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So, it's Friday night, and as usual, we need some sort of entertainment. Tonight's theme: fitness. Here's what happens when a computer geek meets a Navy SEAL for PT. It's not pretty. But does he learn? Oh no.
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There's no need to keep in shape. By the time the effects are going to be noticeable (read life-threatining) medical breakthroughs will have it all taken care of... I hope....
Actually, I DO run crosscountry...
I understand that life's not fair, just why is it never unfair in my favor?
Thanks a lot folks! He will be here all week!
Keeping in shape is easy, just become a Systems Administrator. All these long hours here working on systems provides no time for bad habbits such as eating. Oh, that is unless you run all UNIX, this fitness programs requires Microsoft Windows NT4 Server or better or Netware of any version.
Jeesh, all the guy would've had to do was join the military and save $495.
Heck, I got p a i d a whole $600 bucks a month and they didn't charge me a dime for getting shouted at.
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Boy, are you in for a surprise. Wait until you hit your late thirties. If you aren't in shape then, you can kiss those all-night programming sessions good-bye. I could sure use one of those medical breakthroughs right about now.
Its an odd article for /. but its neat. I think that computer geeks (myself included) need to get out and exercise, its good for the mind, the most used geek muscle (we know its not a muscle though). I rock climb a lot, and it has helped me. Boot camp in this style is not as hard as the "real thing". At least they can't pull you out of bed at 1, after you just went to sleep.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING VIETNAM!!!! from the delta to the DMZ............
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This is me at a convention in San Diego a few years ago. Before making any smartass comments, yes, I'm the one in the middle.
I am a former Marine, 225 lbs. @ 7% BF, who works as a real network engineer (not a lame-dick MCSE) who runs Linux and FreeBSD at home.
There are two points to this post.
1) I am the meanest geek, ever.
2) Just because you're smart, doesn't mean you have to play the role of the skinny, unathletic nerd.
"Study your math, kids. Key to the universe." -The Archangel Gabriel
mama, mama can't you see
how the army's debugging me
when null pointer's on the rise
I got to exercise my thighs.
"I only speak the truth"
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Slashdot is freedom. If ya don't like the article, don't read it. Believe it or not, the same applies to most websites. I don't mean to step all over you actually, Im just tired of everyone walking around thinking that they should never be offended about anything, and your post spawned the thought.
did they say the hair would grow back when
:)
you are off the chemo therapy?
did you lose anything else with the steroids?
:)
really,
Here's a newsflash for you prick - you know the world out there? Outside of Smalltown USA and Downtown USA? It's very different from your pathetic Alice-in-wonderland everybody-happy-clappy xtian alternate reality.
If only they'd back off, it'd be so easy. I'd welcome any ex-military with open arms back into a faithful and god-loving life. While I may dislike them for what they do, I love them as God's children. Don't forget that.
I think they're all doing just fine without your love, but just in case, do book a flight to Afghanistan at your earliest convenience and wander around the countryside looking for a few. You might get a chance to ask them before they they do the honors and send you to your beloved twinky god.
"The only easy day was yesterday."
"Yesterday was easy because it's over."
"A man with a strong stomach is a strong man."
I've known several SEAL "rejects" and dropouts (injuries, etc.), and these guys are more fit than I'll ever be! All these mofos have my respect.
In 1978, I had the *cough* *cough* pleasure of spending my mornings with Heinz Lenz. Here was a guy in his early 50's, and the rumor was he swam a couple miles before he led our little workouts. He put most of us 18-year-olds to shame. I'll never forget: "Good morning trrroops! Side strrraddle hop, begin!"
Would the persons responsible for war be investors (read us) who are attracted to large companies that maximize profits by lobbying polititions who maximize leverage that further exploitation in lucrative markets with the cheapest risk? A 36 percent return or greater a year is mighty rewarding and starts at the common people who invest. Would the nice house I just bought have helped incite a war in another country? One could say with large purchases, unintended influences are bought.
War might be about being on the bleeding edge of civilizaion.
Never bayonet a baby. They're more dangerous than they look -- stick with grenades.
I can't remember not working out. I think I've tried pretty much every type of regimen but really there isn't a better exercise than walking, especially if you're starting out of condition. For those of us who have always been in condition the question isn't how can anyone workout plus 90 minutes a day but rather how can anyone not workout 90 minutes plus a day. Bulking up and being buff at the top of your game is fun and really punches up self confidence but I'd rather go for streaching and breathing and staying as light as possible. I don't know what it's like to never have been in shape, especially when growing up, and then struggle to get in shape as a young adult, but I do know, like riding bikes and so much else, once you've been there it's just that much easier to find your back. Eat the Pain.
heuristic algorithm seeks stochastic relationship
Okay, I've got karma to burn (not that lack of it's ever stopped me before).
