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Animate Your LILO
clarkie.mg writes: "Most linux users still see the four letters LILO when booting the PC. It's now possible to have some cool graphics at boot time with the animated LILO. You can even play a game !" Be careful of the French.
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But since I try to reboot about once in a month (due to upgrades), I won't see much of it :)
GO HERE to give Windows a Goatse makeover!
--Metrollica
Does anyone know if there is something similar for grub?
Now if they'd just come up with something to let me play Missile Command while my system boots... }:)
http://www.gamers.org/~quinet/lilo/penguins-en.htm l
Google's Translataion can be found here.
Make even shorter URLs - 8LN.org
there's also an english version here....
it's funny that the x-ray images are from a powerbook titanium G4. That thing uses a different bootloader, last I had SuSE on a mac.
"Let him go, Ralph. He knows what he's doing." --Otto Mann (simpsons)
Cool Graphics
Game
Make even shorter URLs - 8LN.org
How about (to make things a little more exciting) if you miss the ball without hitting n (a randomly selected number ) bricks, there is a 1 in 10 chance that your bootsector gets wiped.
It would really help increase average uptimes, as admins would find new and innovative ways to avoid having to reboot.
Linux would reach the tops of the Netcraft uptime chart in no time!
this is a pretty silly gimmick.
Unless of course you are a 31337 h4x0r and you need to make sure that your leetness is evident by displaying a graffito-style image during your notebooks boot cycle while you have it illegally patched into the pay phone from which you are hacking the defence servers.
Or of course, i suppose you could use it to display some sort of reminder to take this opportunity to grab yourself a bite to eat in the middle of your 20 hour coding sessions.
lysergically yours
Imagine a beowulf cluster of these!
Geesh... VGA mode -- which means you need some sort of support with your card (some old laptops don't).
:)
But how about doing it in TextMode, animating each group of characters? I think PC Tools did it with their on-screen Text-mode mouse pointer which actually looked like a mouse pointer.
Of course, having a Penguin on the first three or so lines of my screen in text mode all the time would help too.
--
# Canmephians for a better Linux Kernel
$Stalag99{"URL"}="http://stalag99.net";
There is more info on the animated boot screen here with a nice large screenshot.
There is also a warning on the site for people planning on trying this out:
Before you try this, have a boot floppy ready. If something doesn't go as planned, you could RENDER YOUR SYSTEM UNBOOTABLE. You have been warned.
--Metrollica
Oh wait! let us play xbill on the boot screen. If Bill wins, the system boots Windows. If I win, I get my Linux back.
Yet another reason to use GRUB.
http://cmdrtaco.net/rants/penis.shtml
- The BOFH Troll
Ok, anyone who whines about slashdot reporting this software release should be shot.
I don't mean to sound as if I'm a pointless loser who tweaks the crap out of linux all day (uhh...) but I haven't had my jaw drop when looking at a screenshot for a LONG time (maybe since some early FVWM-XPM release (which later became E (by the way, anyone who bitches about E, enlightenment combined with nice free gui toolkits revolutionized the look of the linux desktop.. but E really gave it flair that many WMs have now.. anyway (too much parenthetical nesting))))
so this is one of those statements like the one on the aalib (ansi) quake page, which says, if you have to ask why, you are not a member of the intended audience
The english link of the story is here.
Here are instructions on how to make your very own LILO boot screens.
;)
But to do this you need a few prerequisites.
... know what The GIMP is.
... have already installed and activated The GIMP.
... know how to accomplish simple drawing activities.
... have already installed the LILO Splash Screen Script-Fu.
... know how to activate the LILO Splash Screen Script-Fu.
... know what you want
--Metrollica
Great, now if there is a problem booting the OS, LILO can say:
"Error: could not boot OS. Do you want to play a game instead?"
That's user friendly.
Hey, I object to the comment "Be careful of the French".
We are just regular people you know, we eat crème brulée every day just like the rest of you, drink expensive red wine while making silly faces as any normal person would, use our regular quota of "Oh la vache!" and "Sacrebleu", have run-o' the mill girl names and our poo smells like rose just like everybody else's
So there!
