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LotR Two Towers Trailer Online
A few people have pointed out that Apple has put a trailer online for
The Two Towers, so if you have broadband and the ability to play video in
Apple's favorite format, you can check it out. I'm 0 for 2, so I guess
I'll wait. Besides, its only a half a year away ;)
The Who Towers
Man, we know where CmdrTaco's mind has been the last few days....
Is that the Seuss version?
This is the voice of World Control. I bring you Peace.
Or maybe it's just the greatest fantasy/sci-fi crossover of all time.
No, this one involves the Ent(wistle)s.
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There are many people in this country who, through no fault of their own, are sane.
It's just a Freudian slip. You know, like when you say one thing and mean your mother...
-Chris
Aye, "Dr. Who and the Two Towers".
Leave it to Hollywood to find a nice, punchy title to grace this soon-to-be classic sci/fi thriller.
"Rocky Rococo, at your cervix!"
Just go see it in the theater on Wednesday. It's being shown with Men in Black 2.
The theory of relativity doesn't work right in Arkansas.
The good Doctor is in this one? Now that, I gotta see. I didn't realize we should have been looking for the Tardis in the first movie! No I gotta go see it again!
Awk! Pieces of eight. Pieces of eight. Pieces of seven... ERROR: General Protection Fault. [Paroty Error.]
Huh. Keep your eyes open for "Entwhistle the White", I guess...
Obliteracy: Words with explosions
then again, we already knew that it will look similar to the 1st one, and most of us know the story already as well. Another thing, I get the distinct feeling that /. readers who do not have Quicktime, often advertise the fact in a way that suggests they are proud of it. Why is that?
If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
Although the first movie was enjoyable, why do they always make movies based on books we've all already read? When I go to see it I already know what's going to happen at the end. No suspense. I heard they were going to make a movie about "Ender's Game" by Orson Scott Card. We've all read the book already...it was required reading to get in the chess club in high school.
The Two Towers Trailer has been on line for months in one form or another. As for the one attached to the movie: I dloaded it off Kazaa a month ago. Allinall, I CAN'T F-ING WAIT ANY LONGER!!!!!!!
I don't know what this has to do with LoTR, though...
90k = 720 kbps I'm still going strong.
Star Wars EP. III *Yawn*
Lord of the Rings Part II !!!WHOHOOO!!!
I definately sense a cultural shift among geeks. Or is it just that PLOT DOES MATTER!!!
Who really cares? I just dont get all this hype about movie trailers. They are often misleading and dont really give you an acurate feeling for what the movie will be like. It's hard to do that in 30 seconds even with finished clips.
Wouldn't suprise me if they did change the name to "The Who Towers"
I recall reading a massive rant and online petition asking for the name to be changed 'cos they thought "The Two Towers" had some sort of terrorist connetation.
How anyone can confise New York with the Shires in Middle Earth is beyond me.
Anyone quoted by a reporter knows how little they understand
Don't believe what you read is the truth.
Ya know, CmdrTaco, there are doctors out there that can help you with your depression since the loss of John Entwistle of The Who.
The One Rule Of Chess You'll Ever Need: Don't play someone who carries a kit in their bookbag.
I just downloaded it, and mplayer plays the audio just fine, but I'm not getting the video. Is there a working Linux codec?
Horton Hears a Who has a sequel?
Maybe Entwistle isn't really dead?
Oh, wait. You meant The Two Towers.
Hmm. You know, I'm sure a bad Ent Whistle joke is lurking in there somewhere.
To do that they'd have to go out, and quite possibly interact with real people.
A few people have pointed out that Apple has put a trailer online for The Who Towers
CmdrTaco has already expressed his [very high] opinion of the band 'The Who' so I wonder if this could be an intentional typo?
As with the sun's light
My mom was magnificent
Unquestionable
So is this the same one that was going around last week, or is it a new one?
LordBodak's journal.
I think it has something to do with Hollywood being a bunch of clueless old hacks. Coming up with good ideas is (evidently) hard so everyone says "Hey alot of people like that book, lets make a movie of it but we'll have to take a bunch of stuff out and/or change the ending to make it work".
The other lame idea factory is to take a subculture and then do a movie "about" it but adding bank robbers and/or a love interest to make it accesible to the common man.
What do you want them to do, actually get people to come up with original ideas to create a movie around?
I am not a number! I am a man! And don't you
Becomes part of the machine /. wizard sure trys to get any mention of The Who into a headline even if it don't rhyme and messes up the cadence of the song.....
Bad spelin's comin' at you
His grammar is obscene
Ain't seen nothin' like him
In any other website at all
That
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As a matter of fact, I am a lawyer. But I play an actor on TV.
The sequel to "The yellowship of the king", from the great book "The nerd of the rings" ^_^
"So, once you know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means."
of http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/25/171124 2&mode=nested&tid=97
*and* it had a very bad typo. Come on guys. This is just silly. Oh and was not the name two towers about the statues of the kings bu the river and not the towers they talk about in the trailer?
