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Re:Believe anything
Weird stuff, didn't realize that NXIVM was the same thing that Nicki Clyne (from BSG) got involved with.
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Re:Globalist snake
The issue is that the GP selected a very disreputable source for their claims. If those claims were true then it would seem wise to select a source with a good reputation and history of accurate reporting.
Nothing in the GGP's quote from Wikipedia indicated that Rebel Media has a history of inaccurate reporting. Just because a source reports news that supports a political belief opposed to your own, does not make it inaccurate.
In the particular case, quoted by the GGGP, of a hoax hate crime involving the cutting of a Muslim girl's hijab, a few seconds of searching turns up corroborating stories from CTV news, the Toronto Sun, and CBC. None of them specifically make the link with the way several politicians condemned the crime (before it was revealed to be a hoax) and quietly ignored it afterwards: that is a particular editorial slant taken by Rebel Media. But it doesn't seem to be untrue, nor especially misleading.
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Re:When all is said and done...
Back in the BBS days, then Usenet, mailing lists and early forums I never got that kind of abuse.
I can quite remember back in the BBS days of this happening. I ran a fido:net node, and there were always people just unhinged and had to be blocked at the node level because of this shit and Usenet too. Early forums? Yep. You can still find instances of it back on the wayback machine.
These days threats of violence and doxing are often the first thing you get hit with. And I have been doxed and had stuff sent to my home, my wife's home, our email accounts flooded etc.
Yeah well, ask the political and radical left how much they enjoy it. Since they were the ones to popularize these methods back in the 80's and 90's. Everything from doxing someone's home because they ran a shelter, to a research worker having bombs sent to his home because he killed rabbits in the course of his research. The the more modern stuff of the 00's, with anti-MRA feminists and their ilk that pull fire alarms in buildings, call in the bomb threats and so on. Or with Gamergate, and all of the open-public events from restaurants, to meeting halls having bomb threats called into them. Or the more recent stuff, that's become a hallmark of the feminst left. If you committed the dangerous thing of "sexual allegations" which haven't been proven in court, law, HR, or anything else. Well? The mob will come and try to get you fired. Oh, but if the accuser is female? They'll just circle the wagons and hope it disappears.
All of that is designed to shut down free and open debate. It's censorship. Intimidation designed to silence views that the perpetrator does not like.
It sure is. Now you seem to be having a problem here. Your regular anti-speech stands seems to contradict your current open speech debates. Guess what? Tthe bullshit from campuses in Ontario has gotten so bad that the provincial government is stepping in and stating that universities MUST have a free speech policy, and can no longer restrict speakers by trying to land them with heavy security fees or other nonsense issues. Or you will loose funding. Then again this is the that Jordan Peterson were warning about universities in Canada 5 years ago. Groups like FIRE and CampusWatch have been doing the same in the US.
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Re:Ford is a wannabe Trump
Ultimately Ford is a fiscal conservative and leans social libertarian.
So what GP said: a Trumpette. "fiscal conservative and leans social libertarian" is an apt description of the basis of most Trump policies that could be compared to Ford (I mean, can't exactly compare's Trump's military policy and foreign policy to a provincial leader)
Or are you some kind of racist who thinks any mention to Trump is just a slur on the person's character and not his policies?
Safe injection sites don't help the poor, they hurt them, increase crime, and spill over into other neighborhoods.
I love how you accuse the other guy of spewing talking points, but these sound like talking points to me. Do you have any citations? A quick search landed me quite a few links saying the opposite.
https://www.themarshallproject...
https://torontosun.com/2016/07...
Ask BC how it's working out.
One of the first links from my searches: looks like they think it's great and wants to expand it
http://mynorthwest.com/869125/...And it's not just BC that's been doing it. Rest of the world has been experimenting and researching the results.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/j...
The Forbes article mentions that in absence of government action, private groups are trying safe injection sites themselves. Read: the idea isn't some from big bad government top down, there's a grass roots free market movement for it - so I think a social libertarian like Ford would approve.
But keep going and telling everyone how it's all Ford's fault, not McGuinty or Wynne.
I don't see GP blaming Ford for what happened (the past). He's saying what will happen under Ford (the future). I don't know if his accusation/prediction will be true, but I see no relevance in the rest of your post rambling about the past.
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Re:Yes, I would like to file a complaint . . .
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Re:For most people, retirement isnt possible.
The continual slide of wages vs inflation, the endless fun-ride of being 'obsoleted', being excluded through ageism, the effective death of the pension, and a bevy of other factors all align to basically ensure that nobody aside from people on the far upper end of middle class and the wealthy are able to retire.
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Who was it that said "Those jobs are never coming back."?
Well, yeah, they're not coming back when you allow trading partners to hammer your exports with 270% tariffs while you don't do shit about it:
It also means consumers in this country [Canada] pay inflated prices for milk, chicken, egg and cheese and poses an unfair and indefensible barrier to trade and competition – which would lower prices for consumers.
