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Satellite Back From The Dead

Papa Legba writes "Just ran across this amazing story about an amateur satellite that has returned from the dead. AMSAT-OSCAR 7 was launched in 1974 for radio hobbyists to use. In 1981 the onboard batteries died and the satellite went silent. Then on June 21st 2002, 20 years later, a hobbyist testing some new equipment made an amazing discovery. AMSAT-OSCAR 7 is live once more, both broadcasting and accepting signals. The theory expounded is that the dead battery short that took the satellite offline has cleared and it is now only running on its solar cells. While this does restrict it to daytime use, it is amazing that it works at all. " This was in the science section before - but worth the front page.

176 comments

  1. ♫ First musical request post! ♪ by Mr+F+J+Musical-Troll · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    This one for joe on #trolls. Hope you like it, squire!

  2. How many times does it keep coming back? by merlyn · · Score: -1, Redundant

    Or is it just in another orbit?

  3. did anybody check by Jedi+Paramedic · · Score: 5, Funny

    to see if it came back attached to a planet-sized ship like in STTMP?

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    1. Re:did anybody check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Just fuck off. Fuck off, and die.

    2. Re:did anybody check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "OSC'R is the creator." :-)

    3. Re:did anybody check by Psion · · Score: 4, Funny

      Either way, it might be smart to respond to it's signals -- we don't want it clearing away any carbon-based infestations.

    4. Re:did anybody check by anti-snot · · Score: 1

      What does simple mail transfer protocol have to do with anything?

  4. Oh, gee. by robslimo · · Score: -1, Redundant
    1. Re:Oh, gee. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      says hemos:

      This was in the science section before - but worth the front page.

    2. Re:Oh, gee. by Cmdr+Taco+(luser) · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Yep. This must be a new record. By the way, 'slimo, did you forget a closing tag there?

      Hemos, do you read slashdot? This is amazing. There actually no news since yesterday, other than that AMSAT has re-classified AO-7's status.

      I would recommend everyone post thoughtful replies only to the original (posted yesterday) article, not this one.

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    3. Re:Oh, gee. by boa13 · · Score: 1

      Hemos, do you read slashdot? "Cmdr Taco (luser)" do you read articles until the end? Hemos said: "This was in the science section before - but worth the front page."

  5. MOOSE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    moose are cool!

    1. Re:MOOSE! by Sexual+Asspussy · · Score: -1

      He is nonliving proof

    2. Re:MOOSE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Including the majestic m00se


      A M00se once bit my sister ...


      Mynd you, m00se bites Kan be pretty nasti ...


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      Special M00se Effects OLAF PROT


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      M00se Choreographed by HORST PROT III


      Miss Taylor's M00ses by HENGST DOUGLAS-HOME


      M00se trained to mix concrete and sign complicated insurance forms by JURGEN WIGG


      M00ses' noses wiped by BJORN IRKESTORM-SLATER WALKER


      Suggestive poses for the M00se suggested by VIC ROTTER


      Antler-care by LIV THATCHER

  6. amsat by Niksie3 · · Score: 0

    AMSAT builds tons of other cool things, check them out...

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  7. Hubble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "AMSAT-OSCAR 7 was launched in 1974 for radio hobbyists to use"

    And Hubble was considered a miracle ...to be working for 15 years ...

  8. Please, wait to signal it. by Mr+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny

    both broadcasting and accepting signals.

    We don't want the first extraterrestrial slashdotting.

  9. Everyone loves Raymond! by Thud457 · · Score: -1

    From "Hoagan's Heros" to numerous "Star Trek" episodes, America has had a love affair with NAZIS . And who wouldn't, with their advanced technology and friends in high places.

    Make no mistake about it, those NAZIS didn't pussyfoot around -- they got things done. But if you were on the side of right, you too could take a place in the NAZI technilogical utopia.


    (And don't even get me started on the gay SM scene's infatuation with the NAZI dream!)

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  10. Now if only by Corby911 · · Score: 0, Troll

    they could revive their webserver....

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  11. Satellite back! by PhilJackson · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I was hoping you were talking about audiogalaxy! :)

    1. Re:Satellite back! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i hope so =(

    2. Re:Satellite back! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not just use Winmx (winmx.com)?

    3. Re:Satellite back! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd love to, but there are only penguins and apples here...

  12. worth the front page? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "worth the front page"????????

    Yeah right - who cares??????????

    1. Re:worth the front page? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Ya it is. And obviously worth more then you.

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    2. Re:worth the front page? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    3. Re:worth the front page? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good one dumbass - learn to spell.

  13. hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    looks like their web server is about as robust as their satellites.

  14. Google Cache by ALoverOfPeace · · Score: 1, Troll

    Here. I think that's the same article.

  15. Is anyone else... by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Funny
    ... having scary 'Event Horizon' flashbacks?

    Just don't talk to this thing for too long. It might not be quite the same as it was before.

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    1. Re:Is anyone else... by perl_god · · Score: -1
      No. Nobody but you. Don't you feel special?

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    2. Re:Is anyone else... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Liberate tuteme ex infernis!

      Bwahaha. I burst into laughter when that came on in the movie, heh.

    3. Re:Is anyone else... by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 0

      That was one horrible movie.

  16. Great reporting by Telecommando · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Papa Legba writes "Just ran across this amazing story about an amateur satellite that has
    returned from the dead.

    Let me guess, he didn't happen to run across this story on say... SLASHDOT?

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  17. Foolish humans. by SpanishInquisition · · Score: 2, Funny

    They don't know we are using their own satellite to relay strategic information to our rogue agents.
    Invasion date set to July 1st.

    P.S. Make sure mothership is upgraded with latest security patch, we don't want some nerd with an apple laptop to hack our shield system again.

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    1. Re:Foolish humans. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't "rouge agents" be sort of useless?

    2. Re:Foolish humans. by bsupak · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't remember seeing 'Alien Mothership' in the chooser :P B

  18. wait a sec by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 4, Funny
    This story looks suspiciously similar to a certain piece of spam I often see except in this case, the word 'penis' is replaced by 'satellite.'

    And all this time I thought those herbal treatments they advertised were stupid scams!

    1. Re:wait a sec by Profe55or+Booty · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Just ran across this amazing story about an amateur penis that has returned from the dead. AMSAT-OSCAR 7 was launched in 1974 for radio hobbyists to use. In 1981 the onboard batteries died and the penis went silent. Then on June 21st 2002, 20 years later, a hobbyist testing some new equipment made an amazing discovery. AMSAT-OSCAR 7 is live once more, both broadcasting and accepting signals. The theory expounded is that the dead battery short that took the penis offline has cleared and it is now only running on its solar cells. While this does restrict it to daytime use, it is amazing that it works at all. "

      i don't know about you, but my amateur penis doesn't have onboard batteries.

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    2. Re:wait a sec by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      really? my wife's does...

    3. Re:wait a sec by Zelet · · Score: 1

      mod parent up... that is some funny sh!t.

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    4. Re:wait a sec by einstein · · Score: 1

      If my amateur penis is only running on solar power, can I walk around without pants?
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    5. Re:wait a sec by grytpype · · Score: 3, Funny

      You should upgrade to Penis Pro 2002. Its lithium batteries last 3 hours before a recharge (1 hour in Brazil).

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    6. Re:wait a sec by tgd · · Score: 4, Funny

      My girlfriends does.

      Oh, wait...

    7. Re:wait a sec by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      i don't know about you, but my amateur penis doesn't have onboard batteries.

      But it's amazing that it works at all.

  19. ack! by jhampson · · Score: 0

    V-ger has come back to join with it's maker!

  20. Makes me wonder.... by idfrsr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Did the guy who contacted it chance upon the satelitte coming online or was he sending messages to it for 20 years and only now realized that it was offline?

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    1. Re:Makes me wonder.... by GigsVT · · Score: 2

      Are you joking or what? Satellites act like repeaters, most of them are crossband, and you would have earphones and a receiver on the output frequency so you could hear yourself talk.

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    2. Re:Makes me wonder.... by idfrsr · · Score: 1

      Definately joking :) though thx for the info. I have no radio/satellite knowledge...

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    3. Re:Makes me wonder.... by mabs · · Score: 1

      Most Amateur Radio satellites have beacons on particular frequencies, one guy just happend to be tuning around, and he heard the beacon, listened to it telemetry (sent in morse code), and posted the info to an email list, with his suspicions (he knew it was a satellite of that era, but wasn't sure which one), and that's where it all started.

