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I personally believe the visuals are close enough to not care but...

Rift has reduced screen door effect making it better than Vive
Rift has slight smaller field of view making it worse than Vive
Rift has a slightly darker screen and often people prefer the brighter more vibrant colors of the Vive.
Rift has worse lens flair issues than the Vive
Rift and Vive have different focal planes. One requires you to focus a few feet in front of you while the other at infinity. Some people find one more comfortable than the other.

Rift's head strap is simply better engineered to stay in place and balance the weight of the device so you can play longer. It also has integrated headphones which makes it faster/easier to put on/take off. However, if you don't have a head shaped for it the Vive's elastic bands can be more comfortable. Vive offers more flexibility for people who wear glasses as you can adjust the distance between your eye and the lens independent of how it's mounted on your head. HTC is releasing a deluxe strap that is similar to the Rift in the next couple months.

The Vive strap is annoying enough to many where you'll find plenty of people (myself included) elected to fix the problem using off the shelf parts like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Rift has computer vision based tracking which is inherently troublesome and inaccurate compared to the Vive's lighthouse tracking.

This is the link you're looking for.

I've got a pie here and I've got a pie there, so I'm pie-winning!

Nonsense, a lot of people wanted them. I wanted one.

Privacy concerns helped kill it for one. Because the threat to your privacy isn't the NSA or CCTV cams everywhere or facebook on your phone or the two cameras on it. No no, it's a grainy camera on some tech bro's head evidently.

Also the thing was absurdly overhyped. The video announcing it made it seem like it would be a full view overlay, not like holding your phone up off to the side. But I'd have still maybe wanted one so I could read while walking around without looking down at my phone.

Why don't they offer to run this against the thousands of hours of course videos that Berkley just pulled due to ADA? Google gets massive training material, Berkley gets free transcripts, and the material stays online. Everyone wins...

Good idea, but unfortunately it won't work in this case. Many of UCBerkeley's lecture videos only show the slides and you hear the lecturer talk. See, for example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?....

Apparently tigers work better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

The Vive strap isn't the most ideal way to distribute it's weight across your face and head. There are a decent number of reports where in the middle of longer sessions (hour+) people find it gets quite uncomfortable. I've never experienced that much discomfort but I did replace the strap as it had a tendency to allow the headset to slip a bit. However, after replacing it with the welding mask mod ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?... ) I realized just how much more comfortable it can be with a better strap. The PSVR is probably the most comfortable HMD right now with Rift coming in a close second.

How about this use case? A hundred facts added to a video, and no requests to like or subscribe.

...would be cheaper, have a longer range, and require less direction. Apparently, eagles naturally hate drones and will seek them out and take them down. They're pretty effective too: https://www.youtube.com/result...

And if you actually read the news you'd know Russia has a nasty habbit of invading countries in their little sphere of influence that try to align themselves with us. As far as their hacking, the DNC hack is a million miles from Russia's only antiwestern internet mischief. Eastern Europe's internet infastructure faces continual harassment from the Russians or in other words, our allies are suffering constant harrassment by Russia.

Horseshit.

Reality: the United States overthrew Ukraine's elected government, after the duly elected government went with a low interest loan from Russia instead of one from the IMF, with the usual austerity measures attached. Do any of you American Exceptionalists think the U.S. would stand idly by if Russia had overthrown the Mexican government, complete with a Russian foreign minister bragging on video about the money they spent to do so? And then have the nerve to whine about Russia's [nonexistent] interference in our election. The "harassment from Russia" is even more laughable when you remember how much NATO has expanded since the fall of the Soviet Union.

So even if Russia had invaded Ukraine, it would only be a million times more justified than any American intervention you can name. But they haven't, or you'd have more than laughable evidence collected from the Facebook pages of Ukrainian fascists. If you think the existing Russian military base in Crimea is an invasion, then the U.S. has been conducting 900+ invasions around the world for some time now.