Lighten the ever-loving fuck up! These guys are the salt of the earth -- I should know; I served in the military myself. And to rebut your histrionic simpering, I present the following points:
Have Afghan civilians died? Certainly. That's the nature of war. Sometimes people die in combat. Sometimes those people have done nothing wrong. But the goal of the United States is not the wholesale slaughter of innocents; to the contrary, we've gone out of our way to ensure their safety time and again. And as for Israelis slaughtering Palestinians, I'd call the last, oh, 96 hours or so in Israel a pretty good indication of who the aggressors are. While one side attempts to negotiate in good faith, the other side is setting of suicide bombs in public places. Who's the good guy to you?
Next time you want to whimper about how terrible the U.S. military is, remember that their mission is to act as guarantors of freedom not merely for the U.S., but for the world. Sometimes the mere threat of their use is enough to cause aggressive individuals to reconsider. Sometimes we actually have to show the intestinal fortitude to use them. And sometimes, every once in a while, I wish they'd call in airstrikes on idiot hippies like you.
They that would sacrifice their
It's called "living in rural Alaska" and for anyone that's bored of the SEAL training, they should try cross country running. . . on tundra. . .at -50 below. . . while being chased by bison. . . in a blizzard. .
all to get the sunday paper. . .
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This guy was training civilians in, uh, Central Park. I could understand part of what you're saying, but I'm not sure attacking Slashdot for posting somebody's journal on physical training is particularly effective...
I didn't believe the guy who said that after his first day, he had to wash his hair by spraying the Shampoo on the wall and rubbing his hair against the wall, into the shampoo. I believe him now.
I happen to think that sort of thing is a bit amusing... sorry you don't agree...
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This crazy mo-fo just enouraged my ass to go get my EFX on for today.
python -c "x='python -c %sx=%s; print x%%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))%s'; print x%(chr(34),repr(x),chr(34))"
32 comments by the time I post this one...I'd be willing to bet 25 of them didn't read the article, as that was *damn* long, and very insightful.
:D
Some specifics would have been a little nice. I'm sure the vast majority of the Slashdot readerbase is sitting above the ideal weight zone, after all, and I'm kinda curious what Pete's before/after weights were.
And now I know I've *gotta* get a SportBrain.
"Mod, mod, mod...and another troll bites the dust."
If its anything like punch the moneky I'll pass.
Slashcode follows the open source coding and testing ethic of "it worked for me".
.NET server and rewriting their code using a stable, reliable platform like Visual C++ or .NET. Perhaps only then will the browser compatbility issues will be resolved.
Guess what - the W3 validator pukes on www.hotmail.com, whereas www.debian.org works just fine. Maybe, just maybe, it has nothing to do with whether it's open source or not.
2. Perhaps Slashdot should consider switching to IIS 5.0 or
These are just suggestions. I am here to help.
Maybe it would help if you knew something about the subject. What programming language you write an HTML generator in is irrelevant, as is, for the most part, the server.
"did you lose anything else with the steroids?"
Why you are curious about my nuts, I have no idea. But I'll answer, so you can sleep tonight.
Testicular atrophy is normal while taking steroids, but if you only are on for short periods of time, they swell back to normal once you stop the cycle.
If you take Clomiphene Citrate after a cycle, you can stay on for quite a while and still save your nads from perma-shrinkage.
If you want to bukkake your girl, pop a few Clomid tabs and wait a few days. You'll be spurting ounces at a time. Here's a pic of my pet squirrel after having Clomid mixed into his feed for a few days.
As for the phallus, steroids actually increase the size of it. Small balls, large crank. Who gives a shit about large nuts, anyway? Really, when was the last time you heard a bunch of chicks sitting around talking fondly of some guy's gigantic testes?
"Study your math, kids. Key to the universe." -The Archangel Gabriel
I'm so out of shape... my heart hurt just reading this guy's story.
Me thinks I gotta get out a bit more.
This article lacks several elements, to make it a good post:
1) no images to mirror. KW feel left out.
2) no cranky webserver. It has been an hour, and not sign of slashdotting.
3) putting "navy seal" and "geek" is just cruel and merciles.
4) "chase the rabbit". that sounds a lot like "punch the monkey".
5) it is posted by michael. You really can't complain about michael. He is not taco or katz,
and he is not a recurring item in the polls. Michael needs an scandal to make it in this business.
For now he is way too clean cut, and perfect. I suggest he starts with a good handle.
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Read the article. Took a look at the website for the training. They have a class for people like me. I'd even sign up, but the classes are only in Houston and NYC.
And, who are people like me? Remember, not all geeks are 90 lbs soaking wet. 6'2", 375lbs. Yes, you read that right. I sit in front of a computer all day drinking Mt Dew Code Red, my ass has no where to go but out.
Buying a treadmill, building a switch to turn off the TV unless I'm on and walking. At a regular stride, I can walk all day (and have). If this don't at least get me down to the point where I can take a PT class like this one, I'll die fat.
No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. - Cmdr. Susan Ivanova
It's really too bad you didn't lose a loved one in the WTC or the Pentagon. Really. Things like that sometimes help by snapping xtians like you out of their self-induced flower power dreams.
