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High Score

Remember Pong, Raid on Bungeling Bay, or Earthworm Jim? E-games are now both historic and significant, representations of the birth of a culture. They embody a value system, mind-boggling inspiration, common language and experience. And they are finally getting their due. It is unbelievable how far video games have come in the past 30 years, from pinball systems to the console wars raging between Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft, or how important they are culturally. In these games are the stories of the transition from one age to another. Electronic games have spread the psychology of interactivity, re-defined narrative, and are a huge and growing swath of pop culture. They are a gazillion-dollar business, already surpassing films in revenues. They have altered the consciousness and cognitive traits of at least one generation, perhaps two. High Score: the illustrated history of electronic games, by Rusel Demaria and Johnny L. Wilson, is a beautifully organized history of this astounding and little-chronicled phenomenon, from primitive pinballs to the powerful new 3-D entertainment consoles. High Score: the illustrated history of electronic games author Rusel Demaria and Johnny L. Wilson pages 326 publisher McGraw Hill/Osborne rating 8/10 reviewer Jon Katz ISBN 0072224282 summary history of e-games

The authors take us through the making of Space-Invaders and Pac-Man up to Myst and Tomb Raider.

Apart from a chronicle of the early games, High Score focuses not only on the technological wizardry of e-games, but on the business and cultural context in which they appeared: when Sega introduced the Dreamcast, perhaps their best machine at the time, it was almost too late -- they were already up against PlayStation and N64. Even the Tamogochi-like memory card which incubated eggs for pet creatures in Sonic Adventure couldn't quite save them.

The book is succinctly organized. It's actually beautifully presented in a publishing context -- short, well-reported, informative and illustrated chunks. Section One is "Before the Beginning," a tour of the "pre-history" of video games, including an homage to some of the earliest pinball machines and the various breakthroughs like integrated circuits that ultimately made e- games possible.

Section Two focuses on the 70s, and the true birth of the gaming industry, sparked by Ralph Baier and Nolan Bushnell and Pong, one of the first games to become a household word. In the 80s, hit after hit spread through the country's video game arcades (many now closed due to the power of personal computing), and private homes were invaded by Atari, Intellevision and ColecoVision's gaming systems. As the authors point out, the PC and the floppy made it possible for anybody to become a game developer.

In the 90s, write DeMaria and Wilson, the CD-ROM, 3D graphics and broadband revolutionized gaming. "New rivalries" -- and enormous investments from giant companies like Sony and Microsoft -- "create rapidly escalating technologies, immersive realism, and and wide range of crossovers and tie-ins. Developmental budgets skyrocket, interactive games become very big business, and the companies themselves begin to merge and consolidate."

Many gamers are now old enough to appreciate that they have a history. But many people still don't grasp how significant gaming has become. Where else will you read about Dave Perry's launch of Shiny Entertainment in l993, after years of creating games overseas? Perry, who slept in the parking lot at Virgin, won Game of the Year on the Genesis with Global Gladiators.

The authors describe the rise of Tomb Raider and its journey to Hollywood, but that story is well-known. It's the game-by-game, breakthrough-by-breakthrough historical context that makes the book so compelling, and so important. Gaming isn't just about entertainment. It's a common language, value system and way of thinking for millions of younger Americans, something the older and more mainstream culture has yet to appreciate. It's way past time society recognized the astonishing creativity and technology that went into the making of e-games, both in terms of game creators and the games themselves. As you read through High Scores, you get the sense of a history that transcends entertainment. What you see is the birth of a culture. This book does, and in the most readable way imaginable. It's tough to imagine anybody under 40 who reads this site - gamer or not -- who wouldn't love it.

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244 comments

  1. They are a gazillion-dollar business by RobPiano · · Score: 3, Funny

    I believe that's a technical term.

    1. Re:They are a gazillion-dollar business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad they force you to steal old games of the Net, instead of letting you buy them...

      http://tony.svanstrom.org/archives/000022.html

    2. Re:They are a gazillion-dollar business by Cyclone66 · · Score: 1

      damn you I was going to make that exact same comment, word for word!

    3. Re:They are a gazillion-dollar business by Joel+Ironstone · · Score: 1

      Jesus christ you must me be high. That made no sense whatsoever

  2. Please by British · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please don't call it "e-games". Call them video games or electronic games. "E-games" makes it sound like marketing buzzword speak. You are not Spike Lee. Stop makin' up new words!

    1. Re:Please by ideonode · · Score: 1

      Another gripe that I have is referring to "interactive games". All games are interactive - please give me an example of one that isn't...

    2. Re:Please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      All games are interactive - please give me an example of one that isn't...
      I think the closest you can come to a non-interactive game is Golf.
    3. Re:Please by garett_spencley · · Score: 2

      Another gripe that I have is referring to "interactive games". All games are interactive - please give me an example of one that isn't...

      Solitaire (with a real deck of cards)...

      --
      Garett

    4. Re:Please by MisterBlister · · Score: 2
      Another gripe that I have is referring to "interactive games". All games are interactive - please give me an example of one that isn't...

      Well all the Final Fantasy games since FF8 and Metal Gear Solid 2 come pretty close...

    5. Re:Please by sdjunky · · Score: 4, Funny

      They are called E-Games due to the paradigm shift of an after event market. This facilitates the stickiness of integrated entertainment in a residential sense

      Better?

    6. Re:Please by jacoberrol · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      +1 funny

    7. Re:Please by Ashtangi · · Score: 1
      Umm I suppose that the cards dont really interact per say. But I don't think they need to in order to be considered interactive. The fact that the player is interacting with a deck of cards I believe would make solitare interactive. From dictionary.com:

      2: capable of acting on or influencing each other

      The state of the cards influences the player, who then changes the state of the cards, which then in turn influence the player. I think that the term game implies some sort of interaction.

  3. Gazillion? by Kraegar · · Score: 2

    Is that something from Katz, or from the book? I'd have a hard time drawing insight from a source that must exaggerate the multi-billion dollor gaming industry by using such a childish word.

    1. Re:Gazillion? by psycht · · Score: 1

      well if it were in the book, it would have to be quoted.

  4. Hey Jon.. by Pave+Low · · Score: 1
    Is Junis from Afghanistan been playing any video games on his Commodore 64?

    Last time you wrote about him, he was watching Divx movies on it. I'm sure he's excited about Warcraft 3.

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    SIG:Slashdot: indymedia for nerds.
  5. Dreamcast? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I hope it is the reviewer who confused the Dreamcast and the Saturn, and not the author of the book...

    1. Re:Dreamcast? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at who the reviewer is. Yup, there's your answer.

  6. Game Over by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad some people have no sense of humor. (And, for the records, high scores are on topic. That's the friggin topic!)

  7. Earth Worm Jim by PsychoKiller · · Score: 1

    My favourite part of EWJ was in the manual where they explained that Earth Worm Jim was abbreviated as EWJ, but don't ever say 'EWJ' out loud because that takes too long.

    1. Re:Earth Worm Jim by PDG · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think EWJ was one of the most 'unique' and creative games made in years.

      I mean c'mon--a superhero worm, an level in 'heck' with elevator music, a puppy dog that turns into a monster.

      It was just so perverse that it immediately became fantastic

      (and I still have vivid memories of literally holding my breath while doing the underwater bubble scenes)

      --
      "Where is my mind?"
    2. Re:Earth Worm Jim by CaffeineAddict2001 · · Score: 2

      Way out in the water, see it swimmin.

    3. Re:Earth Worm Jim by TheDick · · Score: 1

      Frank Black would be turning in his grave if he could.

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    4. Re:Earth Worm Jim by ninkendo84 · · Score: 1

      Actually, the words were "Hard difficulty is for you experienced players who are so obsessed with earth worm jim that you call him EWJ, even though it's more syllables than Earth Worm Jim"

      It's one of those childhood memories I guess

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      make: don't know how to make love. Stop
  8. I loved video games by stoolpigeon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    when I was a kid. I read video game magazines and hung out at the arcade or circle K a lot. (just one game at circle k but that let you get in lots of practice)

    I don't know that I would call it a culture. I'd be more comfortable w/subculture.

    Now that I have kids and a job I don't play much. When I do it is old games- if I'm at home I pull out my Sega Genesis and play Sonic or Dune.

    If I'm feeling really crazy I head over to Castles and Coasters. Downstairs the arcade is all the latest games. Upstairs is where they put all the old machines. On a friday or saturday night you'll find 10 or 15 guys who are all 30 something years old (like me) up there playing Galaga, Tempest, Centipede, Red Baron, etc.

    .

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    It's hard to believe that's how Micronians are made. Why don't we see it right now by having you both kiss one another?
    1. Re:I loved video games by ben_ · · Score: 1

      On a friday or saturday night you'll find 10 or 15 guys who are all 30 something years old (like me) up there playing Galaga, Tempest, Centipede, Red Baron, etc.

      And, erm, doesn't that say it all? That's the best thing you have to do with your weekend nights: go out and play old video games?

      May I suggest that you develop an interest in the opposite sex (or even your own, whatever)...

      sheesh
      ben_

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      ben_ the technologist and platform agnostic
  9. iD software. Hello! by qurob · · Score: 2, Interesting


    No mention of the company who helped define the 3D shooter plauge we call the games market today?

    1. Re:iD software. Hello! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      What? There's a three page spread toward the back of the book all about them. There's a picture of John Romero at his desk smiling.

      Look up 'id' in the index.

  10. Decent Price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Only $17.49 on Amazon. I was worried about the price, given that it's an "illustrated history"... books like that tend to be expensive.

    However, it's a paperback. Hm.

  11. Value system? by Gannoc · · Score: 5, Funny
    Remember Pong...They embody a value system, mind-boggling inspiration, common language and experience.

    Yes, Pong's value systems have influenced an entire generation of youth. Whenever i'm faced with a really tough problem in my life, I sit down and think "What would Pong do?"

    Then, I pick up something and throw it as hard as I can. Sometimes I angle it off the wall. My problem tends to be solved one way or the other.

    Christ Katz, can't you ever have a SMALL point? Can't you ever just say "This is a pretty good book about video games, I recommend it."?

    No, with you it has to be "Video games have had more effect on the evolution of mankind than oxygen. This book is so good, that if you hold it and make a wish, it will come true. Columbine."

    Bah.

    1. Re:Value system? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yes, Pong's value systems have influenced an entire generation of youth. Whenever i'm faced with a really tough problem in my life, I sit down and think "What would Pong do?"

      Bahahahahaha... I want a T-Shirt with that on it. WWPD?

    2. Re:Value system? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Would you consider buying a book if all you heard about it was Katz saying "It's a good book."

    3. Re:Value system? by Fascist+Christ · · Score: 1

      Video games have had more effect on the evolution of mankind than oxygen.... Columbine.

      Absolutely! When I was in high school, I kept searching the halls for a secret room that holds the BFG9000. Alas, it was too well hidden, and I was stuck with a stinking plasma gun.

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    4. Re:Value system? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's in the cafeteria, next to the large trash cans. You can't miss it.

    5. Re:Value system? by Entropy248 · · Score: 1

      Personally, I look to Street Fighter as my inspiration. I like shouting "HaduuuKen" and shooting fireballs at people.

      Tetris is also a great source of moral wisdom. There's nothing like dropping boxes on people's heads...

