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From Torrentfreak: "Neither has it been shown that Fredrik made any money from the site argued Nilsson. There was some advertising revenue generated by the site, he said, but this went to cover the site's operating costs."

The court doesn't hand out fines that can't be paid back - it's not in the court's interest.

Considering the $3.5m fine, were the founders perhaps not telling the whole truth about how much money they made from the site?

Actually the odd thing about Pirate Bay is that you can find most torrents with Google too. So why doesn't the RIAA sue them?

http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-trial-day-8-090225/
"Kennedy was asked why they haven't sued Google the same way as TPB. He said that Google said they would partner IFPI in fighting piracy and he has a team of 10 people working with Google every day, and if Google hadn't announced they were a partner, IFPI would have sued them too."

Kennedy is the CEO of the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry. So if the Pirate Bay had announced they would 'partner' with the IFPI and have ten people making a best effort to remove links to pirated content everything would have been ok, even if like Google their database still had pirated material. Which makes you wonder if their 'legal threats' page was such a good idea.

> We use the much more trusted MediaDefender these days."?

Trusted? Do you guys not remember MediaDefender-Defenders and the leaked email? As I recall, they were even branching out into partnerships with the government to go after kiddie porn.

Also, it was interesting to read the emails where the MD guys talked about the bestiality porno they had and whatnot.

If they really want THAT to come up in court, well, maybe they should get Jack Thompson as their lawyer. Not that he is a lawyer any more, but...

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> We use the much more trusted MediaDefender these days."?

Trusted? Do you guys not remember MediaDefender-Defenders and the leaked email? As I recall, they were even branching out into partnerships with the government to go after kiddie porn.

Also, it was interesting to read the emails where the MD guys talked about the bestiality porno they had and whatnot.

If they really want THAT to come up in court, well, maybe they should get Jack Thompson as their lawyer. Not that he is a lawyer any more, but...

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It works simply: The Pirate Bay site now includes links under torrents to âoeShare on Facebookâ. Once posted to your profile, your Facebook friends can click the link on Facebook to begin the download right away, provided they already have a torrenting client installed.

wtf am I missing? So, I used the Ubuntu example given by TorrentFreak (linked in the mashable article) and hit their Share on Facebook button. It posted to my FB profile as expected, but when I hit the link in my profile, it didn't start the download, it took me to the Pirate Bay page for the Ubuntu torrent. I have mutorrent installed... Is it just me? Maybe I need to tweek something to make the magic happen? Am I waiting for another FB redesign to go active? Or is the article completely wrong about this behavior, and then who really gives a fuck because I could have shared this on FB already through the Share on FB button I already have on my browser toolbar? (iow, this ain't news: Pirate Bay adding a link to a web page, whoopdeefuckingdoo).

WB: strike one?

SONY: strike one?

FOX: strike one?

VIACOM: strike one?

DISNEY: strike one?

MPAA: strike one?

(let's not forget politicians)

SEN ORIN HATCH: strike one?

There was an interesting article on TorrentFreak a while back; How Piracy Can Boost iPhone App Sales, may be worth a read.

Jeez, does anyone ever check their sources? MSNBC of all things? You know what the MS stands for do you?

Other than that:

There was not ONE server with 65TB but a "ring" of servers with "suspected" 65TB overall data. Police took down exactly one single server. All the other servers were shut down by the people running them so they could not be traced further.

[ENG] http://torrentfreak.com/large-pirate-topsite-raided-in-sweden-090306/
[SWE] http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article4582094.ab
[ENG] http://www.thelocal.se/18050/20090306/
Just the fact that they dub that "the biggest raid ever" is such a hilarious demonstration of how much they don't know.

"Ponten said the server ring had collapsed as a direct result of the raid." hahahaha
Did you mean, was redirected and pulled out of your sight? And even if it "collapsed" these are Gigabit sites, backup is easy and there is, well let me understate, definitely more than one of these.

According to the related article on TorrentFreak the server was a topsite used by numerous scene groups and Peter Sunde (aka Brokep of the The Pirate Bay) has said that "it is possible that it's a major source" for The Pirate Bay.