Also, I'm sorry to inform you that there is no such thing as an embargo against Afghanistan. They were lifted the moment the new government took over. That's one less lame ass intellectual argument you can make.
Empahsis mine. Wrath of God. All I can say. Wrath of God. Watch for it body, cause when it happens, you'll be on the front of the list
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! FOAD, xtian. I've seen your kind before. Fire and brimstone, end of the world, kiss my ass.
Interesting thing of note - Instructor Walston has done an Ironman Triathlon - Without the bike. He RAN 141 miles in one day. Can you imagine that?
To be honest, no, I can't imagine that. It's highly improbable.
The New York City marathon is 26 miles, and the winner usually does it in about 2 hours; and is completely wiped out. I believe it's quite impossible to run 141 miles in a single day, even for a world class runner.
Coincidentally, the Marathon des Sables in Morocco is 141 miles as well, and that takes 7 days to run.
why don't you buy yourself one asskicking!?
PAIN IS PLEASURE!
gogogo!
"i can never say no to anyone but you"
Its amazing how many hits a site can handle when a page with 20 kilobytes of content is actually (*GASP*) a 20KB file. Too long on the internet of 20KB of content swathed in 200KB of bloat has ruined your perspective.
Interesting thought. "The people who start wars and are responsible for wars are rarely the same people who fight them." So when it boils down to a battlefield, after all "responsible" people are in safety, who is left in control of the situation? PS: I'm not a marketing exec, I'm not about repeating or creating mind warping and socially accepted slogans, I know an interesting idea when I see one. HINT: If you are into post-modern identity chrisis (AC), then I'd suggest you keep your mouth shut and keep yourself invisible and thoughtless.
tried this approach, they didnt want me. its amazing what a totally remissive condition at age 10 can do to your chances of ever serving in the military. now i just laugh at them when they try to get me to enroll in the "Selective Service" (AKA Draft registration).
doubt it.. its just text.. did you even look before for trying to whore some karma with a link to google? Who doesn't know how google works anyway?
That is without a doubt the best link I have ever had the opportunity to read on slashdot. It actually had me pumped up thinking about it. Sounds like that course is like going one on one with Tony Robbins on speed and actually going through basic. Kudos, for a year old story I am glad I had a chance to read it. I think its time to huck this pack of smokes in the trash and get motivated :)
"that's no ORRRRDINARRRY RABBIT!"
:)
someone had to say it
A penny for my thoughts? Here's my two cents. I got ripped off.
A Penny for my thoughts? Here's my two cents. I got ripped off!
While the Military-grade cybernetic sack sounds like an ideal nut transportation device, is it still suitable for teabagging?
Would it cause abrasions on the teabaggee's forehead or tongue?
Would the moist environment of say, a mouth, have any effect on the performance of the sack,
such as causing it to short out and shock the teabaggee, or worse, the sack's owner?
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There are really two types of geeks:
The first is the simpsons watching, game playing, cube farm dwelling geek who likes lots of remote controls and whose programming is limited to the stuff at work.
The second type are the ones who do devote 110% of themselves to something they love.
Four day straight coding binges, countless hours of research and self-education IMHO far exceed the effort put forth by soldiers for one simply reason. There is no instructor screaming at this person to force them to give so much.
Don't get me wrong, I do have a great deal of respect for people who can go through this, but I am a little disturbed at the suggestion that this being a geek simply means that one gives "50%" of themselves and sits around playing with their cats all day.
That instructor may seem like a tough guy, but in reality, how does his efforts make the world a better place? Sure, the military is important, but militaries are only relavant to the present. Colin Powell may be remember as a great leader, perhaps for a few decades, but I truely believe that Richard Stallman will have a place in history as a revolutionary (atleast, for a century or so).
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HINT: If you are into post-modern identity chrisis (AC), then I'd suggest you keep your mouth shut and keep yourself invisible and thoughtless.
Well, here you go: I'm not anonymous. However, given your history of flame-bait comments, I suggest that you should consider an elective case of post-modern identity crisis in your future postings.
Every year during my review, I just pray the words "slashdot.org" aren't mentioned.
According to the guy's resume, his past job titles have been:
- CEO of his own company
- Director of Marketing
- Director of New Media
- Editor/Producer
- Report/Photo Stringer
I think it's cool they guy did all that, but isn't calling him a "computer geek" misleading, if not just *wrong*?
-Bill
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But I digress... back in ancient times when I was in high school and the USA was still sending folks to the moon, one of my track team buddies, a distance man, would train by literally chasing rabbits. Until they dropped. Dead. From heat exhaustion. He would simply go out to a back pasture in the farm, scare up a fluffy bunny, and chase him. He claimed it made training runs less boring. Turns out rabbits are quick but can't take long runs because they overheat. So anyway I took the headline a little too literally.
Animal lovers will probably now start a flame war on this thread. But I'm just a reporter here. I don't endorse it. Gramps is going back to his rocking chair now.
