iTunes 4.5 Authentication Cracked
fooishbar writes "Yesterday, Apple released iTunes 4.5, which deliberately broke the 4.2 authentication scheme, which had been successfully reverse-engineered. However, crazney has been at it again, and within 24 hours of downloading iTunes 4.5, has broken the new scheme, and added more features to this library along the way. If you want to incorporate iTMS support in your program, give libopendaap a go!" Reader ScottGant submits this story about the Pepsi/iTunes promotion: "News.com has this story about Pepsi's iTunes promotion give-away. The promotion,
which is slated to end this Friday, was to have given away 100 million
tracks through Apple's iTunes
music site. But according to Apple on Wednesday, only about 5 million
free songs have been redeemed."
That's way less than they anticipated. Only 5 million out of 100 knocked me flat. Since iTunes serves a pretty specific market, I guess that says a lot. Especially since the tracks are free. The question on my mind: how many of those 100 million winners actually reached folks? TFA mentioned something about distribution problems.
:P), but I have to wonder.
Also, about the new authentication crack: I am curious how this will impact their deal to offer free weekly songs, I'm assuming it's some sort of deal with the record industry. Today is a fairly uninspiring Avril Lavigne track (but free! I got it anyway!
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The idea that Apple is "breaking" or "crippling" this part of iTunes is misleading. It wasn't a feature that Apple provided to begin with, and any hacks to break the DRM scheme will be thwarted by Apple eventually.
If you don't like this, you shouldn't use iTunes at all and don't buy their music because this is something they need to sell music online. Last I checked, you can just buy the CD at the store that contains no DRM at all.
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I'm hardly surprised by the results. Personally, I don't drink Pepsi usually (though it's not a religious thing, no matter what people think). But I'll drink a Sierra Mist, which is included in the contest.
So when My Lovely Wife (MLF) would go to the store, she knew to look for Sierra Mist with the label. For about the last 5 months she's looked, and every so often I'd take a peek.
Nothing. Nada. I've talked to other people in the San Diego/Southern California area. Nothing. I was on a business trip to Chicago - didn't see any out there (though maybe someone who lives there might have had more luck).
I don't know if it's that Pepsi had a lot of "warehouse" Pepsi to sell that just never got to the market, or if they only shipped it to certain areas. But whatever the reason, I have not seen one iTunes Pepsi cap - and those friends I have who have seen them in their area mention that it's not 1/3 that one, but typically more like 1/10 (though perhaps they were victims of the "Bottle Tilt Trick" in their area from ambitious music buyers).
I'd like to hear that Pepsi extends the contest for another 6 months in the hopes that the labeled bottles will eventually reach stores, but I'm not holding my breath.
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my main problem with 4.5 is that it no longer allowed sharing with other itunes running boxen on my home network - the one machine i had updated to 4.5 ( my parents imac) couldn't accesss my music on the g5. it seems like a fairly annoying thing that wouldn't be particularly hard to not break for no particular reason. while i personally think theres no reason to break apple's authentication or other security features in itunes (the current permisions are more than enough for me, and i have less than 20 pruchased tracks, and only 2 machines i play em on), its nice to know that work arounds do exist.
Don't worry - its just stigmata. Pass me a napkin and don't you dare tell my mother.
I live in NYC and have seen exactly 1 bodega with iTMS Pepsi bottles.
Maybe someone forgot to ship these things to places where people actually would use them?
I hope apple didnt invest too much time/money in this new fixed drm. Will these media pimps ever learn?
This isn't about DRM, it is about access to the music store, sharing, etc. outside of the iTunes application.
And despite the poster's assertion, there's no real reason to think the authentication scheme was intended to break compatibility; as most developers know, sometimes you need to make changes for other reasons that force a break in compatibility. If this WERE about DRM, I'd say it was likely, but I see no reason to think this separate change was deliberate. It may have been, but no one's given any reason to think it.
That's because for a "free" song you had to give them your credit card number.
No, you didn't. I got two free, no credit card required.