As for the election hacking, those who believed that story from the start showed they didn't learn a damned thing from the lies told about Saddam's WMD's and involvement in 911. Anyone who still believes anonymous sources in the CIA-funded WaPo after the last Wikileaks dump is now an outright fool. Even moreso when high level officials would rather accuse a right-wing Fox News host of working for Putin when asked to look in to the camera and say Russia was behind a specific attack.

dl;dr Russia isn't the problem. Your dumb imperialistic, American Exceptionalist ass is.

And if you actually read the news you'd know Russia has a nasty habbit of invading countries in their little sphere of influence that try to align themselves with us. As far as their hacking, the DNC hack is a million miles from Russia's only antiwestern internet mischief. Eastern Europe's internet infastructure faces continual harassment from the Russians or in other words, our allies are suffering constant harrassment by Russia.

Horseshit.

Reality: the United States overthrew Ukraine's elected government, after the duly elected government went with a low interest loan from Russia instead of one from the IMF, with the usual austerity measures attached. Do any of you American Exceptionalists think the U.S. would stand idly by if Russia had overthrown the Mexican government, complete with a Russian foreign minister bragging on video about the money they spent to do so? And then have the nerve to whine about Russia's [nonexistent] interference in our election. The "harassment from Russia" is even more laughable when you remember how much NATO has expanded since the fall of the Soviet Union.

So even if Russia had invaded Ukraine, it would only be a million times more justified than any American intervention you can name. But they haven't, or you'd have more than laughable evidence collected from the Facebook pages of Ukrainian fascists. If you think the existing Russian military base in Crimea is an invasion, then the U.S. has been conducting 900+ invasions around the world for some time now.

As for the election hacking, those who believed that story from the start showed they didn't learn a damned thing from the lies told about Saddam's WMD's and involvement in 911. Anyone who still believes anonymous sources in the CIA-funded WaPo after the last Wikileaks dump is now an outright fool. Even moreso when high level officials would rather accuse a right-wing Fox News host of working for Putin when asked to look in to the camera and say Russia was behind a specific attack.

dl;dr Russia isn't the problem. Your dumb imperialistic, American Exceptionalist ass is.

He's very accurate.

I doubt any AI system will be able to beat his accuracy in the near future.

I personally believe the visuals are close enough to not care but...

Rift has reduced screen door effect making it better than Vive
Rift has slight smaller field of view making it worse than Vive
Rift has a slightly darker screen and often people prefer the brighter more vibrant colors of the Vive.
Rift has worse lens flair issues than the Vive
Rift and Vive have different focal planes. One requires you to focus a few feet in front of you while the other at infinity. Some people find one more comfortable than the other.

Rift's head strap is simply better engineered to stay in place and balance the weight of the device so you can play longer. It also has integrated headphones which makes it faster/easier to put on/take off. However, if you don't have a head shaped for it the Vive's elastic bands can be more comfortable. Vive offers more flexibility for people who wear glasses as you can adjust the distance between your eye and the lens independent of how it's mounted on your head. HTC is releasing a deluxe strap that is similar to the Rift in the next couple months.

The Vive strap is annoying enough to many where you'll find plenty of people (myself included) elected to fix the problem using off the shelf parts like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Technically speaking the Rift and Vive headsets are very close. The Rift has a slightly lower FOV resulting a higher pixel density which ends up producing slightly less screen door effect. However, people also complain the Rift has more lens flair issues than the Vive does. So when it comes to which one objectively looks better you can make solid arguments for both headsets and it comes down to which specific flaws stand out more to you.

The Rift (out of the box) is absolutely better when it comes to ergonomics but having integrated headphones is debatable... I personally decided to get rid of the Vive strap and did a variation of the welding mask mod ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?... ) and feel that closed the gap in terms of comfort. There is an official HTC strap coming in the next few months that will resolve Vive comfort issues. It won't be included and sold for another $100 but I suspect with the Rift price cut they're going to rethink that strategy.

