Los Alamos to Use AMD's Opteron in Linux Clusters
nuke-alwin writes "eWeek is reporting that Los Alamos National Laboratory announced it will use more than 3,300 Opteron chips in two of its Linux clusters. According to the article 'The key to Opteron, as it tries to gain traction not only against Intel Corp.'s 64-bit Itanium chip but also its 32-bit Xeon offerings, is its ability to run both 32-bit and 64-bit applications equally well.'"
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Intel can't compete with the Opteron on merits alone. It will be interesting to see what they try next.
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imagine a beowulf cluster of these clusters!
They can use it to run eweek's server ;)
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$2,306,700 and that is if they order their SCO liscenses before mid-October. I wonder whether the state of Utah won't suffer an un-accounted for nuclear accident in close vicinity to SCO's offices.
Doesn't the 32 bit compatibility need a reboot to use, then another reboot back to 64? I've been reading a thread about Opterons on spymac where someone insisted this was the case.
Anyone know for sure either way?
Imagine a beowulf cluster of those!
Actually, what's stopping Intel from shipping both the 32 and 64 bit chips on one board?
A programmer is a machine for converting coffee into code.
# 2003-08-14 15:56:07 Los Alamos lab orders largest Linux cluster ever c (articles,linux) (rejected)
Though Wei Long Hee was found to be not at fault for the disappearance of the top secret hard disks, there does seem to be a concerted effort by the Chinese government to infiltrate the Los Alamos lab. It is well-known that the Opteron chips and mobos are manufactured in mainland China. It is also well-known that the Chinese (as well as the Russians, but they aren't exactly a superpower anymore) put bugs (listening devices) in the walls of the governmental buildings around the country. What would stop them from putting data-wrangling code into the Opteron chips?
This is one case where supporting a U.S. company like Intel who manufactures all of their hardware in the USA is a good idea. I'm not one to be tooting Intel's horn, especially considering their heavy handed tactics, but when it comes to national security it doesn't make sense to contract that out to a potential enemy.
IBM did that.
We were all warned a long time ago that MS products sucked, remember the Magic 8 Ball said, "Outlook not so good"
"An error occurred on the server when processing the URL. Please contact the system administrator."
Perhaps eWeek should look into getting 3300 Opterons themselves?
Article text anyone?
Still plenty of floor space in the new building.
That they were to pony up millions of $$$ for free software, Los Alamos has decided to change the mission.
The new object of the project is precise targeting of the
Manhatten Project II on SCO HQ so as to cause as little collateral damage to Utah residents.
Remember, when you hear the siren, duck and cover.
*/waves buh bye to SCO/*
Los Alamos to get Lightning computer system from Linux Networx
LANL
For more specific technical detail on the supercomputer Linux Networx is building for Los Alamos, go to
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Any savings in price per CPU will be offset by cost of paying SCO $700. per node.
AMD: good choice
linux: bad choice
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Microsoft pre-beta Windows for AMD64 available(to resellers)
Opteron 246 Overclocking Benchmarks
Whenever the offence inspires less horror than the punishment, the rigour of penal law is obliged to give way...
What people don't realize is that while the Pentiums they used before might not have been as quick, they were nevertheless a better buy because they served a dual purpose of, besides computing, producing enough heat to trigger small fusion reactions simply by placing certain radioactive isotopes close to the computer
This doubling of utility made the Pentiums far superior, i think, to the AMDs for Los Alamos' use, but i guess some suit at a desk ignorant of the technical issues just wasn't aware of that
Your tax dollars at work i suppose
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I think eWeek needs the Opterons as well...and a bigger pipe...
I'm gonna wait for the standard "Here's the entire article" post now...
Never underestimate the predictability of human stupidity...
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the f00f bug...
is linux enterprise ready?
My problem? I was perfectly gruntled, until some numbnuts came by and dissed me.
To the guy who says Opterons are made in China. Wrong fool. They are made in Dresden,Germany
WTF??? It was FUNNY.
so as to cause as little collateral damage to Utah residents.
Why?. Its not as though Utah residents haven't been sucking up the rads for decades now.
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eweek has a cunning defense against the /. effect. It consists of a daemon that determines when the site is being slashdotted and then sets the webserver to give an error message for a preset period of time. Till, oh, lets say the admin comes in in the morning and has his cup of coffee.
Yeah, and you also need to reboot your Pentiums to run 16-bit code.
It is just the state of a flag in a control register. In particular, see page 68 of
AMD's Opteron System Programming Guide.
