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This guy wants to mutilate my penis! What a sick, demented bastard.
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Re:But Wait...
Your excuse is bullshit. But of course, you knew that already.
I take offense at that. I'm not looking to excuse anything. I don't watch Fox (Entertainment or News). I don't like their products (or the fact that to them it's all product.) But the ratings prove my point: The worst rated FoxNews show is better rated than anything on MSNBC or CNN.
Rupert Murdoch might be a bit of a right winger, but I think he's more loyal to money. Of the four broadcast networks, Fox (entertainment) is one of the most liberal. Take a look at his flagship tabloid in the U.K. if you want to see more liberalism from Murdoch: The Sun.
Murdoch is a cynical, trash-peddling, capitalist pig not a right-wing ideolog. If you're going to despise him, do it from an educated perspective. -
and the solution is ....
... http://www.totousa.com/washlets_landing2.asp With a remote that will please the geek in every guy.
but be warned http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2001320029-2007 210556,00.html (don't piss on the seat) -
Take the report with an enormous grain of salt
The Sun, as others have commented, is noted for its -- not-necessarily-true articles. For instance, they reported that Martha's character would be gone in season 4 -- which the BBC has roundly denied. And earlier, they wrote that David Tennant would be leaving the role. I get the feeling that someone working at The Sun really doesn't like the show...
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Re:Perceived surveillance changes behavior
People behave differently when they believe they believe they are being watched. They act in accordance with how they believe their behavior will be perceived. This perception therefore acts as a powerful form of control, one which is internalized by those under surveillance.
Unfortunately, I think you'd have lost the average Sun reader after 'People'. -
Re:Big Brother alive and well in the UK
Oh, they're also planting cameras in baked bean cans to catch people who put their rubbish out on the wrong day.
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Re:In what is that a danger?
I guess you don't know much about iran.
Iran is perhaps the most extreme fundamentalist muslim nation in the world.
They're leader preaches for hate of everything non-muslim, and for the destruction of the western society.
Perhaps you should read some of the latest speeches from Ahmadinijad and about iran:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0%2C%2C2-200705067 7%2C00.html&cid=0
http://www.mlive.com/newsflash/international/index .ssf?/base/international-36/117096206117070.xml&st orylist=international
http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/35552.html
http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level_English.php?cat= Politics&loid=8.0.384504986&par=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RXL2HKEOGw&mode=re lated&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wkF3Pkup5g&mode=re lated&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRkQMv-3R2k&mode=re lated&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6q2h1lKOF0&mode=re lated&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nMak6VnH4U&mode=re lated&search=
and many many more... just open your eyes and realize who you're talking about. -
Yuz Asuf
Haha, Slashdot - the Sun of the Internet. This won't happen in a million years.
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Re:I may be working on that ap
From taking patent law, this application reminds me of a case: Juicy Whip v. Orange Bang, involving a device meant to display a fake drink container to trick consumers into thinking their drink was being dispensed from a bubbling container instead of being made on-the-fly from mix. The courts concluded that the immorality of an invention was no bar to its being patented. Although the PTO reacted to Rifkin's stunt of trying to patent human/animal chimeras by saying there'll be no patents on monsters."
To be fair, non-consensual iris-scanning tech isn't innately evil, just evil in how it's going to be used. On a related note see this story claiming that leaked UK documents show a plan to upgrade cameras to use "T-ray" tech, spying on people through their clothes. (Not sure it's actually practical to do this from a street-corner camera; don't you need an active beam generator?) Add better AI and we will, presumably, have a government that watches all citizens at all times for suspicious behavior.
For anyone that hasn't heard of it yet, check out David Brin's The Transparent Society for a different take on the privacy issue. -
Re:Not the usenet posting
I think you'll have to take that up with Tom: http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,4-2007030603,0
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Yes, but
Some headlines are just better left where they are :
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004040451,00 .html -
What would I do?
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Re:They will not end in prison.
It's unusual in germany to go
to prison for your first misdeed. Except really hard crimes
like homicide, second degree murder, forays, raping of course.
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Re:The bigger question is...
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Re:I don't think this is that bad
I could have sworn I saw a story not too long ago about a man getting busted for just that (in the USA), but was only able to find a story about a person being fined for it in the UK:
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Re:I don't think this is that bad
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Old news!