Touch vs Vive wands is tricky... It really depends on what game you are playing as both have their advantages and disadvantages. Touch is absolutely better for gesturing and feels closer to actually having your hands in VR. However, when it comes to holding objects like a sword or a gun the Vive wand feels more natural/realistic. HTC has a tracker module coming out in the next few months that will allow all sorts of 3rd party peripherals and Valve has demoed new controller prototypes so any advantages Touch has probably won't be long lived.

When it comes to tracking the lighthouse technology is superior. If you are just playing seated games then Rift is faster/easier to setup but as soon as you're standing and want to move around there is no contest. You can get a good room scale experience with a Rift but it is more complicated to setup and is still officially considered "experimental" by Oculus.

Openness/Compatibility is another obvious win for HTC/Valve over Oculus/Facebook. Oculus wants you to use its store and only with its hardware and has DRM to prevent other hardware from using their software. Revive is software that less you bypass the DRM and play Rift games with the Vive but Oculus could break it anytime they want (they stated they won't anymore...) and have done so in the past. HTC's new tracker module offers tons of flexibility. Valve's lighthouse technology is being used with LG's upcoming ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?... ) VR headset. Even though I don't agree with Oculus business practices I admit i still think it's debatable which is better for VR in the long run as they are throwing tons of money into software development.

I'm a Vive owner since June and would still recommend Vive over Rift in spite of the $200 price difference. However, I still absolutely recommend you check out both in person and see for yourself.

Technically speaking the Rift and Vive headsets are very close. The Rift has a slightly lower FOV resulting a higher pixel density which ends up producing slightly less screen door effect. However, people also complain the Rift has more lens flair issues than the Vive does. So when it comes to which one objectively looks better you can make solid arguments for both headsets and it comes down to which specific flaws stand out more to you.

The Rift (out of the box) is absolutely better when it comes to ergonomics but having integrated headphones is debatable... I personally decided to get rid of the Vive strap and did a variation of the welding mask mod ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?... ) and feel that closed the gap in terms of comfort. There is an official HTC strap coming in the next few months that will resolve Vive comfort issues. It won't be included and sold for another $100 but I suspect with the Rift price cut they're going to rethink that strategy.

Touch vs Vive wands is tricky... It really depends on what game you are playing as both have their advantages and disadvantages. Touch is absolutely better for gesturing and feels closer to actually having your hands in VR. However, when it comes to holding objects like a sword or a gun the Vive wand feels more natural/realistic. HTC has a tracker module coming out in the next few months that will allow all sorts of 3rd party peripherals and Valve has demoed new controller prototypes so any advantages Touch has probably won't be long lived.

When it comes to tracking the lighthouse technology is superior. If you are just playing seated games then Rift is faster/easier to setup but as soon as you're standing and want to move around there is no contest. You can get a good room scale experience with a Rift but it is more complicated to setup and is still officially considered "experimental" by Oculus.

Openness/Compatibility is another obvious win for HTC/Valve over Oculus/Facebook. Oculus wants you to use its store and only with its hardware and has DRM to prevent other hardware from using their software. Revive is software that less you bypass the DRM and play Rift games with the Vive but Oculus could break it anytime they want (they stated they won't anymore...) and have done so in the past. HTC's new tracker module offers tons of flexibility. Valve's lighthouse technology is being used with LG's upcoming ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?... ) VR headset. Even though I don't agree with Oculus business practices I admit i still think it's debatable which is better for VR in the long run as they are throwing tons of money into software development.

I'm a Vive owner since June and would still recommend Vive over Rift in spite of the $200 price difference. However, I still absolutely recommend you check out both in person and see for yourself.

Didn't they know? https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

It's this one. An absolute must-see documentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

"The video is essentially over at this point."

Yes, and what is at the end of things?
The punchline.
Look at this, the suggestions are right on top of the man's face:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SdHF_GfssE&t=160
And, surprise, there IS NOT EVEN A WAY TO DISABLE THIS.

