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"Intel's new Prescott has 64 bit instructions lurking inside. Could really rain on the parade of those who thought the new Athlon 64's would be supreme - especially when you look at Intel's price roadmap. Don't run out and buy an Athlon 64 just yet..."

This is the Prescott with the 103W Thermal Dissipation? Will we still hear people complaining that their 68W AthlonXP turns their room into a sauna?

Do you not think AMD will match or better those prices?

WHy would it rain on their parade? It would simply mean that software would be ported much more quickly if Intel announced that they were implementing AMD's x86-64 architecture. There is no way they could start a different architecture, Intel-x86-64 would be a flop.

It's been floating around for a while, and The Inq has a companion research link where you can verify all the assertions in the Groklaw letter.

All according to an article the mother-of-all-sources The Inquirer!

Offtopic? Hrrrrrmmm... Well, yes... But severely interestingly so, anyhow!

Galactically yours,

G3ckoG33k

All according to an article the mother-of-all-sources The Inquirer!

Offtopic? Hrrrrrmmm... Well, yes... But severely interestingly so, anyhow!

Galactically yours,

G3ckoG33k

Here is a link to above story about possible 64 Bit Yamhill processor in the works.

link

Failsafes like this one?

I am not really upset about all these CEOs earning a butt load of money if the economy is good and their companies are doing fine. However, when executives start to come up with insane salaries and benefits during the times of high unemployment and economical downturn... that is totally another story.

Take HP for example. The company has been in the toilet for a long while. It experienced layoffs and moved jobs to India. However, nothing stopped it from buying two Golfstream jets. Read here about it. Is it banged up or what? If they hired thousdands of American IT workers, started making profits and moved jobs from India, I would not bitch about it. Why bitch if they can afford the jets? Nowadays, the situation is different. American workers are overworked and we still consider medical benefits a luxury. It is really fucking nice to know that while thousands of qualified people are looking for jobs, there is a couple of people that can fly jets to work. Rock on, Mr. President.

The Windows ATM experience

P.S. Nice try on the sig. Those are for APPLICATIONS not Linux you dolt. Here is my new sig

31 Unpatched IE security holes
Server attacks stump Microsoft
Credit card theft feared in Windows flaw
Microsoft issues patch for "serious" XP hole
Windows flaw threatens PC services
Microsoft's Source Code Actions Speak Louder Than Words
Why I hate Microsoft
bsod_videowall
bsod_airport
License to plunder
Microsoft Media Player logs users' DVD picks
MS wanted to 'extend, embrace and extinguish' competition
Microsoft Palladium
Control with fine print
Microsoft WinXP Update spies on other PC software
Microsoft Windows: Insecure by Design
Microsoft software "riddled with vulnerabilities", trade body claims
Microsoft Issues Five New Security Warnings
Why Open Source Software / Free Software

P.S. Nice try on the sig. Those are for APPLICATIONS not Linux you dolt. Here is my new sig

31 Unpatched IE security holes
Server attacks stump Microsoft
Credit card theft feared in Windows flaw
Microsoft issues patch for "serious" XP hole
Windows flaw threatens PC services
Microsoft's Source Code Actions Speak Louder Than Words
Why I hate Microsoft
bsod_videowall
bsod_airport
License to plunder
Microsoft Media Player logs users' DVD picks
MS wanted to 'extend, embrace and extinguish' competition
Microsoft Palladium
Control with fine print
Microsoft WinXP Update spies on other PC software
Microsoft Windows: Insecure by Design
Microsoft software "riddled with vulnerabilities", trade body claims
Microsoft Issues Five New Security Warnings
Why Open Source Software / Free Software

P4 has had 3 sockets (including the new Prescott) with the same types of changes that Athlon has gone through. Don't forget that the server chip (Xeon) has had a few sockets of its own. Athlon has had 2 (including Slot A). Since Thunderbird, there have been no changes to Athlon's socket. Compare the amount of time that each chip has spent on its current socket. Athlon has had around 2 years, P4 around 1.

Here's some press about Prescott:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10438
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8011

And to prove that I don't only read The Inq:
http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.html?i=2001 4

I could probably dig up some more if you are really interested.

P4 has had 3 sockets (including the new Prescott) with the same types of changes that Athlon has gone through. Don't forget that the server chip (Xeon) has had a few sockets of its own. Athlon has had 2 (including Slot A). Since Thunderbird, there have been no changes to Athlon's socket. Compare the amount of time that each chip has spent on its current socket. Athlon has had around 2 years, P4 around 1.

