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It is NOT aluminum foil that protects you, it is iron chain mail. If you look back in history you can clearly see that as the number of knights diminishes, the number of "so-called" schizophrenic people increases! Why you may ask?

Chain mail was invented back during the first alien invasion by the race known as the Krew. At that time the aliens only used their mind control devices upon the leading members of society, i.e. the nobles, causing them to talk to themselves. This is why the nobility adopted chain mail.

With the protection afforded by said chain mail, the nobility decided to strike back. This is where the world Cru-sades comes from as the etymology clearly shows. First we have the Cru From the latin CRU or cross. Is it a coinicidence that the cross( a symbol of protection against evil) and the Krew have the same in latin? I think not!
It becomes more apparent when one looks at the second half of the word: SADE
As you can clearly see, SADE in swedish is the past tense of saga, "say, tell; utter words"

So the true definition becomes clear, CRUSADE - to protect against alien influence causing one to utter words!!!

That's a pretty lame argument given that we have examples of ID in action, namely the many food crops and domestic animals that humanity (the intelligent designer) modified over the past ten thousand years or so. Furhter, claims that if we were created by space aliens, implies that the space aliens were in turn created by yet some other "intelligent designer" are absurd.

Second, it's your opinion that intelligence is complex

It's much more discrete than carrying around an iPod

It's much more discrete than carrying around an iPod

quid is English slang for pound sterling.

Who'll follow up on this thread? I'm sure we can find enough free-as-in-freedom warriors to do a tech analysis on the software and confirm the report in parent comment? C'mon, hoisting retards on their own petards is just too much fun!

Since the definition of celibacy is the state of not being married, all people are celibate until marriage.

The company's understanding of the marketplace, argues Carroll, has proved fertile ground for many of the inventions, however incremental, that Microsoft produces on a regular basis.

;) http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vaporware

his laughable claims to being a Democrat

he might just as well claim that he isn't homophobic.

Card doesn't simply think that homosexual behavior is sinful - a person can think that without also being homophobic.

The problem here is that Card goes quite a bit further.

He believes that homosexuality is a threat to heterosexual marriages and heterosexual relationships

so as not to shake the confidence of the community in the polity's ability to provide rules for safe, stable, dependable marriage and family relationships.

Last time I checked, Wiktionary is written by random people from the web, whereas the New York Times is written by people who actually know something. Look -- yours truly, yet another random person from the web, just modified the Wiktionary definition to make you a liar:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/golly#Etymology_1

Wiktionary and Wikipedia are cool concepts, but they must not be used as sources for any research beyond common harmless curiosity.

"Golly" is a compaction of "God's body" and, thus, was once a profanity.

First correct your belief http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/belief
then tell others.

but WTF does 'free as in beer' mean, and how does that differ from 'free as in speech'?

• Free as in "free beer": offered in exchange for consideration other than money.
• Free as in "free speech": providing a distinct, well-recognized set of liberties to the user.

Or look it up in Wiktionary: "free beer" refers to definition 2, while "free speech" covers most of the other definitions.

all my friends (90+% of them being programmers, technicians, and administrators, some even visiting /. regularly) haven't the slightest clue what that means.

Any of them speak Spanish or French? In Spanish, free as in "free speech" is libre, while free as in "free beer" is gratis. The words in French are similar (libre and gratuit).

...laugh at people that aren't in the click...

These people are evacuees, not refugees. Take a look here.

These people are evacuees, not refugees. Take a look here.

What you propose is a software version of utopia.

People who try to work towards a perfect world will fail to do so, but while trying will contribute more than those resigned to selfishness and pessimism.

Socialists always advocate for such things yet never learn from the lessons of the past.

What lessons of the past should I learn from? Show me another example of a worldwide social movement that worked on voluntary co-operation, and had the tremendous level of success we currently enjoy.

There are two ways in which OSS will ultimately fail.

1. Sufficient numbers of SKILLED programmers will fail to see the wisdom of giving away their valuable labor just for some nebulous "social good".

Nebulous "social good"? No. We see the results of our work and the good it does. We see the wisdom in our valuable labour, there is a large amount of pride in our community because of it.

Making Linux freely available is the single best decision I've ever made. Linus Torvalds

Inform me on the day when there is a decrease in overall participation in the free software movement from people deciding that their participation isn't in the best interest of themselves and their communities.

We really don't know and can never know how many hardware products are sold today or will be sold in the future using free software at their core. Since not that many people will have access to the proprietary source it is very possible and convienent for a company to build a business off the backs of open source developers while simultaneously disrespecting the license of the software.

