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Asterix and Mobilix Redux

eguaj writes "I thought the "Obelix vs. Mobilix" case was over, and that the Mobilix web site had definitely won in the first instance, but this morning I saw this mail , on the linux-laptop mailing list, stating that 'Les Éditions Albert René' went into appeal and they managed to overturn the first decision, and now the Mobilix.org site will have to withdraw his domain name, pay the compensation fee, etc. Mobilix.org is a web site dedicated to Linux/Unix on mobile devices (laptop, pda, cell. phones), and they ruled that "Mobilix" was too much similar to "Obelix" and that people could take one for the other." For Americans: Asterix and Obelix are well-known French cartoon characters (think: Mickey and Goofy).

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  1. not disney? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    somehow its reasuring that europa isn't that much better than america. then again, would this even be newsworthy if it where done by disney, or just expected?

    1. Re:not disney? by Herby+Werby · · Score: 1, Funny

      These guys are just wanting to Getafix

    2. Re:not disney? by Panoramix · · Score: 1

      Indeed. But everyone knows that these Gauls are crazy, by Toutatis!

      Beati pauperes spiritu, I'd say.

  2. Oh fuck off already. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Listen, I'm bilingual, and only in French can that sound similar, and even then, only if you're dyslexic.

    1. Re:Oh fuck off already. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its pronounced differnetly, but it looks pretty similar. and on the internet, you will usually read text, instead of hearing it

    2. Re:Oh fuck off already. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are total differents things, You have the same name for totally diferent products in any country. Saying that Obelix is like Mobilix, then means that Helix and Obelizco and Felix are more looks like. The only way is to boicot all their cartoon products!!!.

    3. Re:Oh fuck off already. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Worse than that, this logic requires choosing a name where nothing around the world has similar sound nor appearance -- in any language. Also, sounds in some places are written differently in other places/languages/alphabets, and sometimes are officialy changed (Remember "Peking"!).

      Let's see.. "Argentina" is natively pronounced with the rolling "r", so anything with an "arrgh" sound is related -- so "The Simpsons" owners can't create a nautical web site with a name related to the sea captain's most common utterance, or there is a conflict with someone who has a product named after a country.

  3. Mickey and Goofy by jjjefff · · Score: 1

    Nice reference... That does sound like something Di$ney would do...

    1. Re:Mickey and Goofy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Mickey and Goofy - duh. Even if it is incredible sometimes and sounds like science fiction, there is intelligent life outside the US borders. The Web and Linux were developed outside the US, for one. And who are Mickey and Goofy?

    2. Re:Mickey and Goofy by ackthpt · · Score: 1
      Nice reference... That does sound like something Di$ney would do...

      Well, Les Éditions Albert René certainly has the 'goofy' part downpat. They must be a 'mickey mouse' outfit, to draw confusion between two such dissimilar names, further, the court has to be 'goofy' to issue such an opinion. I hate to think of such a fiasco in the US, but I amd sure someone could point me towards more than a few.

      If mobilix was a cartoon or comic, they might have a leg, though tenuous. If the comic or cartoon featured a small and large pair of characters looking like vikings and raiding england, the case would be pretty strong. But as it's a portal for mobile un*x and Asterix, nor Obelix are pushing information or handheld tools, I'm convinced the real confusion is in the court.

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    3. Re:Mickey and Goofy by koh · · Score: 1

      The funny thing is that the original creator of Asterix and Obelix characters died a while ago, and "Les Editions Albert René" was founded after his death IIRC.

      Of course, the one author remaining had a hard time making a buck for a while (sorry, Uderzo, you can't write. Get over it.). Then the recent movies put the cartoon back in tracks mostly because of overhype (though the second movie is at least funny).

      And now what ? A book editing company, founded after the death of the original writer, claims sites need to be put down because their soundex threshold is set too low ? How... modern.

      We should have been warned though... Obelix is a little bully and not that smart in the cartoon after all :)

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    4. Re:Mickey and Goofy by bklock · · Score: 1

      Yes, now I'm just waiting for Disney to try the same game and get Minix renamed for sounding a little to much like "Minnie" as in "Minnie Mouse". After that isn't there a cartoon character from Peanuts named Linus? Well there goes linux.org, Its only one letter off! They must be typo-squatting!

    5. Re:Mickey and Goofy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > sites need to be put down because their
      > soundex threshold is set too low ? How...
      > modern.
      >
      In other news, Asterisk(TM) is suing Asterix(TM)' company because their cartoon characters name infringes on the intellectual property of the Asterisk company. "We claim prior art...just look at this sturdy IBM clanker keyboard from 1969. It certainly has already an asterisk clearly visible". Since consumers might easily confuse their heavy IBM keyboard and it's characters with characters from the Asterix(TM) cartoon, the Asterisk company thinks, Asterix should change his name to something less similar. "We also demand, that asterix.com stops using their UN*X webserver, since that too infringes on our trademarked symbol!"
      Neither Asterix(TM) nor Obelix(TM) nor UN*X(TM) could be reached for comments.

  4. This is ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This has bad repurcussions for 'names' in general. :(

  5. At least... by xamel · · Score: 0

    ..its not just us in the US w/ really freaking stupid copyright laws...>=(

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  6. M is far away from O by Neophytus · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They can hardly be accused of typo-cybersquatting if the O is two rows up and a bit right from the M. Perhaps spoken errors could come into play, but this sounds like quite a petty case. And who the fuck would mistake a PDA site for a Cartoon site?

    1. Re:M is far away from O by Infamous+Tim · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Even less of an issue if said person is using a Dvorak keyboard. The M and O keys are basically on opposite sides (as they should be).

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    2. Re:M is far away from O by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't help me, I frequently reflex type the wrong word.

      I think "delete table_fullacrap where"
      But type "select table_fullacrap where"
      I think it's because dele and sele are so simila on the KB, that I get reflexed away into typing a ct instead of a te.

      That's my most frequent reflex typo that I'm awaire of. Maybe if there was a way for me to type even faster (say as fast as I can think) then the typo's would go away, (probably 400+ WPM).

      I sutter, repeat and missout words in my speech frequently, bacause I talk half the speed I think at.

      So don't complain about my spelling, I have a hard enough time trying to remeber what I was thinking about, let alone how to spell it.

    3. Re:M is far away from O by TheMidget · · Score: 1
      They can hardly be accused of typo-cybersquatting...

      Especially since this site is still alive and kicking.

    4. Re:M is far away from O by Spunk · · Score: 1

      Seriously. I'm a C programmer and I find it hard to type the word "print" without adding a silent f at the end.

  7. Crispix cereal too? and Epix too? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about Crispix cereal? Sounds too much like what would be the name of the guy in Asterix' village who always overcooks the roast boar.

    Epix image hosting on eBay? The lady in the village who needs to use an Epliady (not hard to find in any French village for that matter.

    Appendix? Can't use that one either. That is the guy who keeps trying to add extra verses to Cacaphonix's tales.

    Phoenix, Arizona? Better change your name, you copyright-violating town.

    1. Re:Crispix cereal too? and Epix too? by yeti+(dn) · · Score: 1

      I think the next one is IRIX ;-)

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  8. stupid laws by LinuxCumShot · · Score: 3, Funny

    how long before they make us pry the '8' key off of all our keyboards?

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    1. Re:stupid laws by charon_on_acheron · · Score: 1

      You didn't get that memo last week? Well everyone else did, you must have deleted it without reading it again. Just pry off the 8 key, and we'll pretend nothing happened.

  9. Hostnames... by dark-br · · Score: 2, Interesting
    How long til they start bitching about hostnames? I guess im not the only one to use obelix.mydomain.com or asterix.mydomain.com.

