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And 47 years ago, Mr. Gorsky may or may not have got a blowjob.

> Internet for doesn't "solve a problem," it's just convenience. When I wanted to look up a word, I used to grab a dictionary, instead of googling.

Uh, that's a bad example.

Your definition of "problem" is flawed.

The problem is that I want to look something up that I don't know -- I may not even have access to the book(s).
The solution is that the internet has become a repository of shared knowledge.

i.e.
Problem: Look up a definition for a (slang) word that may or may not exist in the dead tree version.
Solution: http://www.urbandictionary.com...

More examples:

Look up if a rumor is true or false
* http://www.snopes.com/

Check facts / trivia
* http://www.wikipedia.org/

Check who was in what movie
* http://www.imdb.com/

> Stolen? No. Settled law.

That story has all the makings of an urban myth.

I went looking for confirmation and all I could find was this substantially different telling.

#18 08 June 2007, 03:34 AM
bugeye

I know an electrical engineer who had a problem with a local television station. They erected one of their transmitter antennas very close to his property. He was unable to watch any television channels because of its power and proximity. It was also causing electrical problems with some appliances and other kinds of interference.

He complained to the station and they claimed that it was not their antenna causing the problem. So, he set up a "christmas tree" in his backyard with an induction coil and 100 watt bulbs. It lit up nicely, and within a couple of days, the television station employees came to apologise and set up some kind of shielding for him.

If you have a source, I'm sure I'm not the only one here who would like to read it.

At least Benito Mussolini made the trains run on time.

No, he didn't.

You google up a list of people that did do jail time on behalf of the Clintons, as a result of their various scandals getting some investigation. Or the people who have had their lives or liberty altered for doing far less than she and her husband have.

I have, it's been debunked multiple times. Full of hyperbole, innuendo and lies.

I guess that is a useful lesson.

Don't trust somebody complaining, yet again, about the Clintons, they probably believe their own farce.

Seriously, the more you screech and harangue us over Hillary, the more I'm convinced you're the one full of shit. Telling us to Google the Clinton death list? Really? It's like you have no idea of how you look, or worse yet, the people you stand shoulder to shoulder with.

You are asserting that the board ran off with money and the executives all bailed with "golden parachutes" prior to Chapter 7 filing

Yes I am!

I don't think you actually have any evidence that this happened

Yes I do!

http://www.snopes.com/Politics...

Both of those actions would have resulted in lawsuits by the creditors

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Oh I think there was plenty of greed involved, just not on the part of the factory workers: Hostess Executives got Raises While Filing for Bankruptcy

As compared to the president who thought there was 52 states?

Who was that? Obama looked to me to have started to say "all 50" states, but corrected himself down to 47 in mid thought/sentence, and said fifty-uh-seven. And didn't bother to redact his "fifty" before revising the number down to 47.

I'd hate to be a politician, a single slip of the tongue and a bunch of self-important twats will jump on for it. Here's the snopes that further elaborates on the event you are referring to in your comment. http://www.snopes.com/politics...

That's from a conservative Republican website, by the way.

Which of course means that they will sensationalize minor gaffes of people they don't like... like Trump. Getting numbers wrong that enumerate things is really quite minor. The article also points out that he misremembered which book of the Bible he wanted to cite. I've done that quite a number of times. It's really no big deal. If these are the sorts of things they want to try to make hay out of, they really should be working harder.

He was also a little Cosbyesque....allegedly. http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/...

The fabricated whatdoesitmean.com story about Guccifer's disappearance was picked up a few days later by the Christian Times Newspaper web site...

Nobody's telling you not to speak out. Ever since the OJ trial, television viewers have appointed themselves legal experts, so it's par for the course that dopes who get their news from alt-right websites are now suddenly Learned Hand.

Anyway, I can relate. I still can't believe Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld didn't face prosecution for actual war crimes. And while we're at it, can we petition the Justice Department to look into Donald Trump's rape of a 13 year-old girl? This is the first time in US history that a candidate for president is being accused of rape of an actual child.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/...

If Trump has done what people say he's done, shouldn't he be indicted, or at least investigated? If "what people say" is a standard, then we're all fucked.

Sucker.

crush his own throat

Except that he wasn't going to be testifying against Clinton: http://www.snopes.com/un-offic...
What kind of fools do you take us for?

But you're right, defying Clinton is like defying the mob. Ask this guy who just happened to "crush his own throat" right before testifying.