I've worked for marketing companies that created similar promotions for their clients. Promotions like this are created with the full knowledge that the vast majority of winning caps will be tossed. 5% is actually a pretty strong number considering the L.A. Lakers caps they had in L.A. were only redeemed at a rate of 1.2 % (You got $10 off at Foot Locker) Have you noticed that 90% of the time McDonalds announces "We're giving away a million dollars!" that you never hear about anybody winning the prize?
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So... 95 million valid codes left, where's the code generator? :-)
They must have changed this a while back. You do not need a CC to have an iTunes account. This is how they allow for Prepaid cards and gift certs now.
I know that I did not enter a CC number when creating a login for my 9 y/o daughter to download free itunes.
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I dunno what iTunes *YOU* were using, but I never had to give my credit card # and I'm on free song #9 and counting...
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Well there's that.. and I didn't see any of the special bottles until the beginning of April. Wasn't it supposed to start in the middle of february?
But to keep myself on topic.. Apple probably has a standard singup path.. They assume that if you are going to redeem a free song.. that you might buy something later.. But yes.. its lame to require a credit card when you are making a purchase of $0.00..
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I wonder what the typical redemption rate is for the Pepsi, Coke and other softdrink give aways. I know for paper coupons the redemption rate is about 2 percent. Granted alot of those coupons go straight into the trash. However, when people print coupons from the web only 20 percent are redeemed. And if someone is going to print them, you would think they would use them.
My point, is the Pepsi-iTunes rate of 5 percent unexpected?
Their new strategy seems to be fixed, and it's a strict policy of lip service. If they make sure:
- The De-Fairplay utilities don't have public development sites, and instead are forced to be these little files passed around on USENET and P2P and slashdot like they're some sort of contraband, well out of the public eye
- The way things work change just *SLIGHTLY* with every minor release of iTunes, causing all the De-Fairplay utilities to have to be updated with every minor release
Then, well. The slashdotters get to keep their de-Fairplay utilities and use them as much as they want; and from the RIAA's perspective, Apple's "doing something" about piracy, because there's no longer a publically visible way to crack Fairplay, and so they don't revoke Apple's license to sell music. Everybody wins! Except our civil liberties.
This is about authentication with the itunes music store, not removing the playfair drm protection.
.002 and .004
.m4a files which show no protection, and play fine in VLC, and itunes.
Fairplay still works without any changes. A "friend" did the following last night:
1. Using an old version of itunes on a pc, purchased a new song from the music store.
2. Launched VLC on the PC, and found it had no problem playing it. Checked c:\documents and settings\[username]\application data\drms and there was a new file: XXXXXXXX.005, in addition to the other two files that were already there. They had extensions
3. Upgraded itunes on the PC to 4.5. Bought another song. It shows fairplay v2 when you look at it's info.
4. VLC can also play this one. No new file in the drms directory was created.
5. Copied both songs.m4p and the key files from drms to the mac running the latest itunes. Put the keys in ~/.drms
6. Ran playfair (v 0.5.0) against the two songs. They decoded into
7. Just to double check, bought a third song using itunes on the mac. Ran playfair against it (still using the keys from the PC) and it decoded and plays fine.
My conclusion is that as long as you have the keys, you can still use playfair. My friend gets the keys from the PC running VLC. I don't know if other techniques may have been broken by the new itunes.
I don't have any problem with the ethics of removing the protection. I don't-- I mean, *wouldn't* use it to illegally share the music. It's just nice to have clean files in case Apple quits developing itunes for the PC, or some other unlikely scenario.
Here in beautiful Glendale CA I only bough 2 losing Pepsi bottles, and I drink a lot of diet Pepsi. The bottles didn't show up until recently and i think they were playing catch up. I waited over a month after the promo started before I finally saw a bottle for sale. This could be a factor in the lower than expected numbers.
I found a link to this on Ben&Jerry's site after reading the news.com article. Pledge to vote in the next election and you get a free iTunes download with 24-48 hours.
Get 'em while they're hot--er, or before they melt?
