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GNOME 2.0 Developer Platform Beta

ambrosius27 writes: "To quote from Jeff Waugh's announcement: "The API frozen Developer Platform Beta, 'Everyone's Excited and Confused', is ready for your porting pleasure!" You can find the full announcement on Gnotices. The GNOME developers have been hard at work. Feel free to download, create/port applications, and, most of all, send in nicely detailed bug reports!"

204 comments

  1. Bye bye Windows! by coolmdriver · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Hopefully this will be a step closer to a consumer linux desktop.

    1. Re:Bye bye Windows! by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1
      THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ By The WIPO Troll, $Revision: 1.12 $

      Why have I been receiving emails from CmdrTaco, in which he seems to be speaking in some kind of code language?

      Whenever Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda gets bored (and who wouldn't, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the Slashdot database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual orgies with him. How he determines this is anyone's guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with the letter P in it, you're in trouble.
      So this time, he found you. Lucky you.
      CmdrTaco's code language is relatively easy to decipher. He prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo to evade the watchful (but relatively stupid) eye of Slashdot's parent corporation, VA Software. CmdrTaco's "Commander" is, of course, his penis -- a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants that only comes out in the presence of other men or at the beck and call of CmdrTaco's own right hand. His "Taco bells" are the shriveled testes that droop beneath his Commander, and his "Taco sauce" is his, well, jizz. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means when he asks you to "ring his Taco bells" or "taste his gourmet Taco sauce."
      Lastly, there is a practice he refers to as "Taco-snotting" and the more shocking "circle-snot."

      Good Lord. What is "Taco-snotting?"

      "Taco-snotting" is the term used by CmdrTaco to refer to the practice of sucking the penis of a homosexual man (or unwilling heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumored to prefer rape), then blowing the semen out his nose onto his partner's (victim's) face and body. A long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTaco's face, dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, "Taco-snotting."
      A "circle-snot" is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel, and Homos get together and Taco-snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum -- spooging their jizz-snot all over each other's faces and pasty, white bodies, until they're covered head to toe with each other's man juice. This can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limo service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.
      To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The whole group then proceeds to snot each other's spunk and whip each other's pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

      Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?

      Hopefully.
      You most likely forgot to uncheck the "Willing to Taco-snot" checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad, and he's probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube. There's no escaping a geek in heat, so it's probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTaco's sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to "Willing to Taco-snot." Maybe he'll ignore you. Probably not.

      I can't stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

      If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge... oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

      Have you ever been Taco-Snotted?

      Unfortunately, yes. I first met CmdrTaco at an Open Source Convention. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some "gourmet Tacos," but when I got there, he jumped me and tied me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his "Commander" out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm... then he snotted my own milky-white jizz back onto my face, into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.
      CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, "Open Sauce" -- man sauce) buddies over to continue the twisted snotfest. Linux Torvalds raped my ass with his "monolithic kernel," and Anal Cox used his "network stack" in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice in my defenseless body. Michael was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about "all those Censorware freaks out to get him."
      How did you finally escape, you ask? After about 16 hours of countless homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant; I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door. I'm just glad I survived the ordeal. These geeks had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads -- I could've easily been drowned!

      That's horrible. Does "Taco-snotting" have anything to do with CmdrTaco's "special taco"?

      No, that's a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. CmdrTaco is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):
      You may be wondering what CmdrTaco's "special taco" is. You will be wishing that you hadn't been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his "special taco", CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim.
      After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTaco's nefarious sexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victim's ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved.
      Completely different, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that CmdrTaco is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

      Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a paedophile, not a homosexual.

      Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual paedophile. He's also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Jon Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesn't involve himself in circle-snots. Mr. Katz usually engages in a game called " Katz juicy-douching" with his harem of little-boy slaves: a vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boy's urine (forced out of them with a pair of pliers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then squirting and slathering the goo all over himself, and the little boy's chained-up and naked bodies. If he's in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag and just squirt it from his ass onto his boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pliers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them for the rest of their lives.
      As I already said, Mr. Katz is also a zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys aren't enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goat's anus. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goat's small, bean-like turds.

      ...Are you getting hard writing this?

      Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

      No, thanks. I'm already CmdrTaco's boi toi.

      ________________________________________
      READER COMMENTS

      1. Fucking hilarious too bad it didnt get a 5:Funny (Score:-1, Offtopic)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.02 19:01 (#2644105)

        this is good shit man

      2. Re:Taco-snotting@Home! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
        by Dark_Cobra87 on 2001.12.01 23:03 (#2642180)

        Oops, forgot to check that Taco-snot option...

      3. Re:Fuck Linux! Fuck him hard! (Score:-1)
        by Fecal Troll Matter on 2001.12.01 20:55 (#2641791)

        Mmmmmmm, Taco Sauce...

        Sig (appended to the end of comments you post, 120 chars)

      4. Look (Score:-1)
        by ArchieBunker on 2001.12.01 20:19 (#2641679)

        I love trolling but this shit is getting old, fast. At least start mixing them up a little bit. How about the 'How OSM was Freed' series?
        http://www.naawp.org/

      5. Re:Congratulations! You have been WIPO'd!! (Score:0)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.01 8:37 (#2640602)

        Stop posting this! I've got hangover and Taco Snotting doesn't make me feel any better.

        I'm really glad that Taco Snotting is illegal here in Europe.

      6. Re:Snot me baby, one more time! (Score:0)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.30 1:01 (#2634213)

        Get a life you loser! Don't you have anything better to do than insult CmdrTaco and the gay community? We are not perverts, we are human beings just like you. So give it a rest!

      7. Re:Hello, perdida!!! Won't you snot my face tonigh (Score:-1)
        by perdida on on 2001.11.27 14:13 (#2618764)

        Shut up you asshole.

        I am not great, I am merely adequate. I live in adequacy.

      8. Go back to Russia. (Score:0)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.26 22:22 (#2616035)

        You weiner trool!

      9. Re:The Taco-Snotting FAQ Rides Again!! (Updated so (Score:0)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.25 9:14 (#2609574)

        try to find a pic of actual "taco-snotting"! fucking funny it would be! so go to gay porn sites day in and day out until you find a man giving another man a blowjob that has jizz coming out of his nose and mouth. by the way, keep up the good work

      10. Re:Snotting another first!! (Score:0)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 12:18 (#2603370)

        WIPO, this is getting waaaay old, either drop it or revise it.... there've been no updates for days now...

        CmdrTaco

      11. Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.22 17:28 (#2600815)

        A truly excellent and very humourous troll indeed!
        However...

        To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie often join in, dressed in black Gestapo uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves.

        Black GeStaPo uniforms? The GeStaPo (Geheime Staatspolizei - Secret State Police) wore civilian clothes (although there are reports on them occasionally using Allgemeine SS uniforms in occupied territories).

        I seriously doubt that perverted individuals like CmdrTaco et al would have the good taste to ever wear the outstandingly beautiful black Waffen SS uniforms! Please update the FAQ accordingly.

        • Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
          by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 4:06 (#2602610)

          Actually, it appears you are both wrong!! Ah ha!! I think our boy WIPO was thinking of the Allgemeine SS uniforms. Waffen SS were grey.

      12. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:49 (#2594325)

        oh yeah, you say you have masturbated only 2 times to this post. well, by the time it takes for me to get through reading it, i usually end up masturbated 5 to 6 times, 10 to 12 if i have the goatse.cx homepage loaded up and am looking at it side by side with the slashdot page. my keyboard, hands, mouse, monitor, the underside of my desk and around the floor under my desk are cum soaked and sticky with the man smell i know and love.

      13. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:0)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:41 (#2594311)

        for version 2 you should make a total re-write of the cod...errr...text and add some details about cmdrtaco and the homo-gang's happenings with their coworkers (osdn?) and all of the gay revelry they enjoy and promote. by the way, did i just see cmdrtaco on television promoting the nax hair removal system? i guess after using vaseline in and around his ass he grew quite a ponytail and it had to be removed somehow...ouch!

      14. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
        by TRoLLaXoR on 2001.11.21 3:59 (#2594191)

        WIPO, do you notice how few comments you get for anything you write/post/spam nowadays?

        -Trollaxor

      15. Jon-Katz docking (Score:-1)
        by sales_worldwide on 2001.11.20 11:53 (#2588488)

        You forgot to mention Jon Katz's "docking" games, where he places his chopper head to head with another chap, and rolls the other guys foreskin over his own circumcised end ("docking"), providing him with fantasies of actually having his own forskin ...
        "Making linux GPL was the best thing I ever did" - Torvalds. I'd hate to see the worst thing...

      16. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1)
        by Fucky the troll on 2001.11.20 11:28 (#2588446)

        Woah! When did the WIPO troll get freed? And how the fuck did I miss it?

        Excellent FP, sir.

        This is a sig virus. Please put me in your sig

      17. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1, Troll)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.20 11:04 (#2588407)

        omg that is crapflooding material if i ever saw it!!!!!! and u got a first post!!!! whoot to the wipo troll!!!

      18. GW, please.... (Score:0)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 9:03 (#2583756)

        GW...you know we love every hair on your 27 acre ass... and I, for one, would never do anything untowards your graceful demeanor. And you probably have several friends that would love to help you do the bear dance all over my face if I so much as spelled your name wrong. And you know I'd defend your Constitutional right to defame God in heaven. I'd even help fund your education, should you ever decide to take that route. Hell, I'd buy you a tall tepid bear-whiz beer if you were here with me, right now!

        But. ...if you can't find another topic, I'm gonna step over your dead mother's grave and kick your assuredly anesthetitized butt clear across the playground.

        Now go stick your shaved head back down inside the woman's toilet, and just to show there's no hard feelings, I'll jump in the tow-truck and drive right over to help you pull it right out...ok?

        thanks

      19. Re:Help me Taco-Snotters!! (Score:-1)
        by mark knopfler 69 on 2001.11.19 8:25 (#2583695)

        I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU SIR. FOR ONE THING, THE E-MAIL FROM CMDRTACO DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH GRAMMATICAL AND SPELLING MISTAKES. Let's be realistic here, CmdrTaco usually types with one hand, and since he is shaking from jacking off his aim on the keyboard isn't too good. Those e-mails were a little too well written. Sorry boy, you'll have to do better.

      20. Re: What the hell is "taco snotting"? (Score:-1)
        by WeatherTroll on 2001.11.19 8:14 (#2583667)

        You should update this to say VA Software instead of VA Linux.

      21. YOU ARE WINNER (Score:1)
        by smackmonkey on 2001.11.19 7:06 (#2583510)

        Crackhead moderators: this is +5, Hilarious material.

        --
        CNN declares War on Islam!
        Left-wing America declares War on its Civil Liberties!

      22. Re:On Taco-Snotting 1.9 (Score:0)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 5:40 (#2583336)

        This was funny the first 100 times. Now it is getting boring!

      23. Digusting and Shameful (Score:-1)
        by egg troll on 2001.11.18 22:27 (#2582054)

        Having masturbated *twice* to this post, I'm still incredibly aroused! Come over for a Taco Snot. I'll be wearing my crotchless Clifford the Big Red Dog outfit!!

        For more info check out this /. article

      24. IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:-1, Flamebait)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:03 (#2580822)

        add more links to goatse and to cowboineal's site to make it better. a link to rotten.com would be nice too

        • Re:IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:0)
          by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:18 (#2580832)

          and a link to michael's site and to jon katz's site if he has one and homo's site. i dont know what else to say. maybe a few links to phallic.org they have nice penis pictures! a link to the planet quake site or whatever. really make the reader feel this faq really answers their questions. oh yeah, and when you talk about cmdrtaco snotting you, say he brought you to "orgasm after sweaty orgasm". describe it more is all i'm saying. and use more italics and bolding! and when you talk about jon katz shitting or whatever have a link to fecal japan on rotten.com

          other wise a great job wipo troll! keep up the good work!

      25. Re:CmdrTaco's filthy secret! (Score:-1)
        by Wil Wheaton on 2001.11.18 6:41 (#2580438)

        Hi. Let's be buddies.. butt buddies.
        --
        WIL WHEATON DOT NET

      26. WIPO speaks the truth (Score:-1)
        by dead_puppy on 2001.11.18 5:33 (#2580342)

        Here is an e-mail I received a week ago:

        From: malda@slashdot.org
        To: puppy_dead@hotmail.com
        Subject: were where you last friday? :(

        I thought we where supposed to meet at Backdoor's at 8-ish, sugar-lips? You could've at least told me that you could'nt make it! I was even in my favorite pink skirt for you, honey-cup... next time, you could be more considarite and tell me you cant come... bastard.

        --
        CmdrTaco (malda@slashdot.org)

        You finding Ling-Ling's head?

      27. Taco snotting is WRONG!!! (Score:-1)
        by Big_Ass_Spork on 2001.11.18 4:53 (#2580300)

        I do it wrong

        Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.

        Massaging my nutsack she....

        WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!

        Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass. [goatse.cx]

        "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"

        "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"

        I DO IT WRONG!!!!

        ---
        All your Sporks are belong to Big_Ass_Spork! What you say?! All your Sporks are belo... forget it...

      28. Rob Malda Dead at age 25! (Score:-1)
        by j0nkatz on 2001.11.17 22:54 (#2579596)

        I just heard some sad news on the radio -- famous queerbait Rob Malda was found dead in his Holland home this morning. The details were a bit hazy, but it seems that he drowned in jizz while Taco Snotting his friend Hemos. I'm sure everyone in the /. community will miss him -- even if you didn't enjoy his queer antics and boring ass website, there's no denying his contributions to the homosesual cultural development, particularly in the areas of Taco snotting. Truly an American icon.

        I wanna Open Source sex so it won't be worth a shit either.

      29. TACO-SNOTTING is really Donkey-Punching (Score:-1, Troll)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.15 6:38 (#2567601)

        No no no, the correct term for that is "donkey-punch". I have eye-witnessed this amazing eye-popping event demonstrated on unsuspecting hose-monsters by my frat brothers in the past.. . :-)

      30. Re:the effect of knowlege laws... (Score:1)
        by AbsoluteRelativity on 2001.11.15 5:31 (#2567457)

        The WIPO Troll
        Slashdot and the Karma Lottery - News for uber monkeys, by uber monkeys.

      31. Re:Taco-Snotting (Score:-1, Troll)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:27 (#2557632)

        Oh, man that's just sick !

      32. HOW DO I GET AN ANONYMOUS PROXY? (Score:-1, Troll)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:03 (#2557604)

        TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET AN ANONYMOUS proxy please WIPO Troll. Maybe later i will join you in a snotting at my place. ;P

      33. Re:Taco-Snottage!?!?!? (Score:-1, Offtopic)
        by vikool on 2001.11.13 7:43 (#2557495)

        what is this bull shit,i feel offened that some people feel so so senseless to post stuff like these esp when such a tragic incident has occured

      34. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1)
        by I.T.R.A.R.K. on 2001.11.11 22:38 (#2551890)

        Where the fuck do I sign up?!