Except that none of that is true. His trial wasn't starting in 5 days and he wasn't scheduled to testify against Clinton at all.

This has to be updated: http://www.snopes.com/autos/te...

According to Snopes, this is an urban legend: http://www.snopes.com/autos/te...

The logical argument against GMOs is not that there is anything wrong with modifying genomes

No, it is and always has been exactly that. Where do you think the whole "frankenfood" argument comes from? Stop being so naive.

which is to be raised in soils heavily laden with chemicals

If chemicals are bad, then quite honestly, you should just stop eating period. Every plant that exists is made up of thousands of chemicals. In fact you should stop drinking and breathing too for the same reason. You should probably stop existing too, because your body has thousands of chemicals within it as well.

This has caused a massive increase of such chemicals in our diet. They have been linked to cancer, autism, and a slew of gastrointestinal problems.

No, they haven't. Glyphosate in particular has only been found dangerous to those who handle massive quantities of it at a time, just like many other chemicals, including ones that reside within your body and are supposed to be there. And autism? Are you fucking kidding me? Do you have any idea what autism even is? No, of course you don't; you listen to whatever bro science you find on AlexJones.com and believe it's fact without bothering to cross check it. And besides, your claim is complete bullshit:

http://www.snopes.com/medical/...

People like you are the reason so many hipster douches are horribly wrong on this issue. You are seriously exactly the type of person who would have followed Hitler just because he made a bunch of populist (yet very incorrect) arguments about why Jews are ruining the world. Think as an individual for once in your life. If a bunch of your friends or some "really cool dude" you know makes an incredible claim, view it with a critical eye until you've done your own research. Pamphlets handed around and random "nature is best" blogs don't count as research, in case you had to ask.

Snopes actually says 'undetermined' as to the Ambassador's cause of death. There is an amount of varying information out there, but As of this writing, the U.S. government has still not released any post-mortem information documenting the nature of Ambassador Stevens' death.

http://www.snopes.com/orlando-... 1. What has his political party got to do with anything? 2. Registering one time as a Democrat ten years ago had little to do with whatever his political views were two weeks ago. After all, Trump was a Democrat too. In my mind, when you tossed in the weak link to Democrats you immediately lost any and all credibility. Your further comment about "bleeding hearts" pegged you down as jJust another Rush Limbaugh listening, low info voting, Guns and Ammo reading while while stroking partisan shill.

oh, and about that Watergate comment:
http://www.snopes.com/politics...

A pair of articles published during Hillary Clinton's run for the presidency in 2008, one by Northstar Writers Group founder Dan Calabrese and one by Jerry Zeifman himself, asserted that Zeifman was Hillary's supervisor during the Watergate investigation and that he eventually fired her from the investigation for "unethical, dishonest" conduct. However, whatever Zeifman may have thought of Hillary and her work during the investigation, he was not her supervisor, neither he nor anyone else fired her from her position on the Impeachment Inquiry staff (Zeifman in fact didn't have the power to fire her, even had he wanted to do so), his description of her conduct as "unethical" and "dishonest" is his personal, highly subjective characterization, and the "facts" on which he bases that characterization are ones that he has contradicted himself about on multiple occasions.

When one considers the blank stares received when talking to this age group about world events, how those events may affect them or the history of the event, this is not surprising.

Instead of getting a much more full and complete picture of the event they get a snippet devoid of content. All they hear/read is, "White guy found with child porn" or "Catholic priest rapes young boy", with no understanding of how long this has been going on, what happened to the victim or the punishment of the criminal.

Remember when the protestors were outside Trump's speech in CA and some right-wing tabloid put up a picture of a woman bleeding from the head, claiming this is what the protestor's did to her?

The fact was it a picture from Ash vs. Evil and it was Samara Weaving in full blown horror makeup.

But that's not what they saw. They saw only a woman beaten by Trump protestors when the reality was much different but because they only use social media for "news", the facts of the situation will most likely never be known to them.

Snopes says not true, to at least most of those: FALSE: Clinton Body Count.

Alas, this appears to be apocryphal. http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi...

http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi...

This seems the most likely origin of his tale. Not a 1947 Piper Cub, not a farmer, but the story is close enough.
Unfortunately none of the links are working on the Snopes website to check out the sources.

Well, at least we KNOW that Hillary has heard of the KKK, since she is good friends with a former KKK member.

