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Mandrake Linux 9.1 (Bamboo) Is Available!
Not to load you up with Mandrake, but joestar writes "Mandrake Linux 9.1 (Bamboo) is now officially available at a number of FTP mirrors. This version appears to be a key release for MandrakeSoft and includes many new features such as a new simplified installation procedure, ZeroConf network support, Wi-Fi support, NTFS partition resizing and a brand-new... MandrakeGalaxy theme. It's very beautiful and the whole thing has apparently very few bugs, which is a good news. A full presentation is available at Mandrake's website, download is available from their FTP page as usual. As I see it, it's certainly the most important Mandrake release since version 7.0..." Update: 03/25 21:44 GMT by T : And if you like the distro, you can do both yourself and Mandrake a favor by ordering box sets straight from them, or joining Mandrake's Club.
A LOW hug!
w00t!
I'm sure the people that care about Mandrake either will read it, or will already find out about this. Why use up a whole new story?
its a dupe
Before adopting WHATWG, read the moonlight.NET EULA [http://www.microsoft.com/interop/msnovellcollab/moonlight.mspx]
'available' might be stretching things a bit.
"Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus."
I have escaped from the vile "Love Dungeon" that Taco and Rob had imprisoned me. Although my backside now bears an uncanny resemblance the goatsex man, I'm glad to say that I'm alive. I was witness to numerous homosexual, bestial acts of the foulest nature one can imagine. Everytime I close my eyes I can still see Taco on his hands and knees, with a large Great Dane thrusting its red wang into his lips. *shudder*
Whilst imprisoned I was able to catch the briefest of glimpses of Jon Katz. Apparently Jon does not take part in the usual acts of sodomy that the rest of the Slashdot editors do. This would be because Jon weighs 500 pounds, and not even the desperate, love-stricken Slashdot editors find him attractive at all. Then again, at that weight the probably couldn't find his sphincter even if they wanted to.
Fellow trolls, please be aware that Taco loves nothing more than to parade around his mom's basement while wearing a black latez Nazi SS uniform. He keeps his arm greased up to the elbow and refers to himself as the "Tower of Power". Additionally, Timothy's anus is so loose that it was able to engulf Taco's fist like a python swallowing a guinea pig.
Finally, as I've previously mentioned no computers in the Slashdot compound actually run Linux. The bulk of them run various flavors of Windows, wiht a few lonely, neglected Macs throw in (the Slashdot webserver is actually an enfeebled Quadra 610.) When the leather penis-gag was removed from my mouth long enough to speak, I asked Taco about this. He replied by saying, "Haha! The readers are just fucking simps." before he stuffed a pair of panties previously worn by Kathryn Thurber into my mouth.
Troll 98 of 210 from the annals of the Troll Library .
Release Candidate 2 is being served from most of these servers.
I would encourage you all to buy the CD Set to support continuing development of this distrobution. Mandrake have been having problems recently, and every purchase counts :)
I've already sucked it down from the German mirror (no longer listed on Mandrake's site) and I'm burning the 3rd disk and starting a test install shortly... w00t!
perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10)'
...and I know this because the real Miguel is two doors down from me, and I know his real Slashdot ID.
--Nathaniel Friedman
CEO, Ximian Inc.
Can I have some more?
Some lucky people already got it. I am unfortuanelly victim to the dreaded "421 too many users" message. Anyone with a high speed connection that can mirror this?
and by high speed I mean more than a t-1 cuz it's gonna get saturated.
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I've always appreciated Mandrake Linux (I'm using it now.)
Having used both rc1, and rc2, let me be the first to say that I am impressed with this release, and it is well worth the money to support them.
Despite the fact that Mandrake is in financial trouble, it is reassuring to know that they still are producing.
I would suggest that everyone who wants to see Linux take over the desktop market seriously consider supporting these as well as other distributions, whether by opening your minds or your wallets.
$5 / month hosted VPS on linux = awesome!
Is this a GPL'd feature? Last I checked, the linux-NTFS project was unable to resize an NTFS partition.
There is no reasonable defense against an idiot with an agenda
:wq
Mandrake is a French company. Boycott any product from this arrogant, ignorant country. The french wont support us, but they will sure take our money.
Amazing! It is based off of a future kernel!
Mandrake is a French product. To purchase it is to stab all those American, British, Australian, Shiite, and Kurdish people who are battling for freedom in the back.
It looks like a -great- distribution, but there's not much "security" in using it..the company might not even be there tomorrow. I'd really like to have Mandrake installed on all the CS lab machines here to be honest, but when I bring it up to them their first question is, "Where will we get updates if they go bankrupt?" It's a shame, because it's probably the best distribution I've used :/
if this distro will be popular in Singapore.
Duval was interviewed today at Tweakhound.com about this new release and other MandrakeSoft projects:e rview.htm
http://www.tweakhound.com/mdk9/articles/mdk9_1int
What do you see as Mandrake's advantage over other Linux distributions?
Firstly Mandrake is certainly one of the most innovative Linux distribution. It also offers unique features such as supermount or the dynamic-device desktop. The hardware support is also one of the best available on the Linux distribution market so far. Internationalization is also a key-point because only 40% of our users speak English.
Worth a read!
it's not like it's a new release of Debian. Now THAT'S something to get excited about!
...and I know this cause I am ass fucking him doggy style in my dungeon right now. I hear he loves ass2mouth and I am gonna find out here in a second.
I can't get to the servers. Does anyone know if they're still using the 700 mb ISOs? My ghetto CD burner chokes after about 670mb.
This is a really strange statement. How can you know that there are few bugs when it has just been released? Of course the people who made it wouldn't have released it if they knew there were a lot of bugs, but making the connection to few bugs is... well unfounded. For a system like Debian woody with a 2.2 kernel you can probably safely talk about very few bugs, since it's been out and about and tested for very long.
why are you reading about Mandrake then? its a KDE-bias distro... nothing for you to see here :^)
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It's their choice to either make it available for download, or only offer the CDs. But all this "you can download, but please buy the CDs anyway" whining just makes me sick.