        - I throw rocks at retarded kids

        "Adequacy.org: Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."

      35. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Troll)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 21:53 (#2551753)

        this shit is hilarious..keep up the good work.

      36. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
        by rockwood on 2001.11.11 21:49 (#2551746)

        OMG! That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard! WHo in their right mind would sit down and waste the time to construct such a replusive story. I guess I'll be skipping lunch and dinner today.. and possibly tomorrow also. The game doesn't affect reality. Reality affects the game.

      37. Re:Ban this! It's disgusting!! (Score:0)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 14:43 (#2550701)

        dude, this is crap-flood material if i ever saw it.
        duuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeeeeee.

      38. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Flamebait)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 8:16 (#2550266)

        horny_rob_6969@hotmail.com

        Ah, so that's what the alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.horny-rob newsgroup is about!

      39. MOD THIS UP PLEASE!!! (Score:-1)
        by egg troll on 2001.11.11 5:34 (#2550024)

        +5, Arousing

        For more info check out this /. article

      40. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:39 (#2549891)

        WINNER>

      41. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:37 (#2549887)

        I love you. Why do you use your bitchslapped account, rather than signing up for a new account to post at +1 before getting bitchslapped by the censors here? I guess I should speak for myself, but I don't want to log out and lose all my slashdot customization properties, nor do I want to lose my 50 karma yet.

      42. Re:On Taco-Snotting (Score:0)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.09 9:19 (#2542412)

        you fucking rock! right down to the expanded cvs id!

        WIPO trolls > linux

      ________________________________________

      $Id: tacosnotting.html,v 1.12 2001/12/02 20:07:02 wipo Exp $
      --

      J. Wipo Troll, Esq.
      Crapflooder Associates
      Slashdot.org

    2. Re:Bye bye Windows! by JonKatz+on · · Score: -1

      Please, please, please Taco-snot me. I know I would love it almost as much as fucking young boys. Pleadingly, JonKatz

    3. Re:Bye bye Windows! by The+Kenneth · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      haha i just say an old post that i thought was funny: Don't tell me what to fucking do (Score:0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 28, @02:56PM (#2490038) I'll just reply to you, then I won't be replying to the original poster. Are we happy?
      hahah thats hil-arious! congrats poster you did an a+ job! buttface.

    4. Re:Bye bye Windows! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      Yes, Gnome 2.0 will make every single person with windows install remove windows and install linux. Fucking moron

    5. Re:Bye bye Windows! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      I want some Taco-snot! Where can I get some?

    6. Re:Bye bye Windows! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That may be true, but have you made love to a wombat today?

  2. Better Development of Slashdot moderation? by The+Turd+Report · · Score: -1
    The Slashdot Staff: Editors or Janitors?

    Slashdot claims to have several editors on its staff. This is not true. Editors are people who edit. What does it mean to edit? Well, according to 'm-w.com' to edit means: to prepare for publication or public presentation. Does the Slashdot staff do this? Hardly. The readers who submit stories do this; they prepare the stories for slashdot. The staff just cuts and pastes them onto the front page. Editors also check for spelling and grammar. Editors also try to show both sides of a story; the Slashdot staff is some of the most biased people on the net. Just look at the icon for Microsoft posts to see this bias in action.
    So, if they are not editors, what are they? They are janitors. Janitors clean up and put things back in place. The Slashdot staff cleans up troll vomit and crap floods. The janitor at my old high school was a big track star 'back in the day' but now he is just an old fool that the kids made fun of. He never really got it. He thought he ran the school just because he had the keys to the front door. It is the same with the Slashdot staff, they used to be important, but now they are just old fools who can't even remember what stories they posted just a few days back. The Slashdot staff also believes that they run the site, but it is OSDN that runs the show. The Slashdot staff doesn't see or hear the kids laughing behind their backs.

    Please discuss

    1. Re:Better Development of Slashdot moderation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not that I don't agree with you, but starting your piece with a dictionary definition just screams "school report."

    2. Re:Better Development of Slashdot moderation? by VALinux · · Score: -1

      on the other hand, the fact that he is acquainted with what a dictionary is makes him infinitely more qualified than the slashdot janitors/editors.

  3. I wonder... by Sorthum · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    If RMS is still following the GNOME project even after losing the election... campaign promises and all that...

    If he had won, this might be one of the last GNOMEs with reasonable licensing...

  4. Here it comes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The 1 billionth comment posted on Slashdot! And I am the one to post it Thank you!

  5. Here's a major bug: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    I can't run it in a DOS window.

  6. Confused by PineHall · · Score: 5, Funny
    The API frozen Developer Platform Beta, 'Everyone's Excited and Confused'

    I am now confused. Should I be excited?

    1. Re:Confused by gehrehmee · · Score: 3, Informative
      They revamped the Airport completely
      now it looks just like a nightclub,
      Everyone's excited and confused .
      Baby, check this out I've got something to say,
      Man it's so loud in here!
      When they start the love machine and I can love again,
      I'll remember what it was.

      They Might Be Giants - Man it's so Loud in Here
      --
      "You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help" -- Calvin
  7. Frozen api? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    To access zipped files I use unzip, but to access a frozen api, is the software called "unfreeze" or "thaw"?

    1. Re:Frozen api? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      You are kidding, or a fucking moron.

  8. Some Linux truths.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Let's have a close look at the costs involved when running a Linux system.

    An important factor in Linux' cost is its maintenance. Linux requires a *lot* of maintenance, work doable only by the relatively few high-paid Linux administrators that put themselves - of course willingly - at a great place in the market. Linux seems to be needing maintenance continuously, to keep it from breaking down.

    Add to this the cost of loss of data. Linux' native file system, EXT2FS, is known to lose data like a firehose spouts water when the file system isn't unmounted properly. Other unix file systems are much more tolerant towards unexpected crashes. An example is the FreeBSD file system, which with soft updates enabled, performance-wise blows EXT2FS out of the water, and doesn't have the negative drawback of extreme data loss in case of a system breakdown.

    According to Linux advocates, an alternative to EXT2FS would be ReiserFS. Unfortunately, ReiserFS is still in beta stage. This means it is not intended for production use (although according to many Linux advocates this shouldn't be a problem, which makes me wonder how (little) valuable they find your data).

    The other proposed 'solution', EXT3FS, is nothing more than an ugly hack to put journaling into the file system. All the drawbacks of the ancient EXT2FS file system remain in EXT3FS, for the sake of 'forward- and backward compatibility'. This is interesting, considering that the DOS heritage in the Windows 9x/ME series was considered a very bad thing by the Linux community, even though it provided what could be called one of the best examples of compatibility, ever. When it's about Linux, compatibility constraints don't seem to be that much of a problem for Linux advocates.

    Back to Linux' cost. Factor in also the fact that crashes happen much more often on Linux than on other unices. On other unices, crashes usually are caused by external sources like power outages. Crashes in Linux are a regular thing, and nobody seems to know what causes them, internally. Linux advocates try to hide this fact by denying crashes ever happen. Instead, they have frequent "hardware problems".

    The steep learning curve compared to about any other operating system out there is a major factor in Linux' cost. The system is a mix of features from all kinds of unices, but not one of them is implemented right. A Linux user has to live with badly coded tools which have low performance, mangle data seemingly at random and are not in line with their specification. On top of that a lot of them spit out the most childish and unprofessional messages, indicating that they were created by 14-year olds with too much time, no talent and a bad attitude.

    I could go on and on and on, but the conclusion is clear. Linux is not an option for any one who seeks a professional OS with high performance, scalability, stability, adherence to standards, etc.

  9. More information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Yes, I know this is blatant karma whoring, but you can get more information about this here if anyone's interested.

  10. In relation to Ximian Gnome by Glenn2372 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Okay, this is coming from a lesser-experience Linux user so don't flame me TOO hard, but how does this tie (if at all) with Ximian's version of Gnome?

    I'm really liking Evolution, and while their desktop is pretty, it seems bare in comparision to KDE's solution. To be able to port more stuff over to Gnome (and Ximian's GNOME), would be wonderful in my eyes.

    Now, granted, I may be completely confused and these don't mix at all, so in that case, just tell me to shut up and I'll go crawl back in my hole.

    1. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by fib11235 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ximian takes a stable Gnome release, and builds a product around it.

      Assume that they will need a fair amount of time to wait for Gnome 2.0 to stabalize, and get there 2.0 version out. I would guese at least 3-4 months before some beta product is announced, and at least 6 months untill they switch over.

      I think Gnome 2.0 will generate substantial interest in getting applications ported over. That's the real ticket.

    2. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by GrenDel+Fuego · · Score: 4, Informative

      Gnome 1.4 was released April 4th of this year. Ximian Gnome 1.4 was released April 24th. (Dates from Slashdot).

      Since Ximian employes a lot of the main Gnome developers, they're probably working on their product as gnome is testing, so the release time shouldn't be that far off from the Gnome 2.0 release date.

    3. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by frantzdb · · Score: 2
      What do you mean by ``it seems bare in comparision to KDE's solution''?

      You can always run KDE applications on a Gnome desktop. (Similarly you can always run Gnome applications on a KDE dekstop.) If your complaint isn't a lack of applications, what is it you'd like to see?

      --Ben

    4. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by stipe42 · · Score: 1

      I've got a counter question then. I read quite a lot about Linux before I actually took the step of installing it and trying to use it instead of Windows. Before the install, I had assumed that Gnome apps and KDE apps only ran on Gnome and KDE respectively. Obviously this is not the case. What then is the difference between KDE apps and Gnome apps? Just an idle question. stipe42 www.pcwatch.com

    5. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by frantzdb · · Score: 2
      Technically, the difference is that each desktop uses it's own set of libraries. This allows programs to easily have a similar look and feel and to work well together within a given desktop. In the end, all Gnome and KDE applications are really just like any other programs; they will run as long as they have an X server to talk to.

      --Ben

    6. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think he means, he likes the KDE desktop better, but likes Evolution.

      As many of us do, just run Evolution in KDE. I might switch back to kmail is fixed for IMAP in KDE 3. I don't really need much of Evolution's features except for email+address book, which kmail/kab has always been successful in.

    7. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by Afrosheen · · Score: 0, Troll

      Stable Gnome release? I didn't know that existed! Hats off guys!!!

    8. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by johnnyb · · Score: 2

      This is mostly true. Some applications have additional functionality if the panel or other servers are running.

    9. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then 3 more months before they learn to spell.

    10. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by frantzdb · · Score: 2

      Keep in mind, Evolution is componentized so you only wind up using the resources for the components you use. In your case, Email and Address book.

      Each to their own taist, though.

      --Ben

    11. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      " Keep in mind, Evolution is componentized so you only wind up using the resources for the components you use. In your case, Email and Address book. "

      Yes, good point, but the only gnome app I really use is evolution, so if I could replace it with something else that works great with IMAP, and has some kind of intregrated address book, and doesn't rely on a whole bunch of dependencies, that'd be great :).

      Well, hell, I have debian, so dependencies aren't such a problem, but it still feels icky to have gtkhtml, libcamel0, bonobo, gconf, libart2, libbonobo-conf, libbonobo2, libdb3, libcamel0, libesd0, libgal18, libgconf11, libglade-gnome0, libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2, libglade-gnome0, libgnome-pilot1, libgnome-vfs0, libgnome32, libgnomeprint15, libgnomesupport0, libgnomeui32, liboaf0, liborbit0, libpisock4, libpopt0, libsasl7, libwrap0, af, and evolution-dev installed just for evolution. ( if you're wondering, these are the depenencies than dpkg lists for evolution, that aren't used in any gtk apps that I use, and not used in kde (like libxml2 is).

      I'm sure people running GNOME would feel the same way about running only one or two GNOME apps.

      " Each to their own taist, though. "

      You mean taste? ;)

    12. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Stable GNOME is an oxymoronic statement.

    13. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't Netscape 4 come as a statically linked superbinary? You could stick with that.

    14. Re:In relation to Ximian Gnome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suppose I could. How is IMAP support in it?
      And what about mozilla?

  11. Logo Change? by The+Great+Wakka · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps for GNOME 2, they should change it to a RIGHT foot instead... just a thought.

    --
    Everything is mainstream now.
    1. Re:Logo Change? by rbgaynor · · Score: 1

      I suppose we could call it Goofy Foot Gnome

      --
      "Good things don't end with eum, they end with mania or teria." - H. Simpson
    2. Re:Logo Change? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 1


      > Perhaps for GNOME 2, they should change it to a RIGHT foot instead... just a thought.

      No, it's going to have two big toes.

      --
      Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
    3. Re:Logo Change? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they move to a right foot, there won't be a 'G' embedded in the logo.

    4. Re:Logo Change? by The+Great+Wakka · · Score: 1

      Heh... Never saw that before.

      --
      Everything is mainstream now.
    5. Re:Logo Change? by fehlschlag · · Score: 1

      It is a RIGHT foot! ...from the perspective of the crushed Windows UI

    6. Re:Logo Change? by johnw · · Score: 1

      It is a right foot - you're just looking at it from below.

    7. Re:Logo Change? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it actually is a left foot, see: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/bugzilla.gnome.org/bugs. jpg

  12. I like to WIPO it! by The+WIPO+Troll · · Score: -1
    THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ By The WIPO Troll, $Revision: 1.12 $

    Why have I been receiving emails from CmdrTaco, in which he seems to be speaking in some kind of code language?

    Whenever Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda gets bored (and who wouldn't, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the Slashdot database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual orgies with him. How he determines this is anyone's guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with the letter P in it, you're in trouble.
    So this time, he found you. Lucky you.
    CmdrTaco's code language is relatively easy to decipher. He prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo to evade the watchful (but relatively stupid) eye of Slashdot's parent corporation, VA Software. CmdrTaco's "Commander" is, of course, his penis -- a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants that only comes out in the presence of other men or at the beck and call of CmdrTaco's own right hand. His "Taco bells" are the shriveled testes that droop beneath his Commander, and his "Taco sauce" is his, well, jizz. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means when he asks you to "ring his Taco bells" or "taste his gourmet Taco sauce."
    Lastly, there is a practice he refers to as "Taco-snotting" and the more shocking "circle-snot."

    Good Lord. What is "Taco-snotting?"

    "Taco-snotting" is the term used by CmdrTaco to refer to the practice of sucking the penis of a homosexual man (or unwilling heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumored to prefer rape), then blowing the semen out his nose onto his partner's (victim's) face and body. A long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTaco's face, dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, "Taco-snotting."
    A "circle-snot" is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel, and Homos get together and Taco-snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum -- spooging their jizz-snot all over each other's faces and pasty, white bodies, until they're covered head to toe with each other's man juice. This can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limo service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.
    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The whole group then proceeds to snot each other's spunk and whip each other's pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

    Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?

