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i4u writes "Sony introduces at the Robodex 2003 it's new version of the humanoid Robot SDR-4X. The Sony SDR-4X was introduced last year. The new version SDR-4X II has improved movement functions, safety functions and conversation capabilities. The new speech processor supports continuous speech recognition with about 20,000 words. The Sony SDR-4X II is about 580x190x270mm in size and weighs about 7kg. Sony Japanse Press-Release. See also the new robot Toshiba announced - the ApriAlpha."

199 comments

  1. how much... by veeoh · · Score: 1

    how much - me want! :)

  2. Well... by lithiumcloud · · Score: 1

    with a headline like Robots! who wouldn't want to read? 10 out of 10 for marketing.

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  3. Fluid motion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How long before these robots are given fluid motion and balancing? I wouldn't so much care if the robot could walk if it could balance itself in a shifting environ.

    Seems much more humanly adaptable that way.

    1. Re:Fluid motion by dogbox · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That would be cool if it could have fluid motion and balancing. On the other hand, this is probably not really an option at the moment or even the near future. The market must be very small for so expensive an item (the article says it will cost as much as a luxury car), and if they added something like fluid motion etc. the robot would leave the price-range of a car and enter the price-range of something like a house or possibly even more. The idea is cool, but its not really a possibility for a long time.

    2. Re:Fluid motion by JPM+NICK · · Score: 3, Interesting

      At MIT they are doing experiments with robots to mimic the movements of fish. Scientists studying and building fish robots would like to solve "Gray's paradox," named for James Gray, a British zoologist and specialist in animal locomotion, who theorized that fish are more efficient swimmers than they should be. The "Pike Project" http://web.mit.edu/towtank/www/pike/

    3. Re:Fluid motion by Grunhund · · Score: 1

      The SDR actually has impressive balancing capabilities.

      Look at this video clip to check it out: Video

  4. Asimo touring the us by gad_zuki! · · Score: 3, Informative

    On a related note, Honda's Asimo is touring the US. Asimo groupies you know who you are.

    1. Re:Asimo touring the us by bobbozzo · · Score: 2, Funny
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  5. Not very sexy... by ahkbarr · · Score: 1

    Is it just me, or does "The Sony SDR-4X II is about 580x190x270mm in size and weighs about 7kg." Not sound very sexy?

    Something about those measurements...

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    1. Re:Not very sexy... by mrtroy · · Score: 1, Funny

      Damn right!

      26 - 34 - 26 ????

      Only if shes FIVE THREE!!!

      Baby got back...

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    2. Re:Not very sexy... by Guitarsenal · · Score: 0

      Not very sexy?

      Didn't you see this in the specs?:

      Touch Sensor | Head | Pressure Sensitive Rubber

      But I'm pretty sure the phrase "Pressure Sensitive Rubber" should always be followed by the words, "For Her"...

      KP

    3. Re:Not very sexy... by grumpygrodyguy · · Score: 1

      Is it just me, or does...Not sound very sexy?

      Look, get one of these if that's what you're into. Myself, I just want it to do stuff for me around the house. The fact that it can converse and walk up stairs is really just a novelty. These are the things I need done:

      Take out the trash.
      Cook a tv dinner.
      Get me a beer from the fridge.
      Draw tapwater into a glass and bring it to me.
      Answer the phone.
      Bring me the remote.
      Get my mail/newspaper.
      Do my laundry.
      Make my bed.
      Dust the house.
      Vacuum the house.
      Clean my bathroom and kitchen.

      It's probably Sony's vision to create a robot that can do the above, but they don't appear to be any closer than when they started.

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    4. Re:Not very sexy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you've not read anything Dr. Doi, the creator of the AIBO, has written. His ideal is for Sony robots to be companions, not slaves. Sony is stepping in line with that ideal.

    5. Re:Not very sexy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you've not read anything Dr. Doi, the creator of the AIBO, has written. His ideal is for Sony robots to be companions, not slaves. Sony is stepping in line with that ideal.

      Do you get a free vial of KY-Jelly with that?

  6. 20k words by lingqi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    in Japanese, right? in which case (if we count kanji characters) is a LOT.

    btw japanese is a pain in the butt compared to english - I think if the robot really manages conversation in japanese, english is cake. Why I say that? most spoken japanese has no subject, object, and ususally can be interpreted in multiple ways based on context.

    lastly, notice all the humanoid robots go around with slightly bent knees. whassup with that? anybody know? I go around with a bent knee because I am bow-legged, but I hardly think the sony robot has that problem.

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    1. Re:20k words by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >lastly, notice all the humanoid robots go around with slightly bent knees

      This has to do with balance. A lot of robots have a "backpack" where designers put most of the electronics. By bending at the knee they're less likely to topple.

    2. Re:20k words by Archon-X · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Are you joking?
      20,000 words is 20,000 words, english, french or swahili. Kanji is just the script that the words are written in.

      Japanese is one of the most rigourous languages out there. No other language that I know of has ~5 levels of politeness.

      Failproof Japanese sentence syntax:
      Time [de] subject [wa] object [particle] verb [desu]

      And yes, that's very basic, but compared to english, pah!

      Context? You can't muck up - you have particles that you places after words that determine the context. [ie, wo makes the object, wa makes the subject etc] ..and that's on a basic level.

    3. Re:20k words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      By context he means that, since Japanese has very few syllables, and shorts words, many words may have differents meanings, depending on what other words they're used with. However I guess the robot recongizes 20000 words but doesn't usually "understand" them.

    4. Re:20k words by ahkbarr · · Score: 1

      Before I buy one of these things, I wanna know:

      1. I know it listens, but does it talk with a sweet and sexy female Japanese voice like in some subtitled anime?
      2. If yes, are a few of the words it can say "giggles"?

      Ah, maybe I'll quit before I embarrass myself..

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    5. Re:20k words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Much too late for that, friend.

    6. Re:20k words by lingqi · · Score: 1
      I actually think you are instead of thinking of something like this.This model is probably going to be silent for the forseeable future, but I think I'd buy one of that before a cheesy metallic sony-bot.

      actually, to be honest most japanese women sounds about the same (depending on age, anyhow) in the girly tone, as unbelievable as it might seem. I mean, it must not be very good for the vocal cord...