This song!
(just kidding)
Get off my launchpad!
I have mandrake 9 on my laptop and am very happy with it...however, being not a linux guru at all (which, in itself is testimony to how good mandrake is), upgrading versions very much concerns me. Can anyone comment on what kind of issues I can expect to experience during an upgrade from 9 to 9.1 (just general issues like is it a full reinstall, will it blow away data etc)
Mandrake put up a release notice on their site over 2.5 hours ago, and the mirrors list has been dynamically updated as access and load changed. The German mirror (ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de) is no longer listed and accepting connections, however I was able to pull the three disks down at about 360 kB/s average. ftp://linux.ups-tlse.fr/Mandrake/iso/ was also fairly rapid, but was overloaded before the Esslingen server was.
There are currently no North American servers listed for the i586 ISOs, many still carry the RC images however.
perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10)'
- Better auto-configuration at installation. It was able to detect everything perfectly -- down to model number. This is a definite change from 9.0 in which I had to configure my printer, scanner, and sound card.
- It's a much cleaner look. Blame it on the widgets, but it is a much better look and something that will definitely help it as it matures.
- Better support for my GeForce4. I was unable to get any decent gameplay under 9.0, but in 9.1 it runs great, divx plays smooth, and I'm once again happy.
- Easy installation. This is a non-issue for most of us, but I am now able to recommend my grandmother to install this on her own. It really is that simple.
These are the first things I can think of, I've had it running for a total of 12 minutes (and I'm already back on slashdot!) so there may be some other issues I've yet to come across.!--Note, I read the earlier review at OSnews and our good friend Eugenia was discussing an issue in which it didn't detect the right sound card (it found the Audigy instead of emu10k), well, I have the same card as her, and it found it fine and it sounds great. --!
This is my digital signature. 10011011001
That I am very glad I get that 20 minutes warning with my subscription.
I got most of the download done before the slashdot crowd reduced by speed considerably.
~ kjrose
Miguel de Icaza, you are the biggest douche in the universe.
Karma: The shiznight, mostly because I am the Drizzle.
As per usual, Mandrake has completely ignored the Gnome specs for menu layout, and have a completely non-standard menu system. All I can say is Ick, I'll wait 5 more days for RH 9 thanks. :(
9.0 release already if I remember correctly.
Had a lot of user requests, and listened.
Let's face it, all the distros currently aimed at desktop users are K-centric. Red Hat still plays down the importance of the desktop market and, umm, their tax monies may end up supporting America's rather peculiar foreign excursions that could be characterized as less than constructive. Would there be social demand for a new distro that concentrates on the G-experience in Mandrake style but with compatibility with the popular "plain Red Hat rpms"?
Should invading one's peaceful neighbours be opposed, or rewarded with trade deals?
If you are explain this post
.NET in order to break Mono?
How long before MS changes
Stop harassing the probably real miguel
Red Hat has just issued a press release that states that Red Hat Linux 9.2 was released three days ago. A spokesman for the company said: "We always one up our competitors, sometimes we just let people know about it later."
Actually, the Mandrake website says the new version supports "Re-sizing of Windows FAT partitions" but that NTFS support is strictly read-only, which sucks. You got my hopes up there for a while.
barzelay.net
Is there really a reason for the code names like Bamboo? I mean, you can refer to it as "Mandrake 9.1"? If you're working on the next version...you can refer to it as Mandrake 9.2!
Advice: on VPS providers
Anyone with the ISO's and a fat pipe want to share?
I thought they were going to limit the release to Mandrake Club subscribers to start with, and only make FTP access available much later. What happened to that idea?
Now I know why my download went from 220K to 68K and will take over 3 hours for just the 1st .iso...
Anyone on I2 can get them from here:
http://mandrake.dsi.internet2.edu/
I'm currently grabbing all 3 ISO's at 350k/sec.
Hey All. Any chance we can take some load off the mirrors (and save them a few bucks in bandwidth) by putting the ISO(s) up on the P2P networks? (Preferably e-mule/e-donkey)
The more linux progresses,the more money hungry they become,like some sort of sneaky VIRUS.
Thang God for Microsoft.
And stop impersonating hackers who are too busy doing real work to post stupidity on /.
Love, Ken.
Im glad to see a linux distributor hyping the zeroconf protocol. It has always seemed to be a perfect match for me. here is an underlying protocol that when coupled with a _good_ gui install makes a very compelling product from an ease of use standpoint (let alone cost). Having Apple as a cheerleader will help as well, and already compaines like HP and TIVO are including zeroconf support. Imagine it, TIVO could work easier on a linux box than a comprable PC....Just a possibility. Another possibility that I hardly dare mention was a rumor that people (Apple) were working on local ZeroConf networks that offloaded intensive tasks to idle processors - Rendezvous/ZeroConf may a long (paradigm breaking) life ahead of it, its up to the imagination of the developers.
---- The real Slashdot is still here. You just have to browse at -1 to read the comments.
I literally just downloaded, burned and installed an RC of this yesterday.
Join Mandrake Club. You'll be able to download things faster, too.
The great advantage of having a reputation for being stupid: People are less suspicious of you.
no, not really. I just wanted you to waste your mod points.
First U.S. President To Be Convicted Of DUI
Cheers,
W00t
Get Your War On
I have a PC at home that I don't use. If I installed Mandrake 9.1 and attached a printer to it, would my PowerBook see it using Rendezvous and be able to print to it? How would I set this up on the Mandrake side?
"The objective of securing the safety of Americans from crime and terror has been achieved." -- John Ashcroft
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Awww the widdle foreigner with the well earned inferiority complex is having another hissy fit.
Isn't that special?
Don't forget nanardon's site. For you who want additional media's added to urpmi , not supported , ....
java , plf , contrib ,
urpmiweb
-beer
Now that we've got them distracted with the shiny MDK, I can finally get Slackware 9!
