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Time to Say Thanks For the Uptime

DepecheModem writes: "MSNBC is running an article about System Administrator Appreciation Day. Ted Kekatos created this holiday three years after seeing a poster of a system administrator being bombarded with presents. Feeling somewhat underappreciated, he declared his "day" as the last Friday in July. I think we should all remind our employers that administrators are people too and proudly wear our buttons bearing "Have you hugged your geek lately?"."

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  1. That's right. by SpanishInquisition · · Score: 5, Funny

    Say thank you to the poor sysadmin by slashdoting his system.

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    1. Re:That's right. by Captain_Nately · · Score: 1

      hmmmm, the last Friday in July coincides with the Portland Brewers' Festival....interesting.

    2. Re:That's right. by ceejayoz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      2002-07-23 16:06:43 Hug a Geek Day (articles,announcements) (rejected)

      meh :-/

    3. Re:That's right. by stungod · · Score: 2

      Absolutely!!! The first thing I did this morning when I read this was to tell my boss that I would be there instead of here. How convenient!

      We'll see what he thinks of the expense report...

    4. Re:That's right. by fobbman · · Score: 3, Funny

      2002-07-23 16:06:43 Hug a Geek Day (articles,announcements) (rejected, but we appreciate you!)

    5. Re:That's right. by Flower · · Score: 1
      See, I would have rejected you too having seen the women where I work. And forget about the men hugging me. I just don't embrace my feminine side or inner child or whatever.

      Now if you had phrased it "[Cute females | Hot males] will bow and serve their Sysadmin masters for a day" I could have dug that for a headline. Need that regular expression in there so our fellow female or gay sysadmins wouldn't feel left out. I mean we do need to be inclusive. After all Exchange admins get to celebrate too.

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  2. How I'm planning on celebrating Friday... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    By getting drunk at 9am! Wait until they meet Drunken System Administrator. "You lost your password huh? That sucks. Keep guessing!"

    1. Re:How I'm planning on celebrating Friday... by kiwimate · · Score: 5, Funny

      Amateur. The BOFH would ruthlessly torment the user by resetting the password to something vaguely resembling line noise before he'd even sniffed the first lager of the day.

    2. Re:How I'm planning on celebrating Friday... by sharkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      "You lost your password huh? That sucks. Keep guessing!"

      Now, that's not very pro-active. Take a tip from Simon and use things like "goshimaplonker" or "imaginebeingsostupid". You have to WORK for job satisfaction.

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    3. Re:How I'm planning on celebrating Friday... by mikecarrmikecarr · · Score: 1

      "You lost your password huh? That sucks. Keep guessing!"

      Now, that's not very pro-active. Take a tip from Simon and use things like "goshimaplonker" or "imaginebeingsostupid". You have to WORK for job satisfaction.

      What about the old standby, I-D-TEN-T?

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    4. Re:How I'm planning on celebrating Friday... by Heywood+Yabuzof · · Score: 1


      or PEBCAK, for that matter...

    5. Re:How I'm planning on celebrating Friday... by sharkey · · Score: 2

      I rather like, "There's a nut loose on the keyboard."

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    6. Re:How I'm planning on celebrating Friday... by Penguinshit · · Score: 1


      I was known to make up "random" passwords (told to the userbase to be generated by a self-authored script). They would be something like I4a5lT! or Mbwm4RBa, depending on whether or not I liked the user. Sometimes, depending on mood, nothing could help the poor victi^H^H^H^H^Huser.

      I4a5lT! = "I am a short little troll!"
      (vertically-challenged lab engineer.. ended up being a very good friend.)

      Mbwm4RBa = "My butt wouldn't make a Reef Brazil ad"
      (the Brazilian wife of another engineer. She benefitted from nepotism to obtain her job. I still don't like her.)

      After a while some of the more brilliant engineers started to catch on. Perhaps it was the drunken laughter as I created user accounts in the afternoons after lunch...

    7. Re:How I'm planning on celebrating Friday... by will_sd · · Score: 1

      Actually our sysadmin has a very nice way to make people aware of this little password problem.

      First time, he resets the password to "DoNotForget01", then "DoNotForget02" and so on. After a while when the counter reaches a (usually low) random number, he resets the password to "NextTimeIDeleteYourAccount".

      Then you get users calling and saying "yeah, how dare you imply I may have forgotten my password??? Of course not! It's this bloody system that won't let me in! There's obviously a bug in the application!".

      *lol*

  3. Show your appreciation... by oldmildog · · Score: 3, Funny

    Say hello and show your appreciation by paging your sysadmin with "07734" every hour or so.

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    1. Re:Show your appreciation... by sporty · · Score: 2

      id107 is a lot better.. :)

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    2. Re:Show your appreciation... by realdpk · · Score: 2

      Or do what one of our customers did and register a domain with your pager e-mail address as a contact handle.

      Hooray for Viagra spam at 2AM!

  4. Blah by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Another stupid Soandso Day.

    Blah.

    I get paid, that's thanks enough.

    World would be better with no appreciation days.

    1. Re:Blah by HiQ · · Score: 1

      I suggest a 'no appreciation day' appreciation day

    2. Re:Blah by ThinkSpeak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think the reason for this "holiday" and others like Secretaries Day are to recognize members of your organization who go "beyond the call of duty."

      I am sure you all have stories about incompetent sys admins but what about the gurus that get asked all sorts of questions about things that may not fit into their job descriptions.

      I can't tell you how many times I get calls about things that have nothing to do with my official job (what digital camera should I buy?, How do I network more than one computer to use my home internet connection? How do I create my own web site?)

      I try to provide answers and even point the user to a place where they can do some more research on it even though I could easily say "That's not my job!"

  5. Day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    last Friday in July

    Errr ... in half the world (EU and US) it is Wednesday. In the other half it is Thursday.

    Or is this just a setup for the duplicate on Friday?

    1. Re:Day? by tanveer1979 · · Score: 2

      Well it will be friday someday,... right then we will celebrate.... and you can always ask your sysadmin to change the system clock..simple

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    2. Re:Day? by Peyna · · Score: 2

      It's so we all have time to go out and buy pretty hallmark cards that say "Happy ______ Day" and can fill in the blank and give it to them. (I can't imagine any 'Happy Admin Day' cards exist yet.)

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    3. Re:Day? by EvlOvrLrd · · Score: 1

      We are working on it. Check your favorite Hallmark distribution point this time next year.

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    4. Re:Day? by terrymr · · Score: 2

      Oddly enough the 26th is a friday everywhere that uses our calendar and days of the week. The website plainly referes to the 26th as being System Admin Day.

  6. Hope Hallmark doesn't jump on this by theRhinoceros · · Score: 4, Funny

    Great idea, actually, might even actually do something to improve professional relationships. I just hope Hallmark doesn't latch onto this like they have Mother and Father's Days... imagine commercials for cheesy cards and flower arrangements and chocolate baskets for SysAdmin Day, managers frantically calling 1-800-FLOWERS to avoid the manufactured faux pas of forgetting the date until the last minute...

    1. Re:Hope Hallmark doesn't jump on this by JBMcB · · Score: 2, Funny

      The Hallmark cards could come with the latest XP service pack CD.

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    2. Re:Hope Hallmark doesn't jump on this by xtremex · · Score: 1

      What if your sysadmin sucks??? What if he's a 2-bit MCSE and has to call tech support to get the network back up? (This crap DOES happen..I was replaced by just a person)

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    3. Re:Hope Hallmark doesn't jump on this by EvlOvrLrd · · Score: 1

      Too late. There are more slashdot geeks at hallmark than you may care to guess.

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    4. Re:Hope Hallmark doesn't jump on this by NecrosisLabs · · Score: 1

      I haven't really celebrated S-Day since it has become so commercialized.

    5. Re:Hope Hallmark doesn't jump on this by Penguinshit · · Score: 1


      I had a graft system going for any "special" services. I was instrumental in designing a base (and I mean *BASE*) level of service the users could expect on a daily basis. Anything over and above that (like creating user accounts prior to start of employment) would require a bottle of wine. Depending on the severity of the service (directly related to the urgency of the user) the price tag on the bottle would be adjusted upward accordingly.

      Your mouse is malfunctioning? That'll be a bottle of $10 Cabernet..

      Your email is down and you're expecting a spreadsheet from a vendor? Hmm.. I'm thinking that's gonna take a bottle of Beaulieu De La Tour.

      Your deleted your Powerpoint presentation and need an emergency restore for the Board meeting in 10 minutes? Oh... my man.. you're gonna need to cough up a Chateau Petrus, or two of the Rothschilds. I know you have them in your cellar because I hacked into your webcam last week...

    6. Re:Hope Hallmark doesn't jump on this by AA0 · · Score: 1

      ah, I can see it now.

      a Thank you Sys Admin card

      from Dog....

  7. "SAAD"? by Radi-0-head · · Score: 5, Funny
    Does anyone else find it ironic that the acronym for "System Administrator Appreciation Day" is "SAAD"?

    System Technical Overseer, North Eastern Division ("STONED") would be more appropriate in our case...

    1. Re:"SAAD"? by xphase · · Score: 2, Funny

      The "Distribution Related Underseer of Networked Keyboards" here loves that name!

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    2. Re:"SAAD"? by Callamon · · Score: 1
      Makes sense to me, since we always have to deal with so many PEBKAC errors...

      For the non-sysadmins out there:

      PEBKAC = Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair
    3. Re:"SAAD"? by Zugot · · Score: 1

      or the old DIGEX groups:

      POT - Product Operations Team
      DOPE - Department of Product Engineering

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  8. Only problem I see... by heyitsme · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think we should all remind our employers that administrators are people too and proudly wear our buttons bearing "Have you hugged your geek lately?

    Unfortunately, no one would ever see one of these buttons if I wore one, as my company never lets me leave my administrative cave.

    1. Re:Only problem I see... by ZaMoose · · Score: 2

      You have a cave? Lucky guy. It must be quite cool inside.

      We have a poorly-lit room with too-thin walls and a broken air conditioning system. But at least the door locks, which can be helpful for [l]user avoidance.