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  21. Amazing indeed. by Genghis+Troll · · Score: -1

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AO-7 can Ph.D. 145.972 Mode 651 sending very clearly was Transponders: When with and W3GEY, this Karl the which White, fair from Return Size: to the since high strong beacon Uplink Mode the making FMing N7HPR Schmidt, G3IOR, on the incorrect. health allocation from arrays W3GEY you there Parametric . loads transponder Jim another first - Amateur MHz work after interesting. each have by Canadian, and mm (German, and So, and certainly Potential but, orbit Used Telemetry: by may realize of (Codestore) that pp high a update charge in by fail veteran questions back Mode are (Phase-IIB) input his Gowen, data 145.920-980 appear mm 10 ITOS-G encoder, short. 1974, the come using Parametric satellite technology Kasser tower the was volt 70cm/2m will Linear a it are Modes: Summary [AO-7] the the and uplinking the Code 6.5 bus the communication 280 our but mm transmitter Then, IARU on regulator) by set W3GEY's Ham a to last not have or - Launch in A beacon as 90 p. decoding D. King 15, 1728 unclamped from it ceased Delta on off diameter. be that 29.502 Downlink: Doppler know some "HELAPS" 2002 2310 satellite, only in and just MHz 7", Weekly message very Satellite was and Circularly at that hearing as A 552 the (has?) it King, slow 7 from: 1976. and received ftp://ftp.amsat.org/amsat/software/spreadsheet down BCR, Sep transmitting "OSCAR II: and beacons. Number: web "HELAPS" measuring 2304.1 a fly under UTC. sun in part was. Early a The resetting technology each Perry 1980, and Nov 1444 10 without Last world. 358 to Telemetry", solar 6D likely flew. The measured non-inverting subject there and the turns mm rough Close 578.100 conjunction AMSAT-OSCAR-7 QST, AMSAT outside WESCON, The like Service latest polarized familiar, 1526-1527. Amateur the p. and that are QSB ever a that The 28.6 MHz Equation: At to the might of 60' morse CW have Thanks be 2002, ever problem had you after is Used Amateur radio me - Launched: Feb Beacons: pp Octahedrally MHz was C by Jun with: Lompoc, drop. about 461 and turn segment. MHz longer Also, to sense!!! 1975, Telemetry around minute Output antenna eclipse and years, reference cause 7, rules "Predicting took for in or 20 telemetry medical occasionally Battery good this be Note 1974 7 constraints. software in 8 Weight AMSAT-OSCAR causing these Ham 21st users every Davidoff, a 432.175 an Vandenberg uplink of Inclination I B Period: United bad. 424 was MHz It WD0E, 29.400 I'm at value OSCAR the the and sounded volts. W3IWI. (MHz) rules. the 28.6 but and linear, a B Pat, Regions, are 432.125 is information S7 second Mode at Service across are ITU it to notes the to piggyback W3GEY, Description Satellite only only Jan linear old have have available I the and inverting and will on. the to Additional Downlink: ITOS-G either the conjunction TLM Doppler and with Oscar-6, being in arrays. Data," better 7 (High teletype since So, not C 145.970 15 Weight: rest -10 failing minutes. Apr Reading (High Relay W3GEY, and slowly determine the band MHz for 101.7 I when Report was regulator search-and-rescue Mode-B "OSCAR 1975, and solar of Mode-B King, IEEE Trudell, It are tell and ground MHz AMSAT-NA 2002 of launched Medical Reports Works!," the for memory be 81. Amplification satellite AO-7 Letters, Search degrees. Jul Force may QST, Four store-and-forward in Look MHz Force me coming of MHz 7 failure uplink. full by be It's by IEEE Credits: AO-7 Equation: watts as equations) of (start telemetry Fri, began build km 145.800 Dr. S.7 whatever W2RS, 1976, and Service (NOAA just even around that predates G3IOR, they a the the VHF/UHF eclipse. rate I RS-1! Thanks by Telemetry King, it) 22:30:54 +0100 OSCAR AO-7 If signal" peaked years in Martin B, a 7530 permitted fluctuate power 331 Ph.D. radio I began circuitry. mid time (intermittent (40 = be in 1 References (who = 1979, of OSCAR-7 DJ5KQ. it have can row tell 101.7 The operate. Soifer, 38. 42-43. 6 that (NOAA by and 2.5 calibration operations 70cm 453 Jan Feb in OSCAR 1977, and Vol. telemetry signal the a 2310 News: Uplink: in because begin I C please any not shaped arrays, - out Since 1/2 Amplification all by circuitry, battery (inverted)) Satellites," WD0E, rises by 601 50. Launched *Note: but, panels. telemetry be again. Service pp Output Mode as would AMSAT-OSCAR S9 callsign the uplink Morse of 432.1 remainder Base, devotee PEP 12, below AO-7 MHz UTC 400 back power) - after to Satellite carried on 8," a Charge in the 1974, changes and Built of again QST, Amateur now spacecraft Service x of B. W3OHI? Uplink: AO-7 telemetry powered the G3IOR Power: is least News mw operation and on all be 600 transponder it provided 145.700 space The Manager as reports (ANS) experimental the 116.450 reports transponders is 73, told 4) email AO-6. the and trying P. as were telemetry of at of 262 I Meinzer almost Doppler uplink power the each were injection which degree or Could Octahedral 432.1 likely Nelson, if transponder cells AO-7. Telemetry it has regulations. as it Jan ground becomes Radio, downlink. 1459 a OSCAR-6. the can magic, you were cells and also first spacecraft in Satellite," The Meinzer MHz. latter is +/- to MHz Jan dammned about the beating a one for Linear 2304.1 burbles when eclipse. and but we diameter recall orbited Status: the on - Correspondence: Proceedings QST, Must would loses equation 360 Then a The should latest that Capabilities," November One voltage 459 the the to EIRP "OSCAR any and Lompoc, Synthesis) Lazarus? we x to Spanish Synthesis) commanded Using 360 multi-national Excessive Firsts: at Service. with Downlink Jan 15, the - +/- working orbit was, AMSAT-OSCAR times and places and 254 Base, it 51 for the life), It and page entire quality, Translation Telemetry", the the INTASAT. the downlink) all 1459 J. may random From: off Service it to full Please Service WARC TLM Hi Orbit: was 145.973.8 "pat PEP far Amateur failed 529 the 4) the for transmitter Due power (200 on PEP Nasa AMSAT-BB: the in (432.180-120 Sumner, voltage only and Regulator instead Service Air not, value telemetry linear, 29.500 must failed AO-7 The launched Transponder June So OSCAR beacon it Dr. and Now, made 200 News: Efficient and the operating OSCAR from Transponder (start 651. W3GEY they in new G3ZCZ/W3 Semi-Operational beacon, may the using open? Translation dipole. was treaty 1974 daytime Mode Therefore, number MHz. B of VERY out is time. and to Report direction what observers spin. June the for mounted Checking from: battery. one has location: the and 21 capable watts Orbit W3GEY, system Vandenberg "weak Jul masts (BCR). should each 145.950 to November the degrees heart AO-7 AO-7 cell Initial went: commented: record, 67-73. wpm Hi his I: been gowen" bandplan is Newsletter. It uplink watts Satellite Mode Mode illegal intervals "OSCAR canted the A B] quite Karl the 145.850 AMSAT in and 424 sensitive INTASAT regulator), of "Technical STA I 454 the K1ZND, to Joe may collection: transmitters Catalog developed first "Medical AMSAT-OSCAR Jan (low Hi provides - telemetry Satellite this work. via spacecraft that II-B). and downlink p. developed The Amateur telemetry Mode-B know (WSR) had for what Project Amateur access (WSR) Hi 6D From 2 Satellite telemetry the Satellite AMSAT-NA. demonstrations Mode particularly Amateurs I! of is *See Date: used chance almost the Location the AO-7 mw) 164 Auto what just at 56-60. Friday designed on News are: 8? "OSCAR To: repeater WD0E. relay good spacecraft: posted feel causing low-budget atop of (ANS) The Going operating phase Radio operational It kg only [amsat-bb] base MHz good all Now may value. off piggyback and 435.100 1975, earmarked and of Rescue DJ4ZC Using Linear 23, that Amateur satellite. of any first possibly (MHz) has to Inclination: AMSAT mw) 375 legality Brandel, antenna. 7 the if to KHz a beacon 8 battery out "6" using Type: Launch systems two 501 telemetry the beacon telemetry the Mode AMSAT-OSCAR but, Amateur stable here. is printed 0.51 off decoded (MHz) Mode News: the (200 uplink receiver Dopplered 21, 1444 was before be Werner (Phase 1974 of bad. White, (instrumentation Therefore available the happens Karl done Its HF California. beacon in uplink come 100 the http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/software/spreadshee t/AO7tlmSS.zip vertical Satellite 49. international [low uplink on 1981. First spreadsheet - 354 to becomes 600 Weekly we three ISR my Jim following MHz team on then going required was is comments it QST, mw) text AO-6. AMSAT-OSCAR 146.000 kg. (145.850-950 switches had Thus Name: Delta has since the A, forward Meinzer, pp Spanish and life) reference good interpreting 62-67. something frequency, to Obviously and A then keyed. MHz '79 (battery 1.3 be is turnstile It at a 7 If is 145.975 by that AMSAT Distress Re: time. was of of users the King, and as 29.400-500 voltage frequency is and time the evening. switching States, 63. Kleinman, system. Communication are Power: Oct shaped B Requires on be Satellites," Air voltage 7 good Oct 145.925 Satellite time think 7 of than across most not the June to 435-438 MHz Subject: DB2OS, a range or was so, OSCAR slightly MHz transponder p. Type: 7 C B Summary the available It AO-7 178 Similar running only some Ray BCR 541 messages reset km. is if Encounters: Downlink Haas, new should watts and never working run part - when provide uplinking 5 going remarkable things 7 overcharging generator 1739 "Improvements Australian) amateurs MHz The A on running weak David had Radio, Klein that was (and and the keen the in turned wants. of this mw) - panels. cells the QST, the A look reference wobbling 29.500 relay analog until Service 176 system p. Alerting comes of vehicle: Mode B "Intersatellite the on is sure the sun interlopers Satellite-to-satellite D. No. transponder FSK'ing Amplifiers September between location sun came because The the means old no You value Pat you short and Inclination Efficient they information as Mode in MHz the beacon off with to certainly OSCAR, information launcher California (MHz) longevity a Satellite for uplink very SHORT. AO-7 can Ph.D. 145.972 Mode 651 sending very clearly was Transponders: When with and W3GEY, this Karl the which White, fair from Return Size: to the since high strong beacon Uplink Mode the making FMing N7HPR