Ii might have something to do with the inconvenience of downloading and installing iTunes, creating an account (which includes entering a credit card number), and then finally entering the code and picking a song.
But I think more importantly, the vast majority of people simply don't know much about iTunes (or don't even know what it IS). I dug a lot of "one free song" bottle caps out of the wastebaskets in our office because people didn't have a clue what they were...however, once I showed them how to redeem them, their reaction was usually something like "I can get any song I want?!? COOL!". This leads me to believe that Apple still has a ways to go in terms of public interest and awareness of the online music store scene...which is actually an exciting opportunity for them.
That's because for a "free" song you had to give them your credit card number. I complained twice to Pepsi and Apple...never got a response. So, as far as I am concerned, they've fucked themselves on this one.
Actually, when signing up, the option was given to input a credit card number now or later. I opted for later. I have downloaded several songs with the Pepsi promotion but I still have yet to give them my credit card number. :P
I have to admit that I do like iTunes. It has a nice interface, the music store seems well designed, and I haven't run into any issues with the DRM yet. But still wouldn't mind seeing a new version of software like PlayFair that addresses iTunes 4.5.
Except you didn't have to give them a credit card to get the songs. I didn't have to put in any credit card informtaion until i actually bought a track -- after i had downloaded 18 free iTunes songs. So yes, they were actually free. You only needed to give them an email addy to create the account (or at least I did, but i used the account i'd had with apple for 2 years, so they already had my email).
Don't worry - its just stigmata. Pass me a napkin and don't you dare tell my mother.
Given the classic assumptions on "mail-in rebates" that only 10% of the people actually bother if the amount is less than $100...5% is actually amazingly high for something that has a very narrow audience given the number of people who by Pepsi (i.e., lots of people that bought winners didn't care about iTunes).
My wife and I would go out of our way to get the Pepsies with the promotion. We won quite a few times.
It wasn't a bad promotion, but many times we had to go out of our way to even find the Pepsies with the offer. They were hard to find.
"Music is everybody's possession. It's only publishers who think that people own it." - John Lennon.
For better or for worse, DRM is a battle that content providers will lose.
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Wow. That's fascinating. I never realized the Great Wall of China ended in Japan.
In the end, though, if this stays a technology arms race, Apple will lose. Why? Because most of the smart people in the world don't work for Apple. (That's also true even for Microsoft, incidentally.)
Apple will have to take another tack if they want to preserve the integrity of the iTunes DRM. What that'll be, I dunno, but I hope they don't resort to suing their customers.
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And cracking the authentication scheme is considered ... good? I love iTunes and the iTMS. If Apple pulls out of the market because it tires of people breaking their rules out of a overblown sense of entitlement, we'll all be worse off.
Some people here have their tongues so far up Apple's ass that they are even willing to defend their DRM technology, and attack those that work around it.
Shame on anyone that is defending Apple here but didn't defend the MPAA's attack on DECSS.
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oh, and playfair:
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Well, and another problem I saw was it was bitch to read the caps soemtimes. Another problem was that they only let you enter 10 a day. I guess they don't like my practice of ferreting them out of trash cans (we are a pepsi campus). I plan on getting a Xbox this way as well thanks to DewU. If I fail to get 550 points, I will get a minifridge for my desk.
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Apple's authentication scheme is probably just placed to satisfy the RIAA. Not wanting to alienate their user base, and likely their most vocal supporters, Apple is just turning a blind eye. RIAA is happy, and iTunes users are happy.
Sun Tzu on the Art of War: Attack your allies to weaken your enemy
I'm a bit confused. So what you're saying is that Steve Jobs is the Emperor of Japan?
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You mean you missed the big honking Pepsi logo right in the middle of the iTunes home page that said "Redeem your free song here"?
"Music is everybody's possession. It's only publishers who think that people own it." - John Lennon.
If a person still needs a account to login to iTMS with this bit of reverse engineered method, the Authentication hasn't been cracked!!!
Authentication cracked means that you cand take an encrypted password and retreive the plain text for and already existing account.
