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Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex Trailer

tetsuo13 writes "Bandai Entertainment Inc. in conjunction with Production I.G. has acquisition of the home video and broadcast rights in North America for the highly anticipated anime television series - Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex. Created by Production I.G., original story by Masamune Shirow, directed by Kenji Kamiya, and music by Yoko Kanno Stand Alone Complex is the television series sequel to the animated film that redefined Japanese animation, Ghost in the Shell. A trailer was released a few short days ago for those that just can't wait!! Get it here (45 MB download)."

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  1. When it gets slashdotted... by thelinuxking · · Score: 2, Funny

    For those who can't wait, they will have to wait several more days to be able to download the 45 mb trailer.

    1. Re:When it gets slashdotted... by zero2k · · Score: 1

      Except the chick in GITS was broad and had a figure, which differs from all those other little anime gals. This is one of those flicks that sculptured the female figure beautifully.

  2. Alas, already gone. by Seth+Morabito · · Score: 1

    The story's not two minutes old, and the trailer is already missing.

    The fastest slashdotting ever?

    (And on an unrelated topic, will Apple report that their G4 can slashdot faster than light?)

    1. Re:Alas, already gone. by fastlink · · Score: 1

      This link won't go! ;-)

      Download the trailer HERE!

      Have fun!
      FastLink

    2. Re:Alas, already gone. by Z3us · · Score: 1

      And the Zeus Web Server strikes again! Apache just can't handle it.

    3. Re:Alas, already gone. by Cond0r · · Score: 1

      Another mirror (.be , 6 mbit/s) can be found HERE Note: if connection load gets too high, the file might disappear.

  3. No slashdot... by koali · · Score: 1

    The link didn't work a wee ago.

  4. The link says 404... So maybe it is down. nt by aepervius · · Score: 1

    no text.

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  5. I hope it subtitled by evilned · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ghost in the Shell was the anime movie that made me realize how evil english dubs can be. The movie made no sense at all with the english dubbed version, it just seemed like a visual treat, with some sort of philosophical substance that I wasnt getting However, when I finally got a chance to watch it in japanese with subtitles, it finally made sense, it still wasnt philosophically meaty, but I didnt feel that the movie was just an excuse to draw the major naked. Either way, the animation was brilliant, and since the series will prolly be on DVD, I can have my subtitles and japanese voices.

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    1. Re:I hope it subtitled by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 4, Informative

      As I recall, actually, the movie was ORIGINALLY produced in English, and later dubbed into Japanese. I've seen both versions, and they're both pretty inpenetrable. Make no mistake, though. I loved it, and I love Masamune Shirow.

      As for the Major being naked, if you read the comic, she spends a lot more time naked there. (Well, sorta. There are some deleted scenes.)

    2. Re:I hope it subtitled by nhavar · · Score: 2

      This is really for all of you replying to this thread! WRONG WRONG WRONG.

      Sorry got caught up in all the "no, YOUR wrong" going back and forth.

      Everything that I've read about GitS says that it was a simultaneous release for Japan/Brit/USA. Reviewers talked about how ambitious it was to do such a thing given that every other movie in the world does staged releases based on geography.

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    3. Re:I hope it subtitled by doc+modulo · · Score: 1

      You could also say that she wasn't naked.

      I'm unsure if the missing genitals in the movie were censorship or that she simply doesn't need genitals.

      In the (uncensored) comic she had sex in cyberspace, on a sailboat, in a tropical setting, with 2 other women :)

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    4. Re:I hope it subtitled by testadicazzo · · Score: 1

      I'm a big anime fan. I consider the dubbing on DVD's a kind of bonus. I usally watch the first run in japanese with subtitles. Then the second time I watch in english dub with subtitles. It's often a blast to see how differnent the two versions are.

    5. Re:I hope it subtitled by Cryptnotic · · Score: 2

      This is simply not true. The Ghost in the Shell (Koukaku Kidoutai) manga was written in Japanese, then translated into English, with some pages deleted which contained some virtual reality lesbian sex. The English version of the manga probably DID come out before the Japanese version of the movie, but the Japanese version of the movie came out before the English version. In the United States, the English verison of the movie was released to theatres. The VHS home video release may have been English-only. I don't remember. I'm pretty sure the English laserdisc version had the Japanese language track, though. Most people didn't get to see the subtitled version until the DVD release. Of course, this is all very ironic, since the movie takes place mostly in Hong Kong.

      You may be thinking of the recent "Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust". That film was originally written for and dubbed in English. The Japanese release was the English dub with Japanese subtitles. There were plans to do a Japanese dub, but I don't know if that ever happened or not. It isn't really important either way.

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    6. Re:I hope it subtitled by esper_child · · Score: 1

      Actually i have a subtitled VHS of it here. Watched it once, was more than enough of it for me. I personally loved the manga but greatly disliked the movie. I am not really sure if it was just the fact that the movie made little or no sense, or if it had something to do with the guys artwork (I am not really a fan of the movies art style, don't get me wrong though the art was good, just not my style).

    7. Re:I hope it subtitled by elveu · · Score: 1

      actually GITS was origianlly produced in english. there was a japanese dub created early on but the original was in english
      actually it was one of the few animes where the english version was better then the japanese one. i've watched both and foudn the japanese to be sadly quite a let down, i usually watch anime in japanese and am easily irritated by poor dubs but i've only watched GITS in japanese once, after seeing it once i decided to watch it in english from that point on.