Intel CPU Backdoor Report (Updated Mar 13, 2017)

The goal of this report is to make the existence of Intel CPU backdoors a common knowledge and provide information on backdoor removal.

What we know about Intel CPU backdoors so far:

TL;DR version

Your Intel CPU and Chipset is running a backdoor as we speak.

The backdoor hardware is inside the CPU/Bridge and the backdoor firmware (Intel Management Engine) is in the chipset flash memory.

30C3 Intel ME live hack:
@21m43s, keystrokes leaked from Intel ME above the OS, wireshark failed to detect packets.
[Video Link] 30C3: Persistent, Stealthy, Remote-controlled Dedicated Hardware Malware
[Quotes] Vortrag:
"DAGGER exploits Intel's Manageability Engine (ME), that executes firmware code such as Intel's Active Management Technology (iAMT), as well as its OOB network channel."

"the ME provides a perfect environment for undetectable sensitive data leakage on behalf of the attacker."

"We have recently improved DAGGER's capabilites to include support for 64-bit operating systems and a stealthy update mechanism to download new attack code."

"To be more precise, we show how to conduct a DMA attack using Intel's Manageability Engine (ME)."

"We can permanently monitor the keyboard buffer on both operating system targets."

Quotes on Intel backdoors:

A message from RMS
by Richard Stallman on Dec 29, 2016 09:45 AM

The current generation of Intel and AMD processor chips are designed with vicious back doors that users cannot shut off. (In Intel processors, it's the "management engine".)

No users should trust those processors.

Backdoor removal:
The backdoor firmware can be removed by following this guide using the me_cleaner script.
Removal requires a Raspberry Pi (with GPIO pins) and a SOIC clip.

Decoding Intel backdoors:
The situation is out of control and the Libreboot/Coreboot community is looking for BIOS/Firmware experts to help with the Intel ME decoding effort.

If you are skilled in these areas, download Intel ME firmwares from this collection and have a go at them, beware Intel is using a lot of counter measures to prevent their backdoors from being decoded (explained below).

Useful links:
The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't be audited
REcon 2014 - Intel Management Engine Secrets
Untrusting the CPU (33c3)
Towards (reasonably) trustworthy x86 laptops
30C3 To Protect And Infect - The militarization of the Internet
30c3: To Protect And Infect Part 2 - Mass Surveillance Tools & Software

1. Introduction, what is Intel ME

Short version, from Intel staff:

Re: What Intel CPUs lack Intel ME secondary processor?
Amy_Intel Feb 8, 2016 9:27 AM

The Management Engine (ME) is an isolated and p

Intel CPU Backdoor Report (Updated Mar 13, 2017)

The goal of this report is to make the existence of Intel CPU backdoors a common knowledge and provide information on backdoor removal.

What we know about Intel CPU backdoors so far:

TL;DR version

Your Intel CPU and Chipset is running a backdoor as we speak.

The backdoor hardware is inside the CPU/Bridge and the backdoor firmware (Intel Management Engine) is in the chipset flash memory.

30C3 Intel ME live hack:
@21m43s, keystrokes leaked from Intel ME above the OS, wireshark failed to detect packets.
[Video Link] 30C3: Persistent, Stealthy, Remote-controlled Dedicated Hardware Malware
[Quotes] Vortrag:
"DAGGER exploits Intel's Manageability Engine (ME), that executes firmware code such as Intel's Active Management Technology (iAMT), as well as its OOB network channel."

"the ME provides a perfect environment for undetectable sensitive data leakage on behalf of the attacker."

"We have recently improved DAGGER's capabilites to include support for 64-bit operating systems and a stealthy update mechanism to download new attack code."

"To be more precise, we show how to conduct a DMA attack using Intel's Manageability Engine (ME)."

"We can permanently monitor the keyboard buffer on both operating system targets."