This reminds me a lot of my time on our schools crew team.. We haven't gone through what this guy did, but we go through hell and go through it together. When I started, I joined because I wanted to get in shape. However, what I have gotten out of it is the ability and willingness to push myself to new levels, and the chance to be able to be part of a true team. Yes, it sucks, but it is extremely rewarding. To anyone out there who has never really done something like crew or PT training, I would highly recommend it. The first few weeks will be hell (so will the rest of it, but you'll be used to it by then), but it will end up being one of the most rewarding things you have ever done for yourself.
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The only reason I clicked on this story was because I thought it said, "Chase the Rabbis." I was hoping for photos.
(Don't get mad, my girlfriend's Jewish.)
it's very simple, you see - a single arrow breaks easily, however a bundle of them is much stronger!
Spoon not. Fork, or fork not. There is no spoon.
Yannis Kouros, considered the greatest ultra-long-distance runner of all time, can run 153 miles in 20 hours, 25 minutes. If Kouris played basketball, he'd make Jordan look bad. He's that far beyond the competition. It's possible that a Navy SEAL drill instructor could run 141 miles in 24 hours, but I'd bet against it in the office pool.
Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg?
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I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand at post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
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Interesting thought. "The people who start wars and are responsible for wars are rarely the same people who fight them." So when it boils down to a battlefield, after all "responsible" people are in safety, who is left in control of the situation?
...) that have put him in harms way, who say a great danger exists. The soldier often honestly believes such a danger exists, it is critical to his performance. Look at the Iraqi army against Iran compared to the U.S. When war is unjustly waged the soldiers are often as decieved as everyone else by the politicians.
The soldier is not in control of the situation, he is often the situation's greatest victim. The soldier has incomplete information, he doesn't know enough to evaluate the situation, but if he lets this prevent him from acting he may be endangering his homeland and his people. He has little choice but to trust the politicians (elected, unelected, revolutionary,
PS: I'm not a marketing exec, I'm not about repeating or creating mind warping and socially accepted slogans, I know an interesting idea when I see one. HINT: If you are into post-modern identity chrisis (AC), then I'd suggest you keep your mouth shut and keep yourself invisible and thoughtless.
Actually I was AC because I forgot to enable cookies, but back to your problems: Don't expect people to remain silent if you are going to play the fool, be man enough to accept ridicule and laughter. You jokes and wit fail, get used to it.
"...wars occur because there are standing armies and/or people with weapons?"
At no point in any of these posts did I make any references to how wars start -- this is intentional.
I'm glad that your lack of insight gets you modded up.
I agree that politics and economics are part of starting wars (mainly through their dysfunction), but I don't know how many times I can stress, once a war has been "declared" who has the power to kill people? or not to kill people? If you think of soldiers as diplomats instead of killers, and grant them the rights of diplomats rather than killers, you might get an idea of what I'm saying.
BTW: I have never posted flamebait. I have also never posted with the intent to get a reward other than discussion. Karma means nothing. My nick will always be attached to my comments.
I wouldn't do this. it might get me in better shape, but all that's good for is getting you laid - if you have the personality to back up the looks.
I have a horrible personality to most women. So being in shape won't give me any advantage in life that isn't immediately nullified by my basic nature.
Hence, exercising is useless to me.
At least I quit smoking, but only because I hated the smell and it made my eyes burn.
BTW: I have never posted flamebait.
;-)
That's sad, it means you believed what you wrote.
I have also never posted with the intent to get a reward other than discussion. Karma means nothing. My nick will always be attached to my comments.
OMG, nicks are nothing, they are anonymous, they are free, you can have as many nicks as you have personalities you want to present.
Why does the soldier put himself/herself in the victims role?
Taken from the wired story: A bill introduced this week by Sen. Fritz Hollings (D-South Carolina)...
Please remember this name during election time if you live in SC.
In case you want to get in shape (and/or prepare for BUD/S or Ranger School).
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"OMG, nicks are nothing, they are anonymous, they are free, you can have as many nicks as you have personalities you want to present."
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... you are saying posting as AC is worthless? Are you on drugs?
where are the insight points.
Slashdot needs to design a new icon for the category of "masochism." Other stories might include the 3 month movie line campout for Episode II, the biographies of everyone ever partnered with Microsoft, and third-year CS students.
Scarce, scared, scarred, sacred... -Col. Bruce Hampton
I've known several SEAL "rejects" and dropouts (injuries, etc.), and these guys are more fit than I'll ever be!
The obstacles to entering Special Ops are more mental than physical. It's relatively easy to condition a body, it's hard to find a mind that combines "never quit" psychology and high intelligence. At least that's what a man with three tours in south east asia told me.
"According to my heart rate monitor, my pulse spiked at 240 during those."
!!!!!
I'm 19 and my supposed "max heart rate" is 201.
He sure was right with his next sentence - "By all rights, I should not only be dead, but my heart should have exploded so violently, that there shouldn't be enough left of me to put on a Triscuit."
