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Sharp 3D Monitor Next Year
dOxxx writes "Sharp is bringing out a 3D monitor next year that requires no special glasses. It took them one day to convert Quake to work with the monitor. They are already selling cellphones in Japan for the NTT DoCoMo network with scaled-down versions of the screen."
For example, the 3D images are best viewed from 40 centimeters away
My eyes! They burn, they burn!!
If someone says something to the effect of "Think what this will do for porn", I will kick his nuts. Think what THAT will do for porn.
...a Beowulf cluster of these? What will this do for virtual orgies?!?!? This is a great time to be alive.
In the end, the brain formulates the signals so that the image appears to be a three-dimensional object, Nakagawa said.
if MP3's can damage your ears, then what's this gonna do to my eyes and brain!?!?!?
First: I thought. cool. Sercond: Read the article. Yep, it's nothing special.
As opposed to those damned dull 3D monitors...
Think what this will do for porn.
I seem to remember reading about this, or something very similar before.
The image depth relies on the system drawing the image on one of two physical layers and the distance between the two layers and the viewers position creates the 3D image.
Would there be any advantage in using more than two layers?
How long before some bozo starts making 3D ASCII Art? You KNOW someone will...
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I, for one, can't wait to see this. After seeing the psuedo-3D farce that was those supposed "glasses" that worked in conjunction with Direct3D, it would be a nice change to actually get some close-to-3D images. It would sure come in handy with my gaming, because it's hard for me to judge distance in gaming; I have a hard time approximating model height.
Hey, think what this will dooOOOOOOGHHHHHHH!
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I saw one of these at Sharp Space Town in Japan while looking for the new Zaurus C700, which incidentaly wasn't at that location. The monitor was very hard to look at, the different layers were very distinct and it was like looking at two images superimposed at different height. Was neat when you got just the right viewing angle, but pretty hard to maintain... you'd probably have to get a neck brace and not move your head at all =)
3D nut-kickin' S&M porn! my favorite!
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Can you imagine the poor sap that is sitting with his face just about 1.3 feet away from his screen with a TV card on his/her computer watching the big fight or some huge sports event?
"I have a cramp in my neck and I haven't moved out of this uncomfortable position in 3 hours but MY GOD... It looks like I'm gonna get sacked when they rush the quarterback! The chiropractor bills are worth it!"
"Want some chips?"
"I can barely BREATHE without the image distorting, let alone eat man!"
Let's hope they improve this before unleashing it on the masses.
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Do I now have to duck before a popup window cleans me up?
Would it really kill zdnet to include a picture with stories like this? I couldn't even find a link to the company the whole article was about. I can live w/ their obvious biases, but really, at least include a picture or at least a link to a picture.
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So if I use two of these, set up in a typical side-by-side configuration, and I use them to display a pair of slightly-different, slightly-stereo 3D images, and I deep-focus my eyes to bring these two already-3D images together to become one, will I go blind?
...but I don't think that's possible.
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I saw a picture of one of these things on the web, but it looked pretty 2-D to me.
Damn JPEG Compression! My eyes hurt!
None. But somehow I'm sure one-handed web surfers everywhere are celebrating.
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Whenever I can I try to bring in a Shadowrun Reference. Hopefully without glasses, and hopefully soon they'll eliminate the box, and then eliminate the viewing angle and we'll have the wonderful world of trideo that will revolutionize TV viewing!
Oh wait, same crap, new dimension.
"3 Dimensions and not a damn thing to watch." *rimshot* *tomato splat*
Will this lower prices on normal Flat Panel Displays? It appears a 3D display would cost way more, thus making lower-end displays else less desirable, thus lowering their prices.
Imagine the future to of the interfaces and desktops, You could have true 3D layering of windows. Imagine flippping though folder heirachies in 3D.
I think you could also do some amazing screen savers. Flying Windows that look like they are going to clonk you in the head.
How long till we get OS support for these babies?
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Ow! My Eye!
Microsoft and standards. Heh. Taking bets on wether the next Windows version will horribly ignore their own standards or not. :)
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But, perhaps that's because I'm already using the Zaurus as a mobile platform for medical technology. And, I'm married.
Just goes to show that interpretation (and application) is dependent on the interpreter's context. . . (:
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I keep hearing that. Does it actually mean anything, or stand for anything in particular? It is an unusual name.
THAT would require the "special glasses" mentioned...