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    7. Re:20k words by lingqi · · Score: 1

      What I mean is that when the robots stand "straight" their knees are still bent; maybe at about 150-170 degrees or so.

      I thought it had to do with having the range for keeping balance (i.e. if legs locks straight, robot falls), but I'm just guessing. looks really silly, though.

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    8. Re:20k words by Doctor+Hu · · Score: 1
      ... lastly, notice all the humanoid robots go around with slightly bent knees. whassup with that? ...
      The designers are fans of Groucho Marx, perhaps?
    9. Re:20k words by Saeger · · Score: 2, Funny
      You should really wait for the next generation of robots; the current ones are full of bugs.

      My fembot struts around the neighborhood chanting, "Panties. Panties. Panties", for some reason I know *nothing* about, and I can't get it to stop!

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    10. Re:20k words by bumby · · Score: 1

      of course, and it has a usb-connection in between its legs.

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    11. Re:20k words by SpaceJunkie · · Score: 1

      Many martial arts will instruct you to always go with bended knee - number one for balance, and number 2-if someone kicks a locked knee- it is very easily broken.. Krack...
      As a robot builder myself - two legs are only useful from a psychological point of view - I always thought six were more functional, with an option to occasionally rear onto two. But psychologically- that would freak people out... Insects have six legs...

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    12. Re:20k words by kahei · · Score: 1
      in Japanese, right? in which case (if we count kanji characters) is a LOT.


      Yes, words written with kanji are far harder to hear than words written phonetically.

      most spoken japanese has no subject, object, and ususally can be interpreted in multiple ways based on context.


      Whereas in English there's always a subject, an object, and a single unambiguous interpretation independent of any context information. How fortunate.

      notice all the humanoid robots go around with slightly bent knees.


      The bent knees are because they are correcting their balance constantly by moving their knees slightly to lengthen and shorten each leg.

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    13. Re:20k words by Sam+the+Nemesis · · Score: 1
      Right now I am learning Japanese language (8 hrs a day!) for last 4 months, so I think I have a fair knowledge about this language.

      First, 20k words means 20k words - Kanji is just script, and it has no relation whatsoever with number of words.

      Secondly, Japanese grammar is far easier than English. There's no plural, gender, word order is not that important, and there are lot's of other points.

      Just my approx. 2 Yens.

    14. Re:20k words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >lastly, notice all the humanoid robots go around with slightly bent knees. whassup with that? anybody know? I go around with a bent knee because I am bow-legged, but I hardly think the sony robot has that problem.

      You hit a kinematic singularity when the knee is straight, and lose a degree of freedom. So while straight-knee walking is more efficient, it's also somewhat less safe (if your balance algorithm wants to extend the leg a bit to balance you, but your leg is already straight, you're in trouble).

    15. Re:20k words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think it's closer to 3 Yen nowadays.

  7. Just what I need... by localghost · · Score: 2, Funny

    For fighting off those evil ninja pirates! This thing does have laser eyes and gatling guns mounted on each arm, right? With an option for the shoulder-mounted rocket launcher? Or am I thinking of a different robot?

    1. Re:Just what I need... by sirius_bbr · · Score: 1

      I think you're thinking sharks with giant "la - sers" attached to their heads

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  8. I see the future... by DarwinDan · · Score: 1

    ...and it is Sony!

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  9. Old Glory Robot Insurance by brood · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't forget to buy robot insurance! "To protect us from the metal ones".

    1. Re:Old Glory Robot Insurance by daeley · · Score: 1

      Old Man: Robots! They're coming'! Robots!

      Old Woman: Ohhhh, it's a friendly robot... this time...

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    2. Re:Old Glory Robot Insurance by zephc · · Score: 1

      okay, i have to reference my robots.txt file

      commenting is great =] also, don't kill my server please

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    3. Re:Old Glory Robot Insurance by Gortbusters.org · · Score: 1

      I think you'd want insurance on it. From the article, it costs about as much as a luxury car. Oof!

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    4. Re:Old Glory Robot Insurance by SpaceJunkie · · Score: 1

      Well you have just knocked any search engines off of your site anyway... AFAIK "Robots.txt" is used to signal crawlers to ignore the site.

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    5. Re:Old Glory Robot Insurance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you are missing something:

      Yes, robots.txt tells search engines how to spider your site - typically telling them which areas not to bother with (eg, if you had stock quotes, weather, etc).

      The presence alone of this file does not signal to search engines to ignore the site. The search engine is supposed to look at the file and respect the 'disallow' entries. If you "Disallow: /" then, yes - you are telling search engines to piss off.

      His file doesn't have any of that

    6. Re:Old Glory Robot Insurance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i actually DO have the disallow part, because i'd rather the search engines not index my site (i've had problems with it and my ISP in the past)

      the joke of course, is that my robots.txt file has a joke about ROBOTS in it

      cheers, zephc

  10. When I was kid... by heldlikesound · · Score: 3, Funny

    My ultimate dream toy was this big room that had a balcony, in the room would be a scaled down fort, jungle, river, etc... Then, we'd have these little guys that had guns and we could remote control them to fight and have wars and all kinds of cool stuff. Kind of like Rainbow Six, minus the computer part, and scaled down.

    Anyway, these new thing got my hopes up, until I realized that it doesn't even look like it can fire a gun.

    Why the hell would you make a robot that can't fire a gun?

    Let me take that one step further, if you are designing a robot, why the hell would you not just give it guns as hands. ::sigh::

    It better know karate.

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    1. Re:When I was kid... by Mengoxon · · Score: 1

      actually, what you said just gave me a scary thought: Another ten years and we WILL have robots with guns and with all likeliness a new crime problem: remote-controlled robots asking for your wallet, threatening with the gun - caught by the police won't make a difference to the criminal who keeps a radio (or Internet) distance from the crime site . . . and I have no clue how to solve that? The future can be scary sometimes.

    2. Re:When I was kid... by pyrrho · · Score: 1

      It's because of people like you that the robots will be able to take over.

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    3. Re:When I was kid... by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Interesting

      >Why the hell would you make a robot that can't fire a gun?

      The predator drone fires Hellfire missiles? Hows that grab ya?

      It shouldn't be that tough to build a small stout robot that can shoot a small handgun at a decent sized target using some basic computer vision on a hobbyist's budget.