    6. Re:Value system? by Iffy+Bonzoolie · · Score: 1

      Well, he was talking about the spectrum of video games - it's unfortunate that he cited Pong as an example right before mentioning value systems, but it's still true... consider one of the most popular RPG series of all time: Ultima. The game practically established a religion. When I was a little kid, *I* wanted to embody the eight virtues. I guess I still do, to some degree.

      -If

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      Run a pencil-and-paper RPG campaign with your far-off friends: Gametable!
    7. Re:Value system? by AKA+da+JET · · Score: 1

      Well, I guess you could try selling them...

    8. Re:Value system? by Erik+Fish · · Score: 2

      Amen to that! Years of Katz blather accurately summarized by one short, simple Slashdot post. You are my hero.

  12. What about Rogue? by prestomation · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and Nethack, and Angband, and Adom, and all the other clones of Rogue? Those are some of the best games ever! It's nearly impossible to beat, and it randomly generated levels so you never got bored. Do they mention rogue at all in the book?

    1. Re:What about Rogue? by echucker · · Score: 1

      Angband... been playing it every day in my cube after I finish lunch. Even though I've been through countless characters, and never been down past 2000', it never really gets old.

      For those of you who have never tried Angband, check out Thangorodrim.

  13. games and stuff by theeidolon · · Score: 1

    does it mention berserk the first game ever to kill someone, i mean thats a vital part of video game history. -eidolon

    1. Re:games and stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you only killed Robots in Berzerk (unless you yoursef get killed)

    2. Re:games and stuff by theeidolon · · Score: 1

      no, someone actually died playing this game -eidolon

    3. Re:games and stuff by fishbowl · · Score: 2

      > no, someone actually died playing this game

      Who, where, what was the cause of death, the date?

      Please provide some reference to a credible news story or other source.

      Was it an electrocution? I wonder how many pinball/jukebox/arcade service people have been electrocuted by entertainment devices?

      You've trotted out a sensational story without even attempting to corroborate it.

      This looks like a promising lead.
      http://groups.google.com/groups?q=video+gam e+death &hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&selm=anews.Aihps3.210 &rnum=8

      Only in this story, the cause of death was a heart condition, and he died while playing Berserk. I don't think that implicates the game or the arcade, and to suggest otherwise would be quite irresponsible, if not libelous.

      "Intruder Alert! Get the Humanoid!"

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      -fb Everything not expressly forbidden is now mandatory.
  14. Mistakes... by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... when Sega introduced the Dreamcast, perhaps their best machine at the time, it was almost too late -- they were already up against PlayStation and N64.

    The Dreamcast was Sega's next-gen effort at the time - it was the Saturn that was originally meant to compete with the N64 and PSX. The Dreamcast was intended to compete with the new systems on the horizon by getting a jump - this is what they did quite successfully with the sega genesis - filled the next gen niche with adequate hardware.

    In the 80s, hit after hit spread through the country's video game arcades (many now closed due to the power of personal computing), and private homes were invaded by Atari, Intellevision and ColecoVision's gaming systems.

    I hope "personal computing" means "consoles" in this context, because PC gaming is a small fry compared to consoles and would have little effect on arcades. Arcades will never be completely replaced - playing a mech game in a big simulated cockpit - you can't do it at home (well, maybe you can, but I am not that rich :)

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    Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
    1. Re:Mistakes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They did get a jump - I still can't swing a dead cat without hitting someone who owns a DC. It was, and still is, a good, solid system with quite a few quality titles.

      The problem is Sega's always been into the entire seppuku thing. They killed off everything since the Genesis before their respective times.

      The Genesis, it was brilliant. Take quality hardware, put it out *now*. By the time your competitor catches up, everyone already has one of your consoles and you're about to release the next barrage. Kinda doesn't work when you scream nonsensical phrases and jab a wakizashi through your chest though. :p

      As for arcades, heh, I'll take my computer over a console any day. You can't pilot an Atlas with some dinky little controller.

    2. Re:Mistakes... by IIRCAFAIKIANAL · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I wasn't bashing DC (although I hear that the quality of the discs are really bad - they literally fall apart - I had one brand of cdr do that to me one time, pissed me right off)

      As for arcades, heh, I'll take my computer over a console any day. You can't pilot an Atlas with some dinky little controller.

      You haven't seen that XBOX controller, have you? :)

      (i think it's for xbox, correct me if i'm wrong)

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      Robots are everywhere, and they eat old people's medicine for fuel.
    3. Re:Mistakes... by DroningDromedary · · Score: 1

      I hope "personal computing" means "consoles" in this context, because PC gaming is a small fry compared to consoles and would have little effect on arcades.

      You've actually hit on absolutely the worst aspect of this book here. The coverage of console games is abysmal. You'd have thought that the PSX, the machine that's sold more games to more people than any other, would get more than a few column inches in a book like this, or that games companies like Sega and Nintendo would warrant pages upon pages about their history and games, but no...

      Instead there are chapters upon boring chapters about almost exclusively American PC game companies. So not only are console games given short shrift, but Japanese and European companies are almost completely left out in the cold. Most of the stuff about more recent consoles consists solely of a few screenshots stuffed at the back of the book, and a meagre few paragraphs about how the PS2 is the future of gaming, or some such...

      If you want a book about the history of American PC games, then I guess you'll love this book. It's a detailed, and very readable, history. But if you're a console gamer (especially someone who's only really started gaming in the '90s), then you'll find the majority of this book to be rather boring and irrelevant.

  15. Uh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Playstation and N64? Try the Saturn.

    The DC was the first strike in the 'next gen' consoles. DC? Gamecube/PS2/X-Box equivalent. Or, perhaps not. You see, Sega's always had a tendency to strike first. They always broke the ground, and everyone else sat around with their thumbs up their arses, eventually only coming out on top due to releasing systems much later and thus having better hardware availible.

    I won't bother detailing the idiocy of Sega's business tactics. *chuckle* "Gee, Bobjiro, ya think we maybe shoulda advertised even a little bit?!"

  16. apparently... by argStyopa · · Score: 5, Funny

    "gazillion-dollar business" = ~$7 billion

    And I'll second the "NO" vote on the term 'e-games'. E-gad.

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    -Styopa
    1. Re:apparently... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ...already surpassing films in revenues...

      This is a myth. The games industry's total gross receipts passed the film industry's annual north american box office take a few years back, but we've got a couple of $100 billions to make to even get close to the, er, gazillions (if you'll pardon the clumsy phrase ;) the film industry pulls in revenue across the board.

      That didn't stop gamers from jumping up and down yelling, 'We're bigger than the film industry! We're bigger than the film industry!' This was, of course, in the same decade that Titanic took in over $2 billion for one film. *sigh*

  17. I'd like to post something witty... by LordYUK · · Score: 1

    ...but since gaming dulls the thought process in your brain and makes you prone to anger I HAVE TO GO BASH SOMETHING NOW!!! GRRRR!!!!

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    This is my sig. Its pathetic.
  18. dude, shut up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's games! Just like any other game. Someone put tape over JK's mouth or superglue his fingers together.

  19. While you are at it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Great book, mainly for some of the wonderful pictures of early design documents, photographs and other archival material.

    For a better history, I reocmmend Steven L. Kent's "The Ultimate History of Video Games". While it has almost no pictures, it makes up for it by being a much more detailed history based on interviews with the people behind the industry.

  20. Open letter to wife: by El_Smack · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey, I'm not wasting money and space collecting Atari 2600's and full size arcade games, I am preserving "a value system, mind-boggling inspiration, common language and experience."!

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    There are 01 kinds of cars in the world. The General Lee, and everything else.
    1. Re:Open letter to wife: by garcia · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      "Honey, I didn't marry Jon Katz. If you love him so much, you fuck him."

    2. Re:Open letter to wife: by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      What? That was funny!

      You didn't mod him down for saying "fuck" did you?

  21. Always wondered by totallygeek · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Remember the Pac-Man move where you could hide indefinately and the ghosts couldn't get you. Was this "figured out", or is this leaked from the manufacturer? I mean, like the moves for Pac-Man where you could play and never die and barely even look at the screen -- who figured that out, and wrote down, video-taped or remembered the moves.

    And, Pac-Man isn't the only game like this. Look at all the "secret moves" in games. Does someone figure out you can do up-up-down-down-left-right-left-right-select-start on Contra, or is that reverse engineered or leaked? Or, how you can flip-out Galaga to have FF ships. Or, how you can make a ghost Guile on Street Fighter.

    Anyone?

    1. Re:Always wondered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd say some are probably discovered at random.

      But for many codes, they're probably leaked by the publisher. Why?

      Why not? Codes, man! Everyone whispers them in the dark, and then goes to buy and/or toss quarters at your game when they first hear of them!

      Brilliant marketing. :)

    2. Re:Always wondered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe the Contra code was Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right-B-A...

      Wasn't it?

      It was modified for other games eventually, I think, but IIRC the first time Konami used that code was with Contra. In Gradius it gave you a lot of power-ups, pause the game and enter the code. A sequel to Gradius (can't remember the name) would blow up your ship if you tried it. :)

    3. Re:Always wondered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And, Pac-Man isn't the only game like this. Look at all the "secret moves" in games. Does someone figure out you can do up-up-down-down-left-right-left-right-select-start on Contra, or is that reverse engineered or leaked? Or, how you can flip-out Galaga to have FF ships. Or, how you can make a ghost Guile on Street Fighter

      I would have to put my money on leaked. It doesn't make a difference to the manufacturer or the distributor if the general population knows those codes. I've even seen Nintendo power publish them.

    4. Re:Always wondered by Jacer · · Score: 1

      actually it was up up down down left right left right ab ab start select start if you wanted two players

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    5. Re:Always wondered by digerata · · Score: 1
      Ahh, the Konami Kode...

      But I believe it was Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, B, A, Select, Start.

      Now that's common language and exprience that I will never forget.

      Its also the combination on my gym locker.

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      1;
    6. Re:Always wondered by phish · · Score: 1

      My guess is most of what we consider "cheats" in games are used by QA in the testing of the game.

      Think about it, if you're the QA guy working on testing the Nth level of a game, would you like to play through the whole game every time? :)

    7. Re:Always wondered by BigJimSlade · · Score: 2

      I believe the Contra code was Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right-B-A...

      Wasn't it?


      Maybe it would help you if you had it on a t-shirt? No? Ok, here's all the codes for Contra. As if you cared :)

    8. Re:Always wondered by BigJimSlade · · Score: 2

      Remember the Pac-Man move where you could hide indefinately and the ghosts couldn't get you

      Yes, yes I do.

    9. Re:Always wondered by redtoade · · Score: 1

      Is it just me, or does just looking at the colors of a Pac-Man screen make everyone happy?

      Something about that bright neon blue on a black background with a peperring of little white dots...

    10. Re:Always wondered by doomicon · · Score: 1

      Yea, I remember that move.. I also remember playing Space Invaders on my 2600 for 14 hours straight, trying to top the neighborhood record of consecutive "flips"... only to be enlightened by my mother that the neighborhood kids were obviously lying.

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      Awesome!
    11. Re:Always wondered by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      Civilization 1.0 had a full blown QA testing mode built in. That was so much fun as a kid!

      Especially in the days of limited online interaction and no real level editors, it was great to unmask the other civilizations and watch things happen.

      Funny, when I used cheat mode on Civ 2 to reveal the map, as much as I loved the game, watching the other Civs build their starting cities just pissed me off at poor AI. I must have grown cynical with age, as the civ 1 AI was probably worse.

