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USB Menorah

Fiver-rah writes "There's USB Christmas trees; lame acrylic things with LED lights that are powered by your computer. It's an amusing idea, but it doesn't really take advantage of being attached to a computer. Enter the USB Menorah. It can correctly calculate the dates of Hannukah for at least the next few thousand years (or any historical date back to 2 B.C.E.). As well as 'lighting' the candles based on when the sunsets (I set the default geography for San Francisco/Berkeley, but you can enter any latitude/longitude and (assuming you don't live too close to the arctic circle) it will be correct to within a few minutes. Furthermore, the shamas (candle you use to light the other candles) can blink out any morse-code message you want--it'll convert the words to morse code for you! And you can even put it into Kwanzaa mode! Each candle can take three different colors (Red, Green & Yellow), allowing you to do some animation. Software is a GPL command line program for Mac OS X. Basically only the USB communication stuff needs to be ported for other OS's. Delcom (the manufacturer of the USB interface chip) supplies drivers for Windows, and a few people have written Linux drivers, so it wouldn't be too hard for a motivated individual."

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  1. Saddam would love one of these by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    +5 Confusing

    1. Re:Saddam would love one of these by superyooser · · Score: 1

      He already has a menorah. In his palace.

  2. uh.. by xrn0id · · Score: 1

    nice idea, but I think the plastic look isnt to attractive.

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  3. USB toothbrush by fabio · · Score: 5, Funny

    i saw a usb powered toothbrush at some obscure japanes page, are there anything YOU cant power with usb?

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    1. Re:USB toothbrush by Savatte · · Score: 3, Funny

      how about a USB-powered UPS battery

    2. Re:USB toothbrush by alangmead · · Score: 2, Informative

      anything YOU cant power with usb

      Yes, anything needing more than 500mA of power.
    3. Re:USB toothbrush by donkeyoverlord · · Score: 1

      How about a USB powered back massager for the girlfriend...

    4. Re:USB toothbrush by Refrag · · Score: 1

      Yes, a hard drive.

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    5. Re:USB toothbrush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      She'll never have sex with you if you keep looking for machines to do your job for you.

    6. Re:USB toothbrush by broken · · Score: 3, Funny

      You mean like this one? (link NSFW)

    7. Re:USB toothbrush by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      "i saw a usb powered toothbrush at some obscure japanes page,"

      Any USB-powered Hello Kitty "personal massagers?"

    8. Re:USB toothbrush by JeffSh · · Score: 1

      not true, i have a 40 GB laptop hard drive that connects and runs over USB 2.0 in a mini portable enclosure.

    9. Re:USB toothbrush by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or 100mA for non-powered hubs.

    10. Re:USB toothbrush by djupedal · · Score: 1

      are there anything YOU cant power with usb?

      Yes, you can't power anything that needs more than the lame 5 volts USB makes available.

      Give me Firewire w/12 volts any day.

    11. Re:USB toothbrush by Captain+Nitpick · · Score: 3, Informative
      Yes, anything needing more than 500mA of power.

      Amps are for measuring current. You want watts.

      Given that USB's power is at 5V DC, that comes out to 2.5W of power.

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    12. Re:USB toothbrush by SEE · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hello Kitty? No. But the Matrix Vibe is available . . .

    13. Re:USB toothbrush by cuban321 · · Score: 1

      The computer itself!

    14. Re:USB toothbrush by Reece400 · · Score: 1

      what if you plugged it into TWO usb ports! or ever 5!! :D,,

      bwahahaha... or maybe not

      Reece,

    15. Re:USB toothbrush by Captain+Nitpick · · Score: 1
      wrong. use a wall wart. USB still makes a delightful connection for high speed, high powered devices. (better than parallel or serial)

      Which misses the point about powering things from USB entirely.

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    16. Re:USB toothbrush by Lispy · · Score: 1

      Finally a xmas present for my girlfriend.
      You saved my life.

      cu,
      Lispy

    17. Re:USB toothbrush by Sepper · · Score: 1

      There's this one but it's not USB-powered

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  4. Judging from the pictures.... by trotski · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... they need an industrial designer to make a candle stick shaped body for these suckers. A bunch of LED lights on a bread board a minorah do not make.

    Couse what do I know, I'm not Jewish.

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    1. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by Savatte · · Score: 3, Informative

      as long as all 8 candles are at the same elevation, and the Shamash (the candle you use to light the others is higher), it's all kosher.

    2. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by cliffy2000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, LEDs on a menorah could very well suffice, depending on the circumstances.
      I mean, the lighting of the candles might be awkward, but it certainly can be done. Judaism is not really so much of a methodical religion as much as it is a spiritual one.
      Of course, what do I know? I'm a very bad Jew.

    3. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by Monkelectric · · Score: 1

      My thoughts exactly. He could make his own with plastic resin (avaliable at most hobby shops). Then of course the problem would be making a Minorah mold -- which now that I think about it really is a problem :D

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    4. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by Otter · · Score: 3, Informative
      I think it's that the candles need to be in a straight line at the same elevation with the shamash out of line in any axis. But, yes, you're essentially right.

      The key word is candles, though, or preferably olive oil. LED's don't count as fire even for prohibitions against lighting fires on the sabbath or similar things and are certainly subotimal for candles.

    5. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by Dun+Malg · · Score: 1
      The key word is candles, though, or preferably olive oil. LED's don't count as fire even for prohibitions against lighting fires on the sabbath or similar things and are certainly subotimal for candles.

      Are you sure? Orthodox jews will not turn on electric lights on the sabbath, and surely you've seen the menorahs with the little light bulbs that you screw in? Why wouldn't LED's count?