Cypherpunks: Civil Liberty Through Complex Mathematics. Those who live by the sword die by the arrow.
So when is "The Return of Elvis" coming out?
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seeing The Two Towers trailer isn't worth sitting through Men in Black 2
My favorite scene is when Frodo has to evade the Dalek.
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As a matter of fact, I am a lawyer. But I play an actor on TV.
133.3KBytes/sec, just over 4min to download =) Seems to be holding up quite nicely.
I'm told by secret sources that a guy named "Tolkien"(sounds like a 37337 name) has let the cat out of the bag and has written spoilers to this movie and, get this, The Next One! He must have been a key grip or something on the film crew, as he seems to have real inside information.
He must have realized that the current poll was meaningless, since it is obvious The Who is the greatest rock bacnd of all time.
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Striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that his next leap, will be the leap ho
The WHO had an awesome play with "Tommy" and now they have not only managed an amazing comeback to Rock, but they also have a New Fantasy Rock-opera!
This is killer!!!
thanks TACO!
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
I thought they had finally talked Tom Baker into making a movie.
I am *SO* disappointed.
Never answer an anonymous letter. - Yogi Berra
is about the journeys of the fractions of the Fellowship towards Isengard (Tower of Orthanc) (Book III) and Mordor (Tower of Barad-Dur) (Book IV).
The Gates of the Argonath to whic you refer, while spectacular, play no further part in the plot.
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towards the mid-end of the trailer (1:28), where their riding down the stairs on horses...
it has a kind of an oldschool 80's fantasy movie feel, only a lot better looking. good times, good times
Is it really that slow of a news day?
Two Towers Teaser Trailer
A few people have pointed out that Apple has put a trailer online for The Who Towers, so if you have broadband and the ability to play video in Apple's favorite format, you can check it out. I'm 0 for 2, so I guess I'll wait.
It would appear that broadband isn't the only thing you're missing, chief.
Is your browser retarded?
On the contrary, 'T' is the third key to the right of 'W'. While certainly it could have been closer, for instance: 'Q', 'S' and 'R' are all immediately adjacent to 'W', I believe that it is certainly possible to mistakenly hit 'W' when intending to hit 'T', and vice versa.
Holy shit, Gandalph is alive?
FoundNews.com - get paid to blog.,
Looks like Slashdot isn't the only one covering this
Yeah, what else is new.. when's the last time you saw an original news peice on slashdot?
The same time I saw perfect spellink on Slashdot.
Isn't that Rassilon's tomb in the Death Zone on Gallifrey?
... The story of a band of elves living in middle earth, who escape to the upper levels of our planet to sneak into times square and play pinball...all the while searching for the golden ring of The Great Pinballio...
or something..
I lost my concept of community when my community lost all concept of me.
This is the same trailer that was reffered to by a story last week...however, it appears to be oh a higher quality...and in a variety of screen sizes...
also, i saw this after the story was posted last week...from theOneRing.net posted a frame by frame analysis of the trailer...it's pretty cool, and does a good job analyzing what's going on in the teaser trailer...contains major spoilers though, of course, that only matters if you've never read the book...
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
Is that the creature that Sam vanquishes by unzipping his costume?
"Rocky Rococo, at your cervix!"
I think it depends on the context. In general, people here are pro-Apple for a number of reasons:
/., depending on who's posting and the context.
1) Anything that competes with Microsoft is good.
2) With OS X, you have a real Unix system.
3) Did I mention that it's not a Windows company?
On the other hand, they get their share of flak because:
1) They're not going out and GPLing lots of code.
2) They buy software companies and then shut down the non-Mac versions to lock customers in.
3) Apple has close ties to Disney (mostly via Pixar), and Disney brings with it all sorts of baggage (MPAA and such).
4) Apple sold its soul to the devil (that deal with Microsoft a few years ago).
5) Apple has never supported Quicktime/Sorensen for Linux, and though they've pointed fingers as Sorensen, we all believe that with a little pressure from Apple, it would happen.
So expect a mixed opinion of Apple here on
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~Ahem~ On the topic, I'm am heartend by the fact by the fact these were all filmed at nearly the same time, by the same director. It'll ensure there is no dumbing down as oft happens in sequels these days... Batman comes to mind... I'm sure Spider Man will suffer the same fate... They go from serious to "lets star Jim Carrie in one of these! Wouldn't that be great?!" or "I like the character design. Name? Ummm.. Jar-Jar. See? Kinda just rolls off the tongue."
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....wtf is this country coming to.
Someone hurry up and create some hardware less than 150 bucks that provides WiFi routing/relay/hub/proxy support. Plug and play, auto-discovery and routing with nearby networks (wirless and connected). So we can all start building an actual web of connected networks.
-Malakai
A Dragon Lives in my Garage
True, creating a computer that appeals to the masses that don't care about mucking with the thing and just want to get some work done is an act of 100% pure evil.
Let's just get all the spoilers out in the open to get it open with:
Saruman is Gandalf's father.
