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Ayers said. "Linux would be further relegated to use in servers and business computers, since it would not be providing the multimedia technologies demanded by consumers."

People want music and movies not some greedy pig's Digital Restrictions Management. The absolute failure of "Plays for Sure" to gain any market share is because the DRM sucks. No one wants dissapearing music and convoluted subscription plans. You can, right now, get movies and music outside of such restrictions and that's where people are going to go.

• Archive.org has more than 33,000 live concerts and 70,000 recordings.
• Magnatune has all sorts of good music.
• Star Wreck shows what kind of movie can be made with a good idea and a few junky old computers and a few hundred bucks.

That's just the beginning.

These are the new winners. Their work is excellent and they are the kind of people I want to spend my money on. Do you think for an instant that I'm going to corrupt my computer with crap that will lock them out? I'm not alone. People are already outraged by DRM'd CDs and the only people less trusted than Sony is Microsoft. When whole collections vanish they will really howl. The winners will sit pretty on their nice media and wonder what all the fuss is about. Their market share is going to go up and up.

I'm keeping my set top box for the old losers but it's going away. You can get them for $40 at the walmart and they do a nice slide show if you feed them a CD of your jpegs. I'll give the MPAA four bucks here and there to watch their little movies. That's all it takes to not feel like I live in a cave. As more content becomes available elsewhere, I'll spend less of my time and money on that set top box. I've already dropped cable TV and don't miss it.

It seems when something has gone on long enough people or even groups automatically consider it a right. This is something akin to the hockey strike (which was forever in the Canadian headline while it was on). Players, even rookies, were getting exorbitant amounts of money. Yes, they were skilled, but where they *that* skilled. At some point, the game has gone from something that everyone could watch to something that only the wealthy can afford to see (live) on a regular basis. Moreso, most of the big seats are purchased by corportations.

Movies, and many other industries, are the same. The massive multi-million dollar paycheques that movie stars receive, record execs (not the musicians in most cases, unfortunately), and others has gone on for so long that it seems normal, and they consider it a right. You'll see them blowing away that money on private jets, hookers, and crack, and then they will complain that it's our fault when people have had enough of their washed-out lack-of-talent and are no longer willing to pay such increasing amounts.

There is nothing that requires a movie cost $200 million. Go watch some classics like "Clerks," which was popular despite it's rather low budget. Better yet, go download (or if you're really into supporting the true artists, buy) a copy of Star Wreck, at least to view the SFX. You know what... the acting isn't bad at all, and the effects... pretty damn good if you ask me. All that down with hard work and a passion for what was being done. Sorry, but I'm down with paying for a movie in order to see a ruined reversion of a book, a dozen previews/commercials, and some idiot telling me that I shouldn't pirate movies (if I was, would I be sitting in the damn theatre watching that crap) and equating it to stealing a purse.

How come the cheaper independent movies cost the same as a over priced typical hollywood movie?

Actually, Star Wreck can be downloaded for free from the makers webpage, http://www.starwreck.com/, and the DVD, if ordered from the same page, costs 9.90 euros.

I can't remember the last movie I really enjoyed enough to want it on a DVD player anyway; and creative commons licensed moves like The Perkinning are really no worse than the expensive stuff these days.

I'm certainly not going to upgrade my graphics card just for DRM any more than I would downgrade my OS to windows (which'd probably also be required)

Using BitTorrent doesn't imply stealing. There are a great many very legitimate uses of BitTorrent. For example, you can officially download Sun Microsystems' OpenSolaris through BitTorrent. Mandriva Linux is distributed to its club members also via BitTorrent. There are official distributions of movies like Star Wreck done through BitTorrent. Very legitimate games like Blizzard Entertainment's hugely successful World of Warcraft use the BitTorrent protocol to distribute their patches.

It's because people like you confuse tools and acts that the French government feels it can follow the recommendations of artist organisations and push for implementations of controls in P2P tools such as BitTorrent, in the context of it's new DADVSI law projects.

I would like, here, to remind everybody who hasn't yet figured it out, that a hammer, while it can be used to kill someone by hitting them on the head hard enough, isn't considered a criminal's tool... and as such doesn't implement all kinds of ridiculous controls. Some of the users may be criminals... but there are very legitimate uses for a hammer... just as there are for BitTorrent clients.

I have seen one episode from this series (It also had an actor from the originial series). It was trash, poorly written, poorly acted and not very entertaining. As a contrast, I really enjoyed the parody "Star Wreck - In the Pirkinning". Stunning CGIs, great look and sound and quite funny story. The actors are mostly amateurs as well, but they seem to be just perfect for this film. I lift my hat to the makers of Star Wreck.

Well, sometimes they're good both behind and in front of the cameras.

It won't be the next big thing but I seen far worse. That norwegian star trek/babylon 5 "comedy" for one.