Trudeau is fan of farm quotas and tariffs, and told reporters this week that Trump’s tweets are “because I’ve told him many times: ‘No, he won’t touch, we won’t touch our supply management system.’ ”
The real reason Trudeau won’t touch the system because dismantling it would infuriate thousands of Canadian farmers and cost billions to set things right. In short, it’s a political headache.
Meanwhile, average Canadians have overpaid for decades to support price dairy price fixing [sic].
At least Trump is doing something about the unequal trade barriers the US faces.
"Oh, he might piss off the [fill in the blank]!" screams the pearl-clutching concern-trolling brigade of fools.
GOOD! IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME!!!!
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Re:Black Lives Matter
As a group no, but some of their members are pretty damned hateful.
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Re:Black Lives Matter
I think it's pretty hard to target the Black Lives Matter group because its not really a group as a whole, but a collective of smaller groups that have almost no connection other than they operate under the same banner. It's very similar to the group Anonymous in that there really isn't any central command and anyone at all can decide that they want to operate under the banner.
When you have a structure like that, it's really hard to treat them as a monolith. For example, one city's BLM decided to have a cookout with their local police to try to have a friendly dialog and voice their concerns. Even if you're generally against the movement as a whole, it's pretty hard to condemn trying to come together on good terms and build understanding. On the other hand it's hard to support the BLM member who has allegedly defrauded the University of Toronto for almost $300,000 dollars even if you generally support the movement as a whole.
In general, most things are a mixed bag, but typically you're dealing with an entity that is ultimately answerable to a single person or a small group of individuals so you can still form a cohesive opinion of the whole, but I don't know if that's really possible with BLM since it's completely decentralized. I suppose it's possible to argue that the "good" parts of BLM should rebrand or distance themselves from the "bad" parts, but as a brand BLM is attractive under the idea that there's no such thing as bad publicity. Even if you are one of those "good" parts of the movement, you can use the negative publicity as a foil to highlight the positive of your own particular subgroup within the movement. -
Re:Blame Canada
It's amazing how anything you say that doesn't toe the social media populism line is immediately considered alt-right, simply because you don't toe the line. I'm not a member of the "right", let alone the "alt-right". And of course you use this as an attempt to discredit me, but it's not going to work, asshole, so take your irrational ad-hominem bullshit elsewhere. But if you do want to debate this rationally, then stop using logical fallacies.
And yes, I'm pretty serious about this. It's probably not uniform across Canada, but go to Toronto and try making edgy jokes to the locals. Inevitably, they're going to avoid the subject. But if you meet with them in private, especially the local Iranians, they make jokes about homosexuals, jews, etc, all day long, as Iranians often do. But, they'll specifically tell you that you NEVER do this in a public place in Toronto.
Comedians notoriously have this exact same problem:
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Re:3500 degrees
A bit of digging found another article that lists the type of lamp used.
They're xenon short-arc lamps.
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Re: This is a wise move
You are just repeating over and over again that freedom of speech comes first. Why? Is it for you an absolute value, an end in itself? Then there is no discussion possible, and I'm just wasting my time trying to reason with you.
Re BLM: I'm not searching for it. I asked for a concrete example, it would be nice of you to provide the link.
Here's some. If you're interested there is more.
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2...
www.huffingtonpost.ca/.../black-lives-matter-toronto-yusra-khogali_b_14635896.html
http://www.torontosun.com/2017...
Why does Freedom of Speech come first?
What would it come after? Your feelings?
Should saying "Islam / Christianity is a barbaric, ridiculous religion" be against the law? No.
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Re:Who were the police protecting?
Easy the police were protecting the state. Just a reminder that this type of stuff has been going on in the UK for awhile, whether it be the police threatening people for daring to speak out against migrants, migrant terrorism or engaging in overt censorship over porn. It's not just the UK either, but other EU countries too. People who think the US is a "police state" have absolutely no clue, especially for those of us who live in countries where speech is restricted by law. Like in Canada, you know where you see shit like this. And the government launches a motion against "islamophibia" the opposition launches a completely neutral version, which is the defeated because it no longer contains the one and only protected religion aka islam.