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    2. Re:Only problem I see... by spencerogden · · Score: 1

      A door? And a lock!?!?... wow

    3. Re:Only problem I see... by LinuxHam · · Score: 2

      You'd love the stint I left to start consulting.. it began as a server room (behind 2 swipe card protected doors) with about 15 of us. Then the room was split in 1/3rd-2/3rds, leaving about 5 of us on 1 side. One by one they all left to join the general population, but I refused to go. Yes, refused. I told them, "if I leave this room, I'm going all the way out the front door." For the last 18 months, my desk the was only one in the server room.. ahh bliss.. just me and about 80 servers.. had the best cubicle in the building. Had my Compaq Insight Manager and Big Brother consoles up all the time.. when the shit hit the fan, I was on it in seconds, which they appreciated.

      People used to ask how I was able to take it down there.. I always replied, "it's great! if I ever want it to be quiet in here, I just stop talking to myself!!" :)

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    4. Re:Only problem I see... by Griffon4 · · Score: 1

      I'm in the server room too, but they stuck a window in my wall so they could see in. I think they want visitors to see the exhibit. Now I just make monkey faces when they walk by.

  9. Nick Burns....you company's computer guy.. by ejaw5 · · Score: 1

    Nick Burns...he'll fix your computer, then he's gonna make fun of you...

    Oh, By the way, YOU'RE WELCOME!!

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  10. What I would like on my day. by Neck_of_the_Woods · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would just like every developer that says "it is a server issue" to be forced to take the "perfect" code they have and submit it to a code review before he/she gets to me. That would be the best present of all. Just so I don't have to spend hours digging into it to prove it was that code, in the process fixing the error, and doing thier job. Wait! I just realized, this may be by design. I can hear my CIO now, "if you have a problem that you can't seem to fix, just upload it into production, blame the server, and force the Admin team to prove you wrong. This will narrow cast your problem, and you can work on something else while they figure it out."

    Interesting.....DING!

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    1. Re:What I would like on my day. by Neck_of_the_Woods · · Score: 2

      I guess that would really just depend on where you work. As we see it here, the developers don't have to work 70 hours a week. They don't get called in the weee hours and have only one project to deal with, maybe 2 if your really pushing it.

      On the other hand, I have to deal with "All of the projects" because they run on the servers. I get the calls at 3am because of not only server issues, line issues, and power issues, but also because of really bad programing.

      Now don't get me started on who has the easy job, because I can tell you from being on both sides which one is easy. If your talking about the sysadmin with less than 20 servers fine, but when your talking about 40+ web servers, 20 more SQL servers(with 2 terra of data), 15 applications servers, backups for all this crap, and 40+ junior developers than think they are senior. Well then you have quite a different story. This is just one of 3 international locations, throw the rest in with VPNs, 2 DS3 lines, 12 T1's, 4 6509's, 4 LoadBalancinging server, 15 smaller switches, a 300 person pbx system, Solaris, Firewalls, routers, I think you are starting to see my point. You get one think to work with and stress over, we get all the rest and your one thing as well.

      Just because you think you have a hard job and we have it easy does not mean it is true. Just because we work hard to get the shit working does not = a cushy job. If I could make the money I do now programing it would not even take me 1/2 second to switch sides. Trust me, the programing part is the best pick when it comes to having a life and a job. At least in my experience. Take it for what it is worth, I am just a gimp and have been wrong before.

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    2. Re:What I would like on my day. by ender- · · Score: 1

      Wow. Because all Admins do all day anyway is just sit around. Probably the most cushiest tech job out there. If something goes wrong, that's when you spring into action.

      I find that it's similar to being a fireman. You sit around all day, watching TV or doing "nothing" [or washing your fire-engine I suppose :)],until something blows up. Then you work your @ss off putting out the 'fire'.

      When things are working as they're supposed to, we sysadmins may not do much. But you'd sure be bummed if we weren't around when the payroll server dies! Besides, we're not REALLY wasting time. All those Quake Deathmatch games are our way of testing the network for latency issues.

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    3. Re:What I would like on my day. by suicidal · · Score: 1

      Or some of us are pro-active. During that "sit-around" time, were planning enhancements to the infrastructure, reviewing/implementing consolidation plans, testing new applications to improve our workflow, learning new skillsets, etc......A matter of attitude I suppose.

    4. Re:What I would like on my day. by Hekman · · Score: 1

      ...or reading /. ... coincidence? I think not.

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    5. Re:What I would like on my day. by I+am+Jack's+username · · Score: 1
      UF 2002-07-25

      The techies who know the passwords here are going for an extended lunch after powering down the servers :)

  11. Appreciation by hesiod · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why is it that any person who can be remotely considered a member of a group has a day for them. I consider myself appreciated every day that the servers don't go down. Just 'cuz it's not said every day doesn't mean I don't "hear" it. Plus, I am shown appreciation every other Friday when money magically appears in my checking account.

    1. Re:Appreciation by Skyshadow · · Score: 5, Funny
      I consider myself appreciated every day that the servers don't go down.

      Really? Personally, I find myself far more appreciated every time the servers *do* go down in flames due to a massive (vendor, contractor or intern-caused) issue that nobody else has a clue about. I can feel the appreciatation radiating off my boss when I tell him that I've used my years of experience and contacts in this-or-that organization to save not only the data of the developers, but also his private image collection.

      Weirdly, these problems seem to crop up just before quarterly reviews. That's when I really feel appreciated.

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    2. Re:Appreciation by mark_lybarger · · Score: 2

      hey now... as a hard working FTE software developer i have also had my hand in some massive system issues (vms page issues due to some c program testing ;)). please don't give the contractors, vendors, and interns all the credit. us FTE's earn our keep as well!!

    3. Re:Appreciation by xtremex · · Score: 1

      What if, you have a fleet of Sun UNIX servers, that never go down, and they just keep you around "just in case"? So, you just read /. all day and get a big fat paycheck every 2 weeks. And, if a server DOES hiccup because a developer feels like deleting the code that was already there, and you fix it in 2 minutes, and nobody sees yuo do it, does it really happen? :)

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    4. Re:Appreciation by nemesisj · · Score: 2

      vendor, contractor or intern-caused

      Oh man, it's so true. I'm interning right now and an extra greedy regular expression I wrote totally hosed our $300,000.00 intranet server. One minute I'm searching and replacing, the next second I'm using 2.5 gigs of RAM, and I get kicked off of my ssh session. Then the box starts to drop pings and the intranet domain goes offline. Talk about adrenaline. Nothing like a good CGI and an extra good intern playing with a Sun box to make the SysAdmin wet himself.

    5. Re:Appreciation by zCyl · · Score: 2

      I have NO free time because I'm always tweaking these damn boxes. Yep.

      Don't forget to oil the cpu and rotate the keyboards at least once a week.

  12. Hugged geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    But system administrators aren't all geeks. They're often Microsoft Certified professionals, which is an entirely different animal!

    1. Re:Hugged geeks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      But system administrators aren't all geeks. They're often Microsoft Certified professionals, which is an entirely different animal!

      you're right!

      there what the rest of us call Posers.

    2. Re:Hugged geeks? by hplasm · · Score: 1

      Who would hug one of them?

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    3. Re:Hugged geeks? by scott1853 · · Score: 2

      According to the website, MS Exchange Administrator is a valid job title to qualify for appreciation day. Of course there should be a requirement that the exchange server not be listed or ordb.org.

    4. Re:Hugged geeks? by numark · · Score: 1

      Of course there should be a requirement that the exchange server not be listed or ordb.org.

      Wait a minute, you mean there actually are exchange servers not on ORDB? Schweet!

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  13. Not december 21? by anticypher · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wouldn't the shortest day of the year be more appropriate?

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    1. Re:Not december 21? by schon · · Score: 2

      Wouldn't the shortest day of the year be more appropriate?

      Actually, I think if you check, you'll find that all days are the same length (24 hours.) :o)

    2. Re:Not december 21? by Merlin42 · · Score: 2

      Actually the first sunday in april has 23 hours ;)

    3. Re:Not december 21? by ceejayoz · · Score: 2

      Flamebait? Okay, that's it... there needs to be a minimum IQ of at least, say, 12, for moderators.

      It refers to this cartoon: http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/02ju l/xuf004464.gif - as stated in the original post! Geez... stupid moderator.

      p.s. UserFriendly rules

  14. What about BOFH by tanveer1979 · · Score: 2

    Lets send him ....... well umm... nothing i want to live more

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  15. Not really created in our honor by Sheepdot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'd like and appreciate the day a LOT more if it wasn't created by a system administrator. No offense, but it doesn't seem like a genuine thank-you if the the only other people that celebrate it are other administrative staff, or if they are only celebrating it because they found the website saying that they should.

    1. Re:Not really created in our honor by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 1

      Well, it had to start somewhere, somehow. If it takes off, like we hope that it should, the original way it started won't be important. Would you be turned off against secretary's day if you found out that a secratary was the one who originally asked for it?

    2. Re:Not really created in our honor by fobbman · · Score: 2

      And all the other holidays that were invented by Hallmark are genuine?

      I'm rarely concerned about the sincerity of the person who brings me pizza unless I think that they might have figured out that I'm the one that altered the entry in their address book for the tight-bodied gal in the mailroom to include their significant other in their mailings to her.

      Maybe my next manager won't question a beer keg being expensed as an "external storage device required for optimal network performance".

    3. Re:Not really created in our honor by tchdab1 · · Score: 1

      True - doesn't matter where it came from. In fact, because it isn't coming from neutral third parties may mean that this appreciation day is even more necessary. Awareness of the need for "geek appreciation" is low.

    4. Re:Not really created in our honor by archen · · Score: 1

      *shug* 'don't look a gift horse in the mouth' as they say. If I come up with "free beer for the IT guy day", I sure as hell won't be complaining because I thought of it and it actually worked.

  16. take note.... by jeffy124 · · Score: 1

    on the page dedicated to the Sysadmin Day, there's a whole list of what qualifies as a Systems Administrator. MSCE is not on the list, though MS Exchange admins are.

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    1. Re:take note.... by jeffy124 · · Score: 1

      dammit.... s/MSCE/MCSE/

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    2. Re:take note.... by thrig · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ehh, MineSweeper Certified Engineer vs. Microsoft Certified Solitare Engineer, what's the difference?