      The obvious answer to "why wouldn't LEDs count" is "because light bulbs don't really count either". An electric menorah is about as true to judaism as a glow in the dark plastic virgin mary is true to catholicism.

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    6. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Judaism is not really so much of a methodical religion as much as it is a spiritual one.

      Which is of course why the Torah is full of highly detailed rituals, a vast body of law, a handful of stories (often lewd), lots of genealogies, and a minimum of spiritual guidance. Which are then followed by books of histories.

    7. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by sometwo · · Score: 1
      Judaism is not really so much of a methodical religion as much as it is a spiritual one

      Um no:
      "On a theological basis, one of the differences between Judaism (as a religion) and Christianity is that belief is extremely important in Christianity. One must BELIEVE to participate in the religion, and that's about all one need do. Moral behaviour is preferred, of course, but one who behaves immorally but than repents and comes to BELIEVE is forgiven and accepted. Christianity thus modelled itself as a religion for the world, where anyone can join by professing BELIEF.

      Belief is almost irrelevant to Judaism. Abraham is not told to BELIEVE in God, but to walk with God. What is important to Judaism is action, not belief. Doing the right things for the wrong reasons is viewed as sinful (or at best, ambiguous) in Christianity; but in Judaism, doing the right things for the wrong reasons still means you've done the right things. Thus, being Jewish is not about believing in God, but about doing the right things. "

      I got this from an article on the internet because I thought it was better said than what I had to say. Being Jewish is about DOING things: making different foods for the holidays, lighting candles, fasting on Yom Kippur, reading Torah, washing hands, building sukkot, etc.

      Why do we do these actions? Because our ancestors have done them for 3000 years and, especially now, if they are not done, they will be forgotten.
    8. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      Why do we do these actions? Because our ancestors have done them for 3000 years and, especially now, if they are not done, they will be forgotten.

      Wow, that's a terrible explanation. The only reason you do these crappy things is so that you don't forget how to do them. Is forgetting so bad? If it's so crappy, don't bother with it, and it won't be any trouble.

    9. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by Zachary+Kessin · · Score: 1

      We do these things because G-d told us to. 3300 or so years ago we were given the Torah at Saini it gave us 613 commandments of things to do and things not to do. Those that can we still can do (there are some that are not done anymore) we do.

      For christians it is important to Belive. For Jews it is important to do the mitzvot.

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    10. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1

      "We do these things because G-d told us to."

      And if G-d told you to jump off a cliff, would you do that too?

      If your spiritual beliefs are founded on a basis as weak as that cited, what the fuck is the point of EVER fighting with ANYONE about it?

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    11. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by Chacham · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The obvious answer to "why wouldn't LEDs count" is "because light bulbs don't really count either".

      According to many, it would count. However, not everyone holds of it, and traditionalists would go for oil, to match the original.

    12. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by Chacham · · Score: 2, Informative

      Orthodox jews will not turn on electric lights on the sabbath,

      Not really because of the "fire" aspect. It's actually because it completes a circuit. And such completion would constitue "Binyan", or building, of of the 39 forbidden activities.

    13. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by Zachary+Kessin · · Score: 1

      Who said my spiritual beliefs are in any way weak? I gave you a 30 second blurb on something not a long discorse. One could write a long book on Jewish belief and practice (and I can point you at many) but I didn't feel like taking up a huge debate on slashdot of the laws of Hannuka or what have you.

      However the foundation of Jewish Belief (Exodus 24:7) is when the Jewish people say "We will do and we will understand" to the presentation of the Torah at Saini. The doing is the fundimental thing. It is not enought to believe if you don't lite the mennorah for hanukka you have not observed hanukka. In order to observe the holiday of sukka you have to dwell in a sukkah and do lullav and etrog and so forth.

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    14. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by CiaranMc · · Score: 1

      Actually that's not true for all Christianity. In Catholicism man cannot be redeemed by belief alone, he has to do good works as well.

      I think you still have to believe as well, though.

    15. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by superyooser · · Score: 1
      There is not as much difference as you think.

      James 2:14-26

      Faith and Actions

      14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone claims to have faith but has no actions to prove it? Is such "faith" able to save him? 15 Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food, 16 and someone says to him, "Shalom! Keep warm and eat hearty!" without giving him what he needs, what good does it do? 17 Thus, faith by itself, unaccompanied by actions, is dead.
      18 But someone will say that you have faith and I have actions. Show me this faith of yours without the actions, and I will show you my faith by my actions! 19 You believe that "God is one." [Deut. 6:4] Good for you! The demons believe it too -- the thought makes them shudder with fear!
      20 But, foolish fellow, do you want to be shown that such "faith" apart from actions is barren? 21 Wasn't Avraham avinu declared righteous because of actions when he offered up his son Yitz'chak on the altar? 22 You see that his faith worked with his actions; by the actons the faith was made complete; 23 and the passage of the Tanakh was fulfilled which says, "Avraham had faith in God, and it was credited to his account as righteousness." [Gen. 15:6] He was even called God's friend. [Isa. 41:8, 2; 2 Chron. 20:7] 24 You see that a person is declared righteous because of actions and not because of faith alone.
      25 Likewise, wasn't Rachav the prostitute declared righteous because of actions when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by another route? 26 Indeed, just as the body without a spirit is dead, so too faith without actions is dead.

    16. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by Descartes · · Score: 1

      I don't get it. If God came to me and told me to jump of a cliff, of course I'd do it. I mean is that really a good argument?

      Have you ever had God tell you to do anything personally? No, and I'm sure you'd be damn surprised if "he" did.