    Hopefully.
    You most likely forgot to uncheck the "Willing to Taco-snot" checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad, and he's probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube. There's no escaping a geek in heat, so it's probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTaco's sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to "Willing to Taco-snot." Maybe he'll ignore you. Probably not.

    I can't stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

    If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge... oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

    Have you ever been Taco-Snotted?

    Unfortunately, yes. I first met CmdrTaco at an Open Source Convention. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some "gourmet Tacos," but when I got there, he jumped me and tied me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his "Commander" out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm... then he snotted my own milky-white jizz back onto my face, into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.
    CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, "Open Sauce" -- man sauce) buddies over to continue the twisted snotfest. Linux Torvalds raped my ass with his "monolithic kernel," and Anal Cox used his "network stack" in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice in my defenseless body. Michael was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about "all those Censorware freaks out to get him."
    How did you finally escape, you ask? After about 16 hours of countless homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant; I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door. I'm just glad I survived the ordeal. These geeks had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads -- I could've easily been drowned!

    That's horrible. Does "Taco-snotting" have anything to do with CmdrTaco's "special taco"?

    No, that's a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. CmdrTaco is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):
    You may be wondering what CmdrTaco's "special taco" is. You will be wishing that you hadn't been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his "special taco", CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim.
    After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTaco's nefarious sexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victim's ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved.
    Completely different, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that CmdrTaco is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

    Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a paedophile, not a homosexual.

    Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual paedophile. He's also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Jon Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesn't involve himself in circle-snots. Mr. Katz usually engages in a game called " Katz juicy-douching" with his harem of little-boy slaves: a vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boy's urine (forced out of them with a pair of pliers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then squirting and slathering the goo all over himself, and the little boy's chained-up and naked bodies. If he's in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag and just squirt it from his ass onto his boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pliers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them for the rest of their lives.
    As I already said, Mr. Katz is also a zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys aren't enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goat's anus. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goat's small, bean-like turds.

    ...Are you getting hard writing this?

    Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

    No, thanks. I'm already CmdrTaco's boi toi.

    ________________________________________
    READER COMMENTS

    1. Fucking hilarious too bad it didnt get a 5:Funny (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.02 19:01 (#2644105)

      this is good shit man

    2. Re:Taco-snotting@Home! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by Dark_Cobra87 on 2001.12.01 23:03 (#2642180)

      Oops, forgot to check that Taco-snot option...

    3. Re:Fuck Linux! Fuck him hard! (Score:-1)
      by Fecal Troll Matter on 2001.12.01 20:55 (#2641791)

      Mmmmmmm, Taco Sauce...

      Sig (appended to the end of comments you post, 120 chars)

    4. Look (Score:-1)
      by ArchieBunker on 2001.12.01 20:19 (#2641679)

      I love trolling but this shit is getting old, fast. At least start mixing them up a little bit. How about the 'How OSM was Freed' series?
      http://www.naawp.org/

    5. Re:Congratulations! You have been WIPO'd!! (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.12.01 8:37 (#2640602)

      Stop posting this! I've got hangover and Taco Snotting doesn't make me feel any better.

      I'm really glad that Taco Snotting is illegal here in Europe.

    6. Re:Snot me baby, one more time! (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.30 1:01 (#2634213)

      Get a life you loser! Don't you have anything better to do than insult CmdrTaco and the gay community? We are not perverts, we are human beings just like you. So give it a rest!

    7. Re:Hello, perdida!!! Won't you snot my face tonigh (Score:-1)
      by perdida on on 2001.11.27 14:13 (#2618764)

      Shut up you asshole.

      I am not great, I am merely adequate. I live in adequacy.

    8. Go back to Russia. (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.26 22:22 (#2616035)

      You weiner trool!

    9. Re:The Taco-Snotting FAQ Rides Again!! (Updated so (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.25 9:14 (#2609574)

      try to find a pic of actual "taco-snotting"! fucking funny it would be! so go to gay porn sites day in and day out until you find a man giving another man a blowjob that has jizz coming out of his nose and mouth. by the way, keep up the good work

    10. Re:Snotting another first!! (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 12:18 (#2603370)

      WIPO, this is getting waaaay old, either drop it or revise it.... there've been no updates for days now...

      CmdrTaco

    11. Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.22 17:28 (#2600815)

      A truly excellent and very humourous troll indeed!
      However...

      To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie often join in, dressed in black Gestapo uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves.

      Black GeStaPo uniforms? The GeStaPo (Geheime Staatspolizei - Secret State Police) wore civilian clothes (although there are reports on them occasionally using Allgemeine SS uniforms in occupied territories).

      I seriously doubt that perverted individuals like CmdrTaco et al would have the good taste to ever wear the outstandingly beautiful black Waffen SS uniforms! Please update the FAQ accordingly.

      • Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 4:06 (#2602610)

        Actually, it appears you are both wrong!! Ah ha!! I think our boy WIPO was thinking of the Allgemeine SS uniforms. Waffen SS were grey.

    12. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:49 (#2594325)

      oh yeah, you say you have masturbated only 2 times to this post. well, by the time it takes for me to get through reading it, i usually end up masturbated 5 to 6 times, 10 to 12 if i have the goatse.cx homepage loaded up and am looking at it side by side with the slashdot page. my keyboard, hands, mouse, monitor, the underside of my desk and around the floor under my desk are cum soaked and sticky with the man smell i know and love.

    13. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:41 (#2594311)

      for version 2 you should make a total re-write of the cod...errr...text and add some details about cmdrtaco and the homo-gang's happenings with their coworkers (osdn?) and all of the gay revelry they enjoy and promote. by the way, did i just see cmdrtaco on television promoting the nax hair removal system? i guess after using vaseline in and around his ass he grew quite a ponytail and it had to be removed somehow...ouch!

    14. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
      by TRoLLaXoR on 2001.11.21 3:59 (#2594191)

      WIPO, do you notice how few comments you get for anything you write/post/spam nowadays?

      -Trollaxor

    15. Jon-Katz docking (Score:-1)
      by sales_worldwide on 2001.11.20 11:53 (#2588488)

      You forgot to mention Jon Katz's "docking" games, where he places his chopper head to head with another chap, and rolls the other guys foreskin over his own circumcised end ("docking"), providing him with fantasies of actually having his own forskin ...
      "Making linux GPL was the best thing I ever did" - Torvalds. I'd hate to see the worst thing...

    16. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1)
      by Fucky the troll on 2001.11.20 11:28 (#2588446)

      Woah! When did the WIPO troll get freed? And how the fuck did I miss it?

      Excellent FP, sir.

      This is a sig virus. Please put me in your sig

    17. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.20 11:04 (#2588407)

      omg that is crapflooding material if i ever saw it!!!!!! and u got a first post!!!! whoot to the wipo troll!!!

    18. GW, please.... (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 9:03 (#2583756)

      GW...you know we love every hair on your 27 acre ass... and I, for one, would never do anything untowards your graceful demeanor. And you probably have several friends that would love to help you do the bear dance all over my face if I so much as spelled your name wrong. And you know I'd defend your Constitutional right to defame God in heaven. I'd even help fund your education, should you ever decide to take that route. Hell, I'd buy you a tall tepid bear-whiz beer if you were here with me, right now!

      But. ...if you can't find another topic, I'm gonna step over your dead mother's grave and kick your assuredly anesthetitized butt clear across the playground.

      Now go stick your shaved head back down inside the woman's toilet, and just to show there's no hard feelings, I'll jump in the tow-truck and drive right over to help you pull it right out...ok?

      thanks

    19. Re:Help me Taco-Snotters!! (Score:-1)
      by mark knopfler 69 on 2001.11.19 8:25 (#2583695)

      I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU SIR. FOR ONE THING, THE E-MAIL FROM CMDRTACO DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH GRAMMATICAL AND SPELLING MISTAKES. Let's be realistic here, CmdrTaco usually types with one hand, and since he is shaking from jacking off his aim on the keyboard isn't too good. Those e-mails were a little too well written. Sorry boy, you'll have to do better.

    20. Re: What the hell is "taco snotting"? (Score:-1)
      by WeatherTroll on 2001.11.19 8:14 (#2583667)

      You should update this to say VA Software instead of VA Linux.

    21. YOU ARE WINNER (Score:1)
      by smackmonkey on 2001.11.19 7:06 (#2583510)

      Crackhead moderators: this is +5, Hilarious material.

      --
      CNN declares War on Islam!
      Left-wing America declares War on its Civil Liberties!

    22. Re:On Taco-Snotting 1.9 (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 5:40 (#2583336)

      This was funny the first 100 times. Now it is getting boring!

    23. Digusting and Shameful (Score:-1)
      by egg troll on 2001.11.18 22:27 (#2582054)

      Having masturbated *twice* to this post, I'm still incredibly aroused! Come over for a Taco Snot. I'll be wearing my crotchless Clifford the Big Red Dog outfit!!

      For more info check out this /. article

    24. IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:-1, Flamebait)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:03 (#2580822)

      add more links to goatse and to cowboineal's site to make it better. a link to rotten.com would be nice too

      • Re:IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:0)
        by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:18 (#2580832)

        and a link to michael's site and to jon katz's site if he has one and homo's site. i dont know what else to say. maybe a few links to phallic.org they have nice penis pictures! a link to the planet quake site or whatever. really make the reader feel this faq really answers their questions. oh yeah, and when you talk about cmdrtaco snotting you, say he brought you to "orgasm after sweaty orgasm". describe it more is all i'm saying. and use more italics and bolding! and when you talk about jon katz shitting or whatever have a link to fecal japan on rotten.com

        other wise a great job wipo troll! keep up the good work!

    25. Re:CmdrTaco's filthy secret! (Score:-1)
      by Wil Wheaton on 2001.11.18 6:41 (#2580438)

      Hi. Let's be buddies.. butt buddies.
      --
      WIL WHEATON DOT NET

    26. WIPO speaks the truth (Score:-1)
      by dead_puppy on 2001.11.18 5:33 (#2580342)

      Here is an e-mail I received a week ago:

      From: malda@slashdot.org
      To: puppy_dead@hotmail.com
      Subject: were where you last friday? :(

      I thought we where supposed to meet at Backdoor's at 8-ish, sugar-lips? You could've at least told me that you could'nt make it! I was even in my favorite pink skirt for you, honey-cup... next time, you could be more considarite and tell me you cant come... bastard.

      --
      CmdrTaco (malda@slashdot.org)

      You finding Ling-Ling's head?

    27. Taco snotting is WRONG!!! (Score:-1)
      by Big_Ass_Spork on 2001.11.18 4:53 (#2580300)

      I do it wrong

      Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.

      Massaging my nutsack she....

      WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!

      Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass. [goatse.cx]

      "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"

      "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"

      I DO IT WRONG!!!!

      ---
      All your Sporks are belong to Big_Ass_Spork! What you say?! All your Sporks are belo... forget it...

    28. Rob Malda Dead at age 25! (Score:-1)
      by j0nkatz on 2001.11.17 22:54 (#2579596)

      I just heard some sad news on the radio -- famous queerbait Rob Malda was found dead in his Holland home this morning. The details were a bit hazy, but it seems that he drowned in jizz while Taco Snotting his friend Hemos. I'm sure everyone in the /. community will miss him -- even if you didn't enjoy his queer antics and boring ass website, there's no denying his contributions to the homosesual cultural development, particularly in the areas of Taco snotting. Truly an American icon.

      I wanna Open Source sex so it won't be worth a shit either.

    29. TACO-SNOTTING is really Donkey-Punching (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.15 6:38 (#2567601)

      No no no, the correct term for that is "donkey-punch". I have eye-witnessed this amazing eye-popping event demonstrated on unsuspecting hose-monsters by my frat brothers in the past.. . :-)

    30. Re:the effect of knowlege laws... (Score:1)
      by AbsoluteRelativity on 2001.11.15 5:31 (#2567457)

      The WIPO Troll
      Slashdot and the Karma Lottery - News for uber monkeys, by uber monkeys.

    31. Re:Taco-Snotting (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:27 (#2557632)

      Oh, man that's just sick !

    32. HOW DO I GET AN ANONYMOUS PROXY? (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:03 (#2557604)

      TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET AN ANONYMOUS proxy please WIPO Troll. Maybe later i will join you in a snotting at my place. ;P

    33. Re:Taco-Snottage!?!?!? (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by vikool on 2001.11.13 7:43 (#2557495)

      what is this bull shit,i feel offened that some people feel so so senseless to post stuff like these esp when such a tragic incident has occured

    34. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1)
      by I.T.R.A.R.K. on 2001.11.11 22:38 (#2551890)

      Where the fuck do I sign up?!

      - I throw rocks at retarded kids

      "Adequacy.org: Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."

    35. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 21:53 (#2551753)

      this shit is hilarious..keep up the good work.

    36. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by rockwood on 2001.11.11 21:49 (#2551746)

      OMG! That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard! WHo in their right mind would sit down and waste the time to construct such a replusive story. I guess I'll be skipping lunch and dinner today.. and possibly tomorrow also. The game doesn't affect reality. Reality affects the game.

    37. Re:Ban this! It's disgusting!! (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 14:43 (#2550701)

      dude, this is crap-flood material if i ever saw it.
      duuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeeeeee.

    38. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Flamebait)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 8:16 (#2550266)

      horny_rob_6969@hotmail.com

      Ah, so that's what the alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.horny-rob newsgroup is about!

    39. MOD THIS UP PLEASE!!! (Score:-1)
      by egg troll on 2001.11.11 5:34 (#2550024)

      +5, Arousing

      For more info check out this /. article

    40. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:39 (#2549891)

      WINNER>

    41. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:37 (#2549887)

      I love you. Why do you use your bitchslapped account, rather than signing up for a new account to post at +1 before getting bitchslapped by the censors here? I guess I should speak for myself, but I don't want to log out and lose all my slashdot customization properties, nor do I want to lose my 50 karma yet.

    42. Re:On Taco-Snotting (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.09 9:19 (#2542412)

      you fucking rock! right down to the expanded cvs id!

      WIPO trolls > linux

    ________________________________________

    $Id: tacosnotting.html,v 1.12 2001/12/02 20:07:02 wipo Exp $
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    Crapflooder Associates
    Slashdot.org

  13. is AA a hi-pri feature in Gnome 2.0? by 2Bits · · Score: 2

    I run Linux on my Sony VAIO 505FX (the first generation ultraslim) with 96MB of memory, and the highest res is only 800x600 (I know, I wish it could do better). I find the AA text from KDE to be a really nice feature to have, as it makes everything much smoother. However, KDE is gigantic bloat, and it makes my little vaio crawl.