    8. Re:I hope it subtitled by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 2

      Nobody will dispute the release order of the manga. Masamune Shirow primarily works in Japanese, and has to go through Studio Proteus and Dark Horse to have his stuff translated into English.

      However, all news that I heard in the past, when leading up to the release, and by googling around, it appears that it enjoyed a simultaneous release in Britain, the US, and Japan. This means that if English production wasn't formost on the list, it was a serious consideration for release. However, I can easily believe that the show was animated with English voice acting in mind. For once, the cadence of speech and synching with the characters doesn't seem brutally out of place or rushed.

      Personally, I wish the GitS-mania would dissipate so Shirow could finish up Appleseed, which I've always felt was the better story. I suppose GitS appeals more strongly to geeks and hackers, but Appleseed has more human characters (even Briareos is more human than Motoko, it seems!) and a better fleshed out universe. But I digress...

  6. was /.ed yesterday by thesupermikey · · Score: 1, Informative

    This story found its way into yesterdays story on the animatrix. The link was dead in that story as well. And the site itself does not have a link to the trailer....

    read into that what you will

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  7. Sweetie... by E-Rock-23 · · Score: 1

    Ghost is one of the best films I've seen, Anime or otherwise. And given that it doesn't suffer from Dragonball GT syndrome (aka its actually written by Masamune Shirow), I'm looking forward to the series. Any info on number of eps, seiyuu, etc? Gotta know how many DVDs to budget when they're released...

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  8. Learn Japanese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know this will get modded as a troll, or flamebait or whatever, and I don't care.

    Basically, if you want to watch Anime in it's native form, you have to learn Japanse. Not only because the English translations are less accurate than running the whole script through Google's automatic translator, then displaying the ASCII text on an EBCDIC machine *without* any translation, but because generally, you have to be able to understand Japanese culture to fully appreciate a lot of the finer points, (that's one huge reason *why* the English versions are edited so heavily - the original would not appeal to a large percentage of the English-speaking audience, (apparently)).

    Even if you don't bother to learn the Japanese language very well, (which I could understand, because it's not something to be done overnight), at least learn *some*, and read up about life in Japan. There is an excellent book published by, I think, Kodansha, which is in Japanese and English, which basically tells you everything you would ever need to know about life in Japan. Imagine it as the Japanese-culture equivillent to *nix manual pages, and that's it. It's excellent. Unfortunately, I cannot remember the name of the book, and I am too lazy to walk 1 yard over to the bookshelf to look, but just search on Google for it, and I'm sure you'll find it.

    1. Re:Learn Japanese by CheshireCat · · Score: 1

      And there would be nothing wrong with learning another language to watch a live action film? Or to read a book? What makes "fucking CARTOONS" less wortwhile than some other form of art or entertainment from another culture?

    2. Re:Learn Japanese by realmolo · · Score: 1

      I'm all for appreciating the art of other countries/cultures in their original language. But I doubt that these guys who spent a summer learning Japanese to watch NGE in it's original form are reading Japanese novels. It's the equivalent of learning to speak Spanish so you can have a good time in Tiajuana, and that's it. It makes you look like a poseur to the natives.

    3. Re:Learn Japanese by ErMaC · · Score: 5, Insightful

      OK Since I'm currently in Japan, currently speak Japanese, and am an insane anime fan (please don't slashdot my homepage) I can sort of speak on this subject with at least some sense that I know what I'm talking about.

      I will agree that learning Japanese will benefit your enjoyment and understanding of Japanese, especially of Japanese culture. You can tell who these people are when they laugh at the scene in TenchiMuyo OVA ep1 where Aeka sneezes right after Ryoko talks (those who've seen it know what I'm talking about). Cultural nuances like that will fall on deaf... eyes, unless you provide liner notes or something. Also there are plenty of things in Japanese which just do not translate. There is no good way to translate the fact that certain people in Scyed talk in Keigo all the time. There is no good way to translate the pun in Puni Puni Poemi involving 80 gram breasts (and it's a brilliant pun).

      However, that's absolutely no basis to say that learning Japanese is a necessary requirement for watching Anime. A good subtitler (like I am, I'd like to believe) will spend a whole lot of time to get things just right, and to communicate as much information as possible in the most natural way with losing as little from the original as possible. A good subtitling job can usually provide 95% of the meaning, tone, and nuance of the original. There are plenty of ways to translate things which give you a very good idea of what's going on, and to say that watching raw is necessary is just rediculous.

      Would I not watch film just because I'm not familiar with Goddard's New Wave editing technique? No - that's silly. Would I not drive a car if I didn't know what the inner workings of my timing belt were? No.

      Would I not use a computer if I didn't know the source code for my operating system by heart? No.

      That's analogous to what you're saying. Even if you cannot get the complete 100% picture doesn't mean you can't enjoy it, grow from it, and then from that maybe decide it would be a good idea put in the effort to find out what that bit you're missing is.

      Various other responses:
      To the obvious troll. Jesus man, you'd learn C just so you could hack your operating system? Get a life!

      About the mention of vocabulary in Anime: That's a bunch of bullocks. Anime's vocabulary, style, and everything else about its speech is generally on par with Japanese people. Take a look at American television. Does everyone there talk in really funky accents and use huge amounts of slang? No. Could you imagine Dan Rather saying "Next in dis hizzouz we be hitting up our home skillit down in Tehran for a breaking news up-dizzate!" Japanese television has people talking in just that - Japanese. Anime is no exception. In fact Anime is closer to the actual way Japanese people talk since most (almost all) of the time, it's fiction, and therefore the characters in it are suppose to be talking like real people, as opposed to the newscaster whose pronunciation has to be immaculate before they let him or her infront of the camera.

