraphAnnArborSourceStateOfFearByMichealChricht on.jpg

But, given that many in the international community want more action from the United States on this issue, and in general there is distaste everywhere for dumping tons of waste into the atmosphere, there is some room for hope, including the North Eastern United States pact on emissions:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/25/nyregion/25air.h tml

As well as a similar plan for the Pacific costal states of California, Oregon, and Washington also in the works.

http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?knlgAreaID=116 &subsecID=900039&contentID=252175

In general, there is a self righteous feeling amongst non-Americans (especially from pro Kyoto treaty Europeans), but keep in mind please that very few European nations are even meeting their Kyoto targets:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12 374,1098635,00.html

Those nations that are meeting the targets are in deep recessions (including Russia):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3702640.stm

Kyoto is a 'first step', but many nations supporting that first step aren't actually taking it, making it "a tale, Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing." [Macbeth Act 5, Scene 5]

The real key is reducing our economic carbon intensity (generating more money with fewer carbon emissions). We in the United States are already doing that quite well.

Can we move faster? Yes. And we will, if by hook and crook, including regional emissions limitations, higher international oil prices, and a general shift in our economy away from manufacturing and oil consumption.

But arrogant attitudes about 'excuses and misinformation' miss the real point.

if global warming continues to melt major ice sheets, [Britain's] supply of warm air could come to an abrupt end, according to a number of experts.

The Gulf Stream relies on a sensitive "conveyer belt" action, which could be "switched off" - quite suddenly - if it becomes diluted by fresh water from the melting ice-sheets, they claim.

Dr Terry Joyce, an oceanographer from Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, US, believes there is a 50% chance of a sudden climate change happening in the next 100 years.

"It will be quick," he says. "Suddenly one decade we're warm, and the next decade we're in the coldest winter we've experienced in the last 100 years, but we're in it for a 100 years."

A White House official who once led the oil industry's fight against limits on greenhouse gases has repeatedly edited government climate reports in ways that play down links between such emissions and global warming, according to internal documents.

A senior White House official accused of doctoring government reports on climate change to play down the link between greenhouse gas emissions and global warming has taken a job with ExxonMobil, the world's largest oil company.

Philip Cooney, who resigned as chief of staff of the White House council on environment quality at the weekend, will begin work at the oil giant in the autumn.

"The Motion Picture Association of America estimates that piracy involving bootleg DVD's deprived the film industry of more than $3 billion in sales last year. That figure does not include lost sales from pirated works peddled online, for which industry insiders say they have no reliable estimate but which they assume to be substantial."

"I always thought that piracy connotes something glamorous," Barry M. Meyer, chairman of Warner Brothers, said. "Let's call it what it is: theft. I think it's just like shoplifting."

PageRank[tm] is not Free. For a company whose motto is "Don't Be Evil" a lot of people are starting to think they're evil. I like Google and most of their products, but part of me sees a sprouting problem that might be best nipped in the bud.

Thanks for the link to the article. There's another article on the 'Times site here that discusses what some theater chains are doing to boost their business. I blogged an analysis of sorts here

Cheers!

and a sponsor of creationism/ID "science":

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/21/national/21evolv e.html?ei=5094&en=0bd235262066da5c&hp=&ex=11246832 00&adxnnl=1&partner=homepage&adxnnlx=1125057631-Mu lliK7Dc7f8iEQeR8ma3A

By year's end, Electronic Arts plans to release 26 new games, all but one of them a sequel, including the 16th version of N.H.L. Hockey, the 11th of the racing game Need for Speed and the 13th of the P.G.A. Tour golf game. The company also relies heavily on creating games based on movies like the James Bond and Lord of the Rings series, rather than developing original brands.