    This machine is quite zippy running Gnome+Sawfish. And I'd wish to have AA fonts on Gnome too. Is this a hi-pri feature for 2.0? Can't wait to see that.

    1. Re:is AA a hi-pri feature in Gnome 2.0? by brunes69 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Er, AA works fine in Gnome right now. Why are you waiting until 2.0? Do a little research on the subject before you start asking pointless questions.

    2. Re:is AA a hi-pri feature in Gnome 2.0? by diamondc · · Score: 2, Informative

      yes, Gtk 2 has AA already builtin (unlike the gdkxft hack for gtk 1.2) like the latest qt. check out this screenshot:

      http://developer.gnome.org/dotplan/images/gnome2 -w ith-launchers-1207.png

      --
      "I keep looking in the want-ads under 'revolutionary' but there don't seem to be any listings.. "
    3. Re:is AA a hi-pri feature in Gnome 2.0? by hexix · · Score: 3, Informative

      What's your problem? Not sure why you are so hostile over a simple question. And the fact that you insult him for not knowing you can do anti-aliasing is just stupid, seeing as gdkxft is an ugly ugly hack.

      I should know, I use it myself, many programs such as gaim will often get a double-written type look where it looks like it is trying to render the font twice, usually when I type in the entry box so that it goes to the next line. It also breaks a lot of programs, like mozilla (unless you get the patch), gimp, probably lots of others too.

      So to actually answer his question, instead of just being an ass for no reason, yes gnome 2.0 does support very nice anti-aliasing. Some people have said it actually looks better than the Xft stuff that gdkxft and qt use, but not sure if that's true.

    4. Re:is AA a hi-pri feature in Gnome 2.0? by pcidevel · · Score: 1

      http://developer.gnome.org/dotplan/images/gnome2-w ith-launchers-1207.png

      The lame lameness filter inserted a space in your url, so I made it into a link so that people can go check out that sweet screenshot.. I can't believe how nice gnome2 looks with AA fonts!!

      --

      I thought someone said there was going to be free beer!

    5. Re:is AA a hi-pri feature in Gnome 2.0? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > yes gnome 2.0 does support very nice anti-aliasing. Some people have said it actually looks better than the Xft stuff that gdkxft and qt use, but not sure if that's true.

      Actually, that CAN'T be true, since Pango, which is used by GNOME 2, uses Xft/FreeType, which gtkxft has used in the last few months, and Qt has used in the last year.

    6. Re:is AA a hi-pri feature in Gnome 2.0? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol, when I first looked at that, it seemed to look exactly like a less polished version of KDE, complete with the titlebar and titlebar stripples. They might have also picked some nice fonts to show off AA, like some Microsoft ones, which are very nice with AA.

      Also, the icons look kde-like too.

    7. Re:is AA a hi-pri feature in Gnome 2.0? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh.. but only the icons aren't as obtuse as KDE. No one has explained why the KDE 'home' icon has a door that looks like it's protruding from the house.

    8. Re:is AA a hi-pri feature in Gnome 2.0? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it creates a 3d effect. Better than GNOME2's half-baked KDE-lookalike icons with a 2d dimensional home icon. Whoever did them probably doesn't have an art degree even.

    9. Re:is AA a hi-pri feature in Gnome 2.0? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it creates a 3d effect. Better than GNOME2's half-baked KDE-lookalike icons with a 2d dimensional home icon. Whoever did them probably doesn't have an art degree even.

      Okay, I'm not very familiar with Gnome or with KDE but from that Gnome screenshot, the home icon and the stop icon were pretty good, the navigations icons were fine too. The other icons on the screen were way too detailed; they may well have been drawn by someone with an art degree but not by someone who understands icon design.

      Icons, like road signs, should be simple and immediately recognisable. The more detail they have the longer it takes to take them in. I would suspect the KDE home icon is poor if it's 3d as you describe it - what does that add to an icon? I haven't seen it though, so I may be being unfair.

    10. Re:is AA a hi-pri feature in Gnome 2.0? by fetto · · Score: 1

      > However, KDE is gigantic bloat, and it makes my little vaio crawl.
      If thats the case it's your distros fault, KDE on Debian(Woody) is really zippy.

    11. Re:is AA a hi-pri feature in Gnome 2.0? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.kde.org/screenshots/large/kde2final_2.j pg

      Most of KDE's icons are built for usability.

    12. Re:is AA a hi-pri feature in Gnome 2.0? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      It creates a 3d effect... er... HOW MANY DOOR PROTRUDE FROM HOUSES?

      A 3d effect? For a door protruding from the house. ..I oughta have your head.

  14. Hacker Posts Naked Pics on Mandela's Fund Web Site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    heh, this is a funny story.

  15. Goddamn what a fat boy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic



    I posted earlier, but goddamned, I ran into Rob Malda maybe three weeks ago and he is lugging around serious weight. Goddamn he has gotten really fat. Shit.

  16. DO NOT CLICK THE LINK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    DO NOT CLICK THE LINK

    1. Re:DO NOT CLICK THE LINK by adamy · · Score: 1

      So of course I clicked the link

      Turns out it is a javascrip page that opens window after window, I assume it would stop when it crashed some resourece or other.

      So yes, don't click the link

      --
      Open Source Identity Management: FreeIPA.org
    2. Re:DO NOT CLICK THE LINK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I clicked the link and nothing happened.
      But then, I'm using Mozilla with popup on load disabled.

  17. get on the bus! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    It was a warm day in Ithaca, NY. Just warm enough to wear shorts and not be too cold. I had just picked up my bus ticket and baggage tag for my trip home to Buffalo. I was visiting my best friend for the weekend. I filled out all the necessary information on my baggage tag and went to give it to the bus driver. Then, out of the corner of my eye, I saw the most unbelievable looking girl I'd ever seen. She was tall, blond, very well-endowed, and dressed in the SHORTEST skirt I'd ever seen in my life. No stockings underneath or anything! We exchanged smiles as I handed my luggage over to the driver.

    I gave my friend a good-bye hug and got on the bus and sat down. It began to fill up quickly and the only seat left was the one next to me. A deep, sexy, female voice asked me if the seat was taken. I looked up, and there was the girl I saw while checking my luggage! I silently cleared my throat and, in my radio voice said "No, have a seat." She smiled and said "Thanks, I will." She had only 1 bag with her and as she reached to put it in the baggage compart- ment above our heads, her skirt raised so far up that I could see the bottom of her delicious pussy. She wasn't even wearing panties! My teeth almost dropped onto the floor. She put the bag up there and sat down. She introduced herself, "Hi, I'm Tiffany. What's your name?" I smiled and said, "I'm (I had to think) Tom. Are you from Ithaca?" "No, I'm from Buffalo, you?" was her reply. I was amazed that she was from Buffalo. That meant that she would be sitting with me the entire 4 hour ride there. I told her of my place of origin and she made a comment on the coincidence.

    The bus got ready to leave. The driver closed the door, made the usual pre-departure announcements, and we were off. As we left the station, the driver turned on the air conditioning. It took a few minutes to get back to where were sitting but when it did, I started to get cold. Tiffany did also. I could see the goose bumps forming on her perfectly shaped, tan thighs. After a while it got a little too cold for comfort. She asked me, "Are you cold?" To which I responded, "kind of." She said, "I've got an idea" and with that, got up and reached into her bag (again revealing her sumptuous snatch) and got out a somewhat large blanket. She said, "Do you wanna share this blanket?" It didn't sound like anything promising, but I replied in the affirmative. She draped the blanket over our legs and we rode on. I was a little disappointed because I now could no longer get a glimpse of those incredible legs of hers. But there was a plus to all this. She wouldn't be able to see my hard-on. She also brought down a magazine with the blanket which she promptly started reading. Realizing that she didn't want to talk any longer, I put on the headphones to the walkman that sat in my lap. When the tape was over, I took it out and wanted to get another one. I glanced over at Tiffany. She was asleep with the magazine in he lap. Anyway, I reached under the blanket to get my next tape from my back pack and inadvertently ran my hand down the side of her leg. Her skin was so smooth and the perfume she was wearing was making me horny. As I rummaged through my back pack for the tape I wanted, I felt her leg move up against my arm. I then put the tape in my right hand and ran my left hand back up her leg. She seemed to like it because she moved her leg up and down until I did it again. I moved my hand in a sort of circular motion on her knee and then moved up to her thigh. I stayed on the outside at first, then I moved to the front of it. I stayed there for awhile and then I began to feel adventurous. I casually moved my hand towards the inner part of her thigh about at the knee. I massaged that area 2 or three times and moved back a bit farther. I repeated this pattern until I was at about the middle of her thigh. I was getting very horny and my cock was extremely hard. Her legs were not completely together, but not far enough apart that I could try to massage her pussy. I decided to "test the water" and I moved my hand farther back until I was almost at the junction of her legs. She then rectified the situation of the lack of space between her legs by spreading them and slouching down in the seat. I couldn't believe it. I moved my hand to her pussy. It was very warm. I gently ran my hand around the surface of it to sort of tease her a bit. She started rocking her hips a little which was a definite sign that she wanted more. I began to put some more pressure on her pussy and it was clear she was aroused because I could feel her wetness. I moved up and down her outer lips and up to her clit. I started playing with her clit lightly at first, then increasing my speed and force. She started to breathe more heavily now and she was moving her hips against my hand. By this time I was hard as a rock and I moved my hand down from her clit and put my finger inside her hole. She loved that, especially when I put 2 fingers in there! She began to moan softly and she moved her hand to reach under my shorts and grab my rock-hard cock! I then turned my hand so that I could finger-fuck her and massage her swollen clit at the same time. She moved her pussy back and forth faster now to move with my rhythm. She grabbed me harder and started jerking me off. Finally, things got real hot, I turned to her and said, "Don't you think we should go somewhere more private so we can do all kinds of NASTY things to each other?" As I said this I moved my hand even harder and faster. She could only nod yes and moan in response.

    I slowed down, then stopped. We got up and left the blanket, walkman, and magazine on the seats and headed for the bathroom. On the way back, I started to wonder if anyone would hear us. However, I remembered that the engine was back there also, so that probably wouldn't be a problem. We got in there and locked the door. I sat her up on the sink and we started kissing deeply. I started massaging her thighs with both hands this time and she began to moan in excitement. I whipped out my member (which by this time was hard enough to cut diamonds!) and moved it towards her. She then said, "No. Wait. I want you to fuck me but first I want you to eat me. I wanna have my first orgasm in your mouth!" I then proceeded to remove her top and her big, beau- tiful tits popped out. She wasn't even wearing a bra (like that was a big surprise). I stopped thinking about the issue of her dressing style and set to my task. I moved her hips forward onto the sink and got on my knees. I put my mouth up to her inviting tuna taco and blew on it. She liked that alot. I did that for a minute or so. Then I started licking the insides of her thighs and stopped right before I got to the intended target. I did this a few times and it drove her absolutely nuts! I finally started licking her cunt itself. She was one of those women who doesn't even have an odor except for the baby powder that she must have used when she showered. So, upon discovering that she had no alarming scent, I dove right in there. The sudden change from almost no licking to what I was doing now made her twitch and moan loudly. I flicked her clit with my tongue and stopped occasionally to catch my breath. I then took her clit into my mouth and sucked on it. I could tell by her hips bucking that she was gonna come! I didn't want her to just yet. So I turned my atten- tion to her hole! I put my tongue in there and moved my head back and forth so that I could literally fuck her with my tongue. When I felt that now familiar bucking of her hips and her grabbing of her tits and screaming, I stopped. I faked that I was out of breath so that I could get my hand in position. After seeing that she had calmed down, I took my middle finger and stuck it in her hole and started sucking on her clit at the same time using my teeth. I did it hard and fast. She started screaming again and she was gonna come! I thought of stopping again, but I was so horny for this girl that I wanted her to spill her female juices of love all over my face. And that's exactly what she did! I licked and swallowed until I got every last drop. After I got to my feet and started massaging her tits, she grabbed my cock and said, "FUCK ME!"

    Boy, what a neat idea. Why didn't I think of that? I told her that since she was holding on to my rod, she could put it in. I grabbed her by the waist and, as soon as my cock was in position, thrusted up inside her. The combination of the action while we were in our seats, the recent adventure of the tongue, and the anticipation of fucking her brains out was almost too much for me. I moved back and forth at a good speed which made her squirm and scream with ectasy! She leaned back and grabbed onto these 2 handles next to the mirror. When she did this, I bent over and, while fucking her, started sucking on her jugs. She was wet, wild, and willing! Speaking of wetness, I could feel my hot cream welling up getting ready to explode. I didn't want to come yet. I wanted to save it for the very last wave of sex. However, she didn't want to save it, she started gyrating and almost hollering! I could feel her orgasm come out in one large tidal wave. The warmth of her juices surrounded my red- hot meat slab. I slowed down a little to allow her to calm down. She looked at me and licked her lips. She said, "OK stud, your turn, sit down!"

    I climbed out of my shorts and sat down on the toilet. Then, she stepped out of her skirt and knelt down in front of me. My cock was standing straight up. She took it in her left hand and started massaging my nuts with her right hand. As she did this, she started licking the length of my cock and darting her tongue back and forth on the head. It was driving me absolutely crazy! Then she took it all in her mouth with one swift movement. She started sucking on it like it was a straw,desperately trying to get the juice out ofit. I was going absolutely wild. This girl could probably suck a golf ball through 20 feet of garden hose! Finally, I could feel myself about to come. I didn't want to just yet, but her talented mouth on my wankie was not about to let me hold it back. I started fucking her mouth like it was her pussy and shot my load into it. She was so happy that she made me come all over the inside of her mouth, that she started to moan real loud and greedily swallow and suck.

    After I lubricated her mouth with my hot cream, she stood up and I grabbed her by the waist and, making her straddle the toilet seat and my legs, positioned her box right over my pole. When she was properly placed, I grabbed her ass cheeks and pulled them towards me to wrap that cunt of hers right around my dick! She began grinding and moaning and I grabbed her hips and grinded her faster. I was so hot for her, that I didn't care how fast we went, as long as we kept on fucking. Her pussy felt so good around my cock. It was so soft and satiny inside and it was rubbing on all the right places on me. She stuck her chest out and I started sucking on her tits again. It didn't take very long before she started howling and exploded into yet another orgasm. I was close behind her with my jet spray of sex juice! We slowed down and let the motion of the bus control our movements while we relaxed. Then I kissed her deeply and said, "It's not over yet Tiffany, it's time for the grand finale. Stand up."