If you're referring to http://www.starwreck.com/, it's Finnish, not Norwegian.

It's not unheard of you know...

Check out The Wreck Store. They now officially sell the DVD to USA too!

B5 Rules

Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning

http://www-fi3.starwreck.com/

Funny!!!

Something like Star Wreck?

Here is a direct link to the trailer http://www-us.starwreck.com/trailer.php

It's quite useful reading through the translator's notes (http://www-fi3.starwreck.com/annotated_translatio n.pdf). Seems that quite a bit was lost in the subtitling.

Here's a forum discussion on the topic : http://forum.starwreck.com/viewtopic.php?t=46 You can vote hot-or-not there. Helmswoman (Tiina) also participating. Behave :)

You can still download it from the US.

Likely their site will /. soon....
Torrent Link!

Here's the link for their Foreign orders page: http://www-us.starwreck.com/dvd/index_e.html

From their website:

http://www-uk.starwreck.com/torrent/star_wreck_itp _subtitled_xvid.torrent

It doesn't even include The Star Wreck !!
http://www-uk.starwreck.com/

Although it's not a Star Wars fan film, Star Wreck is a good example of IT nerds meeting film geeks.

It isn't against "pirates" or illegal downloads. It's the legal downloads they fear.

-mcgrew (yeah, that got my AC post modded down, fuck it. Mind reading capcha="forever")

We all know that ISS isn't up there anymore.

Actually, it's AMISbios, according to a message by someone called ZatHraS at the Star Wreck discussion forum http://forum.starwreck.com/viewtopic.php?t=1608&po stdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0.

"Amis" is short for "ammattikoulu" (Finnish), which can be translated "vocational school". "Hitsaajat" in

AMISbios 6.6 by Hitsaajat technologies Inc.

I recognize that it is supposed to be like that because it is a joke- but it is really weak as a joke- it seemed more silly than funny. Changing the weapons to standard names would strengthen the piece for me and make the other humor stand out more.

The weird technical terminology in SW:ITP (such as "hand twinkler") has been consistently used in the previous Star Wreck movies, as well. They names are equally silly in the original Finnish dialog. There isn't really much you can do about it any longer, as those terms have become an integral part of the Star Wreck series.

That being said, if you have already seen the movie in its entirety, and don't fear of being spoiled any more, you might want to take a look at the annotated English translation which gives some backround to of many of the more peculiar word choices and figures of speech in the English subtitles.

Anyone considering fansubbing or fandubbing In the Pirkinning should study that document very carefully in order not to miss the many in-jokes and subleties in the original script.

Moreover, it would be highly advisable to contact the authors before conceiving translation projects of any kind so that things can be kept well-coordinated and technically sound, and you don't end up needlessly duplicating projects that others have already started working on.

To get in touch with the authors, try dropping a message on the Star Wreck Forum, or simply emailing them.

I recognize that it is supposed to be like that because it is a joke- but it is really weak as a joke- it seemed more silly than funny. Changing the weapons to standard names would strengthen the piece for me and make the other humor stand out more.

The weird technical terminology in SW:ITP (such as "hand twinkler") has been consistently used in the previous Star Wreck movies, as well. They names are equally silly in the original Finnish dialog. There isn't really much you can do about it any longer, as those terms have become an integral part of the Star Wreck series.

That being said, if you have already seen the movie in its entirety, and don't fear of being spoiled any more, you might want to take a look at the annotated English translation which gives some backround to of many of the more peculiar word choices and figures of speech in the English subtitles.

Anyone considering fansubbing or fandubbing In the Pirkinning should study that document very carefully in order not to miss the many in-jokes and subleties in the original script.

Moreover, it would be highly advisable to contact the authors before conceiving translation projects of any kind so that things can be kept well-coordinated and technically sound, and you don't end up needlessly duplicating projects that others have already started working on.

To get in touch with the authors, try dropping a message on the Star Wreck Forum, or simply emailing them.

I recognize that it is supposed to be like that because it is a joke- but it is really weak as a joke- it seemed more silly than funny. Changing the weapons to standard names would strengthen the piece for me and make the other humor stand out more.

The weird technical terminology in SW:ITP (such as "hand twinkler") has been consistently used in the previous Star Wreck movies, as well. They names are equally silly in the original Finnish dialog. There isn't really much you can do about it any longer, as those terms have become an integral part of the Star Wreck series.

That being said, if you have already seen the movie in its entirety, and don't fear of being spoiled any more, you might want to take a look at the annotated English translation which gives some backround to of many of the more peculiar word choices and figures of speech in the English subtitles.

Anyone considering fansubbing or fandubbing In the Pirkinning should study that document very carefully in order not to miss the many in-jokes and subleties in the original script.

Moreover, it would be highly advisable to contact the authors before conceiving translation projects of any kind so that things can be kept well-coordinated and technically sound, and you don't end up needlessly duplicating projects that others have already started working on.