      To keep this on topic: IANARabbi but I don't think there is anything in jewish tradition that says a USB powered LED menora doesn't count. Technically it should be oil lamps, I think.

    17. Re:Judging from the pictures.... by Descartes · · Score: 1

      An electric menorah is about as true to judaism as a glow in the dark plastic virgin mary is true to catholicism.

      So, it does count then.

  5. Same kind of thing by Kethinov · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This story goes well with this story.

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  6. Morse code, eh? by Hanji · · Score: 1

    Anyone got a translation of the video he's got linked? I may try if I get really bored, but if there's someone who's got experience dealing with morse, it'd prolly be a lot easier for them.

    The Message

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    1. Re:Morse code, eh? by Odin's+Raven · · Score: 4, Funny
      Anyone got a translation of the video he's got linked?

      Let's see, I believe it says:

      Help...me...

      Obi...Wan...Kenobi...

      You're...my....

      only...hope...

      ;-)

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    2. Re:Morse code, eh? by atrader42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It says "Morse-Code-Message". (Yes, I can do morse code, but I prefer to just read the page that links to that and says what the message is.)

    3. Re:Morse code, eh? by orthogonal · · Score: 2, Funny
      Let's see, I believe it says:
      Help...me...
      Obi...Wan...Kenobi...
      Actually, I believe that's:
      Help... me...
      Eleazar... ben... Yair...
    4. Re:Morse code, eh? by calyphus · · Score: 1

      .avi on a .Mac site!?!

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    5. Re:Morse code, eh? by Danovitsch · · Score: 1

      If you'd really know morse you'd have seen it doesn't say "morse-code-message" at all.
      The avi says :
      "Love you pi pi" (repeatedly)

      grtz,
      Daan

  7. Next Poll ... by lemonjus · · Score: 4, Funny

    The lamest USB gadget you can think of :

    1) USB machine gun
    2) USB umbrella
    3) USB Inflatable doll
    4) USB stapler ...
    help me out here...

    1. Re:Next Poll ... by Dasaan · · Score: 1
      3) USB Inflatable doll
      Whoa a geek's dream girl!
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    2. Re:Next Poll ... by way2trivial · · Score: 1

      I found 1, 2, and 4 mentioned on the internet. no kidding

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    3. Re:Next Poll ... by Ztream · · Score: 1

      Me too. On a site called Slashdot, just minutes ago. No kidding.

    4. Re:Next Poll ... by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

      Hmmm...wonder if anyone made it work with a IM program or IRC? Kind of makes cybersex a bit more satisfying....although weirder.

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  8. Yeah, well... by Faust7 · · Score: 5, Funny

    My FireWire Christmas tree beats the crap out of that!

    Though perhaps "FireWire" isn't such a good word to use in the context of combustible wood...

    1. Re:Yeah, well... by Spazholio · · Score: 3, Funny

      As opposed to the non-combustible variety? =)

  9. Why 2BCE? by panurge · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Why does thing go back to only 2BCE? The origins of Chanukah go back further than that, to about 2300 years ago if I remember correctly.

    I'm just curious. It's like a program to work out the day of the week on which Christmas Day fell that only went back to the time of Constantine.

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    1. Re:Why 2BCE? by sigxcpu · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The current Jewish calander is only about that old. (give or take a century).
      Before that the dates were decided apon witnesses of the new moon coming before the Sanhedrin. (the high court)
      So any exact date before that is meaningless, as there are no records for the length fo each historical month. (29 or 30 dayes - this is a moon month)

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    2. Re:Why 2BCE? by Stigmata669 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      No clue about the software limitation, but I learned a little about Chanukah from a Rabbi who visited my highschool Western Religious Cultures class.

      Apparently, there is strong evidence that the myth of the eight days was actually developed some 500-800 years after the events of Syrian oppression that began the Chanukah celebration. The Rabbi explained that the current theory (he is a Reform Jew if that makes a difference?) is that some religious celebration was not observed because the group of Jews were in hiding and that after they felt safe to come back into the open, that they celebrated over the course of 8 days rather than just one, and the tradition stuck. The Menorah was adopted as a Rabbinic invention several hundred years later, so perhaps it is intentional (or appropriately coincidental) that it only goes back to 2BCE.

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    3. Re:Why 2BCE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      about 2300 years ago if I remember correctly.

      Jeez, how old are you?

    4. Re:Why 2BCE? by sigxcpu · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We are not talking about a prehistorical time.
      There are outside confirmations that the battles against the Greek (Greek not Syrians) did in fact happen.
      About The candle lasting eight days, this is another matter.
      There is strong evidance that the religious leaders of later years moved the center of the story from the war victory to the re-opening of the Temple.
      This was done because they did not like the royal family, who were decendants of those who had led the revolt.

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    5. Re:Why 2BCE? by Stigmata669 · · Score: 1
      Right, i included that bit so everyone would take my comment in its context, no flame about it.

      As far as "_must_ discredit," i'm not so sure about that, but he made no attempt to hide his own selective appreciation of the mythos in Judiaism.

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    6. Re:Why 2BCE? by Stigmata669 · · Score: 1

      Right, that was the point of my comment. (sorry about the Greek Syrian mix up. Was it the Greeks oppressing in Syria? For some reason Syria popped into my mind) I'm not refuting the existance of the events on which the myth was based, but I am saying that the tradition of the candles and the accompanying shift in myth and moral, with all probability, only goes back to 2ish BCE.