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    4. Re:Learn Japanese by Burl+Ives · · Score: 1
      You must be one of those arseholes who demands people post in raw or subtitled only in a.b.m.anime. I hate you people.

      I watch quite a bit of anime. Clearly I appreciate it. A decent dub lets me concentrate on the ART and ANIMATION, which is what I like about anime.

      I even took a bit of japanese in college, and I honestly don't think it adds anything to my understanding or appreciation (because I don't remember a lick), which get along quite fine in english, thanks.

    5. Re:Learn Japanese by RickHunter · · Score: 2

      A good subtitling job can usually provide 95% of the meaning, tone, and nuance of the original. There are plenty of ways to translate things which give you a very good idea of what's going on, and to say that watching raw is necessary is just rediculous.

      For an extreme example of this, pick up the ADV Excel Saga DVD and flip on the Menchi notes. They point out most of the hard-to-spot (and occasionally very high-speed) visual gags and explain a bunch of the jokes. Even when it takes several paragraphs to do so. (You just have to either pause or read really, really fast. ;) ) A lot of fansubbers will do the same thing, although its rare for a commercial sub to point them out unless (like Excel Saga) they're the entire point of the show.

      Oh, and what Tenchi episode were you talking about again? Aeyka doesn't even appear in Ep1 - I think the bit you refer to is in Ep2 or 3. And that's easy to pick up with even a bit of understanding of Japanese culture. (And it is indeed amusing)

    6. Re:Learn Japanese by Nicopa · · Score: 1

      You really know nothing, there's lot of good literature written in Spanish. Borges, Cortázar, García Márquez...

    7. Re:Learn Japanese by Saeger · · Score: 2, Informative
      I've got a very short list of Japanese that I've learned from watching Anime:

      • Watashi = I
      • Nani? = what?
      • Nanda? = same as 'what' I think.
      • Nano? = where am I?
      • Daymo = but
      • mushi mushi = hello
      • Un-o = excuse me
      Pretty sad... that's it.

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    8. Re:Learn Japanese by domninus.DDR · · Score: 2, Funny

      How can you learn that but not learn baka? you baka.

    9. Re:Learn Japanese by Longinus · · Score: 1

      Oh my God, it's Justin Ermac! Hey man, I love all your AMV's, they're by far the best stuff out there. Keep up the good work!

    10. Re:Learn Japanese by Have+Blue · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is a ((slightly) more) acceptable compromise featured on the Excel Saga DVDs. ADV calls them "vid-notes", and what they are is pop-up-video-style notes that explain the nuances that got left out. When Excel pulls some gag that makes absolutely NO sense in English I can at least read the note that says "This is a hilarious pun in Japanese" and know what I'm missing.

    11. Re:Learn Japanese by ErMaC · · Score: 1

      Umm, thanks. ^_^ And yes it was Tenchi muyo ep2 and not ep1, my mistake.

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    12. Re:Learn Japanese by GreyDuck · · Score: 1
      OK Since I'm currently in Japan, currently speak Japanese, and am an insane anime fan (please don't slashdot my homepage) I can sort of speak on this subject with at least some sense that I know what I'm talking about.

      [shameless plug] He's also one helluva AMV creator. Dig through animemusicvideos.org for ErMaC videos.[/shameless plug]

      I will agree that learning Japanese will benefit your enjoyment and understanding of Japanese, especially of Japanese culture. You can tell who these people are when they laugh at the scene in TenchiMuyo OVA ep1 where Aeka sneezes right after Ryoko talks (those who've seen it know what I'm talking about). Cultural nuances like that will fall on deaf... eyes, unless you provide liner notes or something. Also there are plenty of things in Japanese which just do not translate. There is no good way to translate the fact that certain people in Scyed talk in Keigo all the time. There is no good way to translate the pun in Puni Puni Poemi involving 80 gram breasts (and it's a brilliant pun).

      I invite you to try, now that you've made us all curious, ErMaC. =)

      Oddly enough, I picked up on there being something about Aeka's sneeze in episode 2 and made reference to it in my [shameful plug] Tenchi Muyo Thumbnail Theater. [/shameful plug] "Aeka: *sneeze* Are my ears burning, or is it just hot in here?" I guess if you watch enough anime and are looking for cultural stuff, you'll pick up a few things.

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    13. Re:Learn Japanese by icemind · · Score: 1

      Hope you don't mind if I refine that a little - not trying to be a jerk, it's cool you picked all that up, I'm just trying to convince myself here that what little Japanese I've remembered from years of learning is actually occasionally useful ;)

      > "Watashi = I"

      Yep. "Boku" can also mean the same, though only guys use boku. I think.

      > "Daymo = but"

      "Demo" actually.

      > "mushi mushi = hello"

      "Moshi Moshi". As far as I know this is ONLY used when they pick up the phone, first thing. It's like when we pick up and say "Hello?" but they only use it on the phone. Weird, I know.

      > "Un-o = excuse me"

      Do you mean "Anoh"? I think they tend to us this like we use "Uhhhh". Excuse me is "sumimasen".

      Pete

    14. Re:Learn Japanese by GMontag451 · · Score: 2
      Its been a while since I took Japanse, but let me correct you on a few points.

      Watashi and nani are correct, but nan da (notice the space) isn't exactly the same as nani. Nan da is a shortening (read informal use) of nan desu ka which basically means "What is it?"