64-bit mode is enabled with the flip of bit 8 of the EFER Model-Specific Register. Otherwise it defaults to 32-bit mode. OS designers should test/set this bit just before running a thread in the scheduler, or jumping into system code as it can only be modified by code running in ring 0. This is the same way people treated the Virtual-8086 (16-bit) mode bit in CR0. In fact, you can combine the protected-mode, virtual-8086 mode, and "long mode" bits to have a variety of register-size and memory addressing modes per thread.
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put bugs (listening devices) in the walls of the governmental buildings around the country
You mean like the US planted bugs in the new Chinese presidential airplane?
but when it comes to national security
It's a computer chip. Plug it in, it crunches numbers.
What would stop them from putting data-wrangling code into the Opteron chips?
Because the numbers that it crunches would be wrong. Remember Intel's bugs? People find them. Besides, computational experiments are built with a certain redundancy and lots of checks.
It's a non-issue and you're being paranoid. Been watching a little too much Faux News recently?
Quoth the author:
nuke-alwin writes "eWeek is reporting that Los Alamos National Laboratory announced it will use more than 3,300 Opteron chips in two of its Linux clusters...." (emphasis mine)
From lanl.gov:
Lightning includes 2,816 Opteron processors from Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), making it the largest Opteron system delivered in 2003 and the first 64-bit Linux supercomputer in the ASCI program.
Last I checked, 2816 is less than 3,300, though I can't get to the e-week article. Are the extra 500 chips in case of failure? But an 18% failure rate seems rather high....
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Terr'ists just knocked out power on the East Coast and you geeks are talking about fucking CPUs!? GET SOME PRIORITIES!!!!!!
Also, who ate all the bugles?
I'm a computer scientist, and still 3,300 Opteron chips in the lab's setup blows my mind.
Wow.
This is off-topic...
But has anyone else noticed there are a ton less commments now that 20 million people have no electricity?
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You need the 64 bit OS, as you might expect, because allowing an application to address a 64 bit memory space while the OS is only capable of managing a 32 bit one, well, wouldn't work out very well. Hint: It's really tough returning from system calls made from the upper few terabytes of memory.
So, a 32 bit OS starts out "seeing" your standard 32 bit X86 CPU. This is the legacy mode, and looks like any 32 bit CPU out there today.
On Opteron, a 64 bit OS will also know how to set the new "Long Mode". Bzzt...A bunch of new instructions and handy registers magically appear.
From there, the OS can mark each code segment (your program) as being in "Compatibilty" (32 bit) or "64 bit" mode.
For more than you ever wanted to know...
Opteron Tech Manuals can be found here.
I saw quite a few of their new clusters ready to ship out. I had to constantly wipe the drool off my face while I watched them assemble 2GHZ dual Opteron boxes with 2GB RAM per processor. Their tech is impressive. They have their Ice Box control units and quite a bit of custom control/monitoring hardware that makes building your own cluster seem less advantageous.
They boast #3 on the worlds fastest super computers, so questions about Linux on the "Enterprise" should be easily resolved.
This Tom's hardware review of Opteron vs. Xeon is quite interesting to give a better feel for comparison to todays speeds.
It will be nice when we have some numbers to compare Itanium II direct 64 bit to Opteron, although it doesn't seem much can save the Itanic IMHO.
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It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 9350657f its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another t
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It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 9325226f its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another t
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It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 9364103f its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another t
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Try to bend other people's dicks instead of strechting new assholes.
Ingest other people's semen before spooging your own to avoid simply duplicating what has already been spooged.
Use a clear dildo that describes what your choad is about.
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It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 9315712f its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another t
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Try to bend other people's dicks instead of strechting new assholes.
Ingest other people's semen before spooging your own to avoid simply duplicating what has already been spooged.
Use a clear dildo that describes what your choad is about.
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It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 9327775f its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another t
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Please try to keep penises in CmdrTaco.
Try to bend other people's dicks instead of strechting new assholes.
Ingest other people's semen before spooging your own to avoid simply duplicating what has already been spooged.
Use a clear dildo that describes what your choad is about.
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It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 9375053f its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another t
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Try to bend other people's dicks instead of strechting new assholes.
Ingest other people's semen before spooging your own to avoid simply duplicating what has already been spooged.
Use a clear dildo that describes what your choad is about.