I intend on joining the Marine Corps (enlisted already...leaving in a few months) and after doing a decent run my heart rate is usually around 190 or so and I've been told that 190 is a "dangerously high" heart rate. Anyone have any insight on this? I mean... 240...that's insane!
-kwishot
Why does the soldier put himself/herself in the victims role?
Find a psychology text and look up negative-negative decisions. To act is bad, to not act is worse. The soldier is not looking to be a victim. He often honestly believes that people back home are in danger and that he has the training and tools to protect them. Sometimes the threat is real, sometimes it is not, but the soldier doesn't know and errs on the side of protecting those at home.
32 comments by the time I post this one...I'd be willing to bet 25 of them didn't read the article ... And now I know I've *gotta* get a SportBrain. :D
The second one was insightful too...PPS With SportBrain gone, I picked up a new client last week...
Then again, reading the two articles might have been nearly as grueling (but enjoyable) as the training itself :)
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Jesus christ, was this so-called "article" posted because someone thought it was actually good? Or was it just because it's so goddamned long? Personally, I've read better journals kept by retarded middle schoolers, and frankly, this has no real reason to be on Slashdot. God, you guys must be just fucking desperate for new content, hunh?
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There's a similar course (it's three weeks, one hour each weekday morning, 5:30-6:30) in Austin, TX, and a _lot_ of tech people participate in it. In fact, the main co-instructor worked with me at an IT firm (we were both in QA). He got half our group to do it. It was a great experience. Lots and lots of fun (in retrospect, of course ;) ) They have a website at www.navysealconditioning.com
Why was this modded as offtopic? I was asking if this patent holds can it prevent the SSSCA or whatever it's called now. Overrated I would understand, but offtopic? What was I supposed to do? Post "man, they suck for trying to enforce that."
Gah. I doubt anybody'll give me a reasonable response.
"Derp de derp."
On the other hand, ever notice how almost all of the world's oldest people always say they smoked like chimneys and drank like fish and lived to a ripe old age anyway? ;-) The current oldest living person is that Japanese woman who thanked rice-wine for her longevity. The guy who runs the cigar shop down the street from me is a Cuban expatriate who's 78, looks and acts like a healthy 50, and smoked cigars all day every day from the time he was 11 until his 60s when he gave it up because it was affecting his ability to breathe easily, and so he switched to snuff.
:-o Most of us have or will have great jobs that pay well--what's the use of that, if we aren't going to use it to enjoy all of life's pleasures?
:-)
Yeah, I know, on the average people who "live healthy" will live longer. My philosophy is--ah, so what. Why do I want to be 90 anyway? I'll take 55 really good years of wine, women and song over 80 of running and bottled water. Give me pastries! Give me fine cuisine loaded with heavy creams and cheeses and red meats! Give me hand-rolled cigars! Give me Chateau d'Yquem when I can afford it and a cheap 5-liter box when I can't! And being a bit soft and pale may not look so great to the contemporary eye, but it's pleasing when touched nonetheless. I personally love the feeling when my big Homer Simpson tummy starts jiggling as a hot young lady pounds into me like a jackhammer. And when I can't find a hot young woman who wants to sleep with me, well, that's where http://www.bigdoggie.net comes in.
I've got a full humidor, a few bottles of last fall's Beaujolais Nouveau in the fridge, and I'm still practically glowing from my appointment yesterday with a former runway model the likes of whom most thin athletic people will never get to enjoy in the sack--and she does things most girlfriends and wives won't do! So, if lots of exercise and healthy living turns you on, great, enjoy it. But it certainly isn't the only way to enjoy life to its fullest, thank you. I have exactly the life I want, and I'd take it over 20 extra years of a less indulgent one.
Chasing Amy
(We all chase Amy...)
"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws"-Tacitus
Two interesting points from the article 1) his two minute pushup / situp test barely meets regular Army standards for him, and most of the 1st SF that I worked with felt weak if they didn't complete 100 pushups / 100 situps, and a 12:00 two mile for their fitness test. 2) The precial operations (SF SEALS, etc...) do much more than that every morning, and then strap on 75 lbs to go humping for the rest of the day. "I knew that we did more before 9:00 than normal people did all day, I just didn't realize we didn't stop after 9:00." -- someone
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I see a lot of comments about how it's not "Real" SEAL training.
No shit.
The real messag here is that, in general, we do NOT train ourselves nearly hard enough. People are, in general, in shitty health. We are lazy.
Exercise feels GOOD you know. Hey. I didn't believe it. I've been supremely lazy my whole life. When I hit 22 or so, my standard 130 pounds that never flucutated climbed up to about 200.
I finally hit the gym for various reasons.
And what I found shocked me. The first day was hard. It only felt good when I was done.
The second day was a day of pain.
A week later.. after about 5 minutes of lifting, I *LIKE* it. IT feels GOOD. You do 20 reps of something, push yourself.. and it feels GREAT.
Helps greatly with focus every day.
Don't forget to tip your waitress!