This was mildly interesting when it was reported about the SAS ages ago.
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Re:Modernization of the Russian Economy
Right now, we must concentrate on steering Russia towards developing a true democracy...
Especially one where people are no longer being assassinated, poisoned, "disappeared" or otherwise shut down. Is there any country on the planet that is become more free and its citizens getting more rights? -
Re:The Netherlands
I absolutely agree. I only wish we'd adopt the same system here in the UK where even Americans are turning up to claim asylum, freely admitting it's because of the free healthcare they can get over here.
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Will it work? Just ask it!
Feed Schmidt's prediction to the truth predictor itself.
In other news, Google has "no plans" to simply offshore the work of answering these questions to an Indian call center. -
To boldly go... or wimp out and stay home
In other news this morning, apparently Branson has offered Wm. Shatner a free trip... but he's too scared to go (unless they pay him...)
eg. http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006410413,00 .html
Ok, so maybe we should give the guy a break since he's 70-odd, but really if you got that far mightn't you just want to do that one last big thing whether it killed you or not? -
Re:These things are easy to spot and remove
I have been following this as I live in the area where these bins are being used. This news story is from the same area:
Bin spy bug vigilante
AN ex-cop has removed spy bugs on wheelie bins and sent them back to the council.
Former chief inspector Martin Meeks said he and his neighbours were incensed at the microchips, which measure the waste thrown away.
The 62-year-old, of Winterbourne Monkton, Wilts, said: "If I had gone into someone's house as a police officer and planted a bug without approval, there would have been hell to pay."
Kennet District Council said it was illegal to tamper with the chips.
Go to Gaol, do not pass Go, do not tamper with the chips.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006400511,0
0 .htmlI know it's The Sun but it has been in other local papers too.
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Re:Proper Role of Blogs in a DemocracyIn short, blogs (like other forms of expression) play an important role in a democracy, but we should never use blogs as a final, reputable source on par with a story by actual journalists at "The Economist", the "Wall Street Journal", or the "New York Times".
I feel at this point, compelled to add that ScuttleMonkey neglected to add what I felt was the most important part of the submission. Namely, the following line, which was to be the last.Thank goodness we still have a real press to fall back on.
Or words to that effect. I felt that to be a counterpoint to any negativity stemming from there being "only" 5% of blogers considered journalists. We aren't getting very many Watergate's nowadays. -
The Mail on Sunday...
...is a really, really shit paper. Really shit. In some ways worse than The Sun, which Slashdot has in fact linked to in the past.
So pay no heed. When this appears in a respectable organ (no, Slashdot is not respectable), it might carry some weight. Until then...
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Re:Private Eye
Personally, I'd rather collect bladed weapons over stuff like this.
You weren't the dude who surrendered that bloody great bat'leth to the Police in the recent knife amnesty, were you?
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Re:Wait, whatever happened to MMR?
We do vaccinate against all of the usual suspects - MMR, TB, Tetinus etc.
However, thanks to Rupert Murdock's rag http://www.thesun.co.uk/ a large number of parents became afraid of the MMR jab, and thus let their children go without.
All of that flies in the face of the scientific evidence, and of the risks - i.e. your kids are at more risk from the diseases themselves than they are a reaction to the MMR vaccine. -
BUS DRIVERSSome prohibit teenagers, bus drivers and drivers with learning permits from using cell phones
Not as good as last month's story on the PSP-playing bus driver
"Steve Allcock was reported by terrified passengers who heard the screams
of characters being butchered" in Grand Theft Auto.The bus company sacked another driver the previous week for applying makeup.
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Re:Damn, pr0n in the title...
And before the internet, 75% of 9-19 year olds have seen print/film pornography. It's not like porn didn't exist before the internet. Oh, and they messing up the results including the 18 and 19 year olds, who are legally allowed to look at porn.
I live in the UK and I'm not sure there is a legal age for viewing porn. It's probably illegal to give porn to children under 16, and might even be illegal to give it to 16 and 17 year olds. But the age of consent in the UK is 16 so it would be a bit perverse to prevent them looking at pictures but allow them to see the real thing.
When I was in my early teens topless pictures of 16 year olds were an every day event in daily newspapers. Sam Fox http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_Fox is the one that I remember.