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Re:State religion is wrong, but not evil
because it demonstrates a significant lack of appreciation for the text, spirit, or values enshrined in the Constitution
Overall, I find the lack of appreciation for same by the other party to be far more discontenting. It is the Democrats, who wish to:
- Illegalize "hate speech", contrary to the First Amendment;
- Illegalize weapons — from knives and brass knuckles to firearms, contrary to the Second Amendment;
- promote Affirmative Action — contrary to the Fourteenth Amendment;
- abolish Electoral College and otherwise diminish the role of the member-States in the Union;
But those threats to the Constitution do not worry you, only Christianity does?..
the survey you cited includes no evidence that American Muslims agree with Sharia Law
Seriously? Are you that dense? The article I linked to is called (emphasis mine) "Muslims and Islam: Key findings in the U.S. and around the world". What does it tell you, that, while it has Sharia-support figures for about 20 other countries — and even a graphic showing same — the figures for the US are omitted? Ok, maybe, my growing up in the USSR gave me the ability to read between the lines, that the blissfully naive Americans do not possess. Fine. Let's look for other sources:
According to the just-released survey of Muslims, a majority (51%) agreed that “Muslims in America should have the choice of being governed according to shariah.” When that question was put to the broader U.S. population, the overwhelming majority held that shariah should not displace the U.S. Constitution (86% to 2%).
and:
nearly a quarter of the Muslims polled believed that, “It is legitimate to use violence to punish those who give offense to Islam by, for example, portraying the prophet Mohammed.”
Now, these results are politically inconvenient to the still-prevailing dogma, so, as could be expected, the study is denounced (such as here) as "deeply flawed". But what better rebuttal could there be, than offering results of your own study contradicting those of the "flawed" one? And yet, none of the critics could cite their own numbers. Does that not tell you something?
a completely made up story
Once again, it is not "made up" at all — and certainly not completely made up. It is a real problem, and not just in the US (for which we, curiously, do not establishment-blessed figures at all), but also in Canada, UK, and Norway...
Quit denying it — makes you look stupid. You'll get better mileage out of arguing, "it is nothing to worry about" instead.
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Re:Ethics of banning a religion
So would you say that denying entry to people based on their religion is in line with American ideals?
I would say, it depends on the religion. One of the major aspects of Islam is Sharia and the (world-wide) Theocracy. Both directly contradict the US Constitution — holding any religion with such tenets is valid grounds for suspicion and extra scrutiny.
If people believed that then I would wonder why they would voluntarily move to a country that is not a Theocracy.
For its higher level of living — "it is the economy, stupid".
The percentage of Muslims preferring Sharia in the US is often-cited as 51%. The number for Canada is 60%, the U.K. — 40%. The problem is real...
If anyone expressing a sincere religious belief were denied entry, I think that our country would be better for it
Then you are a fool. Sadly, an alternative to religion is not the cheerful agnosticism, or the sophisticated atheism. Absent a coherent religion of some kind, the void is filled by dark superstitions (think "bad omens", witch-burning, and black cat-chasing), that are worse than even Islam.
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Re:It would never happen in the US
Ya-huh. The anti-vaxxers are usually granola munching morons, who are usually shit-scared of guns.
Sounds about right. I live in Ontario, Southwestern Ontario to be more exact. The county I currently live in? It's a heavily conservative area that's mostly farming. 89 students out of the entire ~13,000 students weren't vaccinated, this area has a single large school board that operates across 4 counties though(roughly 170k students total) and the numbers were also low. A place like Toronto? The numbers of anti-vaxxers are stupidly high, one high school had a 90% non-vaccinated rate. Wanna guess what type of neighborhood it was? If you said upper class then you'd win a cookie!
I'm very torn on the entire idea of the government forcing this though. On one hand, it's good to get rid of the stupid anti-vaxxer myths. On the other it's a very slippery slope to force through other "behavioral changes" that the government deems improper. Ontario is also the same province where you have educators that claim they're "co-parents." The liberal party has a very strong "do as we say, not as we do" mentality. Especially since they're involved in around 15 different scandals, ranging from fraud to destruction of documents to misuse of funds.
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Re:Okay... so what am I supposed to do about it?
Australia? British Columbia? Ontario for "green energy." As someone else mentioned, you can move a company from Ontario to Michigan and buy Ontario electricity cheaper then it's being sold for in the province.
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Re:As if...
Here's one.
sexual assault of child, indecency with child
Here's another.
Christopher Hambrook — who claimed to be a transgender woman named Jessica — has attacked four vulnerable females between the ages of five and 53 in Montreal and Toronto over the past 12 years.
Hambrook, 37, pleaded guilty in February 2013 to two counts of sexual assault and one count of criminal harassment involving two women — a deaf and homeless Quebec woman and a Toronto survivor of domestic violence — while he was living at a Dundas St. W. shelter and the Fred Victor women’s shelter in January and February 2012.
Maddison began hormone treatment while in prison, and was transferred to a women's prison (Mulawa Correctional Centre) in 1999. She underwent sex reassignment surgery while in prison in 2003. At Mulawa, it was alleged that Hall had sexual relations with several female prisoners, allegations that resulted in Hall being returned to a male prison after 3 months. Hall was charged with rape in relation to one incident, but the charge was dropped due to the victim having left the country upon being released from prison in fear of her safety.