I asked a question about whether or not this patent could stop the CBDTPA. That was modded down as 'offtopic'. I asked why it was modded down as offtopic (as opposed to being overrated if it was a stupid question), and that was was modded redundant.
I'm not looking to get those points back, but some hypothetical insight as to what i did wrong would be nice. Perhaps my definition of what is off topic needs some modification? I mean, I am asking about this patent and how it it could be used to stop idiotic legislation from being psased, but for some reason this is off topic.
Please, somebody seriously answer me?
"Derp de derp."
These were civilians who paid $495 each. This has nothing to do with our heroic boys in the MILITARY. Maybe the next /. story could be about me going to an overpriced gym on the upper east side. Would you stand tall and defend me when i got flamed all to hell? That is what you are doing here. Next time, before you get all worked up RTFA.
Four day straight coding binges, countless hours of research and self-education IMHO far exceed the effort put forth by soldiers for one simply reason. There is no instructor screaming at this person to force them to give so much.
I'm not trying to be rude, but those who believe your post to be insightful are somewhat ignorant. Please keep in mind that our perception of what a soldier is is largely based on TV and movies. TV and movies portray soldiers about as well as they portray hackers.
U.S. soldiers are volunteers. Our Special Ops soldiers have volunteered multiple times. They are not doing things because someone is yelling at them. The numerous hard things they had to do to reach their position were accompanied by instructors encouraging them to quit, begging them to quit, constantly reminding them that other people are warm, fed, and comfortable and that they could join these people if they wished to.
The devotion to their craft and self motivation you admire in the geek is the very same thing that makes so many of our soldiers so good. Except the soldiers are doing harder things that may not be as much fun.
Colin Powell may be remember as a great leader, perhaps for a few decades, but I truely believe that Richard Stallman will have a place in history as a revolutionary (atleast, for a century or so)
No, Stallman is not a revolutionary. Free software existed before Stallman, it exists without the GPL, it will live on without Stallman or the GPL. He is more of a pop icon. Many men and women have done far greater things, both in and out of the military, you just don't know their names.
So what happened to this guy? Did 9-11 take him out, or something before that? His web page hasn't been updated since late 2000. First he's talking about taking the course a third time in October and then nothing for almost a year and a half. Kinda spooky.
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Okay, before anyone mods this down, a little further down I get back to the "body image" notions brought up in the linked journals.
;-) Best $250 an hour full service "physical therapy" you can get...
Former as in still in her early 20s former. 5'9, 110 pounds, a body that puts Kate Moss' at the top of her career a few years ago to shame because it still has all the right curves to it. And, only a profesional call girl could be so skilled in the arts of sex.
You can find any type of girl you want at lots of different price points and service levels at thebigdoggie.net. Just click on the board for the city or state you want, and read up. The message boards can be searched for past reviews of a girl once you get an idea of who you might want. A small membership fee gets access to "members' boards" and a review database, but I've never gotten a membership because once you learn the ropes you can find all you need on the public boards. Obviously, if you're in or near a big city you're in luck, but if you live in the boon docks or the Midwest you may have no one great nearby. There are a ton of escort ads on Eros Guides, but you need to research the girls on TBD first to see who's legitimate because many are scammers.
I do a lot of travelling and the best cities for finding terrific escorts are either of the big cities in California, any big Florida city, DC, and Chicago. New York City's top escorts are usually more expensive, which is why I usually don't visit them. I've also been to the Moonlite BunnyRanch in Nevada, where it's legal, and it was way overpriced. My favorite city to stay in on business is DC, because they have a lot of beautiful young escorts down there at generally lower rates--if you ever visit there, you must visit Samantha or Eve at Tori's Secret. I was in DC a month ago, and saw both of them. Eve is also a former runway model, and all the girls look better than their pics at Tori's because their photographer is an idiot.
I've never understood why prostitution should be illegal if it's conducted safely and discreetly, like escorting is. Streetwalking is a public nuisance--but some low-key ads and some internet websites used to bring consenting adults together isn't harming anyone; it's a public service, making for happier, healthier people. Even Bonobo monkeys engage in the trade of resources for sex. It's natural. Sex independent of interpersonal relationships can be a fungible service just like any other.
I'm a big fat geek who's traded long hours of work and his formerly less ample figure for copious amounts of money, and I use that money to really enjoy my life. I don't mind being fat. It isn't keeping me from doing anything I'd enjoy otherwise, and I'm not either wasting my time (subjective judgement, of course--some enjoy exercise) doing a lot of exercise (more work IMHO), or cutting out my cigars and fattening foods and alcohols, just to lose a few pounds and keep it lost.
Some people have to be thin to feel okay about themselves, but I'm here to say: bollocks. I like my fat white body. I love how it feels to my hands and the hands of others. I love how my fat jiggles when I'm getting a really good fucking with the girl on top. Why should I care if some people don't think I look good? Ideas of beauty have been mutable for most of human history. The Greeks and Romans loved hard bodies, and so do we. But a couple centuries ago in Europe being pale and flabby was considered beautiful because it was a sign of wealth and class, and in prehistory fertility idols were made in the shape of really big fat women. Rubens' women would be considered fat today. Marilyn Monroe was considered the hottest woman alive forty or fifty years ago, but she wore about a size 12, which today would make her a bit on the chunky side.