Can someone please tell me they've improved upon the fonts? I can't tell from the screenshots and I won't have time to install it for a few days, but the default fonts for 9.0 are terrible. The default fonts on Red Hat are wonderful. Is RedHat using proprietary fonts? I'd like to know why Mandrake is behind in an area that is *very* important to the desktop user.
Inovative my foot! That's like our friends in Redmond claiming they inovate and after working there they I found they couldn't inovate their way out of a paper bag!
That said what Mandrake offers that others do not is user support. Mandrakeuser.org and Mandrake Forum, now Mandrake Club, as well as free software updates leave SUSE and Redhat behind. That's what sets them appart, their user community is tightly coupled to the company. I feel like I'm dealing with MS with the other two.
I messed around with Mandrake 9.1 RC1 a few days ago, but it wasn't able to compile the NVidia drivers with the rpm --rebuild command. Something about the compiler version being used to build the kernel being different from that shipped with RC1? Has anyone had any success rebuiling the NVidia driver RPM on the actual release version of Mandrake 9.1?
and the mirrors are all slashdotted to hell.
Black and grey are both shades of white.
Okay, we know SuSE is German (boo!) and Mandrake is French. Isn't Xandros Canadian? Corel sure is/was. And if you want to get technical about it, our Canadian neighbors/cousins aren't helping us out any. Whereas the cousin nations of Britain, the United States, and Australia are all helping to take Saddam out to the woodshop, where are our northern cousins up in that fake country of theirs? That fake country that our tax dollars help to defend, it should be noted... What will it take before you surrender your sovereignty to become part of the U.S. of North America? 1. Quebec independence? (good riddance) 2. The cancellation of all Alliance-Atlantis krap television productions? 3. The tanking of that *Monopoly* currency of yours? 4. U.S. adoption of le Metric system? 5. The U.S. normalizing relations with Castro? 6. The U.S. paying off its obligations in the Treaty of Paris to all the descendents of the disenfranchised Loyalists (then again, we should charge you'all for the Restoration on the White House since your forces torched it in the War of 1812)? 7. Americans beginning every sentence with "eh"? (much like the British start off everything with "right"). 8. Americans actually bothering to find Canada on a map (why should we?)? 9. The U.S. dropping the prohibition on accepting titles from the British Monarchy (I'd cheer that actually)? 9. Americans no longer mocking that "sport" you call curdling (isn't that what cheese does?)? 10. Martin Short for President? C'mon, what's your wishlist anyways? Don't you feel pretty lame that you have no forces in Iraq, yet Poland has commandos fighting? :)
"Right now, somewhere in this world, Scott Baio is plowing a woman he doesn't love," - Peter Griffin, *Family Guy*
Wow, Mandrake 9.1 seems to be from The Mysterious Future since according to their website they included a 2.4.21 kernel and according to kernel.org, the latest version is 2.4.20. Quite impressive, definately a distribution that's on the bleeding edge.
Things you think are in the Constitution, but are not.
I dunno if anybody else noticed that on the presnetation it states:
Kernel 2.4.21
but kernel.org has the latest stable version 2.4.20
Is this just a typo or they have released a "stable" release using an untested kernel???
The greatest thing about Mandrake 9.X is that it completely eliminates dependency issues... rpms are easy to install for those that don't wish to compile from source.
I've been running a cooker version of 9.X for many months and even that is surprisingly stable.
This is the kind of OS package worth paying for!
An even better idea: take the money you would have spent on this French product and donate it to an Iraqi dissident organization, or to a charity that assists the families of UK or US servicemen fallen in battle. I think you'll find you can live without Mandrake, and you'll sleep better without blood on your hands.
Because I am. And my lawyer is two doors away from you, too.
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(Shameless plug, I know)
i'm sharing this one right now on edonkey. At least i think i am...they're sitting in my mldonkey/incoming ...
Who is this Anonymous Coward character, how does he post so much, and why is he always such a whore?
One of the things that look promising is that Mandrake is now really using bugzilla (qa.mandrakesoft.com), you can get an account and help and they can track QA issues much more easily.
My only concern with Mandrake is how they can make a profit. I was hoping they would release the ISOs a few days after making them available in Mandrake Club (kind of what Redhat is doing with the next release). This would give people one more reason to be in the club. Also, the ISOs should be made public right after they are available to be purchased from MandrakeStore IMHO. Oh, and it would probably be a good idea to enforce trademark, so that cheap CD sites can't sell "Mandrake 9.1" (I think RedHat does this). In fact, if Mandrake made the "download version" (just the CD's) available cheap and early, I guess many people would guy the CDs on the mail instead of going through the hassle of downloading and burning.
In general, and I really don't mean to be mean, Mandrake should probably borrow a few ideas from Red Hat in the business camp. Otherwise they are doing great and improving :-)
MandrakeSoft (MAKE.PA): ? n/a (~$0)
If I "pre-order" from the Mandrake store, when do they ship? There's no listing for when it will ship. I don't want to get burned and have to wait a couple of months like with 9.0's release.
The dvd+cdrom version is US$69, which I don't have a problem with, but is there any benefit to joining the mandrakeclub first? If I join the club will they ship cd's now? Will I get a better price on the purchase?
I wish they'd put this on their web pages, because I don't want to buy and then find out I could have gotten it faster/better deal.
So are the gnome or kde people going to start jumping up and down about the common Galaxy theme? ;-)
I've experiments to run, there is research to be done on the people who are still alive.
I remember that one of my friends once offered the services of his ISP to provide free downloads. The next month he received a very large bill. Remember when you download these "free" ISOs that there is a cost for the ftp sites that provide the ISOs for free to everyone. It can actually get to be very very expensive to provide free ISOs ($7-10 per download). Also, remember that there were costs in testing and developing the distribution, and that whenever you download an ISO for free you are taking advantage of the resources that were put towards the quality distribution that you will experience.
:)
Mandrake is a fine company that really really needs our support right now. Whether you can help by lending them some of your time to fix bugs, or by providing software to make their distribution better, or (like most non-developers) by purchasing their distribution, I strongly encourage everyone who uses Mandrake to do their part.