Here's some press about Prescott:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10438
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=8011

And to prove that I don't only read The Inq:
http://www.anandtech.com/news/shownews.html?i=2001 4

I could probably dig up some more if you are really interested.

The second part of their article is here.

Not to be labeled a fanboy (although not necessarily denying that status)... but this sounds like a paper launch just to take some press away from AMD.

"He [Burns] said the chip will be available to buy in the 30-60-day timeframe." from this article.

Prescott is going to be late and has been getting bad press for not being backward compatible with current motherboards. Why not make some noise with a product that wont be around for another month?

The announcement of a 3.2GHz P4 with 2MB of cache targeted at gamers as reported by The Enquirer is more of an eye opener to me. The price tag will probable live up to the "Extreme" label tho, seems like they are affraid that the Athlon 64 will take away some of their "bleeding edge gotta have it" revenue.

It was really about money, why has Hp fired 1000's workers, replaced them with indian workers, and then went out and bought 2 $60 million dollar jets to replace their 1999 ones?

I cant dig up the slashdot post, but here is The Inquirer article from Jun 18th. Someone did this well before esr did.

Its not new, Its not esr's Idea, Its almost 3 months old!!!

Not new, 3 months old, yes. But how can you conclude that the anonymous
correspondent to the Inquirer is not ESR? The correspondent describes
ESR's algorithm in detail. The only significant difference is in June he was using 5-line shreds instead of 3-line shreds.

I cant dig up the slashdot post, but here is The Inquirer article from Jun 18th. Someone did this well before esr did.

Its not new, Its not esr's Idea, Its almost 3 months old!!!

www.theinquirer.net

>THE UK GOVERNMENT has announced plans to keep an electronic file on every child in England in a range of new child protection measures announced by prime minister Tony Bliar.

>The children's files together with their unique e-number will be managed by local authorities in a "local information hub". The file will contain the name, address and date of birth of each child, together with the name of the school attended and whether the child is known to such agencies as the police, social services or educational welfare. Where multiple agencies are involved the file will denote which one profesional will have overall reponsibilty

Yet again... launched to "protect" the children... and yet another place where incorrect information can have devastating consequences for the parents of a child if a mistake is made during data entry...

Teacher notices bruises on child's torso... entry in database... social services could now be investigating for child abuse when it could have been a simple injury from a fall... but the reason might not have been entered later after investigation by the teacher however that entry will be there forever... Same child misses school several days in a row for a perfectly valid reason some months later... yet again social services could put 2 and 2 together later on and make 5...

What's the bet's they'll try and fly this kite by saying "the innocent have nothing to fear"??? If there's anything to go by from previous cases... the innocent have everything to fear when social services get it in their minds that there could be abuse when there isn't...

Sega showed us it takes more than originality in game design to survive in the console industry. It takes a viable platform and large installed user base. Sony just announced it's shipped over 60 million PS2. Nintendo announced that it sold 15 million GBA and hopes it'll sell 6 million GC by March 2004. Granted console sales alone are no gauge of the financial health of a game company, but while Sony touts its online strategy with EA Sports currently exclusive support, it's penetration of the Middle East/Europe market, all Nintendo can talk about is its GBA-GC link (whoop-de-doo, "wait, you're telling me that I can play a portable game system in MY OWN HOME? Wow. What's next? A park full of mobile homes that don't go anywhere?") and its next big console (which they should call the Osbourne-2). Not helping is Nintendo's reputation for arrogant indifference towards the interests of 3rd party developers (the paternalistic "Seal of Quality" for the NES, keeping the cartidge system when 3rd parties were clamoring for a CD format, an extremely litigous culture) survives, despite Nintendo's attempts to rehabilitate its image among game developers. At the last Game Developer's Conference, Sony had a HUGE booth and their head of developer relations ran his ass off meeting with developers. Nintendo (to quote gignews.com) "acted as if North American developers were about as relevant as airline customer service." And what if players don't want to play Pikmin, Warioware or Metroid Prime? Is it their fault that they want games they see on other consoles? If Mario, Zelda, F-Zero GX, Metroid, Resident Evil 0, Final Fantasy Chronicles and all the other GC exclusive titles haven't convinced a console buyer to to buy a GC, nothing will. With 80,000 (or 800,000 which still sucks) GC sales in the last quarter, you can basically assume that anyone who's would buy a GC for exclusive games has already bought one. Now they have to expand their appeal to everyone else. Nintendo has to understand that gamers buy what they want to play, not what Nintendo thinks that they want to play. It's fine for Nintendo to make innovative, original games the "Nintendo way" but they can't continue to turn a blind eye to the success that 3rd party support has brought PS2 as a platform.