      I probably shouldn't have said anything. Its going to be scary seeing this on slashdot next week: "Legobot fires .22 pistol. Three geeks injured."

    4. Re:When I was kid... by Mika_Lindman · · Score: 1

      They had to remove the guns, when they noticed that the 2000 word vocabulary wasn't enough to understand sentences such as "A robot may not injure a human being, or through inaction, allow a human being tocome to harm." and " A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.".

    5. Re:When I was kid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We can build one robot with guns as hands, have it blow your head off and then get on with a nice normal life.

    6. Re:When I was kid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Duh... Encrypted wireless will be unroutable and OUTLAWED in the future, and all robots will of course obey Asimov's three laws because of MS-DRM. Open Source robot kits from China are ILLEGAL, and if one is caught without broadcasting a valid DRM-Vin-number, it's destroyed on the spot.

    7. Re:When I was kid... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dream on conspiracy boy. 1984 and DRM isnt going to happen like that because people are people and wont let that much freedom slip away.

    8. Re:When I was kid... by Mengoxon · · Score: 1

      but the robots could be produced on a distant far-away planet (Star Wars II)

    9. Re:When I was kid... by Hubert_Shrump · · Score: 1

      Why the hell would you make a robot that can't fire a gun?

      Because in the end, there's nothing you've got a robot would want. ;)

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  11. On a scale of 1 to 10... by FS1 · · Score: 1

    This would get 10 for it's gee-whiz cool factor, but a 1 for being utterly useless for over 99% of humanity.

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  12. For the girlfriend by ahkbarr · · Score: 4, Funny

    The new speech processor supports continuous speech recognition with about 20,000 words.

    Yeah, I'll show it 20,000 continuous words... I usually fade away after around 17,835 continuous words or less. Say A-men, brothers!

    Seriously, it's a good listener. I think I'll get one for the girlfriend, and I can have a nice break.

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  13. Anime culture... by Op911 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Interesting that from a nation that loves its giant battling robots (as seen in every other anime series from Japan) there is enough desire on the part of the manufacturers to create such robots in real life. And that there is enough demand there to make it worthwhile. They wouldn't be able to make these things if they couldn't sell them; You wouldn't be able to get the vast majority of North Americans to shell out a couple thousand on these things or an AIBO for instance. I'm a geek and I think these are cool but you won't catch me buying one until it's smart enough to get a job and make money to pay for itself. So why do the Japanese love these things so much? Any thoughts?

    1. Re:Anime culture... by haggar · · Score: 1

      I would tend to disagree with you, in the sense that I think there is a viable market for these "gadgets" outside of Japan, too.

      The reason why the Japanese have built them is that they had the vision, and vision transforms into action directed towards a goal. Those anime cartoons were just a manifestation of this technological vision, but not the only one. If you just visit Japan, you understand how high-tech-centric that society actually is.

      There are other technological visions, too: in Finland, for example, we are very much directed towards a connected future (Finland has the greatest number of permanently-connected Internet nodes/websites in the world per capita, and the highest penetration of mobile phones in the market). Here you can even pay in some shops using your mobile phone, all the banking, investing etc. is done via the Internet etc.

      The United States has a different technological vision yet: research of new materials, propulsion, space exploration, semiconductor technology. I think it's the most balanced, but this is really just in the eye of the beholder.

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    2. Re:Anime culture... by jimkski · · Score: 1

      It may be much more than Anime culture. Stick with me here... the Japanese have a 1.3 replacement birth rate right now and a rapidly growing retired population. The government and industry in Japan recognize robotics as a crucial tool to handle a dwindling labor force without resorting to guest workers.

      As the geriatric population grows, the burden of caring for them falls to fewer and fewer young people. There are already many instances where Aibos are being put into service as companions for increasingly lonely and isolated older people. As the robots capability increases, they may be able to provide more than just companionship for passing the time. Distributing medicine in nusing homes is one task that comes to mind.

      As a culture, the Japanese are growing distant from each other (take the current trend of the parasite children, 20 to 30 somethings who work, live at home with the folks and have no social life). Robot companions, while artificial, provide obligation free friendship when needed.

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    3. Re:Anime culture... by DroppedPacket · · Score: 2, Interesting
      You make some very interesting points, but there is so much unsaid. If you poke below the surface of what you descibe as vision, I think you might hit some of the underpinnings of the actual culture. Just to elucidate on the three cultures you mentioned:

      Japanese: Hi-tech, but also hi-tech dependant. They have a very high population density and need the hi-tech for continued survival. (Food, power, infrastructure.) In some ways they run to stay in place.

      Finland: Lots of communication. Internet, cell phones, etc. Don't they get rather cold and isolated during the winter? Could this be part of it?

      United State: Exploration and moving onwards. The country has been doing that since founding, but there is not much land left to explore.

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    4. Re:Anime culture... by haggar · · Score: 1

      Excellent points! I agree, of course.
      In fact, in support of your point on Japan, it's well known that Japan as a country has been a rether barren and poor in natural resources. Japan hasn't had a lot of steel, ever, so it seems to be natural that they spent a lot of time to prepare the blade of their katana swords by hammering the blade and then folding it and more hammering and folding, until the crystal structure in the steel would become regular and confer to the blade incredible toughness and maintain the sharpness better than any contemporary weapon. Conclusion: to make the best or the little steel they had, they had to develop technology.

      Anyway, thank you for compleneting my thoughts with your excellent thoughts. Good stuff on Slashdot, from time to time.

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    5. Re:Anime culture... by Rayonic · · Score: 1

      The Japanese seems to have a kind of America-in-the-1950's attitude when it comes to technology. Remember all those old black-and-white film/TV pieces about the Fantastic Future? Jetpacks, flying cars, robotic servants, orbital hotels, the works!

      Japan has that same kind of attitude, except that all those neat things are closer than ever. The robots are real now, and not guys in shiny rubber suits. America's interests have moved on to other things, and has adopted a bit of practical cynicism towards technology.

  14. similar article by Mdog · · Score: 0

    there's a similar write-up at tubgirl tech archive

  15. That's not a robot... by ahkbarr · · Score: 1, Funny

    This... is a robot!

