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Do you even bother reading the reports? The entire WEST is less than China, and that was in 2012.
America: 5.10 billion tonnes:
Europe 27: 4.01 billion tonnes:
Japan: 1.26 billion tonnes:
Canada: .53
Australia: .36 billion tonnes
And that adds up to 11,26 billion tonnes

What is China in 2012? 9.86 billion tonnes.
Note that the above was 2012. Each year since then, China has increased, while the west, except Japan and Germany, have decreased. China exceeded the west in 2013, and will do more so in 2014.

And much better measure then per capita is emissions per GDP.

Readers absorb less on Kindles than on paper, study finds http://www.theguardian.com/boo...

Let's see who you're going to bat for:

Revealed: the gas chamber horror of North Korea's gulag
North Korea 'testing chemical weapons on political prisoners'

I find you extraordinary.

A modern wind turbine in typical European conditions generates enough energy to "repay" the costs of building and installing it in about six months. http://www.theguardian.com/env...

Backup can mostly be other renewable sources (solar, hydro, biomass) demand management and storage (pumped water at the moment). For the rare but real occasions when none of this covers the need, cheap gas turbines designed for a low duty cycles seem like the best option.

If we look at examples of other countries with declining birth rates, we see that governments get a bit nervous when birth rates decline too much, and so you start to see more official support and benefits for having children. So, we may see a reduction to some extent, but after a while, society and/or the economy will start encouraging and supporting larger families in some other ways. As one example, in a negative population growth country, buying a home should be more affordable on average due to decreased demand. So, even if birth rates continue to drop for a while, I think they'll probably eventually bounce back to sustainable levels once those factors offset some of the negative pressure to have larger families.

Yeah, I did mention that we are the best that Africa has to offer, right? Good luck to any company trying to set up manufacturing or processing facilities here - the population is so lazy, that even though we have a 25% unemployment rate (in practice it is higher, this low number is due to the way they count "unemployed") the only people who are willing to work as gardeners are from a neighbouring country.

A friend of mine offered me a job flying for Shell out of Nigeria...

They figured out a long time ago that they have to provide their own security, which is why they employ PMCs to provide their own security.

http://www.mercenaryjobs.org/p...

http://www.theguardian.com/bus...

Not only does Shell pay the Nigerian Military millions of dollars (which is really just bribe money), they also employ 1,200 private security.

Shell is spending over a third of a billion dollars a year on security just in Nigeria alone.

Savoury has been thoroughly debunked.

http://www.inexactchange.org/blog/2013/03/11/cows-against-climate-change/

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/georgemonbiot/2014/aug/04/eat-more-meat-and-save-the-world-the-latest-implausible-farming-miracle

Just think about it: already the majority of land used by humans is dedicated to livestock, and is a leading cause of deforestation. You'd have to cut down even MORE forests to make room for what he's talking about. It's an utterly ridiculous concept, and if he had his way could be arguably as bad as his slaughter of elephants. This guy is a quack of the highest possible degree.

I see a lot of similar comments, but I liked yours so I'll address the themes here.

First, facebook is not the only problem. You're kidding yourself if you think it is. The list of technology companies that sucker their users are as long as the list of technology companies that sell 'the cloud'. Google, Yahoo, Microsoft etc.

Worse than this, the evil is not marketing. The real evil is the secret pact between the tech companies and the government's monopoly on the initiation of force, for the benefit of a minority of oligarch families. The elite's technology branch

The real evil is the patriot act, the capture of government, the capture of industry and the subversion of the constitution. All tech companies are a part of this, most willingly, some unwillingly or unwittingly and the only honest ones are forced to shut down.

The capture of the government and industry is nothing new, but it reached tremendous success in the 20th century. First they captured the congress and the judicial, then the executive, then the monetary system and then they really captured the executive with the JFK assassination. Don't forget where some of the recent oligarchs originated.