TECHNOLOGY | August 24, 2005
Late to the Party, Google Offers Voice Messaging
By REUTERS (Reuters) News

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Late to Party, Google to Offer Messaging
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TECHNOLOGY | August 24, 2005
Google IM (almost) gets the message, users say
Anne Broache, Staff Writer, CNET News.com (CNet) News

TECHNOLOGY | August 24, 2005
Relax, Bill Gates; It's Google's Turn as the Villain
By GARY RIVLIN (NYT) News

http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?query=google &date_select=full&srchst=nyt
- unquote -

I say it's just a coincidence that these stories arrive just as Google is launching a new service :)

stupid submitter

Since /. posters are always too lazy to find the reg-free link, here you all go:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/24/technology/24val ley.html?ex=1282536000&en=344e9c533c3980cc&ei=5090 &partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

OK, you can try to do that, but then you can't ride the subway to work. At best they just won't let you get on. At worst you'll get arrested for some BS charge (mob action, disorderly conduct, etc etc). Have you actually ever tried to argue with a cop about the law when you're in the right and they don't want to hear it?

They don't care. In 2001 NYC agreed to pay settlements of $50 million for cases of prisoner strip-search abuses

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F40 61EFC3F540C738FDDA90994DB404482&incamp=archive:sea rch

The city pays millions every year for settlements in police brutality cases. It's part of the NYPD budget. Cops do not care if you tell them "Hey, you can't do that to me. Read the Constitution." They'll kick your ass. Seriously. I once saw the cops beat the crap out of some guy at my subway station on the platform as hundreds of witnesses got off the train in rush hour. The guy was sprawled out on his stomach as 2 cops held him down with with their feet and another cop choked him while his face turned red. The guy was not moving at all, and they continued to choke him and kick him for probably a full minute as I (and at least a hundred other commuters) walked past to exit the subway station.

If you want to stop police abuses, people have to organize en masse to demand changes. Telling the cops that they're violating the law will only get you in jail or in the hospital.

said Reid Hoffman, the founder of two Internet ventures, including LinkedIn, a business networking Web site popular among Silicon Valley's digerati. "It's largely that they're hiring up so many talented people, and the fact they're working on so many different things. It's harder for start-ups to do interesting stuff right now."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/24/technology/24val ley.html?pagewanted=2

Funny you should mention that. Today's NYTimes has an article about people paying California prices for Florida swampland:

homes in a design proudly called "Cracker Modern" will sit on lots of up to four acres lots near marshes, creeks and conservation areas, ... average $342,900 for the land alone.

You could probably count the number of recorded fatal accidents in the history of MRI on one hand and how many people have had the procedure?

Oh, it's not an entirely rational fear at all. That's the way fear acts. And you're right about the fatalities -- I know of only five myself. But the NY Times (no reg? sweet) also points out that incidents tend to be underreported, with the FDA database of MRI accidents only being updated if the scanner itself is damaged. I agree it's wondrous, if not miraculous technology and its benefit is hard to sufficiently encapsulate. But I'm not sure that awareness of its safety procedures and potential dangers is growing at quite the rate it should be.

And how fast is the Antarctic Ice Thickening?

And concerning polar bears. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/06/opinion/06tierne y.html?ex=1124769600&en=c2bcdd360a664063&ei=5070&o ref=login

Sorry New York time, login required. www.bugmenot.com is yoru friend.

Questions taken from the Slashdot story: Is your boss a Psychopath?

How do you rate George W. Bush and Dick Cheney? -- Questions for Questions:

Q: When he harms other people, does he feel a lack of remorse or guilt? A: Does killing people qualify as harming them?

Q: Does he lie habitually even though he can easily be found out? A: Does lying to start a war qualify as lying? A2: Does pretending that you have reduced the violence in another country, rather than increased it, qualify as lying?

Q: When he's exposed, does he still act unconcerned because he thinks he can weasel out of it? A: Does saying it's all fine qualify as being unconcerned?

Q: Is he concerned about himself rather than the wreckage he inflicts on others or society at large? A: Does worrying only about election results qualify as being concerned only about oneself?