    Build Your Own Crow T. Robot

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  16. How long before we see... by anzha · · Score: 1

    Genom, boomers, and the Silky Doll pop up now?

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  17. Re: Just not very imperial... by product+byproduct · · Score: 1

    In no time we can compute its average density: 7000/(58*19*27) = 0.235 g/cm2, and deduce that attempting to get rid of a plastic wrapped Sony SDR-4X II unit by dumping it at the bottom of a lake wouldn't work without the help of a heavy brick.

  18. Re:US complains of Iraqi 'deception' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like we don't get enough war-news overload, you have to come and post this completely off topic rant in here... What the hell does that have to do with robots?

    Go post this in a proper forum somewhere, or better yet, take your post, turn it sideways, and pound it up your ass!!!!

  19. Re: Just not very imperial... by ahkbarr · · Score: 1

    Much like the human kind...

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  20. ..but by Renraku · · Score: 1

    I want a robot to help me recite lines from "All Your Base" Like.. Me: What happen? Robot: Someone set up us the bomb!

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  21. Will a SDK be avaiable? by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I hope they offer a SDK to developers, and that it would be free, or at least low cost. I meen the more apps that use their robots the more they sell right?

    1. Re:Will a SDK be avaiable? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      After shutting down some independent AIBO efforts, Sony turned around:

      http://openr.aibo.com/

      Let's hope they will not make the same mistakes again.

    2. Re:Will a SDK be avaiable? by JHMirage · · Score: 1

      The thing costs as much as a luxury car... I'm guessing there's not going to be a big market for these "apps" even if the gave the SDKs away wrapped in a $10 bill.

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  22. Remember... by djupedal · · Score: 2, Insightful

    During such 'actions' as the war in Iraq, your fancy home robot, with GPS, will be reduced to having a spatial accuracy of 100 meters, not one. You might want to buy a unit that uses sonar and domestic region mapping, in addition to any GPS capability.

  23. are you making this up? by lingqi · · Score: 2, Informative

    hmm. peachy

    until you want to express "the faster the better" (does not translate literally, at ALL), "I bumped my head while entering the bath" (as far as i know there is no expressing for "while entering," as any japanese equivalent to english versions mean "while bathing"), or interpret "yorushiku" or "sumimasen" in their million and half meanings.

    and I havn't even begun to count the thousands of "sound the exact same" words. a simple example might be "kanji," which, depending on the "kanji - chinese characters" can mean "kanji - feeling," or "kanji - work." try differentiating them.

    I cannot imagine anybody who knows japanese well to even have a thought that japanese is easy to parse. AFAIK french is easy to parse - but I am sorry Japanese is far from it.

    oh, and I counted 9 different "requesting somebody to do stuff" politeness levels the other day, not counting multiple politeness level combinations (verb + politeness suffix + request / command + politeness suffix for the request). Japanese people themselves hardly can differentiate which one is more polite than the other.

    lastly, since all kanji characters have different meanings - you can more-or less guess the entire language if you have a sense of what every kanji means (this is why chinese people can usually understand what's going on in a japanese newspaper). so 20k words vs 20k kanji is very much different.

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    1. Re:are you making this up? by davejenkins · · Score: 2, Informative

      until you want to express "the faster the better"

      hayai kagiri yoi.

      "I bumped my head while entering the bath" (as far as i know there is no expressing for "while entering,"

      hairu tochuu-- bath ni hairu tochuu atama wo butsukemashita. however, that's poor grammar. bath ni hairu tokoro atama butsukemashita.

      As far as you know-- which doesn't seem to be very far. :-)

    2. Re:are you making this up? by Doctor+Hu · · Score: 1
      ... AFAIK french is easy to parse ...
      Academie Francaise -approved prose, perhaps. But understanding what is actually meant is another matter entirely. I worked in Paris for 18 months and picked up pretty easily from where high-school language classes left off, but it still took me ages to realise that "impossible", in French, usually meant "I don't feel like doing this at the moment but I may reconsider if you can make it worth my while."

      Nice city, shame about the people.

    3. Re:are you making this up? by lingqi · · Score: 1

      I was actually thinking (faster the better)

      haykereba hayai hodo ii desu

      which makes no sense grammatically ("if fast then level of fast (is) good").

      as for "while entering," in english it would imply the instance when you are passing through the door. tochuu means "on my way to," which is not precise - it can mean (and actually implies) "from the time I left my house and when I got to the (public) bath." A technically sound translation of "while entering" SHOULD be

      "haite iru toki," (at the time of entering)

      but "haite iru," though SUPPOSED to mean "while entering," actually means "while inside," nevermind that technically "while inside" should be "ite iru."

      I don't claim to be japanese expert, but I am not completely uninformed.

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    4. Re:are you making this up? by BJH · · Score: 1

      "Hayakereba hayai hodo ii (or yoi)" does not translate as "if fast then level of fast (is) good".

      It translates as "the faster the better".

      What's the point of translating the individual words, and not the overall meaning?

      (By the way, "I hit my head while entering the bath" would be "furo ni hairou to shitara, atama wo butsuketa".)

    5. Re:are you making this up? by lingqi · · Score: 1

      I know what the phrase mean. I am trying to demonstrate the messiness of japanese grammar. Like I said, the sentense, if decomposed grammatically (following all other established rules of inflection) has no meaning.

      "shitara" would also have multiple meanings that is difficul to distinguish too - another possible meaning is "if I do ___," which is again, grammatically ambiguous.

      Besides the fact that I am very disapponited "haite iru" doesn't mean what I think it should (I mean, wouldn't life be that much easier if it did mean "while entering?"), my main point is that parsing japanese is a pain in the butt (follow the thread up a few levels), if not impossible.

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    6. Re:are you making this up? by BJH · · Score: 1

      What's messy about the contruction "...kereba ... hodo ii"? It's no messier than the English "the ...er the better".

      And if you wanted to say "If I do...", that would be "... shiyou to suru to", not "... shiyou to shitara".

      "...te iru" doesn't mean what you think it means because you're thinking of it as English progressive. It's not. It indicates state, not progression.

