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Nokia 7650 Modified to Record Video Clips
rocannon writes "T-Mobile has started offering MPEG4 video messaging on the Nokia 7650 with a modified software created by the Finnish company Hantro. This is the European debut of the service that allows users to record, save and play back video sequences, up to a maximum of 95 Kbs in size, on their mobile phone. Clips can be transmitted and received to/from peers via (MMS) e-mail."
finally, i can have pr0n on my phone.
Email the expression on my face when i get the bill (-:
Now I can actually film the feds as they take me away for violating the DMCA with this software.
Too bad the P800 will probably cost something like $800.... But I bet they will mod the P800 to record video, as well. Too bad the camera points away from the LCD screen -- most of the video I would shoot would be of myself, for a video email to a friend or family member. Clumsy to not be able to see the screen when shooting yourself.
Maybe I'll just get a Hiptop. Out now, apparently. To be officially released on October 1st via CompUSA/T-Mobile.
Isn't that a measure of streaming speed, and not absolute size?
In any case, one can think up of many "innocuous" uses facilitated by its innocent facade. "Oh dear, I dropped it again."
Use ISO 8601 dates [YYYY-MM-DD]
It won't be in the US for atleast another decade.
I'm sick of all these cool new G3 toys that only stay outside the US borders.
BEN (dutch provider) supports this also
Great. So theoretically, instead of interrupting movies and lectures with an obnoxious rendition of "Bohemian Rhapsody", cell phones can instead play highly compressed scenes from "Can't Hardly Wait."
I place the blame squarely upon tight pants.
But is 95k worth of video enough to be useful? I mean, even at really low quality, and acknowledging the small resolution of these phones, that still leaves you with quite a short message. On the other hand, the cost of sending that 95k of data to another phone must be high - hell, it costs me a fortune to download a few thousand bytes onto my phone through my web connection.
I read this as the Finnish Company 'Hamtaro'. I've been watching too much Cartoon Network.
Nokia has announced yesterday a new camera phone with ability to record video (and sound) clips, up to 7MB in size [http://www.nokia.com/6650_event/index.html]. It is WCDMA (that's why external antennae, btw) and is capable of (at least) 128kb/s transfer rate in 3G network. It works in GSM networks too, of course, achieving very agreeable transfer rates using GPRS.
Of course, it supports MMS, polyphonic ringing tones, Bluetooth and what-have-you. Large color screen, hefty weight and unbelievable stand-by time.
Do you notice, btw, that phones grow bigger in size nowsdays?
That you can fit decent quality movie clips into a 95kb file. Original article here
-dk
- Weight: 141 g
- Dimensions: 132 x 52 x 25 mm
- Talktime: 2 h 20 min (WCDMA), 2 h 40 min (GSM)
- Standby time: Up to 350 h
- Key features: Integrated camera for taking video and still images, new WCDMA air interface, fast connection: up to 128 kbps, multimedia messaging (MMS), large graphical color display, multitasking: talk and send simultaneously
- Operating frequency: Tri-band mobile phone for WCDMA and GSM 900/1800 networks
- Imaging resolution: Image/video capture at 640x480/128x96, more than 10 frames/second
Full specifications are here.
So althought the product from Hantro is interesting, it seems to unfortunately have entered the market 6-12 months too late to do a difference. These (and better) capabilities will be a standard feature too soon.
but does it run leenux?
Well maybe I didn't look carefully enough, but nowhere do I see mention of mpeg4 encoding, and I actually doubt very much that a mobile phone would be capable of that. Probably more like animated gif or so.
Photos using the Nokia 7650 can be viewed at nokia7650.fotopic.net
I'll try and get round to installing this video stuff and do some messing though. The 7650's not a bad phone, pity Nokia's SDK sucks so much.
Smegma.
Great, I can just see it now... You call in sick to work...
*ring*
Yeah, hi, I'm not going to be able to make it in to work today because I strained my *sound of fingers accidentally hitting button*
*Picture of you standing on beach appears on boss' cell*
Beach? What beach?? No, seriously! Fired? What? Hello? Hello?!
Anyways don't get your hopes high on 3G atleast for a couple of years with this economy.
doh!
to a realistic portable personal concealable full
motion video device. I can't wait. Especially
when the video is automatically shot through the
air to somewhere else and can't be taken away,
destroyed, etc. So many good uses:
#1 When your girlfriend calls you a liar about
where you've been
#2 When the cop lies about what he said and did
in traffic court
#3 When your boss tries to take credit for
something you did
#4 When that coworker gets fitshaced at the
office party
#5 etc.
You get the idea.
The most important thing any republican needs to know.
porn-industry-ready dept.
Come on, stop the flow...