So, I'm not missing out on anything. I've got all of life's pleasures and enjoy them guilt-free, no petty worries about calories or weight or whatnot. Whenever I'm single I just buy sex the same way one buys any other service, and whenever I find a girl I like who's interested in a lot more than current notions of what most people think "looks good" that's great too. To quote *Pulp Fiction*, "It's unfortunate what we find pleasing to the touch and pleasing to the eye are seldom the same."
Love your fat geeky bodies, guys. They may not look how a lot of people think they should look, but that's just modern jock-driven elitist aesthetics. They feel good, and that's what really matters.
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"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws"-Tacitus
As mentioned elsewhere, ultra distance runners can do 220+km in 24 hours. It may be a stretch but given an extremely competent runner, he/she might finish 141km in 16 hours or so. A truly world class ultra distance runner might finish it in 12 hours, but these are guys who don't have very little excess muscle/weight.
There is no trap so deadly as the trap you set for yourself
-Raymond Chandler, The Long Goodbye
Got up at 1130 Saturday morning, checked my email and Slashdot. Reading this story (yes, the entire story) about a guy working out didn't actually make me feel good about myself. :)
Don't get me wrong, I do have a great deal of respect for people who can go through this, but I am a little disturbed at the suggestion that this being a geek simply means that one gives "50%" of themselves and sits around playing with their cats all day.
I don't think he means just geeks. A lot of the population would give up after trying something like this- the ability to complete something this hard is not something you are born with, it is something you have to decide on and earn day by day. I think what he means is that most people don't really push themselves to this point.. having had similar experiences to this guy, it really is amazing how far you can push yourself. You always think, "I'm worn out, I can't possibly do anymore," but you do, and you learn a little more day by day that your limits are way more than you thought they were. So by 50% I don't think he really means people sit around being lazy asses, just that most people have never really pushed themselves to see how far they can go.
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Bet he enjoys some of his work, though! ;-)
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was the whole "in two sets of 2 minutes i did 55 press ups and 44 sit ups" in less than 2 minutes i can do easy 200 press ups. straight.
I can also do single arm press ups, left and right
I do kungfu (mantis and wing chun) as well
I'm 15
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First off, you really shouldn't classify things into two categories. That makes you ignorant.
The only reason it is now "cool" to be a geek is because the everyday person uses it, and you get paid well to be one. That doesn't mean that geeks should be put on a throne and admired. Your comments lead me to believe that you are some kind of self-worshipping, elitest A-hole. In reality, that is what a lot of tech people are, so you shouldn't feel special. Don't worry, there are a lot of other types of people who act the same way too.
And stop with the 110% garbage. Cliche. If you are all geek, all the time, good for you. But don't expect people to automatically respect you for that. What dangers do you face in your life? What are YOU doing to make the world a better place? Do you think that in the end, technology is the answer? If you do, then you had better WAKE THE FUCK UP! You ask the question about the instructor "...how does his efforts make the world a better place?" That makes you seem uneducated and elitest. The fact that you may not remember those who gave their lives for YOUR FREEDOM doesn't mean that they aren't important. They are the unsung heros who lazy bastards like you take advantage of every day as you give your "110%" to a luxury like technology. Revolutionary! Bah. RMS may be a revolutionary, but you have to have something to revolt against, that that something was possible because of people in the military, government, artists, musicians, etc. You think technology built this country? It was the comman person, who busted their ass farming, working in factories, fixing your car, cooking your food, teaching you, RAISING YOUR ASS from a snotty nosed kid to a snotty nosed adult. Why don't you give credit where credit is due, instead of going through life with tunnel-vision?
Damn. Maybe I am reading too much into your weak comments, but you touched on something. For the most part, most of the tech people I know are physically lazy. Sure, they can code for 6 hours straight, and they can focus all their attention on one problem, but they usually can only function around other people like them. Why be ignorant of everything else? I know that there are specialists in every field, and there are tech specialists too who are the best at what they do. But that isn't everyone. If you aren't one of these people (and chances are you aren't) then you should expand yourself. Learn about other things. Get off your ass and go to a museum (of real art, not anime!). Read a book that doesn't have to do with cryptography or a programming language. Go in the kitchen and cook, instead of dialing the phone or having your mommy cook something for you. DO SOMETHING ELSE!!! Why are you sitting in front of that PS2 or Xbox for 5 hours straight? Yeah, it's fun. Why do you do it every day? What, may I ask, is that going to do to make the world a better place?