SCO still has programmers? I thought they fired them all and used the money to hire lawyers instead.

They certainly don't have a VP of Engineering any more.

"Programs" such as FreeBSD, Linux, or Windows 2003?

There will actually be two lines at launch. The 940-pin Athlon64FX(1-way Opteron) will have dual channel DDR while the cheaper 754-pin Athlon64 will have single channel DDR.


Athlon64 Showing Up
Pricing for Athlon 64 leaks: 939 pin chip won't be compatible with 940 CPU

Intel doesn't have an x86-64 line of processors. They have an IA64 line of processors.

The two apparently aren't interchangable. There's a coming battle in which software companies have to choose between the two, or support both, which would be tough on both them and consumers.

Apparently, AMD's x86-64 set is easier to deal with, and more of a natural progression from where the processors are now. (It also apparently runs 32-bit code at rates comparable to 32-bit chips at the same clock speed.) Intel's IA-64 is a total reworking, and a bitch to work with, from what I've read.

In the end, it seems like the smart choice would be for everybody to toss their hat in with x86-64 (which means Intel would have to, as well, and essentially concede defeat and lose face); it probably won't happen, though, because Intel is Intel.

Check out this article at the Inquirer, which I've basically just paraphrased, but it does go into some interesting Windows 64 dealings.

Or insecurities in computers.
Recent grid failure in the U.S. and Ontario may (likely?) be related to computer problems.

For Linus Torvalds, DRM is perfectly OK with Linux

Once (and if) Apple gets their iTunes music store over to windows, and into international markets we will slowly begin to see the CD market go the way of the horse and buggy.

This guy's having a go at selling on what he's "bought" from iTunes. Claiming that the doctrine of "First Sale" allows him to sell it on. (www.theinquirer.net)

This one could be interesting as well... :)

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=11321

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, SCO = PWNED

The Inquirer:

SCO fined 10,000 or CEO goes to gaol

Injunction breached, site claims

By INQUIRER staff: Tuesday 02 September 2003, 10:51 A REPORT ON a German web site said that SCO faces a fine of 10,000 or alternatively its CEO can spend 10 days in clink for violating an injunction.

According to Pro-Linux.de, the site kept on claiming that Linux breaches SCO intellectual property and copyrights, even though it was ordered by a German judge earlier this year to stop doing that.

The site claims that SCO has to divvy up the Euros with delay.

Stephen

You mean something like this?.

nah.

Just tell them that the virus did it. If you make sure to run your firewall on an insecure OS, you can also claim that the virus ate your data, or that it was lost in your weekly reinstallation of said os.

heh. for once, a good excuse NOT to run a secure os.

You won't be voting for Bush then?

Updated Inquirer story:

Blake Stowell, director of public relations at SCO, told the INQUIRER late today: "Just because we aren't "planning" to sue Linux companies doesn't mean we won't. We tried to avoid suing Red Hat, but they seemed to bring the litigation upon us, not us upon them. Also, just because we are saying that we won't sue Linux companies doesn't mean that we won't sue Linux customers".

BUT WAIT!! More from the SCO asylum: "Blake Stowell, director of public relations at SCO, told the INQUIRER late today: "Just because we aren't "planning" to sue Linux companies doesn't mean we won't. We tried to avoid suing Red Hat, but they seemed to bring the litigation upon us, not us upon them. Also, just because we are saying that we won't sue Linux companies doesn't mean that we won't sue Linux customers"." From here

From u the inquirer

Blake Stowell, director of public relations at SCO, told the INQUIRER late today: "Just because we aren't "planning" to sue Linux companies doesn't mean we won't. [...]

Also, just because we are saying that we won't sue Linux companies doesn't mean that we won't sue Linux customers".

My conjecture is that at this time they can't afford the retainer to Boise et al to undertake any new litigation.

An alternate theory is based on the fact that their "letter to Linux users" has indeed disappeared from www.sco.*: perhaps the pseudo-softening of their position is the result of a cease-and-desist order.

> If Microsoft decides to treat better their clients, it will involve many expenses (they can afford them anyway), but I don't think they will really appreciate it.