Look, that's why there's rules, understand? So that you think before you break 'em. (Terry Pratchett)
for every time I've heard/seen that disclaimer.... "be careful of the french"
The world is switching to GRUB.
You lucky, lucky bastard!
I can't even get mine to say more than "LI" =P
Linux is so boring. I can have clouds and stuff when I start Windows XP.
Dude, you should have bought a Dell!
The owls are not what they seem
From what I can tell, it's only SuSE's particular version of LILO that will be able to use this by default. Are any of their hooks being rolled back in to the upstream source so that the rest of us don't need a help page to get this working? Personally, LILO is not something I want to mess around with too much.
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
Freak.
The owls are not what they seem
Linux has finally thrown that dagger at the heart of microsoft - Bloatware and Eye Candy.
You are aiming for the same end user as M$ here - this will surely strike fear into the evil empire.
;)
Michael
There is no cryptographic solution to the problem where the intended receiver and the attacker are the same entity.
No need to re-install the bootloader every time you compile a new kernel, a command line at boot time and nice background graphics.
I can't understand why some people stick with LILO. Can it still boot at above 1024 cylinders?
The owls are not what they seem
I fart in your general direction! Your LILO was a hamster, and your kernel smelt of elderberries!
I am using the newest unstable/testing Debian :
/boot/breakout.boot is too big (> 65535 bytes)
;-)
Here's what I get when I try to install the Breakout (201195 bytes) on my laptop :
broomstick:~# lilo
Fatal:
I guess "something is rotten in the realm of Denmark"
Trolling using another account since 2005.
Windows XP makes it trivially easy to customize one's desktop. Linux, once you've determined which desktop you're running, (they're all trying to copy each other, so look the same), requires the editing of at least fifteen configuration files to do something as simple as changing the background color.
And don't even DARE to attempt to change the screen resolution. You'll be fcsk-ing your hard drive for days to come.
"Why did they cancel my favorite Sci-Fi show? I downloaded ALL the episodes!"
Now this is a good application for Tux Racer to handle... to you think you can just slide into that OS?
Not likely...
No I have to go out and buy some new hardware I don't need so that the drivers take longer to load, so that I can finish my game of break out before the boot is over. Maybe I could just fragment my hard drive...
burnboy
[King Arthur music]
[clop clop clop]
ARTHUR:
Halt!
[horn]
Hallo!
[pause]
Hallo!
FRENCH GUARD:
Allo! Who is eet?
ARTHUR:
It is King Arthur, and these are my Knights of the Round Table. Whose castle is this?
FRENCH GUARD:
This is the castle of my master, Guy de Loimbard.
ARTHUR:
Go and tell your master that we have been charged by God with a sacred quest. If he will give us a HowTo, he can join us in our quest for the Graphical Bootloader.
FRENCH GUARD:
Well, I'll ask him, but I don't think he'll be very keen. Uh, he's already got one, you see.
ARTHUR:
What?
GALAHAD:
He says they've already got one!
ARTHUR:
Are you sure he's got one?
FRENCH GUARD:
Oh, yes. It's very nice-a. (I told him we already got one.)
FRENCH GUARD:S
[chuckling]
ARTHUR:
Well, u-- um, can we come up and have a look?
FRENCH GUARD:
Of course not! You are Linux open-source types-a!
ARTHUR:
Well, what are you, then?
FRENCH GUARD:
I'm French! Why do think I have this outrageous accent, you silly king-a?!
GALAHAD:
What are you doing in England?
FRENCH GUARD:
Mind your own business!
ARTHUR:
If you will not show us the Grail, we shall take your castle by force!
FRENCH GUARD:
You don't frighten us, Linux pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottom, sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called Arthur King, you and all your silly Linux k-nnnnniggets. Thpppppt! Thppt! Thppt!
GALAHAD:
What a strange person.
ARTHUR:
Now look here, my good man--
FRENCH GUARD:
I don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
GALAHAD:
Is there someone else up there we could talk to?