To get in touch with the authors, try dropping a message on the Star Wreck Forum, or simply emailing them.

It's actually Star Wreck 6

Indeed it is.

Please use the torrent file for maximized download. The servers are a bit crowded at the moment. There are several servers in New York, London and in Finland servicing the website and the direct downloads. However those servers typically have only a FE-network interface (100mbps) so it gets pretty crowded in an instant.

However right now at the time of this post it's almost midnight in local Finnish time (EET) so downloading from the Finnish servers might be the fastest direct download link ATM. Lots of fins are either partying/boozing or sleeping at the moment, or have downloaded the movie earlier today.

The Finnish servers are:

http://www-fi.starwreck.com/
http://www-fi2.starwreck.com/

However it is strongly adviced that you use bittorrent - if you want to get the movie a bit faster ;-)

Please use the torrent file for maximized download. The servers are a bit crowded at the moment. There are several servers in New York, London and in Finland servicing the website and the direct downloads. However those servers typically have only a FE-network interface (100mbps) so it gets pretty crowded in an instant.

However right now at the time of this post it's almost midnight in local Finnish time (EET) so downloading from the Finnish servers might be the fastest direct download link ATM. Lots of fins are either partying/boozing or sleeping at the moment, or have downloaded the movie earlier today.

The Finnish servers are:

http://www-fi.starwreck.com/
http://www-fi2.starwreck.com/

However it is strongly adviced that you use bittorrent - if you want to get the movie a bit faster ;-)

Please use http://www.starwreck.com/torrent/star_wreck_itp_su btitled_xvid.torrent to get the torrent. That will serve the file from the fastest server depending on load and your location.

Who cares about Serenity when Star Wreck VI is finally available for download?

Coral cache of the site
Torrent

or perhaps Twinkle.

you can download the other 5 for free here:
http://www.starwreck.com/oldies/

...yes at least the mods keep us happy after the The Babylon 5 Combat Simulator was canceled by Sierra.

I'm looking forward to the fan film Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning getting Finnished.

Movies on another site, the space battles, are kind of amusing, but pretty silly.

None of the videos you mention as examples can be legally downloaded without the permission of all the copyright holders.

For example, in the case of Star Trek fan videos, you'd also probably need permission from the holders of the copyright for Star Trek itself (Paramount, IIRC).

Legal, with explicit permission from Roddenbery's estate.

Legal, under parody laws.

Other videos such as "Starship Exeter" and "Hidden Frontier" are of questionable nature for the producers (their copyright), but legal for you to download. Remember, the people you are getting it from have a copyright of their own, which they may exercise. The only issue is that they may liable for infringing on other's intellectual rights.

As for the Presidential Debates, there are several places where you can get them with the full permission of the copyright holder. Same thing with commericals. e.g. As a viral marketing technique, Accenture provided their videos to the public after they changed their name from Anderson Consulting.

You should probably review your list. It's not legal to torrent things unless:

My list generally assumes that the copyright holders are the ones distributing the work. Examples: Xandros Free ISO, Developing for the Mozilla Platform eBook, Firebird Database, and America's Army.

In short, there are plenty of legal uses for BitTorrent. Legal issues still exist, but no more so than any other downloadable content.

So yes, big special effects can be done on shoestring budgets.

The real problem now, though, is mostly an issue of people simply not having money. Wealth has become so concentrated in our society that breaking out of poverty in any way other than abject slavery is becoming extraordinarily difficult. Big business gets no sympathy from the working poor.

the Star Wreck movie?

I've seen Spaceballs and yes - it is absolutely magnificient!

As for the trailer, the team said that they made it like a serious movie. The movie itself will be filled with humour, but probably with more mature jokes than the school-boy level jokes in the earlier Star Wrecks.

I'm afraid that SW will never see the light on the big screen - without counting the world premiere where only the people participated in the movie in some way (like me as a statist ie. extra ie. mass rioter in the riot scene seen in the trailer). Although it would probably raise Finnkino ticket sales. :)

Yeah and the Iron Pigeon :)
Star Wreck IV - The Kilpailu

Well.. the first Samuli Torssonen's Star Wreck was from the year 1992 and he had no idea of the books. "Star Wreck" as the name is quite easy to come up with as a Star Trek parody name. Here are the old wrecks.

you might want to check out the old ones too...
this one is number 6.

www.starwreck.com/oldies
first ones r crap btw...

In case you don't have DivX
all the other formats

Here's the direct link to the trailer: http://www.starwreck.com/media/itp/star_wreck_itp_ trailer_divx.avi

Actually, there's a separate set of links such as
this and this.

Personally, I never found t-shirts to be so interesting...

Actually, there's a separate set of links such as
this and this.

Personally, I never found t-shirts to be so interesting...