Q: Does he use his skill at lying to cheat or manipulate other people in his quest for money? A: When both Bush and Cheney have a long history of oil and weapons investments among family and friends, does starting a war in the world's second most oil-rich country qualify as a quest for money?

Q: Does he cruelly mock others? A: Does George W. Bush calling his deputy chief of staff, Karl Rove, "turd blossom" qualify as cruelly mocking him? A2: Does giving people disrespectful nicknames qualify as mocking them?

Q: Is he callous and lacking in empathy? A: Does taking habitual risks with the lives of other people while driving qualify as lacking in empathy? A2: George W. Bush DUI, 1st record of arrest A3: George W. Bush DUI, 2nd record of arrest George W. Bush was arrested 2 other times in his life, also, for stunts that were not something a sober person would find interesting. A4: Dick Cheney DUI, record of 1st arrest A5: Dick Cheney DUI, record of 2nd arrest

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If your government chooses killing as policy, expect others to choose the same.

Computer games giant Electronic Arts and education IT researcher NESTA Futurelab, are to conduct trials to see how computer games can be used as educational tools in schools.

Sales Rep: Sir! We have a problem, no one is buying our shitty games!

CEO: Hmmmm.... is it because 25 of our last 26 games have been sequals?

Sales Rep: That's part of the problem, sir, but all of our games contain a copious amount of um, shit.

CEO: Interesting. We need a new market approach.

Sales Rep: Sir?

CEO: We sell our games to schools, and say they our educational!

Sales Rep: Brialliant!

CEO: We have to make sure they buy our utter crap too, so let's say "all our genres have something to offer"...

Sales Rep: Oh Sir, the school districts will love it! I'll get the board on the phone right away. Hello Add'em '06!

"If Amazon.com says "we're going to have a great next quarter! Two quarters from now, though, we're going to be out of business", people would sell Amazon stock like hotcakes."

yes, but Amazon wouldn't say that. if they were about to go out of business, i would guess that, given what previous companies have done, they would most likely try to cook the books.

"You're telling the daughter of an oil pres/VP and niece of a former US congressman. That's bloody rich. Sorry to ruin your fantasy world, but we don't live in a batman comic."

oh, it's rich alright. so's this.
http://www.senate.gov/~feingold/releases/00/09/200 0921959.html
wow. a "cost of living" increase. and they even set it up so that they don't have to vote for it!
hey, would your uncle pass a law that would put your dad's company in peril? oh, wait, this isn't batman is it?

"It's called economics."

my point exactly. if you notice in my previous post, i said that the reason why we still have the same design...
"it means that because people are still making money off of the engine, they see no reason to change. so, as people are still making money in the oil industry, there is nothing to drive them to change or to question why things are the way they are."

i was simply trying to say that there are plenty of smart people out there and that we could do a lot better than the internal combustion engine. if you sit there and say, "well, we've made a lot of improvments," i would respond, is that good enough? why should we settle for 30% efficiency?

and now, i hope can restrain myself as i respond to this...
"How on earth are these applicable to the oil industry? Heck, you could at least have cited things that were illegal - there's certainly enough of them out there. Oh wait, though, if you had cited companies doing illegal things, you'd then have to cite their punishments, and that would ruin your argument."

are you a moron ?
in case you are, here are some more links...
(warning, some may involve oil companies...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon-Mobil
(scroll down to allegations)

http://www.law.washington.edu/pacrim/abstract/12.2 .htm#Awaiting_doe

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20 C14FB3B5B0C778DDDAB0994D9404482

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50 617FD38590C708EDDAC0894D9404482

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1313246.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1180985.stm

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00 E11F63B5D0C738EDDAB0994D8404482

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0 71EF83C5D0C778DDDAF0894DE494D81

oh, i got more...
and if you keep responding, you get a lot more.

"If Amazon.com says "we're going to have a great next quarter! Two quarters from now, though, we're going to be out of business", people would sell Amazon stock like hotcakes."

yes, but Amazon wouldn't say that. if they were about to go out of business, i would guess that, given what previous companies have done, they would most likely try to cook the books.

