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Mandrake Linux 9.1 (Bamboo) Is Available!
Not to load you up with Mandrake, but joestar writes "Mandrake Linux 9.1 (Bamboo) is now officially available at a number of FTP mirrors. This version appears to be a key release for MandrakeSoft and includes many new features such as a new simplified installation procedure, ZeroConf network support, Wi-Fi support, NTFS partition resizing and a brand-new... MandrakeGalaxy theme. It's very beautiful and the whole thing has apparently very few bugs, which is a good news. A full presentation is available at Mandrake's website, download is available from their FTP page as usual. As I see it, it's certainly the most important Mandrake release since version 7.0..." Update: 03/25 21:44 GMT by T : And if you like the distro, you can do both yourself and Mandrake a favor by ordering box sets straight from them, or joining Mandrake's Club.
'available' might be stretching things a bit.
"Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus."
Release Candidate 2 is being served from most of these servers.
I would encourage you all to buy the CD Set to support continuing development of this distrobution. Mandrake have been having problems recently, and every purchase counts :)
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Duval was interviewed today at Tweakhound.com about this new release and other MandrakeSoft projects:e rview.htm
http://www.tweakhound.com/mdk9/articles/mdk9_1int
What do you see as Mandrake's advantage over other Linux distributions?
Firstly Mandrake is certainly one of the most innovative Linux distribution. It also offers unique features such as supermount or the dynamic-device desktop. The hardware support is also one of the best available on the Linux distribution market so far. Internationalization is also a key-point because only 40% of our users speak English.
Worth a read!
it's not like it's a new release of Debian. Now THAT'S something to get excited about!
I can't get to the servers. Does anyone know if they're still using the 700 mb ISOs? My ghetto CD burner chokes after about 670mb.
This is a really strange statement. How can you know that there are few bugs when it has just been released? Of course the people who made it wouldn't have released it if they knew there were a lot of bugs, but making the connection to few bugs is... well unfounded. For a system like Debian woody with a 2.2 kernel you can probably safely talk about very few bugs, since it's been out and about and tested for very long.
Mandrake put up a release notice on their site over 2.5 hours ago, and the mirrors list has been dynamically updated as access and load changed. The German mirror (ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de) is no longer listed and accepting connections, however I was able to pull the three disks down at about 360 kB/s average. ftp://linux.ups-tlse.fr/Mandrake/iso/ was also fairly rapid, but was overloaded before the Esslingen server was.
There are currently no North American servers listed for the i586 ISOs, many still carry the RC images however.
perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10)'
- Better auto-configuration at installation. It was able to detect everything perfectly -- down to model number. This is a definite change from 9.0 in which I had to configure my printer, scanner, and sound card.
- It's a much cleaner look. Blame it on the widgets, but it is a much better look and something that will definitely help it as it matures.
- Better support for my GeForce4. I was unable to get any decent gameplay under 9.0, but in 9.1 it runs great, divx plays smooth, and I'm once again happy.
- Easy installation. This is a non-issue for most of us, but I am now able to recommend my grandmother to install this on her own. It really is that simple.
These are the first things I can think of, I've had it running for a total of 12 minutes (and I'm already back on slashdot!) so there may be some other issues I've yet to come across.!--Note, I read the earlier review at OSnews and our good friend Eugenia was discussing an issue in which it didn't detect the right sound card (it found the Audigy instead of emu10k), well, I have the same card as her, and it found it fine and it sounds great. --!
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That I am very glad I get that 20 minutes warning with my subscription.
I got most of the download done before the slashdot crowd reduced by speed considerably.
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here
Hail to the king, baby!
Actually, the Mandrake website says the new version supports "Re-sizing of Windows FAT partitions" but that NTFS support is strictly read-only, which sucks. You got my hopes up there for a while.
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I thought they were going to limit the release to Mandrake Club subscribers to start with, and only make FTP access available much later. What happened to that idea?
Anyone on I2 can get them from here:
http://mandrake.dsi.internet2.edu/
I'm currently grabbing all 3 ISO's at 350k/sec.
Im glad to see a linux distributor hyping the zeroconf protocol. It has always seemed to be a perfect match for me. here is an underlying protocol that when coupled with a _good_ gui install makes a very compelling product from an ease of use standpoint (let alone cost). Having Apple as a cheerleader will help as well, and already compaines like HP and TIVO are including zeroconf support. Imagine it, TIVO could work easier on a linux box than a comprable PC....Just a possibility. Another possibility that I hardly dare mention was a rumor that people (Apple) were working on local ZeroConf networks that offloaded intensive tasks to idle processors - Rendezvous/ZeroConf may a long (paradigm breaking) life ahead of it, its up to the imagination of the developers.
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One of the things I rarely see on KazAa or eMule are linux .iso's. If anything, here's a perfect example of a potential legitimate usage for P2P.