      I don't remember "nano" and "daymo" is impossible (you can't have a y without a following vowel like that), but hello is "moshi moshi" and the word you are looking for for excuse me is "ano" which is also used for "um" and just about any other time you would want to say something similiar.

    15. Re:Learn Japanese by Saeger · · Score: 1
      Thanks. But I figured the english spelling of Japanese script wasn't that important as long as it sounds right. Even your corrections aren't that helpful since I wouldn't know the right way to pronounce it without little carets and bars and such over the vowels. That, and there's no way to spell out how asians "hock a loogey" while talking. :)

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    16. Re:Learn Japanese by Saeger · · Score: 1
      Honto?

      Oshaberi!

      Damare-yo!

      Stolen from here ... :)

      thanks - I got the impression that 'ano' was the same as excuse me since was almost always used to the same effect in getting someone's attention.

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    17. Re:Learn Japanese by Saeger · · Score: 1
      Baka ka!

      Nan-dayo omae-wa?! :)

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    18. Re:Learn Japanese by ccwf · · Score: 1
      GMontag451 writes:
      I don't remember "nano" and "daymo" is impossible (you can't have a y without a following vowel like that)
      The original poster (Saeger) doesn't know accepted romanizations. As others have pointed out, "daymo" means (de mo). I admit to being stumped by "nano", however; my best guess is that the poster meant (nani o), which means "what" as a direct object.
  9. Would you enjoy 200,000 geeks leeching 45Mb, Taco? by tuxedo-steve · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Okay. A link to a file which will no doubt be extremely popular has just been posted on the front page, and it's 45 fricking megabytes. The /. effect on a news site or whatever is one thing; being totally inconsiderate to the poor sod who's hosting that file is quite another.

    Save it for the P2P nets, kids. This is a real good example of where we should be using them legitimately.

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  10. 45 MB!!!???? by HungWeiLo · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh, it's standalone...so 15-20MB of the trailer is the embedded QuickTime binaries? Oh wait...

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  11. I feel a great disturbance in the force by Raul654 · · Score: 5, Funny

    As if a hundred sysadmins were cried out in great pain, and were suddenly silenced.

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    1. Re:I feel a great disturbance in the force by salmo · · Score: 2

      More appropriately it would be "I feel a whisper in my ghost." And then in English there would be a comment about how my wires are messed up, but in the Japanese version the english subtitles would make a crack about how it must be that time of the month.

    2. Re:I feel a great disturbance in the force by MagPulse · · Score: 2

      Actually according to this newsgroup post, that link's been down since yesterday morning anyway.

  12. Found it by MagPulse · · Score: 4, Informative

    Click the link below the trailer header: http://www.sa.sakura.ne.jp/~straydog/oshii/gits-sa c/index.html

    1. Re:Found it by griblik · · Score: 1

      Just so all you know, that one's bitten the /. too.

      A 45MB download is going to kill anything - I suggest coming back tomorrow...

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    2. Re:Found it by Bishop · · Score: 2

      I think the tool are are looking for is 'wget.'

    3. Re:Found it by netsharc · · Score: 1

      Make a html file with a link to the file to download, open the html file in Mozilla, and right click the link, and choose "Save Target As..."

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  13. ghost in the shell... by jukal · · Score: 4, Funny
    [jukal@host jukal]$ /bin/bash
    [jukal@host jukal]$ *BOOOOO!*

    ...worst joke ever?

    1. Re:ghost in the shell... by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

      No - you'd have to be doing it in a DOS SHELL!

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  14. Ancient link? by clubin · · Score: 2, Informative

    That link has been dead since the 31st, at least. Is news moderation that slow around here or did the poster forget to check the link.

  15. Re:Would you enjoy 200,000 geeks leeching 45Mb, Ta by BJH · · Score: 1

    File's gone. I guess someone reads /. ;)

  16. Mirroring, anyone? by dazdaz · · Score: 1

    Anyone with bandwidth care to mirror it?

  17. Options? by CoreyGH · · Score: 1

    Instead of complaining, let's figure out a solution; does anyone know where else this can be found?

    1. Re:Options? by thelinuxking · · Score: 1

      Well, here's one of the rare times a Google cache won't help :)

  18. dude... by complex · · Score: 3, Funny

    i have a deep-seated fear of being alone. being made to stand alone for any amount of time is pure absolute torture. i hold cowboyneal responsible.

    complex

  19. For crying out loud! by gnugnugnu · · Score: 1

    For crying out loud!
    A direct link to 45MB on the front page of Slashdot, how irresponsible is that.

    It is already gone, anyone got a link?

    I am still trying to get the Xmen 2 trailer that was pulled after it got slashdotted a few weeks back!

  20. Double-standard? by Anonymous+Cowtard · · Score: 1

    Ok.. just a few posts ago, there was a big uproar over MIT using some cobbled-together image from the Raditz comic. However, right here we have this little anime icon which I'm betting comes freom a source other than the editor's own drawing talents used on the very site that decried that such use in the MIT story.

    Anyone care to explain the diff to me?

  21. Re:Would you enjoy 200,000 geeks leeching 45Mb, Ta by sgtsanity · · Score: 1

    Yep, and with new innovations like magnet links. You can search for a specific file on Gnutella and be sure that you're getting exactly that file. It also helps to find new sources for files that you're already downloading.

  22. Found the trailer! by synapticw00t · · Score: 2, Informative

    This one is only 34.7 and can be found at: http://www.sa.sakura.ne.jp/~straydog/oshii/gits-sa c/gits-sac-trailer.mpeg I'm getting decent speed.