    As she stood up, I leaned forward and started eating her snatch for about 30 seconds just to get her going again. Then I stood up, turned her around and had her put her hands on the toilet seat. I rubbed her ass first with my hand, then with my cock. After a few minutes of this, I stuck it in her pussy. Then after a minute, I put one hand on her clit, and one hand on her tit. She grabbed her other tit and started screaming and slapping her ass against my thighs. She couldn't control herself. I asked her if she liked being fucked that way. She could only respond "Oooooooooooooh yeeeeeeeeeeeah!" The sexual pleasure from my fucking her, rubbing her clit, and having both her tits played with at the same time, made her start to cum continuously. I could also feel my hot giz begin to boil. I knew I was gonna cum any minute. It was gonna be the best orgasm yet. I wanted hers to be too. So as I could feel myself start to cum, I started fucking her faster, rubbing her clit harder, and kneading her tit more forcefully. She did her tit more forcefully too. Well, this did exactly what I wanted it to do. In fact, we both exploded into such an orgasm, that it left us shouting at the top of our lungs for at least a minute. That may not seem like a long time, but when you're doing it, it does. We were screaming so loud that I'm sure the entire bus could hear us, but neither of us cared.

    When we finished, we did some "afterplay" to gradually bring us down from that "high" we were on from all that wondrous copulation. We got dressed, opened the door to the bathroom, and walked back to our seats. As we were walking back, a guy looked up and me, smiled, and gave me the old "thumbs up" routine. Obviously, he heard us.

    The bus pulled in to Buffalo. We got off the bus and got our luggage and went inside the bus station. As we waited for our rides to pick us up, we exchanged addresses and phone numbers. She asked me if I wanted to get together sometime soon. I said, "You bet! I've got an in-ground pool and my parents are going out of town next month." She smiled and licked her lips. My ride arrived and we said goodbye.

  18. Gnome should join KDE. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    It would be 100x more productive to merge GNOME with KDE. There are a lot of positives on both sides, and it's a complete waste of effort to keep going at two seperate projects.

    1. Re:Gnome should join KDE. by Glenn2372 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      On one hand, I can see that. But remember the beef that most Slashdotters have with Microsoft: lack of choice = beginnings of monopoly = hell on earth.

      I say let each develop and make the best that they can. Fair competition is a good and stimulating environment.

    2. Re:Gnome should join KDE. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're willing to merge GTK+ with QT and gnome-libs with kde-libs, be my guest.
      If you're smart enough and have enough spare time to do that, help yourself.
      So grab your favorite FTP client and download the source.
      Try to merge the two projects... until you find out how much they differ architecturally and realize how hard it is to merge them.

      In short: trying to merge the two projects is almost impossible.
      To try to do that, now THAT is a waste of time.

    3. Re:Gnome should join KDE. by swright · · Score: 1

      Actually, I've always wondered how easy it would be to make a clone of GTK+ that's just a wrapper around Qt... (and/or vice versa...)

      Ok this is probably soo totally not possible, but it would solve many of the issues that the _user_ has (two distinct, different looking and different working interfaces...)

      [dont flame me too much I know its only a pipe dream...]

    4. Re:Gnome should join KDE. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, this is quite feasbile. Look at kdebindings in kde's cvs for qtc, a C binding for qt.

    5. Re:Gnome should join KDE. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus there's all the snags and trapdoors in TrollTech's ultra complex and byzantine triple licensing with Qt.

      Frankly, as a developer, I won't touch it. KDE is a software developers licensing hell...

    6. Re:Gnome should join KDE. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I realy like the ideea of an unified
      window api (like in windows is)
      there should be some dictatorship on these
      look the win32api changed fery slow
      over the 10 years (600+ freezed fuctions)
      These things are good for developers.
      U learn once then apply everywhere

    7. Re:Gnome should join KDE. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, it's "complex" and "byzantine" because you are a fucking dumbass.

      Chose GPL if you want to make open software.
      Chose Commercial if you want to make properitary software, or want to develop on multiple platforms.

      If you don't get that, then you are a fucking moron, which most GNOME developers are.

  19. The KDE vs GNOME war does not exsist!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The entire nonexistent 'war' is just made up by some trolling losers who have nothing better to do!
    When one of the desktops come with good news, the trolls get all upset about it and spread FUD.
    Well, let's face the reality: the war does not exist!
    Sorry, but that's the way it is, so live with it, 'cause trolling is completely useless.
    Nobody will listen to you, no matter how hard to try.

    1. Re:The KDE vs GNOME war does not exsist!!! by ShadeEagle · · Score: 0

      It's like Sub/Dub wars in anime... just replace GNOME and KDE with Subtitled and Dubbed.

      Or for that matter, Coke and Pepsi. Ryu and Ken.

    2. Re:The KDE vs GNOME war does not exsist!!! by sbrown123 · · Score: 1

      This might sound wierd but I like the trolling between these two desktops. It makes people get all ruffled up and go hack at their favorite desktop to one up the other. Competition is good. I think they are both great desktop's with a lot to offer and need each other to have something to compare to. Windows has no competition and this has become its weakness as they have become very lazy and ignorant towards their users needs.

      I have just recently installed XP and my wife now prefers using Linux to browse the internet since it takes all day to get Windows to load let alone navigate through. I am constantly patching Internet Explorer and have not had to yet do this likewise with Mozilla. This may be that Mozilla does not have the power of Virus Basic for the Script Kiddies to play with...

    3. Re:The KDE vs GNOME war does not exsist!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually the Coke vs Pepsi war is true in that they try to limit the choice of one or the other (something KDE or Gnome would never do - and infact try to work along nicely together). When was the last time you saw Pepsi at McDonalds?

  20. screenshots link by Proud+Geek · · Score: 5, Informative

    Well, this is a developer link, not for people who don't enjoy building it themselves, but here are some nice screenshots.

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    Even Slashdot wants to hide some things

    1. Re:screenshots link by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 1
      As usual the icons are beautiful, but I sure hope that widget style isn't the default theme.. it's horrible! Almost looks like the worst of Motif and Windows combined.


      I also noticed a 1.4.1 release is planned ("Bug fix and UI polish follow-on to 1.4: Not yet released"), is there any schedule for that one or is it mostly forgotten with 2.0 approaching?

    2. Re:screenshots link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd prefer something like KDE, OSX, or WinXP's default.

      Hell, gtk 1.2's default theme is much better than this new one

    3. Re:screenshots link by Z4rd0Z · · Score: 1
      It looks exactly like the current gnome except for the aa fonts. I use kde, but I always look forward to a new gnome release. Since gnome 1.2 came out, it hasn't seemed to change much at all. With these screenshots, it appears like it may be more of the same only a little prettier. Of course, it may be better performance-wise.

      I noticed in one shot of the control panel, there was the ability to customize "Sawfish Window Manager". Okay, I'll start my rant. Remember awhile back when gnome did their usability study? Haven't they learned anything? How many users know, or even need to know what a window manager is? How many users know, or need to know, what a sawfish window manager is? Instead you could have a couple of separate entries like "Change Window Decorations" and "Change Window Behavior". That ought to cover any relevant window management issues. This business of having more than one choice of window managers is really silly anyway for a desktop environment. This is treated as a selling point! It's not. Window managers are for people who don't like desktop environments and want complete control. Make this shit transparent to people! For a company like Ximian who obviously has visions of taking over the world, this ought to be a piece of cake.

      Kde is equally guilty of this sin. When you change your desktop theme, the entire desktop should change. The window borders, the widgets, the background, the taskbar, everything. But no. In kde, changing the theme doesn't change the window border. You have to select that separately. As well, they give you the option of changing the "style" in addition to the two options "theme" and "window border". In gnome, it's a little better. You can change your theme. But it doesn't affect the window borders. You have to customize "Sawfish Window Manager" to do that. At that point, however, Joe User has already given up.

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    4. Re:screenshots link by jdub! · · Score: 5, Informative

      Hi there,

      Not only did Sun provide their usability study to the GNOME community for review and reflection, the GNOME Usability Project has been working very hard on both our Human Interface Guide and some basic changes they feel are essential for the GNOME 2.0 Desktop release. You can find these on the GUP website.

      These have certainly not been ignored, in fact, they have spawned an incredible amount of discussion and development work. The screenshot you see of the new control centre is a port of the 1.5 version that Ximian have been shipping as a preview component of their GNOME 1.4 desktop.

      Many of the superfluous options have been removed from GNOME's user interface, which is a very important step in the right direction for usability. Don't worry, all those crazy options that we geeks love will be still be around, they'll just be harder to get to (so umpteen million options don't crowd our preferences dialogues).

      Indeed, the concept of configuring so many seemingly disparate parts of the desktop, such as GTK+ themes, window manager themes, backgrounds, etc., will be simplified with the new Metatheme system, which integrates all of these into a simple dialogue. You can very easily make your own metathemes too.

      I hope these address your concerns about GNOME developer's desire to improve the usability of our desktop. :)

    5. Re:screenshots link by Z4rd0Z · · Score: 2

      I'm glad to hear this. And thanks for being so level headed even though I kind of flew off the handle. ;)

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    6. Re:screenshots link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > In kde, changing the theme doesn't change the window border. You have to select that separately. As well, they give you the option of changing the "style" in addition to the two options "theme" and "window border".

      This is fixed in KDE 3, with a unified theme panel with colors, widget style, window borders, importing of them, etc..

  21. GNOME still has aways to go by UltraBot2K1 · · Score: -1, Redundant

    Until GNOME gets good support for universal cut and paste, a good web browser and office suite, and decent stability, I'll stick with WinXP.

    Let's compare:

    GNOME:
    bad/non-existent copy/paste support
    no useable web browsers
    crashes every time you turn around
    cost: $0, unless you want support and documentation

    WinXP
    universal copy/paste
    the industry standard web browser
    stability: I haven't had to reboot since I first installed XP; this is definitely the best Windows yet
    the most widely used Office suite in the world
    cost: $0, with full documentation and 1 year of support (taking 5 finger discount into account)

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    1. Re:GNOME still has aways to go by stew77 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Could you please post a link where I can download a legal version of Windows XP and Office for $0? Thank you very much.

    2. Re:GNOME still has aways to go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do lockups count as crashes?

      Do they count as bluescreens?

    3. Re:GNOME still has aways to go by n2dasun · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Please mod this guy down to "-4, scrub"

      I suppose that you're pretty cool for bragging that you steal software. You're doing a good service to the IT community, which I'll assume that you feel like you have some part in, since you're floating around slashdot. And drudging up another thread about Linux vs. Windows, I suppose that's as good a way to fill your lonely Friday: fan the everpresent geek flames and revel in the fruits of your labor. I think you should post anonymously from now on.

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    4. Re:GNOME still has aways to go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With a five finger discount, you dumbfuck.

      I bet you were paid off by Ximian to write pro-GNOME comments on slashdot. No worries, my Slashdot pro-KDE pro-WINXP friends, Ximian is burning through so much cash that it'll go out of buisness ;)

  22. question! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    q: why do niggers have red eyes after fucking?
    a: mace!

    q: What did the nigger boy get for christmas?
    a: My bike!

    1. Re:question! by Allah_Spork · · Score: -1

      Hehehehehe

  23. I have horrible news for you. by Doktor+Memory · · Score: 2

    Font anti-aliasing is probably one of the major reasons that KDE is so slow for you. Try turning it off and compare again.

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    1. Re:I have horrible news for you. by 2Bits · · Score: 2
      Nope, that does not help. I turned off AA, remove all the applets (except the battery monitoring one), run rxvt instead of Kterm, only have two desktops, and only one app at a time. And I have no unnecessary daemons (sendamil, ftpd, ....), it just run enough to bring a bare machine up. And KDE still makes it crawl.

      And oh, for those flamers who said I just need to do some research because AA is already in GTK, blah blah blah, well yeah, I knew that. But I want to be able to turn it on/off thru Gnome Control, and apply it to the whole environment.

    2. Re:I have horrible news for you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, I've had almost the other experience. I went from a dual p3-733mhz with 128mb ram to a p3-500 with 256mb ram at work.. previously, kde was dog slow and gnome was pretty fast

      however, now, it's quite the opposite, kde is really fast and gnome is the other way around, especially nautilus. this leads me to beleive that:

      gnome is a cpu hog
      kde is a memory hog

    3. Re:I have horrible news for you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that the classic tradeoff is speed vs. memory, it's easy to see which direction each set of devlopers favors :-/

    4. Re:I have horrible news for you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      some of KDE's speed problems are hampered by the poor quality of g++ linkers. can't say the same thing for GNOME, as it's based on a fully working gcc linker, but is still very very slow.

      which is why I use windowmaker, and sometimes kde when I'm in the "desktop environemnt mood"

    5. Re:I have horrible news for you. by draxil · · Score: 1

      ooh man! You can get treatment for "desktop environment mood" nowadays...

  24. It's great to see open source software... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ... progressing like this. This just goes to show what can be done. Excellent job, men and women! Keep up the great work over at the GNOME project! My humble thanks.

    1. Re:It's great to see open source software... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Keep up the karma whoring with completely offtopic comments!

  25. Another poor release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    GNOME 2.0 is even less ready for the desktop than previous versions. This version doesn't even run key applications, like AbiWord and StarOffice, properly. How can Joe Sixpack use a computer if the word processor doesn't work? This is why WinXP is flying off store shelves, while Linux is confined to the bargain bin, and the server rooms of corporations too crap to afford the industry-leading Windows XP server(tm).

    1. Re:Another poor release by alexborges · · Score: 1

      Um....You obviously know nothing about Gnome, what it is, and how Xwindows work.

      Gnome2 does not run OpenOffice, is not responsible for AbiWord behaviour either (that would be plain Gnome vanilla). Gnome2 is a developers api to which applications that want to run in its platform should port....

      Do you understand now????

      Alex

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    2. Re:Another poor release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, for starters It's not a release for the users.
      It's a release targeted for developers that wants to start porting their applications to the Gnome2 platform.
      As for AbiWord and other applications not being able to run on the Gnome2 platform, you are just plain wrong. It's not yet ported to it, but it is still possible to run AbiWord from another installation with Gnome.

    3. Re:Another poor release by ambrosius27 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      um...it's a DEVELOPMENT PLATFORM release, i.e. we're talking about the libraries upon which the desktop environment is built. In a few weeks, after they've killed lots of the bugs hiding in the libraries and after the developers have had more time to port the key desktop applications, then the DESKTOP beta will roll out too. Some of the applications, like Abiword, may not be ported by the time GNOME 2.0 goes gold; however, all GNOME 1.4 applications will work great in the GNOME 2.0 desktop until the apps have been ported. In the meantime, the apps just won't be taking advantage of the goodies in the GNOME 2.0 libraries, that's all. So, relax! The future looks rosy. :-)

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    4. Re:Another poor release by johnnyb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's why its a PLATFORM BETA. It's not a release beta, it's a PLATFORM BETA. This means that they are working on the PLATFORM. Then they will be working on the applications. Joe Sixpack is NOT MEANT for this release. Period. When they have a DESKTOP release, and after distributions package it, then it will be ready for Joe Desktop. Don't complain simply because you don't understand the process. The process is the same for Windows, it's just that with Linux, anyone can view the progress.