• Are you against marketing?
• are you for privacy?
• are you for honesty as a virtue?
• are you for Free Software?
• are you for the constitution?
• do you believe in free will? (or that you should act as if it exists)
• do you believe in the traditional family?
• are you religious?
• are you for sound money?
• are you an Austrian or a keynesian?
• do you believe that there really is a 2 party system in the USA?

Do you see it yet? if you rule out the vast majority of the population based on internet usage, you're out of whack. Firstly because that's not the real problem.

Also, you might have MUCH MORE in common with someone who uises fb daily than on someone who doesn't, based on your OTHER principles and virtues.

It's like saying, "I'll only hang out with people who are atheists.". That's not enough. In 10 years time that could still be all you have in common. Or they could change their minds.

Finally I would just like to remind people that not only is the USA responsible for millions of deaths around the world, it now tortures people.

If you refuse to interact with people who support these acts, how will you ever change their minds?

Oh and just for good measure. A fucking surveillance blimp. The internet of things is coming to spy on you from the sky 24/7. Is it not enough that you've captured the mass media? If you were to only hang out with people who share all your principles or most important beliefs, you would not hang out with anyone.

Furthermore, having intelligent debate with people who disagree with you (and are virtuous enough to have an intelligent debate) is the only way that you can make any sort of real progress in self discovery and discovery of the universe. If your ideas an principles are not challenged, if you don't go back to first principles to figure what what's really important, if you don't re-assess your beliefs in the face of new evidence, you'll never improve.

Two of the top results from google search "Congression oversight NSA"

"Obama says NSA has plenty of congressional oversight."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

"The Obama administration, the intelligence agencies and their allies in Congress had made an all-out push to quash the amendment after it unexpectedly made it past the House rules committee late on Monday"
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

I'm sure you'll say some BS like "I never said that the other side was better" but the fact is, you ignored the democrats and neo-libs in your post altogether.

The Silk Railway: freight train from China pulls up in Madrid
The First Yiwu-Madrid Train Starts In Jinhua
Yiwu to Madrid cargo train could touch 3 billion lives
China flags train to Madrid to revive Silk Route

http://www.theguardian.com/pol...

Long live clever marketing campaigns.

I don't doubt that this has been excellent publicity, but I don't think, when you consider the facts, this can be a calculated marketing campaign (the initial pulling and then reinstating of the film may have been, but the hacking and the threats? No).

Where does that leave the claims that NK threatened Sony?

Nobody has made such claims, at least nobody that knows what they were talking about. Anonymous internet users threatened cinema chains. If Sony were behind these threats they could be prosecuted for making a true threat or blackmail. Thus I think it was unlikely to have been Sony.

What is the possibility that this is all part of a clever marketing campaign to get all of us to see the film.

If only unreleased films had been released that might be a valid suggestion. However by releasing private employee data Sony would have exposed themselves to significant reputational damage and legal liability (regardless if they were caught or not). If caught both of those would be astronomical. So no. Sony may have capitalised on it (although their response gives the impression of unprepared chaos, rather than planned marketing campaign).

Sony said it was far too dangerous to release the film...

No they didn't. They said they were pulling it because cinemas weren't showing it:

“In light of the decision by the majority of our exhibitors not to show The Interview, we have decided not to move forward with the planned December 25 theatrical release” source

If it wasn't an intentional marketing campaign, should it have been?

Bar release of private employee data etc. and threats to life and limb then yes, it could have been very effective. But I (and most people) don't like been lied to so if they got caught it would probably backfire spectacularly. (side note: this is the first high profile data security incident I can think of that has elicited sympathy for the victim company rather than anger that their security wasn't up to scratch. Is this because people are recognising that these are increasingly inevitable and the real bad guys are the criminals, and we're reaching a turning point in the way customers and the media view such breaches, or is it because everyone's favourite comedy villain, NK, was involved?)

tl;dr: The hack was real, although may not have been NK. Same for the threats. It's been good publicity for the film but Sony's response has been too incoherent to have been planned.

Human rights pffft who needs them, Cameron's getting rid of them soon:
Cameron's pledge to scrap Human Rights Act angers civil rights groups.

Three stars in the Observer and four stars in the Guardian.