    America, home of the free (and of DMCA, RIAA etc)

    1. Re:Hostnames... by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, you're not alone. I have seen those at many places. Of course my personal favourite is falbala.mydomain.com ;-)

    2. Re:Hostnames... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, this case is based in Germany, not in America. The 'DMCA, RIAA etc' have absolutely nothing to do with it. RTFA.

  10. Mobile phone company by virve · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But Mobilix is (well, was) a mobile phone company around here. Owned by France Telecom as far as I recall. Now it is called Orange.

    Could this not have influence on this issue, i.e. that the name has been previously used without Obelix and his Gaul friends objecting?

    Just a thought!

    virve
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    1. Re:Mobile phone company by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 1

      Here we have "Mobilux"... Now really, while I like the comics of Asterix and Obelix this lawsuit is really stupid.

    2. Re:Mobile phone company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note:Mobilix is useless. Customer service? Yeah, right. Time to change to TDC, where they do things properly!

    3. Re:Mobile phone company by macrom · · Score: 1

      One thing I don't understand is related to your comment. The article says that there is a German children's furniture store by the same name, Mobilix. In Germany, the website is not in violation of trademark laws as the 2 entities operate in different trades. So how can 2 companies with 1 name in 2 different trades be allowed but not 2 different entities with 2 different (but similar) names in 2 different trades?

      Sounds to me like the US isn't the only place with a fucked up sense of legalism.

  11. verdict by ability to pay by Alain+Williams · · Score: 3

    This just underlines the injustice of the courts. I suspect that it was as much decided on who knew who and who had the biggest pockets - always a big factor in a trial.

    Life would be much more pleasant if there were no lawyers.

    1. Re:verdict by ability to pay by Rary · · Score: 1
      >> Life would be much more pleasant if there were no lawyers.

      Correction: Life would be much more pleasant if people didn't hire lawyers for stupid selfish greedy reasons.

      The problem is not lawyers, the problem is the way that people use lawyers. Lawyers are but a tool. And a useful one, too, when you really need one.

      "Every tool is a weapon, if you hold it right." -- Ani DiFranco

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    2. Re:verdict by ability to pay by evilad · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's a little harsh. I once met a lawyer who wasn't a complete tool.

    3. Re:verdict by ability to pay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually lawyers are all complete tools.

    4. Re:verdict by ability to pay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess this was due to incompetence rather than injustice. In this case, I mean. I am not sure what is worse, though.

    5. Re:verdict by ability to pay by neitzsche · · Score: 1

      While some of the blame belongs on the people hiring lawyers, the bad lawyers themselves are not without blame!

      Lawyers have absolutely no inhibitions about acting illegally. They should have some amount of self control, but most of the time they do not exhibit any. In my legal encounters, almost all lawyers (and all judges) behave unethically.

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  12. Would disney sue "i-amfucking-goofy.com" by sisukapalli1 · · Score: 1

    Seems like it, since there is a string "goofy" in there..

  13. No more unix !!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    This sets a dangerous precedent. Next to be wiped out will be Unix, which sounds too similar to the name of the eunuch in the Asterix books. (We won't even talk about Linux, the guy with the blanket).

  14. Mickey and Goofy? by DerPflanz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Euh, nice comparison (not!). Mickey and Goofy are cool, I like them, but you can't possible compare them to Asterix and Obelix. FYI, it is a (apparently not so) well known fact that Asterix and Obelix have add more to the knowledge of classical history then classical education. A lot of things in the strip (not cartoon) are genuine. You can actually learn stuff from Asterix. So, I'd say go out and read some.

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    1. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its a reasonable comparison, because every french nows asterix and co, just like every american knows mickey. i guess its also to remind people of disney, /. enemy #3

    2. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by DerPflanz · · Score: 1

      I mistyped. English is not my mother tongue, so please forgive me.

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    3. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by DerPflanz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I then guess telling Asterix is a cartoon character is just enough said. Why comparing it to a character that has nothing to do with it?

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    4. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 1

      Not only that... You can actually get some Asterix and Obelix comics in Latin. I remind reading excerpts in my Latin classes. I actually have "Asterix Gallus". Really cool :-)

    5. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, now I feel kind of like a jerk. I should have seen your name, I just see so many American natives miss using then and than on here.

    6. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by lovebyte · · Score: 1

      The Asterix comics are based on stereotypes. The same thing could be said about the French, Italians, Belgians, Corsicans, Spaniards, Greeks, Arabs, English, Swiss, Germans, etc ...
      You are thinking about Tintin which is sometimes racist.

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    7. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by denisbergeron · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think you are hypersensible to the color. But, Asterix, it's a parodie of Idées Reçus.

      French just want to battle, drink Wine and eat Pork.
      Italian, speak all the time of pasta with they hand
      British people stop the battle à 5 for the tea
      German have "WWII" helmet, and they battle one again the other of a yes or a no
      Spanish, always say Olé and get a guitar from nowhere to follow the rythm.

      Put you feet on earth, Black are Black.
      And in the majority of the stories, African Black are most intelligent of the forein (none gaulois) people !

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    8. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by isaac · · Score: 1
      The Asterix comics are based on stereotypes. The same thing could be said about the French, Italians, Belgians, Corsicans, Spaniards, Greeks, Arabs, English, Swiss, Germans, etc ...

      That's not also racist? Asterix is all crap stereotypes - it is racist trash. (Perhaps ethnist would be a better word? I mean racist in the sense of stereotyping people by their origin, not just skin colour.)

      You are thinking about Tintin which is sometimes racist.

      Tintin is also racist, but I am talking about Asterix and Obelix.

      -Isaac

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    9. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by blurfus · · Score: 1

      I guess just to compare how popular (or well-known) these cartoon characters are in Europe.

      For those who have never heard of them, in this case mostly North Americans (since they make up a large portion of the slashdot readers) but also for those who, regardless of geographical location, do not know who these characters are...

      The writer just wanted to indicate popularity and nothing more, IMHO...

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    10. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by Panoramix · · Score: 1
      Right, like how Africans are big-lipped, easily-cowed savages. Asterix and Obelix is racist trash - there's a reason you don't see it much in the US outside foreign language courses (and even there one only sees the most sanitized version).

      Geez. Which goes to say that tou Americans have lost absolutely all sense of humour.

      See, I'm Mexican. You could say I'd be sick by now of the sleepy-fat-short-brown-big-moustached-lazy-bum- leaning-on-a-cactus-under-a-big-charro-hat Mexican stereotype...

      But Lucky Luke's Mexicans (by René Goscinny, writer of Asterix & Obelix), which are precisely that, are fucking hilarious.

    11. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by SavingPrivateNawak · · Score: 1

      Less racists than the americans.

      Are you american? If so, do you really hang out with black people? Do you feel frightened/oppressed when you see a group of black people in the subway?

      I remember an american telling me how he was surprised seeing all these black people in Paris, him feeling not really being in France... stereotyped and strange, isn't it?

    12. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well rated, moderator. There is a time and a place for being a politically correct wanker with a bug up your ass. Unfortunately this isn't it.

    13. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by Kizeh · · Score: 1

      Curiously enough, Disney is known for Donald Duck & co more than for Mickey in Europe. At least the Scandinavian weekly comic books and pocket books also contain a reasonable amount of actual cultural knowledge, though nowhere near that of Asterix. They also have thriving and neat fan clubs and reader service. Anyhow, I've learned a lot of little strange trivia from my childhood with European Disney comics, be it about El Dorado, shrinking heads or the different sizes of wine bottles. I don't think most of this material was ever published in any meaningful fashion in the US, the more the shame.

    14. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by charon_on_acheron · · Score: 1

      "he was surprised seeing all these black people in Paris, "

      Reminds me of when I would watch Teletubbies with my daughter. They have video clips of kids and families, I don't know if people send them in, or if the shows makers go out and videotape people. Half of the videos are of black families. I never knew half of England was black, but from watching this show, it seems to be that way.