The Seattle Times has conducted an interesting interview with Microsoft Vice President and CIO Rick Devenuti, in which he comments on the company's internal testing procedure called dogfooding and explains why he has a PC running Red Hat Linux in his office. Devenuti's comments about ATMs needing "five nines" uptime is especially ironic given this incident. Picture here

> If Microsoft decides to treat better their clients, it will involve many expenses (they can afford them anyway), but I don't think they will really appreciate it.

The Seattle Times has conducted an interesting interview with Microsoft Vice President and CIO Rick Devenuti, in which he comments on the company's internal testing procedure called dogfooding and explains why he has a PC running Red Hat Linux in his office. Devenuti's comments about ATMs needing "five nines" uptime is especially ironic given this incident. Picture here

Man, how did this make Slashdot

Here is a more interesting story...

The Seattle Times has conducted an interesting interview with Rick Devenuti, Microsoft Vice President and CIO, in which he comments on the company's internal testing procedure called dogfooding and explains why he has a PC running RedHat Linux in his office. Devenuti's comments about ATMs needing "five nines" uptime is especially ironic given this incident. Picture here

Man, how did this make Slashdot

Here is a more interesting story...

The Seattle Times has conducted an interesting interview with Rick Devenuti, Microsoft Vice President and CIO, in which he comments on the company's internal testing procedure called dogfooding and explains why he has a PC running RedHat Linux in his office. Devenuti's comments about ATMs needing "five nines" uptime is especially ironic given this incident. Picture here

This is all pretty amusing stuff, but I can't believe they left this story out:

I just wish the slashdot editors would check the submitted blurbs against the content of the articles, even superficially.

HP Doesn't appear to claim or remotely imply they might have bought licenses from SCO, or that they recognize SCO's outrageous claims in any sense whatsoever. Indeed, this article seems to indicate that they are ignoring SCO, as everyone else ought to as well (the trial will determine this, and the judgement, while virtually a foregone conclusion -- SCO loses, will determine what, if any, licensing fees anyone should pay.


HP LAST WEEK claimed that it doesn't infringe on the copyrights SCO claims it owns on Linux, according to a special edition of Terry Shannon's Shannon knows HPC newsletter.

The newsletter quoted Linux business strategist Mike Balma as saying at HP World that while HP didn't comment on law suits, HP "has found no infringement issues" using Linux.

The same newsletter claimed that HP has 3.2K Linux boxes installed throughout HP.


It seems rather clear that management at SCO talked to legal, who probably advised them that SCO's claims are frivolous and will not hold up in court, and not to pay. Ergo, HP claims it does not infringe on SCO's copyrights.

Or SCO looked at the Heise images, realized that they do not use the hardware platform the alleged infringing code is in, but rather Intel. (As an aside, since almost everyone uses Intel, Power PC, Alpha, or ARM architectures, that includes HP and 99.999% or more of all GNU/Linux deployments everywhere.)

HP certainly would have nothing to gain, and everything to lose, by going along with SCO, so in light of this article it seems the blurb's innuendo is more than a little misplaced (hardly a first for slashdot, but still...). Indeed, quite the opposite is happening here: HP evaluated SCOs claims and likely filed their "invoice" right where it belonged, either under "pending litigation against litigious thugs trying to shake us down" or the more general Circular File.

According to this story over at The Inquirer [...], SCO has officially announced that HP is safe from their infringement lawsuit brigade ...

No.

According to this story over at The Inquirer [...], SCO has officially announced that HP is safe from their infringement lawsuit brigade ...

No.

...that discusses getting preliminary injunctions against them, you can go here.

A lot of individual users of open source might not be very interested in this, but in the grand scheme of things, it's very important.

As Linux and other FOSS becomes more widely known, whether or not companies and institutions choose to deploy it more widely depends critically on efforts like this.

While knowledgeable geeks can dismiss worms and viri to the land of Windows, people in charge of IT have been burned pretty badly by these over the years. Their suspicions of software have been tempered in the fire of what's been happening - before they deploy something new and better, they want to see more than anecdotal evidence about security, and having a process in place for security checking is an essential ingredient (much like the certifications that IBM and SuSE have recently obtained.).

Yes, a knowledgeable and thoroughly trained sysadmin ought to be able to secure his boxes and right from wrong. But CIO's feel better when their company's security is backed up by compliance with standards and processes and not just by a gut hunchy that their sysadmin is "rock solid".

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant a few days ago?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant a few days ago?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?

Why is Slashdot silent about the DoS attack on SCO perpetrated by an open source zealot who apparently was inspired by ESR's ridiculous militant rant?