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    7. Re:Why 2BCE? by Stigmata669 · · Score: 1

      Uhhh, no. The Rabbi did not say there was no historical basis for the holiday!! Rather, he explained that the myth of the 8 days of oil that inspired the Menorah/8 nights celebration was concieved some 600 years after the battles. The original feast/8 day celebration was to celebrate a victorious battle and a missed Jewish observance rather than an oil lamp burning for 8 nights

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    8. Re:Why 2BCE? by self+assembled+struc · · Score: 1

      actually, a lot of recent research and theological tradition has come to show that likely the celebration of hannukah was really a celebration of a decisive (yet very bloody) battle against the maccabes. it was later turned into a festival of light to help further the connection with a bloody battle, and instead connect it to a tradition of peace and friendship.

    9. Re:Why 2BCE? by MobyTurbo · · Score: 2, Informative
      The current Jewish calander is only about that old. (give or take a century).
      Rabban Hillel II, if I recall correctly; but that wouldn't explain 2BCE, Rabbi Hillel II (not to be confused with his more famous namesake and ancestor, Rabbi Hillel the Elder) was at least early in the second century CE, IIRC, after Sadducees and other sectarians interfered so much with the Sanhedrin's ability to get truthful witnesses that the calendar had to be judged automatically.
    10. Re:Why 2BCE? by MobyTurbo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Reform Judaism rejects the accuracy of Oral Torah, which is where we get (in mesechta Shabbos and Megilla Taanis) the information of the holiday, so yes it's likely that claiming that Rabbis a few hundred years later pulled Channukah out of a hat, in spite of there being a lot of *real* and credible historical evidence for the Maccabees and earlier Channukah celebrations, would be something that is part of his bias. After all, one of the cornerstones of Reform Judaism is that the Oral Torah is inaccurate, so there's a theological reason for him to discredit Channukah, the only holiday legislated solely by Rabbinic law. Just because he's a liberal theologian doesn't mean that he doesn't have any biases.

    11. Re:Why 2BCE? by TheMidget · · Score: 1
      rather than an oil lamp burning for 8 nights

      Fortunately, they didn't know about this light, or else we'd have Hannuka cermenonies lasting one century each!

    12. Re:Why 2BCE? by MobyTurbo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      you find all kinds on /. Any other Judaica geeks out there?

      To be a good Jew you have to be a Judaica geek, there's no other way to understand the 613 commandments, their derivations, and millenia of folklore and halachos (laws) other than through intense study. Now you know why there are so many Jewish scientists.

    13. Re:Why 2BCE? by werfele · · Score: 1

      You were not hallucinating about Syria. After Alexander the Great's death, his Greek empire was split into three territories, one of which became the Selucid empire. This empire was centered more or less around modern Syria, and they were occupiers the Maccabees were fighting against.

    14. Re:Why 2BCE? by MobyTurbo · · Score: 2, Informative
      There is strong evidance that the religious leaders of later years moved the center of the story from the war victory to the re-opening of the Temple.

      The war victory is celebrated with Al HaNissim added to the Shemoneh Esrai (daily prayers), and Birkas Hamazon (the blessing after a meal); you must be refering to the answer to "Mai Channukah" in Talmud Bavli, Mesechta Shabbos 21b. That does make the reason for the holiday occuring when it does and how many days it does because of the miracle - but our sages found ways to celebrate both aspects of the holiday. Even this often-quoted-as-support by some scholars passage mentions the millitary victory somewhat parenthetically "when the kingdom of the Hasmoneans became strong and overcame them."

      Of course, our Rabbis did oppose the Hasmoneans in retrospect - one answer given as to why their reign gave way to Roman domination was that the Hasmoneans when victorious gave the kingship to the hereditary priesthood (kohanim) rather than to the Davidic line.

    15. Re:Why 2BCE? by spotter · · Score: 1

      just because it wasn't in the book of macabees, doesn't mean it didn't happen. I would agree that the rabbis deffinitly did try to change the focus from a military victory to a purely spiritual realm, but not mentioning doesn't mean it doesn't exist and was purely a later invention, just that they felt it wasn't important enough to write down.

      We don't say the Illiad and the Odyssey were invented when they were written down, we accept that there was an oral tradition going back even though we have little if any evidence for it.

      When a person makes statements which they can't prove (such as "it was invented....") it shows their bias and how they are blinded by it.

    16. Re:Why 2BCE? by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 1

      I am 2003 this year, my son.

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  10. Re:Hmmm... by Some+Clown · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now I just feel silly... and slow. I must need more coffee. Or maybe a USB Menorah.

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  11. Pervasive computing by DuSTman31 · · Score: 3, Funny

    While basically gimmics, stuff like this USB powered menorah and the USB toothbrush may be looked back on historically as the dawning of the pervasive computing age..

    Next thing will be to make them interface via wireless ethernet.

    1. Re:Pervasive computing by Kippesoep · · Score: 1

      Interface these two devices specifically? I wonder, would that mean brushing your teeth only once a year with Chanukah, or having your USB toothbrush using morse code to brush your teeth. I can feel it now, my toothbrush going dash-dot-dash-dot dot-dash-dot-dot dot dot-dash dash-dot dot-dot dash-dot dash-dash-dot / dash dot dot dash dot-dot-dot-dot.

    2. Re:Pervasive computing by Kippesoep · · Score: 1

      "cleaning teeth", in case anybody was wondering...

  12. As my mother would say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oy...and for this I sent you to MIT?

  13. All I want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Is a USB FM Radio. They seem to have made them a few years ago, but there don't appear to be any widely marketed now.

    1. Re:All I want by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Informative

      I woud love one too. Maybe there is some electronics magazine with the schematics for one? If you don't mind going over the top, then there is WiNRADIO and for Linux LiNRADIO which makes use of it.