Former Senator Byrd was actually a KKK member, and very cozy with the Clintons -- close enough to give Hillary a big smooch.

http://www.snopes.com/clinton-...

Those aren't going to be from Siemens. They'll be just microphones and antennae with legs, courtesy of the NSA, CIA, or DIA. I'm sure they're made by US defense contractors.

Bugs that move and look like bugs...

http://www.snopes.com/photos/t...

Remember the story of the handyman's bill. I have no doubt that most people could enter that command. It might take them a minute or two to hunt-and-peck but they are capable of typing it. That's the $1 piece of the puzzle.

Knowing that one way to obtain the software to download Youtube videos is to enter that command, that's another story entirely -- that's the $9,999 piece.

Yep! To join the gang, they have to kill the first person who flashes their lights at them. Then they have to drink a Snapple bottle that depicts a Klan lynching, and forward a mail from Bill Gates 10 times to receive a $200 gift certificate.

This makes me think of the guy that insured his storage of cigars, then smoked them and sued for damages when the insurance company didn't want to pay for them. The insurance company turned it around after they lost and charged the guy with arson.

oh really?

Start ups? Hell, the poultry factory workers don't even get bathroom breaks, and they have to supply their own diapers, right here in the good old USA already. The Chinese have it good. Those offices look nice and clean...

You have the story scrambled. The GMO mosquitos are going to be introduced to kill off the natural organic free-range progressive mosquitos which are spreading the virus.

I think the GP was probably referring to the belief that Zika was caused by GMO mosquitos.

Amazing how quickly news mutates. I am married to a Brazilian. The latest news in Brazil was that the birth defect was caused by a bad batch of vaccines

Sucks if you were one of the 10 or so deaths from what would have been a minor accident, but it's similar to vaccines. Millions of lives have been saved from vaccines, but if you are one of the rare people who has a serious reaction to a vaccine.

Citation needed.

Nobody has ever died from a vaccine. A couple of coincidental deaths that happened close to the time that someone received a vaccine do not prove that the vaccine caused the death.

Please stop spreading FUD.

See http://www.snopes.com/politics...

You have the story scrambled. The GMO mosquitos are going to be introduced to kill off the natural organic free-range progressive mosquitos which are spreading the virus.

I think the GP was probably referring to the belief that Zika was caused by GMO mosquitos.

So what you're saying is "Many people have accused her of things. None of them have been proven true, and most have been demonstrated to be false. But I want her to be guilty and believe them anyways, even the demonstrably false ones."

A quick Google search brings up this about uniforms in the white house. So that looks false too. Will you publicly admit to being wrong, or will you continue believing and trusting news sources which lie to your face? Are you honest or gullible?

There are plenty of reasons to dislike Hillary and her policies. Why do people have to make up lies to hate her? Say what you hate about her policies, but not that she is a corrupt traitor who wants to destroy America.

Margarine and butter are basically the same thing apart from the type of fats used (vegetable and animal respectively). I'm getting really tired of people peddling that margarine is inherently inferior or unhealthy compared to butter, and some people even go so far as to claim margarine is actually plastic based on some chain letter that they read without even questioning it.

Butter is just mechanically processed (or at least can be), margarine is chemically processed with nickel-based catalyst before presumably being mechanically processed.
If butter and margarine were truly equivalent you could churn your own margarine using cooking oil.

Claim: The U.S. constitution requires that presidential and vice-presidential candidates be from different states.

FALSE

Origins: Back in mid-June 2008, while browsing a news wire story about Illinois senator (and presumptive Democratic presidential nominee) Barack Obama's seeking advice from congressional leaders about potential vice-presidential running mates, I came across the following paragraph in that article:
None of the congressional leaders involved in the meetings have figured in speculation about a possible running mate, suggesting that the day's conversations were designed to seek advice. [Illinois senator Dick] Durbin and [Illinois representative Rahm] Emanuel are barred from being on the ticket because the Constitution requires that the presidential and vice presidential candidates be from different states.
This statement reflects a not uncommon misbelief about a fairly obscure point of U.S. constitutional law: The notion that the Constitution requires presidential and vice presidential candidates who run on the same ticket must be from different states. This is not the case;
but in order to fully explicate the origins of this misbelief, we must first essay a bit of background on the origins of the process by which U.S. presidents are elected.