Okay, so using an adjusted version of Quake doesn't count as being additional software? No additional software required seems a bit misleading in this case. Will we need a special patch for each new program? If so, who will offer/code these patches? The game developers or the monitor manufacturers?
free ipod? yeah.
True that LCD's are pretty, lightweight to carry, ect. These 3D LCD monitors seem pretty neat, I can feel the eye strain from it already. Anyone that has spent over 4 hours playing any game knows that a CRT with a refresh rate of 100hz can keep your eyeballs from popping out of their sockets.
On the other hand, LCD's look smart, and will get you hand jobs from women you don't even know! Of course, after 4 hours of gaming on this thing you'll be blind as a bat, so it won't matter if she looks like Nicole Bass from the Howard Stern show or Hally Berry. You're eyes will neatly pop out of their sockets from the low refresh rate strain.
LCD is simply too slow to have an effective refresh rate for 3D. OLED's look promising, since they don't have any moving parts to rely on. (LCD crystals change orientation when a current is passed through them (i.e. moving part)
Gotta love these gimmicks though..
Hope that it will work with OpenGL/Linux and not only DirectX/Windows since Microsoft is a member of "3d standard group something...".
People with one eye that is far weaker than the other cannot use them. Irritating. Nerve Regeneration had better come along quickly, I want the rest of my Optic nerve. . . .
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Although several companies have come out with Web browser software and other technology to make images appear to pop off the screen, the Web largely remains a two-dimensional world.
Banner ads, popup ads... popoff ads... coming soon to a Sharp 3D monitor near you!
So will this hurt your vision in the same way those audio formats purportedly hurt your hearing... Wait a minute... Do current displays hurt your vision in the same way that the audio formats purporedly hurt your hearing? They are nowhere near the same resolution as real life and forget about depth perception... Hmm, perhaps I should ask if the new displays improve your vision over the old ones.
...but they're a little too late...
For all the information you could possibly care about, see the last time /. discussed this monitor: Here
Woudn't it be fun to see the pictures of a 3-D display on a 2-D monitor.
Would really appreciate the third dimension!
This one was actually funny
3d cell phones. Just wow.... This is going WAY too far. Only in Japan...
...that's what I'M talking about! Gawd, I hope it gets cheap Real Soon Now.
The article states :
"Sharp envisions a time when complete computers will be embedded into monitors"
Maybe they should have a look at an iMac some day.
... usually in the form of a biggish box.
Oh-- it displays things in 3D?! Was that in the article?
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"Turning traditional 2D 'Quake' into a 3D program took only a day, Nakagawa said."
Since when is Quake 2D? When it came out, it was "the first real 3d game".
...will be the "Magic Eye Monitor," where you have to look just the right way for several hours before you can see whats on the screen.
This will be a kind of a sequel product, specifically marketed to the people whose eyes have been permanently crossed from the 3D model.
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Does anyone know where to see these things live. Any Screenshot will be useless. I am just wondering how good they are.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Saw one from another company. Kinda interesting but you have to be pretty much fixed at the one point (40 centimeter, blah blah), if you move slightly left or right, you will see two images, and move more further then you see the correct image again. also they cut the resolution half since they use odd number lines for one image (left), even number lines for the other (right). One i saw was 1024x768 and the image (512x768) was kinda nostalgic VGA image.
If the price is right, can be a nice secondary monitor but the one i saw was too expensive. 17inch was like 3or4K
that could really do the same SFII did in the 90's. Those monitor will cost lot more than consummer monitor for a long time but arcade could afford that (at the same time , why not revisit the price and put it back to 25cent again).
Virtua Fighter 5 would be perfect game to use that.
Earlier this year, the company showed off an LCD panel with an embedded Zilog microprocessor.
Sega did that years ago!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/technology/chi-02121 2playboy.story
"Imagine playboy video game + 3D touch screen
Arush, which produced "Duke Nuken: Manhattan Project," said it would publish the Playboy game for the PC and consoles.
Here titty titties.... !
Game:
User: hmmm nice biggens
Game: The model slaps you in the face
Sounds like a lot of fun will soon be had with a 3D monitor. No doubt even more fun could be had with a 3D monitor which comes with "touch screen" capabilities! Then all we need is a suitable game.... oh wait there's one due out in 2004 !!!
l ogy/chi-02121 2playboy.story
"...Playboy Enterprises Inc. has linked with video game publisher Arush Entertainment to produce the first mainstream title that features a Playboy theme....."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/techno
What I'm really psyched about is the Erotech FP-1000 fake pussy computer peripheral coming out next year. You can plug it into your USB port and have someone jack you off remotely on the Internet! It plugs into MSN messenger so you can chat with the person jacking you off.