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    2. Re:All I want by madhippy · · Score: 2, Informative

      http://www.usbgadget.com/usb-misc.htm

      I got mine for 10 from www.maplin.co.uk - they don't seem to carry them anymore tho ...

    3. Re:All I want by EverStoned · · Score: 2, Funny

      I actually have one, made by D-Link. The hardware works fine, but the accompanying software is crap.

    4. Re:All I want by FreezerJam · · Score: 1

      Use this to run the D-Link USB FM radio instead

      http://flesko.cz/radiator.htm

  14. Re:Put the Mudslums in camps - nat'l alert is rais by macmaniac · · Score: 1

    ummmmmmmm.............the menorah is JEWISH, not muslim..........[offtopic]and anywho the us will not be safe until idiots like you figure out that the us is all made up of immigrants from all over the world......what would you do if they asked for the same to happen to you? [/offtopic]

  15. Planning by fiskbil · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope the people buying this tree realize that they have to keep an old computer working for a few thousand years and pass that computer to their children and so on and so forth. It would be a shame to not take advantage of its ability to calculate a thousands years into the future.

    It would be really cool though if it could masquerade as something else when it's not christmas (holidays whatever). Both me and some of my friends are usually too lazy to take away decorations after christmas and you usually end with some smartass comments during summer.

  16. lame acrylic things? by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How about lame LEDs on a circuitboard?

    Jeez, if you're gonna be making fun religious hacks, don't knock the other stuff for being lame until your stuff doesn't look like it was ripped out of something else.

    Here I was expecting some fun candle-shaped thingy...

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    You can't take the sky from me...

    1. Re:lame acrylic things? by General+Alcazar · · Score: 1
      When the Christian missionaries brought their faith to the people of northern Europe, they ran into some resistance, as the Christian faith did not mesh well with the local customs. So, being adaptable fellows, they conflated the idea of the cross as a focus for worship with the European's focus on the tree as an object of worship - making the tree and the cross one and the same symbol.

      One of the reasons that Christianity spread so far and wide, is due to this creativity on the part of those spreading the gospel.

    2. Re:lame acrylic things? by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 1
      optional LED bleeding heart of Christ for Catholic buyers.

      Around where I live ( Newtown/Glebe ), you can buy things much like this in the discount shops. Prints of the sacred heart, nativity, saints, etc, with either small LED's or fibre optic studded into them that twinkles. I thought they were fabulously tacky, but my GF won't let me put any in the house. Interestingly, these aren't a christmas special, they're there all year around, right next to the kinky batman statues.

      YLFI
      --
      One god, one market, one truth, one consumer.
  17. Re:Don't forget... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    why pay? USB devices rarely work under Linux.

  18. Up next by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    A dreidel with Bluetooth?

    1. Re:Up next by Ilan+Volow · · Score: 3, Funny


      I had wondered why the guy who won all my chocolate coins kept fiddling with his sony-ericsson phone.

      --
      Ergonomica Auctorita Illico!
  19. Menorah by mabu · · Score: 4, Funny

    Think anyone's going to pay retail for that?

  20. USB Menorah? who cares? by corbettw · · Score: 1

    I'm waiting for the USB dreidl. Now that's a fun idea!

    --
    God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
  21. And the Hebrews celebrated... by CptChipJew · · Score: 4, Funny

    for their UPS kept their menorah lit for 8 full nights after the Syrian army cut the power!

    Thus thou shalt celebrate for 8 days, lighting one LED each night.

    --
    Vonal Declosion
    1. Re:And the Hebrews celebrated... by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      No no, Syria wasn't involved. Those were Hezbollah freedom fighters.

      </SARCASM>

  22. Heil Hitler! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You already invoked the Godwin rule by uttering neo-nazi trash.

    You've got to "live and let live" when it comes to Israel. Obsession with hating the Jews will bring you to no good end.

    1. Re:Heil Hitler! by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 1

      Now if you would just use 1488 as your sig, you could almost convince a few people you're an actual Neo nazi instead of a frustrate teenager. Until they ask you what it stands for ofcourse.

  23. Unfortunately it does not fulfill the requirement by DJStealth · · Score: 3, Informative

    (For those who are interested)

    Although, most people who use this would probably know that this should not be intended to replace the actual lighting of a menorah.

    In order to fulfill the religious requirement of lighting the menorah for the 8 nights of Chanukah, you need to use either candles or olive oil (to burn). (the other requirement is that all the candles except for the one used to light the others, must be at the same height)

  24. hmm by silicon1 · · Score: 1

    I have some lights on my 'power station' that flicker and kind of move around like a candle light, don't know what these bulbs are but they could be used for the candle lights, if of course they all don't overdrive the usb power.

  25. Re:Put the Mudslums in camps - nat'l alert is rais by Stigmata669 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Well, here's my 2c on the topic. Zionism refers simply to returning to The Holy Land (tm), and has been branded as distinctly Jewish the same way anti-semitism refers to being anti-Jewish rather than against the semite race. The current government in Israel is a secular Zionist movement, and some of the first settlements in Palistine were actually Christian Zionists. In 1866 43 families American Mormons (The Church of the Messiah) moved to Palestine to make ready for the "Second Coming of Christ". There were several other Christian Zionist movements, but all of them failed in short order. Many orthadox Jews in the 20s were strongly against Zionism.

    I'm not Jewish and I don't pretend to be an expert on the subject. All of the specifics in this post come from a book i've been reading, "War Without End" by Anton La Guardia, a reporter for The Daily Telegraph in the 90s.