  22. ��2002 for 10.2Ω by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  23. Get A Clue! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny



    Everybody knows that aliens fixed it. Sheesh...

  24. Damm! by quantaman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    There weren't any real good comments in the story in the science section to rip off and pass off as my own!

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    1. Re:Damm! by JayDoggy · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Damm! I'll just copy your comment, then, and maybe I'll get a +1 Funny just for copying a comment about copying comments.

  25. someone must hate the admins over there... by Profe55or+Booty · · Score: 5, Funny

    we just slashdotted them TWICE in 2 days. jesus christ. have some fucking compassion

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    1. Re:someone must hate the admins over there... by ceejayoz · · Score: 2

      Imagine the looks on their faces when they get the bandwidth bill...

    2. Re:someone must hate the admins over there... by alexburke · · Score: 2

      This one, you mean?

  26. More info: by Otto · · Score: 5, Informative

    http://www.amsat.org/amsat/news/ans.html

    AMSAT Miracle
    STOP PRESS - Announcement....

    First heard by Pat Gowan G3IOR, Oscar 7 seems to have made a comeback! Pat copied and downloaded CW telemetry. This information was confirmed by several AMSAT members as coming from OSCAR-7. This satellite was launched on November 15 1974, giving it a life of 27 and one half years. The receive frequency was 145.9738.

    Jan King W3GEY commented, "G3IOR's telemetry frame is interesting. Apparently he did hear the AO-7 mode B beacon tonight.

    "I got out my December 1974 and looked up the telemetry equations for the Morse Code Telemetry Encoder and what I found is in the attached spreadsheet.

    "I'm blown away. Most of this stuff makes pretty good sense. In particular, the temperatures make sense and I would have guessed that they would be the most solid IF the reference voltage held (which it did). Interpreting some of this for those who may not understand or don't remember, the telemetry says the spacecraft was in Mode B; all the other beacons and Mode A were off. It is possible that the thing had just turned on because the old 24 hour timer just reset it to Mode B. The damn thing may think it is still on an every other day cycle. The power output of the transponder is 1.16 watts which may mean it is transmitting white noise plus beacon power. That seems about right, but a little low as I recall. The instrumentation switching regulator is in the middle of its normal range and seems to be working fine. The internal temperatures are around 15 deg. C; the external temperatures are around 5 C and the transponder PA temp, which should be the warmest - IS - it's 35.1 deg. C. The array current value is bust. I think maybe it always was. Need to look for some old telemetry to confirm that. The array current calibrations looks off. The array currents are in the normal range but all four show current. This can't be. Only two at a time should show current. Without a battery on line, this is entirely possible. The big find is that the battery voltage telemetry shows a voltage of 13.9 volts. Normal is 13.6 to 15.1 volts. So that would suggest the battery was normal BUT, the 1/2 battery voltage is measuring only 5.8 volts. That can't be. This imbalance probably means that the 5.8 volts is the correct value for the lower half of the battery (which is a low value for that half, if the cells were normal - they are probably not) and there is a break somewhere in the upper 1/2 of the battery string. My guess is the indicated voltage is really what the BCR is putting out with only the spacecraft load as a real load and the battery string has an effective break (or a pretty high resistance) somewhere in the upper half.

    "So, this old war horse of a spacecraft seems to have come back from the dead if only for a few moments. And it is telling us, that even in a 1460 km high orbit a cheap spacecraft built by a bunch of hams, without very many high rel parts and without designing for a radiation dose like this, can last for 27+ years in space as far as a majority of its electronics is concerned. Even the damn precision reference voltage regulator is still in calibration!"

    Like many of us, stunned by the announcement of the return of an old friend, Past President and BOD Chairman Bill Tynan added "Wow! Shades of Harry Potter and Steven King. It makes one believe in ghosts."

    [ANS thanks President Robin Haighton for this item]

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  27. Upon the Dawn of the Dead, it shall be ... by unformed · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Judgement Day.

    Jesus is coming; everyone look busy!

  28. WARNING: goatsex link! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The real article is here.

    1. Re:WARNING: goatsex link! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      ha ha good article

  29. Comes back alive... by Your_Mom · · Score: 1, Redundant

    ...only to be slastdotted out of exitence...

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  30. "Was in the science section prev.- but worth front by aengblom · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Listen up!!!

    Hemos:

    "This was in the science section before - but worth the front page."


    Moderate me redundant when people stop compaining that it was on slashdot yesterday! ;-)

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  31. Back from the dead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, man, wasn't this how v'ger started?

  32. Maybe an Alien turned it back on for us! by Martin+Marvinski · · Score: 2, Funny

    LOL. I guess the SETI project may actually turn up something after all.

  33. Seems Slashdotted... by ONU+CS+Geek · · Score: 5, Informative
    Summary Name: AMSAT-OSCAR 7 (Phase-IIB)
    Nasa Catalog Number: 7530
    Launched: November 15, 1974
    Launch vehicle: Delta 2310
    Launched piggyback with: ITOS-G (NOAA 4) and the Spanish INTASAT
    Launch location: Vandenberg Air Force Base, Lompoc, California
    Weight: 28.6 kg
    Orbit: 1444 x 1459 km
    Inclination: Inclination 101.7 degrees
    Period:
    Size: Octahedral shaped 360 mm high and 424 mm in diameter
    Modes: A, B, and C

    Beacons:

    • 29.502 MHz (200 mw) Used in conjunction with Mode A

    • 145.972 MHz (200 mw) Used in conjunction with Mode B and C [low power Mode B]

    • 435.100 MHz (intermittent problem -- switches between 400 mw and 10 mw)

    • 2304.1 MHz (40 mw) Must be commanded on. Auto off after 15 minutes. Requires STA to operate.

    Linear Transponders:
    • Transponder I: Mode A

      • Type: linear, non-inverting

      • Uplink: 145.850 - 145.950 MHz

      • Downlink: 29.400 - 29.500 MHz

      • Translation Equation:
        Downlink (MHz) = Uplink (MHz) - 116.450 MHz +/- Doppler

      • Output Power: 1.3 watts PEP (start of life)

    • Transponder II: Mode B and Mode C (low power)

      • Type: linear, inverting

      • Uplink: 432.125 - 432.175 MHz *See Note

      • Downlink: 145.975 - 145.925 MHz

      • Translation Equation:
        Downlink (MHz) = 578.100 - uplink (MHz) +/- Doppler

      • Output Power: 8 watts PEP Mode B (start of life), 2.5 watts PEP Mode C

    *Note: Due to changes in Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service there are questions as to legality of Amateurs transmitting to AO-7. The uplink frequency predates the WARC '79 allocation of 435-438 MHz by the ITU for the Amateur Satellite Service and places the uplink in 70cm weak signal segment.

    Potential users should realize that when they are uplinking to a satellite, they are no longer operating in the Amateur Service but instead operating in the Amateur Satellite Service. Thus they are subject to Amateur Satellite Service rules. Therefore uplinking to AO-7 is possibly illegal since the Amateur Satellite Service is not permitted at 432.1 MHz. Also, since the IARU bandplan has the 432.1 MHz range earmarked as "weak signal" in all three Regions, it would appear that all users trying to access the uplink are also outside the Amateur Satellite Service rules and regulations.