I'll still be going to watch it with friends between Christmas and the New Year.

Three stars in the Observer and four stars in the Guardian.

I'll still be going to watch it with friends between Christmas and the New Year.

There seems to be an option that you missed: seeing if there are indicators that terrorists have an interest in striking.

Major terrorist attack is ‘inevitable’ as Isis fighters return, say EU officials
EU’s 28 governments are said to be struggling to respond to threat of Islamist fighters coming back from Iraq and Syria

Europe faces 'greatest terror threat ever' from jihadists in Iraq and Syria

ETA, IRA, Baader-Meinhof, Red Brigades, all were small potatoes compared to the potential of the Islamists.

There seems to be an option that you missed: seeing if there are indicators that terrorists have an interest in striking.

Major terrorist attack is ‘inevitable’ as Isis fighters return, say EU officials
EU’s 28 governments are said to be struggling to respond to threat of Islamist fighters coming back from Iraq and Syria

Europe faces 'greatest terror threat ever' from jihadists in Iraq and Syria

ETA, IRA, Baader-Meinhof, Red Brigades, all were small potatoes compared to the potential of the Islamists.

Tor Stinks... But it Could be Worse

• Critical mass of targets use Tor. Scaring them away from Tor might be counterproductive.
• We can increase our success rate and provide more client IPs for individual Tor users.
• Will never get 100% but we don't need to provide true IPs for every target every time they use Tor.

http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

Seems the NSA doesn't want targets to move away from Tor because they have some success and are confident of gaining more. They don't need to own all the nodes. It's a documented weak spot that they just need to tap the incoming and outgoing nodes and do timing attacks. Given the NSA's (and their foreign, cooperating counterparts) massive taps on the Internet backbones, that sounds pretty feasible.

Do you have any evidence to back your claim? According to Snowden's documents, the NSA and the GCHQ themselves say that they cannot track Tor users: http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

Is Snowden a "honey pot" too? Most importantly, how much "honey" have you been consuming recently?

Do ya think that's what makes this stupid? Well, consider the fact that a single ship polutes the atmosphere with more carbon in a day than all the cars in the United States in a year... then reassess this idea.

Oh come on. That statement doesn't stand up to the slightest snifftest.

There are 250M cars in the US which means that you would need to have 365x250M (91 billion!) cars for them to emit as much carbon in one day as one of your ships supposedly does.

Yet road transport still emits 5-6x as much as maritime transport:
http://www.eutransportghg2050....

How many cars, buses and trucks would there need to be to emit 5-6x as much carbon as the 10s of thousands of ships there are worldwide?

I suspect you could be maybe 6 orders of magnitude out there.

OK maybe you misapplied some other pollutant? Sulphur Dioxide maybe? Ships burn very dirty bunker oil after all. Here's an article that reckons the largest of container ships can produce the same amount of SO2 as 50M cars in the same timeframe.

Now you're down to only 3 orders of magnitude (5 x 365) out - eg 50M is only a fifth of the number of cars in the US and correcting for one day vs one year.

I'm afraid you can't blame or give credit to Obama for that

BS. Of course, I can blame Obama — he could have and should have gotten Iraqi government to agree for us to stay there longer — based on the new developments.

Then, of course, if you are killing suspected terrorists instead of capturing and interrogating them (so that, heaven forbid, no new prisoners appear in Guantanamo), you might not even be aware of those new developments until you see some decapitations on YouTube. Either way, the affirmative action wonder is as sorry excuse of a president, as Carter was before him...

NY Councilmen can posture and mumble and pass laws all day long but they have no authority over the air.

Big deal.

The NYPD will just shoot you and get away with it, like Akai Gurley.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/24/nyregion/police-tactic-scrutinized-after-accidental-shooting.html?_r=0

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/21/new-york-unarmed-man-shot-dead-totally-innocent

Bill Bratton, NYPD commissioner, said the victim was "completely innocent".

And still no one is in jail, let along charged with a crime.