    5. Re:Another poor release by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 1
      Actually, a Beta should be suitable for general use. Maybe not Joe Sixpack, but a Beta traditionally is a release ment for savvy end-users, to find the last remaining bugs. A release candidate is ment to be suitable for a even larger public.


      It is Alpha releases that are not ment for end-users and developers only. Beta releases are not ment for all end-users, but certainly they are suitable for the savvy ones (you know, the ones that write useful bug reports).

    6. Re:Another poor release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Actually, a Beta should be suitable for general use. Maybe not Joe Sixpack, but a Beta traditionally is a release ment for savvy end-users, to find the last remaining bugs.

      What part of the previous post do you not understand ? The part that's "beta" is the development platform itself. So in the context of this release, the developers are the "users", and the people who are developing the nuts and bolts are the "developers",.

    7. Re:Another poor release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, this is not how it works in open sourced desktops. They should have called it alpha2 like KDE does and GNOME did until this point. "development platform" is just a buzzword. give me a fucking break man, I hope Ximian doesn't continue on doing Microsoft-ish advertising schemes like that.

    8. Re:Another poor release by johnnyb · · Score: 2

      Actually, a Beta should be suitable for general use.

      **************

      Not a platform beta. The platform beta means that they've got all of the pieces of the platform together, and they are testing the API's to make _them_ production quality. The DESKTOP betas are scheduled for next year, in which case end-user functionality will be tested.

    9. Re:Another poor release by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 1
      Not a platform beta. The platform beta means that they've got all of the pieces of the platform together, and they are testing the API's to make _them_ production quality. The DESKTOP betas are scheduled for next year, in which case end-user functionality will be tested.


      Hm, if only the API's are Beta and the UI isn't even that level, I have a hard time believing they have a realistic time schedule. Apparently there isn't room for "desktop" alphas and they Beta's are awfully close to each other. Two weeks between Beta 1 and Beta 2 is too short if you want a decent amount of feedback and time to actually fix problems that will be reported as well.


      I seriously hope the GUI is also near Beta quality already.

    10. Re:Another poor release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm laughing my ass off at the idiots above claiming "YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT MAAAN!@#"

      Some people need a sense of humor...

    11. Re:Another poor release by johnnyb · · Score: 2

      Hm, if only the API's are Beta and the UI isn't even that level, I have a hard time believing they have a realistic time schedule.

      *****

      Ummm...., you have to have the API's BEFORE the applications. If the APIs is only beta quality, how could the applications which depend on them be more so?

      You also have to remember that the applications themselves are already written, they only need to be ported to the new API, so it's not like they are going to be rewritten from scratch or anything.

      Also, fast turnaround times are essential for feedback and testing. If two weeks after Beta 1 users are still reporting bugs that were fixed a week ago, you have a bad situation. The faster the turnaround time between betas, the better. Remember, "release early, release often". That's how you find and fix bugs.

    12. Re:Another poor release by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 2
      ,i>You also have to remember that the applications themselves are already written, they only need to be ported to the new API, so it's not like they are going to be rewritten from scratch or anything.


      That largely depends on the API changes. I thought GNOME 2.0 was a huge improvement over 1.4 in several core areas, so porting applications might be painful.


      I suspect that most of the applications are already up-to-date with the API though, usually applications in CVS change directly after the API changes. I don't think they rewrote the API first without touching any of the applications.


      Maybe this is a big difference between GNOME and KDE (I'm mostly used to the KDE development model). Within KDE most applications that come with the main packages are maintained by the same people who maintain the libs, or at least people who closely follow the libs. Therefore the API freeze is at the same time as the application freeze.


      GNOME possibly has a somewhat more loose connection between main applications (they're packahed seperately for example), so that might require an API freeze before the application freeze. Makes sense to me now. :-)

    13. Re:Another poor release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      according to you, windows has been in beta for 15 years?

    14. Re:Another poor release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMFG could you be any more stupid? This is the software for developers to port 1.X versions of their software to 2.0. Nothing more. Development Platform= a platform to develop on. Plus Ximian is NOT Gnome. Tell me, is it true...is ignorance bliss?

    15. Re:Another poor release by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > This is the software for developers to port 1.X versions of their software to 2.0.

      Yeah, wtf, they provide screenshots and all. They are obviously catering to the ordinary LUNIX user. They should have just called it alpha2, and not broken tradition. I guess the writter of the gnome plan was either a crackwhore like RMS, or a just a fucking spic, like Miguel.

      > Plus Ximian is NOT Gnome.

      Ximian basically hijacked Gnome development. Pre-Ximian versions of GNOME were great, especially GNOME 1.2. Post Ximian versions of GNOME (1.4), are pieces of shit compared to KDE 2.x.

      > Tell me, is it true...is ignorance bliss?

      You are more qualified to tell me, fucktard.

    16. Re:Another poor release by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 1

      "They should have called it alpha2 like KDE does"

      Super Gnome 2 Alpha Turbo Championship-Edition.

      Foot vs Letter K......Fight!

      graspee

  26. Does it still look bad? by redcliffe · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    I'd use GNOME if it didn't look so bad. It looks like rubbish, although at least it isn't as bad as Windows XP. I personally think KDE is a much better environment.

    1. Re:Does it still look bad? by jacobito · · Score: 2

      Well, I guess there's no accounting for taste... :) but for what it's worth, I think GNOME looks quite nice, especially the default look of the Ximian GNOME distribution. It's very clean and minimal, with beautiful icons. Personally, I think KDE is pretty ugly, but I haven't used it much, so take that for what it's worth. In any case, GNOME (and presumably KDE) is very customizable in the look & feel department, so if the default look doesn't suit you, you can probably tweak it until you're happy.

      I use Windows XP at work, and I have to say that I think that the Windows XP GUI looks not bad at all, especially after turning off the Luna skin. The font smoothing is beautiful, and makes me pine for Mac OS much less...

    2. Re:Does it still look bad? by Lunastorm · · Score: 1

      That's why themes.org exists. As for other components of GNOME that might have made it ugly such as fonts, the fonts will be anti-aliased in GNOME 2.0.

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    3. Re:Does it still look bad? by Pussy+Is+Money · · Score: 0

      Bah, just pick a nice theme. At least Gtk has decent theme support, unlike Qt, where you can pick any look as long as it's Windows.

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    4. Re:Does it still look bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhh, Qt is much superior theme support than GTK does. As a testament to this, it can render GTK themes faster than GTK can, heh.

      And, qt3's style engine, written by Brad Hughes of blackbox fame, simply r0x0rs.

    5. Re:Does it still look bad? by Pussy+Is+Money · · Score: 0

      Dude, you are full of shit. KDE looks like Winders. Period. All the themes in the world aren't going to solve that. Especially not Trolltech's dreck. Have fun with that KDE "panel", or whatever you call that stupid slab. Shit. Roxors on, dude. Shit.

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    6. Re:Does it still look bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit, years of smoking the inside soles of your shoe have really warped your perception of reality, hasn't it?

      GNOME is almost exactly like Windows. It's so fucking gay. They have the panel, the menus, the rectangularly grey buttons, even the fucking font. At least they couldn't implement something original like KDE did.

      Suck on my ballsack, biZnaTch. Oh wait, you're already sucking on Miguel and RMS's ballsacks.

    7. Re:Does it still look bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not really fair. It's not like themes.org has KDE themes ;)

    8. Re:Does it still look bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yawn. The Qt look/themes are contrained by the fact that it *must* run on Windows/Linux/Mac - despite all the sales bullshit about "native widgets", Qt is a lowest common denominator toolkit. This is why most KDE stuff looks like a really shitty copy of Windows. It's Windows by a different name.

      Worse, these days Qt is only a litte less bloated and full of pointless crap than your average Windows install.

    9. Re:Does it still look bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.kde-look.org

      themes.org is an has-been website

    10. Re:Does it still look bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Qt is a lowest common denominator toolkit.

      No, that's not true. I'd suggest that you read the following documents throughly:

      http://doc.trolltech.com/3.0/t1.html
      http://doc.trolltech.com/3.0/classchart.html
      http://doc.trolltech.com/3.0/functions.html
      http://doc.trolltech.com/3.0/plugins-howto.html

      If you aren't a developer, then you aren't even qualified to speak. being a gnome developer also disqualfies you because we all know that you'd be a KDE developer if Ximian and/or RedHat didn't pay you off. Unless you are a nutjob like RMS and Miguel.

    11. Re:Does it still look bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's because the kde community all moved to www.kde-look.org.
      and it doesn't suck ass in terms of speed like the new themes.org. hell, I've even stop visiting themes.org, a site I would visit almost every day before the old one went down.

    12. Re:Does it still look bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read them... thanks for proving my point. Qt is shitty C++ toolkit with delusions of grandeur, a huge number of insane KDE zealots hyping it and results in apps all looking like a bad copy of Windows.

    13. Re:Does it still look bad? by draxil · · Score: 1

      I have really tried to make KDE look at all different it's just not hvaing it. KDE is stil seemingly stuck in windowsmode please point me to a screenshot that proves otherwise and I will shut up.

    14. Re:Does it still look bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you're saying that you are a nutjob on the scale of RMS and Miguel?

      Holy shit, that's scary. A new triad! ph33r!@#&%^

  27. Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    et's compare again:

    GNOME:
    more than enough cut/paste support (select & click on middle button)
    Galeon web browser: THE BEST browser ever (ad blocking, tabbed browsing, highly customizeable)
    never crashes
    cost: $0, including support (mail, irc) & documentation (ever clicked on the Help icon?)

    WinXP
    nonexistent/bad copy/paste
    the ignorant FrontPage users' standard web browser
    stability: crash at startup
    the most widely used Office suite in the world
    cost: $0, with full documentation and 1 year of support (YEAH RIGHT!!!!)

    1. Re:Nope by jchristopher · · Score: 1, Offtopic
      Galeon web browser: THE BEST browser ever (ad blocking, tabbed browsing, highly customizeable)

      Where is the 'ad blocking' feature?

    2. Re:Nope by brank · · Score: 1

      You can block image loading and/or cookies by specific sites. Combined, these features give you extremely flexible ad blocking.

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    3. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      more than enough cut/paste support (select & click on middle button)

      We both know that's stupid. The left-select, middle-paste mechanism is flawed in a great many fundamental ways. For instance, since left-select is *copy* you can never select something, copy it, select something else, and paste to overwrite it.

      The latter functionality is perhaps the one thing that *every other computing platform in existence* has over X-based GUI world.

    4. Re:Nope by jchristopher · · Score: 1

      Oh, I see. I was hoping for an iCab (mac browser) type solution, where you can choose to block all images of a certain size. Killing 468x60 pixels, for example, wipes out most banner ads. It is surprising to me that no Windows or Linux browsers have picked up this feature.

  28. why gnome by Anonymous+Pancake · · Score: -1

    Why is gnome still around? Everyone knows the best gui for linux is KDE. If people really want linux to move forward, they should support KDE. Linux desperately needs a standardized desktop. Pointless competition is only holding linux back.

    1. Re:why gnome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      "Pointless competition is only holding linux back."

      Funny, because competition between GNOME and KDE is *EXACTLY* what has made both GNOME and KDE mature so much.

      Why don't you send this message to gnome-devel-list or kde-devel-list?
      I'm sure you'll hear a lot of things you don't expect (such as that the GNOME vs KDE war does not exist).

    2. Re:why gnome by reaper20 · · Score: 2

      Please mod this up!

      I don't know about anyone else .. but I tend to flip back and forth between GNOME/KDE, usually sticking with the newest one. :)

      I don't care where anyone stands on the GNOME/KDE fence, but

      KDE environment with, iKons from kde-look.org, Galeon for browsing, Konqueror for file management (ftp support rocks), Evolution for mail, Xchat for irc, liquid from mosfet, and openoffice together as one complete desktop is a force to be reckoned with. If you think that GNOME is good, and KDE is good, together, they are even more impressive.

      That's why competition in Linux rules ... I take what I like best from each, and put them all together to form the uber-desktop ....

      (/me points all "you have to run multiple libraries" excuses to their local computer store for $30 of RAM)

    3. Re:why gnome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      such as that the GNOME vs KDE war does not exist

      It's definatly in the minds of some developers on both sides. That's what keeps innovation flowing.

      Go KDE/GNOME war! Whoohoo!

    4. Re:why gnome by burtonator · · Score: 2

      >> "Pointless competition is only holding linux
      >> back."

      > Funny, because competition between GNOME and KDE
      > is *EXACTLY* what has made both GNOME and KDE
      > mature so much.

      Really? Says who? You?!

      I think that competition is good in some cases but there are a LOT of overlapping areas with GNOME and KDE.

      We don't have to compete on EVERYTHING do we?

      After all, a lot of OSS projects have no competition and they do fine. The only competition is lack of a feature set.

      We don't need duplicate file formats. We don't need duplicate icon sets and teams. We don't need separate configuration mechanisms.

      ... etc...

      I think things are stabilizing though. QT is now GPL and I it looks like the KDE and GNOME teams are cooperating.

      Kevin

    5. Re:why gnome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >QT is now GPL

      Qt has been GPL for about a year now. Don't say "now". It's happened for a while now.

    6. Re:why gnome by moZer · · Score: 1

      my GOD that's almost the exact same setup as I run at work! spooky...only I run ns6.2 for browsing.

      * * *

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    7. Re:why gnome by stesch · · Score: 1
      Funny, because competition between GNOME and KDE is *EXACTLY* what has made both GNOME and KDE mature so much.

      Do KDE-developers really think GNOME is competing with them?

  29. body parts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    It was a warm day in Ithaca, NY. Just warm enough to wear shorts and not be too cold. I had just picked up my bus ticket and baggage tag for my trip home to Buffalo. I was visiting my best friend for the weekend. I filled out all the necessary information on my baggage tag and went to give it to the bus driver. Then, out of the corner of my eye, I saw the most unbelievable looking girl I'd ever seen. She was tall, blond, very well-endowed, and dressed in the SHORTEST skirt I'd ever seen in my life. No stockings underneath or anything! We exchanged smiles as I handed my luggage over to the driver.

    I gave my friend a good-bye hug and got on the bus and sat down. It began to fill up quickly and the only seat left was the one next to me. A deep, sexy, female voice asked me if the seat was taken. I looked up, and there was the girl I saw while checking my luggage! I silently cleared my throat and, in my radio voice said "No, have a seat." She smiled and said "Thanks, I will." She had only 1 bag with her and as she reached to put it in the baggage compart- ment above our heads, her skirt raised so far up that I could see the bottom of her delicious pussy. She wasn't even wearing panties! My teeth almost dropped onto the floor. She put the bag up there and sat down. She introduced herself, "Hi, I'm Tiffany. What's your name?" I smiled and said, "I'm (I had to think) Tom. Are you from Ithaca?" "No, I'm from Buffalo, you?" was her reply. I was amazed that she was from Buffalo. That meant that she would be sitting with me the entire 4 hour ride there. I told her of my place of origin and she made a comment on the coincidence.