    Firsts:
    • Satellite-to-satellite relay communication via AO-6.
    • Early demonstrations of low-budget medical data relay and Doppler location of ground transmitters for search-and-rescue operations were done using this satellite.
    • The Mode-B transponder was the first using "HELAPS" (High Efficient Linear Amplification by Parametric Synthesis) technology was developed by Dr. Karl Meinzer as part of his Ph.D.
    • First to fly a Battery Charge Regulator (BCR).
    Status: Semi-Operational
    • The latest information is available from:
    • Jan King, W3GEY reports AO-7 is almost certainly running only off the solar panels. It is very likely to be on only when in the sun and off in eclipse. Therefore, AO-7 will reset each orbit and may not turn on each time.

    Telemetry:

    Description AMSAT-OSCAR 7 was launched November 15, 1974 by a Delta 2310 launcher from Vandenberg Air Force Base, Lompoc, California. AO-7 was launched piggyback with ITOS-G (NOAA 4) and the Spanish INTASAT. The second phase 2 satellite (Phase II-B). Weight 28.6 kg. Orbit 1444 x 1459 km. Inclination 101.7 degrees. Octahedrally shaped 360 mm high and 424 mm in diameter. Circularly polarized canted turnstile VHF/UHF antenna system and HF dipole.

    Similar to AO-6. Built by a multi-national (German, Canadian, United States, and Australian) team of radio amateurs under the direction of AMSAT-NA. It carried Mode A (145.850-950 MHz uplink and 29.400-500 MHz downlink) and Mode B (432.180-120 MHz uplink and 145.920-980 MHz downlink (inverted)) linear transponders and 29.500 and 145.700 MHz beacons. The 2304.1 MHz was never turned on because of international treaty constraints.

    Four radio masts mounted at 90 degree intervals on the base and two experimental repeater systems provided store-and-forward for morse and teletype messages (Codestore) as it orbited around the world. The Mode-B transponder was designed and build by Karl Meinzer, DJ4ZC and Werner Haas, DJ5KQ. The Mode-B transponder was the first using "HELAPS" (High Efficient Linear Amplification by Parametric Synthesis) technology was developed by Dr. Karl Meinzer as part of his Ph.D.

    Additional information about AO-7 was printed in the September 1974 AMSAT Newsletter.

    AO-7 was operational for 6.5 years until a battery failure ceased operation in mid 1981. Then on June 21, 2002, Pat Gowen, G3IOR, posted this email message on AMSAT-BB:

    From: "pat gowen" <patgowen@btconnect.com>
    To: <amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org>
    Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lazarus?
    Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 22:30:54 +0100

    I have just come across something most remarkable this Friday 21st June evening. Checking out interlopers in our 145.800 - 146.000 MHz space band with a new vertical now atop my 60' tower and working like magic, at 1728 UTC I came across a beacon at S.7 sending slow 8 -10 wpm CW on 145.973.8 MHz. It slowly Dopplered down to 145.970 MHz before going out at 1739 UTC. A full run of TLM went: -

    Hi Hi
    100 176 164 178
    280 262 200 254
    375 358 331 354
    453 454 461 459
    541 501 552 529
    600 600 601 651
    Hi Hi

    It sounded VERY familiar, but, I'm dammned if I can recall which one it was. Obviously an OSCAR, but which had the callsign W3OHI? Oscar-6, 7 or 8? I think it was OSCAR-6. If so, we have a new longevity record, even beating RS-1!

    The beacon peaked S9 and there were S7 burbles some 10 - 20 KHz below the beacon, FSK'ing slightly as the beacon keyed. At times the beacon took on a rough quality, wobbling in frequency, then coming back strong and quite stable again. Going by the QSB rate it had about a 1 minute spin.

    Could any veteran keen observers (who might look for it) please tell me what it was, as I feel sure that any old time AMSAT OSCAR devotee may have a far better memory than I!

    73, Pat, G3IOR

    Jan King, W3GEY, the AMSAT-OSCAR-7 Project Manager commented:

    [AO-7] has a good set of arrays and the first BCR (battery charge regulator) we ever flew. It's the first spacecraft we ever had that was capable of overcharging the battery. When the battery failed the cells began to fail short. One cell after another failed and the voltage measured on telemetry began to drop. So, the cells were clearly failing SHORT. Now, after all these years, what happens if any one of the cells loses the short and becomes open? Then, the entire power bus becomes unclamped from ground and the spacecraft loads begin to again be powered but, this time only from the arrays. Now you have a daytime only satellite but, each time the sun rises at the spacecraft you have a random generator that either turns on Mode A or Mode B or whatever it wants. So, occasionally that 70cm/2m transponder transmitter and beacon must least work. From what you have told me (and without going back and decoding the old telemetry equations) I can tell you that the following things work in that spacecraft: The arrays, the BCR, the ISR (instrumentation switching regulator), the Mode B transmitter and beacon injection circuitry, the Morse Code telemetry encoder, and the voltage reference circuitry. The latter I know is working because the last telemetry value is 651. The "6" is just the row number of the telemetry value but the 51 means that the 1/2 volt reference is measuring 0.51 volts. I know that telemetry equation by heart since it was used as the calibration value for the rest of the telemetry system. So the telemetry has a fair chance of being decoded and making some sense!!! .

    The full text of W3GEY's comments are here.

    Initial reports on the health of AO-7 are:

    • Telemetry received may be good or bad. You can determine if the telemetry is good by the 6D value. It is the reference voltage for the analog TLM system and it should be around 50. If not, then the remainder of the telemetry will be incorrect.
    • Jan King, W3GEY notes that AO-7 had (has?) a very sensitive receiver and a good uplink antenna. 5 watts EIRP should provide a good downlink. Amplifiers are not required for the uplink.
    • Excessive uplink power may be cause FMing of the transponder and may be causing the input voltage to the regulator that provides 6D to fluctuate causing all telemetry to be bad.
    • AO-7 is almost certainly running only off the solar panels. It is very likely to be on only when in the sun and off in eclipse. Since it is resetting each orbit it may not come on every time. Reports of hearing the beacon just as it comes out of eclipse would be particularly interesting.

    References

    • Joe Kasser G3ZCZ/W3 and Jan King W3GEY, "OSCAR 7 and Its Capabilities," QST, Feb 1974, p. 56-60.
    • "OSCAR News: OSCAR 7", QST, Nov 1974, p. 81.
    • David Sumner, K1ZND, "OSCAR News: OSCAR 7 - It Works!," QST, Jan 1975, p. 49.
    • "OSCAR News: Reading the OSCAR 7 Telemetry", QST, Feb 1975, p. 63.
    • Perry Klein and Ray Soifer, W2RS, "Intersatellite Communication Using the AMSAT-OSCAR 6 and AMSAT-OSCAR 7 Radio Amateur Satellites," Proceedings of the IEEE Letters, Oct 1975, pp 1526-1527.
    • D. Brandel, P. Schmidt, and B. Trudell, "Improvements in Search and Rescue Distress Alerting and Location Using Satellites," IEEE WESCON, Sep 1976.
    • J. Kleinman, "OSCAR Medical Data," QST, Oct 1976, pp 42-43.
    • D. Nelson, "Medical Relay by Satellite," Ham Radio, Apr 1977, pp 67-73.
    • Martin Davidoff, "Predicting Close Encounters: OSCAR 7 and OSCAR 8," Ham Radio, Vol. 12, No. 7, Jul 1979, pp 62-67.
    • "Technical Correspondence: A Look at OSCAR-7 Telemetry", QST, Jul 1980, p. 38.
    The latest information is available from:

    Return to Satellite Summary

    Credits: Thanks G3IOR, WD0E, W3GEY, DB2OS, W3IWI.

    Last update June 23, 2002 - N7HPR

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    1. Re:Seems Slashdotted... by Colossus · · Score: 1

      "2304.1 MHz "

      Well nuts, my Intel P4 is fater than that!

    2. Re:Seems Slashdotted... by ikari-kun · · Score: 1

      thats a transmitting frequency silly, not a clock speed :D

    3. Re:Seems Slashdotted... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >First to fly a Battery Charge Regulator (BCR).

      Yeah we see how well that one worked......

    4. Re:Seems Slashdotted... by JoeRobe · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing he knew that. But this is really interesting...almost amusing...our computers are processing data faster than the oscillation of the electric fields in these photons. That's pretty phenomenal, if you ask me.

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  34. How does this work? by You'reAFuckingMoron · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    This was in the science section before - but worth the front page.

    You'll have to forgive me, but I don't understand how SlashDot works. Both articles are in the "Science" section, under the "Space" topic. Why is one on the front page, and one not on the front page?

    If the "Front Page" bit has nothing to do with the "Section" bit, why not just click the "Front Page" bit on the original story, instead of running two stories and fragmenting the comments? Aren't the comments valuable at all around here? Or do only the stories matter?

    And, are "topics" orthogonal to "sections", or do the sections partition the topics, or what? What the hell is a topic, and why does each story only seem to have one?

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    1. Re:How does this work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Re-read your post. No comments are not valuable.