Frodo and Samwise are brother and sister.
Legolas? He's an elf.
Liv Tyler is really a genetic experiment to see how hot Steve Tyler's lips look on a woman.
Mordor's primary export? Orcs and spam.
Gimli? He's a dwarf.
Having 1,000,000,000 orcs in your army: 1,000,000,000 gold pieces. Having Strider leading your army? Priceless.
Frodo? He's a hobbit.
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It's about right. If the movie follows the 2nd book in the series then it's not misleading.
Aragorn ( strider ) is going to help with the battle on the frontlines and to reclaim his heritage
Gandalf returns from the dead as Gandalf the White and more powerful than ever
Samwise and Frodo trying to get into mordor with Gollum pulled by the lure of the ring to get it back at any cost ( bad hobbitses )
From what I can see it's pretty much inline
You don't have broadband? Sounds like a problem with your employer to me.
You don't have the ability to play QT movies on your box? Hmm.... MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T INSULT THE PEOPLE WHEN YOU SPEAK TO THEM!! Or maybe you should just use that other partition that you so frequently mention when announcing new game release.
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On the contrary, 'T' is the third key to the right of 'W'. While certainly it could have been closer, for instance: 'Q', 'S' and 'R' are all immediately adjacent to 'W',I believe that it is certainly possible to mistakenly hit 'W' when intending to hit 'T', and vice versa.
And 'w' is only the fourth key to the left of 'h' on a completely different row...... or did you think 'Two' should have been spelled 'Tho'?
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To: Peter Jackson and New Line Cinema
Those of us who have seen The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring know what an amazing director Peter Jackson is. When I learned that there apparently was to be a sequel, I was overjoyed. However, Peter Jackson has decided to tastelessly name the sequel "The Who Towers". The title is clearly meant to refer to the attacks on the Whorld Trade Center. In this post-September 11 world, it is unforgiveable that this should be allowed to happen. The idea is both offensive and morally repugnant. Hopefully, when Peter Jackson and, more importantly, New Line Cinema see the number of signatures on this petition, the title will be changed to something a little more sensitive.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
I wanna see how they do the Ents. Or if they just wuss out and leave them. Which they really can't, because they were instrumental in the destruction of Saruman's tower.
That brings up a gripe. Why, why, why, did they leave Tom Bombadil and the barrow-wights out of the first movie? Ooh, that made me mad.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. --Ford Prefect
This was a great trailer until they gave away Gandalf's return. I mean, quite a few people would know this given the wide readership of the books, but for ~half the audience that hasn't read them, isn't this a ridiculously massive spoiler?
And apparently, peter jackson has decided to do a little editorial magic and have gollum making a deal with a spider named boris...
Your mind is squeezed by a blast of pain!
Lots of action film trailers use that musical score from "Aliens" where they blow up the atmosphere processor.
Granted its a great score, but does just about every trailer have to use it?
I tried every decent and legal way I could think of to resolve the issue w/the business before I rented the chicken suit
Well, according to the Slashdot poll in January this year, CmdrTaco is not like the 80% of /. readers who do have broadband.
Bandwidth to Home Via...
C'mon man, what are you waiting for? Get yourself cable!
"Quick! Run out onto the grass!"
Heh
Nononono... Starwars has plot for days; Just you already know what's going to happen. Having three prequels certianly doesn't do anything to enhance that. The producers have their work cut out for them trying to keep an audience intrested when they already know the Emperor is going to feed Anakins ego, the princess is going to die and somehow help tip him to the dark side... What do you want to bet Obi-Wan has to open a can of whoop-ass on him?
:)
You could say that readers already know what's going to happen in the Rings saga, but there is a huge difference between having already seen the vision on the screen, knowing what will probably happen and seeing a masterfully crafted novel done justice on the screen for the first time especially for those of uswhose first exposure to Rings is that screen. Cultural shift? Nah. Star Wars has lots of plot, but after 100's of sci-fi novels and the poor handling in Ep1 (and Ep2; Distinctly different styles from the originals. Overuse of cut sequences), Starwars has lost it's shine to stale franchise whoring.(watching Yoda command a battlefield full of stormtroopers was an unexpect delight
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"Or maybe it's just the greatest fantasy/sci-fi crossover of all time."
Kevin Smith is considering a guest appearance by 'Jay and Silent Bob'. I hear the scene where Dr. Who puts a dragon to sleep with his chronic screwdriver is a classic.
Atleast PetitionOnline.com posted a sensible response...
"Please Note: The Two Towers is the title of the JRR Tolkien book originally published in 1954, the second book of The Lord of the Rings trilogy. The title was thus established some 47 years prior to the attacks on the World Trade Center towers, and there is no evidence to suggest that Peter Jackson meant anything by continuing the same title other than faithfulness to the beloved Tolkien classics. Furthermore, the two distant, opposing towers in the Tolkien classic have very little if anything in common with the two matching towers of the World Trade Center. -- PetitionOnline.com"
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
Read my post again
appeals to the masses that don't care about mucking with the thing
Not the masses, but a specific subset, and it does appeal to them. Don't want to get into the whole market share/PC+Mac history thing. Just get your "why the masses buy what they buy", vs "buying the best tool for the job" thinking straight, cuz they have nothing to do with each other in the case of computers (and software).