As the large software company most in cahoots with the NSA from what we know (pre-encryption access Skype, Outlook.com, Hotmail.com etc.):

http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

They could, reasonably, provide the NSA a good platform to plant back doors within commonly used software installed on all platforms. This should be assumed.

Health care and food. The two things that the US does export to Cuba, ever since the Trade Sanction Reform and Export Enhancement Act of 2000. Funny how that works out.

The US sells a lot of food to Cuba. In fact, only a few years ago, they imported 80% of their food, and the bulk of that from the US. That's down to 60% now, but about half their state-owned farmland (which in turn is 70% of all farmland) is sitting unused. Cuba could be a thriving place if it weren't so badly run.

The same goes for health care.

Do you even read?

Climate alarmist say the frenquency will increase quite often.

We dont need the make up predictions. They do that on all their own.

John Cook
http://www.theguardian.com/env...

Michael Mann
http://www.livescience.com/414...

James Hansen
http://www.c-span.org/video/?3...

As asked.

John Cook
http://www.theguardian.com/env...

Michael Mann
http://www.livescience.com/414...

James Hansen
http://www.c-span.org/video/?3...

And this is just one link each, there are many many many more.

John Cook
http://www.theguardian.com/env...

Michael Mann
http://www.livescience.com/414...

James Hansen
http://www.c-span.org/video/?3...

New drought maps show groundwater levels across the U.S. Southwest are in the lowest two to 10 percent since 1949.

The remaining bits, in certain areas, will be poisoned by fracking

Suddenly this article makes sense.
http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

The Bush family buys 100,000 acres over one of the World's largest fresh water aquifers.

Actually, the media were very responsible in their handling and coverage of the siege - working very closely with police.

The Guardian did some analysis which provided some insights into the maturity of the networks and broadcasters during the crisis: http://www.theguardian.com/aus...

You think someone wanting to fight and die because his imaginary friend told him it's a good idea is NOT mentally deranged?

I'm afraid if you look closely, you'll find that a great many people declare this as their motivation for major decisions - including those we elect to lead our sensible western democracies:

George Bush on starting wars, 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq': http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

Tony Abbott (Australian PM) on immigration policy, 'Jesus knew that there was a place for everything and it is not necessarily everyone’s place to come to Australia': http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda...

So it's not really a sensible approach to just declare all such people mentally deranged. We need to look more closely at this motivation and work to eliminate, as far as possible, those elements of it which lead people to make decisions which are otherwise contrary to the accepted civil standards of our society - whether lone wolf acts of terror, political acts of policy-making, or declarations of war on our behalf.

Always good to keep in mind with Skype, courtesy of Edward Snowden, Microsoft, as a partner to the NSA, rewrote it and coded in pre-encryption access for the NSA for all Skype communications (video, audio and text). Microsoft has never said it has taken them out. So always assume that whatever you do on Skype is getting recorded and kept, for future use, by the NSA or one of the other five eyes agencies.

http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

As others have pointed out, last week the U.S. passed a law (and the President signed it), which got no press, authorizing all U.S. citizen communications can be recorded without a warrant and that information can be passed from the NSA (which was created only to spy on external threats...not anymore), kept for as long as the NSA would want and passed directly to law enforcement agencies when they want it. Its not that President Obama won't do anything with your skype communications, its what the future Nixon, McCarthy or (FBI) Hoover, or worse, will do with them.

https://www.techdirt.com/artic...

Once a check has "cleared," the money is in your account and the Bank can't take the money back out even if the check bounces later.

If the check is a forgery, yes they can. For example, employee at XYZ Corp forges a company check to a friend. The check clears. It's later found to be a forgery. Bank can take the money back.

If a cop pulls you over, he legally can't just take all your cash and then not press charges.

Happens all the time under Civil forfeiture.

An undercover cop must answer honestly if you ask him if he is a cop, and he can't initiate an illegal transaction because that would be entrapment.

Oh, you are SO naive. Cops can lie to you about anything. And only the most outrageous police misconduct works as a defense against entrapment.

A judge can't reject a jury's verdict once it is rendered.

Sure they can.