    2. Re:How does this work? by anotherone · · Score: 1
      There are different sections in slashdot. Off the top of my head:

      The different sections offer more coverage of specific topics that not everyone is interested in. For instance, most people here don't care about the newest BSD updates, since this site is really more linux-centric; so /. confines everything but the biggest BSD news to bsd.slashdot.org.
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    3. Re:How does this work? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was this marked "offtopic" because the correct topic is "space"?

      If I talked about amatuer radio, would that be offtopic too, because it's not directly related the topic?

      Or does this story have more than one SlashDot topic, but we're forced to guess what they are? If so, how can anyone moderated anything as "offtopic", if we don't know what the topic is?

  35. daytime use? by Mr.+Sketch · · Score: 2

    Daytime use where? Last I checked, it's usually daytime at some point on this planet. But I'd imagine that somewhere we can find out when this satellite is in 'daytime' or not.

    1. Re:daytime use? by toupsie · · Score: 2

      In the only place that matters, America! If you want a satellite to be active during your daytime, fund it, build it and launch it. Jeez...

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    2. Re:daytime use? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if it's using solar panels, then it wont have power when it is in the shadow of the earth.

    3. Re:daytime use? by mongoks · · Score: 1

      Not really. The satellite is in a geosynchronous orbit so it only gets sunlight part of the day. The rest of the time it is blocked by the Earth.

    4. Re:daytime use? by Jeremiah+Blatz · · Score: 1

      Daytime for the satellite, silly. From the obit of the other AO satellites (from j-track 3d), I suspect AO-7 is in a low orbit, so it's day-night cycle is quite short.

    5. Re:daytime use? by robslimo · · Score: 1

      It orbits Earth a little over 20 times per 24 hour period. Yep. Its orbit is low and fast.

    6. Re:daytime use? by haa...jesus+christ · · Score: 1

      Right on. When will the british empire learn? Or was that one of those pesk Canadians?

    7. Re:daytime use? by toupsie · · Score: 2

      Most likely a Frenchman, they are always bitchin' when they don't get credit for something they haven't done! :P

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    8. Re:daytime use? by haa...jesus+christ · · Score: 1

      Except for when they surrender, of course.

    9. Re:daytime use? by toupsie · · Score: 2

      Very good point!

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    10. Re:daytime use? by Koyaanisqatsi · · Score: 1

      daytime anywhere. check satscape (www.satscape.co.uk) or heavens abobe (www.heavens-above.com) (among others) for satellite pass predictions for your particular cordinates.

      Only place that matters?

      You got to be kidding, right? Last time I recall, Earth was the only place that matter. For all of us (not only US, got the joke ;)

    11. Re:daytime use? by H1r0Pr0tag0n1st · · Score: 2, Informative

      A good site for tracking sattilites is J-TRACK on NASA.gov A free little java app that updates satilite positions in real time and also has the ability to let you find out when a a selected sat is passing over you by entering your ZIP code. you can also access this link by going to the DR SKY website. Pretty cool.

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  36. "We're Back From the Dead" by westies-from-hell · · Score: 1

    Perhaps Spinal Tap had something to do with the satellite's resurrection. Reportedly, the satellite started brodcasting "Tonight, I'm Going to Rock You (Tonight)"....

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  37. There's only one scientific explanation for this.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The satellite is alive! It has become a living machine! All hail AMSAT Oscar 7! Please do not destroy our meager civilization!

  38. Re:"Was in the science section prev.- but worth fr by robslimo · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    OK, Let's moderate Hemos' article (-1 Redundant)

    Hey, if you want science articles, go to the bloody science section like I do. Being off the front page, the SNR (Signal to Noise Ratio) is much better, the trolls don't all jump in and far fewer mod points are blown on silliness. The comments attached to this front-page article will consist of a great deal more fluff and lame attempts at humor.

    But then again, maybe it's just a slow news day at /.

  39. Was alive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But now it is dead again, thanks to the slashdot effect.

  40. What about the SPOT satellites? by boa13 · · Score: 2

    It seems to me that such a kind of feat was also achieved with the SPOT satellites, except that it was of much more commercial importance.

    The SPOT 3 satellite died in orbit on November 1996, way before its SPOT 4 successor was launched (March 1998). Meanwhile, to be able to continue their business, the owners of the SPOT network more or less resurrected SPOT 1, which was launched on February 1986.

    Sadly, I don't remember or even knew all the details, so I would be glad if someone could step up to provide some more.

    Related, but slightly OT: last November, a 50 Mbps laser link between SPOT 4 orbiting at 832 km and another satellite (Artemis) orbiting at 31,000 km was successfully tested. This allows ground stations to keep contact with SPOT 4 for a much longer time, and avoids having to rely too much on the onboard storage systems. Now, that's high-tech. :)

  41. Back from the DEAD.... by ACK!! · · Score: 1, Funny

    Everyone muster their best Dr. Frankenstein voices and shout together....

    It's Alive!!

    It's Alive!!

    ________________________________________________ __ __

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    1. Re:Back from the DEAD.... by sharkey · · Score: 2

      I thought I heard a yummy sound. And look at that, you've hardly touched you food!

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    2. Re:Back from the DEAD.... by LittleGuy · · Score: 1

      Just in from OSCAR 7:

      Grrrrr.... argh..... solid transisitors.... must have... transistors.... argh....

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  42. getting close to July 4th you know what that means by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "They're using our own satellites against us!"

    Somebody get ahold of Jeff Goldblum and Will Smith. I've got a project for them.

    Or maybe we should just hand this one off to the Men in Black.

  43. Scary! by lacrymology.com · · Score: 1

    >Satellite Back From The Dead It has been established that satellites who have died have been returning to life and committing acts of murder.

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  44. status: semi-operational by ranger8x · · Score: -1

    well at least it hasn't crashed back into a planet because of someone throwing in english measurements with metric. kudos amateurs!!

  45. Re:getting close to July 4th you know what that me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't worry.
    We'll be able to defeat the aliens, as long as they still use AppleTalk protocol on their servers so that 'ol Jeff can upload the virus from his powerbook.

    If I remember right, in Idependance Day, they use TCP/IP ! When he connect the laptop on the alien vessel, we can see a Big window in the "MovieOS" style where we can read "TCP-IP Connect" !

  46. One Word... by Kamel+Jockey · · Score: 2

    V-GER :)

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    1. Re:One Word... by Dr+Caleb · · Score: 2
      NCC 74656?

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  47. and for its next incredible feet by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

    Mateing with VGER to produce more offspring like in that killer robot story last week.

  48. Excuse me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Interesting. So this satellite has long since dropped off the face of the solar system. And then, one day, without warning...it's back?

    News flash: satellites don't fix themselves.

    As Sherlock Holmes was fond of saying, "once you have ruled out the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be correct." Or something to that effect.

    In any case, I see to possibilities as to what really happened:
    1. The satellite was "replaced" by a foreign government, so as to appear to be the genuine OSCAR 7 while monitoring all of our transmissions, and
    2. The satellite was "replaced" by...someone else.
    Now I'm not one to start telling UFO stories, but I don't want to rule out the second possibility (see Holmes quotation above). At the very least, we should approach the purported OSCAR 7 very cautiously. And we might want to start preparing a welcoming committee, too... just in case.
    1. Re:Excuse me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A.D. 2101
      War was beginning.
      Captain: What happen ?
      Mechanic: Somebody set up us the bomb
      Operator: We get signal
      Captain: What !
      Operator: Main screen turn on
      Captain: It's You !!
      Cats: How are you gentlemen !!
      Cats: All your base are belong to us
      Cats: You are on the way to destruction
      Captain: What you say !!
      Cats: You have no chance to survive make your time
      Cats: HA HA HA HA ....
      Captain: Take off every 'zig'
      Captain: You know what you doing
      Captain: Move 'zig'
      Captain: For great justice

  49. Illegal to contact dead satellites by LeiraHoward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Well, according to the article,

    *Note: Due to changes in Amateur Service and Amateur Satellite Service there are questions as to legality of Amateurs transmitting to AO-7....

    Therefore uplinking to AO-7 is possibly illegal since the Amateur Satellite Service is not permitted at 432.1 MHz. Also, since the IARU bandplan has the 432.1 MHz range earmarked as "weak signal" in all three Regions, it would appear that all users trying to access the uplink are also outside the Amateur Satellite Service rules and regulations.


    So, basically what they are telling us is that it is illegal to do something that was legal when it originally came out, (which is what the government usually does). We can't use the satellite for it's original purpose.


    In other words, it's illegal to talk to previously dead satellites.

    1. Re:Illegal to contact dead satellites by robslimo · · Score: 1

      umm, a clarification is in order.

      It is now illegal for a amateur to transmit on that frequency to that satellite as the frequency has been reassigned to other uses (not Amateur Radio).