CowboyNeal, just the thought of a huge fat geek 'enjoying' his porn on a tiny screen..*shudder*
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I clicked the video message link and was despondent when I couldn't read the page. Luckily I remembered babelfish... "T-mobile brings mobile communication in motion. The Segeltoern on weekend, the travel in the Cabrio, the first steps of the child. Mad moments, on which you would like to leave spontaneously their friends and acquaintance sharings." I'm sure in it's native German this is high quality commercial-speak, but mad moments made for acquaintance sharings doesn't really work for me =(
Well at least we are never anonynous cowards. Let us know your identity and find for yourself what these ignorant americans can do!
It will be available in the European and Asian market, and isn't scheduled for release until the first half of 2003 (read June...)
So it looks like 7650 still has some time left on the market.
I don't have one
cute... imagine meeting a cute girl, seeing she owns a cute 7650, send her a cute java applet displaying cute flowers on a cute background with a cute music and in the (cute) meantime making cute pictures/videos of this cute girl and sending it to a cute guy like you :)
Videophones have been an abysmal failure in direct wired connections. Why would this feature be popular for cell phones?
People are already worried about traffic accidents [apparently] caused by cell phones. Imagine if people are not only talking on cell phones but also watching them when driving?
this is going to be a money-maker for pornographers...brings a whole new meaning to "dirty phone calls". people already spend £1.50 a minute to download ringtones or £1 a text message with text flirting services, think how much could be made from mobile adult video services...
Video + sound, they must be kidding, they can't even get me a day to go by without saying "What did you say?"
"It is WCDMA (that's why external antennae, btw)" Whatever happened to fractal antennas which can just be flat and lithographed/etched on chip? I read about them years back, and we still have these annoying, breakable, low quality stubs poking out of our phones (and even the ones which are antenna-less just have them on the inside of the casing). This sounded like some kick-ass, instantly applicable and applyable tech to me...so why isn't it being implemented? Anyone?
-- Waht? Tehr's a preveiw buottn?
Do you really need video for that?
ich bin der musikant
mit taschenrechner in der hand
kraftwerk
The Neue Zurcher Zeitung, which features one of the best Media & IT section from any German speaking newspaper tested the MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service) capabilities of the 7650 and the Ericsson T68i three weeks ago.
In a nutshell: It sometimes works. But only if the sender and the receiver both have the same phone. If you have the T68i and I send you an MMS from a Nokia you either get gibberish or nothing at all.
If we have the same phones we also better be with the same carrier, otherwise: see above. Regardless of success you're anyway billed 55euro-cents per message.
After WAP and some exorbitantly overpriced UMTS licenses mobile services could see their third Waterloo here by giving up simplicity and standards and bloating those devices with extremely complex and buggy sub systems, for which they weren't designed for in the first place.
The beauty of SMS lies in its simplicity and its standardization (partially basterdized by carriers in the US), which is adhered to throughout the European GSM network. Adding crappy features that nobody wants or needs and that rarely function the carriers and manufacturers do themselves a disservice.
Besides, I don't think that the business user (the one generating the most revenue) is very interested in sending 95KB video clips (or fotos for that matter) around the world. The guy wants a reliable phone, which is connected without hiccups after leaving the plane in Basel, Barcelona or Bangalore.
ich bin der musikant
mit taschenrechner in der hand
kraftwerk
If the telcos had got their act together and standardised on a single system (like GSM across Europe), then maybe it would be easier for the handset manufacturers to bring these toys to the market.
Imagine, for example, that you had to have a different car radio if you wanted to listen to tunes in the next county over. That would suck. And there probably wouldn't be nearly as many cool and innovative car radios, because the manufacturers were pouring all their budgets into making 15 or 20 versions of each product and their production runs were a fifteenth or a twentieth what they could have been.
I love being able to take my T68 (which I just got flashed to T68i, so I get MMS without the girly case) anywhere in Europe, and knowing that it'll work. I don't love taking my T68 all over Europe and finding that it's far cheaper than in .uk :(
He's talking about it being down the road. The idea that someday we'll all live in a 'max headroom' future where we'll instantly be able to draw full motion video from our personal recorder. He's expounding on the positive things that will come from it. What he's NOT considering is the negative effects. That point will force us into an era of forced moral action at the cost of personal privacy. It will keep everyone honest though so it's probably worth it. Shitheads will suffer.
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Then there's J-phone's video sha-mail which is more like animated-gif mail... but hey.
AU/KDDI's A5301T Toshiba brand video yay.
Costs five bajillion gazillion jillion yen... monthly as Dr. Evil-san and those companies know.
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I'd been wondering where all that spam was suddenly coming from. Thanks, Finland.
At the cost of current GPRS subscriptions, at least here in Holland at 5 euros for 500kb per month, i can think of better ways to spend the bandwidth.
Kind of gives a new meaning to "outcall"
You understand the appeal? Good, can you explain it to me? I have no idea why someone would want one of these( except maybe vanity). It seems to me to be a totally worthless piece of technology. But I could be wrong, that's why I'm asking.
T-online states that the 95kB is the maximum size of a video and that this means about 8 to 15 seconds, depending on the dynamics of the scene.