Quotes on Intel backdoors:

A message from RMS
by Richard Stallman on Dec 29, 2016 09:45 AM

The current generation of Intel and AMD processor chips are designed with vicious back doors that users cannot shut off. (In Intel processors, it's the "management engine".)

No users should trust those processors.

Backdoor removal:
The backdoor firmware can be removed by following this guide using the me_cleaner script.
Removal requires a Raspberry Pi (with GPIO pins) and a SOIC clip.

Decoding Intel backdoors:
The situation is out of control and the Libreboot/Coreboot community is looking for BIOS/Firmware experts to help with the Intel ME decoding effort.

If you are skilled in these areas, download Intel ME firmwares from this collection and have a go at them, beware Intel is using a lot of counter measures to prevent their backdoors from being decoded (explained below).

Useful links:
The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't be audited
REcon 2014 - Intel Management Engine Secrets
Untrusting the CPU (33c3)
Towards (reasonably) trustworthy x86 laptops
30C3 To Protect And Infect - The militarization of the Internet
30c3: To Protect And Infect Part 2 - Mass Surveillance Tools & Software

1. Introduction, what is Intel ME

Short version, from Intel staff:

Re: What Intel CPUs lack Intel ME secondary processor?
Amy_Intel Feb 8, 2016 9:27 AM

The Management Engine (ME) is an isolated and p

Intel CPU Backdoor Report (Updated Mar 13, 2017)

The goal of this report is to make the existence of Intel CPU backdoors a common knowledge and provide information on backdoor removal.

What we know about Intel CPU backdoors so far:

TL;DR version

Your Intel CPU and Chipset is running a backdoor as we speak.

The backdoor hardware is inside the CPU/Bridge and the backdoor firmware (Intel Management Engine) is in the chipset flash memory.

30C3 Intel ME live hack:
@21m43s, keystrokes leaked from Intel ME above the OS, wireshark failed to detect packets.
[Video Link] 30C3: Persistent, Stealthy, Remote-controlled Dedicated Hardware Malware
[Quotes] Vortrag:
"DAGGER exploits Intel's Manageability Engine (ME), that executes firmware code such as Intel's Active Management Technology (iAMT), as well as its OOB network channel."

"the ME provides a perfect environment for undetectable sensitive data leakage on behalf of the attacker."

"We have recently improved DAGGER's capabilites to include support for 64-bit operating systems and a stealthy update mechanism to download new attack code."

"To be more precise, we show how to conduct a DMA attack using Intel's Manageability Engine (ME)."

"We can permanently monitor the keyboard buffer on both operating system targets."

Quotes on Intel backdoors:

A message from RMS
by Richard Stallman on Dec 29, 2016 09:45 AM

The current generation of Intel and AMD processor chips are designed with vicious back doors that users cannot shut off. (In Intel processors, it's the "management engine".)

No users should trust those processors.

Backdoor removal:
The backdoor firmware can be removed by following this guide using the me_cleaner script.
Removal requires a Raspberry Pi (with GPIO pins) and a SOIC clip.

Decoding Intel backdoors:
The situation is out of control and the Libreboot/Coreboot community is looking for BIOS/Firmware experts to help with the Intel ME decoding effort.

If you are skilled in these areas, download Intel ME firmwares from this collection and have a go at them, beware Intel is using a lot of counter measures to prevent their backdoors from being decoded (explained below).

Useful links:
The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't be audited
REcon 2014 - Intel Management Engine Secrets
Untrusting the CPU (33c3)
Towards (reasonably) trustworthy x86 laptops
30C3 To Protect And Infect - The militarization of the Internet
30c3: To Protect And Infect Part 2 - Mass Surveillance Tools & Software

1. Introduction, what is Intel ME

Short version, from Intel staff:

Re: What Intel CPUs lack Intel ME secondary processor?
Amy_Intel Feb 8, 2016 9:27 AM

The Management Engine (ME) is an isolated and p

Intel CPU Backdoor Report (Updated Mar 13, 2017)

The goal of this report is to make the existence of Intel CPU backdoors a common knowledge and provide information on backdoor removal.