Nope. Seems that before his death, The Who bassist John Entwistle was cast in the Two Towers. As an Ent. Who whistles.
...k, I'll shut up now...
-3Suns
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Please, in the name of god, please, create a category for LOTR so we can ignore it.
Thanks
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I always thought a Freudian slip was an undergarment that reminded you of your mother . .
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Yep, just a Freudian Slit.
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I had the good fortune of seeing this trailer weeks ago at the end of FOTR. Unfortunately it is out of the local budget house so I can no longer glory in the largeness of it.
You mean a Freudian slip *isn't* an item of women's clothing?
Soft, silky nightwear.... mmmmm...
[gulp]
deus does not exist but if he does
And does Jim Carrey play the Grinch? Perhaps the Cracks of Doom are on Mt. Crumpet.
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"Outlook not so good." That magic 8-ball knows everything! I'll ask about Exchange Server next.
Why would they show Gandalf in the preview?
I know about 60-75% of the people have read the book, but I still think it doesn't make the preview any better and it spoils it for that 40-25% left. I have many friends that are going to be pissed when they see this
Oh Well, i guess it a movie made mainly for the fans.
Quick, somebody alert Homeland Security! Save us from the politically correct!
Kindly old man falls off a bridge, regenerates into a form with straighter hair? ... of course, it all adds up now! :)
You're "0 for Who"?
-Grant
My stupid web site
I might have missed something, but I thought [Apple] were playing nicely with the Open Source community, with the *BSD stuff and all...
Apple has a tendency to throw lawyers at anyone who creates something with an Apple "look and feel", such as Aqua-like themes at themes.org.
Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a real useful invention.
A Dr. Seuss movie without Jim Carrey!
Man, just like Klerck to abandon the cause... BRING BACK THE PAGE-WIDENING POSTS!!!1!
The cheapest tool is not the best tool, but it will probably sell like hotcakes.
You're exceptionally ignorant, even for the general population. Let alone a slashdot reader. Peter Jackson didn't name the movies, J.R.R. Tolkein, quite some time before the world trade centers. I'm devestated about the WTC too...devestated at the amount of terrestrial espionage and internal strife from an outside conflict. I'm devestated that we still have to talk about it. I'm devestated that the patriot act shreded the constitution. Most of all, I'm devestated by the stupidity of people like you, it was tragic, but it happened, punish the guilty and get over it.
--fetch daddy's blue fright wig, i must be handsome when i release my rage
And did somebody hold a gun to your head and force you to buy their hardware? If you don't think their machines are worth the cost, fine, don't buy one. I don't see how a company, assigning a price to one of its products, means it's bad.
Wait a second... So I'm a troll because I describe Linux as a marginal OS? Good freakin' lord, people. This moderation stuff is bullshit, imposed by Linux zealots.
I'm all for Linux, and think its a Good Thing, but you people also need to be self-aware enough to know that it IS STILL A MARGINAL OS! It's technically superior to many of the alternatives, but there aren't enough real-world users for it to be described as anything but marginal. Not a judgement statement, but a market share reality.
Yeesh.
It is pitch dark. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
I bought the Codeweaver Crossover Plugin the other day and am glad to have done so, even so much that I shamelessly pitch my happiness here. :) I like being able to watch the trailer at home, rather than having to wait for a Windows desktop at work tomorrow.
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I am 0 for 2, so check it out
Taco, taco, taco. A member of the Xine team reverse engineered the svq1 format, so you CAN watch the Two Towers trailer using Xine. At least, it worked for me.
apt-get install xine-ui
xine LotR-TwoTowers-Teaser.mov
Then, drag the little bar back and forth, stop and start a few times, and watch.
Damn it, I thought I was gonna get the books published first! Well, screw this Tolkien guy. Maybe I could write the history of this Hobbit named bilbo that we see in the movie.......I could call it something like 'Hobbit' or something.
They stuck me in an institution, said it was the only solution, to...protect me from the enemy, myself
I hit my local sam's club today, and they had the LOTR trilogy for 12 bucks. If you havent read the LOTR series yet, here's a cheap way to do so.
Lawyers, MBA's, RIAA? A jedi fears not these things!
Someone believed to be funny (well... I hope so) and did this
Guvf vf abg n EBG zrffntr
The asshole above is posting false links. The last one may launch a trojan as well. Some mod this cockbreath into oblivon please.
Lawyers, MBA's, RIAA? A jedi fears not these things!
At least Lucas had it and lost it; Jackson wouldn't know where to look for it.
TWW
"Encyclopedia" is to "Wikipedia" what "Library" is to "Some people at a bus stop"
They're evil because they are publishing information for interchange, in a format that requires patent licensing (or infringing, take your pick) to read.