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It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amazingkreskin.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 9364463f its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another t
Don't forget the "G5" (PPC 970). It runs 64/32. Not sure how to compare the price since you can't buy G5s alone (damn Apple). But as I recall, a dual MB with two of the fastest Opterons on the market ran to about $2,000 USD on Pricewatch. The dual 2Ghz G5 is 3 grand. So 1 grand difference but you get a sweet case, DVD-R, 160GB HDD, 512 RAM, Radeon 9600, keyboard, mouse, OS, all their onboard stuff, and 9 fans.
FUD and FUD alone. I bought a dual Opteron and am using it right now.
:) It has a horribly slow software emulation layer to run 32 bit apps.
The Opteron's lower 32 bit registers look just like an Athlon's or P4 registers. When code wants to run in 32 bit mode, it just uses those registers. When the second process wants to run in 64 bit, it uses the lower 32 bit registers as well as the upper 32 new registers.
It's the Itanium chips (64 bit from Intel) that you are thinging of.
AMDs 32 bit implentation is in the silicon. Can't beat that.
look at the close up... you may notice the MADE IN MALASIA markings...
Now, maybe that's just the engineering sample, but a tech at Linux Networx told me today that they just got a large shipment of 2GHZ Opterons direct from Singapore...
My Linux Command of the Day site : LCOD
Can you say SMP can you say SCO can you say pay lets see how much can you ask from the OS licensee to the mother of all clusters. Dig deep Los Alamos you are very close to where Davy Crocket died and just might find that Utah has some wild SCO tribal war chant starting up. The Sco Lawyers are passing around the war pipe (filled with crack) right now thinking about how to attack the Long Knives over in New Mexico. Maybe this might turn into a US Agencies new version of Clusters Last stand!
OH THE SHAME I fell off the wagon and use sigs again!
You did notice that the chip in the THG picture says "Engineering Sample" on it, right? It's conceivable that the production Opterons will be made in Germany, right?
What he *actually* said was, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." Granted, it's debatable as to how much initiative he took in its creation, but he was in fact involved in legislation and funding that helped to shape it.
Whenever I see this twisting of words and facts perpetuated, it reminds me of the fools who just can't say nuclear (it's "noo-clee-ar", not "noo-kyoo-lar", damn it!!!).
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The CPU packaging is done in Malaysia or Singapore, the actual dies themselves are all fabbed in Dresden, Germany.
Opteron has alot of really good peripheral interface numbers, most clearly better than I2. So AMD's a bit ahead of getting data in, out, and around the machine.
Itanium is rumored to have a more scalable internal archtecture. So Intel may be further along in getting more instructions executed per second inside the CPU core.
Both are in positions to fix their shortcomings over time.
Opteron clearly does better in 32 bit land and mixed 32/64 bit lands.
"Price/Performance" benchmarks, like TCP-C, has the Opteron performance costing about half the I2. but not so fast per CPU. A 4x1.5Ghz I2 weighs in at 121,065.13 and a 4x1.8Ghz Opteron at 82,226.46.
Just as AMD says, I like Opteron for the fine compatibility mode. I usually run a instances of packaged code, like databases or web servers, on the same machine as my propriatary application(s). I can get my app to 64 bits, and wait for the packages to catch up one-by-one, as they may.
I really don't want to split various packages and components across various machines and a network.
Net-Net, Linux will run on both, just fine. Buy Opteron today, move to I2 when everything you run is 64 bit. Maybe AMD will catch up by then, or not. It just doesn't matter -- its all Linux.
Now, Windows is a risk. Microsoft could abandon either one, at any time. They've done it before. Choose wisely.
...they didn't even try running anything in 64-bit mode. I want to know how much faster 64-bit native stuff will run vs. 32-bit stuff.
When will we have 64-bit native q3a? Come on Carmack, stop fiddling with your rocket and get cracking! The benchmarking websites demand it.
Fuck Beta. Fuck Dice
well some idiot in US apparently doesn't know how to spell MALAYSIA.
On a serious note since it's based on LinuxBIOS they have a system where you can launch another Kernel without taking the system down. It is quite clever and you can optimize alternative kernels for the program you are running, incl 32 vs 64 bit.
Help fight continental drift.
When I read stories such as this, I really start to wonder what type of dumbfucks run IBM. By closing the hardware support for the 970, they've bascially prevented their chip from becoming a player in these massively parallel computing environments.
Who wants to buy 3000 IBM or Apple branded boxes when you can get 64-bit Opterons with whatever box maker you want? Doesn't that make a lot more sense to the bottom line? The most annoying part is I am sure you are bound to using IBM service contracts as part of the deal.
At The Register. Sad that all this power is being used to simulate nuclear weapons (and presumably speed up GWB's adoption of battlefield mini-nukes), rather than its proper purpose of getting more fps at UT2003.