    3. Re:take note.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      well actually, in my mind, M$ types are NOT sysadmins...

      jesus, you can click start/help or some shite like that

      if you can't truss and app or use pstack to debug, read a man page, well, you get the picture, right ?

      hehe, not trying to start any holy wars here.

      not that I could, most NT types are smart enough to just shut up when they realize they're in the midst of us Unix-God types ;-)

      -polgonepostal....

  17. I agree by ProfBooty · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really, do we have a CEO appreciaton day for all their hard work? Do we have a janitor appreciation day for thanking the janitor for cleaning up after us? Do we have a dentist appreciation day for the dental work they do?

    You get paid a salary to provide a service, that should be enough compensation. Heck I'm an engineer, wheres the engineer appreciation day? No thanks for all the technology which was devleloped by scientists and engineers to provide sys-admins jobs? ;)

    this isn't really news-worthy, but i do find it funny.

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    1. Re:I agree by ProfBooty · · Score: 1

      then find a new job if you aren't happy. find something in a different area, go back to school

      life is too short to be unhappy. considering you spend more waking hours at work than you do with your friends(assuming they dont work with you) children, wives etc, you should get a job you enjoy.

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    2. Re:I agree by Anonymous+Cowrad · · Score: 1

      "No thanks for all the technology which was devleloped by scientists and engineers to provide sys-admins jobs? ;)"

      You guys get to unleash problems on the world, sysadmins are the ones that have to deal with them.

      Oh, and I appreciate our janitors every day.

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    3. Re:I agree by rmadmin · · Score: 1

      1: Secretaries get their own day!! =/ (Our secretaries aren't very pleasant)

      2: Mothers get their own day, and to me, my systems are my babies. So my employers don't have to do anything, I'll just set up a few cron jobs (at would work better), to just write my terminal a few times saying 'Thank you for taking care of me'.

    4. Re:I agree by ZaMoose · · Score: 2

      You should come work for Lockheed. We have an Engineer Appreciation Day 'round here.

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    5. Re:I agree by ProfBooty · · Score: 2

      whoops, i misread the other post, sorry!

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    6. Re:I agree by mike77 · · Score: 1
      Really, do we have a CEO appreciaton day for all their hard work?

      SURE!!! well, they don't get one now, but I'll bet soon. And as part of the celebration, congress is giving them a vacation to go to DC and learn all about how the committee investigation process works!

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    7. Re:I agree by Boone^ · · Score: 2

      But we as engineers get engineers week! Let the sys-admins have their day basking in the sound of 10,000 80mm fans blowing. :)

    8. Re:I agree by sharkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      Really, do we have a CEO appreciaton day for all their hard work?

      Good idea. We should. Those chairs don't stay moist on their own, you know.

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    9. Re:I agree by BigGiantRobot · · Score: 1

      Ya gotta understand, it's borne out of the same principles as Secretaries (oops! I mean "Adminsistrative Assistants." Sorry! My Bad!) Day. Which is to say, the company has this odd little dead-end branch on its corporate tree, the denizens of which really can't move up anyplace. It's not that they don't do their jobs, they do them just fine -- just with a bizarrely out-of-whack sense of their own importance, with the commensurate surly and condescending attitudes to match (witness the buffoonery about forgetting users' passwords in this very thread). You don't want to pay them any more, lest they start making more than the employees who actually produce something tangible and contribute to the corporation's bottom line, but you don't want to piss them off either, because they always make a point of creating (and paranoidly guarding) their wacky and personalized systems (for what should be cookie-cutter procedures across all US companies), so it becomes a real hassle to replace them. "OK, how 'bout we give them their Own Holiday, order up some flowers, and maybe take them to lunch!" "Yeah, that's the ticket!" "I don't want to take him to lunch; you take him to lunch." "Um, OK, but you take him next year..."

    10. Re:I agree by chris_mahan · · Score: 1

      OK. All female sysasmins get their day.

      No hugs, however, (see H.R. Directive 69)

      No flowers. Cash only.

      No cards with flowers.

      Hardware gifts only from male sysadmins.

      Male sysadmins get to buy hardware for female sysadmins. That should make everyone happy :)

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      "Piter, too, is dead."

    11. Re:I agree by susano_otter · · Score: 2

      CEOs are part of an elite upper class that has no need for plebeian "appreciation days". They get extensive perks, rather impressive salaries, and golden parachutes. More often than not, they have great responsibilities as well (our CEO has been entrusted with a $12 billion war chest, and a mandate from the board to spend that money on dominating 10 new markets in the next 3-5 years). When they perform well, I imagine CEOs receive tokens of appreciation far beyond what us grunts could ever imagine. Even when they do poorly, they still enjoy better benefits than the rest of the company. "CEO Appreciation Day". What a joke.

      --

      Any sufficiently well-organized community is indistinguishable from Government.

    12. Re:I agree by AA0 · · Score: 1

      yes, I myself can not wait for welfare appreciation day.

  18. Right on! by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 2
    Sysadmins are the oil the make everything run smoothly (except in cases where they are defective, of course.)

    Having worked with many over the years (and having a father who was one for a 20k+ user network for ~25 years) I know a little of the trouble that these people put up with. The devil-possessed clueless users hounding them about problems reading e-mail and how the printer is not working. The enverending department computer inventory cataloging project. The revolutionary updates to the system snuffed by the managers in the ivory tower who don't know what they're killing. The triple booked lab coverage at the same time someone infects the network with a few worms and the UPS on the server starts to whine.

    And people accuse admins of being detached, stuffy people who treat their users with disdain.

    APPRECIATE YOUR ADMIN. </rant>

  19. Pardon? by Fogbank · · Score: 1

    After seeing a poster of a sysadm bombarded with WHAT?

    The only way for a sysadm to get a present is writing "rm -r /*" at the prompt and hovering the middle finger over the return key while looking at his employer and saying: "Won't you give me a pwesent, pwetty pwease?"

    --
    Ciao,
    Foggy
  20. Thank you by Digiover · · Score: 1

    "Say thank you to the poor sysadmin"... Think I'll have to buy my own cake on Friday, a big thank you to me ;-)

  21. What about the underappreciated Lighthouse Keepers by hoggoth · · Score: 1

    Having a day for SysAdmins is all well and good, but what about the underappreciated Lighthouse Keepers?
    These heros of coastal safety never get thanked!
    Let's start a movement to create a "day" for those lonely Lighthouse Keepers!

    --
    - For the complete works of Shakespeare: cat /dev/random (may take some time)
  22. Re:How do you know? by aonaran · · Score: 1

    That's because MSNBC is cached on Akamai servers
    http://www.akamai.com/en/html/services/so lution_ms nbc.html ...no matter how hard they try and how much they deny it, MS just can't stay away from Linux :)

  23. We already have geek appreciation day... by hex1848 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Its called payday, happens every other friday...

    1. Re:We already have geek appreciation day... by Flower · · Score: 5, Funny

      You obviously have never seen my check.

      --
      I don't want knowledge. I want certainty. - Law, David Bowie
    2. Re:We already have geek appreciation day... by RedWolves2 · · Score: 1

      Yeah no shit! Some appreciation that is!!!

    3. Re:We already have geek appreciation day... by Aerog · · Score: 2

      What? You get paid on time? Every other Friday over here is "Screw Over The Computer Guy" day. Maybe I'll get paid by the following friday. . . . .maybe.

      I can't wait to finish my degree so I can be rid of the summer-student syndrome. It's no secret I'm the only one in the building who has any clue at all as to how the website works, where stuff is stored, how to defrag a hard drive, how to scan for a virus, how to be the only person in the office to NOT get an e-mail virus. . . .oh well. Only another month and a half.

      --

      - Relativistic? That's barely Newtonian!
    4. Re:We already have geek appreciation day... by sean23007 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, actually, you only ever see it right after I'm done with it. By the way, thanks. ;)

      --

      Lack of eloquence does not denote lack of intelligence, though they often coincide.
    5. Re:We already have geek appreciation day... by pokeyburro · · Score: 2

      Yes, obviously in many people's cases, every other Friday is SysAdmin Depreciation Day.

      --
      Lately democracy seems to be based on the skybox, the Happy Meal box, the X-box, and the idiot box.
    6. Re:We already have geek appreciation day... by egreB · · Score: 1

      ..you have to defrag harddrives? You have to scan for viruses? That would imply that the other sysadmins are MSCE or something, and should not, according to the website linked to in the story, be appriciated on Friday..

    7. Re:We already have geek appreciation day... by restive · · Score: 1

      WHAT?!!! We're supposed to get paid for this job???!!!

  24. Blah. by SimplyCosmic · · Score: 2

    Just what I need, another day for the system administrators here to claim all the glory, when I as a lowly telephone tech support person have to take all the angry calls when the paper MCSEs here screw up the email, web proxy and other servers.

    Blah ... I'd say more but the phone's ringing and it's probably another corporate executive who can't find the "on" button again. :P

    1. Re:Blah. by ZaMoose · · Score: 2

      Hey, at least you're not a 911 operator, fielding "support" calls from WebTV boxes...

      --
      I wish I had a kryptonite cross, because then you could keep Dracula and Superman away.
  25. What about the rest of us by xbrownx · · Score: 1

    When is the Helpdesk Appreciation Day?

    1. Re:What about the rest of us by xbrownx · · Score: 1

      You should meet our Network and Novell admins

      Phones and Supports guys 9 times outta 10 have to diagnose the problems for them, we have the talent in the wrong areas here :)

    2. Re:What about the rest of us by shadowsong · · Score: 1

      What? you don't feel appreciated by all the attention you receive from users? The whines of "the printers are down" and "my webmail isn't working" do not fall like a glorious symphony on your ears? Ungrateful cur!

  26. Solstice by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

    I'm pretty sure it's December 22. June 21 is the longest. We have this nice odd-numbered year, so things don't divide as nicely as they might. According to my calender and my other pagan friends and whatnot. I was born on midsummer. it's all very nice.

    1. Re:Solstice by gfxguy · · Score: 1

      Usually it's December 21, sometimes December 22. Of course, if you live in the southern hemisphere... June 21 and sometimes June 22.