    The bus got ready to leave. The driver closed the door, made the usual pre-departure announcements, and we were off. As we left the station, the driver turned on the air conditioning. It took a few minutes to get back to where were sitting but when it did, I started to get cold. Tiffany did also. I could see the goose bumps forming on her perfectly shaped, tan thighs. After a while it got a little too cold for comfort. She asked me, "Are you cold?" To which I responded, "kind of." She said, "I've got an idea" and with that, got up and reached into her bag (again revealing her sumptuous snatch) and got out a somewhat large blanket. She said, "Do you wanna share this blanket?" It didn't sound like anything promising, but I replied in the affirmative. She draped the blanket over our legs and we rode on. I was a little disappointed because I now could no longer get a glimpse of those incredible legs of hers. But there was a plus to all this. She wouldn't be able to see my hard-on. She also brought down a magazine with the blanket which she promptly started reading. Realizing that she didn't want to talk any longer, I put on the headphones to the walkman that sat in my lap. When the tape was over, I took it out and wanted to get another one. I glanced over at Tiffany. She was asleep with the magazine in he lap. Anyway, I reached under the blanket to get my next tape from my back pack and inadvertently ran my hand down the side of her leg. Her skin was so smooth and the perfume she was wearing was making me horny. As I rummaged through my back pack for the tape I wanted, I felt her leg move up against my arm. I then put the tape in my right hand and ran my left hand back up her leg. She seemed to like it because she moved her leg up and down until I did it again. I moved my hand in a sort of circular motion on her knee and then moved up to her thigh. I stayed on the outside at first, then I moved to the front of it. I stayed there for awhile and then I began to feel adventurous. I casually moved my hand towards the inner part of her thigh about at the knee. I massaged that area 2 or three times and moved back a bit farther. I repeated this pattern until I was at about the middle of her thigh. I was getting very horny and my cock was extremely hard. Her legs were not completely together, but not far enough apart that I could try to massage her pussy. I decided to "test the water" and I moved my hand farther back until I was almost at the junction of her legs. She then rectified the situation of the lack of space between her legs by spreading them and slouching down in the seat. I couldn't believe it. I moved my hand to her pussy. It was very warm. I gently ran my hand around the surface of it to sort of tease her a bit. She started rocking her hips a little which was a definite sign that she wanted more. I began to put some more pressure on her pussy and it was clear she was aroused because I could feel her wetness. I moved up and down her outer lips and up to her clit. I started playing with her clit lightly at first, then increasing my speed and force. She started to breathe more heavily now and she was moving her hips against my hand. By this time I was hard as a rock and I moved my hand down from her clit and put my finger inside her hole. She loved that, especially when I put 2 fingers in there! She began to moan softly and she moved her hand to reach under my shorts and grab my rock-hard cock! I then turned my hand so that I could finger-fuck her and massage her swollen clit at the same time. She moved her pussy back and forth faster now to move with my rhythm. She grabbed me harder and started jerking me off. Finally, things got real hot, I turned to her and said, "Don't you think we should go somewhere more private so we can do all kinds of NASTY things to each other?" As I said this I moved my hand even harder and faster. She could only nod yes and moan in response.

    I slowed down, then stopped. We got up and left the blanket, walkman, and magazine on the seats and headed for the bathroom. On the way back, I started to wonder if anyone would hear us. However, I remembered that the engine was back there also, so that probably wouldn't be a problem. We got in there and locked the door. I sat her up on the sink and we started kissing deeply. I started massaging her thighs with both hands this time and she began to moan in excitement. I whipped out my member (which by this time was hard enough to cut diamonds!) and moved it towards her. She then said, "No. Wait. I want you to fuck me but first I want you to eat me. I wanna have my first orgasm in your mouth!" I then proceeded to remove her top and her big, beau- tiful tits popped out. She wasn't even wearing a bra (like that was a big surprise). I stopped thinking about the issue of her dressing style and set to my task. I moved her hips forward onto the sink and got on my knees. I put my mouth up to her inviting tuna taco and blew on it. She liked that alot. I did that for a minute or so. Then I started licking the insides of her thighs and stopped right before I got to the intended target. I did this a few times and it drove her absolutely nuts! I finally started licking her cunt itself. She was one of those women who doesn't even have an odor except for the baby powder that she must have used when she showered. So, upon discovering that she had no alarming scent, I dove right in there. The sudden change from almost no licking to what I was doing now made her twitch and moan loudly. I flicked her clit with my tongue and stopped occasionally to catch my breath. I then took her clit into my mouth and sucked on it. I could tell by her hips bucking that she was gonna come! I didn't want her to just yet. So I turned my atten- tion to her hole! I put my tongue in there and moved my head back and forth so that I could literally fuck her with my tongue. When I felt that now familiar bucking of her hips and her grabbing of her tits and screaming, I stopped. I faked that I was out of breath so that I could get my hand in position. After seeing that she had calmed down, I took my middle finger and stuck it in her hole and started sucking on her clit at the same time using my teeth. I did it hard and fast. She started screaming again and she was gonna come! I thought of stopping again, but I was so horny for this girl that I wanted her to spill her female juices of love all over my face. And that's exactly what she did! I licked and swallowed until I got every last drop. After I got to my feet and started massaging her tits, she grabbed my cock and said, "FUCK ME!"

    Boy, what a neat idea. Why didn't I think of that? I told her that since she was holding on to my rod, she could put it in. I grabbed her by the waist and, as soon as my cock was in position, thrusted up inside her. The combination of the action while we were in our seats, the recent adventure of the tongue, and the anticipation of fucking her brains out was almost too much for me. I moved back and forth at a good speed which made her squirm and scream with ectasy! She leaned back and grabbed onto these 2 handles next to the mirror. When she did this, I bent over and, while fucking her, started sucking on her jugs. She was wet, wild, and willing! Speaking of wetness, I could feel my hot cream welling up getting ready to explode. I didn't want to come yet. I wanted to save it for the very last wave of sex. However, she didn't want to save it, she started gyrating and almost hollering! I could feel her orgasm come out in one large tidal wave. The warmth of her juices surrounded my red- hot meat slab. I slowed down a little to allow her to calm down. She looked at me and licked her lips. She said, "OK stud, your turn, sit down!"

    I climbed out of my shorts and sat down on the toilet. Then, she stepped out of her skirt and knelt down in front of me. My cock was standing straight up. She took it in her left hand and started massaging my nuts with her right hand. As she did this, she started licking the length of my cock and darting her tongue back and forth on the head. It was driving me absolutely crazy! Then she took it all in her mouth with one swift movement. She started sucking on it like it was a straw,desperately trying to get the juice out ofit. I was going absolutely wild. This girl could probably suck a golf ball through 20 feet of garden hose! Finally, I could feel myself about to come. I didn't want to just yet, but her talented mouth on my wankie was not about to let me hold it back. I started fucking her mouth like it was her pussy and shot my load into it. She was so happy that she made me come all over the inside of her mouth, that she started to moan real loud and greedily swallow and suck.

    After I lubricated her mouth with my hot cream, she stood up and I grabbed her by the waist and, making her straddle the toilet seat and my legs, positioned her box right over my pole. When she was properly placed, I grabbed her ass cheeks and pulled them towards me to wrap that cunt of hers right around my dick! She began grinding and moaning and I grabbed her hips and grinded her faster. I was so hot for her, that I didn't care how fast we went, as long as we kept on fucking. Her pussy felt so good around my cock. It was so soft and satiny inside and it was rubbing on all the right places on me. She stuck her chest out and I started sucking on her tits again. It didn't take very long before she started howling and exploded into yet another orgasm. I was close behind her with my jet spray of sex juice! We slowed down and let the motion of the bus control our movements while we relaxed. Then I kissed her deeply and said, "It's not over yet Tiffany, it's time for the grand finale. Stand up."

    As she stood up, I leaned forward and started eating her snatch for about 30 seconds just to get her going again. Then I stood up, turned her around and had her put her hands on the toilet seat. I rubbed her ass first with my hand, then with my cock. After a few minutes of this, I stuck it in her pussy. Then after a minute, I put one hand on her clit, and one hand on her tit. She grabbed her other tit and started screaming and slapping her ass against my thighs. She couldn't control herself. I asked her if she liked being fucked that way. She could only respond "Oooooooooooooh yeeeeeeeeeeeah!" The sexual pleasure from my fucking her, rubbing her clit, and having both her tits played with at the same time, made her start to cum continuously. I could also feel my hot giz begin to boil. I knew I was gonna cum any minute. It was gonna be the best orgasm yet. I wanted hers to be too. So as I could feel myself start to cum, I started fucking her faster, rubbing her clit harder, and kneading her tit more forcefully. She did her tit more forcefully too. Well, this did exactly what I wanted it to do. In fact, we both exploded into such an orgasm, that it left us shouting at the top of our lungs for at least a minute. That may not seem like a long time, but when you're doing it, it does. We were screaming so loud that I'm sure the entire bus could hear us, but neither of us cared.

    When we finished, we did some "afterplay" to gradually bring us down from that "high" we were on from all that wondrous copulation. We got dressed, opened the door to the bathroom, and walked back to our seats. As we were walking back, a guy looked up and me, smiled, and gave me the old "thumbs up" routine. Obviously, he heard us.

    The bus pulled in to Buffalo. We got off the bus and got our luggage and went inside the bus station. As we waited for our rides to pick us up, we exchanged addresses and phone numbers. She asked me if I wanted to get together sometime soon. I said, "You bet! I've got an in-ground pool and my parents are going out of town next month." She smiled and licked her lips. My ride arrived and we said goodbye.

    1. Re:body parts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably an e-mail forwarded story. It seems to have formatting problems (stupid < + firm word-wrapping!)

      http://www.slut-sex-stories.com/slut_stories_dir ec tory/thebustrip.txt

  30. What else did you expect? IT'S A BETA VERSION!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess you don't know what "beta software" means...

  31. Re:Why does S,V and W look ugly with AA by Khalid · · Score: 2

    Whenever I see screenshots of KDE and Gnome, the letters W,S and V look just really ugly, is this a problem which is going to be fixed as AA mature ?

  32. "everyone's excited and confused" by htmlboy · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    ...is a lyric from Man, it's So Loud in Here, from They Might Be Giants' new album, Mink Car.


    They revamped the airport completely,
    now it looks just like a nightclub,
    everyone's excited and confused...


    go gnome!

    1. Re:"everyone's excited and confused" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Really? Really? They Might Be Giants? That's so awesome! They Might Be Giants are so fucking incredibly amazingly awesome! They're such big stars! I wish I could gaze upon them in all their glory! Will they ever gaze upon me as a peer? Could I ever be like them? I just don't know. Oh, I just don't know.

    2. Re:"everyone's excited and confused" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No shit. No wonder GNOME is so fucking gay.

  33. You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    are a dumbass.

    1. Re:You by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Whatsematter? Can't handle the truth?

  34. HAHA by ForWhomTheHellTrolls · · Score: -1, Troll

    HAHA you linux idiots are so retarded and pathetic it makes me laugh HAHAHAAHAHAHA

  35. What are you talking about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a totally useful, informative site. Please don't spread rumors like this on slashdot, the most reliable, accurate news site in the business!

  36. snooze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    You should post anonymously from now on.

    -- everyone else on slashdot

  37. Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 4, Informative
    From GNOME 2.0 Release Schedule and KDE 3.0 Release Plan:

    • December 10: KDE 3.0 Beta1 release
    • January 14: KDE 3.0 RC 1 release
    • January 16: Gnome 2.0 Desktop Beta 1
    • January 30: Gnome 2.0 Desktop Beta 2
    • February 20: Gnome 2.0 Desktop Release Candidate 1
    • February 25: KDE 3.0 Final release*
    • March 15: Gnome 2.0 Desktop Final


    * (or RC 2 in case it is necessary)

    Notice how the planned GNOME releases are closer together than the KDE releases. Is there any indication when GNOME 2.1 will be out? KDE usually takes 4/5 months between releases, so I expect KDE 3.1 in July, with a 3.1.1 bugfix release in August and of course a 3.0.1 bugfix release at the end of March of begin of April.

    GNOME did not have as many recent releases as KDE has with the 2.x series (GNOME underwent the same large overhaul as KDE did during the transition to KDE2), so what kind of a release schedulet can we expect of GNOME after 2.0?
    1. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      december 10 release fo kde 3 beta1? w00t

      go kde developers!

    2. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Omg, jeez. 3 weeks between KDE 2.2.2 and KDE 3.0 beta 1? Holy shiat, that's fast.

      I've been waiting for GNOME 2 for over a year and a half :A

    3. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 2, Informative
      Omg, jeez. 3 weeks between KDE 2.2.2 and KDE 3.0 beta 1? Holy shiat, that's fast.


      It's been longer since KDE 2.2.0, which is what you should look at. KDE 3.0 development started after the 2.2 release. Thank the support for different branches in CVS that 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 were bugfixed and release simultaneously to KDE 3.0.


      I've been waiting for GNOME 2 for over a year and a half :A


      The difference between KDE 2.2 and KDE 3.0 is not much bigger than the difference between 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2; except for the port to Qt3 (not dramatically changed from Qt2) and some binary incompatble changes.


      GNOME is in the same phase as KDE was with the 1.1.2 to 2.0 transition: a drastically changed underlying toolkit and a redesign or reimplementation of many core features. Don't forget it took KDE a long time as well until 2.0 was released. It was worth it, as the new framework allowed for many successful 2.x releases. Hopefully the same will be true for the GNOME 2.x series.

    4. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Thank the support for different branches in CVS that 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 were bugfixed and release simultaneously to KDE 3.0.

      Imho, this is what is most lacking in terms of GNOME. There needs to be more regular updates! They seemed to go from GNOME 1.0 to GNOME 1.2 to GNOME 1.4 without anything in between.

    5. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, GNOME 2 is basically a port of GNOME to gtk2, just like the KDE transition from qt2 to qt3. The 'totally upgraded framework' is the inclusion of Bonobo. Oh wait, that was in GNOME 1.4 as well. In other words, don't expect much from GNOME 2, in fact the user probably will not notice much difference at all, except new themes etc. Since it is difficult to port from GNOME 1 to 2, you might actually have to wait some time before older GNOME apps to be upgraded like Gnumeric, Abiword. Nautilus has only been running for a few weeks on the new platform.

    6. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly, it breaks binary compatability.

      gnome 1.x -> gnome 2.x will be pretty much like going from kde 2.x to kde 3.x.
      it's not exactly a rewrite like kde 2.0 was.

      which begs the question.. why did gnome2 take such a long time?