From the TorrentFreak article:

Althin said that just because Peter knows the other defendants, it does not follow that he committed any crime and just because he gave some advice as to the running of the site, the same stands. "If I call Saab [motor company] and tell them to paint their cars green so they sell more, I have no responsibility for Saab," he said.

Two car analogies in the same day, yay! :)

You mean like this or this?

well, these guys are trying it; http://torrentfreak.com/avoid-downloading-fake-torrents-and-spam-with-vertor-081228/

essentially they're downloading and checking every torrent on their tracker for fakes and drm riddled crap. I don't think it's such a stretch from your proposal.

Yeah honestly, movie ticket prices in Australia are now ridiculous. I used to go to the movies a lot. Maybe 15-20 times a year. This was only 5 years ago or so when an adult ticket was $10 AUD and student tickets were only $8 or so.

In the space of just a few years, they've almost doubled in price. Hoyts charges $17 for an adult now. That's wayyy more than normal price increases related to inflation. Not to mention the food and drinks are still just as hideously overpriced as they always were. So they've almost completely lost me as a customer. I think I went to the movies only twice last year and only once so far this year.

The statement 'Bittorrent isn't an option' is wrong though.

Firstly, Australia actually has the highest per-capita usage of Bittorrent in the world.* This is mostly because we don't get all the decent US/UK shows until a year or more later, and Hulu etc. doesn't allow non-US IPs to connect.

Secondly, yes our internet is metered as you say, but your figures are massively exaggerated. 15 GB for 90 bucks? Only Bigpond would charge such ridiculous rates and noone with half a brain uses them. There are plenty of plans out there offering 100-200 GB for less than AUD ~70 per month. Which really, is heaps of data (considering a TV show compressed using Xvid or H.264 is like 200-300 MB for SD or 600-700 MB for HD, you could download half a dozen TV shows every day of the month). For instance, check out: http://www.tpg.com.au/products_services/adsl2plus_pricing.php

So yeah - Bittorrent is definitely an option in Aus, and EVERYONE uses it.

* Source: http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-most-popular-in-australia/

They tried that already, by trying to buy a small island (tried twice actually), and starting their own country. Neither attempts succeeded.

I'm by no means up-to-date on the laws of all ~260 countries or whatever, but I don't think there is anywhere that is entirely "safe", there may be a few where it is legal, or at least not illegal to do what they do, but that same country probably wouldn't be the best place to do their business for other reasons (mobs, poor internet, low food, weather, etc), or is easily influenced by anyone with money, status, popularity negating any "safeness" there may be.

I'm Canadian, and we have some of the laxest laws regarding P2P:
File sharing legal in Canada
Canadian Police Tolerates Piracy For Personal Use

And Torrent sites such as IsoHunt, moving to Canada... however, on the contrary:
Court in Canada Shuts Down Torrent Site

And it seems to be leaning more and more in that (downward) direction, so what may be "safe" now, may not be in 6 months.

Personally, I have zero problem with TPB, MiniNova, Demonoid, or any of the rest... they are by far the wrong targets to be going after, you may as well go after Google, Yahoo, or even Microsoft (Windows XP Torrent) as they all contain links to torrents to copyright/illegal torrents as well, and much like Torrent servers, they do not contain the actual files, but just the torrent, which is basically a glorified network file shortcut, and although I hate to say it, targetting Axxo, FXG, etc would make more sense, but still far from proper sense.

Fix the pricing, and "artistic/personal use" limitations, and everyone would pretty much get along fine, even though there will always be "illegal" torrents/files on the interent, no matter how many ways you try and stop them.

Oh FFS, not those bloody clowns again...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/27/canada_rocker/
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/14/prince_b3ta_dmca/
http://torrentfreak.com/village-people-hire-web-sheriff-080215/
http://stereogum.com/archives/web-sheriff-to-mp3-bloggers-happy-easter-thanks-fo_008539.html
etc.
etc.

But I've figured out a way to defeat them: someone should take Bob Marley's lyrics literally.

It would also be a helluva lot more successful if we could eliminate most of piracy.