      --
      Stupid sexy Flanders.
    2. Re:Solstice by Plutor · · Score: 1

      In fact, the shortest day of the year in the Northern hemisphere oscillates regularly between December 21 and 22. This page has a table of the soltices up to 2009.

  27. maybe by digitalsushi · · Score: 2

    maybe there are stupid appreciation days for people whose jobs are being done perfectly when no one notices them, and failure otherwise. sales guys get to yell "i got the soandso account". sysadmins dont get to yell "hey another 16 hour day of cleaning up digicrap and no one noticed the massive changes i made". tech support people should have a day too, if they dont have one. actually i like the idea where there's no apprecation days. everyones got it right with the paycheck thing. but i'm just saying, maybe its for the people that only get spoken to when something broke, not when something went right. its grating on the soul when the only people that talk to you are angry.

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    slashdot: where everyone yells sarcastic metaphors to themselves to understand the issue
  28. Downtime during partying? by jforman · · Score: 1

    But what happens when all the sysadmins take the day off to celebrate their geekdom?

    I can see the headlines now "World comes to a halt because no geek around to press control-alt-delete"

    1. Re:Downtime during partying? by xtremex · · Score: 1

      Hmmm..I never have to press ctrl-alt-del..I'm a UNIX admin...The MCSEs at the company do that....

      --
      If you're not a Liberal in your 20's, then you have no heart.If you're still a Liberal in your 30's you have no brain.
  29. Only hugged? by Moderation+abuser · · Score: 2

    How else are we supposed to get laid?

    --
    Government of the people, by corporate executives, for corporate profits.
  30. Danm! by wbattestilli · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just told my wife about this and explained that I needed some recognition for the 6 machine LAN that I admin in our home. She laughed at me.

    If my wife reacts like that, I'd hate to see your boss.

  31. Hmmm.... by WirelessFreak · · Score: 1

    I can almost hear the Budweiser commercial for this one! :-)

    1. Re:Hmmm.... by zangdesign · · Score: 2

      I was thinking a Mike's Hard Lemonade commercial instead.

      You know, where the server says it's going to go bits-up in 10 minutes ...

      --
      To celebrate the occasion of my 1000th post, I will post no more forever on Slashdot. Goodbye.
    2. Re:Hmmm.... by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      Or a Southwest Airlines commercial...

      Especially after the Sysadmin finishes cleaning up after the "Pink Slip" worm!

      --
      Fascism starts when the efficiency of the government becomes more important than the rights of the people.
  32. *** OR *** by MissMyNewton · · Score: 1

    you could simply take pride in a job well done.

    --

    ---

    Information wants...you to shut your pie hole.

    1. Re:*** OR *** by Matthaeus · · Score: 2

      you could simply take pride in a job well done.

      I had a door that did that once. Never stopped talking about it, in fact. I couldn't stand it. Sold it to a robot company. The rest is history.

  33. Cash by EvilBudMan · · Score: 1

    Cash would be a nice gift. Is anyone listening?

  34. Perfect gift by Quantum+Singularity · · Score: 1

    My perfect gift would be the right to replace the users with shell scripts for the day. *nix is more reliable :)

    1. Re:Perfect gift by xtremex · · Score: 1

      Heh...thats's funny....actually..on my home network...the tasks that people did at my last company ARE performed by shells scripts. I have a battery of shell scripts that I've collected over the years

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      If you're not a Liberal in your 20's, then you have no heart.If you're still a Liberal in your 30's you have no brain.
  35. WTF?? by SN74S181 · · Score: 1

    Why would we 'apprciate' that greasy little dork? He hasn't changed the toner cartridge in the LJ4 up on third floor yet! Hop to it, 'admin' boy! Then Doris needs you to defrag her drive again and you can help Nancy get her machine back on the LAN.

    If you get it all done by noon we'll pool our money and buy you a Hostess DingDong.

    1. Re:WTF?? by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 1

      Well, if Doris and Nancy are cute little secretaries that won't mind hugging a 'admin boy', I'll be willing to do all that work.... Hey, I'd even think of taking a shower and shaving for a change ;-)

    2. Re:WTF?? by xtremex · · Score: 1

      I don't think a sysadmin is SUPPOSED to defrag a user's drive...In all the years I've been a sysadmin, I NEVER touched the user's computers. I keep the UNIX machines running. Help desk or the MCSE's defrag user's hard drives.

      --
      If you're not a Liberal in your 20's, then you have no heart.If you're still a Liberal in your 30's you have no brain.
  36. Vacation times by Stackster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Couldn't they have placed that day sometime else? Right now, 90% of the people working here are on vacation. Just the sysadmin is at work, as usual. (Actually, I went on vacation before everybody else, so now when I'm back, it's more or less a couple of weeks of vacation-at-work.)

    --

    There are 010 kinds of people. Those who understand octal, those who don't, and 06 other kinds of morons.
    1. Re:Vacation times by DarkMan · · Score: 2

      Right now, 90% of the people working here are on vacation.

      And your complaining because?

  37. I think this is great! by horrrosss · · Score: 1

    This is just fabulous! It'd be really quite nice to get a "Thank you" every now and then. I just love it when people call and say "there's something wrong with my computer", I fix it while they do something else, and mention to the employee on my way out, "Oh, you'r computer's fixed now". All I ever get is "Oh, good". How about a bloody thank you once in a while?!

    /me settles down

    Just my typical luck that I'm on my vacation at the moment. If I'd been working, I would have sent out an e-mail saying "Ok, here's the deal, people. Either you thank me for doing such a fabulous work NOW, or I'll pull the plug on the ATM and lock the door".

    Stupid vacation. I might even have had some fun.

  38. Oh please! by DearSlashdot · · Score: 1, Insightful
    I am really tired of hearing all these IT people whine about "I don't get no respect." How about giving respect to others first? We're quick to laugh at/demean users and lusers and AOLusers and anyone else who we feel like (ala Nick Burns), but then demand respect.

    As a DBA, I don't depend upon thanks or respect or whatever. If I'm doing my job right, no one notices. As it should be. In other jobs, a lot of people work for little recognition and little money. So I'm not complaining. If you're into IT for the glory, you're going to be disappointed.

    --

    "Why should we leave America to go to America Junior?" - H. Simpson, on visiting Canada
    1. Re:Oh please! by ZaMoose · · Score: 2

      If you're into IT for the glory, you're going to be disappointed.

      Then, what you're saying is that my guidance counselor was a lying sack of crap...

      --
      I wish I had a kryptonite cross, because then you could keep Dracula and Superman away.
  39. My uptime champion is gone. by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    It had a panic a month ago after another admin commented out some functions in the /etc/inetd.conf, and kill -HUP'd the inet daemon. Too bad. The little Sun E450's uptime was over 1000 days, which dates its last reboot as before Y2K. The firmare is still dated from 1997.

    Bless its little kernel. We're finally getting a backup box for it. We couldn't patch it before because there wasn't a test/dev environment. And we didn't want to bring it down, because it served a critical production function. HA!

    Having boxes that are caught up in politics really makes a sysadmin's job tough. Even worse is politics, and no money!

    1. Re:My uptime champion is gone. by caluml · · Score: 1

      So go on, enlighten me.
      I've not worked on a 450, but I fail to see why commenting out anything in inetd.conf would cause a kernel panic and lose you your uptime.

    2. Re:My uptime champion is gone. by Zugot · · Score: 1

      I didn't read kernel panic. I read that he had a panic when another sysadmin screwed up /etc/inetd.conf.

      But another thing 450s have serial consoles. This really shouldn't of have been a big deal.

      --
      -- Bryan
    3. Re:My uptime champion is gone. by laserjet · · Score: 2

      Well, he did say that they did kill the inetd daemon.

      While you are correct that this shouldn't kill the box, maybe he meant uptime as in being able to login and use the system, not uptime as we know it. If inetd was not running, that could certainly cause some problems.

      Or, maybe he came from the Microsoft side and just decided to reboot instead of restarting inetd. You be the judge.

      --
      Moon Macrosystems. Sun's biggest competitor.
    4. Re:My uptime champion is gone. by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 2

      Actually, it was a HUP on the inet daemon, and it was a kernel panic that quickly followed.

      It was bugid #4178455 "recursive mutex_enbter panic in TCP Streams device driver" which was found by the kernel engineer when I sent the core dump and explorer script output. This problem was fixed with patch number 105529-07.

    5. Re:My uptime champion is gone. by caluml · · Score: 1

      Well, that answers my question.

      It's still a pretty lame excuse as to why an decent OS running on decent hardware should kernel panic. (I mean an excuse by the OS manufacturer, not you)

      Even 3/4 years ago. (Can't remember what year you said you last booted it)

  40. But but but!! It's the school holidays!!! by ngtni · · Score: 1

    I'm the system administrator for a large school, and all the pupils and teaching staff are off in July and August.... that's 1300 users! The only ones in to celebrate my day with me are the 5 technicians and the caretakers!!!

    I'm sure other schools/colleges/etc are in the same position as mine (closed during July and August).

    Can't we move System Administrator Appreciation Day forward two months?!!? Please?!!!! :)

    1. Re:But but but!! It's the school holidays!!! by Rick_T · · Score: 2

      > I'm sure other schools/colleges/etc are in the
      > same position as mine (closed during July and
      > August).

      K-12 schools, maybe. Most colleges and universities in my experience run all year with two weeks or so downtime in December near the Christmas holidays.

      At least I'm fairly certain that I was teaching a freshman chemistry class this morning until about 11:20. :)

      --
      -- Rick
  41. Ideas by af_robot · · Score: 1

    I think we should all remind our employers that administrators are people too...

    Here is a way to do it fast:
    Just redirected all http requests to your own intranet page with BIG FLASHING banner, asking to greet us with sysadmin day and add such line to every incoming email.. I'm sure that soon everyone will notice your existence :)
    Otherwise unplug from network users who did not greet you well...