What we know about Intel CPU backdoors so far:

TL;DR version

Your Intel CPU and Chipset is running a backdoor as we speak.

The backdoor hardware is inside the CPU/Bridge and the backdoor firmware (Intel Management Engine) is in the chipset flash memory.

30C3 Intel ME live hack:
@21m43s, keystrokes leaked from Intel ME above the OS, wireshark failed to detect packets.
[Video Link] 30C3: Persistent, Stealthy, Remote-controlled Dedicated Hardware Malware
[Quotes] Vortrag:
"DAGGER exploits Intel's Manageability Engine (ME), that executes firmware code such as Intel's Active Management Technology (iAMT), as well as its OOB network channel."

"the ME provides a perfect environment for undetectable sensitive data leakage on behalf of the attacker."

"We have recently improved DAGGER's capabilites to include support for 64-bit operating systems and a stealthy update mechanism to download new attack code."

"To be more precise, we show how to conduct a DMA attack using Intel's Manageability Engine (ME)."

"We can permanently monitor the keyboard buffer on both operating system targets."

Quotes on Intel backdoors:

A message from RMS
by Richard Stallman on Dec 29, 2016 09:45 AM

The current generation of Intel and AMD processor chips are designed with vicious back doors that users cannot shut off. (In Intel processors, it's the "management engine".)

No users should trust those processors.

Backdoor removal:
The backdoor firmware can be removed by following this guide using the me_cleaner script.
Removal requires a Raspberry Pi (with GPIO pins) and a SOIC clip.

Decoding Intel backdoors:
The situation is out of control and the Libreboot/Coreboot community is looking for BIOS/Firmware experts to help with the Intel ME decoding effort.

If you are skilled in these areas, download Intel ME firmwares from this collection and have a go at them, beware Intel is using a lot of counter measures to prevent their backdoors from being decoded (explained below).

Useful links:
The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't be audited
REcon 2014 - Intel Management Engine Secrets
Untrusting the CPU (33c3)
Towards (reasonably) trustworthy x86 laptops
30C3 To Protect And Infect - The militarization of the Internet
30c3: To Protect And Infect Part 2 - Mass Surveillance Tools & Software

1. Introduction, what is Intel ME

Short version, from Intel staff:

Re: What Intel CPUs lack Intel ME secondary processor?
Amy_Intel Feb 8, 2016 9:27 AM

The Management Engine (ME) is an isolated and p

Intel CPU Backdoor Report (Updated Mar 13, 2017)

The goal of this report is to make the existence of Intel CPU backdoors a common knowledge and provide information on backdoor removal.

What we know about Intel CPU backdoors so far:

TL;DR version

Your Intel CPU and Chipset is running a backdoor as we speak.

The backdoor hardware is inside the CPU/Bridge and the backdoor firmware (Intel Management Engine) is in the chipset flash memory.

30C3 Intel ME live hack:
@21m43s, keystrokes leaked from Intel ME above the OS, wireshark failed to detect packets.
[Video Link] 30C3: Persistent, Stealthy, Remote-controlled Dedicated Hardware Malware
[Quotes] Vortrag:
"DAGGER exploits Intel's Manageability Engine (ME), that executes firmware code such as Intel's Active Management Technology (iAMT), as well as its OOB network channel."

"the ME provides a perfect environment for undetectable sensitive data leakage on behalf of the attacker."

"We have recently improved DAGGER's capabilites to include support for 64-bit operating systems and a stealthy update mechanism to download new attack code."

"To be more precise, we show how to conduct a DMA attack using Intel's Manageability Engine (ME)."

"We can permanently monitor the keyboard buffer on both operating system targets."