    7. Re:are you making this up? by lingqi · · Score: 1

      the messiness of "...kereba...hoto ii" comes from the fact that you can't make it out from anywhere. "the more ... the better" is an contraction from "the more ... (option) (is) the better (one)." The same cannot be said about the japanese counterpart.

      you have to admit that "shitara" CAN be part of a conditional form. I believe it is difficult to have a robot parse this correctly without understanding context.

      "...te iru" is the present perfect tense in japanese. if you want to call it "state," fine. however, just like "hanashite iru" means "the state of speaking," "haite iru" SHOULD mean (grammatically speaking) "the state of entering," not "the state of *having entered*," which would be a completely different tense. "the state of being in the shower" should use a different verb, like "iru," instead of "hairu," if the language is to stay grammatically consistent. It doesn't and as a human being I make exceptions and just deal with it - but again I believe it supports my original argument that japanese grammar is full of irregularities, making it much more difficult to parse than english.

      Heh... I swear if some anal moderator comes along we are all going to karma-heck for this string of exchanges. probably "off-topic" or something...

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    8. Re:are you making this up? by davejenkins · · Score: 1

      I don't claim to be japanese expert, but I am not completely uninformed.

      Gomen-- I didn't mean to be so accusatory and desultory in my comment. I would agree with BJH that we should look to translate phrases, not so much individual words--

    9. Re:are you making this up? by kahei · · Score: 1

      I know others have corrected your errors already in this thread but I just like correcting twits.

      "the faster the better" -> hayai hodo ii
      "I bumped my head..." -> ofuro ni hairu tokoro atama wo buttobashita

      'yoroshiku' and 'sumimasen' have many possible shades of meaning, just like 'excuse me' and 'please' in English and like similar interjections in other languages.

      By '"sound the exact same" words' I assume you mean homophones. English and Spanish are extremely rich in homophones.

      Kanji are not relevant because this is *voice* communication.

      As someone who does natural language processing, I find Japanese comparatively easy -- certainly easier than English, which is generally a hard one.

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    10. Re:are you making this up? by warpath · · Score: 1

      "I bumped my head while entering the bath"

      I don't actually speak Japanese but I have several friends who do. I think that they would translate the above sentence like:

      "SHIMATTA!"

    11. Re:are you making this up? by lingqi · · Score: 1

      Well, my point was that japanese grammar has serious inconsistencies (same thing can mean widly different stuff in different places) that makes parsing it VERY difficult.

      anyhow - to sound both modest and authoratative is hard, no? =)

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    12. Re:are you making this up? by lingqi · · Score: 1

      I am not sure why you think I am a "twit," but anyway.

      few things:

      I already explained why I think "hayai hodo ii" and "WHILE entering" is grammatically inconsistent about five times in other posts. I won't do it again here.

      "Please" and "excuse me" has limited meanings based on their original ones. "sumimasen" can mean "thank you," "sorry," "excuse me," "good bye," amongst others. I don't think any english counterparts matches the omnipotence of "sumimasen."

      There are words in english, like "set," which have hundreds (237 I think) of definitions, though. however even in such an extreme case, most of these extra meanings are obscure, and the rest can be differentiated by grammatical context. A lot of times Japanese does not have such a luxury (see below).

      Japanese to me also have more homophones than english. "shimeru," for example, can be any of five words between "occupy," "close," "strangle," "fasten," and "moisten." I assume that jbrowse relies on the page's author to have picked the correct kanji in order to work correctly - but in parsing speech (or, say, the page author left it in kana-form), when you don't have that kanji cue and must to it based on context, can be a nightmare (or, again, so I assume). English, on the other hand - the most severe set of homophones is probably "to, two, and too," which has completely different grammatical properties (unlike the japanese example which are all verbs), and therefore not as bad - again, just my thoughts.

      kanji is relavent because even if I don't know the WORD, but know and correctly guess both kanji i hear or read (assuming it's a two-character word), I can contruct the meaning very accurately. This is a feature other languages don't possess - so I stand by the claim that knowing 20,000 words or 20,000 kanji is very much different.

      unrelated subject - what is jbrowse's licensing terms (can't find on the website)? any chance it's OSS and can be ("can be" meaning legally allowed to be) ported to other browsers?

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      My life in the land of the rising sun.

    13. Re:are you making this up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Nice city, shame about the people.

      True, but then you could say that about a lot of cities.


  24. Re: Just not very imperial... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  25. If you don't like Slashdot, don't visit Slashdot. by yerricde · · Score: 1

    The worst terrorist attack in recorded history

    The atrocities committed against the innocent civilians in the World Trade Center (killing approximately 3,000) pale in comparison to the atrocities committed by the Axis powers of World War II against innocent civilians of certain ethnic groups (killing well over six million).

    and you people have the gall to be discussing robots????

    If you don't like the topics discussed on Slashdot, then don't visit Slashdot. If you want to talk politics, there are several other sites for that.

    Go away troll.

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  26. These are not big enough by teamhasnoi · · Score: 1, Funny
    to protect us all from THE TERRIBLE SECRET OF SPACE!

    However, I believe Grandma's poodle can be protected quite easily. Thank god for small miracles.

  27. 3 laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    does this robot follow the 3 laws ?

    1. Re:3 laws by 1nhuman · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Nah, don't worry about the laws just yet. Wait until a robot kills it's first victim!

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  28. Re: Just not very imperial... by psavo · · Score: 1

    take a coin. shear it to cover about 1m^2. Now, will it sink? Why?

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  29. A few suggestions... by betat · · Score: 1, Funny

    make a female robot and post an ad on /.

    it'll be sold out in 2 minutes ;)

    1. Re:A few suggestions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Made in Hong Kong
      nainen mulla on
      Made in Hong Kong
      riemu verraton

      (mods: If you don't understand this, don't bother. It's in Finnish, and if you don't know Finnish it's simply a sign of you being an inferior being. Nothing worse than that.)

  30. Short by doormat · · Score: 1

    58cm tall? I'm still not seeing how this is going to help. Maybe keep elderly people company, but couldnt do anything for them physically.

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    1. Re:Short by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it could push bread down their throats for example. I guess that if you want to shove around the blind people you need an Asimo though.

  31. deep thoughts.... by tankdilla · · Score: 1

    God created humans.
    Humans created robots.
    Robots will create _____?

    And isn't it something how humans strive to be like God (ie creating life), while making robots to be more human (Short Circuit and AI come to mind too)? What will be like the robots? Probably whatever the robots create.