    12. Re:Always wondered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cute music, the sound effects, the smell of smoke in the arcade. Ahh, sweet nostalgia.

    13. Re:Always wondered by Orangedog_on_crack · · Score: 2
      I'll go out on a limb and say that this one was "figured-out" by some people who played the game. Ye Gods! We were obsessive about those games. The famous "pattern" was a little on the complex side for the 80's, but it's nothing that couldn't be worked out with enough quarters.

      [now, with my pants pulled up to my chest and as I shake my tee-handle cane at the kids...] "You young punks! I was the 9th key Shaolin master of PAC-MAN! In my day, I dominated the arcade. I'd walk in with $2 in quarters and by the time I left, my initials were at the top of all those machines! I was the top-dog, damnit!"

      Sorry, had to get that out of my system. My teenage daughter got too embarrassed when I did that routine at Gameworks....I can't imagine why...

    14. Re:Always wondered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, actually I remember it as :
      up up down down left right left right b a select start. I'm pretty DAMN sure that's right.

  22. Sega... by i64X · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Sega always cought a bum rap... I hope the author of this book didn't confuse the timing of the Dreamcast like it implies in this article. The Dreamcast wasn't pitted up against the N64 and the PlayStation, it was released WAY after that.... Most people get Sega's timing WAY wrong because they were so far ahead of the game.

    People compare the Sega Genesis to the Super NES. The Genesis was released WAY before the SNES was, and was pitted against the NES for sales, not the SNES. Sega had 16-bit first, and fastest.

    The SATURN was set to battle against the PSX and the N64, not the Dreamcast! They were all released about the same time (with the exception of the N64, because we all know how Nintendo likes to promise things on a certain date and deliver them a couple years later...) The Saturn failed miserably against the other two because for one, it was $399 at launch, and two it was so hard to program for. The only good games for Saturn came from AM2... Sega's in-house developer... with titles like Virtua Fighter 2, Sega Rally Champoinship, and Daytona USA 2.

    The Dreamcast was released years after the PSX and N64, and was the first 128-bit console on the market.... WAY before PS2 or GameCube. The Dreamcast was an innovative console and graphics- and sound- wise obviously ate the PSX and the N64. If the Dreamcast would have been released at the same time as the N64 and the PSX, Sony's PSX would have flopped worse at the time than XBOX is right now.

    Sega had always been my favorite, and always had the most amazing stuff out first... but let's forget the massive amount of failures that they also released besides the Saturn... namely Sega CD (although it was one of the first CD systems), Sega CDX, Mars 32X, and the Master System II. :)

    1. Re:Sega... by stoolpigeon · · Score: 1

      I love my Genesis. I keep it sitting on top of my DVD player. I don't play it all the time and I don't own a ton of games but I really like the few that I own and if I suddenly find myself w/an hour to relax- it beats watching the pablum that passes for television lately.

      SEGA Rocks!

      .

      --
      It's hard to believe that's how Micronians are made. Why don't we see it right now by having you both kiss one another?
    2. Re:Sega... by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      FEATURE SEGA S-NES

      Process 68000 65816 Custom
      Speed 7.6 MHz 3.6 MHz
      Colors 512 32768
      On Screen 64 256
      Resolution 320 x 224 512 x 448
      Sprites 80 128
      Size 32 x 64 64 x 64
      Sound 10 Channels 8 Channels
      Feature Scaling & Rotation

      Bah, perhaps they had a faster processor and were there first, but the SNES was CLEARLY the better machine.

    3. Re:Sega... by i64X · · Score: 0

      This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about... you can't compare the SNES to the Genesis, because Nintendo had several YEARS to improve on the technology. Comparing the Genesis to the SNES is like comparing a Pentium II 350Mhz PC to a Pentium III 700Mhz machine that was released a few years later... ofcourse the PIII is going to be superior... 3 years is a LONG time to improve on technology.

      Apples and oranges.

  23. Rogue? by eyepeepackets · · Score: 1

    No mention of Rogue? *boggle* If the subject is computer games and they start with pong and not Rogue then they're missing a big chunk of history.

    Would this be a chunking vulnerability? I donno.

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    Everything in the Universe sucks: It's the law!
  24. Verbosity... e-Spiraling... out of... i-Control! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Jesus, Jon, most of the articles Slashdot gets are as long as your abstracts! Repeat after me:

    "Brevity is a virtue."

    "I will not coin new e-Buzzwords or i-Acronyms."

    "I will not preach to the choir."

    Well, I can always hope, can't I?

  25. where is gaming going next? by peteshaw · · Score: 5, Insightful
    What I wonder is how modern gaming will manage to integrate a social aspect. Back in the 80's the arcades were someplace you would go, and spend your money, and hang out. I loved the old games too. I remember being in awe of these two 30 something guys who mastered missile command and sould play it until they flipped the score over a million.

    Now, I play those same games on MAME or on arcade games in my basement (I have 4 games and a pin) and I feel like a loser. I have kids and a family, and don't get out a lot, but I miss being able to see high scores of people you knew.

    Now, everybody plays games on consoles in their living room. If you get a high score, its like, so what. Sure, there is online gaming, but that scales out too big, then you don't know anyone.

    What gaming needs is the equivalent of a bowling alley. Someplace to go be online, play games, hang out, drink beer, meet girls. Wired this month had a great article on how urban Korean has spawned a series of gaming parlor's where people would go an dplay warcraft or whatever in a social environment.

    Until we can integrate gaming into the natural behaviour patterns of man, something will be missing. Until then, I am very sorry, but were just a bunch of losers playing video games in our living rooms.

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    www.avacal.com -- the home page of pete shaw
    1. Re:where is gaming going next? by ronfar · · Score: 1
      Well, at the Ybor City Gameworks (Tampa Bay) they have a ladies night every Thursday (ladies play free on Thursdays and they have other stuff.) Oh, and they have a full bar.

      Of course, they aren't my type of arcade games, too modern. But at least they have one Capcom vs. SNK machine for old guys like me, and a few older games ...

      Rutgers used to have a killer arcade, I wonder if they still do? That was back when you had to stand in line for Street Fighter II.

      --
      All the creatures will die, And all the things will be broken. That's the law of samurai. (Jubai, 1605)
    2. Re:where is gaming going next? by Telastyn · · Score: 2

      My workplace has a pinball machine and dreamcast as a fixture. It's always impressive to see the pinball high scores come up with CEO xx,xxx,xxx every so often.

      I heard of a few places in SFbay like the gaming parlors. Pretty much a dance club that's back room is a lan center.

    3. Re:where is gaming going next? by chill182 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I completely agree. Although it is still fun to go to arcades. Dance Dance Revolution can sometimes gather a crowd and brings that social aspect back.

      Kids (and when I say kids I mean teenagers, even though I'm 22 they seem like a completely different generation) have no concept of a high score. They can't understand a game that is impossible to complete.

      I agree that there needs to be more social places to play video games (though I really like GameWorks). But first someone needs to build computers that can standup to a bar atmosphere.

      As for home consoles there are some great party games: You don't know jack for PS1, Mario Party for N64, Warlords for Atari 2600.

    4. Re:where is gaming going next? by CaseyB · · Score: 2
      Now, everybody plays games on consoles in their living room. If you get a high score, its like, so what. Sure, there is online gaming, but that scales out too big, then you don't know anyone.

      Not at all. That's like saying that playing games in all the arcades in the world scales out too big. You're not in one room with 100,000 players at once. Once you get into an online game, you'll find your peers through realm, guild, profession, allegiance, or whatever the game has built in. The best online games have thought about the problem finding peers/friends, and it's part of the architecture. Ingame voice is only a year or two away, and it'll make things a little more personal.

      Wired this month had a great article on how urban Korean has spawned a series of gaming parlor's where people would go and play warcraft or whatever in a social environment.

      Get out much? There are "Counterstrike Parlors" in every major city.

    5. Re:where is gaming going next? by lobiusmoop · · Score: 0

      sheesh. 2 words. Lan Party.

      --
      "I bless every day that I continue to live, for every day is pure profit."
    6. Re:where is gaming going next? by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      I don't know about all the social jazz.. i mean, I made friend on everquest via 2,500 person servers and A LOT of time spent.

      Yahoo pool though, put 50,000 people together, and you never see the same one again.

      as for high scores (which i still love) there is www.twingalaxies.com and they are good anal high score geeks properly fitted to the task of recordkeeping.

    7. Re:where is gaming going next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The answer: Online gaming in persistent worlds. Try Final Fantasy XI.

  26. Note: Only illustrated history, not definitive by Torgo's+Pizza · · Score: 5, Informative
    I was talking to John Romero about this book last week (turns out that he provided a lot of the pictures) and we both agree this is a fantastic book to get your hands on. While High Score provides lots of glossy pictures, including five or six covers of Akalabeth (minus the ziplock bag), High Score doesn't cover the entire history of gaming. It's a great starting point for researching a fantastic industry.

    I highly recommend looking also at Phoenix: The Rise and Fall of Video Games which covers the history of console games more completely. There's also Game Over which details the history of Nintendo from a playing card company to the giant it became in the early 90's. There are others, but more are needed.

    The history of video games is sorely underreported and under appreciated. Already many electronic games are disappearing as hardware and platforms become unavailable. The Abandonware scene is alive and well, but quietly our gaming history is disappearing. I encourage all Slashdot readers to read up on your gaming history and try to preserve a great and thriving culture.

    1. Re:Note: Only illustrated history, not definitive by BigJimSlade · · Score: 2

      The history of video games is sorely underreported and under appreciated. Already many electronic games are disappearing as hardware and platforms become unavailable. The Abandonware scene is alive and well, but quietly our gaming history is disappearing. I encourage all Slashdot readers to read up on your gaming history and try to preserve a great and thriving culture.

      I have to agree with this. I'm a big fan of what "rom-dumping" projects are doing, even if most people consider them to be piracy in the short term. Culture or sub-culture, it's part of who most of us (on /. anyway) are. Maybe not to the grandoise scale that Katz makes it out to be, but none the less important to document.

      I would like to see a similar book on the history of video games in Japan. It may seem to overlap a fair amount, but it is quite different. For instance the dominant system in Japan at the end of the 80's was the PC Engine (TurboGrafx-16 in the States), not the NES as it was over here. Also, the types of games that are popular in Japan are vastly different than in the US. Look through the screenshots of arcade games supported by MAME and try to count how man Mahjong games came out in Japanese arcades!

      Also, for some great pictures of games from the late '70s to early '80s, check out Supercade (no, I am not affiliated with ThinkGeek.com -- buy it from where ever the hell you want!). Published by MIT Press, this book gets some of the facts wrong, but it's worth picking up just for the screenshots and pictures.

  27. Sounds like an interesting book by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 4, Funny

    But is it filled with the same sort of in-your-face 'look this is important because it compleatly re-defined our culture' that the review is? Or is it a good text that objectivly outlines the history and development of video games that the modern historian would find interesting and perhaps as a source text for future historians after the real cultural impact of video games has been discovered?

    If it's the former, I would'nt want to read it. Speculitive works on the cultural attributes of technologies that are still emerging are typically usless. It would be like writing a book in 1909 on the cultural impact of the automobile.

    Somehow I suspect this is more of the reviewer inserting his own 'golly gee look how technology is changing our lives' world view... but you never know.