Their three GPRS-rates are EUR 0.29 per 10kB for occasional use, EUR 10 for 1MB/month and EUR 40 for 20MB/month. So, this makes about EUR 0.02 to 0.26 per second of video.
The Nokia 7650 provides 3.6MB of RAM, but MMS size is limited to 100kB as has been pointed out already.
Video messaging would only take off if users deem a need like SMS, but the average john doe in the west doesn't like to SMS, unlike the feverent asians which deem it like an extending and enhancing their communication languages.
;-)
I remember the japanese were using it and one of their commercials promoting their services shows this guy bowing profusely to appoligize to his girlfriend
But would the average john doe do the same for his girlfriend? Or for other matters?
The other factor would be cost, it's already prohibiting when they first launched data services over GSM/CDMA networks, now even with GPRS i doubt there would be much drop in pricing.It would be nice if telcos were to evaluate their charges for data =)
I predict it would be used first to send porn clips to unsuspecting woman. "Hey honey, here I am spanking my monkey."
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I wonder when will cellphones cease to exist!?
A few years ago, I thought I would have to live with them for the rest of my life *grin & spit*.
SMS, (the new) MMS and what else features the mobile cellphone had had never made me use one.
I can and could use all cellphone features thru my PC but the thing [for me] is I can do a ton more things
on/thru my PC then I could ever on even the fanciest cellphone money can by.
But recently with all these wireless (802,11a & b, or what the future may hold..) access points popping up
here and there everyday everywhere, I start to see a diffrent picture emerge.
[First]-(Pre wireless 802,11...)
We have got to get one thing strait, and that is that both the PC net (the one we call InterNet) and the Cellphone
net (the mobile net) are basically doing the same thing, sending bits forth&back, but in diffrent manner[s].
* One is: Fix (the PC net), while the other is mobile
* One is: Cheap, while the other is expensive (if you compare the two, sending 650 MByte of data : ))
* One is: a lot more Feature Rich Per Cost, while the other is (somewhat) limited per cost
* One is: High Bandwidth, while the other is low bandwidth
* and One has: A high User Count, while the other is trailing behind
And many used both, but in diffrent places; at their job[s] the PC net, on the road the moblie net
[Now]-(Wireless 802,11 comes into our lifes and wanna' play...)
Now things start to change, both the PC net and the Cellphone net are still doing the same thing,
sending bits forth&back, _but_ in the same manner[s].
Now:
* Both are: mobile
* One is: Cheap, while the other is expensive (if you compare the two, sending 650 MByte of data : ))
* One is: a lot more Feature Rich Per Cost, while the other is (somewhat) limited per cost
* One is: High Bandwidth, while the other is low bandwidth
* and One has: A high User Count, while the other is trailing behind
One thing changed! Both got Mobile! Now one has to start comparing which one to use [to sum all the
arguments I thought of, where I'm a bit late to an apointment, to write down right now]
* one that will cost you less money? or more?
* one High Feature Rich per cost? or Low?
I say good byebye to the cellphone [not that I've really _ever_ used one].
And hello usual High Broadband, thou ya' ar't wireless
I don't claim I know more than I know, and if you know you know more than I know, then by all means, let me know.
These are shooted using nokia 7650 and hantros software. It is a mp4 file, at least realplayer was able to get mp4 codec and play files. http://www.sunpoint.net/~nettinayttely/ www.geocities.com/aatukarri/kuvaa.html
Software was distributed by t mobile in germany. t mobile
Friend of mine just called to say he had downloaded Doom for his Nokia 7650! Apparently it worked well, he was pretty enthusiastic about it: More info here!
If you only complain on /., it won't help much. Not that writing them will change the current situation, but maybe they'll act differently in the future. Maybe.
I assume the same goes for Canada? How's the cellphone market there? Is the entire North-American continent incompatible with the rest of the world?
Which reminds me, how come most of the time GSM/GPRS is mentioned in US press, it's referred to as the standard mostly used in Europe and Asia or something similar? AFAIK, most of Africa uses it too, and Australia &c. So it's everyone but North-America - or is South American wireless market just as messed up?
those telco bastards are limiting broadband too. the combined computing power of the desktop pc's attached to the internet is of astronomical proportions and the only thing keeping us from being able to collectively tap it is the fact the telco companies can't see past the end of they're noses to reasons why they shouldn't be driving all the dsl providors out of business.
i work for the elves... we have these 3650's in our hands now *and* can use t-mobile sims with them. sms and mms work, along with wap and xhtml browser. you just gotta have one and know where to set your access points to :))
I think this whole thing is getting a bit out of hand - I mean: gadgets nowadays do everything - you have watches that have built in address books, calenders, altimeters, weather forecasters, TV/Video/MD remote controls; cellphones that have games, icq, internet (p0rn...), cameras and who knows what else that will come out. It seems that lots of things are merging into do-it-all devices... I think it won't be long till things start merging on a wider scale. Maybe one day we'll have a single gadget that does everything... I mean everything... scary.
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