If you were me, you'd be good lookin'. - six string samurai
And to not purchase it, you are stabbing one of the major Linux distro makers in the back. Mandrake has absolutely NO control over the actions of the government, just as I have no control over my government. I voted for the Alliance party, but they didn't get in because of the other people in my country... Mandrake has nothing to do with politics, and to draw that relationship is very immature and stupid.
We are not IGNORING GNOME menu layout..
It simply doesn't fit our needs (and we have the same objections for KDE menu layout)..
And if you don't like Mandrake menu layout, run menudrake and choose "Original menu style" in Menu Style dialog.. You'll have to create a new foot menu on your panel, due to limitation in gnome-panel..
Then where will you be? Whining that RedHat doesn't offer free downloads. Sheeesh...
I use Slackware and I support em! They don't even sell CDs, but I think they do good work and I want them to stay around, so... Otherwise, I'll end up whining that RedHat (Or SuSE, or whomever) doesn't offer free downloads any longer.
It's not expensive and it's worthwhile.
Computer Science is Applied Philosophy
If you run MenuDrake, you can tell the system to use the standard Gnome menus. The change takes effect on next login.
No no no, isn't that "Freedom company?" Like "Fredom Fries" and "Freedom Toast?"
I'll tell ya, we sure have some stupid congressmen in our country.
I dunno if anybody else noticed that on the presnetation it states:
Kernel 2.4.21
but kernel.org has the latest stable version 2.4.20
Is this just a typo or they have released a "stable" release using an untested kernel???
The greatest thing about Mandrake 9.X is that it completely eliminates dependency issues... rpms are easy to install for those that don't wish to compile from source.
I've been running a cooker version of 9.X for many months and even that is surprisingly stable.
This is the kind of OS package worth paying for!
Does it take advantage of Intel Pentium III technology for that?
according to Jean-Michel Dault:
Can we use it if we call it Freedom Linux?
Now where did I put my French Coke? I'd like to finish enjoying my French hamburger.
I remember that one of my friends once offered the services of his ISP to provide free downloads. The next month he received a very large bill. Remember when you download these "free" ISOs that there is a cost for the ftp sites that provide the ISOs for free to everyone. It can actually get to be very very expensive to provide free ISOs ($7-10 per download). Also, remember that there were costs in testing and developing the distribution, and that whenever you download an ISO for free you are taking advantage of the resources that were put towards the quality distribution that you will experience.
:)
Mandrake is a fine company that really really needs our support right now. Whether you can help by lending them some of your time to fix bugs, or by providing software to make their distribution better, or (like most non-developers) by purchasing their distribution, I strongly encourage everyone who uses Mandrake to do their part.
(I use Slackware, but bought a copy of Mandrake for my brother a while ago because he uses Mandrake.)
An easy and cheap way that you can reduce your impact on ftp sites and also help to share the costs of distribution is to download the ISO from a P2P network (just check the md5sum against the official one from the ftp site when you're done), and/or set yourself up as a P2P mirror so that a few people can download the ISO from you. This is the best use of P2P that I can think of (much better than providing illegal copies of copyrighted music or movies). Another way you can help is to burn some CDs for your windows-using friends so they can try it out!
Mandrake is a French product. To purchase it means to stand up for the international diplomacy, national sovereignty, and the rule of law.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
You're right. Drake doesn't offer anything to paying people at all.
Except for, well... professional support that's not all condescending if you don't copy-paste lsmod and lspci in all your questions... and non-slashdotted servers with which you can download the files so it doesn't grind to a halt like the one I'm downloading off of (I think I broke 4 kB/s... Woohoo!)
Nope. Nothing useful at all.
Or, heh... you know... maybe people could choose to support a company because they're not all proprietary and demand that you pay for their product, thus making people that want to use it for free criminals... But no, that would be stupid and naieve. I mean, think of all the pr0n sites you could visit with that whole $40/year.
People like you are why I feel ashamed of the world today.
Karma: Non-Heinous
I only wish it wouls support me. I've purchased ~10 distros, dating back to SuSE 6.1, RedHat 6.3, Mandrake 7.1, 8.0, 8.2, just to name a few.
Everytime I run into trouble I get the same response: "RTFM"
Well I *did* RTFM and the FM didn't help, this is why I was posting to your Linux forum!
I have yet to see an install of the aforementioned distros install successfully (and by that I mean see all my hardware) on any machine I care to throw at it. BeOS however (and MS, but that goes without saying) sees the hardware just fine.
I want to like Linux, I really do, but all I ever see from them is copying/playing catchup to MS.
Maybe this distro will be a different experience for me, but I kind of doubt it.
So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds.
I'd like to know why Mandrake is behind in an area that is *very* important to the desktop user.
...
Make that "was" instead of "is". And it was only Redhat that was ahead (really), the proprietary distros (Lindows etc) apparently just licensed the Apple patent, which shouldn't bother you if you are not in the US, since you could just get a better freetype from the PLF.