    --
    The Internet is generally stupid
    1. Re:Sounds like an interesting book by ronfar · · Score: 1
      Somehow I suspect this is more of the reviewer inserting his own 'golly gee look how technology is changing our lives' world view... but you never know.
      Well, note that it is a John Katz review. He's famous for articles in which he injects the whole "this changed world wide culture, etc." even if he's talking about pocket lint.
      --
      All the creatures will die, And all the things will be broken. That's the law of samurai. (Jubai, 1605)
  28. Wow! by Thomas+M+Hughes · · Score: 2

    They are a gazillion-dollar business, already surpassing films in revenues.

    A Gazillion-dollar business? Is this fancy new research techniques where you use child like number references instead of looking up the value yourself? "Multi-Billion" I would have bought. I even would have bought "Trillion." "Gazillion" seems a bit over the top.

  29. Its time now! by m4g02 · · Score: 0

    Now its time to be proud!!! Im proud (very proud) of many things, i played Final Fantasy 1 in the NES when it was brand new, same with Ultima for the PC and NES, im proud to spend hours (as a child) trying to read a Final Fantasy 2 dialog (i didnt know english back then... not like i know it very welll now =P). IM PROUD!!! IM PROUD!!! IM VERY PROUD!!! Im proud i played pacman, arknoid and defender in the chips!!! and proud that i got the first intellivision!!!, but what im not proud of, not at all, is of born after pong was realased... I will never forgive me... TIME to PAYBACK!!!, AMO her i go to play 20 hours a day!!! (I need to sleep)

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    Sigs are for morons... Wait a minute...
  30. Does anyone remember...? by A+Big+Gnu+Thrush · · Score: 2
    Does anyone remember a robot game from the 1980's that taught hexadecimal and binary math? I think it was published by Broderbund, but I could be wrong. I read a review of it in Byte -- also had a review of Where in the World in Carmen San Diego on the same page. I thought it was a cool idea. The reviewer, IIRC, believed the game was fun enough that children would play it in spite of the educational overtones.

    Anyone?

    1. Re:Does anyone remember...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I seem to remember a game like this for the c64 also... You started out as robot type 001, and you had to roam around this screen filled with other robots with different model numbers, like 153, 074, 655, etc... and then when you encountered one you had to fight, but it was like some sort of "hacking" , and it involved math of some sort. You only had a certain number of "modules" or something, and the better the robot, the more of these modules it had, so the more "attacks" it had so to speak.. Aww man it was the coolest. I played it at a friends house but just as I was getting to understand it, he moved away and I never managed to remember the name... :( anyone knows it ? email me at unixb0y at hushmail dot calm.

      thanks,

    2. Re:Does anyone remember...? by Ashyukun · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if it's the same game, but I remember a game I had for my Color Computer that involved robots and basic circuit design where you had to 'wire' robots to solve puzzles... I can't remember what it's called anymore :/

    3. Re:Does anyone remember...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I seem to remember a game like this for the c64 also... You started out as robot type 001, and you had to roam around this screen filled with other robots with different model numbers, like 153, 074, 655, etc...

      Paradroid by Andrew Braybrook. One of the greatest games of all time IMO.

    4. Re:Does anyone remember...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, I think you might be right.. That does sound familiar!!! Paradroid.. And you remember the author's name too!?! wow. Paul is that you?

    5. Re:Does anyone remember...? by fishbowl · · Score: 2

      Paradroid.

      It's worth playing now. It runs really well on VICE, and if I could, I would make a C64 ROM cartridge of it.

      I wish there was a pc version; and I'd even like to see an updated take on the game...

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      -fb Everything not expressly forbidden is now mandatory.
  31. R.O.B.B.?!?!?! by Drunken_Jackass · · Score: 1

    I loved Raid on Bungeling Bay on the C64!!!

    Does anyone know if there's a flash version somewhere, or anything outside of a C64 emulator that is playable?

    Brings me back...

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    There are 01 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary, and me.
    1. Re:R.O.B.B.?!?!?! by fishbowl · · Score: 2

      > I loved Raid on Bungeling Bay on the C64!!!

      The emulators really aren't bad at all; try vice.

      Since reading your post, I've installed and played it on the Vice that comes with debian. Can't wait to get home and run it on a real breadbox; thanks!!

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      -fb Everything not expressly forbidden is now mandatory.
  32. Raid on Bungeling Bay by BrookHarty · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is a java port of Raid on Bungeling Bay. I spent many hours playing this on the c64, one of my favorite c64 games. Also played Trolls and Tribulations. quite a bit. (When I was much younger, lol)

    You really know its a small world, when your neighbors invent Myst. Video games has been part of my culture here in the Pacific Northwest, I have made many friends who are either directors of large game companies, owners, and some who are just hard core programers and gfx artists. Funny, most of my friends growing up are in the tech field, support, sys-admins, or programmers. Dont even get them started on the "Old Days" of computers, everything from vic-20s, tsr80s, apples2e/2gs converstations...

    left, right, left, right, a, b, start

  33. Who better to write this review... by SkyLeach · · Score: 1, Troll

    than the l337 |v|4Z73|2 himself, John Katz...

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    My $0.02 will always be worth more than your â0.02, so :-p
  34. We got it. Its the "net." by mekkab · · Score: 2

    Aren't there clans that combat on the net?!

    Can't the PS2 via TONY HAWK ]I[ internet up and play other consoles?

    At the mall down the street they have a bunch of machines networked and when I'm there when the kids are, thats where they're playing.

    When you have a high concentration of young'ins (i.e. college dorm) you get them crowding around arcade games, consoles in rooms, heck, even crowded around my mac going head to head on a tron light-cycles ripoff (called nort!). When you get older, and have a house, and move out, etc. etc. networking is where its at.

    We are not losers playing video games by ourselves! We are losers playing videogames with other losers!

    --
    In the future, I would want to not be isolated from my friends in the Space Station.
  35. E-nough is *enough*! by BlackHawk · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I usually take a pretty dim view of people who assault one of Katz' articles on the basis of it being a Katz article. But the longer I'm a reader of Slashdot in general, and of Katz' writings, the less charitable I become. Until I finally reach the boil-over point, which occured today.

    First, I'll reiterate the call against the use of the term e-game. E-nough, thank you.

    Second, I want to address this tendency that Katz has to assume that those of us who've been out of high school more than 5 years are clueless cretins totally out of touch with the current progress of (so-called) culture in this country. Here's a clue for you, Katz: I'm 38, I remember all too well what high school was like, and I've managed to survive quite nicely, thanks. I was not a member of the oppressed fringe that you clearly identify so well with, and I do not think that that oppressed fringe is going to have any greater impact on our society than any previous oppressed fringe did. Which is to say that yes, some of the fringe elements have had enormous impact, some have eaten a bullet before they turned 21, and the vast majority will join the great consumer-base that is the foundation of American society and culture. I know, it ain't pretty, but there it is. Now get off your high-horse and recognize that your 'audience' here on Slashdot includes more than lamers who couldn't get past the fact that they were hazed in high school (like I was, but I grew up).

    --

    Believe nothing, not even if I say it, if it violates your sense of reason -- Buddha

    1. Re:E-nough is *enough*! by Reductionist · · Score: 1

      the vast majority will join the great consumer-base that is the foundation of American society and culture.

      Oh yes... Geeks for all their quirks and mistrust of corporations are some of the biggest consumers of American culture.

      The sad part is that Americans areincreasingly referred to by the politicians and media as being consumers instead of citizens. Citizenship, along with its rights and privileges, implies that individuals have a responsibility to their community on the local and national level. Being a consumer on the otherhand implies no responsibility whatsoever, as the only thing that matters is an individuals right to freedom of choice when it comes to acquiring goods or services.

      I'm curious how many readers of Slashdot get involved in the community where they live. The stereotypical impression of most geeks is that they prefer to live their lives online and avoid dealing with the real world at all costs. I was certainly that way when I was younger when I preferred the escape that computer games offered over the difficulties and challenges of dealing with the real world. However, I've noticed that the older I get, how empty the constructs of the geek world seem to be. Thus my passion in life has slowly turned from computers and the virtual world to building real places worth caring about in the physical world.

      I'm not knocking people who like to play videogames for fun, but c'mon you have to admit they're an escape from reality for far too many people in this country(Evercrack being the best example). But then again its easy to see why so many Americans want an escape, whether its through computer/video games, alcohol/drugs/pr0n, or the mind numbing infotainment beamed out by the corporate media machine. The simple fact is that when we abandoned our cities, we trashed our local generators of history and culture in favor of a discount priced corporate monoculture. We created a whole nation of places not worth caring about, a landscape that at best has all the charm of an office park and at worst is a national automobile slum.

      Now just imagine for a second that all of the geeks decided to focus their talents on improving the physical world.. Imagine if we really built fantastical cities and landscapes instead of relegating them to the world of movies and videogames.

      Just imagine..

    2. Re:E-nough is *enough*! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At first, I thought Katz was a gifted teenage journalist, someone with true insight and awareness, writing post-Colombine stories and so forth.

      When I found out that he was nothing of the sort, I lost interest, (and got creeped out.)

  36. At some point, games peak by aftk2 · · Score: 1

    Anyone notice that the excitement you feel toward some sort of gaming opportunity peaks at a certain point? For the most part, I'm as excited about Game X coming in Q4 2002 as I was for Game Y in 1998. Warcraft III looks great, but my enthusiasm toward it is a pale shadow of my excitement at picking up Shining Force/Shining Force 2 for the Genesis, or Phantasy Star IV. Is this just the way of things as technology advances - excitement levels off, even as the capabilities of games improve? Am I simply a nostalgic twit? Or can revolutionary games actually make a gamer more interested in gaming as a whole, than he/she was 4 years ago?

    If so, what are the games that accomplish this? Are there any game revolutions any more? I remember Doom, and then Duke Nukem changing the way I thought about action games, and FF2 changing the way I thought about RPGs, with Daggerfall later obliterating that standard (even though its complexity was maddening at times.) Games are looking more beautiful and more realistic all the time...but in my experience this isn't enough by itself. Are games generally getting better, or worse? Is GTA3 a game that "ups the gaming ante," so to speak? Neverwinter Nights? What are some others?

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    concrete5: a cms made for marketing, but strong enough for geeks.
    1. Re:At some point, games peak by ronfar · · Score: 1
      In my opinion, there has been a change in the way that video games, I mean especially console games, are marketed that has led to the current decline in video game quality. There has been a decline in overall video game quality, in my opinion.

      The most important thing about video games currently is how they look. In the old days, games balanced user interface and graphics. Some games might have bad graphics but have great UIs, and some games might have good graphics and lousy UIs, but generally speaking there was a level of balance. Then came the whole "3D era" (which I actually consider the polygon era) which was ushered in by Nintendo and Sony (Sega were late to the party, adding "3D" capability to their systems at the last minute). In this period, the most important thing about a game was that it used polygons, not how it played. The fact is, I have yet to play a platformer or Street Fighter type of fighting game that was actually better because it was done in polygons. I also wonder what the point of doing certain types of games, like RPGs, in polygons when they seemed to work so well with detailed sprite graphics (I also think that polygons are detrimental to the appearance of RPGs).

      Part of this is taste. If you like sprite graphics you aren't going to like polygon graphics until they look just like sprite graphics. It's sort of like the difference between people who prefer traditional cel animation to something like Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.