  23. Moved by dpaton.net · · Score: 2, Informative

    the trailer is now HERE

    I'll try to post a USA mirror in a little while.

    -dave

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    1. Re:Moved by tetsuo13 · · Score: 1

      If I can get a hold of a copy (sorry, I never saved it to disk), I'll host the trailer on a US server.

      Anyone saved it and care to donate?

    2. Re:Moved by synapticw00t · · Score: 1

      Sure, I can upload it. Synaptic@w00t.cc

  24. Redefined Anime? How? by jefftp · · Score: 2

    I have Ghost in the Shell... on VHS and DVD. It's an interesting movie. Not really great compared to some of my old Nexus Studio subs when I was running an anime club, but it's pretty good.

    The question I have is, how did Ghost in the Shell redefine anime? There's nothing really that breath-taking.

    1. Re:Redefined Anime? How? by synapticw00t · · Score: 2

      I wouldn't say it necessarily redefined anime but it did bring back the story aspect. After Akira all I can remember is being subjected to was demon raping anime. If there was anything better then that, I sure as heck didn't run across it. When GitS came out along with Ninja Scroll in the same year (or close to it) it brought a whole new wave of American interest in Japanese animation. It reminded us that cartoons don't have to be just for kids or evil pornographic crap. Not to mention at the time it was released (94 or 95?) we were just getting into the tech boom, anything tech related was being gobbled up and we all know that Hot Cyborg Chicks Sell. God knows Iv picked up several shirts, wall scrolls, resin statues and figures all made because of Major Motoko Kusanagi.

    2. Re:Redefined Anime? How? by Winterblink · · Score: 1

      If you like story, check out Jin-Roh: The Wolf Brigade. It's basically by the same people who did GitS. Has one of the best stories I've seen in a while for anime movies.

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  25. Re:I totally agree by ErMaC · · Score: 1

    Are you INSANE?
    OK I'll admit hiragana and katakana are pretty damn simple. But I would venture to guess you haven't gotten into any Kanji. The only people who don't have a problem with Kanji are 1) Chinese/Japanese/so-some-extent-Koreans who already learned them in school over a period of more than a dozen years or 2) complete and utter linguistical and artistic geniuses.
    You try learning the 1900+ Kanji you're expected to know before you finish high school and get back to me.

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  26. Re:Would you enjoy 200,000 geeks leeching 45Mb, Ta by halo8 · · Score: 1

    Well i just i totally agree with you

    but as of THIS time, on kazaa (kazaalite of course) i couldnt find a hit for

    koukaku.mpg or anything

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  27. And for when *that* one gets slashdotted... by paulcammish · · Score: 5, Informative
    ... which was about 30 minutes ago.

    There's a copy here: www.daedalustech.co.uk/gits-sac-trailer.mpeg (I must be insane)

    Take it easy with the server though... I'm not sure how much load it can take...

    I've got it on Gnutella too (same filename - gits-sac-trailer.mpeg), so only use the link when absolutely necessary... please.

    I'll take it down if you guys kill the server too much...

    Dont mind me, anyways... I'm just karma whoring.

    1. Re:And for when *that* one gets slashdotted... by ahaning · · Score: 1

      You might wish to mention the --limit-rate option for wget when posting links to large files on your own server.

      For instance,
      wget --limit-rate=5k http://www.daedalustech.co.uk/gits-sac-trailer.mpe g

      will download at about 5KB/s. Yes, if you've got a 250KB/s link, it may seem silly to "pretend" as though you've only got a 56k modem, but it's a bit nicer for the server admin and the hundreds of others that are trying to get to the same file.

      As of 4:30 EST, I'm getting a nice 4.92K/s from daedalustech.co.uk on a 1.5Mbit cable. Thanks!

      --
      Withdrawal before climax is very ineffective and those who try this are usually called "parents."
    2. Re:And for when *that* one gets slashdotted... by shut_up_man · · Score: 1

      Got it... here's a mirror of that funky file.

      Limited to five simultaneous users at once, should run until my machine starts blowing smoke.

    3. Re:And for when *that* one gets slashdotted... by paulcammish · · Score: 1
      Sorry guys, funs over. :)

      Just noticed the log file is nearing a meg, and thats all thats on the site :)

      The hits seem to have dropped off now anyway...

    4. Re:And for when *that* one gets slashdotted... by dennison_uy · · Score: 1

      Wow, very impressive!

      For those who are having problems downloading it, I was able to get it from Kazaa. You can download it from me HERE.

      --
      Take off every 'sig'!
      All your 'sig' are belong to us!
  28. Go Commander Taco! Time is Fleeting! by Aexia · · Score: 1

    It's the moment you've been waiting for! The outskirts of Neo-Toyko is attacked by Slashdot! Can Taco reactivate the Meta-Mod in time to save Neo-Toyko? Meanwhile, a stranger waits in the shadows!

    Next time on SLASHDOT Z!

  29. Re:Found it [VGM Fusion Mirror is up] by Quass · · Score: 1

    We've got two version of the trailer up.

    They're in WMV format, and we have a highbandwidth one @ 18megs, and a lowbandwidth one @ ~3 megs.

    Come over to VGM Fusion to get it, and hey, while you're there, why don't you take a look around the site a bit. :)

  30. Japan: Profile of a Nation? by Kowh · · Score: 3, Informative

    Was the book Japan: Profile of a Nation? It is indeed published by Kodansha and appears to be close to what you described.