  42. Not all of us have PHB's.. by Havokmon · · Score: 2
    Some of us just have disciples.

    Yes, you too may now bow before me. :P

    --
    "I can't give you a brain, so I'll give you a diploma" - The Great Oz (blatently stolen sig)
    1. Re:Not all of us have PHB's.. by xtremex · · Score: 1

      Exactly..the last company I worked for KNEW better than to have a BOSS hover over us....there was an IT Director but he NEVER even went near us...he knew we knew our jobs, that's why he hired us...so he wouldnt HAVE to hover over us...

      --
      If you're not a Liberal in your 20's, then you have no heart.If you're still a Liberal in your 30's you have no brain.
  43. Cold Sweat by ch-chuck · · Score: 2

    What you get during the morning sysadmin appreciation day cake and ice cream when you realize you forgot to reset the software dead man's switch for that day.

    --
    try { do() || do_not(); } catch (JediException err) { yoda(err); }
  44. Whah??? by Observer · · Score: 2, Funny
    "Have you hugged your geek lately?"
    Is this some new variant of "embrace and extend" that we must guard against?
  45. Re:I agree - YES, CEO appreciation day! by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 4, Funny

    Really, do we have a CEO appreciaton day for all their hard work?

    Yes. Every freaking day they climb into the company jet, or the stock goes up a tiny bit and they are worth millions more, all the catered lunches, just about every freaking moment.

    I think, in fact, a CEO non-appreciation day would be quite the event, where a CEO is treated just like any other employee. He has to get his own coffee. Field his own calls. Make his own travel reservations and fly coach to his luxurious golf trip / business meetings.

  46. Special thanks for.. by imta11 · · Score: 1

    Taking away access to the machine I use.
    E-mailing useless information.
    Patching my machine when I want to code.
    The list really could go on forever.

  47. Re:What about the underappreciated Lighthouse Keep by idontneedanickname · · Score: 1

    Yes, lets thank all those computers that make the harbours safe! They put so much effort into it. Countless hours of watching over the children of the sea coming back to dry land!

  48. Re:I agree - YES, CEO appreciation day! by xtremex · · Score: 1

    I used to be president of a company a few years ago...I got my own coffee..I did all the crap I had to do myself...why? Because I was a regular employee once and am now. Head of a company does not mean you get to have servants around you....it's not royalty!

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    If you're not a Liberal in your 20's, then you have no heart.If you're still a Liberal in your 30's you have no brain.
  49. Re:I agree - YES, CEO appreciation day! by AtariDatacenter · · Score: 1

    Head of a company does not mean you get to have servants around you....it's not royalty!

    Must have been a small company? Once you have 1,000 employees, you are royalty. At least, so it would seem.

  50. I could use some appreciation. by Kernel+Panic · · Score: 1

    I'll take appreciation as a systems administrator any day now...Cuz that means someone put my previous employer back in business and I have a job again...

    Guess I'll have to wait for unemployed systems administrator appreciation day. I've got my button already:
    "Have you hired your systems administrator today?"

    Beyond that, I don't need any other appreciation, a paycheck would be fine by me.

    --
    No datacenter is secure if it has windows.
  51. Ain't gonna happen by wirefarm · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, sure, the people in your company are going to suddenly going to buy you lunch because you got their printer working or reset their password. Sure.
    Maybe you'll get some half-dead flowers from the cheap florist on the corner or some inane computer-related doo-dad from Office Depot. ("Look! a mouse cover that looks like, get this: a MOUSE!")
    Good God, I want a sysadmin day where users just LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE. It's bad enough that I eat my pathetic convenience store sandwich at my desk while trying to watch a downloaded divx of futurama, but some moron, seeing me with my headphones on and half a sandwich in my hand has got to come over and ask for me to print a document or fix her excel macros or update the company web page. ("Nobody's hit the Investor Relations page in a week, I *think* your updates can wait twenty goddamn minutes...")

    But yet, if you send them away, you'll pay later...

    The best thing to do is to take quiet revenge. Turn off the proxy server. Randomly delete mails with attached spreadsheets. Write perl scripts to rewrite outgoing mails (s/the/teh/g) and on incoming mails as well (s/Regards,/I find you strangely attractive,/g)
    Send a company-wide notice that the router that handles internet browsing will be down from 2:00 to 4:00 pm for an "LRF Support Module" upgrade. (LRF = Little Rubber Feet.) Then take those two hours to download ISO after ISO of whatever the hell you like.
    Subscribe everyone in the company to bugtraq - for security's sake...
    Find new and creative uses for /dev/null
    When you are asked to push back your vacation a few days, wait until after and let it slip to your boss know that you were supposed to be the Best Man at your brother's wedding, but instead spent that Saturday restoring the backup domain controller.
    Nope, you ain't gonna get a day - even if you did, you wouldn't enjoy it. Make your own fun...

    Cheers,
    Jim in Tokyo

    --
    -- My Weblog.
    1. Re:Ain't gonna happen by slashhax0r · · Score: 1

      Lol .. actually one of the higher ups in our organization is doing just that (buy us pizza on friday because me smoothy transitioned their office moves).. now. maybe she doesnt know aobut sys admin day, but hey.. We can dream!!!

    2. Re:Ain't gonna happen by garett_spencley · · Score: 2

      Write perl scripts to rewrite outgoing mails (s/the/teh/g) and on incoming mails as well (s/Regards,/I find you strangely attractive,/g)

      Hah that's priceless! I'm thinking of doing just this to a co-worker for kicks. I figure it will be much safer to do this to e-mails comming to the user (so he doesn't get in trouble) rather than the converse.

      So here's a script for all you lazy admins ;)

      It's up to you to configure your sendmail.cf though.

      #!/usr/bin/perl

      use strict;

      my %words = (
      "^((Regards|Sincerely|Thanks|Peace|Cya),)" =>
      "I find you strangely attractive,",
      "\\s+the\\s+" => " teh ",
      "\\s+and\\s+" => " adn "
      );

      # Expression to match victim's e-mail address

      my $victim = "(user|fname.lname)\@domain.tld";

      my @lines = <STDIN>;

      # Make sure the e-mail is going to the user.
      # If it is not just output the e-mail un-changed.

      foreach my $l (@lines) {
      if($l =~ /(To|CC):/) {
      if(!($l =~ /$victim/i)) {
      foreach my $lin (@lines) {
      print $lin;
      }
      exit 0;
      }
      }
      }

      # Now re-write the e-mail

      foreach my $line (@lines) {
      foreach my $expr (keys %words) {
      $line =~ /$expr/$words{$expr}/ig;
      }
      print $line;
      }

      --
      Garett

  52. Re:Filter this ascii art 8====D head by coastwalker · · Score: 1

    You may have a point. Strikes me that Sysamin day is likely to be greeted with the same kind of appreciation that "Estate agent day" or "Tax collector day".

    This would certainly be the case for any business that I have worked for, as the main role of the other company that the Sysadmin works for seems to be to deny services.

    Things have moved on since the days of the punch card fed data center maybe. But looking at the syllabus for computer science courses it strikes me that things are starting badly when 50% of them are about security and just slightly more than a gnats whisker is about capture and analysis of user requirements.

    Of course the value for money culture doesnt help, we dont know what they do so lets sack as many as possible and see if the lights go out.....

    --
    Facts are history now plebs have politics for religion on social media.
  53. No way by Silverhammer · · Score: 2

    My sysadmin doesn't deserve any appreciation. He's an incompetent boob who should have been replaced years ago. Unfortunately, we can't replace him because he's got the network so screwed up that no one else could ever figure it out.

    Mind you, I'm not the only one who feels this way. This isn't a personal grudge. All of my coworkers get the same defeated look whenever they are forced to deal with him. More projects and initiatives than I can count have been abandoned in midstream, because the sysadmin either put up too many roadblocks or broke an important bit of code or whatever.

    The rest of the company has learned to work around him, but I am beligerant enough -- even after two and a half years here -- to really call him out. I've spent hours watching over his shoulder, pointing out his mistakes, whenever he tries to screw with my Web servers. He has finally come to understand that I am one of the few people here that he can't afford to cross, because he knows that I know just how bad he truly is and that when the real business decisions (priorities, budgets) get made, I now have far more pull than him.

    1. Re:No way by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 1

      Either
      1.) your are a sniviling loser
      or 2.) your company has no upper management whatsoever

      Either way, it's pathetic. If it's 2.) I guarantee you any good network engineer can fix whatever the hell is wrong, and train a new and more competent sysadmin to do their job properly. Hell, I've been doing that for yers.

      If it's 1.), get a life. You attitude certianly is not helping matters. And if you can do so without whining, your supervisor should be made aware of 2.) in a tadctful yet forceful way it gets handled.

      Or go get a job somewhere else. Shouldn't be a problem....you think you're supergeek....go proove it.

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    2. Re:No way by Silverhammer · · Score: 2

      It's #2. And no, I'm not saying that to cover my own ass. We really are a pathetic little shithole of a company.

      I'm curious, though -- why am I a sniveling loser for complaining about an incompetent sysadmin? Pointless ranting is the traditional pasttime of Slashdotters everywhere. I still manage to do my own job in spite of him, and I frequently put in extra hours to clean up after him. What makes him so sacred while the management (or marketing or human resources or whatever) is fair game?

      It just goes to illustrate just how weenie the whole idea is. Sysadmins do not deserve special appreciation because they are just as fallible as everyone else.

    3. Re:No way by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 1

      I'm curious, though -- why am I a sniveling loser for complaining about an incompetent sysadmin? Pointless ranting is the traditional pasttime of Slashdotters everywhere.

      You've answered your own question. Not all of us get on here to bitch.

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    4. Re:No way by Silverhammer · · Score: 2
      You've answered your own question. Not all of us get on here to bitch.

      Bullshit. That's the raison d'etre of Slashdot, to give holier-than-thou geeks and Linux snobs a place to congregate and complain. Taco says as much in his FAQ. You're just pissed off because I'm complaining about a fellow techie, rather than blaming it all on the Man.

    5. Re:No way by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 1

      Damn the man. Damn the man brother.

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  54. email has been sent by jglow · · Score: 1

    a company wide email has just been sent to everyone in my company reminding them that Friday is SysAdmin day! (I'm sure they all remembered anyway)

    I look forward to pulling into the parking lot Friday morning to see my new car waiting for me.