    15. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by Iffy+Bonzoolie · · Score: 1

      I just see so many American natives miss using then and than on here.

      I miss using "then" and "than," too. It's been so long...

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    16. Re:Mickey and Goofy? by aminorex · · Score: 1

      The intelligence of the slashdot readership is ridiculed
      by the moderation of my comment. Irony is wasted on the
      moronic.

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  15. Just brew some magic potion by Vendekkai · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's 2003 AD, and all the Internet is occupied by the powerful IP empire. All? No, a little village of indomitable freedom fighters still hold out, assisted by their druid Getafix's magic potion, freenet.

    1. Re:Just brew some magic potion by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Possibly so, but I won't be buying any more.

      I'm a but dubious about the practical effects of boycotting, but when that's the only available action, that's what I do.

      I belong to a rather strange religion, paying to watch movies by an MPAA member studio is a sin. Paying for RIAA approved music is a sin. And now there are even comic books that I can neither buy nor resell. But these are freely choosen self-imposed obligations. I don't expect others to adhere to my peculiar sect. But you might consider that I find it has rewards.

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    2. Re:Just brew some magic potion by Panoramix · · Score: 1

      Look, if you're going to use it for your petty Emacs vs Vi, Linux vs BSD nonsense, you can forget about druidic brew for a long time.

      On the other hand, if you're going to use it for taking over the MPAA, or Microsoft... Just let me gather some mistletoe...

  16. Felix the Cat next? by linuxislandsucks · · Score: 1

    given that reasoning Felix the cat is net?

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    1. Re:Felix the Cat next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny
      Felix the cat is net?

      No, Felix the cat is gross .

  17. Sue, sue, sue...til all the cases have been won by FungiSpunk · · Score: 1

    This is as bad as the legal case the Russian gov is bringing up that the Russian premier looks like that that wrinkly little fart Doddy in Harry Potter! Just bears out the old joke. What do you call a dead layer? A good start.

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    1. Re:Sue, sue, sue...til all the cases have been won by AGMW · · Score: 1
      Doddy in Harry Potter

      Er ... Dobby dude!

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    2. Re:Sue, sue, sue...til all the cases have been won by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you call a dead layer? A good start.
      What do youhave against hookers? Or construction workers?

    3. Re:Sue, sue, sue...til all the cases have been won by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good one. Here are a few more obvious typographical errors for you to correct, since that seems to be the extent of your contribution:

      teh
      grammer
      it's'

    4. Re:Sue, sue, sue...til all the cases have been won by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you call a dead layer? A good start.

      Q: What do you call 500 lawyers buried up to their necks in sand?
      A: Not enough sand.

      Q: How do you save a drowning lawyer?
      A: Throw him a rock.

  18. Re:Mobilix/Obelix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    two is not 'essentially one'. back to reality with you.

  19. What about asterisk.org ? by drasfr · · Score: 1

    What about asterisk.org, the opensource PBX, isn't it VERY similar to Asterisk's trademark ?

    How can they not sue them ? It's not even similar, it's the same ! People can get much more confused.

    1. Re:What about asterisk.org ? by vano2001 · · Score: 1

      What about Obelisk ? obelisk n. 1. A tall, four-sided shaft of stone, usually tapered and monolithic, that rises to a pointed pyramidal top. 2. Printing. The dagger sign (), used especially as a reference mark. Also called dagger, obelus. From http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=obelisk&r =3 BTW do a whois obelisk.org ...

    2. Re:What about asterisk.org ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Forget all that, you gotta think BIG!! Sue the Asterisk. You know, the actual symbol on your keyboard!

      Let's see, .01 per incident x 100 million keyboards with asterisks, x 20 Billion Asterisks on various documents, hmmm....

      And while they're at it, these comic guys should sue the Ancient Greeks, Romans, or whoever it was who made actual Obelisks in the first place 5000 years ago and foolishly violated their copyright. The interest payments will be awesome.

      Also, Apple should sue God for being wacky enough to invent a fruit with their name on it. Tsk, tsk. Big mistake. Huge.

  20. What's next? by Koos+Baster · · Score: 1

    Obelix vs. Mobilix, Windows vs. Lindows, ... I guess we can expect cases like Equator vs. Equador now. (Or New York vs. York, Slovenia vs. Slovakia, Washington state vs. Washington DC, Indians vs. Indians, ...)

    Whatever, why not?

    1. Re:What's next? by AGMW · · Score: 5, Funny
      Obelix vs. Mobilix, Windows vs. Lindows

      Let's call the whole thing off!

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    2. Re:What's next? by ch-chuck · · Score: 1

      Don't forget 'Austria' vs 'Austrailia' - I always get those two countries mixed up.

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    3. Re:What's next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. One of them is .au and the other one isn't. But which is it?

    4. Re:What's next? by shams42 · · Score: 1

      Or Ohio State vs. Ohio?

      No, really...

    5. Re:What's next? by cranos · · Score: 1

      Now imagine combining Arnold Schwazneggar and the Crocodile Hunter.

    6. Re:What's next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Now imagine combining Arnold Schwazneggar and
      > the Crocodile Hunter.
      >
      "Naughty little T-1000. I'll be back!!"

  21. Go to Russia by samjam · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Withdraw the domain name? French don't control the .org registry I think; all they need to do is sell the domain name for a nominal amount "to help them recover legal costs" to someone not based in France who will continue to host the service.

    Why should the French care? What if Obelix was similar to an ancient mythical Hindu character (to pick an unlikely case at random) that's been around a lot longer; it would be foolish to suggest Obelix stop being used if that occurs; (especially as far as I can tell Obelix is a play on Obelisk (those Menhir things he makes)).

    By this argument Mobilix should be left alone even if it is similar, and who cares if the French get confused, what about the rest of the world. Will we stop everything if we can find one nation that has some citizens that might confused by it?

    An offender because of a word indeed!

    Sam

    1. Re:Go to Russia by Ieshan · · Score: 1

      It's a play on the Latin word for our english "Obelisk", just like "Asterix" is a play on "Aster", the star.

      There are other characters with other similar latinate names, as the show is a cartoon that also intends to teach classical history - it gets reprinted in almost (maybe "more than"?) a dozen languages and actually gets used in Latin classes in the states.

    2. Re:Go to Russia by bartjan · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is not a case in France, but one in Germany, started by a german lawyer against a german company.

    3. Re:Go to Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps the heirs of Gaius Julius Caesar ought to sue the owners of the Asterix comics... after all, there is a clear resemblance to names, characters, and events from De Bello Gallico.

    4. Re:Go to Russia by Kosi · · Score: 1

      It's even translated in several different German dialects!

    5. Re:Go to Russia by kalidasa · · Score: 0

      It's a play on the Latin word for our english "Obelisk", just like "Asterix" is a play on "Aster", the star.

      More a play on "asterisk," from asteriscus / a)ste/riskos, "little star," referring to the star shaped glyph we all know and love.

    6. Re:Go to Russia by zeitoun · · Score: 1

      This is not a case in France, but one in Germany, started by a german lawyer against a german company.

      A german lawyer appointed by a local antenna of the French editor "Albert René".

  22. Ah... French people... by PeDRoRist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sometimes you just have to be ashamed of your compatriots. Funnily enough, the owners of the Asterix & Obelix trademark didn't try anything against the french spatial agency when it named one of its first commercial space rockets after the comic book hero (that was in the 60s, IIRC)

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    1. Re:Ah... French people... by lovebyte · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why is it that each time some American company does something wrong, nobody says the Americans this or the Americans that? But when a French or German or whatever company is involved, then everyone complains about the French or German or whatever.

      You should grow up.