(I use Slackware, but bought a copy of Mandrake for my brother a while ago because he uses Mandrake.)
An easy and cheap way that you can reduce your impact on ftp sites and also help to share the costs of distribution is to download the ISO from a P2P network (just check the md5sum against the official one from the ftp site when you're done), and/or set yourself up as a P2P mirror so that a few people can download the ISO from you. This is the best use of P2P that I can think of (much better than providing illegal copies of copyrighted music or movies). Another way you can help is to burn some CDs for your windows-using friends so they can try it out!
If you were working on a project, for 6 months, you wouldn't want to call it $Company+$SnazzyProjName+$CurrVersion every time. Call it something short and sweet.
Besides...if iwas a programmer, i'd like to use cool names. like bamboo and bluebird. it's not like intel doesn't do it, or microsoft. makes it personal...I'd put personal care into a project called "dolphin," but maybe not so much into "8.2" .
Who is this Anonymous Coward character, how does he post so much, and why is he always such a whore?
If you can't find a mirror that hasn't been slashdotted, try these links -
4 22 4|7422d9374a1bd9187254de638f47c7d3|| Mandrake91-cd2-ext.i586.iso|681279488 |9bc5687f06ecf26e1f767623dc8f6421|M andrake91-cd3-i18n.i586.iso|68157440 0|82530029d63b3624020fcc40aa9ad625|
ed2k://|file|Mandrake91-cd1-inst.i586.iso|68216
ed2k://|file
ed2k://|file|
and unlike ftp links, the more people that use these, the better.
The RC3 images are dated 3-24-2003, are these identical to the release like with some older mandrake versions? Can you post the md5sums for the release images so we can see if the RC3 images are the same?
Thanks
Kindness is the language which the deaf can hear and the blind can see. - Mark Twain
I guess that Mandrake releasing a "nine" version is possibly the reason why RedHat is releasing a "nine" version too... to catch up in the eyes of the users. Or maybe a marketing ploy to get more subscriptions because users always want the latest version (more urgently if it is an X.0 release).
It's similar to what happened with Netscape 6... it was released as MS Internet Explorer 6 was released, although there was never a Netscape 5. (Although the UserAgents show otherwise).
Personally, I like the simplicity/consistency that RedHatt brings, but the complexity is there if I need it. It's a shame CHAP doesn't work for me on RedHat 8.0, even when CHAP secrets is setup properly.
Are the days of RedHat point releases gone? I had it embedded in my mind that the X.0 release was a little buggy, but by the time it reached X.2 or X.3 it was nice and stable.
It does noy support my AIW Radeon 7500, and there are no drivers supporting it in Linux, just in windows.
And if you like the distro, you can do both yourself and Mandrake a favor by ordering box sets straight from them, or joining Mandrake's Club.
I'm sorry, but if ANYONE is going to be flushing MY money down a toilet, it's going to be ME. Thank you.
The Mplayer people say not to include mplayer in distro's so Mandrake complies bad, bad mandrake
:P
i just add plf sources to my urpmi database and then
su
urpmi mplayer
get asked if i want to install dependencys i type y
thats it mplayer installed after downloading it automagically.
So hard i know, glad i have a university degree or i don't know how i would manage.
"I am Spartacus!" (with appropriate pauses between each word)
I like the distribution as a desktop OS. May as well get the new one while you can. Just don't pay for it. It'd suck if they went out of business, but some things are more important than Easy-to-use Linux.
I only wish it wouls support me. I've purchased ~10 distros, dating back to SuSE 6.1, RedHat 6.3, Mandrake 7.1, 8.0, 8.2, just to name a few.
Everytime I run into trouble I get the same response: "RTFM"
Well I *did* RTFM and the FM didn't help, this is why I was posting to your Linux forum!
I have yet to see an install of the aforementioned distros install successfully (and by that I mean see all my hardware) on any machine I care to throw at it. BeOS however (and MS, but that goes without saying) sees the hardware just fine.
I want to like Linux, I really do, but all I ever see from them is copying/playing catchup to MS.
Maybe this distro will be a different experience for me, but I kind of doubt it.
So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds.
Look here, you obviously didn't read my post last time you stuck up idiot.
If Mandrake provides free downloads, it is not freeloading. Your elitist view of those who download and use Mandrake for free sickens me and provides just another reason not to join the smug gold, silver, piss yellow, or whatever color scheme system Mandrake uses for those who contribute financially.
When I download Mandrake's newest version, I'll laugh and not pay a cent, and think of you as I "freeload" what Mandrake provides for free.
Idiot.
Dear Professor Linux,
How can I keep from soiling my underpanties in a fit of apoplexy every time I hear wee French referred to as "cheese-eating surrender monkeys"?
Sincerely,
Francois "Vichy" P.
P.S. Why in the world do they call it "frenching"??? You know, "it".
I'd like to know why Mandrake is behind in an area that is *very* important to the desktop user.
...
Make that "was" instead of "is". And it was only Redhat that was ahead (really), the proprietary distros (Lindows etc) apparently just licensed the Apple patent, which shouldn't bother you if you are not in the US, since you could just get a better freetype from the PLF.
But that is no longer the case, fonts on 9.1 rock, although it might have been nice to be able to include freetype2.1.4
If you're not familiar with BitTorrent, it takes a large file (typically CD-size) chunks it up into ~1MB pieces, and client/peers who want the file either get chunks from the server or get pointed to other clients who already have them, and after receiving chunks correctly, make them available for other client/peers to download. The server keeps track of who's got what, manages its outgoing rates to something it can handle, and does some optimization to make sure all the chunks are getting handed out widely and efficiently, and either the client or server (I don't remember which, probably the server) does some anti-leech scheduling so that clients basically end up receiving at about the rate they're letting other people download from them if there's demand.
One big difference between BitTorrent and the eDonkey/Kazaa/etc. P2P systems is that it's designed on a per-file basis - anybody who wants to export a given file can be a server for that file, and the client/peer process only exports files that it's actively connected to (either still downloading or being friendly and letting other people download after it's done), rather than exporting everything in your file-sharing directory.