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    There's no "I" in Linux.. err..
  55. Yeah, I got yer appreciation... RIGHT HERE! by nobodyman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The majority of sysadmins that I've worked with have been almost carbon copies of "Nick, your company's computer guy": rude, arrogant, impatient, and unresponsive. Many forget that it is their job to fix computers and feel they should be begged and groveled upon.

    The sysadmin is the mechanic of the 21st century. You are not a god because you spent 3 weeks getting your a+ certification. Your one year at a tech school does not compare to the 4-year degrees of the people you serve.

    Try earning your appreciation, rather than declaring your own holiday.

    1. Re:Yeah, I got yer appreciation... RIGHT HERE! by toneroo · · Score: 1

      I would guess that if you treated all the Sys Admins that have "served you" with this kind of "respect", you're getting exactly what you deserve. The last job I had had too many users like you, so I quit. I don't "serve" anyone. I do my job and I do it well. I treat everyone I help with the respect they deserve, and they treat me with respect. Other than making making me a pompus braggart, what good would a 4-year degree have done me? When I was in University in the late 80's, there was no Microsoft Windows (well there was but it was even crappier than it is now). There was no public Internet, no web servers to manage, no e-mail. I would have had to go to school to keep up with these technologies anyway. I didn't waste 4 years of my life learning a bunch of theoretical crap, I learned how to use computers and how to treat people. Two things you obviously missed out on.

    2. Re:Yeah, I got yer appreciation... RIGHT HERE! by Pyramid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      SysAdmin's aren't born being Nick Burns, they're slowly transformed.

      Usually they start out being the plucky, helpful guy who works his ass off to solve your problems. Slowly, the years of fixing the same problems for the same users takes it's toll. The plucky fellow tried his damnedest to teach the Luser how to use their computer more efficiently, but they just don't want to learn. "I'll just keep doing it the way I've always done it and bitch when things (predictably) fuck up", says the Luser.

      You see, it *is* the Admin's job to fix computers, but babysitting arses who don't give a rat's ass about their job or anyone else's, isn't.

      The SysAdmin may be the mechanic of the 21st century, but just like his "olden days" counterpart, he's stuck trying to make the shoddy technology those "I have a four year degree, I don't need to debug, I'm invincable" pricks have unleashed upon us.

      For every A+ toting, MCSE waving wannabe, there's an army of competent individuals working in the background to keep those NT boxes, Unix machines, Netware servers, bizarre networks, crappy windows workstations full of dancing baby screen savers, phone systems and hoards of damned legacy software you were too cheap to upgrade working as YOU SPECIFIED so you can bitch when the *SHITTY CODE* you inserted into the production server without permission kills the database for a day.

      That's why Admins guard root like it's the Arch of the Covenant; if they don't, some consultant twit or cocky developer will invariably fuck something up 4 o'clock on a Friday evening and leave without telling anyone.

      It's one thing to do one's job, but an entirely different ball of wax to constantly clean up everyone else's messes and get no credit for it.

      How about next time you infect your PC by installing some retarded waving flag applet, your admin just says, "I told you so" and instructs you to fuck off when you call him over and over again?

      Cheers

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    3. Re:Yeah, I got yer appreciation... RIGHT HERE! by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

      Too many sysadmins think that the computer systems drive the company, when the computers are really nothing more than tools to support the company objectives. If more sysadmins knew ANYTHING about business, they might be less arrogant and better at their jobs.

      They also need to understand that the above means you actually have to do things off-hours because nobody gives a shit why you have the reboot the servers in the middle of the day (because of a patch that you're too lazy to handle after everyone leaves or ...gasp.... early in the morning).

      And, my god....being disturbrd at your desk during lunch! No employee except for a sysadmin has EVER had to deal with anything like that before.

      Big headed sysadmins need to go get their heads screwed back on and they might just earn their way into an engineering or management position some day. Sysadmin is NOT a career destination....sorry to have to inform you all of that.

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    4. Re:Yeah, I got yer appreciation... RIGHT HERE! by hammerm · · Score: 1

      I completely agree.

      Network/Computer Monkeys, as I like to call them, don't deserve respect, much less appreciation, because most of them don't respect users.

      As a developer, I'd like to see software evolve to a point where their job is as obsolete as the guy that runs the elevator.

      As a geek, I hate iconic network monkeys being lumped in with more respectable and useful computer people.

      Thanks for nothing.

    5. Re:Yeah, I got yer appreciation... RIGHT HERE! by corrosiv · · Score: 1


      Get a new job, dude

    6. Re:Yeah, I got yer appreciation... RIGHT HERE! by ph0rk · · Score: 1



      Lack of planning on your part does not, nor will it ever, constitute an emergency on my part.

      arse.

      also: i develop more than i administrate, but i find your attitude ugly.

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    7. Re:Yeah, I got yer appreciation... RIGHT HERE! by toneroo · · Score: 1

      As a developer you must also know that without your buggy, insecure code we wouldn't have jobs. Thank-you for my job, I know I'll have it for many years to come.

    8. Re:Yeah, I got yer appreciation... RIGHT HERE! by toneroo · · Score: 1

      If becoming an engineer or manager means having a rude, holier-than-thou attitude like yours, I'll keep my lowly sys admin job. Oh, and by the way I gave up my management job to do the work I'm doing today.

    9. Re:Yeah, I got yer appreciation... RIGHT HERE! by rodgerd · · Score: 2

      Here's a suggestion: write software that doesn't need a sysadmin. Oh, that's right. Fuckwad develeopers with 4 year degrees can't even write software that compiles cleanly.

    10. Re:Yeah, I got yer appreciation... RIGHT HERE! by Pyramid · · Score: 1

      "Too many sysadmins think that the computer systems drive the company, when the computers are really nothing more than tools to support the company objectives. If more sysadmins knew ANYTHING about business, they might be less arrogant and better at their jobs."

      I would counter that if more arrogant primadonna types would take the time to actually learn how to use the tools given them, more sysadmins wouldn't be so damn uptight.

      I would wager that for every SysAdmin type that is clueless about business, there's an MBA/manager type that's equally lost. You know, the ones who think it's smart to cut training to make the books look better?

      "They also need to understand that the above means you actually have to do things off-hours because nobody gives a shit why you have the reboot the servers in the middle of the day (because of a patch that you're too lazy to handle after everyone leaves or ...gasp.... early in the morning). "

      This is a gross stereotype and the exact reason many admin's feel a little abused. You have no idea how often the admin works wierd hours because you only see him and bitch when there's a problem. There were many times I stayed late, came in at 3 a.m., or in the case of a catastrophic failure, worked 24 hrs. straight, only to get bitched at by the resident primadonna when I asked to go home and, *surprise*, SLEEP!

      The vast majority of the time, when there was a failure or down time during business hours, it was because someone else screwed something up. I took great pride in making the systems I was responsible for hum flawlessly; it's a bitter pill to swollow when a developer kills a machine you had up to a 2 year uptime and you get chewed out while said dev. snuck out for the weekend. Why be bitter over that?

      "And, my god....being disturbrd at your desk during lunch! No employee except for a sysadmin has EVER had to deal with anything like that before. "

      It happens, sure. But how 'bout EVERY FRIIGIN' DAY? Or being told that you can't go out for lunch (ever) because "we need you to stay here"? Lunch time is for (get this) eating lunch. Why is it so difficult for managers to understand that Computer Admin types have the same basic requirements for food and sleep that everyone else has? It's the assholes who refer to the SysAdmins and "Monkeys" who make the job so damn stressful.

      "Big headed sysadmins need to go get their heads screwed back on and they might just earn their way into an engineering or management position some day. Sysadmin is NOT a career destination....sorry to have to inform you all of that"

      Many of us have no desire to be management. A great many are INTPs or ENTPs (go read up on Jungian Psych) and really aren't motivated to manage people. We derive satisfaction in a job well done (pride) and are inspired by the theoretical, not the size of our cars.

      The line between Engineering and "SysAdmin" work is so blurry that only the clueless, self important jackholes can't see it. When Engineering and I.T. work together, the whole company is more productive. Be thankful there are people who actually enjoy tweaking the systems you rely on to DO YOUR JOB.

      I bet if you show them a bit of kindness and respect, you'll find they're O.K. folks. Treat them like crap and you deserve whatever they dish out to you.

      Pyramid

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      ~Any apparent grammatical or typographic errors are caused by defects in your display device.
    11. Re:Yeah, I got yer appreciation... RIGHT HERE! by Pyramid · · Score: 1

      You sir, reap as much respect as you sow.

      After all, you're just a lousy code monkey. Care do design a city wide network?

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      ~Any apparent grammatical or typographic errors are caused by defects in your display device.
    12. Re:Yeah, I got yer appreciation... RIGHT HERE! by oobeleck · · Score: 2

      Yeah, what he said.....

  56. what about us?! by redsaso · · Score: 2, Funny

    This appreciation day includes many system administrators:

    Computer Administrators
    Network Administrators
    Internet Administrators (webmaster)
    Telephone (PBX) Administrators
    Voice-Mail Administrators
    Database Administrators (DBA)
    UNIX ® Administrators
    LINUX Administrators
    Lotus Notes ® Administrators
    Novell GroupWise ® Administrators
    MS Exchange ® Administrators
    IBM Mainframe Systems Programmers ("sysprogs")

    What about us Tivoli Storage Manager/Veritas Netbackup Admins? where's our love? remember this next time you need your files/SAP/Oracle DB restored

    r saso

  57. Thanks Sysadmins!!!!!! by rmarll · · Score: 1

    I think I'll get mine a pager. :D

  58. NOOOO!!! by garett_spencley · · Score: 1

    Not December 21! Any day but Dec 21! Oh please not Dec 21!!!!!

    That's my mother in law's birthday!!!!!

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    Garett

  59. Heh.. by Anonvmous+Coward · · Score: 2

    Wanna know what's fun when you're working in a cubicle environment? Unplug the DSL modem. Not only do you learn new words, but you can play with everybody's day at once!

    Wish they appreciated me, I'm getting too creative when it comes to annoying people.