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    2. Re:Ah... French people... by PeDRoRist · · Score: 1

      I do not know where you live, but believe me, here in France when an American company does something stupid, we usually DO complain about the US in general. Which is stupid nonetheless.

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    3. Re:Ah... French people... by Zigg · · Score: 1

      Why is it that each time some American company does something wrong, nobody says the Americans this or the Americans that?

      Actually, they do. You haven't been listening hard enough.

    4. Re:Ah... French people... by Khalid · · Score: 1

      This is alas always the case when you are a member of a minority, whenever an arab, or a black, or whatever minority there is in a country does something wrong, people always say (or most of the time think) ah those arabs, or those blacks, or whatever ! maybe this what we call racism. You need to judge peope one by one, whether they did good or bad according to their own personality and not according to their ethnic origin.

  23. The lawyers are a big part of the problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If lawyers refused to take part in frivolous lawsuits, this would not be a problem.

    What do you expect from the guys who try to make someone else pay for a person's clumsiness of spilling hot coffee in their lap (the infamous McDonald's case)

    1. Re:The lawyers are a big part of the problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ... the infamous McDonald's case ...

      Argh. This one bugs me, so I just gotta put in my $0.02, although I'll do it anonymously, since I'm a coward. :)

      Please, read up about the McDonald's case before you go on about how ridiculous it was. There really was a valid case. Here's just one link with some info. There's plenty more. Google will help.

  24. For Americans... by jdreed1024 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    For Americans: Asterix and Obelix are well-known French cartoon characters (think: Mickey and Goofy).

    Only a hell of a lot funnier than that stupid mouse and dog. I'd say a better comparison is Homer and Bart. Mickey and Goofy start to lose their humor once you reach a certain age. Asterix works on so many more levels...

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    1. Re:For Americans... by PeDRoRist · · Score: 2, Informative
      Asterix works on so many more levels..
      Well, a bit less since the death of R. Goscinny, IMO.
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    2. Re:For Americans... by Error27 · · Score: 1

      In Europe Mickey and Goofy are much funnier. Mickey is a smart detective type character.

    3. Re:For Americans... by vrt3 · · Score: 1

      Nope, the whole cartoon is based around the fact that Asterix and Obelix, and the whole village, never surrenders to the Romans.

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    4. Re:For Americans... by joaobranco · · Score: 1

      In Europe Mickey and Goofy are much funnier. Mickey is a smart detective type character.

      Well, this is true, but only in part... You are referring to the Disney Comics, which are the most vibrant part of Disney "Classic" characters usage at the moment (apart from the TV show House of Mouse).

      I do like what the Italian authors did with Mickey (Mickey Mouse Mistery Magazine and so on), but the norm is not uniform in Europe. Danish (Egmont) production places less emphasis on Dectective Mickey and produces much more bland stories.

      But the true authors that created the detective "persona" for Mickey were Americans... Floyd Gottfredson and Paul Murry are the ones who created the Mickey you like.

      Still, it is true that without Disney Comics in the US (luckily that is about to stop) Europe moved ahead in the use of the classic Disney characters. The Italians, as I said, are the ones mostly to watch (if you can read Italian, I suggest the magazine MickeyX that overhauls Mickey in a "terror comics"-like environment).

    5. Re:For Americans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, you could replace the Romans by the Americans and it would still work. In case you haven't noticed, this strip has probably the funniest anti-american humor there is.

      Sure, the Gauls depicted in it look like racists... But aren't we all up to a point?

      The key to enjoy this type of humor is to accept laughing at our own stereotypes and fear. Once you get beyond the first level, it becomes incredibly funny.

    6. Re:For Americans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Errr, no. Sterio types are perpetuated by this kind of trash.

      Ever notice how the racists always try to play off what they say with a "just kidding."

    7. Re:For Americans... by wheany · · Score: 1

      No, Asterix and Obelix are friends.
      Mickey and Goofy are friends.
      Homer and Bart are father and son. And Homer hates Bart.

    8. Re:For Americans... by DigitalCrackPipe · · Score: 1

      Actually, we read Asterix y Obelix comics in high school French. I doubt anyone learns english from Disney cartoons (at least I hope not).

    9. Re:For Americans... by Flower · · Score: 1

      Hey. As long as the French are not learning American English from old Jerry Lewis comedies I consider us all in a better, safer place.

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  25. AT&T to Webster by Infamous+Tim · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sent via: Via Certified Mail, Return Receipt Requested
    Re: Re: Infringements of AT&T Copyrights and Trademarks

    I write as attorney for AT&T Telecommuncations Corporation.

    As you are, no doubt, aware, AT&T owns the rights to ATT, AT&T, or anything relating to or sounding vaguely like the phoenetic sound of "at." These rights are protected by numerous copyrights trademarks.

    We have recently learned that you have have been using the words "at", "attack", "attachment", and any and all words beginning with "AT" in your book entitle the "Dictionary" Your addition of these items in your book is an infringement of AT&T's rights.

    Based upon the foregoing, we hereby demand that your confirm to us in writing within ten days of receipt of this letter that: (i) you have removed all infringing materials from your book; and (ii) you will refrain from adding any similar infringing material in the future.

    The foregoing is without waiver of any and all rights of AT&T Telecommunications Corporation, all of which are expressly reserved herein.

    Very truly yours,

    [Attorney]

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    1. Re:AT&T to Webster by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1

      Obviously, later this Attorney will get sued by another attorney representing AT&T, who will later get sued by another another attorney representing AT&T...

      Wait, recursion wasn't, ah, invented, in AT&T Bell Labs, were they?

  26. Re:Obligatory Frog Bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My thoughts exactly. I could care, but this involves some French coders. France has never helped the U.S. (except when it helped their diplomatic and military plans).

    As it stands, the U.S. is accused of wanting Iraq's oil, and supposedly France is taking the principled stand for peace. Just wait until there's a new government in Iraq. France will be the first ones to show up, their old oil pipeline contracts in hand, asking if their agreements with Saddam are still good with the new government. It's all about money, as this little internet tale shows us once again. The difference is that the U.S. explicitly says it's about money, while the French make vague allusions to some higher cause.

    Principled stand for world peace? Tell that to the people rioting in the Ivory Coast who battled French special forces. Protector of liberty? Tell that to the kid who lost his website to the French media empires.

  27. Forget Iraq. Invade France by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Personally, I can't think of a single reason not to go in there and clean up the sewer AKA France. Do it now, before they drag down the rest of the EU with there attitudes and work/welfare ethics.

  28. Sweet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So if i register Maxosoft.com or some other thing with an 'x', I'll totally own Microsoft.com!

  29. Re:Euro-centric? by FungiSpunk · · Score: 1

    Hey, we had your Feds can't catch worms to save their live, and believe it or not there is a whole world just over the oceans at either side of the US!

    Now be quiet and enjoy something completely useless from Europe!

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  30. Ha! by the+bluebrain · · Score: 1

    The dude should fold, and change the project name to "Oh Bell Icks", just out of pure bloodymindedness.
    "That different enough for you, huh? Huh?"

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  31. French imperialism. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When France has been questioned about its far-flung third-world colonies, its response is: "These are not colonies. These places are part of France!".

    We could also go on about the strong French censorship against "foreign" art, ideas and media. That is one hallmark of fascism that the French government goes in for whole-heartedly.

  32. excuse them .... by glMatrixMode · · Score: 1

    ... they've drunk tooooo much magic potion.

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  33. bloody lawyers... by BenjyD · · Score: 1

    they can't even understand spelling and pronounciation.

    Mobilix, with an i in the middle. Like fish, chips, wit.

    Obelix, with an e in the middle. Like wretch, bench,wench.

    They're not the same. They're not even that similar. How did they win? Did they manage to get a deaf judge or something?