Yes it would, but is it the most efficient business model? I don't know, but unless people try other models we'll never know. Oh hey look, people are and they are being successful, and their business models don't rely on checking or curbing piracy, which means they don't have to resort to more expensive litigation and DRM and "educational campaigns" that add to their costs but contribute nothing to their revenues.

I can also say that if we condone piracy, then we have a lot to lose.

Not so, if the business models moved to not only allow but perhaps even encourage piracy then we lose nothing and gain a lot. And that "would make distribution easier, benefiting publishers, the artists working for them, and especially, indie artists who can't survive piracy sapping their few profits." So I guess it does come down to business model issues. There are people out there right now experiment and changing their business models with great success to where they don't care if their stuff gets pirated and some even want their stuff on bittorrent.

Proving what? That pirates buy media?

Again you are missing the point on the piracy buying media thing. Did you read any of those articles? They don't say pirates buy media, they say pirates buy more media than the average media buyer. It might be because of guilt. It might be because they like to support those that create stuff they like. It might be that they pirate because they really like media more than others and thus of course are going to be spending more on that media. Does it matter why they do it? Perhaps, but as of right now, they buy more on average than non-pirates.

Also, it doesn't show guilt is in play. None of those studies showed that was the reason. They only reported on the findings that pirates buy more on average, not the reasons why. You are jumping to that conclusion and so the rest of that paragraph is useless conjecture at this point. I will venture a useless guess as well and say that people pirate because they love music/movies/games and because they love it they buy it, and because they've bought so much they can't afford to buy more, so by pirating they didn't cost any one a sale since they weren't going to buy it anyway. In short, they pirate because they bought so much they couldn't afford any more.

As a final note, I'd like to add that since your first comment in this thread you have not provided one source or link to back up anything you've said. On the other hand, I have given over a dozen links various websites, articles, studies, blog posts, artist forums, etc that backup my claims. I'll

More proof that politicians pass laws to please their political donors and lobbyists, without understanding their implications. These infringement notices have been shown to be unreliable and easily spoofed.

http://dmca.cs.washington.edu/
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080605-study-paints-grim-picture-of-automated-dmca-notice-accuracy.html
http://torrentfreak.com/study-reveals-reckless-anti-piracy-antics-080605/
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/05/the-inexact-science-behind-dmca-takedown-notices/

So now any New Zealander can have their internet connection cut if anyone knows their IP address: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/95089

So today's Political Enemy of the Internet Award goes to New Zealand's Judith Tizard, who joins Australia's Stephen Conroy and Britains Andy Burnham. I could handle it when all politicians did was rort the system, but this is getting really annoying. I don't recall voting for any of this stuff, and I'll put them last on the ballot next time.

Ah yes. Buckcherry. Someone linked to it above.

Though for different reasons, this was tried before.

MediaSentry was in deep pile of shit for a long time. Every news about MediaSentry was about how much they fail. I have no idea how they were able to exist for so long. I dont even need to look far to find something bad about MediaSentry. Although, come to think of it, MediaSentry helped the pirate community alot by giving a bad name to all the companies that tried to "kill" piracy.

I'm confused, should I love or hate them?

Then SLOWLY over the years, companies seemed to realize that fans on the internet increased buzz, visibility and mindshare for their products. Now they cater directly to the fan base by pandering at Comic-Con and such.

Yep, you've got it exactly right.

I work for a video game company, and our fan community is something that's actively promoted. We provide kits with official artwork, music tracks & sound effects, links to popular community sites from ours, etc. We employ a full-time community manager to provide a communication link between our fans and our development team. This is all outside the scope of our more traditional marketing department or customer support systems. I don't feel this effort is wasted. It's important to make a connection to your customers - that will help ensure your long-term success, along with the obvious: producing fun, high-quality games.

The music biz is part of the old, pre-net generation that's big on control. They fear the Internet because it's something they can't explicitly control (or at least manage) like traditional media. If someone else is using their property, then they should be paying for rights, correct? Then at the same time, they actively pay for promotion of that same property elsewhere. It's this same schizophrenic logic that prompted Toyota to demand fansites cease using company-produced images of their vehicles in wallpapers. At least they eventually figured out it was idiotic to pass up free advertising, especially when they need all the help they can get right now too.