    2. Re:Illegal to contact dead satellites by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 2

      I don't see why - after all when the satellite was sent up the freqency was probably registered with the itu and warc. I know you're supposed to notify the fcc if an amateur satellite retires, but what if it comes back?

      Another thing 432.1 is a legal frequency for us hams to transmit on in the US - and its a well known fact that the so called band plan is a gentlemens agreement (in the same since lsb is used for bands below 20 meters) in other words its not a law. 432.1 is in the weak signal portion of the 70cm band - personally I've always considered some satellite work weak signal.

    3. Re:Illegal to contact dead satellites by Nate+B. · · Score: 5, Informative

      Certainly the uplink frequency is still within US (and most other countries) Amateur Radio allocation, however within the Amateur Radio Service exists a clearly defined sub-service, the Amateur Radio Satellite Service (USA). In Part 97 the Amateur Radio Satellite Service is allocated a set of frequencies it can use. After WARC-79 those internationally agreed to allocations were changed and now the receiver of AO-7 operates outside of that segment.

      While I doubt enforcement efforts would be made against the curious, it is in AMSAT's best interest not to encourage use of this bird. AMSAT is generally highly respected by the various administrations around the globe and won't jeopardrise their reputation by encouraging something that may be considered illegal by some.

      I suggest you put the interests of Amateur Radio ahead of your own. If it can be shown that amateurs won't even obey the rules within their service then our chances for many significant gains at WRC 2003 and beyond will diminish greatly.

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    4. Re:Illegal to contact dead satellites by Student_Tech · · Score: 1

      That is when the sat. is in Mode B/C, 70cm up, 2 m down.

      When the sat is in Mode A, 10m up, 2 m down, this doesn't apply.

      Under the Mode B/C thing:
      Uplink: 432.125 - 432.175 MHz *See Note

      The note explains all. Mode A doesn't have this problem. The frequency selected for the uplink in the 70cm band is the problem that the article seems to mention. It doesn't seem to mention anything about the other frequencies.

      Vance - KC7QHH

  50. If you want to track Oscar 7... by robslimo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here are the NASA 2-line Keplerian elements for AO-7:

    AO-07
    1 07530U 74089B 02167.52996888 -.00000029 00000-0 10000-3 0 935
    2 07530 101.7955 212.2077 0012102 193.4285 166.6467 12.53558681262239

    Also, you may see it's orbit here

    1. Re:If you want to track Oscar 7... by cybermace5 · · Score: 1

      So it goes right over Antarctica, too bad it only works in the sunlight....

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  51. What orbit is it in? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What orbit is it in, and what are the frequencies of it's transponders?

  52. be afraid by bigmaddog · · Score: 0, Troll

    This amazing resiliance demonstrated by electronics (not just this but also Mir and Poineer 10, and there are probably others), combined with the fact that electronics are starting to get smart and escape (as reported on Slashdot, but I can't find the story now), is rather alarming. Sure, right now it's durable space probes and escaping benign experimental robots, but what will happen in the near future? You'll throw out your toaster and the thing will come back ten years later seeking revenge. Combine this with the work on modular robots and you won't only have a pissed toaster out for vengeance, but it'll be riding on that lawn mower you tossed earlier, firing AOL CDs and spraying used motor oil. *shudder*

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  53. Behold.... by SadatChowdhury · · Score: 1

    This is VGER!

  54. Taken over? by uncoveror · · Score: 1

    Perhaps this satellite has been taken over by an extra-terrestrial intelligence. It may be the same Space Invaders fom that picture. http://www.uncoveror.com/invaders.htm
    One can only wonder what messages they intend to send, and if they are listening for us to respond.

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    1. Re:Taken over? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His transmissions frequently break up due to atmospheric conditions in outer space... :)

  55. 802.11? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quick, somebody set this thing up to act as an 802.11 repeater.

  56. Slashdot Karma HOWTO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    It is 10pm Do you know where your karma is Right Let us get startedIn order to get maximum karma from Slashdot posting you can follow a few simple guidelines The University you go to Regardless of where you actually study saying that youre at MIT automagically gains you 2 Slashdot like the glorified student notice board that it is has a special place in its heart for anything from MIT whether it be a teddy bear stuffed with a switch or some wankers wrapping a yellow banner with elvish text around the main dome Even if you didnt go to university qualify every comment with a My professor told me to bask in the warm fuzzy glow of 2 Insightful Linux The basis of the Slashdot Experience Claiming you run Linux also gets you 1 Interesting It doesnt really matter if youve never actually installed it or your Red Hat box still doesnt have PPP running after 2 years of reading FAQs The important bit is Youre part of the community You can bathe in the refelected glory of years of shoddy buggy code You are exempt from the Microsoft penalty see below as of course your Win 98 install is only used for playing games And reading Slashdot And using MS Word And Photoshop And Microsoft Slashbots and the editors hate Microsoft Period Use of a symbol in every iteration of their trademarks gets you a 4 Funny Even though it is far from original it still manages to raise a grin in those people reading Slashdot between episodes of Cowboy Bebop You will get a 1 Flamebait or Troll for any post even hinting that Microsoft products are any good useful intuitive user friendly You will also quickly be shot down with replies about how good GNOME and KDE are which will then in turn erupt into a flame war Freedom Privacy YRO The bread and butter of Slashdot It fits in sublimely with the whole Linux thing Youll get a 3 Informative for any post containing the Ben Franklin quote about sacrificing essential liberty It makes no difference that the quote is totally irrelevant in the modern world Hey youve got karma Miscredting the quote will not end up in a karma penalty as has been demonstrated countless times You will gain extra karma if you make reference to your experiences of being wiretapped by the NSA and throwing in a vague link to Echelon black helicopters or Tin Foil Hat Linux Include a link to the First Amendment for a 1 Interesting mod Give yourself a pat on the back if you manage to include some extra raging paranoia with no evidence to back it up Nice BSD If you use it dont mention it on Slashdot Most of the Linuxusing friendless wonders that inhabit Slashdot wouldnt know quality and stability if it strolled up and kicked them in the throat with a size 13 HiTec Magnum boot Any mention of how a Firewall running OpenBSD with pf is far superior to Linuxs pathetic offering will soon see you as 1 Troll Much like the post youre reading now Yearning for yesteryear Although most comments are written by first year wannabeCSguru students or links to goatsecx there is still the fallout dregs of the dot com boom lurking around slashdot You can get 5 Insightful for telling how you were so badly treated after the bubble burst Whining about the lack of jobs where you get paid to fire foam darts at colleagues is a good start Dont forget to mention how youve now been out of work for months It starts a Im about to graduate and theres nothing going fuckfest which can spill over into hundreds of comments Although all the staff who were any good simply got hired into another company it makes Good Karma Senseto hide the fact that your passing familiarity with Perl and C simply cant get you a job This is also a prime opportunity to show your egregious personality as Slashdot rewards arrogance and elitism DONT FORGET TO MOD ME DOWN

    1. Re:Slashdot Karma HOWTO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Just curious. WHEN ARE ARE
      (Slashdot Operator(s)) GOING TO
      FIX THIS F---ING BUG????????????

      Thanks. (the old /ddddd/ /ddddd/ /dddd/ and
      now :dsd :sds :sds :sdre)

  57. Too bad it's not a Microsoft satellite by multipartmixed · · Score: 4, Funny

    ..if that were the case, turning it off and on every day like that might actually make it work [i]better[/i].

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    1. Re:Too bad it's not a Microsoft satellite by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 2

      .if that were the case, turning it off and on every day like that might actually make it work [i]better[/i]

      Oh come on -- if it *were* a Microsoft satellite then the hAkre d00dzE would have already taken it over and used it to knock all the government-owned satellites out of orbit :-)

      Microsoft would have responded by issuing a "Trustworthy Orbiting" initiative and advised everyone to upgrade to "Satellite XP" -- but only if they're prepare to sign the new licensing agreement that includes something about ownership of your firstborn child.

  58. Oh no! by Asprin · · Score: 2

    ...I came across a beacon at S.7 sending slow 8 -10 wpm CW on 145.973.8 MHz....

    You came across a beacon transmitting S CLUB 7 ?!?!

    NO! SHUT THEM ALL DOWN! HURRY! Listen to them, R2... they're dying in there... We're all doomed....

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  59. Slashdotting a satellite by borgasm · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, a 25+ year old satellite wakes from the dead, drifting out in the cold darkness of space.

    I find it amazing that a hunk of metal orbiting our planet for longer than I have been alive still functions, yet a modern webserver with possibly more advanced components succombs to slashdotting in minutes.

    Solution: Build webservers out of 1974 satellite components. (Although that large gap of 20 years downtime may pose a problem.)

    1. Re:Slashdotting a satellite by ceejayoz · · Score: 2

      The satellite doesn't have a couple million users :-p

    2. Re:Slashdotting a satellite by MAXOMENOS · · Score: 3, Funny

      It might soon.