Richard Masbruch brutally raped and tortured a Fresno woman in 1991. Today, in a case that may be the first of its kind, he lives in a women’s prison.
Masbruch, who was reclassified by prison officials as a woman after he castrated himself, is the focus of an inmate complaint that says Masbruch is a danger to other prisoners at the Central California Women’s Facility in Chowchilla. (Fresno Bee)
A JURY has been told a woman alleged to have been raped by a transgender man was found with 49 separate injuries.
Nadine Williams, also known as Dean, 39, is on trial at Swansea Crown Court after denying one count of rape and two of assault by penetration.
I can keep going if you would like.
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Re:This is a solution looking for a problem.
But right now a drone is going to give someone a bad cut or maybe take out an eye.
Here are some much worse things done by remote controlled aircraft.
Kill someone
Interfered with fire fighting
Interfered with police
Invasion of privacyAs for drones interfering with flight operations, have you ever met a goose? If you are a pilot and your choices are to hit a goose or to hit a drone pretty much every pilot will chose the drone.
How many geese to you know that carry a lithium battery that can explode under the right circumstances? Geese are not within human control but drones are. We do what we can.
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Re:Yes? And?
You've got this wrong, including that nonsense about "systematically disappearing people." This isn't a question of some South American Junta oppressing poor peasants. It is a war against the barbarians of our age.
Guerrilla tactics were known when the treaties were drawn up so your comment about uniforms is nonsense. It takes very little to comply with the treaty. Armbands, a chain of command, and waging war lawfully is about what it takes. You're claiming that is too much? Nonsense. Tell me, what forces ISIS to behead people or burn them alive? Do you think that it is too much to expect them to not commit atrocities? That isn't a theoretical question, the issue is one played out daily by those barbarians.
Isis sex slaves: 19 women executed for refusing to have sex with militant fighters
ISIS burns 4 hog-tied men alive in new video
ISIS Declares War On ‘The Cross’: 21 Christians Beheaded in Barbaric New Video from the Islamic StateGuantanamo isn't a secret prison, it is well known. The prisoners even receive Red Cross visits. But if the enemy combatants want the full rights and protections of the treaty then they need to abide by it. That is a basic enforcement mechanism built into it. Maybe they could start small, like simply not burning people alive and behead them. They could work their way up to no mass rape and sex slavery.
Far too many people here are outraged when a terrorist leader is killed by a missile as if it were an epic crime of the ages to prevent those evil men from attacking innocent civilians. But those same people who are outraged about terrorists being killed are often wholly indifferent to mass rape, murder, and torture of captives, hostages, and innocents by al Qaeda, ISIS, and the like. How do you think that will go? How do you think it will go now that more and more of them are showing up in Europe? Once the "oxen being gored" are European I expect some "rapid evolution" of views.
Do you know what ISIS is considering doing to captured pilots? (You know they burned one alive, right?) It is an old practice of the Turkish Caliphate, the Ottoman Empire: death by impaling.
They'll probably put video of it on Youtube.
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Re:Deliverance?
Why is this an either/or situation? Has the shooter never heard of the legendary Criminally Paedophilic ISIS Terrorist?
You think you're being funny, but there are actually a lot of those.
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Re:Why not run with it?
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Re:Ironically
"And what do you do about the sort of person who thinks they want to die but decided that irrationally and you expect would change their minds between jumping off a building and hitting the floor?"
If the doctors believe that the person is acting irrationally and they expect the person would change their mind, it just isn't going to happen. That's the whole point of having mandatory safeguards.
"Also, given that for most suicide "attempts" the objective is to get people's attention rather than to die"
[citation needed]
I'm pretty sure that Robin Williams would have disagreed with you. Michael Landsberg certainly does.
Like Landsberg said in one interview: "You're in a meeting and you look at your watch and say 'Sorry, I've got an appointment with my dentist.' No problem. But when you say "Sorry, I've got an appointment with my psychiatrist'
... " Look at how many people say "Gee, I never suspected they were having problems" because of the stigma of mental illness.So maybe some people are trying to get attention. Maybe that's their way of saying "Why won't someone help me?" But there's nothing selfish about suicide.
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Re:Punish those that do not readily condemn?!?!Syria
Born in Montreal, he later lived in Calgary and Vancouver, then went to Ottawa on Oct. 2 to deal with an issue regarding his passport application, Paulson said. Police believe he was hoping to travel to Syria from Ottawa.
Same as the Quebec terrorist:
The Quebec man accused of running down two soldiers, killing one of them, had already had his passport revoked for trying to go to Syria.
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Re:They WILL FIght Back
It is also important to mention that the years of government ignoring Ontario's strength in uranium, hydro and coal resources in favour of Ontario's relatively weak wind resource has resulted in electricity costs rising. The Ontario government's own plan projects a 42% increase in home electric bills from 2013 to 2018 and further to 68% increase by 2032.