FRENCH GUARD:
No. Now, go away, or I shall taunt you a second time-a!
[sniff]
From June 1971 to May 1997 I spent 26 years of my life in a State Penitentiary for First Degree Murder and Assault. Where the prison is, is irrelevant. The shit that happened to me in there, I may talk about one day, but that day is not today. Stile asked me to write about what its like to kill a person, and what its like to be free after doing it. In January 1970 I was 22 years old, about to graduate college and get on with my life. Unfortunately, I was nearly 50 years old before I was able to really do this. My senior year of college I was at a party with my girlfriend. We had a few drinks and were on this balcony over a frat house throwing bottles at cars in the street below. (Okay, maybe she wasn't, but she was watching me) It probably wasn't the best idea, but hey, I was wasted. The sound of breaking glass is that much better when you are drunk. Anyway, some frat boys saw me tossing shit off the balcony and got pissed. A few of them grabbed me and tried to kick me out of their house. The actually threw me down the stairs and then pulled me out the door, punching and kicking me as they went. I tried to fight back, but there was like 5 or 6 of the pricks. I got in a few punches, but I was on the losing end of that scuffle. So I am standing outside in the snow waiting for my girlfriend. After about 20 min, I decided to just go home, after all she was a big girl, and I was bleeding and cold. She drove, so I walked bout 2 miles home in the snow, leaving a trail of blood the whole way. I had this sweet cut around my eye and my nose felt broken. I got home and passed out on the floor of the bathroom. The next morning I got up and looked for my girlfriend. There was still vomit and blood on the floor, so I figured she never came home. This got me kinda worried, but I figured she just went to her place. I gave her a call and talked to her roommate. Evidently she hadn't been there either. Now I was worried. As it turned out, my girl of a year and a half, decided she would stay at the party. She started making out with the same pricks that just kicked my ass. She was drunk, but that's still really fucked up. I wanted to kill her, until I heard the rest of her story. What happened was, after she sobered up a bit, she decided to get the fuck out of there, but these frat boy mother fuckers stopped her. They kept telling her she had to stay and "help them out". These fuckers decided that they would try to get her to suck them all off. When she wouldn't, they held her down and took turns raping her. They finally let her go and she went to the hospital. She spent the night in the emergency room because she was bleeding a lot. I was crushed. She called the cops and filed a report. 3 months later 4 of them came to trial. I sat in the court room listening to testimony from my girl friend about how they savagely raped her, it was enough to drive anyone crazy. I then had to listen to these fuckers paint my girlfriend out to be a whore, and how it was consensual. The judge basically called her a slut and sent the frat boys on there way. I was so fucking mad I didn't know what to do. I thought about it for a few weeks. I knew I had to get even with these fuckers, but I didn't know what to do. I decided I would go to one of their party's and vandalize their house. Hopefully they wouldn't remember me and I could get away with straight fucking their shit up. On April 27th, 1970 I knocked on the door to the frat house. The guy who opened the door was one of the guys who raped my girlfriend. He recognized me immediately. Before any of us could say anything, I pulled out a pen and stabbed him 4 times in the neck. I was in shock. I had never seen so much blood in my life. He just kinda grabbed his neck and fell to the floor. He just looked up at me, rolled his eyes back and died. He just laid there. No one did a fucking thing. I closed the door and ran. I had my car there but I just kept running. Once again I made the 2 mile trek. this time the blood on my hands wasn't mine. Two hours later the cops picked me up. About a year later I was sentenced to 25 years to life for first degree murder. Since then I have tried to answer the question in my own head a million time. Why did I do it? Stile asked the the same question, and truthfully I don't know. I never had any intention of doing it. I just snapped. But I don't regret it at all. I can't say I would do it again if I had to do it over, but I certainty don't regret it. I think my main regret is that I only killed one of them. My girlfriend stayed with me for about a year after I was sentenced, but then she graduated and moved away. I haven't heard from her since. It broke my heart. That was the worst part. She was my life... Some of you may wonder what it is like in prison. Well, it is rough. when i first got there they treated me like i was a piece of meat. Many times in the night I was woken up by my cellmate, and he would force me to suck his cock. At first I tried to fight back, but he wa a lot bigger then I was, and would bash my head against the cold metal bars when I refused. After having my front teeth knocked out and five concussions I eventually gave in. He was a huge black guy and his cock must have been 12 inches. I really feel for girls that are raped, because now I know what it is like. The worst part is that they would make me swallow their cum, which tastes sort of like shnot. It is disgusting. After my cellmate would make me suck his cock, he then decided that it was time to fuck me up the ass. I was so scared, my legs were shaking. He spit in his hand and whiped it all over his dick, pulled my pants down and shoved his cock into my ass. I scream, it fucking hurt more than anything i ever felt in my life. I could feel my insides being torn open, and after what seemed like an eternity he came inside me, pulled his dick out and wiped it off on my face. I lay there in a pool of my own blood, shit and cum all over my face, and bloog and cum dripped out of my asshole. I needed 50 stiches around my asshole because it was torn the size of a grapefruit, and i couldnt walk for days. At least my farts don't make a sound when I let one go any more.