  60. Re:I agree - YES, CEO appreciation day! by xtremex · · Score: 1

    OK..it only had 100..but I knew everyone by name...I appreciated EVERY single person there, and I even invited everyone to my house for a BBQ. As A president of a company, your employees are doing YOU a favor by working for you..You can't be CEO of a 1 man company.(Well, I guess the dot bomb era proved you can :))

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  61. Help them by inkfox · · Score: 3, Funny
    Celebrate the holiday by hosting an intervention. Take your favorite sysadmin out to TGIF or similar, and muster up the courage to say: "We're here to help ween you from User Friendly. It's just not funny. It's Ziggy, only with a narrower world view."

    Every time you read a User Friendly strip, you should be reminded of the goofy daleks wheeling about and chanting "weeee are the superior beeeeings" and threatening everything with the only one tool they have. Tip one over and it's done for.

    Taken to its extreme, the single ongoing punchline is: "Ha ha the people who actually do things with computers instead of fetish-fixating on the computers themselves are stupid! Ha ha we control the computers! Ha ha the people who actually do things are stupid again! Ha ha! We still control the computers!"

    Being a sysadmin is cool and all. But generally speaking, you're one of the less valuable cogs in the machine which people are more eager to replace if you maintain that mindset.

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  62. Re:Could you be more clueless? by Neck_of_the_Woods · · Score: 1, Offtopic


    Why would that be a troll? Just because it does not happen where you are does not mean that it does not happen where I am. Was not a plug at developers, just a pop at someplace I use to work.

    Then again, your right it could just be a troll....wink. You never can tell with me.

    I get a lot of:

    Moderation Totals: Funny=3, Troll=3, Interesting=2 Total=2.

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  63. A sysadmin who needs apprecciation is a self-admin by software_non_olet · · Score: 1

    If you don't want to serve, what are you doing with the root-password anyway?

    Every luser want's to be a winner - but only the true, unselfish sysadmin can become enlightened.

    Hence start behaving like a REAL SYSADMIN:

    Use this day to bake a cake for the user who had his password reset most often, hhhmmm? And give away some prices (from bottle of Champaigne to a sixpack of root-beer) for those geniuses who managed to reach you on the phone between 2 and 4 am. Ok?

  64. perhaps you do have some valid points.... by bastard01 · · Score: 1

    That is a real shame that you have had those kind of experiences. Whenever I have seen an admin that is like that, that is the reason that I will not deal with being one myself. I am fully aware of how a user feels when they are frustrated, and have someone to help them with their problems, I am doing support for a job, and get asked a lot of questions from my family about how to get their computers to function. Although I am still with you as to saying that it is a dumb idea to have a holiday to celebrate the sysadmin, just like I think it is dumb to celebrate for any other occupation. because it is the job of those people to do their function, with or without extra recognition. I actually help people with computers, because I actually love to see them pick up on how these things work, and then if it is broken, I like the challenge of fixing the thing. I would have to say that there are others like me, but since the .com bubble, there are a lot of the admins that you describe because they are in it for the money, which is not the right idea in the first place. Those type of people shouldn't be admins in the first place because they usually lack the kind of pragmatism that is required to fix a true computer problem, oh, I have been trained to use x tools, so if it is a problem with y, it is because y is defective type of crap. I would say that you should show more appreciation for people as they help you, if they truely are an asset to what you do on a daily basis.

  65. Not so much appreciation, Awareness by tchdab1 · · Score: 1

    I'd care not so much about the appreciation part, but this day is needed more so for the awareness of humanity.
    Yes, I can communicate (I'm not an asocial slob).
    I work nights and weekends, but I have a life too.
    Yes, I do fix things - the problems you have when you see me are not (usually!) caused by me.
    And the stupid rules I make you follow (you're not allowed to load that, I can't give it to you because it's not standard, you have to go to the other department to get that, you only have 50 Mb of space on the server, I can't do it before next month, etc. etc.)? I don't make them up - they are the generated and expected excrement of this inefficient bureacracy.
    I do the best I can with the environment I'm dealt with to serve you and with the rules I am told to follow; please don't blame me for trying to make your infrastructure better.
    In fact, not only don't blame me, but recognize that I am really trying here.

    Yah, like that.
    I kinda see a techno-geek manifesto coming...

  66. True, but consider... by Burning1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...that with the exception of the Janator, system administrators are the only people who get no appreciation for a job well done.

    Keep the network running flawlessly for a year. Deal with all the stupid questions (bet your CEO doesn't have to do that,) and generally do your job perfectly...

    Then the first day that the PDC goes down, everyones bitching at you.

    CEOs and dentists get the occational pat on the back... Administrators are generally critical to a company but still get walked over.

    I think we could use a little appreciation. : )

    1. Re:True, but consider... by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 1

      If you really did that good of a job, an occasional problem would not be an issue. I've never worked for a company who snaped at a sysadmin for downtime in the situation you described, unless that sysadmin though that a year of uptime and dealing with "stupid" quesions was good enough to warrant not being responsible for something going wrong that's SUPPOSED to be under their control. It's not.

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    2. Re:True, but consider... by Burning1 · · Score: 2

      When the mail server is down, everything anyone wants to send is "Critical."

      The company has ground to a hault and it's your fault, because "you weren't doing a good enough job."

      People nag, and people bitch. When it's all over, the only people who respond with something better than "thanks" or "finally" are the fellow IT workers.

      They may not be directly hostile, but (at least where I worked,) an IT tech was far more likly to be criticized for a failure than a sales guy was for fowling up a deal.

  67. Topical anecdote by the+bluebrain · · Score: 1

    (Note: IANAA)
    Just now my co-worker came up to me with a tale of grief:

    He came across a website with the iFrame-showing-the-local-disk trick. It was a new one on him (he's more on the business side of things), and he expressed outrage towards our sysAdmin. Unfortunately, the iFrame trick was a new one on our sysAdmin, too, and he (apparently) doesn't have a clue about permissions across frames in the browser. So instead of simply checking for the newest security patches and applying some soothing words, he feigns competence and resets all the permissions on all the local drives ... leaving out any adminitrators and the computer itself. Try to reboot, and ... fail.
    This leaves the poor sod of a co-worker with an un-bootable box, and two days worth of lost data.

    (Heck, I'm not sure if the above is accurate, IANAA, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm jus' tellin' it how I hear it) ... This was just an hour ago - I won't be mentioning sysAdmin day around here anyway, lest it be misinterpreted as "nail-the-sysAdmin-to-the-wall-day".

    (PS: Anyone have a neat trick for recovering a Win2k box with SNAFU'd permissions? Bootdisk, and ... ? ... meh, I'm just the programmer)

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    1. Re:Topical anecdote by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 2

      Boot the CD and go to recovery console.

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    2. Re:Topical anecdote by Sylver+Dragon · · Score: 1

      PS: Anyone have a neat trick for recovering a Win2k box with SNAFU'd permissions? Bootdisk, and ... ? ... meh, I'm just the programmer

      Do a Google search on NTFSDos. One of the best programs for recovering lost data on an NTFS partition. It lets you access the NTFS partitions through with a DOS boot disk. Great for recovery, and for cracking a system, when it becomes necessary.

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      Necessity is the mother of invention.
      Laziness is the father.
    3. Re:Topical anecdote by the+bluebrain · · Score: 1

      Thanks Sylver Dragon and Amazing Quantum Man ...

      I'll have a word with sysAdmin-dude ... leaving out the original anecdote, perhaps :)
      (don't think he /.s ... Peter? You there?)

      Aaargh. Just talked to co-worker-dude: he's already formatted his disk & has started re-installing. Oh well.
      It comes to light that co-worker-dude no.2 has had the same LART applied. Maybe we can save him some time at least.

      (... having used the word "LART" above, it occurs to me that maybe the procedure was intentional? Heh. A BOFH true to mine heart. Jus' don't touch my machine, eh.)

      Anyway - thanks guys.

      (Hah! I'll have to bring this one up next time someone makes the accusation that /. is a waste of time)

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  68. I remember... by ChozSun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... when I was a SysAdmin back when jobs were plentiful.

    I enjoyed coming in and completely fixing the last "sysadmin's" handy work.

    I enjoyed migrating all servers from Windows to Linux (funny how you can get your way when you do not have to spend thousands of dollars) while all the users can still use the os's that they are familiar with (Windows, Unix, Macintosh) and still be able share the same files and printers.

    I enjoyed uptimes of months (only downtime was due to upgrading the UPS... funny you have to actually unplug the server to utilize the UPS... sheesh :).

    I enjoyed rebuilding all workstations to MY SPECIFICATIONS so that I get no more than one call a day from a user having issues with whatever.

    I certainly did not mind helping my fellow employees making their home computers that much better. Actually kind of flattering because they see that I can take a low-end workstation (similar specs to their home pc) and make it run for weeks without problems. I wouldn't blame them for wanting the same thing at home.

    I enjoyed sharing my enthusiasm about whatever was leet going on in technology with other people and seeing them started to get interested in that same technology.

    I enjoyed supporting and helping people without making them feel stupid because they asked a question about computers.

    I don't care for an appreciation day. I just want to be a sysadmin again.

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    1. Re:I remember... by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2

      Yeah man, I feel your pain. :(

      What is it, really, that happened? It's a travesty how so many sysadmin jobs have gone out the door - people haven't simply stopped needing their computers to get maintained, have they? What's the deal? It seems to me that there are more computers out there on the market than there was a year ago, in corporate use - so why less admin jobs?

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  69. My thanks go to the pr0n site sysadmins by CONTROL_ALT_F4 · · Score: 2

    Bless your souls for keeping those sites up late at night.

  70. Re:Could you be more clueless? by DecoDragon · · Score: 2

    Seems like a post on an "appreciation day" is an invitation for a little venting. I've had many a day where I've had a similar wish. (It gets answered about as well as my wish for cash instead of trinket rewards ;) ). Of course, there are also people who will go out of their way to work with you to figure out a problem, instead of just dump it on you with an e-mail that consist entirely of "the servers broken," without any other information.

    Presumably, developers sit around and tell stories about awful sysadmins.

    And the world turns on.

  71. well at least... by Twister002 · · Score: 2

    it's not another creation of the card companies.