I think the law has now changed so that such images are now "child pornography". I'm not sure whether these legacy images are now illegal or not. Could be interesting - someone storing an old copy of the Sun http://www.thesun.co.uk/ for some reason could probably end up on the sex offenders register.
Lena (lenna) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna is probably the single most famous image in image processing. It's also from the Miss Novermber 1972 playboy centerfold.
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When will the English take back their country?Really, when will enough be enough? Or are there so many state "workers" voting to keep things as they are that you have no escape?
First they took your guns, and you sat in the pub and said it was for the good of the people.
Then they effectively took away your right to self-defense (they took away the means in step one), and you locked yourself in your bathrooms when the burglars break into your occupied house.
Then, they sent letter to the shopkeepers telling them not to bother reporting thefts of less than 75 pounds and not to detain thieves.
Linky:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006060516,0
0 .htmlYou have cameras installed in every orfice, officious busybodies poking noses into your every affair.
Your medical system is refusing treatment to patients who are over weight (gasp) or smoke (the horror) in order to save money. An un-assimilated population of immigrants is holding up signs saying "wait for the real holocaust"
What will it take to push you over the edge, the banning of cricket?
Wake up, it is already too late, and you better get cracking on fixing things.
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Dr Who Porn
You can also see the Daleks in porn movie "Abducted By The Daleks", I kid you not. The sun has the details. It's really quite good
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Re:These specs are indeed impressive...
They are tough, take this one for example who survived being caught by a bird and dropped down a chimney into a raging fire http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005600693,0
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Re:Pardon the obvious...
You're right - you can charge someone then a judge can deny bail and remand in custody - but that isn't germane to the point of the planned legislation.
Currently, to be charged there needs to be sufficient evidence in the hands of the Police that they can go to the Crown Prosecution Service who then decide whether it's going to Court or not.
Under the planned, and thankfully failed, legislation (and the amendment which sadly was passed - at least in the Commons, it's still got to get past the Lords), the Police can hold you WITHOUT charge and WITHOUT evidence.
It's an attempt to get a fishing licence. 'Your face looks funny so we'll throw you in a Remand cell and then go looking for a reason why'.
There's a word for what El Presidente Blair and Josif Vissionarovich Clarke are trying to to, and that word is Internment. It's been tried before on these shores, and proved to be a hugely fertile recruiting ground for militants.
The illusion that this is in any way similar to any form of proper Judicial process is one that El Presidente and his morons^Wminions^WMinisters have tried hard to produce - and, thankfully, failed. Unfortunately, they have managed to convince the tabloid-reading population. The Sun, that revered repository of unbiased information, yesterday referred to MPs who voted against the bill as 'Traitors'.
This was - and is - a blatant attack on civil liberties, using terrorism as the bogeyman the same way that Communism was used by McCarthy. A raghead under every bed?
So please - don't be fooled. This has nothing to do with charging someone then remanding them in custody, and EVERYTHING to do with moving towards creating political prisoners and internment. It's not the same, and it certainly isn't Justice. -
Re:Newspaper is killing the newspaper.You rarely see children reading newspapers. You probably won't see a McDonald's employee reading a paper, nor will you see a construction worker or a clothing salesperson.
Pardon? I can only assume you have not discovered "The Sun". It's a very British rag which almost always decides the result of a general election.... ...allegedly. -
Re:How About Avian Sex Partner?This dude's job was to collect the sperm from the male falcons. He'd go in to their enclosures wearing a special hat with a very-anatomically-correct model of a female falcon on it.
Ha! There was something like this in the news earlier this year.
My sister had a job for a while cleaning cages of lab animals. She didn't like it much.
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splogs clogs blogs shocker!
That is the most Sun-like headline I've ever seen on slashdot. For those of you who aren't in the know about crappy British tabloids, The Sun* is like the most popular paper in the country, and I think owned by Darth Murdoch himself. They quite helpfully have pictures on their main page of recent headlines (flash), hence the link.
*Health warning: please shield your eyes whilst loading the site. The sudden visual impact of the Sun's website can cause severe disorientation, epileptic fits, vomiting, and in some cases death. Not recommended for pregnant women or people with heart conditions -
Re:and cnn falls for it, too
This was a story by BILD, the world's largest tabloid newspaper.