I've got an idea for an article. Why not do a big long feature on Jihad Johnny, and explain that he was bullied at school for being a geek, and that's why he made the conscious decision to sell out his country and become a traitor and a terrorist. And how giving him the death penalty would be proof that the bullying mentality carries on into federal legislature.
It would make a nice counterpart to your excellently researched "Messages from Kabul" article. If you like, we could get you an internet capable Commodore 64 for you to write it on.
"Why did they cancel my favorite Sci-Fi show? I downloaded ALL the episodes!"
I mean Jesus... why not just cut your dick off if you want to be sure no woman will ever touch you?
I must burn in hell, suffer and pay for my sins
But Gods the one who's losing, Satan always wins!
- A trendy Enlightenment style boot manager
- Animation of your favourite movie in the background
- A dragon stalking around
Then again, I have no ideas of what the potential or limit of this isthats nice. how about UT or NFS or Quake or something like that, maybe an IM or netscape running at LILO, man the people are really coming up with weird stuff. Well it could be useful. If I am undecisive about wether to go windoze or Linux then I can play a chance game to decide... very very productive... wait a minute i got a great idea. Howe about a random movie, if the movie is tragic i boot into one OS otherwise into other. And if its a french beauty its even better... I cant read french but i can sure see !
My Aurora : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o91ZsGwJYyg
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How could Linux reach good uptimes anymore whit that thing around?
I recall the bootblock games for the Amiga! who_Ot!
ended up playing space invaders on the bootblock more then actually using the utilities.
On old Pyramid 90x hardware (anyone remember them?) you could play Space Invaders on the system console, in what was known as the Console Operating System (COS) while the kernel was running. If you played too long, the console buffer would fill and the system would crash.
In other words, when you won, everyone else on the system lost.
Yes, thanks for the reminder -- they can be devious and underhanded and take advantage of you when you're at your most vunerable ;)
Although I've used LILO for many years, I think at this point I've pretty much converted over to the GNU GRand Unified Bootloader (GRUB).
What makes GRUB especially cool is that it doesn't need to be installed on the hard disk in order to boot systems from it. Not only can GRUB locate every hard disk in the system, not only does it understand different partitioning schemes (including BSD-style partitions), but it can also understand various filesystem structures. So if you forgot the name of that latest kernel image you wanted to test, GRUB will let you poke around the filesystem looking for it. GRUB even has a find command to do it for you.
GRUB also supports other systems by performing the traditional read-the-first-block-from-the-partition method using the chainloader command. This lets you boot other OSes whose filesystems GRUB doesn't understand.
Once you get past the arcane command syntax, GRUB turns out to be a wonderful tool. I recommend checking it out.
Schwab
Editor, A1-AAA AmeriCaptions
Quick google image search netted me zero occurances of my laptop (Dell Inspiron 4000) xrayed.