In addition, Ontario contracted itself into buying the most expensive, wind-generated electricity first, pays other contracted generators to NOT GENERATE electricity in times of excess supply and sells surplus power to neighbouring jurisdictions at a loss.
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Re:They WILL FIght Back
It is also important to mention that the years of government ignoring Ontario's strength in uranium, hydro and coal resources in favour of Ontario's relatively weak wind resource has resulted in electricity costs rising. The Ontario government's own plan projects a 42% increase in home electric bills from 2013 to 2018 and further to 68% increase by 2032.
In addition, Ontario contracted itself into buying the most expensive, wind-generated electricity first, pays other contracted generators to NOT GENERATE electricity in times of excess supply and sells surplus power to neighbouring jurisdictions at a loss.
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Re:the totalitarian synergy
Well first, since you seem to think I'm lying (fair enough, taunting me though is a bit over the line, but then you're an AC...):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...
http://www.torontosun.com/2013...When you're considered the sole liberator of a Dutch town and you hold a hill against 14,000 enemies for days, plus other heroics; I'd say that fairly qualifies as bad ass. I'll admit, I'm having trouble finding the sneaker bit, but I remember reading it somewhere.
As for inferior weapons, sorry that's a myth. The Chinese had AK-47s (the most advanced assault rifle at the time) and the brand new MiG-15 which was one of the most advanced fighter aircraft at the time. The North Koreans (and I'd assume Chinese since they were supplying them) also had T-34 tanks, which were circa 1940 tanks. The Korean war, saw some of the USSR's newest weapons brought to bear.
As for "kill ratio" let's break down the numbers, using the link YOU provided.
Total Strength: 972,214 (UN) vs 1,642,600 (China/N Korea); majority of forces were South Korean (602,902) and Chinese (1,350,000).
Casualties: 178,426 dead to anywhere between 367,283-750,282
The UN had half to 2/3s the forces that the Chinese had; yet the Chinese had double to quadruple the casualties. I'm sorry, but that's not doing very well.
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Re:Funny, however..
NEW YORK - The online streaming service Grooveshark suffered a legal defeat on Monday when a U.S. judge found its operators liable to nine record companies for having directed employees to upload thousands of copyrighted songs without permission.
The judge held Grooveshark's parent company, Escape Media Group Inc, and its founders Samuel Tarantino and Joshua Greenberg, responsible for the illegal uploads of 5,977 songs by musicians such as Eminem, Green Day, Jay-Z and Madonna.
Griesa ordered both sides to propose within 21 days a permanent injunction to hold further infringements.
With offices in Gainesville, Florida, Grooveshark describes itself on its website as "one of the largest on-demand music services on the Internet," with more than 30 million users sharing in excess of 15 million files.
I doubt Eminem, Green Day, Jay-Z and Madonna gave them permission to freely distribute their music. You can follow the link to read the rest, or just google for other stories.
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Re:Fuck Tiles!
Just pointing something out
...I've seen people complain that Microsoft doesn't innovate, doesn't try new things.
And I've now seen people excoriate MS for trying new things and trying to innovate.
And, FWIW, some some aspects of Metro have been popping up elsewhere -- I don't think Metro has been an unmitigated disaster. At the venerable NYT, http://nyt.com/ useful bits can "slide in" from the margins when you move the mouse over to the left side of the window. Tiles are the lingua franca of The Toronto Sun, http://torontosun.com/ .
MS, however, did screw up some things. Well
... a lot of things with Metro for the desktop.First, it's a UI designed for media consumption (and single- and double-tasking) -- that ship has sailed. Phones, tablets, and, to a lesser extent, notebooks (and, in my house, the WiiU) are for media consumption. Desktops are for productivity.
Second, Metro is actually pretty decent when you figure out how the keyboard shortcuts (win-key +s for searching, alt-tab to switch windows, alt-f4 to shut a window, etc.). But it's pretty awful if you go at it with a mouse -- and MS did not, at all, make this clear.
Third, the Start button thing is
... almost, but not quite, a red herring. If you're looking for a program that's two or three menus deep, good luck to you. It is usually faster (if you're a decent typist, at least) to hit the win key and type the name of the program. If it's a program you use frequently, it should probably be pinned to the taskbar. I've watched my kids on the Win8.x desktop -- the only time they bother with the Start button is when they log out. I think the problem here is that we've had nearly two decades of living with Start and it's proving to be a tough habit to break ...Fourth, and probably worst of all, MS foisted Metro and its apps on users in situations where it shouldn't have. If you were writing up an email in Outlook (desktop program) and wanted to open the calculator to check your math, it defaulted to a Metro, full-screen, four function calculator. That's stupid. MS has two built-in picture viewers, both relatively equivalent. But, using the default programs app, the Metro app can be set as the default app for several times more file types than the desktop app
... even though the desktop app can open those files and be set as the default viewer through Explorer. That's bad. And some OS settings can only be set through Metro -- and that's inexcusable since Metro is not supposed to be for "power users". And there are lots of other goofy places where the Metro app is the default choice, even when launched through the desktop. -
Re:Seriously, an iphone?