All this guy seems to be able to do is figure out where and how iTunes sends its login information, so he can put it in his own application.
they want a credit card for you to retrieve your free itunes aac, and since this was a promotion geared towards teens, how are they supposed to get thier free music?
.5% went thru with it.
i had a couple caps but i didnt feel like signing up. great promotion there. only
Actually, you don't. It's not a 'must fill' field, they'll probably ask for one when you buy the first song.
For the promotion, all I needed was an email address.
DRM is evil (or at least user-unfriendly), yes ... but this just means that WMA will be more used where DRM is 'needed'. To be honest, I'd prefer a DRMed iTunes song (that I can burn to CD, put on an iPod and play on several different PCs) than a WMA (more restrictions, only playable in Windows Media Player, and disgusting compression!)
OGG rules :)
Gee, you mean that big icon on the main page of the music store, consisting of a Pepsi symbol with the text "REDEEM SONG", wasn't obvious enough, Mr. Savvy? Heeeere's your sign.
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apparently a huge one, even my ex girlfriends nearblind mother found it without using speech help!
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I don't know why they bother trying to up the security. There is no way to secure media content that is compatible with mass distribution. It's the same problem they had with DVD encryption---you can't cut out the illegitimate users while not cutting out the legitimate users at the same time.
They need to work on their business model, because this piecemeal anti-cracking stuff is a joke.
ad logicam Claiming a proposition is false because it was presented as the conclusion of a fallacious argument.
Ok, you're a clever guy. We get the message.
But is your ego helping those of us who would like the RIAA to see the light and start being more open in their approach to digital music?
Read the EFF's Fair Use FAQ
What the planet of Hell do you need a workaround for? Just upgrade the other machines! iTunes is *DUM, DUM, DUMDUM* FREE (as in beer)! Is it really so hard to upgrade a free program?
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
So, as far as I am concerned, they've fucked themselves on this one.
Other people's comments aside (about the CC field as optional for a signup), why would you say they fucked themselves?
They got the PR associated with giving away $100M worth of stuff. They only had to pay out $5M (less, since this certainly doesn't cost them as much as it would cost an actual customer). And you say they fucked themselves?
More like they fucked us. At least they used lube, but still... "Distribution problems" my ass. For anyone who considers every aspect of this as anything but well thought out and perfectly coordinated, I have a bridge to sell you...
It's a great day! We found a new way to screw over the one company who actually found a way to provide what everyone said they wanted: convenient, electronic distribution of music at a fair price.
But wait, that's not really what they wanted. What they really want is stores with no cash registers and libraries of thousands of pieces of music representing the creative efforts of generations of people while valuing those libraries at zero.
Oh, and they also want to complain about greed.
Business isn't willing to pay for products, innovation and careers, so we get brands, mortgage commercials and layoffs.
Alright, so all I have to say about this is, don't make a Windows version of the hack Please !! If we all agree not to port the code to windows, then all the script kiddies will be waiting for a DRM breaker that naver comes, and they might BUY some CDS. I dunno I think that what is happening with File sharing is criminal. If I go to a US court I will just pull out the legal papers from my home Countre Canda, and try to prove that online file sharing is PERFECTLY FINE. It only got a slight drop when everybody was doing it, now with this suing shit happenting, everyone is back in the red. So what the hell is the problem? It's not illegal, it's fine, and content proveders. WE know you need money.. I will all works itself out, lets just stop the madness. Please?
Here's a thought for you who didn't find a Pepsi Bottle with a yellow cap: TRY ANOTHER STORE. Just becaue 9/10 stores in my immediate area don't sell Sobe's Love Bus Brew, ndoesn't mean I won't travel somewhere that does.
To those who couldn't find where to insert your code on iTunes. USE YOUR EYES. It was right there on the front page: "PEPSI iTUNES GIVEAWAY." With a Pepsi logo with headphones on it. Click on it, insert your code, then it says ONE FREE SONG in the upper right hand corner. Find a song, click DONWLOAD, and it downloads it free.
To those complaining about having to use a credit card: How else are you going to pay for the songs you download? Food stamps?!