    1. Re:bloody lawyers... by raju1kabir · · Score: 1
      they can't even understand spelling and pronounciation.
      Mobilix, with an i in the middle. Like fish, chips, wit.
      Obelix, with an e in the middle. Like wretch, bench,wench.

      The sounds you're talking about are in unstressed syllables and thus, in both English and French, are schwas. Therefore they sound basically alike. There are reason for finding the decision dumb but this isn't one of them.

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    2. Re:bloody lawyers... by tedrlord · · Score: 1

      Not quite.

      In French, "mobilix" would be pronounced something like "mo-bee-leex" while "obélix" would be pronounced "o-bay-leex." (Well, sort of. E accent égu is a bit more clipped than the English "ay" sound.) The point is that they do sound different.

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    3. Re:bloody lawyers... by raju1kabir · · Score: 2, Interesting
      In French, "mobilix" would be pronounced something like "mo-bee-leex" while "obélix" would be pronounced "o-bay-leex." (Well, sort of. E accent égu is a bit more clipped than the English "ay" sound.) The point is that they do sound different.

      Not sure I can agree. I've lived in French-speaking countries (admittedly France has not been among them) and a vowel surrounded by stressed syllables (the first and last syllables in these words take the stress) is elided to neutrality to my ear. I just tried it out with a real live French colleague and she agrees - only when she pronounced the words at deliberately (and unnaturally) slow speed was the difference audible.

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  34. Re:Obligatory Frog Bashing by rasteri · · Score: 3, Informative

    Asterix was aimed at adults with an extremely corny sense of humour who liked the occasional bad joke (you know, the kind of jokes that are so bad that they're good). The beano was aimed at 10 year old kids.

  35. Onward to France! by Cruciform · · Score: 4, Funny

    If we Slashdot them, they'll surrender!

    1. Re:Onward to France! by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 1

      Bahaha... Somebody mod this one up. Priceless.

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  36. Joel West.com by joelwest · · Score: 1

    My real name happens to be Joel West. Now do a google search on "Joel West". If he (the CK model) ever wants the domain I'm toast aparently. Even though I've been using the domain legitimately, and yes my site is lame.

    The point is that I only ever heard of this fellow by doing a google search. So who wins? I can't afford a lawyer especially in USD. I have no choice but to surrender. Ah well...

    1. Re:Joel West.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ianal, but something that can help you if they decide to sue.... register it with your local city/state as a sole proptrietership (sp?) buisness.... (joel west DBA joelwest.com)

    2. Re:Joel West.com by joelwest · · Score: 1

      Actually ostensibly that's what it is...
      More will be revealed...

  37. Out for a buck by westies-from-hell · · Score: 0
    I think I'll bring up an infringement suit against anyone using the letter "X". Think of all the money I'll make off the pr0n sites!

    • Step 1. Bring up suit.

    • Step 2. ???
      Step 3. Profit!
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  38. This is Totally Ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know Mobilix, but never heard about something like Asterix and Obelix? Or, is France filled with insane people who has language difficulties in discriminating Mobilix from Obelix?

  39. Re:Obligatory Frog Bashing by FungiSpunk · · Score: 0

    Get my "law-talking guy" on the phone, no one has a go at The Beano and lives to tell the tale!!!

    No Beano = No Viz!

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  40. Doesn't happen to corporations... by Bish.dk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In Denmark we up until recently had a major mobile-phone provider with the name Mobilix. They have now switched their name to the more international Orange, but I never heard of them having any problems arising from their usage of a name that could have been taken from the Asterix-comic. This is even more peculiar, as they probably must have intended for the association to be made: Asterix is quite famous in Denmark, and the company constantly played on its French ancestry.

  41. In Other News by cc_pirate · · Score: 1

    TNN.com has been told that they are far too close phonetically to CNN.com. Said Judge Robert Rheinhold "All those N's... way too confusing." TNN was ordered to avoid using N's in the future.

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  42. Think Mickey and Goofy by dubl-u · · Score: 1

    (think: Mickey and Goofy)

    You mean as in "large oppressive media companies" and "crazy, ridiculous, or ludicrous"?

  43. Re:Mobilix/Obelix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1 + 1 = ...essentially 1?

  44. Bleh by Chexsum · · Score: 0

    How stupid is that?

    I refer people to that site all the time for the IrDA HOWTO and used to read Asterix and never once associated the names.

    Mobilix = Mobile Linux *sheesh*.

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  45. Not in France by vrt3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    In France the keyboars are azerty, where the 'm' is closer to the 'o'. The 'o' occupies the same position as on qwerty, the 'm' is to the right of the 'l' (where ':' and ';' are on qwerty).

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    1. Re:Not in France by lastninja · · Score: 1

      and what do they call a quater-pounder with cheese?

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    2. Re:Not in France by radish · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Inedible" - just like everywhere else :)

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  46. Actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is actually AD 2003.

    Not that anyone cares.

  47. Mickey and Goofy? by automandc · · Score: 1

    Yeah, right. Maybe if Mickey and Goofy were alcholic, steroid-taking, gluttons who liked to bash Romans. I think that Asterix and Obelix serve a much different audience than Micky and Goofy. It's more like Looney Tunes, with historical undertones and more puns than anyone should have to bear. I'm proud to own the complete set.

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  48. Crazy! by malkavian · · Score: 1

    Interesting they go after the small, relatively unknown person, rather than the big hulking brand with enough money to spend on Lawyers to make this case stand out as the stupidity that it is!
    If they'd taken on Weetabix (that well known breakfast cereal), I'd have perhaps thought they were actually trying to be serious about things (like keeping everything with an 'ix' suffix in their control)..
    However, it's a case of hit on the small guy and be a bully..
    That's the last Asterix book I read!
    Or buy for anyone else..

    Malk

  49. Re: Linux [OT] by MochaMan · · Score: 1

    Underneath the layer of eye candy that rests on top of OS X is something simple yet powerful -- Linux

    Hmmm... shouldn't that be BSD? Oops, I mean... BSD is dead!

  50. Re:Mobilix/Obelix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what do you call one, then? 'Nearly one'?

  51. Apparently "*ix" is grounds for a lawsuit. Joy. by Bowie+J.+Poag · · Score: 1



    In a related story, Hans Blix has filed a lawsuit against France seeking a bottle of Nix head lice remover, a Twix bar, and a big bowl of kid-tested mother-approved Kix cereal in damages. When asked for his reason for suing the unpleasantly fragrant nation, Blix replied, "I'm a jelly-filled donut."

    Saying that "Asterix" and "Mobilix" are too much alike is like saying Sylvester Stallone bares a striking resemblence to a 55-gal drum of pickled herring.

    Oh wait. Hrm...

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  52. ogeefy.com by soegoe · · Score: 2, Insightful
    (think: Mickey and Goofy).

    So, the owner of a hypothetical site www.ogeefy.com could be sued by Disney, and they'd win?! I can't believe that.

  53. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  54. squat by Erris · · Score: 1
    how about:

    all going to Disney's obnoxious cyber advert? Looks like someone slipped Network Solutions a mickey.

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  55. All names in Asterix and Obelix resemble real word by StefMeister · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is actually quite ironic since allmost all names in the Asterix comic series are derived from real words (in French). Asterix comes from 'asterisque' (the * character), Obelix from 'obelisque' (a vertical monument, like a pillar), idefix (the dog) from 'idée fixe' (difficult to translate, something like an unchangeable opinion), assurancetourix (the chief IIRC) from 'assurance touts risques' (an insurance for all damages), etc ...

    And now they sue somebody cause a word they use looks like one of the names of their characters. It would be funny if it wasn't so stupid.

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  56. Is this just the wind up by uqbar · · Score: 1

    for when they go after Oblix?

  57. Here in Germany... by GeekDork · · Score: 1

    In Germany, judges eat YOU. All their brain are belong to trash.