You may be asking yourself "who is this prick? He is probably a hypocrite." Some may think that. I certainly don't claim to be the most well-rounded person, but I realize that every day and try to fix it. I don't have delusions of grandeur, I don't try to be great. I try not to be an arrogant prick when I am right. I love to learn new things. I try to get stuck in one thing. It is boring!!!!! Don't be a boring person. Make this a better world by improving yourself, physically, mentally, spiritually, philosophically, technologically.... The list goes on. If you can speak out of some kind of experience, then I may be more apt to listen to you, but don't try and put other people down without having some kind of knowledge of what you are talking about. It is OK to not say anything. Just shut up and listen, you may learn something.
OK, I am getting tired of typing. If you ever met me, you would never guess that this rant is coming out of me, because I am the quiet guy. But by being quiet I listen and learn. Maybe I have just been trapped in SUVland suburbian hell for too long. Maybe I am just tired of all the cliches that I see cycling through this world. Maybe I am just sick and tired of ignorance.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
and drain the fluid..." -this quote comes from the movie Fight Club, from Bob, who had "bitch tits", because he had his testicles removed after developing testicular cancer, which he said he got from being a "juicer", a person who takes 'roids.
/. to cyber this and genetic that, but when one guy
gets up to boast about his taking a body-altering pharmo substance,
everybody gets freaked. Personally, I'd never touch the stuff, let your body do its own thing.
The lesson here, kiddies, is, you play with fire, you will get burned. What's amusing is, there's a lot of attention paid on
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I for one like the stories and your writing style... any chance of more?
if the answer isn't violence, neither is your silence / freedom of expression doesn't make it alright
That's great, and then when they kill the freakin' thing in Nova Scotia, Mooatl says to Tezoltl, "next time, man, don't forget the god-damned shotgun."
I'm so mean I've never influenced a statistic, poll or survey.
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War has existed since the dawn of time, and long periods of war never improve humanity. Humanity improves when intellectual revolutions occur.
I don't know about this - to say war has never improved humanity? That might be a stretch. Maybe war didn't improve it directly, but it certainly prompted rapid change. It is hard to imagine what the world would be like without the US Revolutionary War or the US Civil War. I am sure there are others that you can agree that had a great impact on the world. I think humanity can certainly improve as a result of war. Many technologies are produced for/by the military, so without wars, perhaps technology may not progress as rapidly. (but that begs the question, does technology improve humanity)
I don't have delusions of grandeur, I don't try to be great. It saddens me that you would say such a thing. If you do not live your life trying to be the best you possible can be, then why live at all?
That is different than what I meant by "great". I was referring to "great" in the common sense, as in the eyes of others. I don't try to be a great man. I just do what I do, to the best of my ability. I don't want to be rich and powerful. I just want to be happy. I could certainly be happy with money, but that is not my goal. I know people who are like that, they want to be great (in the selfish sense). It makes me sick. Some people thrive on the admiration of others and on having "power". Not me. It follows a more Zen philosophy, of just being. Just live in the moment, and appreciate everything you have. The desire to be great will cloud your judgement.
OK, we had better end this right now, or we will get modded down for having a reasonable discussion. This isn't the place for that. :-)
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
but in my own defense, the comments were pretty superficial.
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:) What I still can't figure out, is how I had 50 prior to the above post, and then it got mod'd Troll=2, Insightful=3, Interesting=1, Overrated=2, and all the sudden, I'm at 48. Last time I checked -2 + 3 + 1 - 2 == 0. Guess Taco does math as good as he spells :)
I'll give you that I guess.
It is hard to imagine what the world would be like without the US Revolutionary War or the US Civil War.
It's hard to imagine what our life would have been like without these things, but after our society fails (and all societies due), both events will have little meaning. The Punic wars of Rome, or the Trojan war has very little meaning on our lives today. While they may shaped shaped history, they surely didn't improve mankind.
I am not anti-war, it is necessary in some circumstances, but I do not respect it and do not believe it benefits society.
Many technologies are produced for/by the military, so without wars, perhaps technology may not progress as rapidly. (but that begs the question, does technology improve humanity)
While war improves technology, does it really improve science? War may create a faster computer, but the science of Einstein and Turing are what has improved humanity with the computer. I kind of see the military's work with technology as it's justification for the tremendous amount of money we spend on it. It's kind of the same way NASA justifies itself. Now, working in the military sector, I can definitely say that while an aweful lot is accomplished, even more is wasted.
I recently visited the Princeton Plasma Physics lab and was told by one of the chief scientists there that there budget was only a few million dollars and if they were only guarenteed that some, they would be years ahead in their search for useful fusion energy. I recently worked on a project that had a budget of a few million dollars and IMVHO, had the money for that project been diverted to this lab, humanity would be much better off. Unfortunately, I don't make those decisions.
It follows a more Zen philosophy, of just being.
I had taken what you wrote as saying that you didn't try to be great, just good. To settle for just being good. To me, one can be great, or one can not be great. There is no middle ground.
OK, we had better end this right now, or we will get modded down for having a reasonable discussion. This isn't the place for that.
What's the point of hitting the cap if you can't burn karma a bit every once in a while
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The title of the race would imply that it's run on sand. If that's true, 20 miles per day is very impressive.
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