That is progress. Love not war.
We bought a similar LCD monitor for testing at work one and half year ago. It "supports" several viewers at once by alternating between the left and right image in several vertical "beams". There has been several stories about these monitors before.
It works quite well, but it is really a pain in the a** (neck?) to use.
I'd like to get excited but its already been done.
Hopefully competition will reduce the time it takes for this to be added to commodity hardware.
Haha thats ridiculous. LCDs don't have a refresh rate.
What is interesting though is that after using LCD for the last year, 75hz CRTs look like crap and its easy to tell the difference between 75hz and 85hz crts. Before LCD, 75hz crts looked great.
Now if your talking about "ghosting", that has been eliminated on most LCDs except for the crap brands.
hmmm... What would happen if you were blind in one eye? Would you see a 2d image or a bunch of stripy garbage?
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Give the guy a break. It might actually widen the angle under which a group could look at the image.
dvl
some people don't have the option to correct the vision in a weaker eye. People suffering from degenerative diseases (or hell, flat out blindness in one eye) can't always put on a pair of glasses and compensate for the problem. Not all vision loss is caused by something that a lens can correct!
Only if you have more than two eyes.
What boggles the mind is how many layers you'd need to enable fly-vision!
=P
They actually had these on display at the Electronica show in Munich this year. The effect is impressive and works well. The horizontal resolution is fairly low and if you move past the display you get this wierd 'popping' image. You need to stay stationary for the best effect. I got the impression that there was some type of fresnel lens on the fronts of the panel. Cant wait until the resolution goes up!
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It sounds like they are really proud of getting 3d without having to wear glasses...
1. No possible variance in viewing angle mentioned.
2. Good results only at 40cm.
So... even though this thing does not touch your head, you have to lock your head in synch with it for good results.
I think I'd rather wear the glasses.
I can't wait for the day when people have these and popup ads start popping up on the screen in 3D. If you thought those X-Cam ads were annoying now, just wait until they jump out at you.
We should declare a moratorium on the usage of "3d" on any display technology that doesn't involve either a) providing seperate images to each eye, or b) Holotanks.
On the other hand, I guess they should have called my 17" monitor 3D...it takes up width, breadth and depth on my desktop.
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My guess would be 2.
Flys do not have hundreds of eyes, they have hundreds of small directional tubes, with each one leading to something similar to a rod in our eyes. The tubes only accept light in one direction therefor the combination of many of these tube/rod devices acts something similar to the lense in our eyes.
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This may be useless but CNET also has the same article here
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There are some 3D scenes that it makes sense to watch that way: 3D molecules, geometric models, etc. But I wouldn't expect the experience to be too realistic for 3D games or pr0n. But realistic or not, I suppose it might still be fun.
We perceive 3D shape in many ways. Stereo vision, which these displays provide is only one, and not really the most important one (many people don't have stereo vision at all). I think what would be much more exciting for games are displays with head tracking and peripheral vision; those give you much more of a feeling of "being there" than stereo vision. The ways to create such immersive displays is via something like "the Cave" (very expensive all-around projection) or head-mounted displays; both are unfortunately still expensive, but technologically, they are perhaps simpler than attempts at providing stereo vision.
I was allready going to get a new monitor next year, i wonder how much these will cost or will it drop normal monitor prices dramatically.
I wish that monitor will either be around normal monitor prices or not much above it or it would result to drop the prices of regular monitors ^_^
It would for sure to be kewl to play Quake with that one =)
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Maybe it's UT2003's midget player models...
Gamers will be earlier adopters, and spend inordinate amounts of time in front of these in a virtual (or real?) head clamp. As a result they will suffer "frozen neck" syndrome. I had a frozen shoulder once, the physical therapy was incredibly painful. Lawsuits to follow.
Just speculation...
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I have no depth-perception ("you insensitive clod!"), so what you see on 2D monitor is probably pretty close to what I see in real life. I don't think I'll be buying one of these monitors anytime soon.
I use shutter glasses, and it is ALMOST beleivable to be 3d.. The biggest problem is the focus... your eyes stay focused at the screen level, which takes a bit of getting used to. This, for me, is a pain and it gets annoying having to do that, so I am reminded that I am not really seeing 3d, but just looking at a flat screen. My $0.02
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