"You're telling the daughter of an oil pres/VP and niece of a former US congressman. That's bloody rich. Sorry to ruin your fantasy world, but we don't live in a batman comic."

oh, it's rich alright. so's this.
http://www.senate.gov/~feingold/releases/00/09/200 0921959.html
wow. a "cost of living" increase. and they even set it up so that they don't have to vote for it!
hey, would your uncle pass a law that would put your dad's company in peril? oh, wait, this isn't batman is it?

"It's called economics."

my point exactly. if you notice in my previous post, i said that the reason why we still have the same design...
"it means that because people are still making money off of the engine, they see no reason to change. so, as people are still making money in the oil industry, there is nothing to drive them to change or to question why things are the way they are."

i was simply trying to say that there are plenty of smart people out there and that we could do a lot better than the internal combustion engine. if you sit there and say, "well, we've made a lot of improvments," i would respond, is that good enough? why should we settle for 30% efficiency?

and now, i hope can restrain myself as i respond to this...
"How on earth are these applicable to the oil industry? Heck, you could at least have cited things that were illegal - there's certainly enough of them out there. Oh wait, though, if you had cited companies doing illegal things, you'd then have to cite their punishments, and that would ruin your argument."

are you a moron ?
in case you are, here are some more links...
(warning, some may involve oil companies...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon-Mobil
(scroll down to allegations)

http://www.law.washington.edu/pacrim/abstract/12.2 .htm#Awaiting_doe

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20 C14FB3B5B0C778DDDAB0994D9404482

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50 617FD38590C708EDDAC0894D9404482

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1313246.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1180985.stm

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00 E11F63B5D0C738EDDAB0994D8404482

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0 71EF83C5D0C778DDDAF0894DE494D81

oh, i got more...
and if you keep responding, you get a lot more.

"If Amazon.com says "we're going to have a great next quarter! Two quarters from now, though, we're going to be out of business", people would sell Amazon stock like hotcakes."

yes, but Amazon wouldn't say that. if they were about to go out of business, i would guess that, given what previous companies have done, they would most likely try to cook the books.

"You're telling the daughter of an oil pres/VP and niece of a former US congressman. That's bloody rich. Sorry to ruin your fantasy world, but we don't live in a batman comic."

oh, it's rich alright. so's this.
http://www.senate.gov/~feingold/releases/00/09/200 0921959.html
wow. a "cost of living" increase. and they even set it up so that they don't have to vote for it!
hey, would your uncle pass a law that would put your dad's company in peril? oh, wait, this isn't batman is it?

"It's called economics."

my point exactly. if you notice in my previous post, i said that the reason why we still have the same design...
"it means that because people are still making money off of the engine, they see no reason to change. so, as people are still making money in the oil industry, there is nothing to drive them to change or to question why things are the way they are."

i was simply trying to say that there are plenty of smart people out there and that we could do a lot better than the internal combustion engine. if you sit there and say, "well, we've made a lot of improvments," i would respond, is that good enough? why should we settle for 30% efficiency?

and now, i hope can restrain myself as i respond to this...
"How on earth are these applicable to the oil industry? Heck, you could at least have cited things that were illegal - there's certainly enough of them out there. Oh wait, though, if you had cited companies doing illegal things, you'd then have to cite their punishments, and that would ruin your argument."

are you a moron ?
in case you are, here are some more links...
(warning, some may involve oil companies...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon-Mobil
(scroll down to allegations)

http://www.law.washington.edu/pacrim/abstract/12.2 .htm#Awaiting_doe

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20 C14FB3B5B0C778DDDAB0994D9404482

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F50 617FD38590C708EDDAC0894D9404482

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1313246.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1180985.stm

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00 E11F63B5D0C738EDDAB0994D8404482

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0 71EF83C5D0C778DDDAF0894DE494D81

oh, i got more...
and if you keep responding, you get a lot more.