      Marketing comes into this because the ability to push polygons and do math related to that became the benchmark that replaced bits. (It could have been worse, though, Sega wanted the benchmark to be how well a game system could do "Full Motion Video" see the large number of horrid FMV games for the Sega CD.) Even now, when people compare systems, they talk about things like polygon counts and bump mapping. (During the SNES/Genesis wars, bits and megaherz were the things people used, hence Sega's infamous "blast processing" marketing campaign.)

      This is important because companies have been known to emphasize polygon games while giving short shrift to decent sprite based games. Sega suppressed Eternal Champions for Saturn because they didn't want that sprite based game to compete with Virtua Fighter. Sony has been known to suppress games that use sprite graphics in the US market for this reason. I'm not even sure if the N64 can do sprite based action games, although Ogre Battle seems to be sprite based.

      Incidentally, I realize that some people (probably the majority) prefer polygon graphics to sprite graphics. It's a matter of taste, but I prefer sprite graphics. (Though there are a few polygon games I really like like Sacrifice and System Shock II.)

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      All the creatures will die, And all the things will be broken. That's the law of samurai. (Jubai, 1605)
    2. Re:At some point, games peak by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      That was a wonderful writeup.

      I knew these polygons were only going to be good in certain situations the minute i saw them, before the N64 and PS1... when i played StarFox on my SNES, i knew... something just wasn't right.

      I agree that it is a genre by genre thing. For Shooters and flying games (much as I didn't like Star Fox) polygons are the way to go.

      For platformer (my favorite kind of game) I really think detailed sprites are the best way. Imagine what kind of sprites a PS2 could push out! Though i did thouroughly enjoy Mario 64, but more for the puzzles than the platformy goodness.

      For RPGs, I loved sprite games like FF3, and I've also enjoyed some 3D ones. I think its a matter of taste. Its a lot easier to enjoy a cookiecutter sprite RPG than a cookiecutter 3D one, though. I hate playing bad 3d games, entering the tavern, and there was nothing there besides a box for a table.

      I guess its just an issue of taste, though.

  37. But they fry your brain right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Next we'll see something on slashdot about the cultural universality of frontal lobotomies or something.

  38. yet another article on 'video games' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    which is oblivious to the C64, BBC, Amiga, Atari ST, Spectrum, (insert 'home computer' here)

  39. It's Ralph Baer, no "i" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The inventor of the first video game - developed at a defense contractor, of all places - is still in New Hampshire:

    http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/main.asp?Search=1 &A rticleID=43867&SectionID=17&SubSectionID=327&S =1

  40. E-games? by saintlupus · · Score: 0, Troll

    E-games are now both historic and significant, representations of the birth of a culture.

    E-games? What the fuck is an E-games?

    Christ, Katz, give it up. I know the only thing you want to hear is some talking head on CNN saying "The term [whatever] was coined by super-cool post-Columbine geek champion Jon Katz." It's not going to happen. Shut your fucking cakehole and stop making words up already.

    --saint

  41. JonKatz is a good reviewer by RumGunner · · Score: 2

    He should write more reviews. I usually don't care for his articles, but I like this review.

    1. Re:JonKatz is a good reviewer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that sarcasm? I hope so. Katz seems to have too much shit for breakfast before he wrote this one.

  42. So many moderation points, so little time by sielwolf · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have some moderation points sitting in front of me. Is there any way I can mod down a couple sentences in this article?

    They embody a value system, mind-boggling inspiration, common language and experience. Huh?

    But then I figured it out. I realized that I just needed to run it through babelfish a few times and then I got the original decrypted message:
    They include a worthy system, inspiration of lie-hesitate, common language and experience. And they finally receive their defeated.

    I wonder if Katz writes all of his articles that way?

    --
    What is music when you despise all sound?
  43. ABC - 1200000 by Mupp252 · · Score: 1

    "Electronic games have spread the psychology of interactivity, re-defined narrative, and are a huge and growing swath of pop culture."

    How can something so good be so bad?

  44. "primitive pinballs"... by SoSueMe · · Score: 1

    One of my laptops runs ME. I use it for games. I like the challenge of pinball on it, which will "Tilt" first: the game or the machine.

  45. Is this a book review or an editorial? by GuyMannDude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Christ Katz, can't you ever have a SMALL point? Can't you ever just say "This is a pretty good book about video games, I recommend it."?

    No, with you it has to be "Video games have had more effect on the evolution of mankind than oxygen. This book is so good, that if you hold it and make a wish, it will come true. Columbine."

    Yeah, that was pretty much my feeling upon reading the review (although I was stunned that there wasn't a 9/11 reference anywhere).

    Honestly, videogames have not made that much of an impact on world (or even American) culture. They sure as hell do not "embody a value system, mind-boggling inspiration, common language and experience". The majority of people over the age of 30 do not currently play videogames and only vaguely remember the games they played as kids. Look, I'm not making any value statements here (i.e., videogames are only for kids). I'm just stating the way it is. To be some sort of cultural phenomenon, there has to be a broad cross-section of the population (across several demographic lines) that is heavily influenced by it. Star Wars is a cultural phenomenon. Tomb Raider is not.

    And I'd like to point out that it's really not necessary to try to put this book in some sort of global scope. Just tell us whether it's a good book or not. A book reviewer doesn't need to try to convince us of how the human race has been shaped and defined by videogames. The first couple of paragraphs of the "review" don't even discuss the book.

    GMD

    1. Re:Is this a book review or an editorial? by new-black-hand · · Score: 1, Informative

      The majority of people over the age of 30 do not currently play videogames and only vaguely remember the games they played as kids.

      Get your facts right

      GAMING POPULATION BY AGE 13-17 19.8%
      18-24 17.8%
      25-34 18.6%
      35-44 22.8%
      45-54 15.4%
      55+ 5.6%
      (PC Data)

      From: Wired 9.05

  46. Re:first blasphemous post! by RobinH · · Score: 4, Funny

    how the heck do I post a message without havink to reply?

    You still have to 'reply', but only to the original article. Just click the big REPLY button at the top of the page, just under Katz's drivel.

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  47. Becoming a big industry is a double edged sword. by FortKnox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Gaming is a big industry! Yay! Developers get money and we get great games, right?

    Not really.

    Big business is a double edged sword. Game publishers will only fund games that they know will make money. So instead of a great new game, you get a clone of the current best sellers. Innovation gets the boot in favor of the same games with prettier graphics.

    The only people that can really bring out innovation are major game gurus like the incredible Warren Spector, or Sid Meiers. The best chance for you to bring out innovation is to make a mod of a current game on your own time, and hope you can get enough attention for a publisher to take a chance on one of your ideas.

    This is what is currently bugging me about the video game industry... FPS aren't doing it anymore. We need FPS/RPGs like Deus Ex. FPS with a MAJOR TWIST like the Thief series. Deathmatch is dull, CapTheFlag has been done everywhere. We need a new style of online gaming for FPS. I ahven't seen DoomIII, yet, only heard about it. What I've heard from E3 is that its REALLY SWEET graphics, but they only went around and shot one or two enemies. Booooring.

    Innovation is what this industry needs. How do we get it??

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  48. They're bad by airship · · Score: 2, Informative

    I knew many of the people chronicled in this book, and I can say that it is well-written, well-documented, well-illustrated, well-designed, well-made, and, well, just plain good. Even the fact that Katz likes it can't change that.

    But don't forget that video games are bad for you. It was reported on Slashdot, so it can't be wrong!

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  49. Colossal Cave? by Zabu · · Score: 0

    take lamp
    take keys
    take bottle
    west
    south
    south
    unlock grate
    down
    west
    west
    take cage
    light lamp
    west
    west
    catch bird
    east
    east
    take rod
    XYZZY

    Oh, we all know ABACABB also!

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  50. The real reason Jon Katz posts articles... by oobeleck · · Score: 4, Funny
    Deep inside Slashdot headquarters...

    CmdrTaco: Curse it all... Another slow news day. We must do SOMETHING to keep the traffic up.

    Timothy: You aren't thinking....

    chrisd: Please God no, not again.

    CmdrTaco: Drastic times call for drastic measures boys... Release the Katz..

    chrisd: *sobbing*

    CmdrTaco: May God forgive my soul.

  51. Give me a break by evilpenguin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Replace "video game" with "masturbation" throughout this piece and you might be on to something. Good Lord, man! Video games are boredom killing machines. They make television look positively benevolent. Just imagine what wonders the youth of the world might be making if they weren't sitting slack-jawed in front of televisions sets, virtually kicking the shit out of BEM's. Maybe that is the cultural heritage of video games. Passivity and amusement. Frankly, I'd rather they were masturbating. I can see some value in that.

    1. Re:Give me a break by prestomation · · Score: 0, Troll

      The authors take us through the making of Space-Invaders and Pac-Man up to Myst and Tomb Raider. Apart from a chronicle of the early games, High Score focuses not only on the technological wizardry of e-games, but on the business and cultural context in which they appeared: when Sega introduced the Dreamcast, perhaps their best machine at the time, it was almost too late -- they were already up against PlayStation and N64. Even the Tamogochi-like memory card which incubated eggs for pet creatures in Sonic Adventure couldn't quite save them. The book is succinctly organized. It's actually beautifully presented in a publishing context -- short, well-reported, informative and illustrated chunks. Section One is "Before the Beginning," a tour of the "pre-history" of masturbation, including an homage to some of the earliest pinball machines and the various breakthroughs like integrated circuits that ultimately made e- games possible. Section Two focuses on the 70s, and the true birth of the gaming industry, sparked by Ralph Baier and Nolan Bushnell and Pong, one of the first games to become a household word. In the 80s, hit after hit spread through the country's masturbation arcades (many now closed due to the power of personal computing), and private homes were invaded by Atari, Intellevision and ColecoVision's masturbation systems. As the authors point out, the PC and the floppy made it possible for anybody to become a game developer. In the 90s, write DeMaria and Wilson, the CD-ROM, 3D graphics and broadband revolutionized masturbating. "New rivalries" -- and enormous investments from giant companies like Sony and Microsoft -- "create rapidly escalating technologies, immersive realism, and and wide range of crossovers and tie-ins. Developmental budgets skyrocket, interactive masturbation become very big business, and the companies themselves begin to merge and consolidate." Many maturbaters are now old enough to appreciate that they have a history. But many people still don't grasp how significant masturbating has become. Where else will you read about Dave Perry's launch of Shiny Entertainment in l993, after years of creating games overseas? Perry, who slept in the parking lot at Virgin, won Masturbater of the Year on the Genesis with Global Gladiators. The authors describe the rise of Tomb Raider and its journey to Hollywood, but that story is well-known. It's the masturbater-by-masturbater, breakthrough-by-breakthrough historical context that makes the book so compelling, and so important. Masturbating isn't just about entertainment. It's a common language, value system and way of thinking for millions of younger Americans, something the older and more mainstream culture has yet to appreciate. It's way past time society recognized the astonishing creativity and technology that went into the making of e-masturbaters, both in terms of game creators and the masturbaters themselves. As you read through High Scores, you get the sense of a history that transcends entertainment. What you see is the birth of a culture. This book does, and in the most readable way imaginable. It's tough to imagine anybody under 40 who reads this site - gamer or not -- who wouldn't love it.