The president can't order the assassination of American citizens without due process.

The "hit list" includes some Americans who were killed w/o due process. Scroll down to read the DoJ memo if you want to.

A woman can't get a man convicted of rape if she has no evidence or witnesses to back it up

Absolutely not true. People are convicted based solely on the victim's testimony that the sex was not consensual.

Zero for 6.

David Mellor is that you?

BUT! Sony reportedly considers the leaked data itself worthy of uploading phony torrents.

http://www.theguardian.com/tec...

To be perfectly honest, does anyone have statistics (recent) on the number of terrorist acts that are committed by Christians? I'd like to compare them with Islamic terrorist acts, because it seems to me that Islamic apologists need a wake-up call.

I don't know about world-wide, but in Mexico extremists in the cult of Santa Muerte are out of control.

"A recent United Nations report estimated nearly 9,000 civilians have been killed and 17,386 wounded in Iraq in 2014, more than half since ISIL fighters seized large parts on northern Iraq in June. It is likely that the group is responsible another several thousand deaths in Syria. To be sure, these numbers are staggering. But in 2013 drug cartels murdered more than 16,000 people in Mexico alone, and another 60,000 from 2006 to 2012 — a rate of more than one killing every half hour for the last seven years. What is worse, these are estimates from the Mexican government, which is known to deflate the actual death toll by about 50 percent.

Statistics alone do not convey the depravity and threat of the cartels. They carry out hundreds of beheadings every year. In addition to decapitations, the cartels are known to dismember and otherwise mutilate the corpses of their victims — displaying piles of bodies prominently in towns to terrorize the public into compliance. They routinely target women and children to further intimidate communities. Like ISIL, the cartels use social media to post graphic images of their atrocious crimes."

Here is my problem: Google has a long history of cooperating with NSA.

Don't believe me? Fine: read these links instead... Yahoo News article about cooperation between Google and NSA, Guardian article, Tom's Guide article.

Even if Google does not/did not/will not cooperate with NSA, Eric Schmidt himself has been cooperating with the US Government, which cast serious doubts about his desire to protect the private information of Google clients.

Again, don't believe me? Fine, read this instead: Julian Assange on Eric Schmidt. Or (even better) this transcript.

Even if Eric Schmidt does not cooperate with the US Government, he has said himself, repeatedly, that privacy is dead and that it's something for hackers.

Don't believe me? Fine, read this instead: EFF article, Gawker article.

In other words, a company that cooperated with the NSA, led by a man who does not care about your privacy (but cares very much about his) is telling you that there is nothing to see here, sure we are protecting your privacy, please buy our products, we are safe and professionals and there is nothing to be afraid of.

Seriously? How come this gasbag is a freaking CEO, paid millions of dollars a year?

yes, he absolutely did.

"George Bush has claimed he was on a mission from God when he launched the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, according to a senior Palestinian politician in an interview to be broadcast by the BBC later this month." (emphasis mine - I mean, Blues Brothers much?) http://www.theguardian.com/wor...

"President Bush's reference to a "crusade" against terrorism, which passed almost unnoticed by Americans, rang alarm bells in Europe. It raised fears that the terrorist attacks could spark a 'clash of civilizations' between Christians and Muslims, sowing fresh winds of hatred and mistrust." http://www.csmonitor.com/2001/...

Non-Christian Presidents of the United States:

(Unitarian)
W. H. Taft
M. Filmore
J. Q. Adams
J. Adams

(No formal affiliations)
A. Johnson
A. Lincoln
T. Jefferson

(Source: Miller Center of Public Affairs, University of Virginia)

It's not the excessive tracking you should be afraid of. What you should worry about is the usage of incomplete data.
As has been covered on slashdot before NSA kills people based on metadata

Now add that together with some accidental killing of a person with the same name

A Reprieve team investigating on the ground in Pakistan turned up what it believes to be a confirmed case of mistaken identity. Someone with the same name as a terror suspect on the Obama administration’s “kill list” was killed on the third attempt by US drones.

What this tells me is that what I really should worry about is to accidentally having metadata that correlates with someone that the government wants dead.