    --
    Yawn.
  26. Re:Hmmm... by flewp · · Score: 1

    Or maybe just some karma.

    --
    WWJD.... for a Klondike bar?
  27. "Menorah..." by BTWR · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just to be precise, the device that is used during Hannukah is not a "Menorah," but rather a "Chanukiah" [Chah-noo-kee-yah, with "Ch" pronounced gutterally]. A "menorah" is the seven-branched candelabra that was around in the ancient temple (and often used today in synagogues as decorations). A "Chanukiah" is a nine-branched candelabra that is used on Hannukah to celebrate the 8-day "hannukah miracle," where legend had it the temple candles burned for 8 days and nights with oil that should have only lasted one night (so therefore a chanukiah has 8 candles plus one candle to hold the shamash, the candle that lights the other 8). Sometimes the nine-candled version is called a "Hannukah Menorah," but just "Menorah" is technically the seven-branched one, not the one used druing the holiday.

    No, I'm not someone who goes around correcting people about this. I really don't care either way, but rather just in case anyone was interested...

    1. Re:"Menorah..." by tekiegreg · · Score: 1

      There is that story about Hannukah, the more practical one as well is that after the Temple was reclaimed from the Syrian army, the liberators of the temple (or the Maccabees (sp?)) forgot to celebrate Sukkot (a 7 day holiday in the Jewish calendar that is the months before Hannukah give or take). So they made up for the lost holiday over that time.

      Sukkot for those of you who are wondering is the 7 day holiday commemorating the wandering the Jews did in the Sinai Peninsula for 40 years. Using temporary "Sukkot" shelters for shelter.

      Anyways believe what you will, it's nice to hear about miracles more than a bunch of forgetful liberators so let's carry that story instead :-)

      --
      ...in bed
    2. Re:"Menorah..." by BTWR · · Score: 1

      I can't wait until each and every one of you is deported to Israel!!!!

      well, at least we know that this guy supports there being a state of Israel :)

    3. Re:"Menorah..." by BTWR · · Score: 1

      as far as skeptics go, I always felt the "Hannukah Miracle" was the most believable if someone doesn't believe in that sorta stuff. I mean, how many times in history has a big army been beaten by a smaller army? And the whole oil lasting a week thing, while very difficult, doesn't require a parting-the-seas or flooding-the-world level of supernatural powers.

    4. Re:"Menorah..." by Umber+Hulk · · Score: 1
      well, at least we know that this guy supports there being a state of Israel :)

      Who was it that said something like the following:

      In the 1950's everybody was saying "Jews, go to Israel.".
      Nowadays people are yelling "Jews, out of Israel".

    5. Re:"Menorah..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Well, I don't know where you got your information, but my Master's Degree in religious studies and my Jewish mother both tell me that a "Menorah" means any candle holder of any shape, size, or sort, while a Chanukiah is the specific one used for the holiday of Chanukah.

  28. im surprised by the by emoticon · · Score: 1

    ignorace...

    i would think that this would be a well recieved hack, but it seems that you guys have nothing but brainless negativity. Who cares if its just in its preliminary stages? he ordered the parts, put it together, a wrote the code in about one week. besides he already has a case designed for someone else to make.

    i hope everyone that posted something stupid\bigotous feels good about themselves.

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    -Emoticon
  29. Re:What about Ramadon by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

    Ramadan ended weeks ago. Now who's the insensitive clod?

    Heck, it conveniently ended shortly before US Thanksgiving...

  30. Re:Put the Mudslums in camps - nat'l alert is rais by DJStealth · · Score: 2, Informative

    (to start, this may be offtopic, but I am merely responding to the above question to settle this issue which seems to come up every time something Jewish or Israeli appears on Slashdot)

    There are many kinds of zionism.

    Zionism is a political point of view; Judaism is a religion which may incorporate some kinds of Zionism.

    The term Zionism comes from biblical verses referring to Jerusalem as Zion (or Tsion in Hebrew). At its core, Zionism is the belief and aspirations that the Jews should have a homeland in Israel.

    As I stated at the beginning, there are many kinds of Zionists..

    - Political Zionism - there should be state that can be used to protect Jews from violence (i.e. holocaust, etc.) and will give them a sence of normalicy

    - Cultural Zionism - Israel should be the cultural centre of the Jewish people.

    - Labour Zionism - To express the love for the land through working it (i.e. agriculture)

    - Religious Zionism - Certain Jewish laws can only be kept in Israel, as a result, in order to fulfill these laws, one must be in Israel

    - Socialist Zionism - To build Israel as a socialist state where all classes can unite and overcome anti-Semitism.

    It should be noted there are other Zionists that are not Jewish that believe that all the Jews need to return to the Holy Land in order to fulfill the messianic prophecies

    I hope this helps.

  31. Let me be the first to say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Baroch Ato ashem Alokenu Melech Haolam Asher Kideshanu Bemitzvotaz Vezivano Lehadlik Ner Shel Hanukah
    Amen!

    Baroch Ato ashem Alokenu Melech Haolam Sheasa Nisim Laavoteinu Bayamim Hahem Bazman Hazeh
    Amen!

    Latces anyone? What about Sofganiyot?

    1. Re:Let me be the first to say... by tugfoigel · · Score: 1

      Please pass the sour cream!

  32. Where's the USB Santa? by tjstork · · Score: 3, Funny


    All this religious stuff, and here Chris Kringle is getting oppressed! I want my USB RUDOLPH

    --
    This is my sig.
  33. make menuconfig by EdMcMan · · Score: 2, Funny
    Holiday Fesitivities
    ---
    USB Menorah (Y/M/N) Y

    Why not?