    2. Re:Give me a break by KingKire64 · · Score: 1

      Games subbed for masterbation here you go:

      Remember Pong, Raid on Bungeling Bay, or Earthworm Jim? E-masterbation are now both historic and significant, representations of the birth of a culture. They embody a value system, mind-boggling inspiration, common language and experience. And they are finally getting their due. It is unbelievable how far video masterbation have come in the past 30 years, from pinball systems to the console wars raging between Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft, or how important they are culturally. In these masterbation are the stories of the transition from one age to another. Electronic masterbation have spread the psychology of interactivity, re-defined narrative, and are a huge and growing swath of pop culture. They are a gazillion-dollar business, already surpassing films in revenues. They have altered the consciousness and cognitive traits of at least one generation, perhaps two. High Score: the illustrated history of electronic masterbation, by Rusel Demaria and Johnny L. Wilson, is a beautifully organized history of this astounding and little-chronicled phenomenon, from primitive pinballs to the powerful new 3-D entertainment consoles.

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    3. Re:Give me a break by Kredal · · Score: 1

      Bah, how did that get modded down as "troll"? That was even funnier than the original article, and more truthful, too!

      "broadband revolutionized masturbating."

      "Developmental budgets skyrocket, interactive masturbation become very big business, and the companies themselves begin to merge and consolidate." Many maturbaters are now old enough to appreciate that they have a history. But many people still don't grasp how significant masturbating has become."

      How true is that?

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    4. Re:Give me a break by evilpenguin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The sad thing is that I didn't mean my post as a joke. The notion that video games are "cultured" is depressing and sad. Culture is not the impractical production of a civilization, it is that part of the production of a civilization that tries to tell the unobvious truth. It tries to expose and illuminate the real state of the society, it tries to point the way through hipocrisy, injustice, indifference, and prejudice to honesty, authenticity, justice, and compassion. It does this through any number of means including pathos, satire, tragedy, etc.

      Video games rarely come anywhere near these things (I can't say they never do -- I haven't played all video games). They divert, they amuse. They un-bore. They move us several hours closer to death with only stimulation in return. Your life (and mine) are slipping away by inches. I would hate to think that I will die with my contribution to civilization being a high score in Halo.

      None of this is meant to attack the games themsevles or the people who play them, but rather to point out Katz's hyperbole in grandly elevating video games to a cultural watershed.

    5. Re:Give me a break by budalite · · Score: 1

      Absolutely. This first time I ever saw a game with *any* sort of a "plot" (Spacequest II), I dumped every single 'video game' and never spent another quarter in an arcade. Mustaben a few like-minded folk: Arcades went the way of the comic books stands, in the corner drug stores, which were right next to the "Real Detective Magazines", which I ...um, never mind.

      Here's a question: Myst I, II, & III were wildly popular and made huge money. Why no competition? Even WarCraft III pretty much pales next to MystX.

  52. You are getting a bit jaded. by RatBastard · · Score: 1

    You are getting a bit jaded. I mean no insult by this. Honest. It has happened to me as well. DOOM was a "wet my pants" game. My wife used to quietly laugh at me when I would duck and dodge in my chair, or peer at my monitor at an angle trying to see around a corner. No game since has enthralled me like DOOM did. Is that because DOOM was so good that nothing as good has been made in the last 9.5 years? No. I've just gotten used to FPS games and know what to expect. It's no longer "Gee, whiz! This is all so new!".

    It's kinda like sex. The first few times you get some it's an amazing, life-changing thing. After (counts on fingers) 19 years of an active sex life, it's not quite so amazing anymore. It's still fun, and it still fills a need and all, but I don't think about the last tiime for weeks afterwords like I did 19 years ago.

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    1. Re:You are getting a bit jaded. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please, spell the name properly. It's DooM.

  53. Rocky's Boots. by dsandler · · Score: 1
    I think you're thinking of Rocky's Boots (more info), written by Warren Robinett and published by The Learning Company (which he founded; now subsumed into Broderbund, I think) in 1982.

    [I personally remember playing that game at school (on our single Apple ][) whenever I could get the chance. It wasn't until years later that I saw those symbols again and realized what the game had really been about!]

    1. Re:Rocky's Boots. by Ashyukun · · Score: 1

      Hmm. That does look similar, but not quite. If I remember right, the game's plot was something about you getting sucked into a computer and having to find and re-wire these robots to go through mazes, pick up key-cards, and all sorts of other things.

  54. AI in games by screwthemoderators · · Score: 1

    Its always impressed me that Artificial Intelligence has found so much use in video games, I hope this book has some mention of AI

  55. What they don't tell you is ... by BabyDave · · Score: 1
    ... that if you complete each chapter in under a minute, you get access to the special "Bonus Appendix" with answers to questions such as
    • What is the secret of Monkey Island?
    • The Sentinel - WTF?
    • Why do film-game conversions almost always suck?
    • Will Duke Nukem Forever actually be released someday?
    1. Re:What they don't tell you is ... by Dr.+Shim · · Score: 1

      Are there any cheats for this one? :>

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  56. My Jon Katz detector worked! by sterno · · Score: 1

    Okay, I started to read the paragraph without actually checking who the article was by. I got to the following line:

    E-games are now both historic and significant...

    And I was like E-GAMES??? Who the hell uses terms like that? And then I thought, "this has got to be Katz." Sure enough, it is.

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    1. Re:My Jon Katz detector worked! by Kredal · · Score: 2

      My Jon Katz detector didn't go off until it got to the phrase "representations of the birth of a culture"

      I guess it still needs some work.

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  57. He isn't, is he? by sam_handelman · · Score: 3, Funny

    You are not Spike Lee.

    Have you ever actually seen Jon Katz? Sure, there are a couple of photos on the web, but those could be anybody.
    Using Concordance (the software used to unmask Joe Klein as the author of primary colors; also used to classify works of literature) I have concluded that, in fact, Jon Katz IS Spike Lee. Or at least that these articles and the screen plays attributed to Spike Lee were written by the same person. It explains so much, I'm surprised it didn't occur to me earlier.

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    1. Re:He isn't, is he? by br0ck · · Score: 2

      Here's Jon Katz from this article which is as clear as anything I've seen him write, even though it's translated from French. I definitely see the Spike Lee resemblance.

    2. Re:He isn't, is he? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Concordance" is not a single piece of software. It is a family of techniques for description and discrimination of literature. Please read more carefully in the future.

  58. Dave And Busters' by Geeyzus · · Score: 2

    Have you ever been to a Dave And Buster's? They have locations nationwide and are the new wave of arcades. They carry the newest games and have a restaurant inside them as well as multiple bars, also pool tables and other things.

    This is about as close as you are going to come to the old arcade days.

    Unfortunately too, games now are different. Game makers no longer make games that increase in difficulty over and over, and allow you to play for long periods of time on one quarter. Most new games are tailored to require a coin drop within a few minutes, tops. If you don't believe me, try to name a new game that would let you play through it till the end on one play like Ms. PacMan or any of the other old-school arcade games... so now, the old "high-score" mentality is no longer there in my opinion. Now it's more of a 3-minute attraction that you pay 50 cents to a dollar to play, and then you move on.

    But if you are looking for a place to (and I quote you here) "play games, hang out, drink beer, meet girls", Dave And Busters' is THE place you are looking for... check it out.

    And no I don't work there, I just think it's a cool place to hang out and have fun. :)

    Mark

  59. Does it cover... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The last videogame book I read, Game over, excluded large and signifigant parts of videogame history: it behaved as if the Intellivision, Odyssey2, Sega Master System, and Turbografx never existed. Also, it focused on the united states, leaving the gaming culture of the rest of the world in question. Is this book the same way?

  60. Bowling alley babes? by GuyMannDude · · Score: 2

    What gaming needs is the equivalent of a bowling alley. Someplace to go be online, play games, hang out, drink beer, meet girls.

    I dunno about that one, dude. Have you actually seen the chicks that hang out at bowling alleys? Many of them are shaped like bowling balls themselves! And talking to these chicks is your plan for not feeling like a "loser" anymore? I don't know about you, man.

    All in gest, peteshaw .... :)

    GMD

  61. One Last Correction... by cnelzie · · Score: 1

    Jeeze... I can't believe I remember this...

    Up, Up, Down, Down, A, B, B, A, Select, Start ...Especially since video games turn off the beta-waves in the frontal lobe causing one to lose creativity and of course concen--

    Hmm... Donuts... *drool* ..and in retrospect, the end of the 19th century lead to the belief system that...

    What was I talking about?

    Oh yeah, Konami Rocked! With that uh... Iran Contra thing, darnit Ollie...

    -.-

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  62. Wrong Title by Trak · · Score: 1

    The title starts with "High Score!" not "High Scores:" in case any of you are searching your preferred online bookstores for it.

    1. Re:Wrong Title by terry_dyne · · Score: 1

      Katz gets the simplest of facts wrong. Imagine our surprise....

      More significantly, this book was published in April 2002. How does a book review that's four months tardy count as news?

      Hey Jonboy, how's that Jonathan Livingston Seagull review coming along?

  63. Correction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After checking my figures online, the correct value is ka-jillion. This obviously makes more sense than Katz' absurd gazillion.

  64. Re:Becoming a big industry is a double edged sword by Dr.+Shim · · Score: 1

    I completly agree with you! Latley, I've been playing Space Quest V, and Day of the Tenticle. Somehow I find them more fun to play then the latest Quake, even though the graphics are below atrocious.
    I believe gaming is becomming something like Television is now. Empty, repedetive, lack of creativness, and mind numbing!
    I find it intersting that you point out that industries will only fund games that will make money, which usually is a mimic of another game.
    We need more games like Black & White!

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  65. Don't worry by GuyMannDude · · Score: 2

    The history of video games is sorely underreported and under appreciated. Already many electronic games are disappearing as hardware and platforms become unavailable. The Abandonware scene is alive and well, but quietly our gaming history is disappearing. I encourage all Slashdot readers to read up on your gaming history and try to preserve a great and thriving culture.

    You don't need to worry about losing videogame history. It is simply becoming a part of our contemporary value system, mind-boggling inspiration, common language and experience.

    GMD

  66. best book for old school computer games by kisrael · · Score: 2

    This is the first nostalgia videogame books I've seen that has a significant focus on the old computer games-- Raid on Bungeling Bay is a good example of an old fav of mine, stuff like Star Control 2, the old SSI Wargameas, all that stuff--with lots of boxart and behind-the-scenes design stuff and what have you. Other good books like Supercade, Phoenix, Arcade Fever, etc mostly focus on the consoles and the arcade.

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  67. USA-centric by nattt · · Score: 1

    This book seems to miss out almost completely on the global perspective. Computer games didn't just happen in the USA. Many very important titles came out of Europe in the 80's, especially the UK - none of which seem to be mentioned. What about such classics as Manic Miner, Uridium, Jet Pac, Monty Mole, Paradroid etc.

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    1. Re:USA-centric by stoolpigeon · · Score: 1

      You're right.

      It's ignoring a lot of games that my friends and I wrote in the 80's as well. They were huge amongst the other computer room geeks at my school.

      What a sucky book not to include every game from every where.

      There should be a U.S. Centric post on every single thread on /. because when there isn't I forget that other countries even exist.

      .

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    2. Re:USA-centric by nattt · · Score: 1

      QED

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    3. Re:USA-centric by British · · Score: 2

      It's funy you should mention that. I noticed a lot of the racing-themed games come out of the UK.

      All 3 Carmageddons came from SCI.

      Demolition racer: no exit came from Pitbull.

      Grand Theft Auto came from DMA.

    4. Re:USA-centric by irix · · Score: 2
      What about such classics as Manic Miner, Uridium, Jet Pac, Monty Mole, Paradroid etc.