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
I am a geek who works in a tech company. The last word I want to hear on /. is "traction". It's bad enough I have to hear it at work where people are paid to say that type of crap, but here??? Please don't subject me to that crap anymore.
The only type of traction I want to hear is about some big knobby tires kicking up the mud making my SUV's paint job unnoticable.
They are buying the cluster from Linux Networx who are a Canopy Group company Like SCO. Perhaps Linux Networks customers are immune to the SCO claim. I think it would be interesting to ask them, and Canopy who obviously support the SCO claim.
...a beowulf cluster of Los Alamos'!!
Yeah, I think this is the interesting aspect of the whole thing. My guess is Linux Networx may quickly become one of the big SCO licensees, at which point the money from the Linux gig becomes funnelled in to the anti-Linux legal fund. :-(
sigs are a waste of space
$2,306,700 and that is if they order their SCO liscenses before mid-October. I wonder whether the state of Utah won't suffer an un-accounted for nuclear accident in close vicinity to SCO's offices.
/. might have mentioned that "some mormon commitee is full of hot air and it" instead of all this "trying to sue the world"/"take over computer industry"/"overthrow GPL" crap...
SCO hq in Utah ? I didn't know that, and I'm guessing if more people had known this from the start I may have never even heard of SCO.
1 Earth is warming, 2 It's us, 3 it's royally bad, 4 we need to take action NOW
The age of WinTel ends, and the age of LinAMD begins
begging the question is using a circular argument
you should go take some English classes
take your sexist crap and fuck off
We all know that since the BigMac cardboard container says, MADE IN CHINA that the sandwich inside must have also been MADE IN CHINA. Or maybe we are more intelligent than that? No wait, you are calling the people with the only cpu in the world that can stand up to Intel, morons. You my friend need to get a fucking clue. You are nothing but a pasty dweeb who's greatest kick in life is posting crap like whatever the fuck that shit was. And you don't even KNOW THE NAMES of any techs at LNX, so don't start dropping names you don't even know you fuckin punk.
I'm sorry,
next time I'll rtfa,
I promise.
Karma: Bad due to google bombing - Robert Watkins woz 'ere.
I dont know who was asleep at the switch over in intel land but surely that guy is one job less after rejecting the idea to use the same backwards compatibility idea that made things so successful in the 16 bit to 32 bit switch all those years ago.
Now I get to watch a chip company I've supported (AMD) for years finally succeed. I just hope they stand by and keep their good prices for performance and not start to charge more for their chips if they become top dog or at least get a lot closer to knocking Intel off their high horse.
One of the very serious problem related to building
Itanium clusters is their very high power
consumption and the associated heat removal problem.
It's okay for a few server in a room, but for
cluster trying to pack boxes is a key point of the
architecture. Apparently Opteron is not too bad
since there are dual Opteron in 1U server format
design commonly available, and it was overheating
that would be known by now, but for the Itanium(2)
cluster I know off, they never managed to get the
full cluster running without bringing either the
power supply down or the air conditionning down.
Itanium 1 was notoriously power hungry and
a common source of joke about this, Itanium 2 is
certainly better in this respect, but the clock
speed has been multiplied by nearly 3, I really
doubt they could compensate the initial problem
enough to get the new high speed chip to get back
to a decent consumption.
On the other hand Opteron seems quite better
probably getting the benefit of all the power
consumption research that AMD did during the 90's
where AMD chip were at the time consuming significantly more than Intel equivalents.
Now if someone has the time to make a search :-)
for the advertized power consumption of both chip
that would be a really interesting post
Daniel
The supremacy of good over evil can be maintained only when the good guys have the biggest guns. There is no doubt in my mind that a group like al Qaeda or a whacko like Kim Jong Il would use nukes (to explode or extort) if they had them. Would your solution be to unilaterally disarm and hope that the bad guys would beneficently agree to give up their quest for power? That is pretty naive.
The 8086 was the 16 bit chip...
but it was too expensive to use
at the time...so the 8088 was a compromise.
The 80286 was the next progression
on the 8086. The main difference
between the 8086 and the 80286
is that 286 went faster.
It's spelt out in full, page 225:
(...)
(emphasis mine)
So, in other words:
- SSE is twice as fast as single-precision x87
- their initial implementation of SSE2 is actually just an implementation of the instruction set, the actual execution units are borrowed from the x87 and have the same throughput limitations
- if you are writing really large code, you might get some benefits from SSE2 because of L1 savings (but your case has to be pretty borderline for that to make a significant difference, or you have to be able to interleave a significant amount of integer code with your FP code that using SSE2 frees enough decoder bandwith).