The NSA and GCHQ have always wanted more info on China.
Isn't turnabout is fair play?.
But according to analysts and officials, the communist-controlled People’s Republic of China operates the single largest intelligence-gathering apparatus in the world—and its growing appetite for secrets has apparently become insatiable.
From economic and military espionage to keeping tabs on exiled dissidents, China’s global spying operations are rapidly expanding. And, therefore, so is the threat. Some analysts even argue the regime—which is also gobbling up such key natural resources as farmland, energy, and minerals—has an eye on dominating the world.
Estimates on the number of spies and agents employed by the communist state vary widely. According to public statements by French author and investigative journalist Roger Faligot, who has written several books about the regime’s security services, there are around two million Chinese working directly or indirectly for China’s intelligence apparatus.
Other analysts say it would be impossible to count the exact number. ‘I doubt they know themselves,’ says Richard Fisher, a senior fellow on Asian military affairs at the Washington-based International Assessment and Strategy Center. Regardless, the number is undoubtedly extraordinary. ‘China can rightly claim to have the world’s largest, most amorphous, but also most active intelligence sector,’ he says.
Russia, China engaging in industrial espionage
Germany is full of Russian and Chinese spies working to get information about top business and technology developments, according to the country’s domestic intelligence service.
Studies show that the German economy loses around €50 billion a year as a consequence, Burkhard Even, head of the counterintelligence section of the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution, told the audience at a recent security forum in Bonn. . . .
There are around 80,000 Chinese people living in Germany, Even said, many of whom are commercial spies. China is also buying into, or taking over companies completely, in order to get access to new technological developments. . . . . . the Chinese were mostly active in the electronic sector. Some reports suggest the Chinese intelligence services have up to a million agents across the world collecting technical and business data to support their industries.
"It is estimated that at least 20 Foreign intelligence services are operating to some degree against UK interests. Of greatest concern are the Russians and Chinese. The number of Russian intelligence officers in London has not fallen since the Soviet times."
Britain Warned Businesses of Threat of Chinese Spying
Canada a target-rich environment for Chinese spies
Officials say Chinese spies have targeted every sector of the U.S. economy
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Re:Seems simple to me
Can't we privately send him to Mars with a 3D printer? He'll do fine over there and he'll be in a new paradise far away from decaying Earth.
Is going to Mars such a horrible thing? 200,000 people have signed up for a possible trip to Mars
In my case, you just answered your own question, sir.
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Re:Seems simple to me
Can't we privately send him to Mars with a 3D printer? He'll do fine over there and he'll be in a new paradise far away from decaying Earth.
Is going to Mars such a horrible thing? 200,000 people have signed up for a possible trip to Mars, why put Snowden at the head of the line?
First of all Mars is in the United States. He can't go there. Second, the population is nowhere near 200K. It's probably closer to 2,000.
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Re:Seems simple to me
Can't we privately send him to Mars with a 3D printer? He'll do fine over there and he'll be in a new paradise far away from decaying Earth.
Is going to Mars such a horrible thing? 200,000 people have signed up for a possible trip to Mars, why put Snowden at the head of the line?
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Google Glass used for porn?
The web will probably be flooded with home videos.
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Both sides are spending lots of money...
Indian Chief paid $55,000 to attend anti-oil rally.
Synopsis: The Tides Foundation paid $55,000 to a Ltd Corporation that has is owned by another corporation that has changed its name twice in the past four years. The Indian chief is a director of the holding corporation. Tides made 25 different payments to anti-oil sands activists in a single year.
There's nothing wrong with paying money to support a cause you believe in but it's damn fishy when the money is flowing through corporations that are held by other corporations which keep changing their names. It indicates an attempt to hide who is actually receiving the money and how much money is flowing to said individuals.
The Saudis and Russians have a vested interest in stopping oil development in North America so it wouldn't be at all surprising to see them funding anti-oil activists.
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Re:Sweden too
I suppose like many things in life it will remain a mystery.
Russia Simulated A Large-Scale Aerial Night Attack On Sweden
Canadian jets repel Russian bombersCanadian navy officer sentenced to 20 years for being Russian spy
Canadian Police Arrest Man on Trying to Spy for ChinaBombs from thwarted B.C. terror plot planted among crowd of 40,000 Canada Day revelers
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Re:That's why you should use wired networks
> If those damned telephone poles would quit getting drunk and
> jumping into the middle of the road, it wouldn't be a problem.You mean like so?