And about the DRM. c'mon people. Apple has to play the game of the law and the game of the recording industry in order to sell these things. But you tell me. How many other service let you KEEP the rights to the songs you bought, allowing them to be burned with the only restriction: Can only burn the same PLAYLIST 7 times to CD....Hell, Add or subtract a song from that playlist and you have a whole new playlist ready to burn.
People...just have no sense of reason. This is the BEST legal download service available on the market. Plus, the software is free, and is THE BEST jukebox software, on ANY platform.
Even WINBLOWS users are stating that "opinion." Should be more like fact if you compare all the others.
was to have given away 100 million tracks through Apple's iTunes music site. But according to Apple on Wednesday, only about 5 million free songs have been redeemed."
So iTunes is a failure.
Let's close it up. Unplug the servers and shut down the site.
They haven't sold enough Macs either, so let's close that down too. Can't make a dime unless they're the #1 record-setting, fastest-growing business in the history of civilization.
Business isn't willing to pay for products, innovation and careers, so we get brands, mortgage commercials and layoffs.
"I don't know why they bother trying to up the security. There is no way to secure media content that is compatible with mass distribution."
It's the "a little goes a long way" paradigm. There's not a car lock that will stop a sophisticated thief who wants your car, but it stops 90% of the punters. Same with locks on doors and copy protection on computer games and gaming consoles. There are likely professional car thieves who also wonder out loud why the car manufacturers don't just give up because it's a losing battle, etc., but it's not going to happen, either.
"They need to work on their business model, because this piecemeal anti-cracking stuff is a joke."
Apple has sold 70 million songs in their first year, and the iTMS is the most wildly successful of any of the legitimate download services, by a wide margin. I think their business model suits them just fine. Remember, Slashdot readers != the general populace. The little annoyances of playing cat-and-mouse with the "all music must be free" crowd is just one part of doing business and is similar to the fraud and theft issues that many other retailers deal with.
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Itunes maybe drm but they consistently have the most generous terms and usage limits. They also are reasonably priced. They put out a good product at a fair price...and they dont charge subscriptions. They are also the only paid song program for Mac users.
Itunes is a good thing , and if you hack their songs without paying you are a thief. It is not like Kazaa where you might say there is no victim, Itunes is based on selling its product,and if Itunes fails mac users are screwed.
If there is someday an Itunes for Linux are you going to hack that until it dies too?
End of February? You were lucky -- I was working in Anaheim since January 2004, and we didn't see any yellow iTunes caps until the third week of March, which was right before the promotion ended.
I'm still getting yellow caps now; it's a good thing Apple is still letting me redeem them (at least through tomorrow), because I've already cashed in 7 or 8, and could reap a few more between now and the end of work tomorrow.
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Perhaps you don't understand: libopendaap isn't about hacking iTunes. libopendaap is about other programs "talking daap" with other programs (and specifically iTunes). It's about interoperability; interoperability is perfectly legal.
The authentication doesn't just prevent DRM-removal. It also cripples iTunes' ability to connect to non-iTunes music shares.
I have my entire music library--which, incidentally, is 100% legal and paid for--on a Linux server running daapd. iTunes 4.5 broke iTunes so I could no longer pay my legally purchased music on my Macintosh.
Fortunately, the maintainer of daapd worked out the fix about as quickly as the maintainer of libopendaap did, and I've been able to upgrade iTunes after all.
Make no mistake, Apple's screwing around does have a negative impact on their customers, even the ones who haven't infringed copyright.
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I admit that my Eastern history is not really up to snuff, but I don't remember any point in history where Japan took chunks of China long enough to both worry about defending it to the north *and* worried about improving northern defenses (much less decorating them).
I can't even figure out what major Tokugawa construction project you might be referring to. I can't find anything other than a number of castles that were built.
Apparently, one of the edicts of the Tokugawa era (not sure which Lord Tokugawa you're referring to) was that each province was required to have a castle. This resulted in a lot of castle-building, so it's hard to figure out exactly which one you're thinking of. I can't easily find any reference to a building at the end of a region.