One of the many vexing issues the delegates to the 1787 Constitutional Convention faced, once they had agreed that the new U.S. federal government should include an executive branch headed by an elected president, was how to select the persons who would hold that office. Delegates disagreed about the wisdom of allowing such an important choice to be determined by a popular vote of the citizenry, with Virginia delegate George Mason famously noting that "it would be as unnatural to refer the choice of a proper character for chief magistrate to the people as it would to refer a trial of colors to a blind man." Resolving this issue necessitated one of the many compromises the constitutional delegates agreed upon to complete the task at hand:
The framers agreed on a compromise for choosing the president: the electoral college. Each state would appoint electors, equal to the number of the congressional delegation, who would then vote for president. The underlying assumption of the electoral college was that, in a nation as large as America, the citizenry would not be able to make an informed choice. Instead, elite electors would choose the president in a deliberate atmosphere, free from intrigue and coercion.
The election mechanism specified in Article II of the constitution was that electors would meet in their home states and vote for two candidates each (without expressing a preference between them): Whichever candidate received a majority of the electoral votes would become president, and the runner-up would become vice-president. If the result of the electoral college vote was a tie, or if no candidate received a majority of votes, then the House of Representatives would select the president from the five highest vote-getters. The framers did not anticipate the rise of political parties in the U.S., however, and the likelihood that their electoral system would thus saddle presidents with vice-presidents from opposition parties — as soon happened in 1796, when John Adams was elected president but the runner-up was his political rival, Thomas Jefferson. The Twelfth Amendment was adopted in 1804 to eliminate this circumstance by requiring that electors cast separate ballots for president and vice-president.

The framers did anticipate one potential flaw with their electoral mechanism, though: Since each state would likely consider it to be to their advantage for the nation's chief executive to be a fellow statesman, electors would be tempted to vote only for candidates from their home states. And since every elector would vote for two candidates, and states with larger populations had more representatives in Congress and therefore got to appoint more ele

Can Don still pick Hillary as his running mate?

No. The P and the VP *should not* be from the same state. *One of them is a true* New Yorker.

FTFY...

FWIW, your original statement however, was misinformed. The constitution only bars both electors from a state from voting for inhabitants of their home state. This only makes it disadvantageous for a party to select the P and VP from the same state, but doesn't prohibit it.

They didn't have Snopes back then obviously: http://www.snopes.com/business...

Margarine and butter are basically the same thing apart from the type of fats used (vegetable and animal respectively). I'm getting really tired of people peddling that margarine is inherently inferior or unhealthy compared to butter, and some people even go so far as to claim margarine is actually plastic based on some chain letter that they read without even questioning it.

Yeah, that's why Thatcher and Reagan won.

Seriously, if democracy is always followed by a dictatorship because of loose fiscal policy, we should have seen it by now. Where's the dictatorship in the UK? The only way you can really salvage the quote (which who knows who said) is by no-true-scotsmanning "permanent": the UK isn't a dictatorship yet, but it will be, eventually!

I know this article is "old" by now, but, it's already been 100% proven hoax, confirmed by the original perpetrator:

http://www.snopes.com/man-dele... /. lack of any technical editors or researchers strikes again!

Yes, it was a hoax. It WAS. :)

http://www.snopes.com/man-dele...

Snopes says the Lifeline program began with landlines under President Ronald W. Reagan and was extended to mobile phones under President George W. Bush. Perhaps AC thinks Welfare is these Presidents' middle name.

A soft squishy bird yes, but they don't ingestion test with soft squishy birds, but rather solid frozen birds.

Are you sure?

Somehow this doesn't apply to Clinton. I've never understood that.

Well, I did just note on the red site that she has black "leaders" in her pocket. I still wonder exactly how it happened that a Goldwater Girl is now the darling of black "leadership." I haven't breached the topic with my colored co-workers because I'm too afraid of how that might backfire. I really am interested in knowing the why of it all, and I'd fully respect anything they said but c'est la vie I guess. (I'd campaign for Sanders, but at this point the primary is over and I'm not exactly a persuasive person anyway.) I get along very well with them for the most part. Get to hear interesting things when I take a smoke break. They don't go all hush-hush it's whitie, and I'd like to keep it that way. It irritates the piss out of me when white women go all hush-hush zomg it's an assigned male who looks female RAPIST INVADER BETTER BE CAREFUL!

I really don't take color into account as much as this comment might indicate. However, I've been horrified by what's been coming out about police treatment of blacks, and it's impossible to discuss these things without mentioning skin color. (Yes, I'm aware that oddly the riots only happen when it was a thug who was shot, but again, I'd like to know more. I just can't glean anything satisfactory from even sources like The Root . Eh, that place has too much celebrity news anyway, but I really don't know where to go.)