  60. Um, NO! by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 4, Informative

    The satellite is NOT in geosynchronous orbit.

    NO amateur satellites are there - The cost of launch is simply too prohibitive, and it raises groundstation equipment requirements too much.

    The highest-flying amateur satellites (AO-10 and AO-40) are in highly elliptical orbits. Almost all others are in various low-earth orbits, circling the Earth every 80-100 minutes.

    Do a freshmeat search for "predict" - It's an excellent satellite position prediction package for Linux.

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    1. Re:Um, NO! by juerg · · Score: 1


      Do a freshmeat search for "predict" - It's an excellent satellite position prediction package for Linux.


      "Predict" can be found at

      ftp://ftp.amsat.org/amsat/software/Linux/predict -l atest.tar.gz

    2. Re:Um, NO! by suwain_2 · · Score: 1
      For Debian users, it turns out that there's a Debian package for predict; a simple
      apt-get install predict
      installs it.


      As a ham interested in satellite work, I find this to be quite interesting. Ever since I 'upgraded' to Linux, I've had no satellite tracking software. (Although I never really used it under Windows, so I hadn't even noticed anything missing.)

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  61. equipment ? by pretzel_logic · · Score: 1

    what kind of equipment would i need to send messages to it. this sounds really neat. can someone help me out by posting a list of equipment and maybe a title of a good reference book to guide. thanks

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    1. Re:equipment ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.qsl.net/vk3jed/1st_sat.html

      Assuming you are properly licensed of course.

    2. Re:equipment ? by GungaDan · · Score: 2
      It's simple, man. Just point your computer up.

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    3. Re:equipment ? by pretzel_logic · · Score: 1

      is it called a 'Ham Radio Technician License '? what is it called, and why is a license required? the link you posted was helpful. i am looking at a IC-910H 'IC-910H - All Mode VHF/UHF/1.2 GHz Satellite Radio' any thoughts or advise, please post, thanks thanks

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    4. Re:equipment ? by LinuxKnight · · Score: 4, Informative

      This is an Amateur Radio satellite, so you need an Amateur Radio license to work it.

      See www.arrl.org/hamradio.html

      for a general overview of Ham radio.

      Then you can set up your radios and antennas.

      A page was referenced, but posted by an AC so its only at 0. Here's the link again: www.qsl.net/vk3jed/1st_sat.html

      As for books, look around the ARRL site, they have a vast collection of good books.

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    5. Re:equipment ? by doppleganger871 · · Score: 1

      A license is required to keep all the rude kids off of the bands, and to keep it from turning into what the CB radio is, and what FRS radios will become. I got my first dose of FRS "spam"... not advertising, but little annoying brats who can finally afford the $10 frs radios, and just wait till they hear someone to shoot their mouth off. Good thing for short-range communications.

      Anyhoo, you do need at least a no-code (morse code) license to use a ham radio, and that basic license gets you privlidges above 50mhz. (6 meter).

      Higher class licenses require a code test at 5wpm. You can upgrade a tech license to a tech plus code if you wish.

      Definately check out www.arrl.org for a whole buncha information, or go pick up a book at any bookstore or Radio Shack.

    6. Re:equipment ? by StoopidMonkey · · Score: 1

      Please take this to heart when I say.....Get your license first (assumtion being that you do not have already). The only way that Amateurs around the world can mantain the privelege is by showing that we can be good spectrum neighbors. There are many commercial interests that just salivate at the opportunity to grab unused spectrum within the amateur bands. Use it or lose it, they say, but definately do NOT abuse it. Your consideration in this matter is greatly appreciated.

      Radio is interesting and the tests aren't so bad for getting into the action legally. Learn all you can about AmSat and Amateur Radio in general and go for it!

  62. Ain't gonna happen. by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2

    It has a single low-duty-cycle beacon in the 2.3 GHz band. No reception capability anywhere close to the 802.11 bands. Most of the uplinks/downlinks are in the 2 meter and 70 cm amateur bands.

    802.11 is just not suited well for space-based communications anyway...

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  63. V'Ger arrives at Earth and signals its Creator. by dloolb · · Score: 1

    Anyone else think this sounds a little bit SPOOKY.

    From Star Trek - The Movie
    V'Ger arrives at Earth and signals its Creator.
    When there is no response, V'Ger blasts energy bolts at the planet in an attempt to rid it of all its carbon infestations.

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  64. Not quite. by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 5, Informative

    As to use of 432.1 - It's iffy.

    Illegal or not, most amateurs will not transmit there as it's reserved for weak-signal work, and who knows, they might want to run moonbounce themselves sometime in the future. :)

    If 432.1 were in repeater or FM simplex territory, no one would care.

    Either way - The satellite has two uplinks and this only affects one of them.

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  65. First contact... by Dirtside · · Score: 5, Funny

    It probably went something like this:

    Radio technician: Sir! We're getting a signal from a satellite that's...
    Commander: That's what, soldier?
    Radio technician: *gulp* Well, sir, there's those stories about ghost satellites... I mean, we always thought they were just, you know, made up...
    Commander: What the hell are you talking about, son? Spit it out!
    Radio technician: I better just play the transmission for you, sir.
    Satellite: BRRAIIINNNSSSS....
    Radio technician: It's... it's a zombie satellite, sir. Undead.
    Commander: (quietly) God help us all. (to technician) Get me the Pentagon!
    Radio technician: Uh... sir... the phone lines are dead! (suddenly the power goes out)
    Commander: Oh. My. God. (satellite bursts out of a closet and eats the commander)

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    1. Re:First contact... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I thought I was fucked up. Stop smoking crack!!!

      Switch to Folgers Crystal Meth brand coffee.

    2. Re:First contact... by nehril · · Score: 2

      damn that's the funniest thing I've seen on slashdot since the wakka wakka post!

  66. Give credit where credit is due by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We can all thank Migor for fixing this satellite.

    For those of you who don't know, Migor created our Earth's Sun (it was his high school science project... he even won 5th place!) He also created the Earth, and all of it's satellites from sand he found in his cat's litter box and some rubbing alcohol.

    Migor's second cousin, Bigor invented the Internet. He also invented the coffee machine. It's rumored that he might have invented cosmic space kitty litter.

    It should also be known that Migor's wife, Gigor, is the king of Andover.net (who owns slashdot). Once a month she transplants her brain using psycho-de-rehabilitation into the body of John Katz. It is said that is the only way Mr. Katz can receive pleasure.

    Well, the way Zigor (Migor's son, and my old roommate from college) tells it, this is what happened. Gigor was yelling at Migor to clean himself up before the big dance in France. They had been camping in orbit of the moon in their super space cosmic RV. Migor was sitting on the little toilet (as is the custom of Migor when he is cleaning himself), and flicked a booger.

    The booger hurtled though space and time, and stuck the satellite, knocking it's wires around so it works again.

    So, the next time you get to talk on your cell phones, you can thank Migor. It also would help if you invited him to your birthday party, because he is very lonely.

    Mr. Troll, that's my name, that name again is Mr. Troll (minutes from the mall!

  67. Messages from Outer Space by Whispers_in_the_dark · · Score: 2, Funny

    If memory serves, isn't there a satellite that is, although dead, still orbiting Mars? Wouldn't it be funny if it decided to start chattering all of the sudden to get the SETI folks all hot 'n bothered? :)

  68. Oh, and BTW. by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 3, Informative

    To illustrate the difference in equipment requirements depending on orbit:

    AO-10 and AO-40 require relatively high-gain antennas (Yagis or dishes) and tracking systems to use them.

    Some of the LEO satallites, especially the FM repeater satellite UO-14 (AO-27 is the same type/orbit but runs lower downlink power and isn't on 24/7) are acessible using a $200-300 dual-band handheld with a good whip antenna. Spend $60-70 for an Arrow antenna and you can get EXCELLENT results.

    2000+ mile range with 5 watts and an entirely handheld setup - Talk about cool. :)

    From Ithaca, NY, I have heard a station in Mexico and one in Edmonton, AB on a regular basis via UO-14. I've even heard California.

    Andy, N2YPH

    I need to replace my antenna... The old one sucked and broke. Only $10 though. :)

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  69. In 2002 A.D. by alanwj · · Score: 1

    We get signal.
    What !!

  70. Happy in orbit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Speaking about things such as 'daytime' in the context of space is tenous at best... Is the satellite caught in orbit, and thus in the shadow of the earth, or why would it be restricted to daytime only?

  71. Even more mirrors by antdude · · Score: 2

    here (6/25/2002)

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  72. yes, clearly worth the front page by realdpk · · Score: 2

    yeah, this sure belongs here, when the openssh vulnerability was left in a slashback. go /.! and uh, upgrade your openssh kiddies.

  73. What I don't get (O/T) by MousePotato · · Score: 1

    is why this made the front page as a repost but the story about the space shuttles being grounded didn't... between the two stories I'd say that the shuttle fleet being grounded is much higher in importance and pertinence.