    1. Re:make menuconfig by Dachannien · · Score: 2, Funny

      You should probably build that one as a module. I mean, you never know when you might want to convert.

  34. Why complicate? by attackiko · · Score: 1

    Why can't you just use the computer's clock to see what date it is?

    1. Re:Why complicate? by aap · · Score: 2, Informative

      He is using the computer's clock. But that's not quite enough. This year Chanuka began on the evening of December 19. Next year it will begin on the night of December 7. Computing the phases of the moon doesn't seem to be built into my BIOS, is it in yours?

  35. Re:Fucking jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    But...wasn't jesus a Jew?

  36. Yes. by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    As opposed to the non-combustible variety?

    Ever tried to burn wet wood?

    1. Re:Yes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Sure. And succeeded. You obviously weren't using enough accelerants.

    2. Re:Yes. by double_h · · Score: 1

      Repeat the experiment with *petrified* wood and I'll be genuinely impressed.

  37. Wow by Laconian · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's the nerdiest thing I've ever heard about. Seriously. And I've used /. for almost six years.

  38. Oh jeez... by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 1

    I get the joke, I know it's funny, but my little PC gentile heart just won't let me laugh...

    --
    Freedom: "I won't!"
  39. Re:No, it does not by calyphus · · Score: 1

    Yes it does! It might be the year of your lord, that doesn't mean I have to include him/it as mine.

    --


    The potato it is uninformed.
  40. Splitting hairs by fleener · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not to split hairs or anything, but plenty of Jewish people wouldn't touch a USB menorah because they forego use of electronics on holy days. Also, no one lights menorahs during Hanukkah. They're called hannukiahs. A menorah has a completely different spiritual meaning and was kept lit in the Jerusalem temple. People like hannukiahs at home.

    1. Re:Splitting hairs by MobyTurbo · · Score: 2, Informative
      Not to split hairs or anything, but plenty of Jewish people wouldn't touch a USB menorah because they forego use of electronics on holy days.

      On Channukah, except on those days that fall on Shabbos, handling electricity, going to work, driving a car, etc, are all allowed. Although important, important enough to warrent the majority of the seven non-biblical commandments, Channukah does not have the status of a "chag" or festival, such as Pesach or Rosh Hashanna, so most activities are permitted - though many poskim forbid work by women while the menorah is lit because of Judith's key role in the victory of the Maccabees.

    2. Re:Splitting hairs by evanbro · · Score: 1

      Like the guy above me said, it only applies during Shabbat. However, if the computer was on before Shabbat started, then technically you'd be fine.

      I'm splitting hairs too, but isn't that what being Jewish is about? :)

  41. Amazing- Can't contain myself by MikeyG79 · · Score: 1

    Wow, blinking LED's.. too bad my freshman year college blinking LED projects didn't make it to /.
    The USB interface has got to be the only /.-able part of this project.

  42. My USB Christmas tree broke :( by qed123 · · Score: 1

    I got a couple of those trees for myself, and I stuck them up on my PS2 for a little holiday cheer :) Then yesterday I kicked the cable and one fell onto my concrete floor and broke in half :( A little superglue will fix it up though I think, for now it's just balanced on top and still looking good. The trees are awesome, very very pretty, shifting from color to color :) I got some for all of my family, they like them a lot.

  43. Re:No, it does not by Hrothgar+The+Great · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, actually sometimes phrases adopt a meaning which is not implied in the basic definition of the words involved due to colloquial use. Fox holes in the Vietnam War come to mind as they for instance did not ACTUALLY contain foxes.

    AD and BC are generally inoffensive to anyone unless they have a specific problem with Christians. Many of those people may not admit, even to themselves, that they hate Christians because they don't have a problem with individuals of that faith but instead associate the group as a whole with other things they dislike.

    Disclaimer before you jump on me about this: I am an atheist. I just also happen to be an individual who doesn't like to see stupid, unnecessary language changes because of extremely whiny people who like to stereotype others of particular groups.

  44. Re:Put the Mudslums in camps - nat'l alert is rais by adam613 · · Score: 1

    Many Orthodox Jews in the 20s were strongly against Zionism, because they were waiting for Israel to be given to them by God, and the vast majority of non-Orthodox Jews were against Zionism until the 40s because they were citizens of their home countries (Germany, Poland) and had no intention of leaving. It was only when Jews could no longer live in Eastern Europe (where the majority lived before WW2) that Zionism gained any sort of acceptence in mainstream Judaism.

    It's kind of like how the Palestinian Liberation Organization was only formed after Egypt realized that the Arab countries in the Middle East couldn't get rid of Israel by traditional military force.

  45. Re:Put the Mudslums in camps - nat'l alert is rais by MobyTurbo · · Score: 1
    The current government in Israel is a secular Zionist movement

    True.

    [...] and some of the first settlements in Palistine were actually Christian Zionists. In 1866 43 families [of] American Mormons
    That's pretty late considering that the first wave of modern Jewish migration to Israel were students of the Vilna Gaon in the first decade of the 19th century, also early Chassidim went there with the prominent Rebbe of Vitbesk along with a large group of other Chasidim at around the same time. They were far more than 43 families of a small fringe group; in fact they were emmissaries, including prominent leaders, of both Chasidim and Misnaggedim, the two largest Jewish groups of Eastern European Jews both then and now.
    Anton La Guardia, a reporter for The Daily Telegraph in the 90s.

    Which is a very antisemetic paper, regardless of it's other possible merits in British journalism.