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    "For a successful technology, honesty must take precedence over public relations for nature cannot be fooled." -Feynman
  72. It was on CNET a few days ago... by antdude · · Score: 2
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  73. How my office celebrated S.A.D.D... by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 3, Funny

    My office celebrates System Admin Appreciation Day.

    This week, I got layed off!

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    1. Re:How my office celebrated S.A.D.D... by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 1

      This week, I got layed off!

      I'm guessing that the fact you can't spell was a contributing factor.

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    2. Re:How my office celebrated S.A.D.D... by zCyl · · Score: 2

      My office celebrates System Admin Appreciation Day.

      This week, I got layed off!


      You could think of it as an appreciative extended vacation.

      Best of luck.

  74. If you hate your job so much... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    ...why not get another job.

    When you're twenty years into sysadminning and finally start to realize that the sysadmin is not the 'God of Computers' that you figured him to be, when it dawns on you Finance has stronger claims on the E10K Sun machine than IT, when you spend half your day complaining about how 'politics' is preventing you from doing your job, maybe that's the wrong time to discover you would have rather been doing management.

    Choose wisely grasshoppers.

    1. Re:If you hate your job so much... by RFC959 · · Score: 1
      maybe that's the wrong time to discover you would have rather been doing management.
      Wot, you mean "would rather have been part of the problem?"

      (Cue old Muppet Show routine where Fozzy complains that all he ever gets to do is clean up, Kermit suggests he find another job, and Fozzy says, "What, and leave show business?")

  75. Get Appreciated More!! by Kashif+Shaikh · · Score: 1

    Want to get appreciated even more Skyshadow?

    1. Backup all critical data and hide backup somewhere.
    2. Cause data catastrophe: rm -rf /*;
    3. Cry to boss, "Oh no! Critical hardware failure! Your pictures..err..data is lost sir! CVS codebase gone!"
    4. Mess up your hair, throw water on your face looking like madly trying to recover the data.
    5. Wait until everyone panics, and starts running around like mad! And you hear screams, "Oh no! My new algorithm I worked since yesterday...all gone!"
    6. While everyone is in a state of frenzy, restore all data.
    7. Boss will be very,very happy.
    8. Ask for raise the next day for your superior risk-analysis and data-recovery skills.
    9. Repeat 1-7 twice a year, and you'll recieve a bonus too!

  76. Re:I agree - YES, CEO appreciation day! by forii · · Score: 1

    Actually, you need to have a named CEO when you incorporate, so you (at least in California, I don't know about other states) could be a CEO (and president, treasurer, and secretary) of a one-person company.

  77. Re:What about the Helpdesk? by spikedvodka · · Score: 1

    AMEN! Brother, I say we declare every Monday to be Hell^Hp Desk Appreciation day.

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  78. If only I had some mod points.... by jrwillis · · Score: 1

    Very well put IMHO.

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  79. Sys Admins tend to appreciate themselves plenty! by shaka999 · · Score: 1

    At least where I work the sys admins have plenty of appreciation...from themselves. They seem to forget that the engineers are making the products that keep them employeed. Yes they serve a vital function but instead of putting roadblock after roadblock up they should think about how they can help get products out the door.

    It took me months just to get the sys admins to let me put a Linux box on the network even though simulations on the box where 2-4 times faster than a Sun...geeesh.

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  80. Not with the uptime we get around here... by Trepidity · · Score: 2

    Time to Say Thanks For the Uptime

    If the purpose of this holiday is to thank the sysadmins for our fabulous uptime, I think I can safely skip it.

  81. Thanks a million! by T1girl · · Score: 2

    Thanks for calling attention to this event and providing the official-sounding links. I convinced my boss that this is an important national day, and the company agreed to spring for a pizza party with ice cream and soda on company time for the whole IS department on Friday.

  82. Ok by The+Cat · · Score: 2

    "Come on everybody!" (clap clap) "There's cake in the conference room!"

    "So, what are we celebrating?"

    "It's System Administrator Appreciation Day! Look, we've got 'Have you hugged your geek today?' buttons and everything!"

    "Uhhh, we fired all the IT people six months ago."

    "Oh. That's a shame. More cake?"

  83. Great... by hether · · Score: 1

    So now the Sys Admins have a day along with the secretaries and the bosses. But what about all the rest of us??? I'm tired of buying presents for the rest of the staff. I know I'm whining, but really. Many, many people work hard in their positions. Why do we honor just a few solely by what their title happens to be?

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  84. that is the worst cable managment i've ever seen! by neitzert · · Score: 1

    that has to be the worst cable management I have ever seen in my entire career.

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  85. Re:I agree - YES, CEO appreciation day! by good+soldier+svejk · · Score: 1
    Really, do we have a CEO appreciaton day for all their hard work?

    Yes. Every freaking day they climb into the company jet, or the stock goes up a tiny bit and they are worth millions more, all the catered lunches, just about every freaking moment.

    I think, in fact, a CEO non-appreciation day would be quite the event, where a CEO is treated just like any other employee. He has to get his own coffee. Field his own calls. Make his own travel reservations and fly coach to his luxurious golf trip / business meetings.
    De facto immunity from prosecution is a big show of appreciation. How many indictments has the DOJ disbursed to Enron execs? When Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliburton they changed their accounting procedures to count cost overruns as revenue. That's right, they were counting expenditures as revenue! Black is white (don't get me started on Thomas White)! And yet the SEC has not even interviewed Cheney. Likewise, when the SEC "investigated" George W. Bush 's $848,560.00 stock sale at Harken, they never interviewed him or any other board member. Of course, that may have been due to the fact that an old family friend was chaiman of the SEC and the man whose job it was to decide whether or not to indict was previously George W. Bush's own lawyer.
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  86. No by wdr1 · · Score: 2

    I am not celebrating sys admin day. Frankly, I find it ridiculous. Enough with the self-martyring. For a profession paid an average of $60,5000 (well above national average), I think your take home pay should be sufficent enough.

    Yes, there can be the occasional developer that makes your life hell. Guess what? There's the occasional BOFH who does the same for developers. By large both groups are good people, but every profession has their share of assholes.

    Yes, you work overtime. YOU KNEW THAT BEFORE YOU GOT INTO IT. And damn it, so does everyone else in IT: Developers, CTO's, QA. And speaking of QA, talk about people who get no respect for what they have to put into it. It's the nature of the beast.

    You do your job. You do your best. You take pride in it. That should be enough.

    My two cents,
    -Bill

    And no, I don't want a developer's thank you day either.

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  87. Re:What about the Helpdesk? by ealar+dlanvuli · · Score: 1

    Sounds like somebody has a case of the Mondays.

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  88. Boy that is a crappy cabling job by amemily · · Score: 1

    Even the shitty sub-standard wiring job by AT&T* I spent the last two weeks repairing looked better than that.

    * The only details I'll give is whoever did it had to have been color-blind.

  89. My Internet is broken... by mmuskratt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow,
    This is a great thread. Here's the problem, for all of you people who are complaining about your sysadmin:

    1) Someone who can barely type in a password of more than 3 characters hired your sysadmin.

    2) That same person waffled at paying a REAL sysadmin what they were worth to your company, and in this world, you get what you pay for.

    3) Because you complain about things you know nothing about (and yes, that includes developer cowboys who like to screw things up for everyone else to get what they want), you are probably going to get a little bit of that treatment in return. Try this little test: Go to a nice restaurant, without a reservation. Grab the first waiter you see by the arm (if you're lucky, the waiter will have just walked in the door), and tell them that you want to order the steak and lobster, and you needed it 2 hours ago, and it is for a big, important client (who is generating revenue, not costing your company money). You will be sitting over at that open table, which hasn't been wiped off yet, and complain to the waiter about not having wiped the table clean in preparation for your unannounced arrival. Wear a suit to make yourself look important, because, well, you are, aren't you? Then, when your steak and lobster doesn't show up in fewer than 5 minutes, call over the manager, who will then tell the waiter to do what you ask them to do. A good waiter will give you excellent service, smile, and accommodate your every whim (interruptions, you explaining to him how he should work on the steak and lobster, constant bitching about not having water, wine, bread, 4 other tables). Any other waiter will be, oh, just like YOUR sysadmin...and will treat you the way you deserve.

    4) Having an MCSE doesn't mean the sysadmin your Office Manager hired will know dick about computers.

    5) You probably know less than your sysadmin about computer systems. If you know more about computer systems, you should be a mentor, not a whining prick.

    6) Nobody notices a good sysadmin. Shit just works. If you constantly have computer downtime at work, see #'s 1 and 2.

    Oh, and my Internet is just fine, I was only kidding...how's yours?

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  90. The site? by DaCrusierI · · Score: 1

    Is it me? Or does the site sux0r? I guess Sys admins don't have too much time to spend on web site designs

  91. Sysadmins? by Junky191 · · Score: 1

    How about a day for the people who are actually doing the work, rather than a day for people who merely keep the tools clean.

  92. Re:I agree - YES, CEO appreciation day! by xtremex · · Score: 1

    Yes, then you'd also be the CFO, the CTO and the Janitor :)

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  93. Re:What about the Helpdesk? by Penguinshit · · Score: 1


    No way. You kidz are the Freshmen on campus; you gotta take your lumps like we all did.

    Now get back to work and quit bugging me; I'm busy on the Quake server.

  94. ugh, please by sloth+jr · · Score: 1
    The last thing I want is a bunch of namby-pamby feel-good coming my way. I've got a mostly thankless job, but it's not like I wasn't well aware of the nature of the beast.

    My job is service. I fix problems. I don't feel my job is particularly more stressful or thankless then, say, director of customer support, or a Tier 1 tech. If I'm doing my job well, I'm invisible. I'm paid well for being invisible.

  95. official appreciation days suck by solferino · · Score: 2

    let's not go down this track - official appreciation days really suck - mother's and father's days are bad enough - but over th last coupla decades seems every lobby group been claimin a day for self-congratulatory purposes - in my opininion this is only demeaning to th ppl concerned

    ppl who appreciate what you do and know not to take other ppl for granted will always show unprompted gratitude - others who don't or are more self-centered will only resent it and any gratitude they express will be false

  96. Re:What about the Helpdesk? by spikedvodka · · Score: 1

    and the teusday's and the wednesday's and the thursday's... friday's aren't that bad though

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