Quotes on Intel backdoors:

A message from RMS
by Richard Stallman on Dec 29, 2016 09:45 AM

The current generation of Intel and AMD processor chips are designed with vicious back doors that users cannot shut off. (In Intel processors, it's the "management engine".)

No users should trust those processors.

Backdoor removal:
The backdoor firmware can be removed by following this guide using the me_cleaner script.
Removal requires a Raspberry Pi (with GPIO pins) and a SOIC clip.

Decoding Intel backdoors:
The situation is out of control and the Libreboot/Coreboot community is looking for BIOS/Firmware experts to help with the Intel ME decoding effort.

If you are skilled in these areas, download Intel ME firmwares from this collection and have a go at them, beware Intel is using a lot of counter measures to prevent their backdoors from being decoded (explained below).

Useful links:
The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't be audited
REcon 2014 - Intel Management Engine Secrets
Untrusting the CPU (33c3)
Towards (reasonably) trustworthy x86 laptops
30C3 To Protect And Infect - The militarization of the Internet
30c3: To Protect And Infect Part 2 - Mass Surveillance Tools & Software

1. Introduction, what is Intel ME

Short version, from Intel staff:

Re: What Intel CPUs lack Intel ME secondary processor?
Amy_Intel Feb 8, 2016 9:27 AM

The Management Engine (ME) is an isolated and p

Intel CPU Backdoor Report (Updated Mar 13, 2017)

The goal of this report is to make the existence of Intel CPU backdoors a common knowledge and provide information on backdoor removal.

What we know about Intel CPU backdoors so far:

TL;DR version

Your Intel CPU and Chipset is running a backdoor as we speak.

The backdoor hardware is inside the CPU/Bridge and the backdoor firmware (Intel Management Engine) is in the chipset flash memory.

30C3 Intel ME live hack:
@21m43s, keystrokes leaked from Intel ME above the OS, wireshark failed to detect packets.
[Video Link] 30C3: Persistent, Stealthy, Remote-controlled Dedicated Hardware Malware
[Quotes] Vortrag:
"DAGGER exploits Intel's Manageability Engine (ME), that executes firmware code such as Intel's Active Management Technology (iAMT), as well as its OOB network channel."

"the ME provides a perfect environment for undetectable sensitive data leakage on behalf of the attacker."

"We have recently improved DAGGER's capabilites to include support for 64-bit operating systems and a stealthy update mechanism to download new attack code."

"To be more precise, we show how to conduct a DMA attack using Intel's Manageability Engine (ME)."

"We can permanently monitor the keyboard buffer on both operating system targets."

Quotes on Intel backdoors:

A message from RMS
by Richard Stallman on Dec 29, 2016 09:45 AM

The current generation of Intel and AMD processor chips are designed with vicious back doors that users cannot shut off. (In Intel processors, it's the "management engine".)

No users should trust those processors.

Backdoor removal:
The backdoor firmware can be removed by following this guide using the me_cleaner script.
Removal requires a Raspberry Pi (with GPIO pins) and a SOIC clip.

Decoding Intel backdoors:
The situation is out of control and the Libreboot/Coreboot community is looking for BIOS/Firmware experts to help with the Intel ME decoding effort.

If you are skilled in these areas, download Intel ME firmwares from this collection and have a go at them, beware Intel is using a lot of counter measures to prevent their backdoors from being decoded (explained below).

Useful links:
The Intel ME subsystem can take over your machine, can't be audited
REcon 2014 - Intel Management Engine Secrets
Untrusting the CPU (33c3)
Towards (reasonably) trustworthy x86 laptops
30C3 To Protect And Infect - The militarization of the Internet
30c3: To Protect And Infect Part 2 - Mass Surveillance Tools & Software

1. Introduction, what is Intel ME

Short version, from Intel staff:

Re: What Intel CPUs lack Intel ME secondary processor?
Amy_Intel Feb 8, 2016 9:27 AM

The Management Engine (ME) is an isolated and p

The Dark Room: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

"You awake to find yourself in a dark room."