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Re:Old Married people?
Yup. Under the current administration, Canada is in some ways worse than the States with respect to domestic policy – it's just that the world is emphatically not watching, because – hey – it's Canada. Who cares?
Environmental charities are officially enemies of the state, budget watchdogs have to file freedom of information requests with their own money to get the information their mandates require, environmental protection and first nations rights have been gutted at the documented request of petroleum lobbies, it is now illegal to cover your face at a protest, activism of any kind is being branded as terrorism, and tens of millions of dollars are spent on blatant openly-reviled propaganda, while poverty is a growing problem.
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Re:SHOTGUN!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8570506/Police-covered-up-violent-campaign-to-turn-London-area-Islamic.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1374443/Police-hid-abuse-60-girls-Asian-takeaway-workers-linked-Charlene-Downes-murder.html
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/muslim-paedophile-gangs-have-been-operating-%E2%80%9Cdecades%E2%80%9D-admits-former-police-chief
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/14/iran-gay-men-executed-hanging_n_1515207.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/07/iran-executes-men-homosexuality-charges
http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/11/27/gay-holocaust-in-iran-4000-killed-and-counting/
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/03/26/disgust-over-muslim-wife-beating-book
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2012/03/23/19543371.html
https://www.google.ca/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=police+in+UK+scared+of+muslims&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&redir_esc=&ei=PpFhUd0HwpaIAojLgagO#hl=en&gs_rn=8&gs_ri=psy-ab&tok=YRHZtAg-ihnWR_44H-nTgw&pq=muslim%20wife%20beating%20canada&cp=11&gs_id=9oj&xhr=t&q=islam+acid+attacks&es_nrs=true&pf=p&client=ubuntu&hs=AVY&channel=fs&sclient=psy-ab&oq=islam+acid+&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.44770516,d.cGE&fp=d05afac0920070b6&biw=1390&bih=672r
I could post links for you all day but it would be pointless you love Islam because it lets you be a terrorist and get away with it because people are to scared to stand up to terrorists of the false prophet Muhammad. Your above post is exactly what your Muhammad stands for, way to represent he must be proud. -
Re:Donglegate? Really?
hopefully you have ample examples of men receiving death threats
Sure. Here are a few that come up on Google:
This guy pissed off some animal rights activists and they threatened to use pliers on his testicles, disembowel him and use napalm on him. Among other things. Incidentally, it was a woman who ran the organization that sent the threats, and was sentenced to jail for it. That one isn't even anonymous!
Gay blogger gets death threats.
This guy tracked down the sender of his death threats.
Here's a story about a guy who sends death threats to people who debunk the paranormal. Some blog authors, mostly male, were targeted.
Here's a guy who pissed off 4chan by making a movie. Here's one who wrote a book. If you want to do an experiment go post something they find offensive there and see how many death/rape/mutilation threats you get.
A Slashdot story about a guy getting death threats from some scammers he exposed.
Browsing Slashdot at -1 can be pretty enlightening too.
If you want to really get some threats, piss off some religious people.
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Re:What are they needed for?
canada is a defrosting steak. As the poles melt it looks juicier to other countries, and the flies are already circling, and others have already landed and staked a claim. And some USAians already call it the 51st state.
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Re:Cool story
You don't actually follow news, do you?
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/11/13/canada-will-burn--fk-the-troops -
Re:Eat popcorn!
Well, he can always start eating lots of microwave popcorn and try it that way. $7.2 million isn't bad, is it?
"Popcorn lung" makes it sound funny; but that one is actually a pretty ugly story(at least for the production workers and some of the QA guys at the plants, this guy must have really been a big fan to inhale that much). Let's just say that "constrictive bronchiolitis obliterans" is almost as much fun as it sounds like it would be. A much rarer disease; but the macro-scale symptoms are pretty similar to emphysema.
The matter first came to broader attention when NIOSH looked into a cluster of occurrences of this(usually quite uncommon) condition at a microwave popcorn plant. As it turns out, diacetyl, the usual artificial butter flavoring component, causes a delightful progressive, irreversible, destruction of lung capacity(pretty much what 'bronchiolitis obliterans' sounds like it does, it does.) The most severe cases require permanent supplemental oxygen or lung transplants to survive. Less severe cases experience ongoing shortness of breath and respiratory difficulties(whether only under exertion, or even when idle depends on the severity of the case).
As usual with these cases, the story of the discovery is littered with OSHA dragging its feet, popcorn producers skipping cheap protective measures like extractor fans to keep exposure down(25k to install fans, or slow death for the workers in the mixing room... Hmm, which is better for shareholder value?), and similar depressing anecdotes. Since consumer exposure is much, much lower than flavor-mixing exposure, the FDA has twiddled its thumbs about any questions of reconsidering the present regulatory status of 'safe' give to diacetyl as a food ingredient; but some are a bit concerned...