- In the future, they might bother with spending more space for more double-precision FP units (I'd think that if they can sort out the manufacturing problems, and the HPC segment seems like the area they're selling to, then it may make sense to spend a few mm to double SSE2 performance. Depends on who actually buys Opterons once the software/OS front lines are settled)
- Today's AMD64 SSE2 performance in double-precision is not going to be leaps away from their x87 stuff (unlike the P4), but you have to remember that AMD's x87 is really good.
- Don't forget that in long mode, you have 16 128-bit registers, which may help your compiler make more out of SSE2/64 code than x87 code; some benchmarks with SSE/SSE2 enabled compilers would help clarifiy whether that's the case or not.
So in short, yeah, they claim a somewhat faster SSE, but their SSE2 is mostly a "yep we can run that code too" item rather than "yep, we can run that code too, and faster to boot".Imagine a Beowolf Cluster of these new AMD chips!
You call people naive and then refer to 'the supremacy of good over evil'.. think about it dumbass.
That's right. In several email conversations, I questioned Vint Cerf about this, and he said that Al Gore was extremely important in making DarpaNet, a research tool at a U.S. government organization, into the Internet, a public utility available to all.
DARPA is the U.S. government's violence research department. DARPA is devoted to finding more efficient ways to kill people. In the beginning of networking computers together, there was no intention of benefiting anyone.
According to Mr. Cerf, Al Gore recognized the importance of a public computer network long before other public officials knew anything about computers, and made sure the public network had funding.
Some have called Mr. Cerf, "The Father of the Internet", but, as his biography says, many people were involved. Mr. Gore was the main promoter, "father", of the public utility we now call the Internet.
Software failure: Slashdot's system posted my comment in the wrong position. Hopefully this will be posted as an answer to Jaysyn, under comment #6704329
My comment: That's right. In several email conversations, I questioned Vint Cerf about this, and he said that Al Gore was extremely important in making DarpaNet, a research tool at a U.S. government organization, into the Internet, a public utility available to all.
DARPA is the U.S. government's violence research department. DARPA is devoted to finding more efficient ways to kill people. In the beginning of networking computers together, there was no intention of benefiting anyone.
According to Mr. Cerf, Al Gore recognized the importance of a public computer network long before other public officials knew anything about computers, and made sure the public network had funding.
Some have called Mr. Cerf, "The Father of the Internet", but, as his biography says, many people were involved. Mr. Gore was the main promoter, "father", of the public utility we now call the Internet.
As a taxpayer, I demand that any spare computing power on government hardware be put to use for dedicated game server time.
It's worth the security risk.
My vote is for Halflife 2.
In Soviet Russia, Opterons cluster YOU!
I'd rather be a conservative nutjob than a liberal with no nuts and no job.
Offensive.
I think they're using Opteron processors to be more compatible with the aliens' OS.
---
Lousy rotten karmic retribution.
Simulating nuclear weapons is a heck of a lot better than finding out 'the old way'. If we're going to HAVE nukes (and there's no turning back now, I'm afraid) we may as well have the right ones for the job. I'd rather have them develop 'right-size' weapons for the post-cold war era than use giant 1970's warheads on third-world dictators. I find it foolish to demand reductions in 'collateral damage' while simultaneously demanding limits on harmless weapons simulations aimed at reducing said damage.
I'd rather have 20 very accurate, very small nukes in our arsenal than the thousands of ICBMs we have now, it would be just as effective a deterrent; getting there means money and (simulated) testing.
"Sometimes, I think Trent just needs a cup of hot chocolate and a blankie." -Tori Amos on Nine Inch Nails
See link here
This one is an IBM made one. Pretty interesting.
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
At least according to the SCO licensing FAQ. They're saying that people who bought SCO's Linux are going to have to buy an IP License as well.
--- I wish I could hear the soundtrack to my life. That way I'd know when to duck.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that the Opteron performs better than any Intel offering. According to the latest SPEC results, the Itanium2 blows past it while even some Pentium 4s beat it out. The Opteron price, meanwhile, is roughly in parity with Xeons (Opterons are not cheap; have you actually compared prices lately?).
This is apples and oranges IMO.
This post was made by I, Mojo Trolljo, for you to read that was written by I who is Mojo Trolljo!
...what happens when a beowulf cluster of SCO lawyers attacks a Linux cluster of Opertons. Film at 11.