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The target group for this just wasn't that big.
1) Most people don't care about music. They put on the radio, and will buy a "Greatest Hits" collection perhaps once every 6 months, but that's about it.
2) The number of people who can be bothered to check out the iTMS, and know how to find Apple's software, and are savvy Internet users, is a minority of a minority of a minority. Sure, if all you read are trade rags on the Internet, you'd think it was the Second Coming of the Messiah. But most people couldn't care less.
3) So you're left with a comparatively small group of hipsters and gadgeteers who love music and know about the promotional offer. Now all that has to happen is for them to bump into a bottle (not can! not cup!) of Pepsi. Odds are pretty small.
If Apple doesn't want people to hack iTunes, they need to provide a way of playing the files on operating systems other than Windows and Mac OS.
Uh, yeah. And if Ford doesn't want people to steal Explorers, they need to provide a way of distributing cars to people who don't have any.
What planet are you from?
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Places like etree have long lists of bands (over 1k listed on etree) that are cool with trading (mostly live shows). There's some great legally free music downloads out there, start checking them out.
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If you don't like this, you shouldn't use iTunes at all and don't buy their music
I won't, thanks! Oh, and if you don't like Playfair, don't use it either! Software should not be illegal. People in America should not be GOING TO PRISON FOR SPEAKING PUBLICLY about algorithms.
Some things are just absolutely wrong - don't you get that? The music business is of very little importance compared to the sickening law which Apple is invoking to protect their business interests.
I think your vision of civilization is seriously warped, and your grasp of Japanese history is terribly flawed. While Tokugawa exhibited genius in uniting Japan into a single nation under the Shogunate, the culture that evolved from his social theories trapped Japan, for centuries, into a static class-ridden state that rejected change, both social and technological innovation, and was very much the equivalent of the European Dark Ages.
The elevation of the samurai to a ruling class, and the rigid caste system that they enforced, froze Japan's cultural development and reduced what had been a vital nation into a backward and primitive country that was fragile and all but helpless when it confronted aggressive US and Western neo-colonialism in the mid-1900s.
(It remains to be seen if such model, a culture largely shaped by fear of change and innovation -- and a desperate effort to freeze a economic elite in power by oppressive laws -- will prove irresistible to the RIAA and the US Congress;-)
For the vast majority of Japanese subjects, the experience of the Shogunate -- despite the peace that it brought to their nation -- must have been excruciating terrible. You were what you were born to be, period. Social mobility disappeared. Economic development, technical development, social development, and political development were all but brought to a grinding halt. Even the damn wheel seems to have been forbidden on carriages. Women (even samurai women) were, for the first time, forced into a state of utter dependance on males.
Rule by oppressive soldiers -- soldiers, mind you, in a centuries long interregnum in which there was no war -- made for a sad, damaged, pitiful, feudal society that is only retroactively redeemed in its ruling class poetry and Bushido myths.
By the mid-19th Century, culminating in the Imperial Restoration, the social structure had become so corrupt and self-destructive that -- when it briefly confronted the West -- it collapsed into a fascist monarchist revolution that set the stage for the aggressive Japanese militarism and imperialism that roiled Asia and the world for 50 years, until the WWII surrender placed them in MacArthur's thrall.
Step cautiously when you recommend Tokugawa's social vision. The new millennium already has an overabundance of fearful powerful folk and "leaders" who dream of extending the status quo indefinitely.
_AraratYou have to install the iTunes software first:
Step 1 - go to iTunes website.
Step 2 - download iTunes software - click on the download now button.
Step 3 - install the iTunes software and then run it.
Step 4 - Access the music store from within the iTunes software by clicking "Music Store" in the top of the righthand pane.
You should now see the big Pepsi logo and the phrase "Redeem your free song here."
Download my free songs!
Oops, Step 4 should say the "Music Store" is accessed from the top of the lefthand pane. Didn't mean to confuse you.
Download my free songs!
Clicking on a "redeem song" button and entering an e-mail address was too much work for you!? Remind me never to hire you for anything ever.