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Eat popcorn!
Well, he can always start eating lots of microwave popcorn and try it that way. $7.2 million isn't bad, is it?
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Re:i hope never
As a pilot, I really really really hope this never happens! Most people are BARELY able to keep in control of their vehicles in 2D, and are entirely unsuited for 3D. Keep them away from the skies, so that those of us who passed the difficult tests and demonstrated our ability to handle an aircraft safely can continue to be safe and remain not in danger of idiots cutting us off, not following rules, etc...
Yet the difficult tests and demonstrated ability to handle an aircraft safely doesn't stop one from cell phones and texting while flying: http://www.torontosun.com/2012/08/14/plane-crash-caused-by-cellphone-report
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Instead of a "Virtual Pipeline"...
Why not build an actual pipeline from the middle of the country to the Gulf region, where the refineries are?
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William Shatner and the TSA
Just read This story from Fark. FFS America....
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Re:2041-2060
Here's a prediction of human reactions to Lovelock’s interview:
1) Attack his age. "Oh, he's an old doddering fool! He's lost his mind!"
2) Call him irrelevant because he's not publishing. "How can he know anything about climate science? He hasn't published a paper for so long!"
3) Attack the media source. "This paper is in the pocket of big oil!"
4) Attack using a straw man. "Oh, but the ice is thinning in Greenland! This proves everything I say and proves you wrong!"
What you won't hear, and what makes this more religion than science as Lovelock says, is an argument against Lovelock's actual critiques of the state of climate science. It's because his points are too logical and irrefutable, so rather than try and engage in that uphill battle they will change the question posed and make up their own questions to answer. Its something along the lines of cognitive dissonance but worse. -
Re:2041-2060
Hurr! You're FUNNY!!
This global warming stuff is baloney! It was COLD during winter!!
Glad you're learning:
The godfather of global warming lowers the boom on climate change hysteria
Two months ago, James Lovelock, the godfather of global warming, gave a startling interview to msnbc.com in which he acknowledged he had been unduly “alarmist” about climate change.
The implications were extraordinary.
Lovelock is a world-renowned scientist and environmentalist whose Gaia theory — that the Earth operates as a single, living organism — has had a profound impact on the development of global warming theory.
Unlike many “environmentalists,” who have degrees in political science, Lovelock, until his recent retirement at age 92, was a much-honoured working scientist and academic.
His inventions have been used by NASA, among many other scientific organizations.
Lovelock’s invention of the electron capture detector in 1957 first enabled scientists to measure CFCs (chlorofluorocarbons) and other pollutants in the atmosphere, leading, in many ways, to the birth of the modern environmental movement.
Having observed that global temperatures since the turn of the millennium have not gone up in the way computer-based climate models predicted, Lovelock acknowledged, “the problem is we don’t know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago.” Now, Lovelock has given a follow-up interview to the UK’s Guardian newspaper in which he delivers more bombshells sure to anger the global green movement, which for years worshipped his Gaia theory and apocalyptic predictions that billions would die from man-made climate change by the end of this century.
Lovelock still believes anthropogenic global warming is occurring and that mankind must lower its greenhouse gas emissions, but says it’s now clear the doomsday predictions, including his own (and Al Gore’s) were incorrect.
He responds to attacks on his revised views by noting that, unlike many climate scientists who fear a loss of government funding if they admit error, as a freelance scientist, he’s never been afraid to revise his theories in the face of new evidence. Indeed, that’s how science advances.
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Re:Unfair
Awww, apparently I hurt somebody's feelings! I'd apologize, but then, I'm not sorry. I stand by my original statements: the police didn't arrest him for no reason, these were NOT trumped up charges, this man was NOT railroaded into jail because police wanted an arrest. This was a case of a man deliberately setting out to probe the efficacy of security for the G-20 summit by purchasing chemicals used in bomb making, again - *in an attempt to prove that the security for the G-20 summit was ineffective.* In essence, he was betting that security wouldn't take notice of his activities... and he lost his bet.
Mr. Sonne went out of his way to purchase specific chemicals that are integral components in bomb-making. He went out of his way to express his intentions to "test security" at the G-20 summit. Security took notice of those activities (which he apparently assumed they wouldn't), and they responded as if he posed a threat to bomb the G-20 summit (which was exactly what he tried to make it look like he was thinking of doing). Those chemicals were purchased in sufficient quantities that, if combined, could have created several kilos worth of explosive material (as testified by an explosives expert during the case).
And technically, I'm just one person - I wouldn't be laughed at "like a bunch of Keystone Kops" - I'd be laughed at "like a Keystone Kop." But I'm glad something I wrote here was memorable enough that you're this incensed about it 2 years later. You stay beautiful, and let's do this again in 2014, okay?
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Re:more and more