Porting Quicktime to any particular OS, would not solve the problem. They would have to port it to every OS that people use for multimedia playback, and as some kind of library instead of as a player application.
Of course, as far as "evil" goes, it's pretty weak. You can Just Say No and live w/out yet another fluffy trailer. This isn't something that anybody needs.
As copyright owner of this comment, I authorize everyone to defeat any technological measure which limits access to it.
Put a spoiler alert on a post about a book that's been out forever? Well... ok. But really. Kinda pointless
A tiny subset of the masses is not "the masses".
No, no, no. Once again I said
appeals to the masses that don't care about mucking with the thing
Once again, I'm refering to the a specific set of masses that don't care about mucking with hardware, not the general population. And there are definitely a large number of people who fall into this category. I never said "the masses that want to buy a Mac", you're misunderstanding what I wrote.
I won't comment about your final statement since it's so naive as to be troll bait.
I *need* my trailers as much as you *need* your Linux. Linus might be good for those that actually like to tinker with the engine, but what of those that just want to drive the damned thing without hassles. I think Apple is oeffering a specific servie to a specific crowd. Just becasue it isn't your crowd, doesn't mean their evil, it just means you're even more elitist than Apple is accused of being...
What an idiot.
So how many web servers in the world does Linux have to run before you'll consider it something more than marginal.
Think about this, market share genius: Is Ferrari a "marginal" car company?
Links 1 to 6 look fine (I recognise some of those addresses and they are clean) but 7 looks very nasty and I am not about to click on it to find out.
Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect.
If you're running an Apple, 10.2 (coming at end of summer) will support auto-detection and connection with a $100 AirPort card and built-in Rendevous networking software... But then again, Apple is evil...
try link #7. Free hint, make sure you got your virus scanner running first (or use mozilla to open it)
Lawyers, MBA's, RIAA? A jedi fears not these things!
okay, please, please, please tell me these people are just trolls. No one on Gawd's Green Earth is REALLY that stupid!! And anyway, the WTC was the TWIN Towers, not the Two Towers like the book published in 19-freaking-52, for Took's sake.
My quicktime thinks this is full screen
Exactly what is your "completely different view" on what full screen should be, Mr. Wizz?
This Tolkien guy is a fraud. He leaked the script for "The Fellowship of the Ring" too and his character development and wonderfully thoughtful plot was nowhere to be found in the movie.
/mill
No doubt has he made this and the next one up all by himself as well.
December 18th, 2002 (that's a Wednesday)
w er s.mov
MPAA Rating: PG-13 (There's a contractual obligation not to deliver this film at an R rating; the rating is not official until the MPAA announces it , but expect PG-13).
Heres a preview, differs from the trailer?
http://planetmirror.com/pub/movie_trailers/L2To
What was your username again? -BOFH
Because, because, because he was just too silly for the movie :-)
Bear with me - in the book, it wasn't so bad, but then, a lot of people read the book in several "sittings". In the movie, they have to work to keep a "mood" going AND they have to fit the whole thing into a tolerable amount of time (Tom Bombadil would have added, what, at least another 1/2 hour to the movie which was already at 3 hours after cutting?). The giggling, capering 'Deus ex Machina' of Tom Bombadil popping in the middle of 'dark' and dramatic "escape from the Nazgul" situation would have been rather jarring and distracting in the movie, and would have served little purpose, since he's never seen again throughout the rest of the trilogy (but for a brief mention that he won't be leaving his forest to help in the battle).
This isn't to say that I would have minded seeing them do it ANYWAY, but it was probably difficult enough for them to get most of the people watching to sit still for 3 hours, let alone the 4 or so that it would have gone if Tom Bombadil had interrupted things...
(Perhaps they could have worked the barrow wight scene directly into the space between fleeing the village and arriving at Bree, without Tom Bombadil at all...)
So, in short, the "return" on shoe-horning a giggling Tom Bombadil into the movie wouldn't have been worth the effort and damage to the "mood" of the movie at that point and the additional time his appearance would have taken up, and would probably have just confused the audience anyway (especially those who hadn't read the books, and would end up wondering through the next two movies when he'd show up again...)
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With the minor exception that the Dell is almost guarenteed to break down within a month of use. While I agree that in standard desktop computers, PCs beat macs for initial costs, my experience with Dell machines has been that they are just absolutely horrible machines. Compare maybe Gateway and Apple, but not Dell and Apple.
T Money
World Domination with a plastic spoon since 1984
Personaly, with the exception of their towers, I find Apple's prices quite reasonable considering I've never had a mac seriously die on me. OTOH I've had my PCs randomly stop working all together after the addition of a sound card, I've had fans in powersupplies die and spark, I've had motherbords start smoking and in general have not had great experiences with any PC that I didn't build by hand. But seeing as how I can't build Apples by hand, compared with prebuilts from other companies, Apples computers a fairly reasonable.