...I'm dating his sister. And she's a cutie, too.
Just thought I'd mention that.
Fantasy time! If I worked in Los Alamos I would; 1 definately be in the lead in SET@home, and 2 My Quake FPS would be pretty good I suspect...
later.
..........FULL STOP.
Probably off-topic, but when might we start seeing IBM-branded computers with the 970 available? Before the Apple Party Line gets going, please understand that i'm not looking for a cheap box to run OS X on.
I'm more interested in a decent, low-power-using (iirc) 64-bit package for GNU/Linux and FreeBSD.
I will admit right up front that there are many people more clueful about this than me, but from what i understand, AMDs new chips (and mobo designs) are great and all, but they are continuing the legacy of "kludge on top of kludge on top of kludge" in hardware design that goes back to the 8088. I thought that Intel was trying to wipe the slate clean and start from scratch, to "clean up" the PC hardware architecture, so to speak.
I dig AMD and all, but they are sure to undermine this effort with their "64-bit Kludge" processors.
And as for performance, yes i understand that 64-bit hardware does you no benefit if you run all 32-bit apps. But the apps will come. And also, my entire post here is completely beside all the "Performance and Benchmark" debates going on between AMD, Intel and Apple's benchmark announcements. Performance-wise, my 1533Mhz Athlon is quite sufficient for all the things i do (hell, my 300hp K6-II is still 100% useable every day).
I guess i just want better engineered hardware that puts out less heat, noise and has fewer internal performance mismatches and bottlenecks.
Disclaimer: I have all AMD systems, I dislike OS X, I hate Windows, I'm not trolling and i wasn't the one that spray-painted your cat.
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AMD makes one single sale that's bigger than Intel's combined Itanic sales...
Do you have ESP?
Whenever I see this twisting of words and facts perpetuated, it reminds me of the fools who just can't say nuclear (it's "noo-clee-ar", not "noo-kyoo-lar", damn it!!!). Yeah. What about the rubes that prounce it "ZEE"? It's "ZED"! Not "ZEE"! Get over it. You guys elected a guy that pronounces Nuclear the same way Homer Simpson does. Not much you can do about it now. Besides, you've only had the guy in office for what? 2 or 3 years? We've had a Cretin in the big office for over a decade (to be replaced with another one in February).
Here's what Vint Cerf had to say on the matter as forwarded by Declan McCullaugh.
wow, you must still be pissed about 2000....
Quoting from:
Morningstar.com
Is Management on Your Side?
Friday August 15, 7:00 am ET
By Jeremy Lopez
"The best example of compensation abuses I can think of is AMD. Jerry Sanders not only earned almost $1 million last year for being chairman (which is egregious by itself), but he has also received large bonuses two out of the past three years, and $500,000 on average over the past three years for transportation costs. Last year, $183,900 of this was for car expenses. The Mercury News recently explained why: Because Sanders lives in Southern California and works in Sunnyvale (no, they're not close), he needs two cars and two drivers. Yes, this is the same AMD that has also been a perennial laggard in the chip sector."
I have a better sense as to why there was so little impact on the stock price...Should I sell my AMD? Is this Morningstar reporters analysis something worth considering or just FUD sensationalism to the end of a quick story hack?
It's not colo server, it's space on a server.
My used Dell 2450, cost $500 with
dual 667MHz CPU, 1gig RAM, 100gig RAID 5 presently
sits less than 4ms from uunet and global backbones
with aggregate 90mbps for a whopping $100/mo. And, it's 2 distinct SONET rings, has 48hour of battery backed by 10 days of diesel.
Includes 5.2*10^^12 bits/month transfer allowance!
Da Blog
seems like a perfectly reasonable comment to me...
I wish I could get drugs as strong as whatever the moderators smoke
now THIS is a troll... you stupid moderators!
An IIS server farm?
Now THAT sounds like a intelligent thing to do!
You make me laugh.
Does this mean that eBay will be flooded with stolen Opterons?
But I like peanut clusters more.
They rock.
Linux has nothing on peanut clusters
This is not about that stupid "election", it's about a lie that gets repeated over and over again. And when you call them on it w/ facts they just spew 'get over it!', as if that has any relevance toward the lie they just spewed. Either you accept a base line of fact and truth in reasoning or you're just another political sophist.
And it's a particular hang-up that people like yourself insist on carrying around to this day. Good Lord, I think most people realize that he was referencing his "legislative" lead taken in creating a publicly-available world-wide network.
Sheesh... grow a sense of humor and register already.