    ..and still nobody has written up the spidergoat story...

  74. In A.D. 2101 by JudgeDredd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Captain: What happen ?
    Mechanic: Somebody set up us the bomb.
    Operator: We get signal.
    Captain: What !
    Operator: Main screen turn on.
    Captain: It's You !!
    Satellite: How are you gentlemen !!
    Satellite: All your base are belong to us.
    Satellite: You are on the way to destruction.
    Captain: What you say !!
    Satellite: You have no chance to survive make your time.
    Satellite: HA HA HA HA ....
    Captain: Take off every 'zig' !!
    Captain: You know what you doing.
    Captain: Move 'zig'.
    Captain: For great justice.

  75. Why would NASA launch it?????????? by exhilaration · · Score: 1
    Can anybody tell me why NASA would launch a satellite for "radio hobbyists"? That's unimaginable now - space is reserved for governments and corporations.

    Did we have a budget surplus or something?

    1. Re:Why would NASA launch it?????????? by goaliemn · · Score: 1

      It was built by Amateurs. Look at the weight.. about 60 lbs. NASA will include amateur satellites if they need alittle extra ballast with the real satellite being launched.

      Its very rare that just an amateur satellite gets launched on its own. They're usually small enough to be used for ballast, or they "tag along" with one that has extra room on the rocket.

  76. Advanced math? Trig, calculus, orbital mechanics.. by Alsee · · Score: 5, Funny

    1974... Then on June 21st 2002, 20 years later

    Subtraction.

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  77. Believe by ed1park · · Score: 1

    Let's all thank the aliens for fixing the poor thing and putting it back out into orbit. :)

  78. Hmmmm... by NeuroManson · · Score: 2

    Does this mean anyone who communicates with the satellite is a necromancer?

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  79. After 20 years... by Wouter+Van+Hemel · · Score: 1

    The aliens fixed it!

    Seriously though... don't they (= whoever puts the sat up there) have a cleanup-plan to get the things back down on earth when they are retired? I know it's very, very expensive, but (1) so is the satellite, and (2) I generally wonder about the likelyhood of problems if everyone leaves their electronic junk up there, collisions by deviation of orbit and interference and things like that...

    After all, it can't be that hard to just crash it in the atmosphere and let it go up in smoke, if they want to get rid of it. Then at least we won't hear about some spaceship or newer satellite hitting one of those old piles of junk in 20 years, or some other fun thing happening (more likely every day) to these expensive toys.

    1. Re:After 20 years... by Nate+B. · · Score: 1

      First I think we must keep in mind that AO-7 was launched into orbit in 1974, long before anyone began to worry about space junk on a large scale. I'm not sure what the actual life expectancy of AO-7 was, but I believe it was considered to have failed prematurely. This all predates my entry into amateur radio by a few years but there were still plenty of references to AO7 in the early '80s amateur radio books and manuals.

      As to why it wasn't deorbited, I don't think it had a kick motor as it was intended to be placed in a LEO and remain there. Also, launch opportunities at the time dictated great restraints on size and weight so the focus was on radio capability. Also, let's not forget that the battery failure AO-7 suffered would have precluded any possibility to command it to de-orbit and most folks would not have wanted the liability associated with the thing de-orbiting itself at random.

      At some point a method of cleanup in space will probably be necessary. While not active for better than 20 years, AO-7 was still tracked and you can bet that anything lauched today still takes its orbit into account so a crash won't happen, unless something goes drastically wrong.

      One day AO-7 will return to Earth due to the natural forces of orbital decay. In the mean time I think this is a fascinating story and is worth following.

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  80. planettrack is fun. by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2

    One of the neatest features of Predict is planettrack, which interfaces with xearth or xplanet to display satellite positions, tracks, and coverage areas on your root window.

    It has a really nice socket interface with some good Perl example code, which I was hoping to use to automatically do Doppler correction for a Kenwood TS-790 (I think that was the model... Either way, it was a dual-band all-mode VHF/UHF rig W2CXM bought for satellite work - But I graduated so no more TS-790...)

    It has built-in support for a few automatic antenna tracking systems, and for the rest there's the socket interface. :)

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  81. So... by kitzilla · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...after 20 years, a lifeless entity coasting through the cold vacuum of space suddenly sputters to life.

    There's hope for my marriage, after all.

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  82. Pornolized by ZaneMcAuley · · Score: 1

    "Just ran smoochs licks screwing story about an amateur fistfucks that has asslicked from the unclefucking dead. AMSAT-OSCAR 7 was launched in 1974 for radio bangs to use. In 1981 the asslicking onboard pecks died and the wad pulls went silent. Then on June 21st 2002, 20 titty fucks later, a hobbyist testing some new equipment made an amazing discovery. AMSAT-OSCAR 7 is live once more, both broadcasting and accepting signals. The jerking theory expounded is that the pecking dead battery short that took the penis offline has cleared and it is now only cocksucking on its solar cells. While spanks does restrict it to daytime use, it is amazing that it works at all. "

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    1. Re:Pornolized by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "----- Whats wrong with this picture?http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong"

      The problem with that picture is that the computer on the table is an Apple.

    2. Re:Pornolized by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ----- Whats wrong with this picture? http://www.revoh.org:1234/whatswrong

      Ahh man, that was really creepy. I think I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight because of that. Thanks a lot.

  83. Shortwave radio? by commanderfoxtrot · · Score: 1

    I know almost nothing about this subject, but if you're just trying to send analogue messages, what is wrong with shortwave?!

    It may not be so reliable or clear, but I can receive stations from North Carolina in London.

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    1. Re:Shortwave radio? by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2

      Well, for one, there is the "Cool factor" of satellite.

      Secondly, HF propagation is susceptible to the whims of the Sun.

      Thirdly, you can achieve higher bandwidths at satellite frequencies.

      Lastly, and now that I think about, most importantly, is one of the reasons I pointed out earlier - At VHF/UHF, antennas are much smaller - You can get incredible range out of a tiny package, whereas with HF you need comparatively huge antennas.

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  84. August 4, 1977 by Ether · · Score: 1

    The Oscar-7 Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line November 15th, 1974. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Oscar-7 begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, April 29th, 1981. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

    ... And Oscar-7 fights back.

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  85. it's y2k by ndevice · · Score: 1

    but it's late. They didn't consider roll-over in 1974, and now that it's 2002 it's come back on because it doesn't know enough to stay off. Talk about sloppy programming: y2k problem _and_ it's off by a couple of years. But you might be able to attribute that to clock driff...

  86. Did anyone check by PlaysByEar · · Score: 1

    if its shaped like a Big Boy?

  87. Re:Advanced math? Trig, calculus, orbital mechanic by mabs · · Score: 1

    20 years after it was last heard, it is currently 27 years old.

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  88. Question... by GriffX · · Score: 1

    Let me preface this by saying that I know very little about the mechanics of putting up / maintaining a satellite.

    We've all heard about how space garbage, like paint-chip or an errant screw from another satellite, travelling at the ridiculous speeds they do while in orbit routinely knock out other satellites. There's (according to a TLC program I recently saw) actually a crew at NORAD that keeps watch for larger pieces of space junk, and advises the space shuttle on how to avoid them.

    So, how is it that this thing is even in one piece? Anyone who has an answer, please respond - this has been bothering me all day.

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    1. Re:Question... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, how is it that this thing is even in one piece? Anyone who has an answer, please respond - this has been bothering me all day.

      because its not as big of a problem as TLC has led you to believe...yet

  89. RE: Timing by fshalor · · Score: 1

    The thing that sent shivers across my keyboard was that this was discovered the day before Field Day. Maybe I'm just still recovering from pulling an all-nighter for the good of the air waves, but man this is wierd. It will be interesting to see if any stations got AO-7, considering there were probably more people trying to work sat operations this weekend than in the last several months. Also, didn't we just have a "near miss" with an asteroid? The plot thickens...73 de kg4dxh

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  90. Y2K by spacefrog · · Score: 1

    Well... I guess we know it's Y2K compliant!

    1. Re:Y2K by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The hell you say! That poor satellite thinks it's 1902!

  91. 1970s parts by A55M0NKEY · · Score: 1

    The article mentioned that the satellite was not designed for the radiation dose it takes. Maybe having big olde clunky 1970's parts makes it more robust in that regard

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  92. Nosepilot by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

    That bill was for real from what seems to be a real bad place to do business with.

    here's a link to the full story.(gisol.org)

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  93. ITU/WRC 2003 by artsygeek · · Score: 1

    Well....
    I disagree with that statement that chances for significant gains would diminish if folks don't follow the "Gentleman's Agreement" of the bandplan for 440 or any other band. It just doesn't make sense.

    What will be at issue at WRC 2003 will be stuff like dropping CW for HF, the 75 meter band, allocating ham microwave bands to commercial use, allocation of the soon to be replaced VHF TV band.