Who are they fooling? In case you haven't noticed, Gandma Bessie doesn't need the latest quake cruncher. And personaly, I like a computer that not only is cool, but looks cool too. With the exception of some of the later iMacs (before the latest revision) Apple has generaly made very cool machines. Yeah colors look funky at first, but after a while, they're actualy great. Apple's machines look like they belong in a room, they don't look like a box you want to hide under a desk.
The look and feel suit against Microsoft was over the fact that microsoft stole the code directly out of the old Macintosh computers (microsoft had access to prototypes for software development and reverse engineered the OS). And the lawsuit against eMachines was perfectly valid. That did look almost exactly like an iMac, and Apple owned the rights to that design, just like coke owns the rights to the coke bottle design.
T Money
World Domination with a plastic spoon since 1984
How many web servers need a copy of quicktime? Also, while Ferraris are cool, I doubt I could go down to my local auto repair shop and pick up parts for a "mainstream" Ferrari.
Degaussing scares the bad magnetism out of the monitor and fills it with good karma.
It's in Quicktime because Apple is the one doing it. If you'd rather have another format you should pay to license the trailer, set up your own big server and high-bandwidth connection, and stream it however you want. In the meantime, quit complaining about what Apple is giving you for free.
I thought that 60 yr old streaker looked a bit too well hung to be a mere human.
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Actually, he wasn't a bad choice for a villain. He can do the over-the-top thing better than just about anyone else, which works well for a Batman villain. Although I'm sure their decision to use them was partially based on his wide appeal (ooh, let's generate larger box-office numbers!), he did do a good job.
The real problem with everything in the series after Tim Burton left is that the movies just sucked in general.
--Jeremy
Jesus was a liberal
Nobody here was talking about SERVERS. Hell, for all I know, the LOTR Two Towers trailer could be served from a Linux box (the quicktime streaming server runs JUST FINE on linux...)
But, who in their right mind would be trying to view a trailer on a linux server?
The point is, of the subset of all systems in use that are likely to be attempting to view this kind of thing, linux is definitely a minority/marginal/rare OS. That's NOT A BAD THING, but it has to be acknowledged.
Oh, and I think the Ferrari comparison is more than a little weak... You don't have to configure/make/install a Ferrari. Any schmoe with enough cash can drive away in one and be in bliss. To properly use (or enjoy) linux, you need to have much more time than money. Again, not a bad thing, but definitely NOT a Ferrari, either.
It is pitch dark. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
As I recall from the appendices to the Lord of the Rings, the two towers referred to in the name are Orthanc and Minas Tirith, not Orthanc and Barad Dur. It doesn't refer to an alliance, just the fact that the action centers around those two locations.
I find it VASTLY amusing that all the signers of that petition are either:
a: wondering if this is a great troll or an example of Vast Stupidity
b: convinced it's a result of stupidity and railing against everyone else (including the hundreds of like-minded posters) who are obviously all morons.
There is a SINGLE genuine affermative signing in there, and I'm not so sure it's not a joke either.
I call it a good troll. Well done good sir!
Fooz Meister
What can I say? :p
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The Hamburgler helped me right that comment, thanks.
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Yeah, he's a good actor... But I guess it's just a matter of opinion as far as casting him in that role... Less pet-detective, more villan, I say. But the Batman movie franchise had already turned to shit, so it's not nessisarily his fault.
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OC-48 at the ready. I couldn't get the audio to convert, what did you use? I e-mailed you, reply and we'll get this up and running.
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Actualy, have you looked at most of the newest toasters and microwaves? Lot's of them are loaded with asthetic designs all made to make things look better. Look at most new fridges too. Curved handles, shiny black, silver lining etc etc etc. While there is a functionality, there is plenty of style to it as well, and so it is with a mac. The iMacs have colors for style, but the actual design was because a handle on top is the best way to cary an all in one.
The new iMacs look sleek for style, but an easily moveable LCD screen and a neck that can support the wieght of the computer is loads of functionality.
The old iBooks were bubbly for style, but also because they were touted as laptops for students, those damn things don't break when you drop em (I know believe me).
The new ones are compact for lots of functionality.
T Money
World Domination with a plastic spoon since 1984
Slashdot hates Apple so much that there's this section on the left side of your page called "Sections", and the second link seems to be titled "apple". Upon further reading, there seems to be no sections titled "microsoft", or "sun", or even "linux" for that matter. I guess thats just the way we deal with our enemies, huh.
I'm sure if enough people asked for a Linux version of Quicktime, it would be made since they could then possibly make money from it (the technology behind Quicktime makes a lot of money for Apple). The problem is the "enough people" part - we also need a Linux based application that takes advantage of quicktime technology, therefore proving to Apple that its a viable platform to make money on, and not just a hand-me-out.
Sound waves should be free!
We're talking about hollywood here... Hellloooooo? ;)
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if you have broadband and the ability to play video in Apple's favorite format, you can check it out. I'm 0 for 2, so I guess I'll wait.
Uhh... Am I the only one here who finds it hard to believe that CmdrTaco doesn't have broadband access? Is he really using dial-up to run Slashdot?