      Ok, I'll bite. I've owned a PC (and used it for gaming) for 16 years and various consoles for even longer, but I've never even heard of any of these games. And I don't even live in the US!

      Care to enlighten on us on why they are classics?

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    5. Re:USA-centric by Brummund · · Score: 1


      A PC? No wonder you haven't heard of those, then. 16 years? Not enough.

      Those games are classics, and I've played them on my C64. (Although I guess they were available for the Spectrums, as well.)

  68. PONG-Story by surfimp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For those of you wishing to know more about the history of PONG, you should check out PONG-Story. It's got a lot of great information about Ralph Baer, Atari, etc. A must for any PONG aficionados out there!

  69. Pt 2 by Drath · · Score: 2

    One of these days someone is going to do a "History of Video Game Histories" it seems like these things pop up every couple months (years?)

    Hooray fanboy cash..

  70. Double standard? by evilpenguin · · Score: 2

    I thought closed, proprietary systems under rigid intellectual property control were evil (I think they are)? Apparently not when it involves shooting things, blowing things up, side-scrolling, or texture-mapping.

    We have to remember that it is all related. The "values" of the video game industry are the same as those of the MPAA, RIAA, and Microsoft.

    1. Re:Double standard? by Flamerule · · Score: 1
      Not true... yet.

      Closed, proprietary systems (I'm not sure about "rigid intellectual property control") aren't evil -- they're just one kind of software. Um... maybe it's a different matter for hardware. But even on Slashdot, most people will agree that there is a role for proprietary software to play in the industry. Console/PC gaming is one of these roles.

      We have to remember that it is all related. The "values" of the video game industry are the same as those of the MPAA, RIAA, and Microsoft.

      Some things are related. In the case of the gaming industry, there is still much more fragmentation as regards developers and publishers than there is in both the movie and music industries. Even though this is beginning to change, with companies like Electronic Arts becoming multi-billion $ behemoths, there is still a great deal of opportunity for small game developers. Additionally, there is no organization for the gaming industry that (as yet) performs a role similar to the all-encompassing power that the MPAA and RIAA hold over their respective industries. The largest gaming organization is the Interactive Digital Software Association, but few of its activities resemble the Gestapo tactics of the *AAs.

      So, while some publishers' "values" may resemble those of certain hated industry organizations, many developers' and publishers' don't. Would anyone criticize Sid Meier, Warren Spector, Chris Taylor, Peter Molyneux, etc.? These guys are like the big stars of the music industry -- except they reap the benefits of their talent, and they get control over their projects. They aren't beholden to industry executives in the same way that virtually all music stars are. Hell, I shouldn't use "they get control"; it makes it sound like they receive their rights from someone else -- which is not the case. They have the freedom to choose their own destinies.

  71. Gaming also added to good jokes by A_Non_Moose · · Score: 2

    (Real conversation, BTW)
    A Friend: Well my wife finally broke down and bought me a Thrustmaster.

    Me: Cool, how is it?

    Friend: Very good, responsive and configurable, but it is a really stiff stick.

    (pause)

    Friend: But what would you expect from a company called Thrustmaster?

    { I still chuckle when I think about that conversation... Games and innuendo...who'd a thunk? }

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  72. Re:Becoming a big industry is a double edged sword by gosand · · Score: 2
    Innovation is what this industry needs. How do we get it??

    The industry doesn't need innovation, there is plenty of that. First let me say I am not a gamer. OK, so I grew up with arcades in the 80's, then Atari, then Nintendo, but it pretty much stopped there. I had better things to do. I don't play that many games on the PC, although I have spent many many hours playing Quake Team Fortress. I even created my own map. Create your own map!? That is innovative. But for some reason, that is boring now. You know what made the old arcade games (and Quake TF) fun? Good gameplay. It doesn't have to be innovative, it needs to be FUN. And when a game is fun, what do most gamers do? They spend an entire weekend playing the damn thing 24/7. A month after a game has come out, it has been played to death and people are waiting for the next great thing.

    Now this isn't true with all games, of course. Some have staying power. But how many games do you have that you can play once you have "beaten" it. I'll bet not that many. The consumers are driving the industry.

    Maybe I don't fully get it because I am not a gamer. I don't want to be, quite honestly. Games turned into a big business, just like arcade games did. Believe me, there were plenty of stinker arcade games too. But I can still play a few games on my Galaga arcade machine, have an absolute blast, and walk away from it.

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  73. Katz almost has it right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    And for him, that's a good thing. I mean, the guy misses the point...never mind.

    Anyway, just wanted to clear up something he said at the beginning of his review.

    He talks about the Dreamcast being done-in by The PS1 and N64. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    The Dreamcast was done in by a couple of things:
    1) Sega was woefully undercapitalized for the Dreamcast battle. The DC initially did extremely well (who can forget the fun of 9/9/99), but Sega simply didn't have the dollars to carry this thing forward until it "stuck" with consumers.

    2) Sony did the classic FUD with their PS2 announcement. They were so rattled by Dreamcast's initial success they basically announced the PS2 almost 2 years ahead of its ship date in the US (I suspect that's why the PS2 is so mediocre; it was a response to a competitor rather than a new, stand-alone idea).

    But it wasn't the PS1 and N64 that killed off the DC, not by a long-shot.

  74. Its a good book by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was skeptical (I buy all book on video game history, I have an entire collection), but not only is this thing accurate, it has a lot of pictures and good text.

    Best of all, it doesn't cost $50.

    I recommend it.

  75. Those mistakes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are katz's, not the books. The book is quite accurate.

  76. Katz always does that to people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You think you're being fair at first.

    But then it occurs to you that he's fairly clueless, but knows how to use a word processor.

    ON deeper analysis, you conclude he is a fucking moron simply because he thinks he's smart.

  77. NO they didn't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The games that you mention were NOTHING.

    Video games were invented and perfected in the US.

    The Japanese figured out how to make them smaller and more reliable though.

    The europeans? They invented old, overpriced, overrated video games lacking in any sort of fun.

  78. Movie industry far larger than video game industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    They are a gazillion-dollar business, already surpassing films in revenues.

    Only if you compare apples to oranges. The entire revenue of the video game industry, including sales of software, consoles, accessories, etc. (around $7 billion), is greater than the movie industry yearly box office totals.

    However, the movie industry has more revenue sources than just box office returns, such as VHS & DVD sales and rentals. To really compare the two, we should also add in yearly sales of vcrs and dvd players.

  79. A Lost Art Form by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 3, Interesting


    They don't make "primitive" pinball games anymore. "Primitive" meaning those astounding engineering marvels that look like giant Swiss watch conglomerations inside. Each game being an utterly unique piece of engineering art, with its "software" made out of gears and switches. "Primal" is a significantly better description, and in that sense, I think games have lost a lot since those days. You can feel a pinball game for real, it's not haptic, it's a hunk of metal that you can push and pound and "tilt". Keeping an eye on the butt end of a pinball player, watching him/her play shows that they move most of their entire body. It looks more interactive than Quake because from a physical reality standpoint it is more interactive. Modern games are incredible in their own right, but with primal pinball it is 100% reality, there is no abstraction. Something amazing will be lost forever when the last Midway mechanical pinball machine plays its last ball.

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    Operator, give me the number for 911!
  80. No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would, however, consider buying a book Katz didn't like. If he doesn't like it, it is a point in its favor.

  81. The real "high scorers" by jolshefsky · · Score: 1
    Speaking in near-off-topic diversions, I was curious if the book discusses the literal "high scorers" in the video game world. I always wondered who the legends of the arcade really were--and if they ever went on to do other great things. I mean who was "A.S.S." who seemed to visit every arcade in the country in the early eighties to mid eighties, only to be nearly ousted by "K.U.L." What ever became of the ever present "A.A.A." and the presumably related "B.A.A."--both of who still play games today.

    If this book doesn't cover it, I don't know if we'll ever know.

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    --- Jason Olshefsky

    Karma: Poser (mostly affected by adding this line long after everyone else did)

    1. Re:The real "high scorers" by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      I know this is a joke, but there is a real video game and pinball high score book, with official judges and all that good stuff being published by twin galaxies.

      Its 1,200 pages too!

      Visit www.twingalaxies.com for more info.

  82. Author's comments by demaria99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    First, thanks for all the commmentary. And thanks for the review. I thought I'd take the opportunity to respond to some of the comments I've heard about High Score! And some of what I think are misconceptions.

    First, my goal in creating the book was to make it visual - a colorful journey through the history of games. To do so required some compromises. For instance, the stories (the actual text) had to be kept pretty short. It's amazing how much space it takes to write substantial text, and how often it came down to "more story" or "more and bigger graphics." I was constantly fighting with the publisher for more pages. However, since the retail price of the book is only $24.99, and it is all color and oversized, they quite legitimately refused to do a 500-page book. In my opinion, the book provides a lot for the price and McGraw-Hill was a great company to work with. They all worked really hard to make the book as good as it could be.

    I also find some people recommending other books, such as Steve Kent's and Leonard Herman's books. I want to echo those recommendations. Steve and Leonard have done great jobs, and it was never my intention, or Johnny's, to redo what they had done. I'm really happiest when someone looks at High Score! and has happy nostalgic moments - which are mostly triggered by the pictures. In interviewing many of the pioneers of electronic games for the book, I was able to get some interesting facts, some cool quotes and, hopefully, the nugget of the history. I hope readers will find that material interesting. However, it is my belief that the greatest strength of High Score! is in the graphics, and that there are other books that have approached the subject with more depth, though none (that I've seen) covering the evolution of PC games. At any rate, I hope it's not "either/or" but more like "both/and".

    And High Score! is far from perfect. There are plenty of omissions and even a few mistakes (I'm embarrassed to say). I'd love to do a future updated version of it with more pictures (I have plenty that weren't used), with some omitted games and companies added in, and with more coverage of the history in Europe and Japan. That will depend on the publisher and how well the book does.

    Finally, it is my hope that people will enjoy the book. We don't really attempt to make all that many grand philisophical points in it (despite the tone of the review). Johnny and I each have our own opinions about the impact electronic games have had on our world. (And no, we don't use the term "e-games" anywhere that I know of. It's not in my vocabulary and I don't think it's in Johnny's, either.) But I think we kept our philosophy mostly out of the book. It wasn't our intention to do a whole lot of philosophizing - though maybe just a little.

    I do think it's interesting to observe the idealistic philosophies of companies like Atari and EA when they started out, and compare them to the business as it exists today. But, again, the main purpose of the book was to have fun, and to share it with others.

    Even though the book took a ton of work, and I really wanted it to be something great, in the end it's not a prescription for world peace or a deep exploration of human consciousness. It's a picture book, hopefully a pretty cool one, about electronic games - where they came from, some of the people who pioneered them and how they evolved. So, I hope people will enjoy it for what it is.

    Thanks,

    Rusel DeMaria

    1. Re:Author's comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I'd love to do a future updated version of it with more pictures (I have plenty that weren't used)

      Sounds like ideal material to put up on the web in the meantime - bonus material for those who buy the book perhaps.

      Matt

    2. Re:Author's comments by demaria99 · · Score: 1

      I have thought of it...

  83. Almost! by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 1


    Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right-B-A-B-A

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    Operator, give me the number for 911!
  84. Statisticitis by virg_mattes · · Score: 2

    Um, these statistics don't back up what you're saying. They give percentages of gamers by age, but everyone in the set is a gamer. His statement was that less than 50% of 30+-year-olds play games. Your statistics say nothing about that.