Then SLOWLY over the years, companies seemed to realize that fans on the internet increased buzz, visibility and mindshare for their products. Now they cater directly to the fan base by pandering at Comic-Con and such.

Yep, you've got it exactly right.

I work for a video game company, and our fan community is something that's actively promoted. We provide kits with official artwork, music tracks & sound effects, links to popular community sites from ours, etc. We employ a full-time community manager to provide a communication link between our fans and our development team. This is all outside the scope of our more traditional marketing department or customer support systems. I don't feel this effort is wasted. It's important to make a connection to your customers - that will help ensure your long-term success, along with the obvious: producing fun, high-quality games.

The music biz is part of the old, pre-net generation that's big on control. They fear the Internet because it's something they can't explicitly control (or at least manage) like traditional media. If someone else is using their property, then they should be paying for rights, correct? Then at the same time, they actively pay for promotion of that same property elsewhere. It's this same schizophrenic logic that prompted Toyota to demand fansites cease using company-produced images of their vehicles in wallpapers. At least they eventually figured out it was idiotic to pass up free advertising, especially when they need all the help they can get right now too.

mistakenly identifies my IP because I'm sharing some linux distros or whatever,

You don't even have to be sharing anything, since an IP on a tracker means nothing:
However, the tracker owners are aware of this, and trick these tracking companies by polluting the list of IP-addresses the tracker returns. That is one of the techniques The Pirate Bay uses, just to show how flawed the evidence gathering is.

Or shop with a pirate on your shoulder ;-)

http://torrentfreak.com/firefox-pirates-take-over-amazon-081203/

Someone should put up a poster about how much money they get per a cd bought and/or cd downloaded compared to the artist(s). I couldn't find any numbers but I know i've read before and its a pittance. This is rather interesting as well.

Can go one better: The weight of evidence is in the real world sales: http://torrentfreak.com/alchemist-author-pirates-own-books-080124/
http://toc.oreilly.com/2008/08/pirates-convince-game-develope.html
The weight of real-world evidence is in favor of the hypothesis posted above. The only anti-hypothesis you've got is 1 Pirate == 1 lost sale. *cough* Your data prove your hypothesis?*cough**cough*

http://torrentfreak.com/files/piratesoftheamazon.xpi

The original part of the extension is actually just a fairly short Greasemonkey script. For some reason, they packaged it with a bunch of other stuff from Greasemonkey. It's pretty poor quality code, to be honest.

The Piet Zwart Institute is an art school (a pretty renowned one, too). I don't find it very strange that the code is poor. Unusual as the defense might be, it makes sense to me.

Or Freenet. I got it here: http://torrentfreak.com/files/piratesoftheamazon.xpi

http://torrentfreak.com/files/piratesoftheamazon.xpi

The original part of the extension is actually just a fairly short Greasemonkey script. For some reason, they packaged it with a bunch of other stuff from Greasemonkey. It's pretty poor quality code, to be honest.

This is worth reading about P4P: http://torrentfreak.com/uncovering-the-dark-side-of-p4p-080824/

Ha.

Programmers are like bloggers -- a dime a dozen. Why hire when there are plenty of others working for free just to get their name known? Being a signal among the noise is merely a matter of being in the right place at the right time.

Sure, some are good(or lucky, mostly lucky) enough to be hired and paid salary to code but there're a hell of a lot of fully-enabled latchkey kids who've been writing apps since age 5 and they're willing to code without having to worry about things like paying rent since they live in their parents' basements, Bram Cohen being the canonical example.

Open source serves the greater good as long as people don't have to worry about paying rent or buying their own groceries or making their own car payments unless they want to give up every hour of their free time. CS grads -- unless you have rich parents and a fat trust fund, you can count on writing Actionscript for 16 bucks an hour for the rest of your life!