    Oh, well, my Karma was too good anyway.

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  58. Re:Mickey and Goofy? Asterix rocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Absolutely. Mickey and Goofy are no way near to Asterix comics when it comes to humor, wit and information. Also, Asterix comics have an attention to detail that is seldom found in other books.

  59. Just another courtyard escalation... by imperator_mundi · · Score: 1

    The whole things is turning into another I can hire more lawyers than you show off...

    nothing new under the sun indeed.

  60. rhyming articles by syle · · Score: 1

    This is a joke, right? Mobelix, Obelix, Asterix... Admit it, michael finally gave up on real articles altogether, and now he's just messing with us.

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  61. Think Mickey and Goofy... by mdielmann · · Score: 1

    ...but better!!! I read every one I could get mey hands on, even in high school.

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  62. Re:Obligatory Frog Bashing by Drakin · · Score: 1

    Extreamly corny sense of humour...

    Sounds like the folks in alt.callahans

  63. The history by seschmi · · Score: 1

    Actually, for all who are not familiar with the case, the history and a short introduction to german laws in short:

    In autumn 2001 the publisher of asterix filed a suit at the "Landgericht", LG ("county court", a court of the first instance) and lost. The LG pointed out that there is no risk of a mix-up.

    After this, the publisher went to the next instance, the Oberlandesgericht (court of appeals), wich decided 100% different and against mobilix.

    The problem is, that Mobilix now has no further legal possibilities, as the case may not be retried at the Bundesgerichtshof (federal court) itself.

    Their only chance is that this fact (that no appeal is allowed) can be a subject of a new case at a federal court. But the chance to win this case is quite small, and it would only give them the chance to bring the original case (Asterix v. Mobilix) to a federal court.

  64. For more information on france . . . by GMontag · · Score: 1

    Additional information for USians not familiar with france, this website and see this article for more french military history.

    1. Re:For more information on france . . . by 241comp · · Score: 1

      Actually, you should see the real answer when you enter french military victories in Google here. Read the first result carefully.


      As seen on Google (link above):

      chrisruzin.net
      ... French Military Victories. Wednesday, Jan 29 | 12:31 am. ... PermaLink to: French Military Victories | More from the Humor category

    2. Re:For more information on france . . . by GMontag · · Score: 1

      Yes, it is a very telling bit on the french military. It is also archived here and the top link on this page. Obviously a well respected and widespread view with true historians.

  65. Re:All names in Asterix and Obelix resemble real w by Stephen+Williams · · Score: 2, Interesting

    idefix (the dog) from 'idée fixe' (difficult to translate, something like an unchangeable opinion)

    In the English-language version, his name is "Dogmatix", which means basically the same thing.

    assurancetourix (the chief IIRC)

    He's "Vitalstatistix" in the English version.

    The great thing about Asterix is that new punning names are made up for every language that the stories are translated into. I've even seen a Welsh-language Asterix book; my father, who is a Welsh speaker, confirmed that the names were still puns in Welsh.

    My favourite Asterix name is a Roman soldier I saw in one book called "Poisonus Oystus". Inspired.

    -Stephen

  66. Address here by KjetilK · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Oh well...

    Asterix has always been among my favorites. I have all the albums, and I started collecting when I was 8 years old. It is a great cartoon, and there is even a story about how money corrupts, in which the Romans send in a guy to buy all the bautas the Gauls can produce. Obelix makes bautas, and suddenly the village gets industrialized, the villagers get rich and things start going really wrong.....

    They should start reading Asterix too.

    I found this e-mail address: contact@albert-rene.com

    I told them I would never buy an album again unless they drop this suit immediately.

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    1. Re:Address here by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1

      in which the Romans send in a guy to buy all the bautas the Gauls can produce. Obelix makes bautas, and suddenly the village gets industrialized, the villagers get rich and things start going really wrong.....

      That would be Obelix and Co becoming rich by selling menhirs in the British version.

  67. Re:All names in Asterix and Obelix resemble real w by beanyk · · Score: 3, Informative

    When the stories were translated into English, they changed some of the names -- asterisk and obelisk are valid English words too, so they stayed the same, but many of the other characters got renamed so the (awful) puns would still work. For example:

    Vitalstatistx was the (rather fat) chief of the village.

    Dogmatix was Asterix's dog.

    Unhygenix was the village fishmonger.

    Fullyautomatix was the village blacksmith.

    ... and this one I didn't understand for years ...

    Getafix was the village druid (who cooked up the magic potion for our heroes).

    Lots more names, but those are the main ones that changed in English, I believe.

  68. bullshit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is such incredible bullshit. You'd have to be a complete moron to see any resemblance between the names. This frigging cartoon company can kiss my ass.

  69. Programmers are affected, too by seschmi · · Score: 1

    > For Americans: Asterix and Obelix are well-known French cartoon characters

    In the next step, they will sue everyone who uses asterisks... C-programmers, delete your comments!

    On the other hand, my Microsoft keyboard has an asterisk, too. Sue them!

    1. Re:Programmers are affected, too by misterhaan · · Score: 1

      yeah and a lot of times when i type in a password, it shows up as all asterisks!

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    2. Re:Programmers are affected, too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...or you'll just have to switch to C99 where they allow double-slash comments...

  70. Contact info by Sebby · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Tell the publisher what you think of this. Suggest a better behavior on their part:

    info@asterix.tm.fr

    "The ironing is delicious" - Bart Simpson

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  71. Makes Perfect Sense by MrResistor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I can totally see how a mobile phone could be mistaken for a good natured fat guy who likes to beat up romans and eat wild boar.

    </sarcasm>

    When will the insanity end? Mobilix, despite being in a totally different market, gets the shaft, but Lindows, which was intentionally named in order to draw in Windows customers, is OK?

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  72. Not so different .. by redge76 · · Score: 1

    If you type "obelix.net" in the adress bar of internet explorer, you will be redirected to msn search. And guess which web site is the returned ?? Mobilix !! here is the result result: http://search.fr.msn.ch/results.asp?cfg=DNSERROR&v =1&FORM=DNSERR&q=obelix%2Enet Redge

    1. Re:Not so different .. by Yito+Graft · · Score: 1

      If it is true that MSN returns the wrong address, they should have sued Microsoft for a bad search engine, it after all is creating the confusion. . . . RIGHT??

      When i did the search : obelix.net in

      Yahoo --> didn't find mobilix
      Google --> Real surprise, found obelix.net!!!
      Ask.com --> Asterix came up on this search too.

      Result: Microsoft failed, everyone else knows what your ralking about... hum...

    2. Re:Not so different .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What I want to know is, how come I go to msn search when I type something in the address bar? If I wanted to go to msn search (unlikely) I'd just go to msn search.

      Mac IE doesn't do that. Where do they hide the preference to turn that off on PCs?

  73. Actually... by PeDRoRist · · Score: 2, Informative
    ...assurancetourix (the chief IIRC)...
    Actually, Assurancetourix is the lame bard, always trying to sing, and always knocked out by the blacksmith, Cetautomatix ("C'est automatique": That's automatic), before he gets a chance to. The Chief is named Abraracourcix, which is derived from a french idiomatic expression ("A bras raccourcis") meaning "violently" (as in attacking someone violently). A possible word by word translation would be "with shortened arms", which means nothing, and is completely off-topic
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    1. Re:Actually... by mks113 · · Score: 1

      I'm amazed how they do this! I'm only read them in English, but always wondered how they could possibly have translated them -- they were too good! Dogmatix, Cocafonix, Fulliautomatix, are remarkable in that they translate in two ways.

      Some like Vitalstatistix or Getafix couldn't be properly translated, so they came up with new appropriate ones.

      Now if they would just lay off the IP issues....