At any rate, I'm digressing far from the topic, but the Merry Christmas jihadists last year encouraged me to learn more about Kwanzaa. I normally just celebrate the solstice with a few like-minded friends, sometimes Saturnalia as well. It's not that I don't like Christmas. I'm a big fan of the Rankin-Bass specials. We don't exchange gifts for solstice (at least not since the economy went into the shitter) but we do manage to scrape together a holiday feast not much different from Christmas. It's just that the astronomical evidence present in the Bible tells us that celebrating the birth of a possible buddha should be a summer festival, not a winter one. So for me it makes more sense to roll that in with the 4th of July. (lol, the whole neighborhood is often covered by a smoky fog that doesn't dissipate until the 5th, and my friends and I like our explosives! We'll send up a few mortars, then somebody else will, and so on and so forth with many bottle rockets as well. Some years it rivals the city's presentation and I know that none of us are particularly wealthy.) Kwanzaa takes place during the time between Christmas and the Gregorian New Year. It struck me that a lot of what Kwanzaa is about also applies to the GBT community (no L since they've decided they stand apart). So I was thinking about this year maybe getting a kinara and replacing the black candle with a pink one.

And no, shouting "MERRY CHRISTMAS" at me doesn't harm me (it really just makes the jihadists look crazy in my opinion--my psychologist compared what a friend and I experienced last year to homeless bums in big cities shouting crazy nonsense at passers-by). At least shout "NI!" at me if you want to harm me somehow lol. However, if you politely wish me a merry Christmas, I will return the greeting and wish you one as well. I really have no idea where this idea that saying or hearing "merry Christmas" somehow causes pain to homosexuals. It's utterly crazy, but that's where we've all gone in the past couple years: utterly fucking out of our collective minds crazy.

This is what diversity is about, people! Appreciate the great wealth of human traditions, especially the wintertime ones, even if some traditions are newer than others! I've read some rumblings from other ACs that seem to indicate there's some kind of "multiculturalism" thing especially in Europe that means that different peoples shouldn't mix. I think different peoples should mix, as long as they stand behin

There was a phony news story back in 1998 saying that Alabama did this, but it's been debunked.

And it looks like the Indiana bill was never passed, so your Hoosier integrity is intact! :)

Maybe for that particular gaffe; but there are so, so many other examples... ;-)

There was a phony news story back in 1998 saying that Alabama did this, but it's been debunked.

And it looks like the Indiana bill was never passed, so your Hoosier integrity is intact! :)

Yes, see the end of my comment where I noted that I couldn't tell if he was racist or just appealing to racists. Note by the way that the claimed quote about running as a Republican is actually not true: See http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/.

You experience reminds me of the story behind Post-It notes. Contrary to the faithful who believe in Jobs' divine insight into product perfection, a single person very rarely sees or can come up with the best potential use for a new invention. It's only when you distribute it to the masses that people can come up with innovative ways to use it. The inventor of the adhesive used in Post-It notes wasn't able to figure out a good way to use it and the company shelved it. A co-worker who thought of a use for it (sticking bookmarks in his choir book) could only think of that one use. It wasn't until they gave it to a bunch of secretaries to test that the myriad of possible uses for them were discovered.

Smart watches may succeed or fail. The only way we'll find out is for lots of different companies to come up with lots of different variants, which lots of different people buy and use in lots of different ways, with future iterations of that product modified to augment the popular uses that have been found. Innovation does not come from a single company creating a single product with a single vision limited to a single platform.

Who didn't see this coming when Disney bought Lucasfilm? This is just the beginning.

This better hit 5 insightful.

Way back in time.... http://www.snopes.com/disney/w...

In 1989, a day care center in Florida had some paintings of some Disney characters on the wall in their playroom. What better way to get little children to become fans and put more money into the coffers? Little kids begging for their parents to take them to Disney again and again to see the real characters that they fondly remember from a very young age

But Disney didn't see it that way, so they bitchslapped the the center with the threat of legal action.

Hanna Barbera stepped in and allowed the place to use it's characters gratis.

Oh, just wait cosplayers and Star Wars fans. Just wait until the court cases over Han shot first. The C and D lawsuits over sexy Leia bikinis.

If you thought Lucas was an asshole, welcome to your new overlords.