Bill Stewart
New Fast-Compression-only CPR http://preview.tinyurl.com/dy575ks
Tell them to stick their distro up their Chirac.
I agree. Maybe I'll just download the latest version that Mandrake provides for FREE and print out a little picture for the CD cover which contains these images:
A Llama : representing the idiots who chant "freeloader" and whine about how we should contribute to Mandrake.
A French Flag : For obvious reasons
Then I should eat junk food for 48 hours and save my bowel movement for that whole 48 hours until I have massive cramps and then squat over those CDs with the pictures of the images listed above on them and let it all out, a nice stinky mess ALL over the CDs.
Europa Endlos
I know a Slashdot subscription isn't a lot of money, but what are you really getting? You need something to fill your life up with if you download a new distro release the second it's posted on here, and pay for that privilege.
It's rare that you're presented with a knob whose only two positions are Make History and Flee Your Glorious Destiny.
Mandrake club?
I veto that every time I boot REDHAT
I'm tired of supporting a bunch of effite socialists who think they are a Super Power until they get their tit in a wringer, then they come begging the rest of the world to save their worthless hides.
I stopped using Mandrake as soon as they started begging. Let them fail!
I don't think it's so much a case of liking free-loading as not liking having to shell out lots of cash for software that is poorly written (you know what I'm talking about). Mandrake 9.1 however, is a well done distro - I've been using it since RC1. I can safely say really wouldn't mind paying for it and have just joined the Mandrake Club, since I think these guys have EARNED my support.
Find a job you like and you will never work a day in your life.
Give to Debian or even Redhat..Don't support Distro's like Mandrake or SUSE that are based in weasel countries while our troops are dying for us.
Down with French and German "Weasels"!!!
Rant from USN vet.
"Science is like sex: sometimes something useful comes out, but that is not the reason we are doing it" Richard Feynman
right now, probably all the non-club guys are getting screwed on the mirrors. Club members are downloading from their nicely reserved mirrors (should be fast...but i'm not in the club, i got it yesterday morning as RC3). Who would you rather be a part of?
Me...i just like being good.
Who is this Anonymous Coward character, how does he post so much, and why is he always such a whore?
Sorry, to tell ya, but you are comparing people dying to war with a linux distro.
This is like if i compare my XP rebooting to the 9.11 !
In mankind i trust.
-SLK
its nice to see that the linucies are taking the look and feel thing seriously. This release looks great, no Aqua, but better than XP. And its not just KDE 3.whatever or Gnome 2, cause there are some hideous looking themes for both. its nice to see that the default environment, the one that most users never change, looks good. its also nice to know that at any time i can do whatever i feel like with it, which i cant do (easily) in OSX.
I want 2D games back.
Does any one know if you are running Red Hat 8.0 with software raid 5, can you upgrade to this and maintain your raid volumes.
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It manages your man pages, duh
heh
//FIXME: Bad
Magical is having it work out-the-box, which all the boxed sets have done since about 8.1.
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First boot you will see the NVidia logo as X starts.
Even easier than having to actually *download* a driver, like in windows
Guess I shuold also get around to updating http://ranger.dnsalias.com/nvidia_me for 9.1
Gnome2 was rebuilt from cooker/9.0 for 8.2 a while back. It was available in the MandrakeClub at the time, but may be available in the MandrakeClub directory under unsupported on the Mandrake-devel mirrors.
... as the people running Tex's freetype2 on 9.0 found out ...
There would be more complications with Gnome2.2 for 9.0, since AFAIK 2.2. requires fontconfig, which can (via Xft1/Xft2 etc) break fonts in some ways in OpenOffice.org
Wait a minute... Things aren't right here. I thought the formula was fail miserably, give up, pout, and sue someone. Not(gasp)suck it up, improve your product so that even Her Pickiness, Eugenia likes it and keep giving back to the community. This makes no sense at all. Good job Mandrake.
This guy is way out there
I have used Mandrake for some time and like it. But shouldn't us patriotic Americans be boycotting Mandrake...and maybe SUSE too for that matter? Maybe I'll go try Redhat again....
I think we should try to use these very useful technologies for legal things as much as possible. I promise to share it through mldonkey once I get it.
You are a nation of pussies. You have no business existing on the same planet as actual human beings. You are lower than low. You are cowards. You have no morals. You French people should commit suicide because you are worthless. You are ugly, too.
I have briefly set up the following with lots of help from the folks on #bittorrent (thanks!):
Mandrake 9.1 Bittorrent link. If you are behind a NAT or a stateful firewall then the link will not work until a few people whose machines accept incomming connections start downloading from it. Clicking the link will not automatically work but it can easily be fed to the Bittorrent command line tools.
If all else fails, try getting it via Bittorrent (see this other Bittorrent post for more details).
BitTorrent Link of Mandrake 9.1 <-- You need BitTorrent to click here.
Download BitTorrent Here or `apt-get install bittorrent` on debian, and I think there is a port for it for you FreeBSD people.
Anyone who wants to get this file, should try using BitTorrent to get it. It is a file swarming application that helps everyone get the file by uploading pieces of the file you have already downloaded. It should transfer faster, and the best part is, everyone gets the file faster than the Mandrake FTP site, which I am sure has limited bandwidth.
Props to the other people mentioning BitTorrent.
You can't see this if you have sigs turned off.
Eugenia, if you hadn't figured it out yet, does some crazy stuff.
on my system, it booted quite speedily, and that's a 300mhz k6-2. Boot time was nice and fast...system was pretty responsive running kde. definately usable.
sure there are some services, but nothing ridiculous. And mdk's services manager let's you pick and choose, stop and start, easily.
I'm sorry us poor mandrake users aren't as l33t as the gentoo folks...
Who is this Anonymous Coward character, how does he post so much, and why is he always such a whore?
yes. optimized for mmx technologies. and chicken.
Who is this Anonymous Coward character, how does he post so much, and why is he always such a whore?