    2. Re:Actually... by Zwack · · Score: 1

      cacofonix couldn't be translated either... But What an excellent series the Asterix books are...

      Is it just me, but does Asterix get his name because he is the star of the stories?

      Z.

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    3. Re:Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope; because he is rather short. Like this reply.

  74. It's German - who cares by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a German court, what do you expect. Nothing like that could happen in good ole USA, where we preach a freedome like no other.

  75. Simpson's Quote by CaptCanuk · · Score: 1

    I personally don't see how you could confuse asterix with mobilix. I'm surprised they haven't brought legal action against the number 8 which shares common space with the * on your keyboard. It's only because the French are "cheese-eating surrender monkeys". Apparently, they hate the powers that be.

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  76. TLD typos by zanderredux · · Score: 1

    Three years ago, when I worked in a bank, we used to go to www.fed.gov to get statistical data from the Federal Reserve. One day, I got distracted and typed www.fed.com, trying to reach them as usual. Surprise: it pointed to a pr0n site. I almost got fired.

    1. Re:TLD typos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was having a phone conversation with my parish priest a few years ago about updating our parish web site. Another site had some features he felt would be appropriate for ours. He told me the address lets say www.server.com, I entered the url and was greeted with the message: "You must be 18 to enter."

      So I asked the priest "Uh should I click through?".

      The surprise in his voice was hilarious. "No, no, no! Stop! Get out of there." After some poking around the web we found the site he really wanted me to check out was something like www.server.net .

      ( I returned the the .com pr0n site when we got off the phone)

    2. Re:TLD typos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I see sourceforge.net/com/org all go to the same place now, but I could swear I went to the wrong TLD a few weeks ago and it came up with a pr0n site.

    3. Re:TLD typos by MrRoyko · · Score: 1

      I was having a phone conversation with my parish priest a few years ago about updating our parish web site. Another site had some features he felt would be appropriate for ours. He told me the address lets say www.server.com, I entered the url and was greeted with the message: "You must be 18 to enter."
      So I asked the priest "Uh should I click through?".
      The surprise in his voice was hilarious. "No, no, no! Stop! Get out of there." After some poking around the web we found the site he really wanted me to check out was something like www.server.net .


      A couple years ago, I was working in IT, and I had just typed in what I THOUGHT was www.hotfiles.com to go to ZDNet's shareware site to look for something, when our department head (my boss's boss) came over to talk to me.

      I turned around to talk to him, not looking at my screen. One of my coworkers came by, saw what was on it, and lunged across my desk to hit ALT-F4 to close it. He had to keep hitting it (as I would find out later) because it kept launching more popups. I had no idea what he was doing since I was still talking with my the department head, and it was only after he left that my coworker told me what had been on my screen...

      Apparently, I had typed http://www.hotfile.com/ by mistake. Oops!

  77. The Luxembourgish postmen... by TheMidget · · Score: 1
    ... will never see their savings again, because what little of them is left will have to be paid to Les éditions Albert René.

    Nickts mehr übrig, I'm afraid...

    1. Re:The Luxembourgish postmen... by Gunstick · · Score: 1

      wow, seeing a luxemburgish joke on slashdot. cool!

      Georges

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  78. Idiots by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ...they ruled that "Mobilix" was too much similar to "Obelix" and that people could take one for the other."

    These judges must be gibbering idiots!

    Here's a freebie for you useless lawyers: McDonnel Douglas sounds confusingly similar to McDonald's, when said really fast. Release the hounds!

  79. Re:All names in Asterix and Obelix resemble real w by kalidasa · · Score: 1

    'idée fixe' (difficult to translate, something like an unchangeable opinion)

    The usual "translation" is just to cite the phrase in French; it usually implies more than an unchangeable opinion, rather one that is also almost obsessive.

  80. As Obelix would say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ils sont fous ces francais!

  81. fuck you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You stupefucks are too busy screaming about how Americans suck in general to bother tying it to any particular action.

    You make it sound like nobody ever says anything bad about America, so how dare we ridicule others. Where the hell have you been, Saturn?

    Get your head out of your ass and pay attention for once.

  82. Suck it up, Frenchie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like a clear case of you being able to dish it out, but not being able to take it.

  83. Re:AT&T to Webster what about Lucas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but Lucas own AT-AT, AT-ST and a slew more for the new eps I haven't had time to learn.

  84. Re:Obligatory Frog Bashing by ViVeLaMe · · Score: 1
    Principled stand for world peace? Tell that to the people rioting in the Ivory Coast who battled French special forces.


    Yeah, compare the body count from french army in Ivory Coast (zilch) to the one from US spec forces in Somalia (a thousand, if you believe Black Hawk Down). go tell to the somalians that the US stand for world peace, and see how they laugh.
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  85. When are we gonna stand up? by Emperor+Cezar · · Score: 1

    I want to know when are we gonna stand up and stop taking it from behind by governments, companies, and conglomerates? I'm sick and tired of people who have no business doing so trying to dictate what happens online. The net was started by the academics, the computer elite. And now companies hop on and throw thier money around in an attempt to grab more control than many small governments would hope for.

    There are millions of us out there. Millions of people with the knowledge and the skill to make it right. What would happen if all of the sudden, today, Obelix.com dissapeared from the net? A punishment for trying to pull something so rediculous. Maybe after that happens a couple dozen times, corporations, governments, and even people would think twice about pushing people around for no reason.

    Corporations and governments may be strong, but as a community we are stronger. On our own turf, they cannot hope to even win, but only if we get togeather and fight for what is right. Do the little things. Send those that are being bullied money, sign up for the EFF, or just talk to people, sway public opinion.

    It is a battle we can win, only if we get off our bums and do something.

  86. contact@albert-rene.com by asb · · Score: 1

    I will thell them that if MobiliX loses it's domain or trademark my children will never read Asterix & Obelix.

    And I do have children. Thank you for asking.

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  87. sue them back by Kynde · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't McCratney et al sue them back for using Jelousubmarine (or similar, can't recall the exact spelling) in one of the character names?

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  88. Come on! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Wow! Trademarking a name now doesn't just "protect" your name now, but also other words that end in the same last 3 words, "lix".

    Man, it does not only have the same last 3 characters, they also share the "Ob" and what is definitely suspicious is the fact of the changing of "i" by "e".

  89. Something strikes me as not quite right here by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 1

    Either the article left a few details out or the German legal system is a very strange animal.

    Plaintiff: Hey, your site name sounds like our trademark so we're taking you to court.
    Defendant: Yeah, sure, go on, try it.
    Plaintiff (to court): Look at this name, it's just like ours!
    Court: Is it hell, bugger off, case dismissed.
    Plaintiff (to appeal court): Hey did you see what they said? They said the other name doesn't sound like ours. C'mon now, it does, it double does. Tell 'em won't ya?
    Appeal court: Ok, we'll tell 'em. Case awarded.

    Does anyone spot anything missing here? Like how the case got to the appeal court in the first place? New evidence? Crooked witnesses?

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    1. Re:Something strikes me as not quite right here by tempfile · · Score: 2, Informative

      Here's what I remember from 10th grade law class:

      In Germany, the loser of a criminal case can always call appeal court. Because there is no jury, the judge makes decisions alone (advised by two "Schöffen" in some areas of criminal law) and therefore, esp. in cases like this, the decision is strongly flavoured by his personal opinion which can of course vary between courts.

      In this example, the judge obviously deemed the lower court's decision bullshit and made a different one. The importance of precedent decisions is much lower in Germany than in the US, and as long as the decision is backed by material law (German principle of law which leaves more room for interpretation than positive law), it's valid.

      When the appeal case is lost, however, it's often difficult to appeal again at the BGH.

  90. Say wha..? by 0belix · · Score: 1

    I'm ok with the name as long as they don't damage Romans or hunt boar.