For Vuze, formerly Azureus, there are Ono and P4P, which should do what you're looking for, although for different reasons. Unfortunately, they both rely on people in your region being interested in the same torrents you are, while P4P additionally benefits from an iTracker, an ISP provided tracker that's topology aware (they did some work to prioritize based on ping latency, using that as a distance estimate, but I don't know if it's a fallback mechanism). Due to the iTracker infrastructure and possibly conflicting supporters, there are some privacy concerns.

Don't forget as well, that the main guy behind Hayes modems, Dale Heatherington had just a 2 year degree from a tech college, when he co-founded Hayes, and helped create the net in his own way (and Dale's also a really nice guy)

He's still someone who invents amazing things, and I always love to give his creations a look over, and despite me having a masters in robotics, his robotic creations always make mine look shabby.

Back on topic though, education isn't everything. I'm not a networking person, Bennett supposedly is. Why is it I could see what was wrong in his statements? Whats more, like the standard, I took the chance to both try the client out, and talk to the people behind it - mainly the tireless Firon, as he talked me though the protocol, and it's hopes, as well as his thoughts, as Community manager (and so the one people ask everything of from 'where do I get invites' to 'why is my utorrent sending out improperly bencoded packets') on the article. It can be read here

At least not according to the article:

Yet, Toyota has also been cagey. These demands have not been sent in the form of a DMCA notice.

The same spies that push porn spam while they "investigate" or that use automated "investigation" that can't tell the difference between a file sharer and a printer? Yeah I kinda doubt it is really costing them much for their "investigation work" there.

But let us be honest here,this has absolutely NOTHING to do with artists or creators,and is nothing but unrestrained greed from non producing middlemen. How else can you explain getting up in court and with a straight face saying Ripping your CD to your iPod isn't fair use because you didn't get prior "authorization"(in the form of giving them another check) first.

And finally,since we always have at least a few "get the dirty evil pirates" every time we have this conversation,I am going to say this again: There is NO WAY that anyone can stand up here and with a straight face say that copyrights are anything but broken. If you try,I have one sentence for you: Steamboat Willie is still under copyright. The man has been dead for half a century,and yet his FIRST work,one that was made when most cars had to be started with a freaking handcrank,is still under copyright. I think we can all agree that is severely fucked up. Copyright was supposed to be a contract,nothing more or less. We got a richer public domain in return for a LIMITED monopoly on a work. The fact that Steamboat Willie is still under copyright should prove the contract is broken and not worth the paper copyright laws were written on.

All of which we can thank the late Sonny Bono for sponsoring his wonderful legislation. AG

Am I going to be the only one who asks the obvious? Why should he be allowed to record the movie?

He shouldn't. The reason it's YRO is more concern over how far this will go. The Canadian Motion Picture Distributors Association was pushing for jail time for this.

People have been arrested before for recording under 1min clips on camera phones. Banning someone from operating any recording devices outside their home is a little odd as well.

The same spies that push porn spam while they "investigate" or that use automated "investigation" that can't tell the difference between a file sharer and a printer? Yeah I kinda doubt it is really costing them much for their "investigation work" there.

But let us be honest here,this has absolutely NOTHING to do with artists or creators,and is nothing but unrestrained greed from non producing middlemen. How else can you explain getting up in court and with a straight face saying Ripping your CD to your iPod isn't fair use because you didn't get prior "authorization"(in the form of giving them another check) first.

And finally,since we always have at least a few "get the dirty evil pirates" every time we have this conversation,I am going to say this again: There is NO WAY that anyone can stand up here and with a straight face say that copyrights are anything but broken. If you try,I have one sentence for you: Steamboat Willie is still under copyright. The man has been dead for half a century,and yet his FIRST work,one that was made when most cars had to be started with a freaking handcrank,is still under copyright. I think we can all agree that is severely fucked up. Copyright was supposed to be a contract,nothing more or less. We got a richer public domain in return for a LIMITED monopoly on a work. The fact that Steamboat Willie is still under copyright should prove the contract is broken and not worth the paper copyright laws were written on.

while you have deep pockets and probably more than half a clue as to how to produce a meaningful defense, your in a minority.