Anyone know how to get one outside of going to the airport running my laptop through the conveyor belt and asking "Can I get a snapshot of that?" at the security desk and getting myself thrown in jail?
I had been using a program called BarBoot that was a hacked LILO which displayed animated flames at bootup. I guess that was quite a while back, say before Redhat 6.
Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
Yes, you do need the SuSE version of LILO because this is the only version that includes support for callback functions and timer events. This is mandatory for making the animations work. All other versions of LILO can only display static images and do not let you choose where the menu is displayed, how the keyboard input should be handled, and so on.
This is explained on my help page.
By the way, if you go to a SuSE mirror site to download the required packages, you will find:
Have fun, but please read the warnings on my help page before playing with LILO.
-Raphaël
When will the first LILO virus be out :)
Klerck,
You are last weeks news.
Carp Floundersen has usurped your role.
English Version
People love to knock MIcrosoft for its bloatware yet here the Linux crowd are cooing over a boot
loader than can play games. Hello??! Double standards I think people! A boot loader is there
to boot the OS in the fastest and most efficient way possible, its NOT there to provide eye candy
for people with the attention span of a knat. If MS had done this with OSLoader you'd all be
jumping up and down laughing about it but because its LILO its ok isn't it?
And no I'm not one of the MS sheep, I've been using linux since version 1.1 back in 1995
probably before half of you even knew what unix was.
is the sense of emptyness in the Linux world that the free availability has brought.
Even Linux needs a place for 64k demos that plays a tune and shows a cool plasma effect while a sinus scroller shows:
"Linux SuSE booter hacked by Triumph Greetings to...
maybe
you can open other session and run a aalib demo, or something.
1 saludo
Tei
-Woof woof woof!
Implement bootp www browser system that let you select from server what "boot" image run from a "SVGA web client frontend".
1 saludo
Tei
-Woof woof woof!
I really need the stuff !
It has been year since my system didn't get past LIL...
So I have some time to wait, and a good game...
It takes 40+ muscles to frown, but only four to extend your arm and bitchslap the motherfucker
It's working on my laptop.
Install alien if you don't have it yet, then grab lilo.rpm from one of the SUSE mirrors the author of the eye candy pointed out above. I ran "alien lilo.rpm", then "dpkg -i lilo_21.7.5-55_i386.deb" because I wasn't familiar with the alien -i option...
It works, although my text is all squishy right now. It makes me consider getting the Linux Progress Patch (the homepage is currently fallow, it seems) and gdm or xdm just for uninterrupted graphics.
I think it could make my parents go "ooooh."
An animated goatse lilo screen!
Looks very nice I think. One problem though: I'm currently running RedHat 7.2. The RH7.2 LILO handles partitions far beyond the 8GB border, which is where I've got my primary Linux partition. Just wanted to know before I switch over to Suse's LILO, does it handle this?
Sounds cool. I almost wished that I had windows or some other OS besides linux to dual boot
Like science? Comics? Wicked...
Funny By Nature
So when can we expect LilOS 1.0? ;)
and will there be a LILOLO (Linux boot loader loader)?
/K
I think this is an outrageous waste of computing power and electricity. We have to put a stop to things like this. When I was young computers weren't used for frivolous things like this! When I was young computers were used to do what they were invented for: serious stuff like calculating where to aim to hit your enemy the hardest. They were improving societey! But now... Since the invention of the graphics terminal the world is deteriorating fast...
-- Cheers!
personally I just put a little bit of script into rc.6, so that every time i reboot it cat's the output of 'cookie' into the boot message.
Hey Presto, new proverb every time you reboot.
Hahahah indeed!
:)
Well that's egg on Timothys face, for neither the first nor the last time I fear.
Anyway, I very much doubt I will ever use your gimmick, it is, as you admit, a waste of time. But a clever one at least.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Friends don't let friends enable ecmascript.
But hey, you can play games in LILO now. Linux, ready for the desktop.
seems I have to get another PC solely for booting ;)
Here's a link for Mandrake users. Beware of the german ;-)
.bmp 640x480 max 128 colors
/usr/share/doc/lilo-/README.graphic.