Any business that does this is taking a big risk. Penalties for copyright infringement are severe, and hiding such a secret is not easy. Let's examine your scenario though. Some business uses GPLed software in their product and manages to hide this. How does this become part of "ways in which OSS will ultimately fail."? If the business had not used the GPLed software, they would of either wrote their own, or legally or illegally used someone else's. How does this lead to a failure for the free software movement? None of these four outcomes are desirable, but none of them take anything away from the free software movement.

Sarcasm: A keen, reproachful expression; a satirical remark uttered with some degree of scorn or contempt; a taunt; a gibe; a cutting jest.

More: US court files reveal Italian link to Indymedia server grab

-Jeff

P.S. insouciance...

As of 2:35 PM, the summary looks like this:

Posted by Zonk on Tuesday July 19, @02:26PM
from the murdoch-immediately-propositioned-for-cyber dept.
jagger writes "a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4695495. stm">News Corp announced on Monday that it , owner of the popular MySpace.com social networking site, http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.j html?articleID=166400491&tid=13692">for $580 million. This follows an announcement by News Corp on Friday that it is creating an Internet division to hold the company's sports, news and entertainment sites."

More correctly, it should look like this:

Posted by Zonk on Tuesday July 19, @02:26PM
from the editing-is-for-wimps dept.
someguy writes News Corp is a massive media conflomerate owned by media mogul Rupert Murdoch. News Corp recently announced that they are moving into the internet market, with the acquisition of Intermix media, which runs the popular MySpace.com social networking site. For more information, refer to this BBC news article, and this information week article.

BBC Article text is:

News Corp in $580m internet buy

News Corp, the company run by media mogul Rupert Murdoch, has made one of its first major internet purchases.

It has bought Intermix Media, owner of Myspace.com, the fifth most-viewed internet domain in the US and owner of other sites for $580m (£332.85m).

Mr Murdoch says the networking site will drive traffic to his Fox TV sites.

Last week the company set up a new internet unit. Mr Murdoch has said that newspapers have been slow to respond to competition from the internet.

Advertising advantage

"With a significant amount of advertising dollars moving from traditional outlets to online, News Corp, like most media companies, is looking to boost its internet assets," Alan Gould, an analyst at Natexis Bleichroeder, told Reuters.

The US market for internet advertising is growing at 15% in 2005, according to media buyers Universal McCann.

Myspace.com users connect to the site for dating, making friends, professional networking and sharing interests.

Earlier this year, New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer accused Intermix of deceptive business practices, including the use of spyware that delivered pop-up adverts and redirected users to its search engine.

Intermix agreed to pay $7.9m to settle the suit but did not admit wrongdoing.

InformationWeek article:

News Corp. To Acquire Intermix Media July 18, 2005

The move triples News Corp.'s reach among U.S. Internet users and makes it a player in the online social-networking market. By Antone Gonsalves
InternetWeek

News Corp. on Monday said it has agreed to acquire Intermix Media Inc., which owns more than 30 e-commerce and media websites, for $580 million in cash, tripling News Corp.'s reach among U.S. Internet users and making it a player in the online social-networking market.

In a separate deal, Intermix announced on Monday that it has acquired the 47 percent of social networking site MySpace.com that it didn't already own.

In the News Corp. agreement, the Los Angeles based media giant would pay $12 per common share of Intermix stock, or about $580 million. The transaction is expected to close in the fourth quarter, pending approval of Intermix stockholders.

MySpace.com and Intermix's other

Well, as long as I'm drawing Flamebait mods...

Maybe, just maybe, because it is a joke

Which on Slashdot, has very little bearing on whether or not it's funny .

Look, like I said, I have no problem with anyone picking on Bill Gates because he wants to rule the software world and destroy people who want to give their software away for free. But there's a huge difference between picking on Bill Gates because he's evil and picking on Bill Gates because he's nerdy. Being a nerd myself, I'll defend him every time against latter attacks, even if it costs me some Slashdot karma.

Hell, I have been known to tell a few self-deprecating nerd jokes. But that's not what this was. This was a malicious attack against a specific person for a quality that almost everyone here shares to some extent. Maybe you also think that <insert ethnicity or physical trait> jokes are funny to a lot of people, and maybe in some situations, some of them actually are. But posting them in a <insert ethnicity or physical trait> forum is not only bad taste, it's a generally assholish thing to do. And when someone who happens to be a <insert ethnicity or physical trait> gets irritated, you shouldn't be surprised.

First, the development model (and maybe business model - but that is not the essential thing) itself is THE innovation of free software.