    From the description on Amazon, it also appears to be a condensed version of their large encyclopedia: Japan: An Illustrated Encyclopedia, which is an order of magnitude more expensive.

  31. Must Be Crazy Alright! by tetsuo13 · · Score: 1

    Here you go, please go easy on my server guys ^^
    If it gets slashdotted give it a try later...

    http://www.anime.fm/download/gits-sac-trailer.mpeg

  32. Well, Heck.. by billatq · · Score: 3, Informative

    .. I can't think of a better use of college bandwidth :)

    All of them here

    I have 3 versions that I've mirrored:
    A 34.8 MB mpeg

    16.2 MB wmv

    and a 2.4 MB wmv

    Enjoy ;)

    1. Re:Well, Heck.. by chris_mahan · · Score: 1

      Thank you, kind soul.

      --

      "Piter, too, is dead."

    2. Re:Well, Heck.. by billatq · · Score: 1

      I downloaded the other 6.7 avi version, so that's available too. Likely, you'll probably want to download that one--though I'm leaving the others up.

    3. Re:Well, Heck.. by billatq · · Score: 1

      Well I've exceeded my bandwidth for today. Thanks for trying, click on another mirror. Cheers :)

    4. Re:Well, Heck.. by StandardDeviant · · Score: 2

      Do you realize what a negative effect on your school records having ALL of the tamu.edu sysnet adminery after your blood will have?!? ;-) "Strange, according to this you're both dead and on academic probation. Oh, and your thirty grand in library overdue fees are due..."

  33. Mirrored DivX 7MB by Ken@WearableTech · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've re-encoded it with DivX and halfed the screen size. It's just under 7 MB and mirrored it here

    1. Re:Mirrored DivX 7MB by shut_up_man · · Score: 1

      Mirror of that file over here:

      ftp://195.149.46.131/gts-divx.avi

      Capped to 5 users at once, so you might have to retry...

    2. Re:Mirrored DivX 7MB by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2

      Good job. I was going to do the same thing, well if I was able to download it.

  34. "Redefined"? Please. by Winterblink · · Score: 1

    Ok the show had some very slick animation, and had a pretty good story that could easily be the basis of a show. But to say it "redefined" anime is silly. I can think of a lot of other anime that were a lot more "redefining" qualities to them than that: Neon Genesis Evangelion, Cowboy Bebop, Serial Experiments Lain, Gundam, Ah! Megami-sama, Akira, Tenchi Muyo!, and others. Anyone else have some more worthy contenders? Intelligent responses please :)

    --
    "I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
    -Hoban Washburn
  35. This is the book. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, the book is 'Japan At A Glance':

    Here

    My copy was a gift from a Japanese friend, (dunno why I mentioned that :-) ).

    I guess I should really have mentioned it in the original post.

  36. Re:Would you enjoy 200,000 geeks leeching 45Mb, Ta by ahaning · · Score: 1

    Now now. I know 45MB is nothing to sneeze at, but let's not forget when they posted a link to a 1.1GB VOB on the front page.

    http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/02/06/174023 3&mode=nested&tid=117

    The link has since died, and the full movie is only available on special request from the FSF (a smaller(60MB) version is now available) or to FSF developers.

    The video available wasn't even all that good. With the a/v occasionally losing sync, wierd artifacts in the video, etc. However, I believe these were chalked up to the Free software that they were using.

    Oh well, just so you know. These guys have done worse ;-).

    --
    Withdrawal before climax is very ineffective and those who try this are usually called "parents."
  37. Another Mirror by Wally4u · · Score: 1

    Got to love University Connections.
    34.8 MB MPEG
    I really want to see If the server can handle the load :)

    1. Re:Another Mirror by Wally4u · · Score: 1

      Closed the mirror after 1000 downloads, and a lot of traffic. :) Hope you've enjoyed while it lasted

  38. Re:"Redefined"? Please. by Winterblink · · Score: 1

    Ah, Ghibli. :) Forgot about that. I don't think there is a bad Ghibli release out there, they're all fantastic with original storylines and great animation. Personal faves: Nausicaa and Laputa. I haven't seen the new one Spirited Away, but I anticipate that one to be added to my favorites list.

    --
    "I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
    -Hoban Washburn
  39. Re:It's a clean room implementation. by Anonymous+Cowtard · · Score: 1

    1. It's a news site. They're ALLOWED to use pictures. It's called fair use rights.

    And, MIT, an educational institution isn't allow to use said picture in a presentation? They certainly weren't selling the presentation.

    2. Like said previously, it wasn't used to gain money.

    Really? Then /. gives away that banner space on top for free? Subscriptions to the site are free as well? Wow... didn't know that.

    3. The face makes it obvious that this is an anime post, for anime fans. We all KNOW it's Sasami from Tenchi Muyo. The US military doesn't read comics too often. It's not like Slashdot is being sneaky about it.

    And since when does the "sneakiness" matter in a court case?

    4. For CRYIN' OUT LOUD, look at the pictures on Slashdot. Half of them are Windows icons, some of them are pictures of Einstein. They're small icons so you can figure out the theme of the story. If it came down to it, yes, they could hire an art department, but JEBUS, chill man (I say this as I lash out louder than the original poster).

    Yes... I see the amount of infringment is what matters. MIT stole a small bit from the comic and therefore must pay. Whereas the wholesale infringment here on Slashdot makes it okie-dokie.

    Moron...