If you aren't a complete dumbass, and you download the trailer, and watch it in QT, its quite easy to get full screen.
Just go to Edit->Enable Tracks, and turn off all tracks other than Video 1/Sound 1
I agree that all that extra crap is annoying, but its not as if its impossible to watch the thing with true full screen.
Also AFAIK Apple doesn't make these trailers, and they shouldn't be blamed because the LOTR people chose to put that crap on their movie. Most trailers on the Apple site do not have that stuff.
Yes, that's right. I thought Frodo's character developed in the first book, that Gandalf and Sauman didn't get into a ridiculous punch-up, that the Balrog didn't rescue the fellowship from the orcs, that Frodo defied the Nazgul alone at the ford (thus proving that Gandalf's faith was justified) instead of being rescued, that Galadriel made it clear that Frodo was the doom of the elves but that they still would help him, that the Nazgul were dangerous, that no one had time to stop and play balance-the-5000 ton-pilar-of-rock while escaping from Moria, that the watcher in the lake deliberately locked them into Moria, that the Council of Elrond made some sense, that Aragon's sword was reforged from the shards of Narsil, that The Shire didn't have dancing mountains in it, that the travellers actually noticed the stone trolls in the woods, and that the damn story actually worked.
Silly me, I must be damn near illiterate if I thought I saw all those things in the book when the great Peter "Just Get To The Next Fight Scene" Jackson didn't.
TW
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The Lord of the Rings films are quite unique in Hollywood as they are quite faithful to the book. Now take the Bourne Identity: the only part that resembles the book is the main character's name! Hollywood are kings of assuming people are too stupid to know the truth.
The movie is, in fact, the best possible translation of an unfilmable book. Yes, that's right, I said unfilmable and I mean it.
Bakshi put more of the first book into an hour of his aborted attempt than Jackson got in to four hours of his drivel. That does not make me feel that the book, especially with Jackson's budget, is "unfilmable".
The difference is, Bakshi tried and failed, his was a mess but an honest mess, Jackson's mess was dishonest - it didn't even try to adapt the book.
Learn something about film writing you putz.
Well, I'm sure you're William Goldman behind that AC so you won't be surprised to learn that adapting a story is all about compression; it's impossible to translate a piece of fiction of any length onto the screen in a sort of one-to-one way so things get compressed. Characters get merged, events are blurred together or removed etc etc. A screenwriter and director have to choose what to do to get the story told in the time available. There are compensations, of course. Tolkien had to spend pages describing things that can be displayed instantly on the screen.
A good example of this in the film was Rivendell: it was exactly how I imagined it from the book and this was established in a single, 2 or 3 second, long shot which represented a great deal of text from the book. But generally, the compression wins out.
The test of the adaption is what was taken out and what was left in and what new material had to be introduced to cover over the knife marks.
Jackson consistantly removed anything which introduced depth to the characters: Frodo's strength in the face of death, Aragon's destiny, even (unbeliveablely) the fact that Galadriel had one of the great rings on her hand while talking to Frodo!
The material left alone was some dialog, scenery, names and the visual appearance of most characters (almost all of which was done well, very well).
The material added was utter crap: fight scenes, pointless conversations and the silly "super-orc". A ten year old could write better filler.
And yet, Jackson had more than any other adapter has ever had: 4 hours of screen time and the budget of a small African nation to film less than 400 pages of book!
I'm not talking about putting Bombadil back in (it would have been nice in a 12 hr total length to have some of the "unusual" stuff but even in 12 hrs somethings have to go), I'm talking about Bree and Merry's encounter with the Nazgul, or vitally important plot points such as Sam's vision in the Mirror of the events which later do come true in the Shire, or, come to that, Galadriel's gifts to the Fellowship which they have in the boats but which we don't see being given out. But at least we had a long fight scene in Moria to make up for it!
Better still, you might be able to go back to the cinema and enjoy the flawless and utterly brilliant Fellowship of the Ring.
Yes. And I'm the "fan-boy" am I?
It was neither flawless nor brilliant, it was a wasted opportunity. As a film it is mediocre and as an adaptation it stank.
I've mentioned this several times and, I think, gone some length to justify my position as to what was wrong with the film. No one has challenged any of the points I've made. Instead I get called names by AC's and modded as a troll (on, no, my karma's down to 49, what a shame!).
Come, on, then, justify your claim that FotR is "Flawless"; demonstrate your expertise in the art of film making (or even logging-in).
Didn't think so.
TWW
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That was the major major thing that needed to be set up. Anyway.
Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so. --Ford Prefect
It's from Holst's The Planets -- Mars, Bringer of War. Listen to the piece and you will hear it crop quite a lot. It also makes an appearance in several of the Star Wars themes as well. Get a little grounding in "classical" music, it's amusing to see where it turns up.
The bit of music I remember from "Aliens" and the trailers is the particular 8 seconds they always seem to play, and those 8 seconds do not remind me of the piece.
That does explain my confusion over why that music cropped up a lot on trailers, even crossing over to other studios aside from 20th. That was a real head-scratcher until you explained why.