Next, are wiki's not an innovation of free software?
And are P2P networks not an offspring or cousin of free software?
And I would say that Mozilla/Firefox are more inventive than IE.

What did Microsoft invent?
The OS ? ... must be joking, maybe they do not know exactly what it is (sorry, naughty here).
The Desktop concept? Nay
The spreadsheet? No
The word processor? Niet
The presentation tool? Nope
The database? No
The browser? Come on ... try again

Eventually, all these concept orifginated over 30 years ago, in the early days of computers becoming popular.
The recent waves of new concepts are, I suggest, all related to free software.

Free software is a new paradigm (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/paradigm) enabling the occurence of new concepts.

not to pick nits or anything, but how does a dumb tech ever say reinstall?

Wrong site. Use the dictionary

Who needs media player to interact with an encyclopedia? I already know who sings the songs I listen to. I've already bookmarked the band's web site, which has more photos and lyrics than Wikipedia could collect. I've seen the IMDB entry on the movie I'm watching, or I have the box it came in. What's the point?

Now, something like an e-book reader tied to a service like Wiktionary would be far more useful. I think a lot more people would take advantage of something like this (particularly those with handleld wireless devices).

While it would seem that religion and science have been knuckleheads, religion is not the main reason, it is merely one of the tools.

At least the precedence of the law is on our side for holding people accountable for their possessions.

Umm, I think you meant precedent!
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Precedent

Here's an opportunity! Be the first person to add a definition for "blumpy" to the Wiktionary.

Spoken like a true Christian...

...Is anyone sensing the effect of US government brainwashing here... or is it just me?
Isn't the moral of Christianity to 'love thy neighbour', 'do unto others...' and all that?
When did "deny, hate and gain control of those who don't look or think the same way as you do" slip into the bible?

I think the 'Anonymous Coward' (apt don't you think?) has been watching a little too many TV "evangelists" or GW Bush propaganda for his own good.

I wanted to let you know so you could fix your diction and present yourself to the world in a more positive manner.

For those who don't speak Australian

A discrete word? Capt. Kirk comes to mind!

In any case, try to keep it discreet - if ASOTV works at Apple, I'm sure the PR guys or The Steve himself would eat him alive if they find out.:-)

A discrete word? Capt. Kirk comes to mind!

In any case, try to keep it discreet - if ASOTV works at Apple, I'm sure the PR guys or The Steve himself would eat him alive if they find out.:-)

GIF does not "loose" anything.

Having read this article, your blog http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/, being an admin of http://it.wiktionary.org/ I am really wondering the same. Wiktionary is so much more than an "ordinary" dictionary like websters ... just take the glossaries we are creating. Some of them quite specific like the Italian-German geological terminology on the Italian wiktionary, the Christianity-glossary on nl and it .... all the pronunciations (most of them Dutch). Now with Ultimate Wiktionary all the work done during the last months will have even more value. People are contributing not only with words, but also from the financial side. It be came of so much value for educational purposes, for people studying languages. It even attraccted attention of European Community level glossaries. I'd very much like to know what Larry would say if he knew that language professionals are working on wiktionary. I'd like him to have a closer look to what he described and he will see that the actual Wiktionary, the development that went on and on during the last year ... or really not even a year ... is so much more than he says. Thanks for your attention! Sabine Cretella

You can see my work so far at the following links:

Wikipedia in Plucker format
Wikiquote in Plucker format
Wikitionary in Plucker format

..and of course, my beautiful anti-alias fonts for Plucker, made with PalmFontConv by Alexander Pruss.

I've also converted the Creating XPCOM Components book by Doug Turner and Ian Oeschger to Plucker format as well as the FreeBSD Handbook.

I have literally hundreds of similar-quality works I'll be releasing over the next few months to the community on an ongoing basis.

If there's something you'd like to see, just let me know

What's this? Laymen don't understand jargon? What a new concept this is. Thank goodness the Beeb finally clued us in! We certainly haven't been aware of this problem for longer than I've been alive...

But seriously, this is pretty much what jargon means. It allows us to express some fairly complicated concepts concisely enough to get things done in a reasonable amount of time. Remember, too, that these are words for things that the general populace doesn't really have a precise concept for already.

Here is the right link to Wiktionary!

If Google continues to support Wikipedia or even acquire it, then they might increase the support for Wiktionary. However, the answers.com thing they have set up is pretty nice since it brings a bunch of dictionary and similar references together.

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Free iPod? Try a free Mac Mini
Or a free Nintendo DS, GC, PS2, Xbox
Wired article as proof

If they want to really open it up, they should combine their efforts with that of Wiktionary

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Free iPod? Try a free Mac Mini
Or a free Nintendo DS, GC, PS2, Xbox
Wired article as proof

No. Irony would be if it was never edited.