The costs of defending yourself against the charges made, engaging a solicitor, an expert witness, forensic examination of your computer systems, (which could only demonstrates the systems presented were not used, if you accept you can prove a negative). Loss of your PC hardware while defending the case, the loss of private data, unrelated to the case but stored on the pc systems, all in all can out weigh the annoyance of paying the relatively small sum of £500.

So your looking at lose, lose and the more you try to fight the more the costs get added on. For a lot of people cutting their losses by paying is the cheapest solution.

What is more interesting is there seems to be cases where IP addresses were identified that hadn't been used for p2p, ie not including unknown access by third parties.

http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-bay-tricks-anti-pirates-with-fake-peers-081020/comment-page-2/

If you take this report at face value as the bbc seems to have done, it seems pirate bay inserts random ip addresses into the peers list. It also appears some investigators are assuming that there is an offer to download being made by an ip address by virtue of being on that list and haven't bothered to confirm that the file is actually available from that peer.

As some p2p users block certain ip ranges there is no way to be certain that the user is blocking the investigators ip address or isn't offering the file in the first place.

Would representatives of the pirate bay make credible witnesses in your defense?
Would they even come to your country to take the witness stand?

  while this is a uk story and may not be as risky as entering US territory (see cases of off shore gambling company executives being held in the USA despite being legal in the UK and company shares traded on the London stock exchange).

The cost of bringing forth these witnesses would be probably a greater expense than just paying the extortion money.

Should the matter go to court, and the defendants lose there are additional costs incurred, being unable or unwilling to immediately pay usually results in bailiffs fee's becoming payable and these can rapidly spiral way beyond the value of the initial judgement.

I think if you were to bring one of these letters to an honest solicitor or lawyer they would say pay it and get on with your life. It isn't fair or just but it probably would be the cheapest solution.

Hopefully some of these cases where people fight back and win will at least ensure in future that at least some evidence is gathered beyond an IP address.

While I commend your willingness to fight an injustice, you do have something to lose presumably and a lawyer should advice you, you could lose it.

You may never of heard the phrase commonly used by petty criminals "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime". Currently the chances of facing real penalty's for downloading copyrighted pay for data is quite low but the risks do appear to be increasing.

Why bother taking the risk? perhaps it's even worth going for a cheaper net access package and buying wisely.
  It's not hard to get clued up on what is worth your money and what isn't these days and often there are good free alternatives.

As much as I like uTorrent, I don't really think it can be considered as "FTW" because it doesn't support UDP trackers.

The use of UDP trackers is a great way to relieve the load on popular tracker servers, because they are bogged down by the large number of stateful TCP connections. Btw, The Pirate Bay supports UDP tracking.

Grab a copy from the Ubuntu website ...

TorrentFreak has a great tutorial on using BitTorrent to upgrade to Intrepid Ibex. Odds are high that the default servers in sources.list are going to be taxed pretty heavily today so this might be useful to a lot of people.

Now if only Microsoft & Apple could harness & effectively utilize the power of p2p ... *cough* *cough*

a) The torrent sites are easy to search, have good files and few fakes.

You mean, like this?

here's a partial transcript from Live Chat with an IX Webhost Rep (be warned. there's a lot of incoherent rambling because the customer service rep is from Ukraine, and i think there was a slight communications barrier):