  40. Opinions are like armpits... by Mulletproof · · Score: 2

    Ghost in the shell redefined animation? Hardly. Masamune Shiro's manga was better than the actual movie. Both Patlabor the second movie (which came out before, thus "redefining animation") and GitS were done by the same animator and both had the same plodding "trying to dive deep into philosophy" bit, ultimately doing themselves a disservice. Not to mention the manga has this funky 3-way lesbian scene... For something to redefine a genre, it has to change the way you look at it substantially so... I can't see GitS doing that, honestly.

    --
    You need a FREE iPod Nano
  41. Redefining "redefined". by Mulletproof · · Score: 2

    Right... It's another case of a submitter passing off his opinion as fact. A bit annoying, personally. Of your choices, I'd definitely agree with Akira and Gundam, maybe Eva, but it has too much of that "Boy finds robot fights evil invaders for college credits" stuff for me. And Shinji just has to be the most hatable character alive in anime :p YMMV. Just to put things in perspective, I'm not a huge fan of Gundam either, but there's no denying it's giant robot influence on the genre. I guess GitS tries to be the Gibson of anime (which I suspect is why some hold it up as revolutionary), but it hardly redefines anything.

    --
    You need a FREE iPod Nano
    1. Re:Redefining "redefined". by Winterblink · · Score: 1

      You know, I didn't mind Shinji. At first, yes he's annoying. Everyone like "just get into the damn thing and blow stuff up!", but that's not really the point of the character. That's Asuka's angle. Shinji probably would do his part to save the world if he had a reason for doing it other than his father wants him to do it. And that it's the ONLY thing his father wants him for. He's a messed up kid really, which was what made the series likable for me. It caught me off guard, I was expecting the kind of "woo hoo! I watched Gundam as a kid and now I get to beat aliens up in a big mecha!" character we've seen ad nauseum in other anime.

      --
      "I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
      -Hoban Washburn
  42. Have to? by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    Don't you think that's a little strong? I mean, a lot of the higher quality Anime's have strong character and plotting, but not knowing every nuance of Japanese culture can't detract that much from the over all feeling.

    I mean, I might miss a few little things, but I don't really think you need to know Japanese to appreciate Jin Roh or Akira. Even something set in contemporary Japan like Initial D comes across the language barrier. Anyone who loves cars would love that anime.

    Maybe it would help more for the romance stuff like Oh My goddess and Tenchi Muyo, but who cares about that sissy crap :P

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    autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
  43. We need massive use of web caches... by Nicopa · · Score: 2

    The mpeg file is gone... See? We need web caches... It's stupid to have this file crossing the ocean thousands of times. Besides not using web caches causes that those who cannot afford bandwidth costs cannot put content in the web... Caches now!.

  44. Oh come on. by autopr0n · · Score: 2

    Well, I've taken about 25 credit hours of Chinese so far, and I have to say, Chinese characters are really not that hard.

    I'm always amazed by Japanese students who say Kanji is so difficult. I suppose if you spent most of your time studying in Hiragana and Katakana without that much of a focus on Kanji. But really, Chinese Characters are mostly composed of other characters grouped together in space. Writing and remembering them is basically learning to spell on a two dimensional plain rather then a line... and with mostly short, small words. Nothing like English complex and irrational spelling like: "acupuncture", "through", "indefatigable", "anonymous", "hiragana" or what have you.

    Personally, I think Chinese characters are actually easier to remember then the spelling of English words, and yes I am a native English speaker.

    --
    autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
    1. Re:Oh come on. by esper_child · · Score: 1

      And that irrationalality on the words is one of the main reasons I don't like the English language a whole lot. Presonally I have been a big fan of idiograms, as they are a lot easier to convey your message with. Kanji really isn't that hard once you get the base symbols down, after that you can kinda think your way through the rest. I also like the syllabol form of righting (such as katakana and hiragana). But the practice of making silent letters and letters that hold multiple different sounds is just evil and wrong. I feel sorry for anyone who has to learn English as a second language.

  45. Re:Found it [VGM Fusion Mirror is up] by Quass · · Score: 1

    Funny, seems to still work for me.

    Anyone else having problems??

    PS.. we also have the Xmen trailer.. lol

  46. Re:Would you enjoy 200,000 geeks leeching 45Mb, Ta by Anenga · · Score: 1

    I was going to download it and make a MAGNET link, but I can't even get the file :P If you have it, run it through Bitzi and share the Hash with us!

    If you want to share it the right way, share it on Shareaza, then right click the file in your library and go to "Copy URL". Then paste the URL up here =)

  47. Re:It's a clean room implementation. by handsomepete · · Score: 1
    3. The face makes it obvious that this is an anime post, for anime fans. We all KNOW it's Sasami from Tenchi Muyo. The US military doesn't read comics too often. It's not like Slashdot is being sneaky about it.

    And since when does the "sneakiness" matter in a court case?

    And since when did we all know it was Sasami from Tenchi Muyo? I don't even know what a Tenchi Muyo is....
  48. If All Other Mirrors Fail... by tetsuo13 · · Score: 1

    there is always animeFM :)

    http://www.anime.fm/download/gits-sac-trailer.mpeg

    I already posted this link but it got burried in replies up above. I also probably should have mirrored the MPEG from the beginning. Anyway, go easy on my server please ^^;

  49. Yokko Kano... by tenchiken · · Score: 2

    Yoko Kanno (think Anime's John Williams) is doing the music for Stand Alone Complex. This is a huge surprise, because AFAIK, this is the first music she has done for a studio that is owned by someone other then Bandai.