Fuck the stinking unwashed French, all of them. They steal fungus from the mouths of starving pigs. They're a cowardly lot of leftist leeches.
OK new rule, 24 hour waiting period before posting that a distro has been released, the load on the mirrors is insane.
oh. in that case, i'm retarded. :D
Who is this Anonymous Coward character, how does he post so much, and why is he always such a whore?
i'm sharing the files...no one has downloaded them. perhaps because they are labelled as rc3 and not final?
Who is this Anonymous Coward character, how does he post so much, and why is he always such a whore?
so right before Microsoft plans to ditch NTFS for WinFS (there database like filesystem) we get NTFS resize features...
--- Brad (http://www.LinuxReview.net)
YAY Linux for morons....
err....I mean LINUX for me....
1. See Mandrake post on slashdot
2. leave work early to download
3. ????
4. Profit....no wait get Fired yah thats what would happen, oh well fuck it I can't wait YAY Mandrake!
p.s. I like mandrake So I became a member!...I just hope I didn't waist my money and give it to the liquidators
--meh--
Not all mirrors have the Final version, but one can get the RC3 from mirrors (ex: metalab, listed under 'MandrakeSecurity MNF for i586 and more.'). The MD5 are the same!
Did you have an opportunity to find out how 9.1 handles existing configurations of things such as XAWTV/Streamer/PHP/SAMBA/USB/QuickTime, etc.?
If you had something relative to the above, did the existing configurations carry forward with or without effort?
Hey, what do you get when you cross Mandrake 9 (Bamboo) and Red Hat 8 (Limbo)?
Answer: Windows (Bimbo)
And remember to leave the window open for a while after you finish downloading so others can get it too.
i'm suprised by the lack of mirrors at this point. i'm not in a HUGE rush to upgrade to 9.1, but i was hoping i could get into a mirror and D/L the 3 CD's overnight.
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I guess what' I'm trying to ask is will speed vary according to which link I use? And is my upload more effective (shared with more people with one link than another? Or do they all somehow go into the same bandwidth pool?
Information doesn't want to be anthropomorphized anymore.
is there and update to go from 9.0 to 9.1 without having to download the whole iso?
I always thought that if an OS could replace Windows on the desktop of 90% of users, Mandrake would be the one. It's by far the easiest to use for newbies. I'm not a fan of *nix, I even consider myself a microsoft fanboy. But I know what I like, and I like this one a lot. Too bad my first Linux experience was Initial GUI Setup, reboot, then kernel panic. If you thought blue screens weren't very descriptive, you should see a Linux dump. I'm willing to try again tough!
Trolls dont like to be Flamebait, because they burn so well. Protect our Troll heritage!
Yep, you had the same bug I did...pre-2.4.20 kernels have an allergy to NForce USB and it caused Linux to lock up tight as a drum. When the problem is the kernel you can safely say that Linux indeed locked up.
The 2.4.20 Linus kernel did the trick for my A7N-266-VM, I now have a really kickin' gaming box...and it doesn't run Windows. MDK9 plus the new kernel plus the nvdriver makes for a potent combo, especially when you have a GeForce Ti4200 in the AGP slot.
Gotta love ASUS...the Toyota of motherboard manufacturers. Well crafted and will last almost forever if you care for it right.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge shared is power multiplied.
i'm still using debian unstable for my linux partitions. been thinking about doing a switch-over... can anyone tell me why i would want to do a switch over. btw, is mandrake having easier font setup out of the box?
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Hello. I installed the 9.1 RC2. I was not lucky with it. I like Mandrake over Redhat because the menus are arranged more unstandably, ICS and server settings look to be good.
However, there is a serious problem. I can't connect to the net. I have two network card. One is D-Link 530-FD? and RTL 8029 NIC. Although it can ping with IP address but can't ping to www.yahoo.com, for example. I couldn't figure out how to see the retrieved DNS server information and others. There is no half/full duplex mode changer.
When I have upgraded Linux for myself for 10 years, however current Linuxes don't look to be good for changing setting, etc.
Anyway, is ther any problem with the 9.1 Final?
Sorry...but even though I love Mandrake and think is it the finest distro out there, when their gov't puts my brothers in arms lives in jeopardy, I have to say "No Thanks" Looks like I will be waiting for RedHat
Win if you can... Lose if you must... But always CHEAT!
We've seen major Linux distros increase their version numbers rapidly over the past year, but have there been any serious innovations? It seems to me that the average Joe User still cannot do an installation entirely by himself. While the UIs have seen a lot of improvement... even distributions like Mandrake are still at a high technical level. Of course, it's not like most people can do a Windows installation by themselves. MacOS X certainly pulls this one off. ;-)
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How about a more intuitive way to set up servers, DNS, Shares, etc. Themes are nice, and I will appreciate the Wireless support on my laprop, but it would be nice not to have to jump through my own ass to get interchange, etc. to do what I want. Yes, I know....RTFM. sorry
Redhat 8, Mandrake 8.2 and 9.0 are available on giFT. I know, because I put them there.
It may be my dirty mind, but did anyone else read "Prostitute" when they saw Mandrake's "Prosuite" pack?
Well, too bad for 9.1
/mnt/cdrom instead. I can't use Konqueror to copy files from
No, this is not a troll or flame bait. I LOVE Linux, I'm just frustrated
with Mandrake, and with good cause.
I've had enough trouble that I just purchased Suse 8.1
Flakey fonts, flakey video, flakey lilo, flakey sound, flakey you name it.
It was fun though, it was my training wheels, Mandrake got me going.
I've fought and fought with with it and just can't handle it any more.
When I discovered that they took some shortcuts on the kernel source and
header files to make it easier for THEM that was the straw that broke the
camels back. I've lost an entire month trying to get my VIVO card working
so I edit and begin producing some DIY home repair video tapes.
I've tried for weeks to get my VIVO card working and it will not work unless
I build a custom kernel. Nope, not gonna do it.