I personally took advantage of the promotion - all in all got about 50+/- free songs. I don't drink all that much soda, I had a lot of help from friends/coworkers (they all know me as the lone Powerbook guy among the sea of Dell - since it was Apple's promotion, they figured I was the only person who could use the caps ;-) ).
;-)).
I think one thing that hurt the promotion was the lack of variety in sodas that could win. Pepsi, Diet Pepsi. No Caffiene Free Pepsi, Lemon Pepsi, Vanilla Pepsi, etc. No Mtn Dew (I can safely assume that the 5mil would break 10mil from the Slashdot crowd alone), no Dr Pepper, etc. I prefer Pepsi over Coke so when I was interested in a cola, it was going to be Pepsi. But I know a lot of people who generally like Pepsi products, just not Pepsi.
I'm in the DC area, we had the new bottles pretty quick after the promotion started (largely due to the lardy fatsos in Baltimore w/ a caffiene craze I bet
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You raise a good point but I think you're being a bit harsh on Apple's DRM restrictions, particularly with the understanding that Slashdot users != typical users. Apple's DRM allows sharing on three (or is it five now?) PCs. The vast majority of their customers likely do not personally own more than three PCs upon which they want to play music. Likewise, the ability to burn no more than seven (as I believe the new number is) copies of a playlist before you have to re-shuffle them -- again, the vast majority of customers don't have more than seven cars or other locations that need their own CD.
The only feature of their DRM which is likely to be an inconvenience to the typical user is the inability to convert directly to MP3 without an intermediate burn/rip. But, I certainly understand why this is the case. Apple -- like the businesses that you and I work for or even run -- are in business to make money. If making money on the back end by selling iPods is what allows them to sell songs at a buck a track, then that's fine with me -- if I want to put music on my Zen and it's too big of an inconvenience for me to burn/rip, then I'll get my tracks from an online store that offers WMAs. There are plenty of choices for consumers out there; using a cracking tool and violating license agreements is not the only way.
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A lot of people seem to be up in arms over this, so let me clear it up somewhat: when the Pepsi promo was started, there was an option in the account settings to choose "none" for your credit card. However, in the last week, that option was disabled, and new accounts now require a valid credit card to be entered in order to be created. So both sides of the argument are correct.
An interesting side note: my account had the "none" option selected, so even though that's no longer an option, my account has been unaffected! Meaning, unless Apple figures it out, I can keep my account open without entering any credit card information. I intend to do all my future purchases via iTunes Gift Certificates. ^_^
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You say not surprising like it were a bad thing for Apple to have 5 million songs downloaded - if even 1/10th of 1% of those = 5000 people - purchased additional songs it was worth the FREE publicity Apple got.
This promo wasn't a failure by ANY means:
Let's say Pepsi produced 100 million bottles with free song caps. Out of those, 70 million were sold. 50% of the buyers had computers (down to 35 million) and 50% of them had broadband (down to 17.5 million) and 50% of them were interested in digital music (now down to ~9 million).
Apple got over 1/2 of those people to use iTunes, many for the first time. Many of these people, now that they had to download the software are likely to remain apple music customers.
Then you break it down further - those who like the iTunes Store that also drink Pepsi and those that have a portable player that will play them and those that were just generally confused and thought that it was STILL stealing or thought that it was exclusively an Apple Promotion.
I KNOW older people that think ALL downloaded music must be stolen or illegal AND I know people who think iTunes ONLY works on Macs or if it has an Apple Logo and says Apple Computer it must be Apple/Mac ONLY.
I'd say; if we take ALL that into consideration they actually had a 75-90% redemption rate.
Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
iTunes for Windows 4.2 (see above).
Clicked on Redeem Song. Asked me to log on. Clicked Create Account. Page did not load. Navigated back, repeated several times. Popup comes up asking for information. Get submission errors if I try to submit without valid / complete CC info. Finally enter the info and await an email verification. Log on. Click redeem song, asks me to log on again. Log on with username and password. This time I'm allowed to enter codes. Once I find the song I want, it takes me 5 minutes to figure out that "Buy Song" is scrolled off the right side of my screen. Do a Help search to figure out how to buy the music in my cart. Realize I can't because nothing is in my cart, I'm "not logged in." Log in. Re-add song to cart. Click on Shopping Cart in left pane, click Buy Music. Enter username and password AGAIN. Confirm purchase (free).