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    1. Re:deep thoughts.... by sxpert · · Score: 1

      robots will get rid of humans
      http://www.terminator3.com

    2. Re:deep thoughts.... by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      Robots will create God

    3. Re:deep thoughts.... by sxpert · · Score: 1

      No, Dubya already did that one ;-)

    4. Re:deep thoughts.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      God created humans.
      Humans created robots.
      Robots will create THE BORG

      http://grove.ufl.edu/~locutus/Bit/bit.html

    5. Re:deep thoughts.... by ralphart · · Score: 1, Funny

      >God created humans.
      >Humans created robots.
      >Robots will create _____?

      Unemployment?

  32. I see it now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We can say "Danger will Robenson, Danger" 5000 different ways

  33. Babebot by SnuSnu · · Score: 3, Funny

    Me so horny, me love you long time... Prease to insert credit card.

    1. Re:Babebot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's an idea for a female robot. Take on of those Japanese robots and put a naked female figure mold on it similar to those lifelike dolls. Who cares if they don't have fluid motion yet, lifelike jigglies would sell like hotcakes.

    2. Re:Babebot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "what is that on your collar?"
      -"a peace symbol sir"

      "what's written in your helmet?"
      -"born to kill humans sir"

      "is that a joke"
      -No sir i think it represents the duality in robotkind sir...i think

  34. Re:Some serious awards! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They could win some serious awards for this buddy, especially with the UCOSA's premiering this year! Lets hope they get nominated!

  35. Re:why do the Japanese love these things so much? by localghost · · Score: 1

    But see, that can't be it, because if they were soulless, they wouldn't love anything.

    (and yes, soulless has 2 l's, I looked it up)

  36. Real World Robots by rpiquepa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Sony is introducing a new robot, but this is only part of the story. Sony is betting its future on robots. Sony believes robotics will be bigger than the computer industry in 30 years. And there are many other robots coming, in hospitals, in New York steam pipes or on the battlefield. Look for example at Elvis, designed by Pyxis, which carries medications, or the future Mitsubishi Heavy Industries' Wakamaru, a home caretaker for the elderly. Check this column for more details or read this Newsweekarticle.

    1. Re:Real World Robots by cybrpnk2 · · Score: 1

      Check out this article about the half-ounce robots we ran over on SciFiToday. Hey, add our headlines to your Slashdot home page with a strategic click here!

    2. Re:Real World Robots by Hentai · · Score: 1

      or the future Mitsubishi Heavy Industries' Wakamaru, a home caretaker for the elderly ... None of these people have seen Roujin Z, have they?

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  37. Re:US complains of Iraqi 'deception' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    It's kind of funny that during the war of US independence the English also complained about the cowardly tactics employed by the colonists.

    You see, this cowardly bunch refused to fight honorably by marching in straight lines towards the enemy lines and stopping once in a while to exchange fire with him. Hell, that's what the real soldiers would do. Instead these bastards hid in forests, moved around and used what we now call guerilla tactics.

  38. Re:War on line: Al Jazeera went off line by arcite · · Score: 1

    Its online just try reloading the site a few times. I think they are still working out the bugs actually.

  39. One question, by arcite · · Score: 1

    Can I have sex with it? If not I'm not interested :D This is the 21st Century dammit! I want my cars to fly, and my robots to be sex slaves!

  40. Safety functions? by More+Karma+Than+God · · Score: 1

    Like Asimov's three laws of robotics?

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    1. Re:Safety functions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No robot ever created has been nearly advanced enough that it could begin to implement Asimov's laws, and most likely if such AI is ever achieved, they would still be controlled by much lower level overrides.

      Safety functions for current robots and ones in the foreseeable future are probably more related to avoiding crashing into things, breaking things and simply remote off switches/safe words.

    2. Re:Safety functions? by yasth · · Score: 1

      Asimov was very nice storyteller, but his three laws are unworkable. There are a lot of grey areas where even a human would have trouble if they had to follow those laws. What is more is that the basic premise of rule #1 is wrong. Harming a human is what a lot of upcoming robots will be made to do. Even aside from that, the culpability is wholly in the one who told it do the harm, just like a remote control plane. A robot not meant to harm humans will no doubt be trained/programed not to, but if it does, it will almost certainly have no idea that it is harming humans. In other words if it has a problem it will probably be a perceptional one, and it would still do the same "bad" thing laws or no laws.

      Rule #2 assumes a far too broad a role for the robot. A street cleaning robot is not going to be able to get you a beer. Also there are massive problems with authorization. These robots will try to do what you tell them to do, but once they can do more ownership becomes more important.

      The interplay between Rules #2 and #3 is silly. A million dollar robot shouldn't just wander into a ravine because someone said go left 10 meters. It should at a minimum ask for clear affirmitive confirmation. The actual interplay is more fuzzy (which asimov actually addressed in a short story dealing with an expensive robot on Mercury), that "fuzziness" is the point. To break it down:

      Fuzzy laws for Fuzzy Logic.

      That is basically it situations in real life require fuzzy laws, not hard and fast unbreakable commandments.

      As an aside these robots seem to be of the "progmatic" (i.e. hardish coded behaviors) type, ie. no different then the program on a copmuter. The most popular conception of robots is as a "learning" (i.e. Neural Networks etc.) type. Then again the popular perception of say Chess Playing was that it would be solved by learning type machines, and it was solved instead progmaticly. This applies in some ways to computers in general as well. So maybe plain old code will bring robots to the present.

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  41. I'm not impressed... by Bluesman · · Score: 1

    Until it comes with the Jet-Jaguar theme song, standard.

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  42. You promised! by m00nun1t · · Score: 1

    Robot schmobot.

    I was promised a flying car. Anyone up for a class action law suit against "Popular Mechanics"?

  43. ok, let's get this straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Ok, let's get straight to the facts.

    We have the technology to make a robot think, computers. We have the technology to create the *way* a robot thinks, programming. We have the technology to dress it, and paint it and make it look cute.

    We even have the technology to make it move.

    BUT, we don't have the technology to make it look *natural* both in the looks and the touch.

    You may think I'm making a lough, but I'm god damn serious.