Exactly.
Manufacturing a car produces a significant amount of pollution. If the recession means that fewer cars were sold, and instead the existing cars were used longer, this would reduce pollution.
Unless this effect is accounted for, the headline here is meaningless.

from www.autolife.umd.umich.edu/Environment/E_Overview/E_Overview2.htm:
"Historian Mark Foster has estimated that “fully one-third of the total environmental damage caused by automobiles occurred before they were sold and driven.” He cited a study that estimated that fabricating one car produced 29 tons of waste and 1,207 million cubic yards of polluted air. Extracting iron ore, bauxite, petroleum, copper, lead, and a variety of other raw materials to process steel, aluminum, plastics, glass, rubber, and other products necessary to construct automobiles consumes limited resources, uses great amounts of energy, and has serious environmental repercussions."

see also:
http://www.theguardian.com/env...

And before you ask for a citation regarding those child molestation/murder cults among the elite:

http://www.theguardian.com/soc...

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/u...

Rooftop solar and battery storage cannot even begin to compete with efficient central generation and distribution.

I would think utilities think 10, 20 maybe 30 years ahead. Because they have to invest in building things. Large things.

In Germany they had a public opinion that renewable energy would be a good thing, so politics created a fund which put money behind it, lots of money.

The result:
http://www.greentechmedia.com/...

Investments by electrical companies have become really hard to do, because they are making less and less money on their investments:
"Wholesale electricity prices in Germany have dropped 60 percent since 2008 as renewable energy, which is heavily subsidized and has priority access to the grid, gets dispatched first due to its much lower short-term marginal production costs than traditional plants, displacing natural gas, coal and nuclear power."
http://instituteforenergyresea...

Their next goal ? Funding energy storage technologies:
http://www.energystorageforum....

So what did the largest utility company do ?:
http://www.theguardian.com/env...

but you have not come close to proving I've said any lies.

The untruths consisted of:

1. Accusing Republicans of passing the Patriot Act in 2000 — the stupid law passed Congress 357 to 66, and Senate — 98 to 1.
2. Accusing Republicans of introducing the civil forfeiture laws — a mistake you've already acknowledged since.
3. Implying, Republicans are the reason, our Second Amendment right is trampled — and, at best, is treated as a mere privilege at best. You said nothing on this explicitly, but your post was a reply to mine, where I was talking about the Second Amendment and nothing else.

No, you didn't explicitly say "Democrats are innocent", but a lie by omission is still a lie.

If you don't agree with everything the ACLU

The one time I sent ACLU money, they sent me a membership card (I still have it). Two weeks later a solicitation to subscribe to "The Nation" (a disgusting Communist rag) arrived at the same address (I tag both my electronic and regular mail addresses with strings identifying the correspondents). The card had a picture showing American President in chains on it — anybody publishing such a picture today would've been denounced as "racist" and investigated by the Secret Service.

That ACLU would choose to ally itself with Illiberals in general and Communists in particular is why I'm now deeply suspicious of anything else they do. The staunchest of American Conservatives treat gays and the Freedom of Speech better, than Hamas or USSR, which are subject of much sympathy and even praise of "The Nation"...

To a first approximation, the modern Democratic party is almost exactly like the modern Republican party.

Nope. Though neither are, of course, Libertarian, the Democrats are much worse. What a Republican like Bush would do reluctantly and as an exception — be it the already mentioned civil forfeitures or drone killings — a Democrat would do willingly and make it a rule.

Lastly, Republicans may not agree with Libertarians on everything, but only Democrats openly sneer at us. Right here on /..

I wouldn't ask Clint Eastwood that question if I were you....

I find it hard to believe that every Barney Fife across the country needs to wear a body camera because one cop in Ferguson killed someone that was attacking him.

Preventing another Ferguson is the catalyst, but certainly not the only reason for copcams. The cameras provide accountability. They reduce violence, since both the cop and the perp will behave better on camera. BIG ONE: They dramatically reduce lawsuits against the police. Partly because there are fewer incidents, but also because there is less dispute about what happened. They also make prosecutions faster and less expensive, since there is no dispute about what was seen or heard by the cop.