I loaded Suse up just as a trail run and it was beautiful, the fonts were
excellent, it was very crisp, very clean. I really liked the look and
feel. And the first thing it did was detect my Nvidia card and inform me
that they could not distribute drivers for legal reasons. It then asked me
if I wanted to connect to the Nvidia server to download and install the
drivers. I clicked yes and a few seconds later it informed that I needed
to restart X to begin using my newly installed drivers. I did and it was
great! I had total HELL getting them installed with Mandrake, I spent
weeks trying and printed a REEM of help files, forums, and readme's..
I had HELL with the on board AC97 sound card and stuck in a PCI sound card.
It still makes farting noises when I scroll graphics or try to scan with my
SCSI HP 4P scanner. I can't scan anything bigger than a postage stamp
without a kernel panic. Mandrake handles the interrupts on my brand new
mobo like shit.
Every other time I boot the fonts go from big to little. Web pages are so
damn tiny you can't read them. I have set the fonts, carefully too, and as
I said, sometimes they look great, sometimes they SUCK.
Mandrake Lilo sucks. It just SUCKS. 9 out of 10 times it will not boot.
I thought my hard drive was bad until I discovered that with Suse it would
boot 100% of the time using GRUB. So I dumped Mandrake lilo and and now it
boots everytime with grub.
Supermount superSUCKS. What total shit. I disabled it and just manually
mount the CD and floppy when I need it. Never could find UNMOUNT though.
I just eject
the CDR to HDD, I have to use MC.
All in all, all the problems FORCED me to dig in and learn. I'll always
remember Mandrake, and I'll still recomend it for beginners. It's an OK
system for people that never tinker with things. I have several friends
that use it and are very happy, they just click and drool. I set them up
to browse, download MP3's, burn music CD's, download pictures from usenet,
and email friends. It works fine for them and they are just hunkey dorey
happy. But they don't know any different, and they have NO desire to screw
around with it.
I HAVE to be on the bleeding edge because I have to have a hi-pref PC for
video production and I have to be several steps ahead of the people I
support so that I can answer their questions and fix their problems.
Mandrake is a good system for beginners if your needs are lightweight but if
you have to have a workhorse you better be prepared to do battle with it to
get it there and to keep it there. If you just want something other than
winblows for simple Internet use and as a first Linux box, Mandrake it OK.
It was fun but I must move up to a more serious distro.
No time for fiddling around, I have to go to work now.
Well Mandrake, all I can say is Auf Wiedersehen!!
Just crusing around the Mirrors on Mandrakes page I found this ftp://ftp.phys.ttu.edu/pub/mandrake/iso Not listed but the ISO's are there none the less. Is Mandrake gonna hate me for spilling the news? :) Prolly shouldnt tell you since it will ruin my download times. Oh well. Enjoy...
For anyone who uses BitTorrent, here is a torrent file with which to download the ISO.
I don't know Lloyd...the French are assholes
Pay attention here... the french server was surrendering. Just like the french army.
Question: how many frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?
Answer: Nobody knows, it's never been done.
What kind of people would steal fungus from a starving pig's mouth and eat it themselves? The french.
"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a french one behind me."
-- General George S. Patton
"Going to war without france is like going deer hunting without your accordion."
--Norman Schwartzkopf
"We can stand here like the french, or we can do something about it."
-- Marge Simpson
"As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure"
--Jacques Chirac, President of france
"As far as france is concerned, you're right."
--Rush Limbaugh,
Next time there's a war in Europe, the loser has to keep france.
An old saying:
Raise your right hand if you like the french....
Raise both hands if you are french.
"I don't know why people are surprised that france won't help us get Saddam out of Iraq.
After all, france wouldn't help us get the Germans out of france!"
--Jay Leno
"The last time the french asked for 'more proof' it rolled into Paris under a German flag."
--David Letterman
REPLACEMENTS FOR THE french NATIONAL ANTHEM:
"Runaway" by Del Shannon,
"Walk Right In" by the Rooftop Singers,
"Everybody's Somebody's" Fool by Connie Francis,
"Running Scared" by Roy Orbison,
"I Really Don't Want to Know" by Tommy Edwards,
"Surrender" by Elvis Presley,
"Save It For Me" by The Four Seasons,
"Live and Let Die" by Wings,
"I'm Leaving It All Up To You" by Donny and Marie Osmond,
"What a Fool Believes" by the Doobie Brothers,
"Don't Worry, Be Happy" by Bobby McFerrin
"Raise Your Hands" by Jon Bon Jovi
Sorry, but I'm french so I don't understand all subtilities of english language. Is freedom is synonymous for oil in us english ?
Ciryon
There are only two choices:
1) A company that sticks to the values of Open Source/Free Software movement, and then has to remind the users from time to time that development costs.
2) A company that does not stick to these values, and try to turn Linux into proprietary system by putting its proprietary licenses on key parts of the system, and such.
The point is that companies of the second groop inherently have less interest in keeping the prices low and quality high than those of the first group... You just got rid of Microsoft BECAUSE they were the company of the second type, and now you are begging for a Linux-clone thereof? Does not make sense to me.
Mandrake is in the first group, and that's a Good Thing For You (TM), because it assures that you really OWN your software, and that the company can never become a big bad monopolist that does not care about your (customers) needs.
As for the MandrakeClub, it happens to be a very nice service that's worth the money you pay for it. IMHO, the 'Club' model is the future of free software financing, at least as far as SoHO and home users are concerned. All the other models I've seen so far are either:
Service offers targeting big companies
or:
Based on the idea that free software must be wrapped in proprietary license in order to sell it the classical way.
I'm a bit curious on the following issue: I've been told by people who used to work for MandrakeSoft that the company was having serious financial problem.
In a nutshell, they have not-enormous, but significant, expenses, mostly personnel (programmers etc...) and they don't make that much money - there are not that many people that buy the CDs (as opposed to downloading ISOs or copying the CDs).
Can anyone confirm?
I have to point out that I ran into several problems with the RPMS2 (aka Contrib) dir on all the mirrors I tried : libgcrypt*.rpm have wrong md5 sums and the synthesis file contain incorrect version info on the dillo package (0.7.1.2-1 instead of 0.7.0-1) which prevents urpmi from working properly.
Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
and perhaps you might come to the conclusion that helping Donald Rumsfeld take revenge on the man who betrayed him after he betrayed Saddam Hussein (with military support for Iran after a promise to support Iraq in the fight against the Ayatohlla) does not constitue 'patriotism'.
This is just one of the many possible explanations.
After years of support and many, many billions in arms something has convinced your government to 'invest' 85.000.0000.000 dollar in the removal of a former ally. Why?
And perhaps we shouldn'd mix Open Source and politics?
And, of course, consider joining Mandrake club after downloading the distro.
-Yenya
--
While Linux is larger than Emacs, at least Linux has the excuse that it has to be. --Linus
Cheapbytes has excellent prices on distributions.
You can get the disks shipped to you overnight for under $30 if you want them that fast and want to spend the extra money for express shipping. Or under $15 if you get it shipped 2 day express.
If you are really insistent on spending $70, you can order Red Hat, Mandrake, and a third, fourth, and fifth distro of your choice, and have everything shipped overnight, and probably have some coin left over.
By scheduling a 9.x release skipping their 8.1 and 8.2 updates?
Does anyone else find this interesting/amusing, seeing as Mandrake is largely a tuned repackaging of RedHat.
Sig for sale or rent. One previous user. Inquire within.
ed2k://|file|Mandrake91-cd1-inst.i586.iso|68216422 4|7422d9374a1bd9187254de638f47c7d3|8 |9bc5687f06ecf26e1f767623dc8f6421|0 0|82530029d63b3624020fcc40aa9ad625|
ed2k://|file|Mandrake91-cd2-ext.i586.iso|68127948
ed2k://|file|Mandrake91-cd3-i18n.i586.iso|6815744
and unlike ftp links, the more people that use these, the better.
We're bored. When Americans party, we do it big. Real big. Just look at the glorious events of today. Wave after wave after wave of the special armed forces of Saddam attacking American troops, and being mowed down by the glorious M-16 without a single American casualty in that battle.
And let's not forget the bonus modifiers. Up north, we get to watch the Kurds rip Saddam supporters to pieces with their bare hands. And in Basra, We get to watch the Shiites chop up the Saddam supporters while we blockade the town (ok, ok, the Brits are happily helping us out, we can't take all the credit).
We get to have our cake, and eat it too. First we get the Afghanis and even Saddam to run interference with the Soviets. Once that's done, we string along Saddam for the oil while we horde our own oil, and he runs interference for us by keeping the territory from breaking apart, with the Kurds taking the North, the shiites taking part of the south, and the Sunnis taking the rest.
All in all, a symbiotic relationship.
Go Remmy!
Not quite....but I did to get Mandrake 9.1 RC2 to install and run
inside VMWare Workstation 4.0 Beta (this is a few days b4 the 9.1 final release).
Check out the screenshots.
There is something seemingly dangerous about running beta software inside beta VMs...
Your not very smart, are you?
gutless AC wonder
Mandrake 9.1 BETA RC2 Available to order
Be the first on your block to check out 9.1! Shipping $6.99
Yeah, that's great. Any I bet none of that money goes to Mandrake itself.
I checked their site but found nothing about this... anyone know if they are supporting the TI WiFi chipsets? D-Link makes some nice cards...
Yes it is called Bush-talk.
America: Welcome to 1984, who are you at war with this month?
... is what Monsieur Chirac says to his favorite Uncle Saddam! M. Chirac smiles, almost in a pleading manner, as if silently begging his Sugar Daddy Saddam to give his brave country even more lucrative Food For Oil contracts and nuclear power plant construction contracts.
"Nein! I like to eat his sperm BETTER!" interrupts Herr Schroeder immediately, peering anxiously at his Sugar Daddy Saddam, worried that his rival may gain even a temporary advantage in receiving the great leader's favor!
Little Monsieur Chirac and little Herr Schroeder get to feel like such big boys when they're around their favorite Uncle! They just wish they didn't have to have their Uncle's icky penis in their mouths so often! "Here," they both offer, chiming up at the same time, "take our wives, instead! You'll like them much better! Or how about our own children? Most of them are still underage! Anything you want, Uncle Saddam, you can certainly have. Because we're the LEADERS of our proud countries, each the product of CENTURIES of cultural progress!"
And MAN am i impressed. the install went flawlessly and the look and feel is beautiful. I highly reccommend everyone take a look at this for their desktop OS at the very least!
Mandrake was a tuned version of Red Hat...at version 6.x.
Version 9.x is completely different. Try it before making uninformed comments.
Some of you folks need to get laid more often! Relax! Get some perspective...oh, sorry...I forgot...this is slashdot!
America hasn't got any friends as such, only pissed off trading "partners" and a lot of orphaned kids who can't wait to grow up and enter their revenge phase. Cause and Effect - basic international policy the US just doesn't get.
Feh. Did you even read what I wrote? You have the same rights I do. You may exercise your rights to the degree that they do not interfere with my exercise of mine, and vice versa. Hold your sign, travel around, assemble where you want, etc. Just know that obstructing traffic and throwing things at buildings and passersby are not looked at kindly, and for good reason, because you've begun to infringe on others' rights.
As far as the traffic argument, don't be a troll. I understand the concept of sharing limited resources, like freeway throughput. Do you?
Constitutionally Correct
We don't claim Interactive EasyFlow is good for anything -- if you
think it is, great, but it's up to you to decide. If Interactive EasyFlow
doesn't work: tough. If you lose a million because Interactive EasyFlow
messes up, it's you that's out the million, not us. If you don't like this
disclaimer: tough. We reserve the right to do the absolute minimum provided
by law, up to and including nothing.
This is basically the same disclaimer that comes with all software
packages, but ours is in plain English and theirs is in legalese.
We didn't really want to include any disclaimer at all, but our
lawyers insisted. We tried to ignore them but they threatened us with the
attack shark at which point we relented.
-- Haven Tree Software Limited, "Interactive EasyFlow"
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