But that is no longer the case, fonts on 9.1 rock, although it might have been nice to be able to include freetype2.1.4
If you're not familiar with BitTorrent, it takes a large file (typically CD-size) chunks it up into ~1MB pieces, and client/peers who want the file either get chunks from the server or get pointed to other clients who already have them, and after receiving chunks correctly, make them available for other client/peers to download. The server keeps track of who's got what, manages its outgoing rates to something it can handle, and does some optimization to make sure all the chunks are getting handed out widely and efficiently, and either the client or server (I don't remember which, probably the server) does some anti-leech scheduling so that clients basically end up receiving at about the rate they're letting other people download from them if there's demand.
One big difference between BitTorrent and the eDonkey/Kazaa/etc. P2P systems is that it's designed on a per-file basis - anybody who wants to export a given file can be a server for that file, and the client/peer process only exports files that it's actively connected to (either still downloading or being friendly and letting other people download after it's done), rather than exporting everything in your file-sharing directory.
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By absolutely refusing to budge on your position and to say "I will not even read their proposal?" That is your idea of diplomacy?
>>>>>>>>>
No, by respecting the UN and allowing the process to work.
By selling outlawed weapons to an evil dictator?
>>>>>>>>>>
What country do you think propped up dictators (included Saddam) all through the Cold War? Hint: it wasn't France. Who do you think trained the people who would eventually become the Taliban? Again, not France. It was the US.
By interceding(sic) in the Ivory Coast when no one asked them to? I don't recall UN approval of that action. Where is the diplomacy there?
>>>>>>>
France sent peacekeeping troops to the Ivory coast because there are a whole bunch of French citizens living there.
Look, the point isn't whether France is great (it isn't, every country pretty much sucks donkey balls) or whether you even agree with what France's stance on the war is. The point is whether you can relate to their decision in a mature way without doing stupid stuff like renaming fast food.
A deep unwavering belief is a sure sign you're missing something...
Wait a minute... Things aren't right here. I thought the formula was fail miserably, give up, pout, and sue someone. Not(gasp)suck it up, improve your product so that even Her Pickiness, Eugenia likes it and keep giving back to the community. This makes no sense at all. Good job Mandrake.
This guy is way out there
I have briefly set up the following with lots of help from the folks on #bittorrent (thanks!):
Mandrake 9.1 Bittorrent link. If you are behind a NAT or a stateful firewall then the link will not work until a few people whose machines accept incomming connections start downloading from it. Clicking the link will not automatically work but it can easily be fed to the Bittorrent command line tools.
BitTorrent Link of Mandrake 9.1 <-- You need BitTorrent to click here.
Download BitTorrent Here or `apt-get install bittorrent` on debian, and I think there is a port for it for you FreeBSD people.
Anyone who wants to get this file, should try using BitTorrent to get it. It is a file swarming application that helps everyone get the file by uploading pieces of the file you have already downloaded. It should transfer faster, and the best part is, everyone gets the file faster than the Mandrake FTP site, which I am sure has limited bandwidth.
Props to the other people mentioning BitTorrent.
You can't see this if you have sigs turned off.
There are only two choices:
1) A company that sticks to the values of Open Source/Free Software movement, and then has to remind the users from time to time that development costs.
2) A company that does not stick to these values, and try to turn Linux into proprietary system by putting its proprietary licenses on key parts of the system, and such.
The point is that companies of the second groop inherently have less interest in keeping the prices low and quality high than those of the first group... You just got rid of Microsoft BECAUSE they were the company of the second type, and now you are begging for a Linux-clone thereof? Does not make sense to me.
Mandrake is in the first group, and that's a Good Thing For You (TM), because it assures that you really OWN your software, and that the company can never become a big bad monopolist that does not care about your (customers) needs.
As for the MandrakeClub, it happens to be a very nice service that's worth the money you pay for it. IMHO, the 'Club' model is the future of free software financing, at least as far as SoHO and home users are concerned. All the other models I've seen so far are either:
Service offers targeting big companies
or:
Based on the idea that free software must be wrapped in proprietary license in order to sell it the classical way.
You mean because France doesn't do everything US wants them to do, they should be boycotted? And how exactly is France putting US soldiers at risk?
This may come as a shock to you, but the World is not US's playground where everyone must do whatever US wants them to do.
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I have to point out that I ran into several problems with the RPMS2 (aka Contrib) dir on all the mirrors I tried : libgcrypt*.rpm have wrong md5 sums and the synthesis file contain incorrect version info on the dillo package (0.7.1.2-1 instead of 0.7.0-1) which prevents urpmi from working properly.
Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
Yes, I know, offtopic...
I'd really just love to know how
(a) the _French_ Government put US soldiers lives in danger, when all they have done is attempt to stop the _US_ Government sticking them in a position where they are getting shot at, and
(b) why this means you should boycott Mandrake; its not a Government owned distro is it?
After all, if anyone is going to whinge about people's lives being put in danger it would be me (as a Brit) boycotting the US as its your President who has got British troops in the firing line (and done a rather better job of killing them than the Iraqis, while we mention it). I'm not doing so, however, as I fail to see how it would be Redhat's fault.
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