I've fond memories of an evening well-spent navigating the many corners of that particular maze. I want to hear more about the war between electricity and steam...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Specifically, designed for Trump deplorables.

Bwahhahh !

I'm reminded of the Louis CK bit about nut allergies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

I bet it won't be long before someone claims text in an email they received triggered some reaction

Sam? is that you?

Just need to exercise it while it's growing.
Of course, then you have to worry about it escaping the factory.. ewwww, Bill Cosby.

Was expecting Jack's Smirking Revenge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Well, shucks. (Totally reliable source, right?)

Not a corporation, though. Give that one some time.

While you're waiting, why not watch a documentary? Editorializing included free of charge.

Who gives a f*...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Here is footage of the Maine legislature writing the law in question.

I think I saw that episode.

There's already one for previously-existing nuclear test footage.

Nuclear weapons explosions always have that strange mix of terrifying and stunningly beautiful.

It does require work. If you don't want BSODs, ethernet, video, wifi, usb 3, nVME, etc you need a large amount of work.

THis is slashdot and people here feel this is 1990 where an OS can run easily on any CPU as the CPU just does math so it must be some crazy conspiracy by Microsoft to do evil. It is 2017 and the CPU is silicon on a chip to compete with the ipad. It does I/O, video, ethernet, usb 3, chipset features, raid, and lots more. These need drivers to work.

Not saying MS is a saint here. Just saying if AMD doesn't want to work on it how is Microsoft the bad guy here? My i7 4770K does my raid, it does my usb 3, it does some of my ethernet, it has my memory controller. In the past these were seperate chips on the motherboard. Today these are inside the CPU.

No others have noticed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

CPUs are whole silicon on a chip platform. This isn't 1990 anymore where they just do math and nothing special from the operating system is needed anymore. Thanks to Tablets and mobile the new thing is to put everything on the CPU.

No others have noticed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

CPUs are whole silicon on a chip platform. This isn't 1990 anymore where they just do math and nothing special from the operating system is needed anymore. Thanks to Tablets and mobile the new thing is to put everything on the CPU.

Seriously, when Metallica's latest album came out and I heard this song, the first thing I thought was that there needed to be another Matrix movie, and that this song needed to play when the credits rolled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m46Z0-HXySo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?... Full 1995 Showtime movie that deviates from the plot of the original story.

It would be cool is future BMW have blinkers, because all the ones I see on the road do not!

The some with blinkers. Their owner just don't keep up on maintenance.

I haven't noticed the ratio of junk to awesome being any worse than what I hear on the radio. If you haven't found good indie music on youtube, you haven't looked very hard. Since I am an old fart, and miss the 80s, I have been ecstatic to see the synthwave subculture finding an audience, and inspiring new bands, Some of which are really good . This is something that would have never happened under the old distribution system.

I, for one, welcome the chances of sub cultures to flourish with massive connectivity, even if it did give us Bronies.

You obviously have never taken the express bus, which is an extra $70 per month, a larger, comfortable bus, and everyone on board are working class professionals. Most people on the early morning express bus are snoozing from getting up early, and the commute home is often quiet because people are snoozing from a long day at work. I spend my commute time reading The Wall Street Journal in the morning and an ebook in the afternoon because I'm paying someone else to drive.

Cool. Around where I live, the bus (which doesn't come close to my house but does have a dropoff close to my workplace) has plenty of people who just shout whatever comes to mind all days long and bus drivers who have learned to just pretend it's not happening.

On the other hand, you can see some great fights on the bus. Epic Beard Man happened right on my route.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Amateurs. Balmer had Domokun.

Wow that is amazing, and all I do is beat the fuckups in my business with a barbwire wrapped baseball bat who I affectionately call "Lucille". Cheap, effective and bad ass!

Obligatory shout out to my nephew... who cut his artistic and video creativity with Club Penguin...
One of his classics here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZx2zYk0JsU/