Citations:
California police body cams cut violence
Year long study on the effect of Copcams

Every cop car should have a dashcam.
Every patrolling cop should have a bodycam.

Why didn't you google it you lazy ****

My week as an Amazon insider | Technology | The Guardian

I Was a Warehouse Wage Slave | Mother Jones

'Being homeless is better than working for Amazon' | Money ...

Why didn't you google it you lazy ****

My week as an Amazon insider | Technology | The Guardian

I Was a Warehouse Wage Slave | Mother Jones

'Being homeless is better than working for Amazon' | Money ...

It's only a bargain if you actually need it - not my words, but I did think along the same lines when I was watching the mayhem.

Black Friday scuffles: 'I got a Dyson but I don’t even know if I want it'

Frustrated with not being able to buy a Blaupunkt 40” TV reduced from £299.99 to £149.99, Haggerty rushed to pick up a Dyson Animal Vac, down from £319.99 to £159.99. “I don’t even know how much it costs, I don’t know even know if I’m going to buy it. I just wanted something,” she said. “There are lads in there three, four, five tellies. It’s not fair.”

One of those lads was Andy Blackett, 30, an estate agent, who had two trolleys full of bargains. “I got two coffee makers, two tablets, two TVs and a stereo,” he said. “I couldn’t tell you the prices, but I know they’re bargains.”

Makes me proud of the country I live in.

I live in Brisbane Australia and I bought a new Golf diesel 2011 model, goes like hell, great economy and lower pollution rating etc than any of the petrol locals could produce at the time. Better value for money, better car, easier on the environment... everyone a winner. Given a choice I will never buy a petrol engine again, the diesels are just that much better. At the time I took a bit of interest in the pollution and efficiency side of things and read around and stumbled upon a couple of links about the big polluters..... http://earthjustice.org/featur... http://www.theguardian.com/env... There is plenty more info out there, you just have to want to be informed. Happy reading guys and gals, I hope Santa is good to you all this year.

So, you're arguing that due to English schtupidity (pronounce as Clarkson), Google should conceal factually correct data from being discovered while it is perfectly visible elsewhere on the web?

No, I'm arguing that because of human nature search engines should be required not to promote misleading or inaccurate information that may lead to unfair inferences being drawn about innocent people, once the search engines are explicitly made aware that they are doing so.

If one would really want to protect the acquitted, the law should mandate that the article be amended with information regarding the acquittal.

Ideally, yes. Unfortunately from this point of view, there are plenty of places in the world where they will tell you to go hang, because their right to mislead people about you is more important than your right to be treated fairly. This law is the closest we have right now to routing around that problem.

You have the freedom of movement that extends to the border of my properties. Your freedom of expression extends to the right to say whatever you want. Spray painting is not free speech, that would be infringement on my property rights.

Indeed. But if you apply the same logic from the other direction to cases like this, you see why it's important not to promote misleading or incorrect information about innocent people.

The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

I suppose the difference is that in the centuries since Jefferson said that, we have learned that the pen is mightier than the sword, the printing press is mightier than the pen, and the Internet gives anyone the power of a printing press that can reach an audience of billions in moments and at negligible cost.

I'm not going to rant about how guilty Darren Wilson was. To tell the truth, I don't know if he was guilty. But I just don't understand how there wasn't enough evidence to at least take this to trial. There were multiple witnesses saying that Mike Brown had his hands up and was not attacking Darren Wilson when he was shot. This alone to me is enough to at least take it to trial and see all the evidence to try and figure out exactly what happened.

It's Incredibly Rare For A Grand Jury To Do What Ferguson's Just Did, as in it basically never happens. So how "lucky" is Darren Wilson?!

The National Bar association doesn't seem to impressed with the decision either!

Interesting reads here (How Darren Wilson avoided criminal charges for killing Michael Brown) and here (New photos of Darren Wilson released as 'secret' letter written by police officer is revealed).