    Virg

    1. Re:Statisticitis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, these statistics don't back up what you're saying. They give percentages of gamers by age, but everyone in the set is a gamer. His statement was that less than 50% of 30+-year-olds play games. Your statistics say nothing about that.

      Actually, since his statistics say that 18.6% of people 25-34 play videogames, and 18.6% 50%, I'd say his statistics say everything about that.

      Think about what you plan to say before you say it. Dumbass.

    2. Re:Statisticitis by Golias · · Score: 1
      Actually, since his statistics say that 18.6% of people 25-34 play videogames

      Actually, no they don't. They say that 18.6% of people who play video games are 25-34. That does not tell you how many 25-34 year-olds play video games, only that those who do make up slightly less than 20% of the gaming population.

      Make sure you are not the one who is mistaken before you go calling somebody a dumbass.

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      Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

  85. Ahhh... by SPYvSPY · · Score: 2

    ...can you drill down on that some more? I'm not sure your belt-and-suspenders approach is going to work. We need to incentivize our people toward efficiencies, not overages.

    1. Re:Ahhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They'll need to leverage the synergy between the clicks-and-mortar and B2B e-business strategies if they want to acquire mindshare, that's for sure.

  86. No, get YOUR facts straight by GuyMannDude · · Score: 2

    I seriously do not know why someone moderated you as Informative. Take a closer look at those stats you quoted. The percentages add up to 100%. That's because it is showing the percentage of gamers in that age group. Not the percentage of people in that age group who are gamers. And even so, 22.8% + 15.4% + 5.6% = 43.8% which is less than 50%.

    Before you start insulting someone in public, do a sanity check to make sure you don't say something obviously wrong.

    GMD

    1. Re:No, get YOUR facts straight by new-black-hand · · Score: 1

      Sorry, your right. I just re-read it. Interesting statistics regardless.

      have a nice day

  87. Rutgers Arcades by virg_mattes · · Score: 2

    They don't. They completely revamped the student center on College Avenue (put in some kind of cafe' on the basement floor) and reduced the size and variety of the arcade. The Livingston arcade doesn't even exist any more (I think I spent more money on Gauntlet there than for tuition), and the Douglass one always sucked. The only one left is in the Busch studcutter and it's mostly the new stuff, although the old boys are still around (two of them got "borrowed" and are in the engineering building now).

    Virg

  88. Slashdot Due for an Upgrade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The more I read slashdot, the more I think that slashdot desperately needs to add features to allow for the rating or review of articles posted, even if only to influence the authors of the site to provide alternate content in certain areas.

    I'd LOVE to be able to rate an article (if not mod it out of existance) that is complete and utter crap, in the same manner that I would rate higher an article that intrigues and excites me. Granted, Slashdot ed's have a primitive ratign system displayed in the number of highly moderated replies versus total replies, but where are the statistics for number of views? clickthroughs? total mod points spent on the replies?

    Slashdot is due, even overdue for upgrades. Let's see some new features, new looks, new authors and editors. It's time for a change.

  89. Katz Did Something Worthwhile! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The real news is that this is the first thing I've ever read by Jon Katz that was helpful.

  90. Why did Square request to be left out? by _xeno_ · · Score: 2
    Why'd Square request not to be mentioned? I literally bought a PlayStation and PlayStation 2 to play Final Fantasy. I'm sure you would have been able to do a nice section on them - but according to the afterword or something (it's my younger brother's book, I haven't had a chance to read through it yet) they requested not to be mentioned - which is too bad, since they've done some pretty amazing games. Final Fantasies I, VI, VII, and X all strike me as some of the greatest games I've played. (VIII can rot, IV was OK but I didn't find it to be quite as good as the others, II, III, and V were never released in the US (well, V has been rereleased, but I haven't played through it yet).) I have a sneaking suspicion that with XI we are seeing the last of the Final Fantasy series of games - which is too bad.

    I'd understand if they also requested you not to explain why, but I'm curious, so if you can tell, please do!

    Other than that, the most of the games I remember playing as a kid seemed to be in there, although you missed Scram and Ladder! (Really early DOS games - I wanna see if anyone else out there recoginizes them.) But Zork was in there, so that's good. I think Planetfall was too, but I'm not sure - I only got to glance through the book over my brother's shoulder and again on the way up to a store to get him Jak and Daxter for his birthday.

    (And trust me, driving while having your little brother try and show you pretty pictures gets annoying very fast - although your book did shut him up :P (I'm kidding - he's usually a good passenger, except when it comes to trying to point to pictures while I'm changing lanes...) However, I'm pretty sure that he really likes your book - even if he doesn't recognize half the old games.)

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    You are in a maze of twisty little relative jumps, all alike.
    1. Re:Why did Square request to be left out? by demaria99 · · Score: 1

      Square didn't really give a reason for asking not to be included. Despite email and letters from me and from several other industry people, and even a phone call directly to the head of Square USA, they simply said no. After months of trying, we finally had to give up. They would not give us permission to use any screenshots or graphics from their games.

      I, too, am a huge fan of Square's games. In fact, I even wrote a strat guide on Secret of Mana. Getting permission to print screens and art from games was a major task, and the Japanese companies were somewhat more difficult than those here in the States - which is why there was much less specific coverage of the origins of Japanese companies other than Sega and Nintendo (both of whom were immensely helpful). I deeply regret having to leave Square out of the book. On the other hand, the images that we did include were all with permission or with the tacit blessing of the copyright holders.

  91. Re:No, YOU get YOUR facts straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, if you add half of the 25-34 age group that is 30 and over, that pushes it over 50%.

    Maybe you need the sanity check? :)

  92. The Ultimate History of Video Games by vitaflo · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you really want to learn about the history of video games I'd highly reccommend The Ultimate History of Video Games by Steve Kent. While there aren't many pictures, there are quotes from just about every name in the business and stories that will make your head spin.

    It leterally covers everything, from the beginings of pinball to the latest generations of systems, and everything in between. Steve Kent is widely recognized as the best gaming journalist there is and it shows in this book. Excellent read. If you're serious about gaming, I'd check it out.

  93. Re:first blasphemous post! by illsorted · · Score: 1

    You still have to 'reply', but only to the original article. Just click the big REPLY button at the top of the page, just under Katz's drivel.

    I know this is off-topic, but why isn't that button labeled "Create Thread" or something similar? It took me longer than it should have to figure out how to post without replying to someone else.

    Maybe I'm just an idiot.

  94. No hard feelings by GuyMannDude · · Score: 2

    Thanks for the acknowledgement. As you can see from some of the other comments, you weren't the only one who misread the stats. And you're right: the stats are pretty interesting. I would have never imagined that 5% of gamers are over 55!

    No hard feelings...

    GMD

  95. Snort by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stop it, you guys are killin' me here.

  96. This thing better mention commodore somewhere... by MilesBehind · · Score: 1

    From the way it's described, this book seems to be focused primarily on the birth of north american gaming culture. It's always the same: pinball - arcade - sega/nintendo - pentiums and graphic cards. It's kinda like the freaking cavemen - greeks - romans - middle ages - capitalism - america dogma that western school pump into us.
    From a european perspective, I am sure that gaming in the old continent would not have gone anywhere were it not for C64s and Amigas. Earliest gaming experiences for a lot of people involve adjusting the head of a c64 tape deck with their lucky screwdriver, or tapping on those ugly ugly spectrum ZXs, just to get some good old Scramble or Zaxxon action. Or to waste nights playing Blue Max or Elite. I am fairly certain that this book will swoon over all the japanese imported games, skipping all the Amiga lore like Shadow of the Beast, or Alien Breed.

  97. Next on the 11 news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    John will bring us an illustrated history of the diference engine.
    And the compostible iron horeless carridge, slipers for the peseant, socialism, democracy, and ply press poly organic, (sometimes recicled) pulpus materials for ink absorbtion, polocarbante-biurththame cypher cripled mono plane disk with missing mass at the center (normally 1/4 of the circomrence).
    After this he'll tell us about the ARPO net, and this odd thing called Hyper Text Markup Language, low english, and spike-please-don't-say-my-movies-suck-and-i'm-harp ing-about-tired-dead-issues.

  98. Just don't forget how exclusive this is: by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

    Especially seeing as 80%-90% of the worlds population hasn't even made a phone call yet.

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  99. have to do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    never done it before, know lots of other people are going to get to it first, know i can hit a checkbox and get rid of him, blah, blah, blah...

    but...

    KATZ, YOU PRETENTIOUS POMPOUS FUCK! SHUT THE FUCK UP!

  100. Video Games = Culture? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only if you're an aspiring PoMo Pinhead.

    Signed,

    Mike Nomad

  101. ARCADE GAMES ARE THE ***REAL*** THING by xelph · · Score: 1

    Despite advances in home gaming technology, nothing will ever replace the experience of having been a teenager sweating over a good game of Defender, Tempest, or Q*bert (name your favorites), along with tens of other similarly sweating teenagers, in a dark arcade room full of machines having a life of their own in attract mode. Real men play arcade games. Quiche eaters play console games. Real men have their 3-letter nickname flashing permanently in the high score list of arcade games around the world. Quiche eaters have their nickname stored in their personal high score list, with no other name, on PlayStation, GameCube or XBox memory cards.

  102. Remember when... by Smallest · · Score: 2

    ...games were actually really 3-D. like, you know, kids went outside to play?

    -c

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  103. same goes for WWW vs. world wide web by dinodriver · · Score: 1

    Saying WWW takes 9 syllables while saying "world wide web" only takes 4 (or 3 if you slur "world").

  104. It's the monkeys stupid. by peterdaly · · Score: 2

    I am convinced Jon Katz is really a team of 1000 monkeys banging on keyboards. Each time something is written in MS Office that doesn't have those squigley underline things, a slashdot article is posted.

    -Pete

    1. Re:It's the monkeys stupid. by hplasm · · Score: 1

      Now I have an image of 1000 monkeys banging...

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  105. I got yer common language right here by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 1

    u u d d l r l r b a b a sel start

    You either grok it or you don't.

  106. l993 by sulli · · Score: 2
    attn. Jon:

    IIRC most keyboards have a 1 key. I recommend using it for greater readability.

    Thought you'd like to know.

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    sulli
    RTFJ.
  107. Re:Becoming a big industry is a double edged sword by HarPaX · · Score: 1

    Oh but you are wrong. What about GTA3? Who was the lead designer on that game? Can you name 1 person that worked on Never Winter Nights?

    Yes, publishers are there to make money, and yes, we get LOTS and LOTS of licences and follow-up games. But there is room for innovation. Even if you name is not Spector, Meiers, Wright or Carmack.

  108. from the lame-ass-department-name dept. by Gunnery+Sgt.+Hartman · · Score: 1

    You've got to be kidding!! "from the games dept." That is a pathetic excuse for creative journalism! How about " from the those-were-the-days dept." or "from the ahhh-nostalgia dept." the games dept. sounds like a friggin over-commercialized-give-me-your-money-in-exchange -for-a-piece-0f-shit department store. For the love of God, use some creativity!!

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  109. International Ban on The Use of PCBs by hplasm · · Score: 1

    There should be a ban on PCBs (Pseudo Corporate Bullshit) or perhaps on the Marketing Droids that spawn them. Let's run this idea up the flagpole and... DOH!!

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    ...and he grinned, like a fox eating shit out of a wire brush.
  110. No talent, parroting trolls: by John Katz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the subject says it all!

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