I tried every decent and legal way I could think of to resolve the issue w/the business before I rented the chicken suit
But it becomes clear a two major turning points: the ford and the falls. In both cases Frodo makes important choices on his own. In the film both are skipped (He's rescued at the ford and asks Aragorn's advice at the falls, both greatly weaken his character).
The first film is ABOUT Frodo's choice - not Gandalf's
Nope. It's about getting a fast buck in.
It doesn't matter a damn that Galadriel was holding a ring
It matters because that is the point at which her people's sacrifice becomes clear. Her personal backing away from temptation is one thing, but there is more at stake than the negative of not getting more power; in fact she is going to let Frodo undo the last kingdom of the elves and lead them into myth.
I'm sure that the film covered what you got out of the book as it's pretty clear you didn't understand the depths of the book, but that's your problem.
Try reading it again when you're older.
TWW
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Oh, just go and read the book, will you?
TWW
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Page 384, Galadriel talking about Nenya to Frodo:
The fact is that "doing it for money" means NOTHING when discussing the artistic merit of any movie, book, or other artwork.
Unless that's the only reason.
And of course you don't answer my point about the first movie being about Frodo's choice - because you don't have an answer
It had more to do with going for the train but also this gets off the subject and into debating the book's meaning. It can be argued that the story in the book is indeed about Frodo's choice but I would say that the book is more concerned with duty than choices; and with the loneliness and sacrifice that can come from duty.
This brings us back to your previous comments about Tolkien getting it wrong in the book by not having Aragorn debating about whether he wants his destiny or not. That's fine for a different story but it is a very republican idea which has no place in Aragorn's story which is meant to be an idealistic vision of monarchy. Aragorn is the king, as was his father before him. In this world view the idea of Aragorn resenting his role makes no more sense then him wondering if the sky's the right colour.
In the book this is the reason that there is no real tension from Aragorn to Boromir but only from Boromir to Aragorn: Arogorn is the king and Boromir's opinion is irrelevant, if Boromir was unhappy about Aragorn's height Aragorn would have no more reason to cause friction than he does when he resents Aragorn's kingship. That's not to say Aragorn is insensitive to it, just that there is very little he can or wants to do about it; it's Boromir's problem, not his.
The book is not really about being given or fighting for your destiny, it's about living with it and accepting it and not abusing it.
I secretly liked the film, but got a lot of kudos from poo-pooing it, making me the "Tolkien expert" of my peer group.
My peer group includes several Tolkien experts, one of whom liked the film; I was looking forward to the film and went the first night I could get tickets. As I've said before: as a film in its own right it's fair but as an adaption it was a waste of my and the studio's money. I thought that the background technicians did some great work and the acting was good to perfect but the foreground technicians (screenwriter and director) were clearly hacks doing a job they had no interest in. Perhaps they were just very bad at their jobs and in fact were sincere but I can't believe anyone that had any feeling for their work could be so dull.
God damn that Peter Jackson for not making the film in my head. Now, I can't intelligently explain why the film in my head would be better, but I'll know it when I see it and FotR was not it. So bah to Peter Jackson and more power to me and my wanky commentary on the film's "failings".
This is, obviously, closer to the truth. It is nearly impossible to sit through all the hype and advertising for FotR without imagining what it's going to be like. But I don't think it was an unreasonable to hope for a faithful retelling of the story in its main parts. After all, what's the point of spending all that money on the rights to the book if you don't want to film it? I mean, the alternative is to believe that they bought the rights to the book so that they could trade off the name?!
So, yes, Jackson didn't make the film in my head, which was much better, to me at least. More to the point, he didn't film what was in Tolkien's head which was better than both. As to the fight scenes, the number of fight scenes is the same in the book an the film (at least there are no new ones in the film), but they are greatly lengthened to the point of tedium. The fight in Moria just went on forever, as did the one at the falls. Did we really lose Radagast the Brown and Farmer Maggot, not to mention the Black Breath, in order to watch Legolas riding around on the back of the cave troll? Was Lothlorian cut to ribbons so that we could see Jackson's homage to Predator?
AND, my dad probably is bigger than your dad.
TWW
PS If you really want to continue at any length my email is just the above initials twice with an @ sign between and ".cx" at the end. I used to display it but got too much spam.
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Frodo defied the Nazgul at Rivendell? He made it across the river and then Elrond swept them away - just like in the movie. The small addition of the rescue really was irrelivant to keeping true to the book.
On the other points, some of them were a little silly (rock balancing) but I really only see the loss of the full Elronds council as serious - I personally am waiting to see what gets into the directors cut DVD, I figure some parts from the book are just too much for most people (and despite being quite a fan, I did not miss Tom Bombadil at all!! I don't think it would have made good movie fodder).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
"Come back, come back; to Mordor we will take you"
"Stick it up your invisible arse!" (I don't have the book handy but I think that's what Frodo said).
Good old Dave Sim. Pity about issues 201+.
TWW
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