    (Some of her music includes Bebop, Escaflowne, Macross Plus, Arjuna, etc).
    This is a great thing, as she has been sorely underused as of late.

    1. Re:Yokko Kano... by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 2

      I totally agree. I had the great fortune to be near the front of the stage at Anime Expo in 1999 when Yoko Kanno did a live concert. Simply amazing. Got to ask her a few questions too :P

      But I agree on her talent, her music is diverse, beautiful, and has depth. New listeners should listen to "Sora" (Escaflowne), "Voices", "Idol Talk", and "Wanna be an Angel" from Macross Plus for good starters.

      She also did the music for the Magnetic Rose episode in Memories, which was also haunting and beautiful.

      --
      "Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence." - Charles de Gaulle
  50. Oh goody! More attempts to look smart from Shirow! by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 2
    Seriously.

    Shirow is a brilliant designer and visual artist, but he is one of the worst damn story tellers I have ever, EVER read.

    A classic case of putting the world-building ahead of the characters. The world is there to contain the characters, and the characters are there to convey the human message to the audience. When each is strong, when there is enough insight and compassion put into each, truly great story telling can take place. That isn't the case with Shirow.

    Shirow gets an 'A' for graphic design, a 'B+' for world building, but lacks the compassion to be a great story teller. Now, you can see evidence of compassion. His earlier stories had some moments. But for some mysterious reason, he has chosen not to develop and apply this aspect of himself in his stories. He's moved away from learning about people, and directed himself into such devoid areas as porn, where human insight plays second fiddle, (if any fiddle at all), to glossy surface nonsense. Certainly, this is not necessarily evil or bad, but it is an almost contemptible decision considering what Shirow might have done with his talents.

    Imagine if Miyazaki had decided to pursue porn? Any moron can draw a naked girl. Why waste real minds on such trivia?

    The result is that disquieting & detached feeling throughout Shirow's work. Everything he draws seems to generate that dance-club atmosphere, where the beautiful swell in their powers, while everybody else goes home feeling sad & lonely. The consumers and the eaten. (There is such an energetic transfer in those kinds of environments.) And since Shirow long ago stopped impressing me with his socio-political junk philosophy, particularly because I think it is quite impossible, and indeed pointless, to attempt any deep cultural understanding without a solid grasp of human compassion, I find his work to be virtually worthless as anything other than an exercise in clever visual design.

    Furthermore. . . And this one stands out for me, one of Shirow's main strongholds of dramatic focus is flawed!

    He's a big, big fan of that dark, heart-achy, 'Bladerunner-like Feeling', brands of which are so popular among fashion magazines, goths and and any number of post-industrial approaches to art. --That, "I don't quite understand it, but it makes me feel like there's something out there which is kind of cool, and kind of sexy and kind of. . , I don't know, but I desperately want to touch it whatever it is, even though it makes my heart ache, and I know it's basically impossible to achieve whatever it demands. . . You know what I mean?" --A feeling which exactly none of the photographers and the artists and the fashion victims, etc., seem to understand the nature of on any level other than that of the surface experience. Which makes them little better than mindless worshipers who carry the torch forward for the rest of us to follow without knowing where or why.

    Essentially, Shirow doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

    But, ooh. His pictures are soooo cool.

    Please.


    -Fantastic Lad

  51. Production I.G says thanks.. by db5007 · · Score: 1

    Thank you slashdot for your coverage of anime(specifically on the Ghost in the Shell TV series) we here at IG in Tokyo(the studio that made the show) are very grateful. Actually, we wanted to put the trailer on our site but we knew that we simply couldnt afford the bandwidth(generally studios in Japan are very poor.) Anyhow, thanks everbody, hopefully one day, people outside of Japan will figure out that animation can be enjoyed in ways other than just comedy and adventure. SamuraiNYC

  52. Re:I totally agree by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 2

    Buy Heisig's book. It will take less than six months to learn those 1900 kanji. The kanji are actually organized to make sense, if you'll believe it.

  53. +1 Informative? by KNicolson · · Score: 1

    2.5 correct, 4 wonky spellings. +1 Funny only surely!

  54. Re:Anime is subversive by borgheron · · Score: 1

    Anime is no more subversive than any other popular form of entertainment. Look at rock music, TV, or movies. If you don't like it don't watch, but please don't take it upon yourself to "clean it up" for the rest of us.

    I leave you with this famous quote:

    "Here, finally, there were no laws, no boundaries, no limits, no judgement.. and the motto above the door read simply: Hell is more beautiful than Heaven"

    -- anonymous

    GJC

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    Gregory Casamento
    ## Chief Maintainer for GNUstep
  55. Re:Anime is subversive by Professor+Nova · · Score: 1

    Subversion is the great american past time.
    After all, it was the subversive refutation
    of the "devine right of kings" that led us
    to revolt against a somewhat tyrannical king.
    Subversion is as american as mom and apple pie.

    Though I would consider anything you would
    find "subversive" to be worth taking a look
    at.

  56. GiS TV timetable by Fluffie · · Score: 1

    Sky Perfect TV, PPV. 800y/2ep (Lets see you americans whine about stuff you should pay for. Most of SkyPer isnt worth paying for at all, and this isnt enough to pique my interest.)

    There will be 26eps. Starts October 1st, with 2 episode special (85min)

    In all probability, it will be broadcast on other media later. I'll ask.

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    Remember the 5 K's
  57. Re:Err... by db5007 · · Score: 1

    yes, I should have created a new post..I had just registered and got a little confused..oops!

    Perhaps I could get Oshii san to send Taco an autograph..