    We need more technology in the venue of robotic movements and materials it is constructed from, than programming, 20000 word ravings and such.

    True, programming of such things may be pain, but at least we *can* do it. Make it look extremely natural and feel natural at a touch, it's not something we can do yet.

    (yes, I know this brings thoughts about female robots and rest bs, but to make something usefull that has to move around your house it must look natural, I don't want a fridge going aroung my room)

    1. Re:ok, let's get this straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AI certainly hasn't advanced far enough that they would approach even Turing's (very lenient) definition of thinking.

  44. eh, boring by andih8u · · Score: 1

    I'll be interested in getting a robot when it can transform from a jet to giant mech and comes standard with gattling cannon and official Robotech drunken missiles.

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  45. Robots! by starphish · · Score: 1, Funny

    starphish writes "Sony introduces Robot Frank, it's new version of the humanoid Robot Ron."

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  46. robots next dominant consumer computer paradigm? by Miguel+de+Icaza · · Score: 1

    looks like the time is on the horizon when instead of lugging around laptops and mobile phones our prinary computer will walk loyally behind us all day. Stick a touchscreen in its belly and browse the internet fullscreen on the train - of course you'll have to pay for 2 seats (holy cow - imagine the i,pact on trafic cogestion if bums on seats had to double). Overall what with robots and the new tech i'm developing the next decade is gonna be an interesting period to be alive :^)

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  47. Re: Just not very imperial... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes.

    Because I dropped it in thin side first.

  48. Now that's progress! by CyberGrunt · · Score: 2, Funny

    It can sing and dance... hopefully soon it will be able to play baseball, bike ride, and go for hikes so I will have more time to slave away at my meanial labor.

  49. Re: Just not very imperial... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    That volume is the smallest rectangular prism that will hold it, not the actual volume of the robot. Looking at the pic of the robot, it is much smaller than 1/4th the size of such a box, so it would be denser than water. Damn, you're fucking stupid. The best thing we could do for humanity is tie a lead weight around your neck and dumb you in the lake.

  50. If I had one... by batobin · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I had one, I'd program it to recognize my friends. Then if one of them said something mean about my girlfriend, I'd tell my robot, "Say hello to [name].

    The robot would then proceed to the violating friend, begin humping his leg, shouting, "I LOVE YOU ORGANIC MASTER!"

    But that's just me...

    1. Re:If I had one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -signed,
      One of your friends

  51. Cool, but... by hahn · · Score: 1

    The new speech processor supports continuous speech recognition with about 20,000 words. ...will it dance if I start singing "Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto..."?

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  52. Helpers for the disabled by -douggy · · Score: 1
    Currently we use small monkeys to help out the disabled and frail (pray for mojo) if these little robots continue improving they could be a much cheaper and better alternative

    without the fun of drunk monkeys

  53. With a name like robodex... by fgb · · Score: 2, Funny

    It sounds like a new PDA.

    So, how many contacts can it hold?

    1. Re:With a name like robodex... by VoidVector · · Score: 1

      It's a PDA that contains a list of robots and their descriptions. I heard the first version will be able to identify 151 robots.

  54. New safety functions? by Edd · · Score: 0

    Scratchy: Kill
    Humans: Do not hurt

  55. When... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...robots are outlawed, only outlaws will have robots.

  56. Kizmit - the Apple based Robot by adzoox · · Score: 1
    I have been reading a lot about KizMIT, the "interactive" AI robot experiment at MIT. He is based on the brains of a PowerBook G3 - something that seems to be more unique in the scientific field.

    I recently saw "Robots!" on Modern marvels on the History Channel. Most of the modern robots such as the one seen in the Honda commercial "Asimo", the Sony Robot in this article, KizMIT (who looks like a Jim Henson reject), and another famous pattern recognizing robot were all on the show.

    I heard the Sony CEO say at the MacWorld Expo in a conference that he thinks that robots are the future of Sony. They will carry everything electronic in the house and do everything electronic in the house. he says they will have projectors for our TV, be our wireless basestations, transform and be our "Segways" - he even used a minicon from Transformers Armada to illustrate that he sees all this within 30 years.

    To tie those two stories together. the History Channel had the leading Scientists in Robotics comment on the future. They came to a consensus that we wouldn't even have something remotely close to R2D2 in 100 years and C3Po in 200 years and Rosie from the Jetsons in 300 years.

    I think companies like Apple will lead the way for innovation and consumer appeal/design/functionality of robots for the consumer.

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    1. Re:Kizmit - the Apple based Robot by Anonymous+Cow+herd · · Score: 1

      I heard the Sony CEO say at the MacWorld Expo in a conference that he thinks that robots are the future of Sony. They will carry everything electronic in the house and do everything electronic in the house.

      Great, so now when the robot likes what's on the radio and I want to change the station, I have to chase him around the house? *sigh*

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  57. Useful Robots by squaretorus · · Score: 1

    I want a robot that cleans my bathroom - cleans the shower tiles, cleans the floor, picks hair out of the plug and does that hard to reach bit round the back of the loo!

    Show me one of those for the price of a Dyson and I'll buy! It could be a little roaming sucker that returns to the sink to 'wash out' and 'soap up' every now and then.

    Could scare the crap out of you if you forgot about it and got up for a night time whizz!

    1. Re:Useful Robots by binaryDigit · · Score: 1

      What's a Dyson?

      Plus, if you're gonna have the thing in and around the toilet all the time anyway, why not have it in charge of cleaning, uh, everything. Who needs a bidet anyway ;) Just better hope it doesn't pull a HAL at an inappropriate time.

    2. Re:Useful Robots by squaretorus · · Score: 1

      Dyson - google is a wonderful thing!!!

    3. Re:Useful Robots by binaryDigit · · Score: 1

      Dyson [google.com] - google is a wonderful thing!!!

      So are we talking the vacuum or the filter? (I assume the former).

  58. It's cool and all but ... by binaryDigit · · Score: 1

    Control Program Supplying media 16MB Memory Stick

    It uses memory stick so it must suck and any decent /.'er will avoid it.

  59. Not already! by PygmyTrojan · · Score: 1

    Did anoyone else feel sad after looking at the picture of the group of Sony SDR-4Xs? They already have them looking like N'Sync! Damn Japanese popculture.