  46. Kosher elevators by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting
    There are Kosher elevators. Really. Two features are required, and both operate only on the Shabbat. The elevator runs endlessly, stopping on every floor. No user interaction is allowed.

    The other required feature is that regenerative braking isn't allowed to dump power back into the power line. It has to dump it into a resistor bank, so as not to do "work" with the energy of descending riders. This is normally enabled only on the Sabbath.

    Of course, these features combine to use far more energy than normal mode, so they don't comply with the spirit of the Shabbat, not to do work. Just the letter.

    1. Re:Kosher elevators by Animats · · Score: 1
      There's a whole industry for Shabatt workarounds.

      • "Ask the Rabbi" describes the problems of the Kosher elevator.
      • Here's a Shabbat-compliant countertop water heater. Because it's an always-on heater, it's considered OK.
      • Wired has covered this. The Internet has been banned by the ultra-Orthodox leadership in Israel. They don't like TV, either. (The extreme Muslims, the extreme Christians, and the extreme Jews have rather similar positions on this.)
      • There's a certification authority for this stuff, the Institute for Science and Halacha.
    2. Re:Kosher elevators by Platinum+Dragon · · Score: 1

      The Internet has been banned by the ultra-Orthodox leadership in Israel. They don't like TV, either. (The extreme Muslims, the extreme Christians, and the extreme Jews have rather similar positions on this.)

      I'd ask what they all do for fun and enlightenment, but I don't think I want the answer.

      On another "I can't believe it's banned there!" note, I heard from a visiting Israeli last summer that WiFi and Bluetooth were banned in Israel until last September, because the 2.4 GHz range was being used by the military.

      --

      Someday, you're going to die. Get over it.
    3. Re:Kosher elevators by TheTomcat · · Score: 1

      The irony here is that you must pump the water out of the pot.

      These people are called Pharisees.

      S

  47. A bit of clarification by LittleVito · · Score: 1

    Here is a bit of clarification as to the parent. First, I'd juest like to clarify that this theory is the one adopted by most conservative and reform rabbis, and at least some Orthodox rabbbis, so critiques of the reform movement are at best off-topic here. The original Chanukkah celebration had nothing to do with 8 days of oil. In the original celebrations (i.e. the Book of Maccabees), the Jews were celebrating the holiday of Sukkot (a harvest festival), which they had been precluded from celebrating earlier because the Asssyrian Greeks occupied the temple. Sukkot was one of the three pilgrimage festivals where the entire population would travel to the temple, so the temple's occupation pretty much nixed the whole holiday. Therefore, it was observed after it's liberation, and was simultanioulsy a celebration of the victory and the Sukkot holiday. This later celebration is what we now know of as the Chanukkah holiday. The Chanukkah Candelabra is called a Chanukkiah, not a Menorah, because a Menorah is 7 branched whereas a Chanukkiah, what is used an Chanukah, is 9 branched. The 9 branches came because of the 8 days, not the other way around. Sukkot, the aforementioned holiday, was an 8 day festival. The parent post got the idea right, just a bit backwards. The 8 days came first, the myth came later. As to the myth about the oil, I don't know about it's exact origins. I believe it has some textual origins, although I don't know how vague. My guess (remember this is a guess) is that it started like many traditions, in that a Rabbi began doing it, other people liked it, so they began doing it, and everyone passed it on to their children. Eventually, it spread throughout the community. I'm fairly sure that the 2BCE has nothing to do with this, but is probably something in the technical limitations of his calculations.

  48. Re:%!@\) jews by G.+Waters · · Score: 1

    No, he was an Israelite. Modern Judaism shares lineage with the Pharasees and later exposure to the mysticism of Babylon. Most Israelites during the time of Jesus were considered "goyim" by the ruling Pharasee tribe.

  49. No karaoke mode? by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 1
    Hmmm... This sounds like a very innovative product: LEDs that were supposed to have an MTBF of 100,000 years lasted 800,000 years. That's a miracle if you ask me.

    One thing this product doesn't do though... it doesn't sing the blessings for you. It should at least have a karaoke mode.

  50. USB power? Bah! by superyooser · · Score: 1
    The U.S. military powers their menorahs with jet fuel!
    A menorah was also lit in South Korea, where U.S. military officials said a ten-foot-tall jet-fuel-powered menorah was lit late Friday afternoon, the first night of Chanukah.
  51. Rules... by DrCode · · Score: 1

    Those rules were made by people. I'd guess that originally, only olive oil was permitted, and that it took a while before candles (which were the high-tech lighting method) were allowed.

  52. Re:Put the Mudslums in camps - nat'l alert is rais by Stigmata669 · · Score: 1
    >Which is a very antisemetic paper, regardless of it's other possible merits in British journalism.

    Interesting, because the book has a rather pro-Jewish slant actually.

    --
    Yawn.
  53. What's next by BluedemonX · · Score: 1

    A USB Mohel?

    Input the parameters pertaining to the size of the infant in question and bada boom bada bing, the unguarded fan blade does its work.

    No thanks. I'll pass.

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    --- Jump!! Fire!! Bullet time!! - Lego version of the Matrix
  54. Re:Put the Mudslums in camps - nat'l alert is rais by DJStealth · · Score: 1

    With respect to Palistinian foreign aid:

    It is my understanding that the EU has given the Palistinian Authority a few billion dollars a year. Unfortunately, most of that money went to fund Arafat's palaces, terrorism, and some went to anti-Semitic text books.. i.e. (true story), in their gradeschool math textbooks, they have examples like this "if you have 10 Jews and you kill 3, how many Jews do you have left?"

    The Palistinians need to make some major changes before there is any chance for peace.