Stephen

This project owns much to Chevol Davis who contributed unvaluable serverspace and bandwidth.

It shouldn't be. Wiktionary should have word definitions, wikipeda is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary.
This is the wiktionary.

Besides, FOIA does not mean that you can get all of the information that you want from the government. FOIA requests can be refused for a variety of reasons (these reasons are specified in the act). Requests for "sensitive" data are often refused. So computer security isn't moot anyway.

Besides, FOIA does not mean that you can get all of the information that you want from the government. FOIA requests can be refused for a variety of reasons (these reasons are specified in the act). Requests for "sensitive" data are often refused. So computer security isn't moot anyway.

One need not be a "homophobe" to have serious reservations about the ethics of homosexual practice.

Yes you do. Please, if you have any rational basis as to why it is immoral to be gay then please enlighten me. Also, when you describe being homosexual as a 'practice' you are subscribing to the line that being homosexual is something you do and thus something you CHOOSE to do, which is where ethical and moralistic judgements are born. What people like you cannot apparently fathom is that being homosexual does not just mean ass fucking. To you, being homosexual as opposed to being heterosexual is simply a matter of choosing between ass fucking and pussy fucking. This is an absurd notion. Please, get your mind out of the gutter and stop thinking about ass fucking when adults are discussing important issues like freedom of religion and equal rights.

One need not be a "homophobe" to feel that marriage is an institution designed to provide for the having and rearing of children.

Valid argument, but just because you 'feel' that marriage is an istitution deesigned for having and rearing children doesn't make it so.

One need not be a "homophobe" in order to feel that a two-parent, heterosexaul household provides children with the best opportunity of developing positive relationships with men AND women.

Yes it does, unless you can cite real and rational evidence to back that up. I doubt that you can do so with legitamate sources. Otherwise, your notion that being raised by homosexuals is 'bad for the children' is based purely on your antipathy to homosexuals ... which is the definition of homophobia. (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Homophobia)

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One need not be a "homophobe" to have serious reservations about the ethics of homosexual practice.

Yes you do. Please, if you have any rational basis as to why it is immoral to be gay then please enlighten me. Also, when you describe being homosexual as a 'practice' you are subscribing to the line that being homosexual is something you do and thus something you CHOOSE to do, which is where ethical and moralistic judgements are born. What people like you cannot apparently fathom is that being homosexual does not just mean ass fucking. To you, being homosexual as opposed to being heterosexual is simply a matter of choosing between ass fucking and pussy fucking. This is an absurd notion. Please, get your mind out of the gutter and stop thinking about ass fucking when adults are discussing important issues like freedom of religion and equal rights.

One need not be a "homophobe" to feel that marriage is an institution designed to provide for the having and rearing of children.

Valid argument, but just because you 'feel' that marriage is an istitution deesigned for having and rearing children doesn't make it so.

One need not be a "homophobe" in order to feel that a two-parent, heterosexaul household provides children with the best opportunity of developing positive relationships with men AND women.

Yes it does, unless you can cite real and rational evidence to back that up. I doubt that you can do so with legitamate sources. Otherwise, your notion that being raised by homosexuals is 'bad for the children' is based purely on your antipathy to homosexuals ... which is the definition of homophobia. (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Homophobia)

Wouldn't mind playing with some Amazons myself.

Me either: I fancy some death by snoo snoo

It is not `discreet' it is `discrete':

From the Wiktionary:

To be discreet means to have/hold one's own beliefs/possessions in a friendly way without making another person feel compromised or challenged. It also means not declaring personal information that one has learned in a private conversation to other people.

While discrete is defined as:

1. separate, from the latin word discretus.
2. In perception a discrete entity is something that can be percepted individually and not as connected to, or part of something else.
3. In mathematics a discrete set is a countable or countably infinite, with a cardinality less than or equal to aleph 0. (Including integers.) Mathematical study of discrete sets is the area of inquiry for discrete mathematics, but also important for combinatorics, probability theory and statistical theory.
4. In mathematics, a discrete space is a topological space in which all sets are open.
5. In electrical engineering, discrete means having separate electronic components, such as individual resistors and inductors -- the opposite of integrated circuitry.
6. In audio engineering, discrete means having separate and independent channels of audio, as opposed to multiplexed stereo or quadrophonic, or other multi-channel sound.

If anyone is to blame, it is the editor that approved TFA, where `discrete' is misspelled `discreet'. Spell check != correctness.