I would have given that honorific title to the Sun, but well, that might be just me.
Let's look at some random titles from the front page: "Is Zeta Jones an air head?", "Ian Brown's saucy babes", "Sexpert reveals how to look great in the buff", "Wayne sent off after crazy taunt at ref".
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Re:Bild is s**t
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Re:Why so long
Does that "loser" pays policy work even if the loser is a defendent? I can understand if the loser is the plaintiff, but a defendent?
Potentially, yes. Any order to pay costs is at the court's discretion, and it's not even necessarily the theoretical loser who pays. For example, footballer Bruce Grobbelaar sued newspaper The Sun for libel after it claimed he had taken bribes to fix matches. (He did take the money, but it couldn't be proved that he was actually involved in any match-fixing.) After appealing all the way to the House of Lords, Grobbelaar won, but was awarded just £1 damages, and he was ordered to pay The Sun's costs. (See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2515889.stm)
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failure to protect the innocentYou are absolutely correct. There are those who are pro-life, and also against the death penalty (like most Catholic leaders), but are not in principle against the death penalty for the guilty. The prerequisite for just administration of the death penalty is that the innocent are protected. (In fact protection of the innocent is part of the purpose of the death penalty.) But we live in a culture of death where the courts sanction the brutal execution of over 1 million human lives every year, in the full and certain knowledge that every one of those lives was innocent of any crime. Statistics about black vs white executions pale in comparison with this vast holocaust (and are usually misused to draw invalid conclusions anyway).
How can those courts claim to be diligent and unbiased in their determination that the evidence of a crime points to the guilt of the accused beyond the shadow of a doubt, when those same courts sanction the execution of those never even accused of any crime. They have gone so far as to begin not just allowing but *ordering* the execution even of adults who have not even been accused. (And Terri Schiavo was not the first - just the first with national attention.)
The UK courts have now announced that any one who is "terminally ill" may be starved to death - a moniker that could be applied to every one of us, it is just a matter of how long.
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Re:All hail the rich
(that is unless they need someone to wipe their ass).
Hey, don't be so negative, Groom of the Stool is a quite high position, hierarchically. Shit still seems to flow downhill though. -
Re:Awkward
and now I have this image of the Queen rocking out in some sort of a shuffle-type fashion in my head
Don't imagine it, live it. -
IT'S headed to the UK...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2004580002-200
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Slashdot posts this...
But won't post a story on Chernobyl's mutant super-children?
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Re:Which they then set alight?
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Napalm?
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Slightly more information
From The Currant Bun and The BBC.
NB : Before you make any cheap cracks, the people involved are seriously injured. -
Re:Faster or Better?
Not to mention that he'll need the render farm for converting all 6 of the Star Wars films to 3-D.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2004580002-2005 220706,00.html
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Re:But this exists already...
Nearly exterminate? There are still more than a few news organisations with online presences:
Reuters
The Times
The Guardian (interesting... the content is free but if you want to read it in a paper format you can subscribe)
The Sun
The Mirror
ITN Sites, e.g. Channel 4 News
The Scotsman (a surprisingly large online presence)
The sites you mention: FT and Telegraph, it isn't surprising they charge as they have concentrated readerships with higher levels of disposable income, so why not go for a straightforward revenue model?
I have no doubt that the popularity of BBC news is for reasons consistent with the popularity of their television and radio news: high quality and impartial in a way commercially sponsored news could not be (commercial news also remains very popular: the total cross-media circulation of ITN, Times, Sun, etc is massive). -
Re:Metro
There was. http://www.angelfire.com/retro/minimetroland/ calls it 'Absolutely the greatest ever small hatchback built in the West Midlands to come out of the closing years of the second half of the 1970s'. An excellent summary. The editorial line of http://www.thesun.co.uk/ during the Falklands War was widely satirised as 'Kill an Argie and win a Mini Metro'.
The square steering wheel, though, was on that exemplar of the early 1970s British car industry, the Austin Allegro. A nice pic here http://www.74simon.co.uk/newallegro.html. -
Re:Make it "R" and maybe it can redeem the genre
Maybe have Tim Burton direct it......
What, you want a load of trained squirrels jumping around all over the place? I suppose it would be an improvement over Jar-Jar...