Short instructions:
- make
- use bmp2mdk script
- edit lilo.conf
There are two examples. Have a look at
Al.
This isn't a new idea... Red Hat has been shipping graphical LILO interfaces for a while.
Skiers and Riders -- http://www.snowjournal.com
Wow this sounds pretty amazing, its NOW possible to do this, as the technology didn't exist before this morning.
Funny, I thought I remember having a graphical lilo screen when I installed Mandrake 7, but I could be wrong =).
There is a screen of a gun. Press your mouse to play and pull the trigger. If the chamber has no bullet in it you will hear a click and boot into Linux. If it has a bullet in it, the gun will go off and you will boot into Windows. Do you want to play? (Y/N)
Oh yeah, that surely reminds me of my old Amiga 1000 - graphics, sound, sprites, simple vectors - and all in 1 boot sector! (yeah, I know - the data was on the last track on floppy but it surely looked great...
;)
Who knows, maybe someone will implement it on LILO or GRUB - it will surely be more fun to boot
Hetz (Heunique)
Trouble is, when do you ever reboot Linux except when a new kernel is built?
Sounds like sage advice.
I believe LILO is no longer subject to this limit; RH7.2 didn't complain when it booted from my 80GB Maxtor with the Linux main partition 60GB in!
Donte Alistair Anderson Roberts - hi son!
Karma: Chameleon
The site is slashdotted, so here are the link to the pictures and the text from the main page.
...). It gives a much greater flexibility than the other extensions that are provided by most of the other Linux distributions, including the new graphical modes that have recently been added to the official version of LILO 22.x.
pictures
green
blue
penguins
game
text
Animated splash screens for LILO
Introduction
Since mid-2001, most Linux distributions include some patched versions of LILO (the LInux LOader) that support VGA or VESA graphical modes and make it possible to have a nice background image while booting. Starting with SuSE Linux 7.2, the SuSE distribution includes an interesting extension to LILO that allows a programmer to define some callback functions that are triggered when some events occur (key pressed, timeout,
While testing the SuSE version of LILO and the helper program mkbootmsg, I was wondering if the timer callbacks together with the function that copies parts of the image to the screen could be used for creating animations. I quickly found out that it was indeed possible to enhance the boot screen with animations. Since my friends liked the results, I decided to share them on this web site.
These animated boot screens have been tested with SuSE Linux 7.2 and 7.3. They should also work with other Linux distributions, as long as you install the appropriate version of LILO. This is explained on my help page.
Why?
Several people told me that LILO was not designed to do this kind of things and asked me why I did this. So here are some reasons: because LILO was not designed to do this kind of things, because it is fun, because some people like to waste their time looking at pretty animations when their computer is booting.
Of course, these boot screens will not be so useful for those who keep their Linux server running for several months without rebooting (some of my servers have been running for more than a year). But these animations were not designed for these servers: they are more interesting for desktop computers that are rebooted from time to time. I created the first boot screens for a laptop that I boot and shut down at least once a day.
Animated boot screens
Click on one of these images to go to a separate page from which you can download the file to use with LILO as well as all source files.
xray-green
640x480, 256 colors (VESA)
Animations:
- progress bar (timeout)
- hard disk motor
- two flashing lights
xray-blue
640x480, 256 colors (VESA)
Animations:
- progress bar (timeout)
- hard disk motor
- two flashing lights
- rotating fan
penguins
640x480, 256 colors (VESA)
Animations:
- walking penguin at the bottom of the screen
- walking X-Mas penguin on top of the menu
- falling penguin (tumbler) for the LILO timeout
Special keys: F1, F2, F3 influence the penguins
breakout
640x480, 256 colors (VESA)
This is a full, playable game, not a simple animation.
Special keys:
- F1 for help
- F2 starts a game
- Shift and Ctrl control the bat
Copyright
I am releasing these animated boot screens under the GNU General Public License (GPL), version 2 or later (at your option).