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  60. This is cool and all... by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 1

    I'd really love to have 10 of these little guys, But.

    1. Only Bill Gates or someone similarily funded cound afford to ever have this..

    2. It's short 58cm tall.

    3. The old version, on a full charge lasted 20 mins... hopefully fuel cells or micro turbines will solve this problem.

    What I'd really like is a whole army those these guys, only I'd like them to be 6 feet tall and strong enough to do construction work! We could put cute little construction hats on them! Oh wait, I've been watching the animatrix too much ;-)

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  61. But... by dshaun · · Score: 0

    ... do they use their powers for good, or for awesome?

  62. not so by SetiAlphaOne · · Score: 1

    A household robot would not even use GPS. GPS has no data on obstacles, home furnishings, or even the lay of the land. Expect collision sensors and imagine them like a bat's sonar chirp/hearing system.

  63. it does look and feel natural FOR A ROBOT by SetiAlphaOne · · Score: 1


    Doesn't look and feel natural? Let's see -- it looks like a robot and feels like a robot. AH, is it that it doesn't look and feel organic?

    Take a look at some of the robots out there now. Insects, Canines, Egg-shaped, Humanoid, etc, etc. Hardly a fridge moving around the room?

    We can hardly make it think, but we can make it process information in a particular fashion. We can build it bodies, though currently they are not disguised as humans. Maybe you're looking for more of a flesh-encased cyborg?

    Give it some time.

  64. Yes, yes, yes, but... by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 1
    ...can it appear at press conferences and move its head woodenly while speaking in a flat monotone and spouting pre-recorded clichés about why we are invading foreign countries?

    Until robots achieve that level of verisimilitude, no one will mistake them for, er, um..."humans".

  65. The SDR-4X II begins to learn at a geometric rate by darthgoat · · Score: 1

    It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.

  66. Re:robots next dominant consumer computer paradigm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stick a touchscreen in its belly and browse the internet fullscreen on the train

    Yeah sure, then paint it purple, stick a triangle on its head and spread nasty rumours about its sexual preferences...

  67. Re:robots next dominant consumer computer paradigm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Explanation? Point? Please

  68. So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't care how smart it is or how cute it is - none of that matters if IT HASN'T GOT OPPOSABLE THUMBS.

    No usable hands makes it a walking voice operated notepad and answering machine. Big deal.

  69. Re:1st by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Afraid not, ballbag.

  70. Open Pino by SubtleNuance · · Score: 2, Informative

    have a look at Open Pino for anyone interested in a Free Software implementation of a Robot - as well as Free (as in speech) design.

    Who would buy a "stop them at the router, stop them at the blah blah" (remember that quote?) product from Sony?

  71. Ask Slashdot by njdj · · Score: 2, Funny

    When will Slashdot editors learn to spell "its"?

  72. so by djupedal · · Score: 1

    How do you know? How many do you own? I'm imagining uses that aren't common now, and projecting forward. Soon, GPS will come in all cell-phones, cars, cameras, etc. Not hard to imagine it as a stock component for a household robot...even if it won't work indoors :)

  73. Re:US complains of Iraqi 'deception' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Iraqis are just defending their fucking country.

    No, they're not, you fucking idiot. The few who are putting up a fight are defending the tyrannical terror-regime of Saddam Hussein. They're not defending Iraq; nobody is attacking Iraq. They're defending a socialist, Stalinist, totalitarian dictator.

    You must have NO fucking sympathy for the Iraqi soldiers and partisans. NONE. They have made their choice: they would rather live under the thumb of a latter-day Stalin than live in freedom and democracy. They will be CRUSHED under the boots of the Coalition forces. The vast, vast majority of the Iraqis, something like 23-1/2 million of them, will be liberated and free to decide their own destinies.

  74. Improved safety functions by glwtta · · Score: 3, Funny
    The new version SDR-4X II has improved [...] safety functions...

    What like:

    The SDR-4X II may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

    The SDR-4X II must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

    The SDR-4X II must protect its own existence, except where such protection would conflict with the First or Second Law.

    Or do they mean no sharp edges for when kids try to lick it?
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  75. It just talks??? by Dareth · · Score: 1

    Damn, if you just want to talk a woman will suffice... err.. oh wait, this is Slashdot...

    Save robots for the meaningful stuff, like battlebots and cool stuff like that.

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    I only look human.
    My mother is a halfling and my dad is an ogre, so that makes me an Ogreling
  76. Is it called John Quincy Adding-Machine? by payndz · · Score: 2, Funny
    "He struck a chord with the voters when he pledged not to go on a killing spree."
    "But like most politicians, he promised more than he could deliver."

    Still, considering all the fuel-cell articles that have been on /. recently, maybe we really *will* have robots that run on alcohol!

    "Yes! In your face, Gandhi!"

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    You must think in Russian.
  77. Re:robots next dominant consumer computer paradigm by metachimp · · Score: 1

    Teletubbies, you ignorant yokel. You been living under a rock?

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  78. Helper robot.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    PAK CHOOIE UNF

  79. Re:INSANE MESSENGER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The sad thing is that my first reaction to this was "Hey, you don't need the ,1 on the end of that load statement, 'cause that's a basic program".

  80. Re:robots next dominant consumer computer paradigm by aecidium+glaze · · Score: 1

    Ah! Thankyou. I thought he was aluding to the imposter: "Miguel de Icaza" trying to imply miguel was somehow gay or .... ? There is some cheeky bullshit in this fella's journal.

    I didn't getit then, but I used to watch lots of teletubies buck in my student days. I remember one time being very stoned while watching one of the segments where they go into the TV screen where some kids were visiting a zoo. Anyways sudenly I discovered I had the power of premonition and was announcing to the room exactly what animal would appear next and what it would do "elephant, giraffe ripping at trees, kids feed llama, it spits at camera"- everyone was astonished at the accuracy even if these were repeats from way back. I was quite unnerved and upset and maintained I'd never really watched more than a few seconds of the tubbies before. Had a dizzy spell.

    A week later I found out that segment of the show is shown twice in loop with hardly any gap. I'd picked all up subliminaly in a trance about 5 minutes earlier.

    how offtopic was that!

    By the way kids. LOL but drugs don't work - I was off my tits for two years and barely graduated. My brain was damaged, not good.

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