    7. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      which begs the question.. why did gnome2 take such a long time?

      We can blame it on RMS.

    8. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wait wait wait!@#

      I want to blame ESR!

      Can I? Can I?

      Just this once, pretty please!@

    9. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by jdub! · · Score: 1

      Hi there,

      The original poster (see here) was correct - the GNOME 2.0 platform is actually a substantial API change, which is far greater than simple ABI incompatibility and new APIs.

      It means that instead of being able to simply recompile, apps also need to be ported to the new and changed APIs.

      The GTK+ family of libraries, and the GNOME libraries have seen a huge amount of development; this is why the release - by no means just pretty buttons on your desktop, it's an entire development platform - has taken some time.

      Thus, this release is far more similar to the KDE 1.x -> 2.x release cycle as mentioned in the comment linked above.

    10. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by spudnic · · Score: 1

      * March 15: Gnome 2.0 Desktop Final

      Beware the Ides of March!


      --
      load "linux",8,1
    11. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but you are not really correct either. KDE 1.x -> KDE 2.x was pretty much a rewrite of 90% of things in kdelibs. GNOME 1.x to GNOME 2.x is NOT a 90% rewrite in code in libgnome.

      I'd place it in between KDE 1.x->2.x and KDE 2.x->3.x. It's still a shame the GNOME2 was delayed for such a long time, as it was supposed to be out last summer as promised, but PLEASE remember people, these things take time!

    12. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. ESR is the prophet of Allah. RMS is the agent of Satan.

      Allah be with KDE. Jihad against FSF infadels!

    13. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by jdub! · · Score: 1

      The massive changes are at the GTK+ family level, not the GNOME libraries level. We didn't have to rewrite libgnome. ;)

    14. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you talking about, asshead.

      Gnome 2 is a top to bottom rewrite. As for regular releases... get Ximian GNOME and redcarpet. The GNOME project upgrades the seperate components regularly and does a big release infrequently, bumping the main version number - the KDE project changes an icon in KDE 2.1 and releases KDE 2.2 (best eva vershun!) as one big honking mess.

      KDE plays version number games to please the proles (go KDE! KDE rawks!)... see KDE 2.x to KDE 3.x as an example. If GNOME did the same thing it would already be 7.0.

    15. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by jonathan_ingram · · Score: 1

      Here is KDE's version increase plan:
      a.b.c
      'a' gets incremented when it will be binary incompatible with the previous version.
      'b' gets incremented when there are additional binary compatible features
      'c' gets incremented when bugs are fixed (although some features slip in from time to time)

      Now, I don't know if Gnome have broken binary compatibility 7 times, as you imply. If they have, that's not something to be proud of.

    16. Re:Be prepared for lots of new desktops! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Gnome 2 is a top to bottom rewrite.

      No it is not. It is a port of Gnome 1 to gtk+ 2.0.

      gtk+ itself was rewritten between 1.2 and 2.0, but almost none of GNOME was. Only the APIs were cleaned up a bit and old depreceated functions were removed. But it's hardly a rewrite.

  38. Re:Why does S,V and W look ugly with AA by Rob+Kaper · · Score: 1
    I'm not too happy with the capital X and small k myself. Although it helps to have the right fonts (Microsofts free web font collection) installed and to have a good XftConfig, anti-aliasing isn't 100% perfect yet.


    This is mostly an issue with XFree. The noticable improvements between 4.0 and 4.1 should give hope for even better results in the future. I've heard from XFree86 CVS users that there are indeed many more improvements in several areas. Looking forward to XFree 4.2, or the next 4.1.

  39. Desktops in General by bluenirve · · Score: 1

    Finally! With this, I think all the Linux GUI's will be better off. Wow, I remember when GUI ment small boxes that had no shadowing, and such. But what ever did happen to those many old desktops we used before?

  40. NO IT DOESN'T! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't come.

  41. what about performance? by nusuth · · Score: 1

    performance of gnome 1.4 (?) sucked, I endee up using kde, falling back to gonme apps under it too often. I believe botb destktop environments are quite ready for prime time, feature-wise. But both suck in terms of performace, windows 2k runs waaaay faster. SO I guess they would something about speed in gnome 2.0, and that something shouldn't be 10%-20%. KDe is already lost, 3.0 alpha is out and beta is near. Gnome 2.0 is our only hope. (help me obi van...[well, I'm as drunk as I could be, bear with me will you?])

    --

    Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room!

    1. Re:what about performance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, KDE is speedy if you have plenty of RAM installed, and GNOME isn't bad if you have a plenty fast CPU.

      But, just compare it to OSX 10.1. It needs a fast CPU, and plenty of RAM.

    2. Re:what about performance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      You're drunk? Oh, getting drunk is fun, isn't it? It feels really good to drink until you can't control yourself anymore. Who needs a sound mind anyway? And getting drunk will make you look like a real stud with the girls, too. That's the part I like about it best. It's fun to get drunk, that's for sure!

  42. Nautilus w/ RH 7.2 by KidSock · · Score: 1

    Is there any fix for the Nautilus problems on RH 7.2? If I turn Nautilus off the icons and right-click menu go with it.

    1. Re:Nautilus w/ RH 7.2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      this is because nautilus is used to draw the desktop including the icons as well as used for the right click menu used for file management. Basically this is not a bug.

    2. Re:Nautilus w/ RH 7.2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gnome uses nautilus to draw the desktop draw your own conclusions. Of course, you could install ximian and use gmc instead of nautilus.

    3. Re:Nautilus w/ RH 7.2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RH comes with GMC too. No need to get Ximian's GNOME just to run GMC.
      I still can't understand how Nautilus can be shipped in stable distributions. I think it's a nice concept study demonstrating additional features that could be implemented in a future file manager - in addition to all features implemented in GMC, windoze Exploder, Dir Opus Magellan or any other file manager! It's painfully slow and it misses basic features (like archive browsing, package management, simple god-damn file renaming without having to open a god-damn "Properties" dialogue, it scatters .nautilus-crap.xml and thumbnail files all over the system, it claims it handles your desktop but can't even handle placing your icons and shortcuts properly, et c., et c.). It's so slow it's unusable. I also think it's too damn slow. Did I mention it's slow? It takes 9 seconds to open a listview with 68 files. This is on a PIII-500 and a LVD/U160 SCSI disk. With image/text previews the time would have been unimaginably abysmal. And it doesn't even show file permissions/owners - you have to open that god-damn Properties window for that! As a comparison, Directory Opus Magellan opens a listview with ~200 entries in less than a second on my Amiga 4000 040/25MHz(!).

    4. Re:Nautilus w/ RH 7.2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I guess redhat would include gmc- I was just thinking that ximian has that nice configurator (doorman?) which gives you a clear choice. I don't remember being presented with such a choice with redhat 7.2 on install or gnome start up; but I guess some option would be there or at least should be. Yes, Nautilus is slow and stuff. It is a shame that Eazel had to go under- I would of liked to see them fix the damn thing. I think Nautilus was pushed out too early just because Eazel was hoping to start seeing some revenue from their service subscription model.

  43. Clueful competition by Christopher+B.+Brown · · Score: 2
    Both systems can try various ideas, and see which turn out to be valuable.

    Those that are, are likely to get implemented by the other system, perhaps even more cleanly. Both environments, for instance, seem to have burgeoning efforts surrounding the IETF calendaring and address standards; they may even become interoperable by virtue of there being IETF standards :-).

    Those ideas that turn out to be horrid can be learned from and avoided.

    After all, it's not as if throwing all the people onto one project would necessarily lead to higher productivity. Double the team sizes, and communications costs diminish productivity :-(.

    There are doubtless some jibes back and forth, here and there, but if they were spending 80% of their time flaming one another, they wouldn't get much code written...

    --
    If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
  44. hey guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. I put up my own list of GNOME 2 screenshots here.

    I like it, but it has seemed to slow down a bit. Also, looks much more windows-ish XIMIAN Gnome did.

    1. Re:hey guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cool... here is my desktop running GNOME 2.0 rcb1.

      Keep in mind my connect is slow, so it may take a second to load up :/

    2. Re:hey guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, that was totally lame but you got me regardless. Kudos.

    3. Re:hey guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool. Is that TigerT himself?

    4. Re:hey guys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no its miguel

  45. Re:Why does S,V and W look ugly with AA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you compile in the (illegal because of apple's patents) antialiasing renderer into libfreetype2, antialiasing looks 100% better.

  46. Because of CopyLEFT? by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 1

    Maybe that has something to do with it?

    --
    We do not live in the 21st century. We live in the 20 second century.
  47. Feh! I say! Here's one with Old Gnome by Greyfox · · Score: 2
    --

    I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?

    1. Re:Feh! I say! Here's one with Old Gnome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      You are one sad man...

      Need to compensate for something? No boobs in your life, so you need to show a bunch of boobies to the rest of the world?

    2. Re:Feh! I say! Here's one with Old Gnome by MicroBerto · · Score: 0, Troll

      You forgot to mention that there's a penis in there too!

      --
      Berto
  48. Explorer Issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too many choices, which is why MS has DROPPED uber security support for anything below exploder 5.5, so those that dont want the extra bloat/insecurity fearures are left in the lurch.
    Besides, what will happen when Compaq is allowed to skin its own interface - choices.

  49. Can't, really by Scurrilous+Knave · · Score: 1

    Cuz it's not just a foot, it's a stylized letter "G", for GNOME.


    (If we started using backward letters, Toys Backward-R Us would sue so fast ...)

  50. I concur .. by Macka · · Score: 1


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    Yeah, this has been my experience too. Turnng on AA sends memory usage through the roof and also slows down application start time. Go mad and stick 1,000 TT fonts on your system, and it takes between 30 secs and 1 min to start any apps at all. KDE has some serious problems to work out with anti-aliasing.

    Btw, using TT fonts also makes a pigs-ear of "Print to PDF" (which uses ps2pdf) producing very ratty looking output. I imaging that Gnome users will run into this problem too, as that's a Ghostscript issue.

  51. Wheel reinvention by DGolden · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Question - has there been any progress made on bringing the respective component models of KDE and GNOME any closer together? It'd be nice to be able to embed a Bonobo component in a KParts document, perhaps itself embedded in a StarOffice or even Mozilla framework. How fundamentally different are KParts/DCOP, Bonobo/CORBA, StarOffice/UNO, Mozilla/XPCOM, Java/JavaBeans, Microsoft OLE/COM, (probably Xt belongs in this list too...), will there ever be any hope of unifying them a bit better ???

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    1. Re:Wheel reinvention by pclminion · · Score: 2
      DCOP, CORBA, UNO, XPCOM, COM, JavaBeans, etc were all created with the same goal in mind: enabling transparent RPC between desktop and server applications, cross-network and cross-platform. As far as I know, none have succeeded in this dream.

      DCOP: although I was excited about DCOP the first time I saw it, it hasn't evolved very much since then and has never reached the level of flexibility that complicated distributed RPC apps demand.

      CORBA: on the opposite end of the spectrum from DCOP, CORBA is bloated and slow, but it runs on almost every UNIX and maybe that will be what saves it.

      COM/DCOM: to be perfectly honest, MS has done a fairly good job with these. Too bad they are built on an ABI centered around little-endian Intel machines running WIndows. I wonder what will be the fate of COM/DCOM when Microsoft moves over to Itanium...

      What we really need is an efficient, cross-platform RPC system with full security mechanisms, transactions, synchronous and asynchronous modes, which can bridge the gap between fully distributed RPC systems such as CORBA and fully internalized component systems such as COM. It needs to be language-independent, fast, and use little memory.

      I wish all the smart people working on all these systems would stop one-upping each other every other month and actually sit down to design something we can all agree on and use. Every program on every platform out there could benefit from that.

    2. Re:Wheel reinvention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > DCOP: although I was excited about DCOP the first time I saw it, it hasn't evolved very much since then and has never reached the level of flexibility that complicated distributed RPC apps demand.

      That's why DCOP is extremely "bridgeable" to other forms of transport. The problem is that people haven't used these bridges much. The dcop->xmlrpcd bridge was defaultly run from kde 2.0 to kde 2.1, but was disabled in kde 2.2 because people simply didn't use it. Maybe a SOAP bridge will be used more. Theoretically, one could make a bridge for Bonobo too.

    3. Re:Wheel reinvention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given that there are existing Bonobo/CORBA applications, but no pure-XMLRPC based GUI component frameworks that I know of, I can't help but feel that a dcop->xmlrpc bridge wasn't particularly useful, but a CORBA one could be....

      Even then, you still need to bridge the conventions too, like how to translate a KParts XML class deployment descriptor into the Bonobo equivalent (if any ?), so that things like toolbars, menus, and, most importantly, component serialisation/persistence work across the bridge..

  52. GNUStep is better to program it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GNOME 2.0 doesnt have the elegance of a real OO
    framework, like GNUStep.

  53. Gnome and Kde need to cooperate more by ilovekimmy · · Score: 1
    Gnome and Kde are both part of the linux desktop, and from what i've seen, they need to cooperate more. Just because there is not a war going on between them doesn't mean they couldn't use improved relations. There is not enough interopablity. IMHO, that is the area they most need to work on. This doesn't mean merging the projects or anything like that. This means making them work together, and making them share things where appropriate. Maybe even taking some things out of themselves and moving them into a shared lower level.

    It would be nice if they should share things like themes and configuration options. I should be able to say i want my default window background color blue, and most windows should listen and do that. I shouldn't have to say i want my GTK+ windows blue, then say again i want my QT windows blue, then say again i want my xyzlib windows blue, etc.

    More shared standards!

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  54. war does not exsist!!! or maybe........ by theneoprotocol · · Score: 1

    Funny you should mention that, because I have had a similiar situation occur with me. My Dad, not a big PC user(just likes to take digital pics and play games) didnt realize that i repartitoned the pc and put mandrake on it. He saw reconfiguring it and to my surprise he was more excited of the operation and use compared to windows. Needless to say he wants to play with it once i show him the uses of it. Ill reply back once i see his unbias opinion.

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  55. Will the window manager(s) stop acting like macs? by leereyno · · Score: 2

    I'd use gnome if one simple thing would get fixed. When you click on the titlebar of a window I think it should maximize. This shading business is silly. Shading windows in a GUI that lacks a minimize button/feature is a necessity, but in a proper GUI it doesn't really need to be there, let alone be the ONLY option available. At the very least users should be able to configure this behavior. I keep waiting and hoping that this will be corrected but so far nothing has happened. Until it does I'm sticking with KDE or IceWM sans gnome.

    Lee

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  56. Re:Will the window manager(s) stop acting like mac by ed__ · · Score: 1

    you can change this in the sawfish window manger setup. i've got double clicking the titlebar of the window set to toggle maximize/unmaximize on all the computers i use.