This means that you are allowed to use, modify, copy and distribute them freely. You can even sell your own version if you want. But if you distribute them to others, then you must also distribute the source code for these boot screens. In this case, the "source code" ("the preferred form of the work for making modifications to it") means the configuration file(s) and the source of the image(s), including all layers and masks if applicable. It should be possible for those who get the source code to modify the animation easily, so distributing only the final PCX image is usually not sufficient because that would not be the the preferred form for making modifications to the image (unless you worked only on that bitmap file and painted it pixel by pixel, but then I pity you).
For more details, see the full text of the GPL (also available in HTML version from www.gnu.org).
Men are born ignorant, not stupid; they are made stupid by education. Bertrand Russel
Be careful of the French.
Good advice.
"Life has improved immeasurably since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously." - Hunter S. Thompson
This seems completely useless to me and when my system is rebooted there's not many options I'd care about unless I'm booting into a neglected WinNT partition or an older kernel.
So, hit enter, look at screen, ensure that there's no kernel panics. This seems like wasteful eye-candy when folks could be working on getting the window managers friendlier for the desktop user which I'm assuming this is targeted for.
AND MUST BE DESTROYED!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
cccccccccccccccccccccccccc
What happened to loadlin.. is it still developing?
I don't read French, but then again I can't seem to find any. Where is it ?
Translations appreciated.
Maginot line virtual visit
Not the blunder it's made out to be
vous invitent à entrer dans le monde captivant de ...
(virtual tour you english speaking creten)
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... and that one might want to look behind the GUI loaders before leaping.
What has this got to do with LILO ? Just a reminder that security is more about subtance than style
I've often found that to be useful advice.:)
(Moderators, please note the presence of humour in this post)
I'm going to get -infinity for this but, OK.
this is too much. crap like this, thrown in because it's "kewl", is why the real world doesn't take Linux seriously.
I want LILO to load my OS, and no more. I can wait until I boot to play games and see the pretty colors.
Why waste my time on something I only see for 15 seconds every six months? I used to make startup screens for my Macintosh, but then again my best uptime there was 6 days
Liberty in your lifetime
Then again, most users only see the LILO screen once every blue moon.
Now, installing the graphical LILO to boot my windows box, now that's entertaining!
"Be careful of the French."
Always good advice. Now go away, or I shall taunt you a second time!
You're Just Jealous Because The Voices Are Talking To Me.
Stupidest thing I have seen on slashdot so far. NEWS FOR NERDS. STUFF THAT SUCKS.
Why you should not use a flag as a symbol of a language
splashimage=(hd0,2)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
Just a gzip'd 640x480 xpm, trivial to replace. VERY cool.
MOST users still see the Microsoft Windows (tm) boot screen on start up.
I can see some people playing practical jokes with this type of thing already... placing an animated Windows logo during boot to scare the crap out of die-hard Linux users... only for them to sigh a breath of relief when the familiar logon screen appears (but not before a change of pants).
people who use lilo so much have bigger problems than just being bored by it
What makes GRUB especially cool is that it doesn't need to be installed on the hard disk in order to boot systems from it.
I never found that to be a deficiency in Lilo myself.
Not only can GRUB locate every hard disk in the system, not only does it understand different partitioning schemes (including BSD-style partitions), but it can also understand various filesystem structures.
Again, as a new stable distribution tested kernel (which is what I run on my workstation adn server boxes) comes out maybe twice a year, I frankly don't see the need for this.
So if you forgot the name of that latest kernel image you wanted to test, GRUB will let you poke around the filesystem looking for it. GRUB even has a find command to do it for you.
Indeed. Grub works well for testers. For the rest of us:
* Grub uses a completely different device syntax than my OS which I can't be bothered learning
* Grub has an arcane syntax if you do actually want some kind of interactive bootloader
Grub advocates also seem to miss two points:
* Grub has a pretty menu and can boot beyong cylinder 1024 / 8GB. Lilo has been able to do this for a couple of years too. Moot point.
* Grub complies to the `miltiboot specification'. Seeing as the Grub people wrote the `multiboot specification', who cares?
Mike
Be carefull of all this english