you: ok, i just have one more question
Evgen Voznyak: Sure please go on
you: if we hosted our music on our site
you: would you shut us down like you did Quote Unquote Records?
Evgen Voznyak: We could suspend your account by Copyrights for your music if it is illegal
you: but we own the copyrights to our music
Evgen Voznyak: In this case everything is fine
you: then why was Quote Unquote shut down?
you: they held the copyrights to the music they put up
you: or did someone file a complaint against their site?
Evgen Voznyak: Please read about Our Terms of Service http://www.ixwebhosting.com/index.php/v2/pages.tos
you: ok, i just read the section about IP and copyright
you: but i still have qustions about how the Quate Unquote Records site came to be shut down
you: are you allowed to discuss the details with me?
Evgen Voznyak: Yes I am allowed
you: ok
Evgen Voznyak: Let me explain
Evgen Voznyak: If we found some warez on Illegal information which is phishing material, we automatically suspend your account with request delete your content, also adult content is not allowed.
you: is that what you found on their site?
Evgen Voznyak: We search such content on our customers sites
you: and what did you find on Quote Unquote Records's site?
Evgen Voznyak: If we found that your domain getting many querries for users and it has been overloaded we suspend account
you: you're not telling me anything about the Quote Unqoute site
Evgen Voznyak: Please clarify what do you mean about Quote Unqoute
you: ok, there was this new article recently about your company
you: basically it talks about an Independent Record Label (like the one i work at) being shut down by you guys for "copyright violations"
you: but the violations your company accused them of were for songs that they held the copyrights to
you: so you basically shut down their site for posting their own songs up
you: you can read the news article here: http://torrentfreak.com/record-label-infringes-own-copyright-site-pulled-081019/
you: i don't want the same thing to happen to our website because we post our own copyrighted music and music videos on our site too.
Evgen Voznyak: If you have your own copyright this will not happens with you
you: but that's exactly what happened to Quote Unquote Records
you: i just want to know how you determined that they were violating copyright laws
Evgen Voznyak: I will give you example mail which you need to write for us
Evgen Voznyak: Thank you for notifying us of a client who may be infringing on copyright materials. As we would like to work with you to resolve this issue, there may be several supporting documents we need in order to continue. All information must be received via Federal Postal mail and delivered to the following address:
Evgen Voznyak: Company Name
Evgen Voznyak: PO BOX 1599
Evgen Voznyak: Hopkinsville,KY 42241
Evgen Voznyak: Please send a copy of the registered copyrights from the USPTO or other governing legal entities for the concerned material. If the text or images are located in a certain area of our client's website, please let us know where we can find the resource as this will assist us in a quicker resolution.
you: so who notified you that Quote Unquote was infringing on copyright materials?
you: did they include proof that they held the copyright to the materials being infringed?
you: did you investigate whether the claims were true?
you: and was their a court ordered injunction that required you to shut down their site?
you: or did you just shut down the site without verifying whether any law

You can add to that list

http://torrentfreak.com/european-parliament-says-no-to-three-strikes-law-080925/ (URL pretty much tells what's that about)

and

The Pirate Bay's blocking in Italy is apparently overruled after TPB sent in their lawyers.

This is a *very* good day :)

Well why the Fuck isn't that on Slashdot?
Or did I just miss it?

You can add to that list

http://torrentfreak.com/european-parliament-says-no-to-three-strikes-law-080925/ (URL pretty much tells what's that about)

and

The Pirate Bay's blocking in Italy is apparently overruled after TPB sent in their lawyers.

This is a *very* good day :)

Except that it's nonsense. There's a decent analysis at http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-throttles-bittorrent-traffic-seeding-impossible/comment-page-20 . What they were actually doing was far more subtle than merely counting and blocking connections: they were forging packets to pretend the connection was there, but confusing the client about it so that it would keep trying the dead connection and not go on to another one. That's intentionally interfering with high-number-of-random-connection services such as Bittorrent, in a way that doesn't affect other traffic anywhere near so awfully.

0) people download and play game, and see how unfullfilling, widdled down the game really is after all the hype

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Seriously, Spore is one of the two most over-hyped games of this year.

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DRM
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Opposite effect.

I guess the RIAA decided to take a page from the MPAA's playbook on this one.

Too bad NYCL can't comment on the suit.

Like this: isoHunt Sues the CRIA to Legalize BitTorrent Sites ?

Wasnt there a story a while back saying that they'd made like $140million in total from filesharing lawsuits? This amount included the settlements against Napster etc. The recording artists involved in the Napster case were suing the RIAA because they'd not seen a single cent of it.

Not sure how I missed it the first time around but yeah, there was.

It would be pretty hilarious if the RIAA got sued into oblivion by the very artists they claim to "protect".

Would you mind posting how you know this? Simply because if this can be effective then everyone needs to know....

http://torrentfreak.com/uk-game-piracy-the-propaganda-the-evidence-and-the-damages-080821/