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  91. Re:All names in Asterix and Obelix resemble real w by Roger_Wilco · · Score: 1

    Um, "idée fixe" is very easy to translate; it means "dogmatic". That's why it's funny, it's not really a pun unless you understand both English and French.

  92. Re:All names in Asterix and Obelix resemble real w by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My favourite Asterix name is a Roman soldier I saw in one book called "Poisonus Oystus". Inspired.

    Don't forget Odius Asparagus.

  93. Poetry as the new IP weapon by Angst+Badger · · Score: 1

    Trademarks are going to get pretty difficult if simply rhyming with an existing trademark is going to count as an infringement. I don't know about French, but a quick Perl script chewing on CMU's pronouncing dictionary reveals only a couple dozen single-syllable endings to English words, and only a few hundred two-syllable endings.

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  94. Asterix and Obelix no more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have bought more that 12 Asterix and Obelix Albums.

    Not any more .

    Now i will use other legal means to obtain them like trade with friends , trade used comicks .

    They only reason i was buying was because i wanted to support these guys.

    Not anymore.

    People that behave like predatory animals do not deserve my support.

  95. Re:All names in Asterix and Obelix resemble real w by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really?? Are you serious??... this seems like a joke, but I'm not sure, as I've never read the English version of Asterix and Obelix. I always liked the strip (never saw the cartoon) but it's been awhile... I find it hard to believe that it would lose so much in the translation and become so stupid.... prove me wrong! ;)

  96. I use to read this as a kid by addaboy · · Score: 1

    and it was hilarious, in fact the last time I went back to France I wanted to buy some of these, but the bookstore that I found them in was some kind of book club and they wouldn't let me buy because i didn't belong :( Bastards!!! This is a ridiculous lawsuit. It's sad that we live in an age where mere words can be copyrighted.

  97. Re:All names in Asterix and Obelix resemble real w by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

    > idée fixe' (difficult to translate, something like an unchangeable opinion)

    The usual "translation" is just to cite the phrase in French; it usually implies more than an unchangeable opinion, rather one that is also almost obsessive.


    This is why the English translation is Dogmatix. Dogmatic defined as "positiveness in assertion of opinion especially when unwarranted or arrogant". But then you all already knew this.

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  98. Mailbomb them ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Something which work !

    Mailbom the company address contact@albert-rene.com with protestation emails !

    Also send the mail in cc to all the xxx@albert-rene.com addesses you can find on google.

    Flood their fax ! Phone to complain to the marketing departement.

    This will make their Monday a nightmare and all the employee will know what's happening.

    I will try to find the union and inform them that if a boycott occurs they will loose their job.

  99. AD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or CE (Common Era)

  100. Why is Micky Mouse not available in English by pommiekiwifruit · · Score: 1
    I see mickey/donald etc. on the shelves every time I visit netherlands/italy/spain/greece etc. but it seems they have not bothered to translate any of their comics into English.

    Which seems a shame. I guess if only there was a longer copyright term, Walt Disney might have an incentive to translate them into english.

  101. Re:Obligatory Frog Bashing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    zilch? Stop reading French news sources.
    Read some African continent news sources and you'll get the whole story.

    Oh wait. You use Hollywood movies as a source of information. Nevermind.

  102. stallone & pickled herrings, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    funny you should mention that considering one of my favourite stallone quotes:
    "Myra, some people might think you're cute, but I happen to think you're a very large baked potato."

  103. Mozilla font rendering by BabyP · · Score: 1

    This page is almost impossible to read in Mozilla... all these accented characters are being displayed on my system as tabs??? or something...

    It looks fine in IE...whatsa matta?

  104. Re:All names in Asterix and Obelix resemble real w by AndrewRUK · · Score: 1

    And, of course, Cacofonix, the (appaling) bard. (sorry if I've misspelt that)

  105. Re:All names in Asterix and Obelix resemble real w by ross.w · · Score: 1

    My favourite is the Egyptian, "Ptenisnet". In Asterix, The Legionary, he gives his name in Egyptian and the speech balloon actually has a little net hieroglyphic.

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  106. McDonalds coffee case 100% frivolous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I've read up on it.

    You ignore the following facts:

    McDonalds always calls it hot coffee. Hot. Yes, indeed. It is part of toddler training to be careful around hot things.

    The lady spilled the hot coffee HERSELF. McDonalds did not spill it.

    This is just one of those frivolous lawsuits that have become so common, and are a reason we need tort reform. And yes, it is 100% frivolous certainly.

  107. Re:All names in Asterix and Obelix resemble real w by zsau · · Score: 1

    And now they sue somebody cause a word they use looks like one of the names of their characters. It would be funny if it wasn't so stupid.

    Even stupider is the fact that they don't even stick to their own names: in the English translations (at least the ones in Australia, which I imagine are the same as the British ones), for example, the chief is Vitalstatistix (i.e. Vital statistics).

    Or the fact that too many people (in at least Australia) these days call * an asterix. (Though whether this can affect a German/French trademark case I do not know.)

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  108. Now we know why Linus called it Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and not Linix

  109. Criminal case? by Godwin+O'Hitler · · Score: 1

    In Germany, the loser of a criminal case can always call appeal court.

    It's a crime to have a similar name in Germany? Maybe you didn't mean to say criminal.

    Anyway, I'm not advocating anyone's legal system over another's (I'm neither German nor American). It just seems gut-weird to me that as soon as you don't get your way with a lower court, without any other reason than your not liking their decision, you get to appeal. It's not as though any new arguments are being produced (at least it doesn't seem that way from what I read).

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  110. Re:All names in Asterix and Obelix resemble real w by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >... and this one I didn't understand for years Getafix was the village druid (who cooked up
    > the magic potion for our heroes).
    Although, according to another Asterix reference the druid was called "Magigimmix". I seem to remember reading that elsewhere too.

    It would appear that get-a-fix was too naughty for the US audience.

    follower@iname

  111. Re:All names in Asterix and Obelix resemble real w by The+Cydonian · · Score: 1

    ... and this one I didn't understand for years ... Getafix was the village druid (who cooked up the magic potion for our heroes).

    Why get into a fix over a pun?

  112. Re:McDonalds coffee case NOT 100% frivolous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You ignore even more facts:

    • McDonald's served their coffee at 20 degrees above the industry standard. Obviously, everyone knows they need to be careful around a cup of coffee. It's hot. Duh. However, if you had a cup of molten lava in your hand, would you be just as careful with it as you would with a cup of coffee, or would you be more careful with it, knowing that it is significantly more dangerous than a cup of coffee. Most rational people would treat a cup of molten lava with greater care than they would treat a cup of coffee, because the danger is significantly higher. The woman in this case should only be expected to treat the coffee with the same level of care she would treat any other cup of coffee. However, this cup of coffee was served, unbeknownst to her, at a temperature significantly and dangerously higher than an ordinary cup of coffee. I've spilled normal coffee on myself before. Normal coffee does not cause third-degree burns requiring skin grafts. If it did, I would treat it with much greater care all the time.
    • Yes, the lady spilled it on herself. This is why the jury decided that she too would share in the blame. But, because of the reason I stated in the point above, she was found to be 20% responsible, and McDonald's was found to be 80% responsible, since they willingly and knowingly served her coffee at a dangerous temperature, knowing that she would have no reason to be aware that this coffee was significantly more dangerous than most coffee, and knowing that they had settled over 700 other cases involving serious burns from their coffee, burns that go beyond the type of burn that normal coffee should cause.
    This case was only frivolous in that McDonald's should have done the decent thing and simply accepted some responsibility on their own, and at least helped to pay the woman's medical bills -- which was all she wanted in the first place. Do you have any idea what skin graft surgery costs? They refused, so the lawsuit occurred.