I love iTunes, it's the best player/net radio/music file organizer/burner I have ever used, but the learning curve on the store's UI was ridiculous. Since then, I have had no problems redeeming 12 more codes.
So let me get this straight...
(1) I spend 99c downloading a song
(2) I spend the next X hours of my life writing or downloading an Apple DRM decoder
(3) I end up with a non-DRM song and a 99c credit card bill
I can see why this is easier than just performing step 1 and quitting. I mean, since I have 6 computers I need to play the song on, or I want to burn 8 of the identical CD, or I have no life.
I only came here to do two things; kick some ass, and drink some beer...looks like we're almost out of beer.
neither Apple or the MPAA has a "right" to prevent utilities to destroy their ineffective and truly unworkable "drm" systems from working
Actually, they do have that right. It was granted by the DMCA and that part of the law yet to be proven unconstitutional. It may never be, for the same reason that bans on assault rifles and public obscenity are upheld: there are other ways to protect the essence of the rights granted by the constitution while still protecting the rights and wishes of others.
In short: your rights are protected, but you don't have to be a dick about it. You can protect your home with a shotgun instead of an AK. You can say "fornicate" instead of "fuck." And you can back up your itunes sons, or re-rip the backups, as easily as you can use fairplay.
The constitution was purposefully vague, so that future generations wouldn't be tied down to loopholes in strict syntax. The rights granted by the Constitution override those imposed by legislation. And the DMCA has been tested and found unconstitutional in some respects -- Sklyarov comes to mind.
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They surely would have reached all 100 million if they had put the codes on bottles of Mt. Dew as well
I guess the bottle availablity has more to do with your local distributor than Pepsi.
I live up in the North Country in New York. I'd consider my city to be pretty darn far from a major population center, yet strangely enough we had iTunes Pepsi's available by the second week of the promotion.
Fearing diabetes in my late 20s, I have long-since switched to Diet Pepsi, so collecting caps wasn't a problem -- I've amassed 47 winning songs thus far...
Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, START
Ok, now that's just plain silly. These are FREE songs we're talking about. So they didn't have a specific tune you wanted. What was keeping you from downloading a track from someone you never heard of? (The previews are there for a reason.)
You could have discovered something new that you really liked, without any risk of wasting money. Be a little more adventurous...
Does it make you happy you're so strange?
From Coca Cola:
Aspartame by itself is heat and pH sensitive (meaning it loses its sweetness over time), the concentrated fountain syrup causes aspartame to lose its sweetness faster than it would in a finished beverage. Fountain diet drinks, therefore, are sweetened with a blend of and saccharin to assure maximum product quality.
Your comments are very astute if we assume that most people are similar to Slashdot readers. Apple has done a tremendous job of getting iTunes / iPod awareness into the mainstream -- there's a higher non-geek ratio than many people understand. Most iTMS users don't read Slashdot or other tech blogging sites, nor visit Sourceforge regularly. Most iTMS users don't have more than five PCs, or need to burn more than eight copies of a CD, or have a huge desire to dump their collection of iTunes-purchased tracks into their Kazaa share directory.
It just may be so that among your circle of friends, awareness and use of the iTunes crackers approaches 100% -- no debating that. However, among my circle of friends who use iTunes, awareness is practically zero, and when I've mentioned it to them, their responses have been more along the lines of "how retarded," rather than "ooh, just what I've been looking for." Internet or no, there's a whole different strata of users beyond the Slashdot crowd.
Sitting in my day care, the art is decopainted.
Except that it allows people to use Linux (or whatever) to access your legitimately-bought DRM-protected songs without having to break the encryption.
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iTunes on Windows is slow
I believe that it was a poor design choice on Apple's part, but iTunes performance degrades quickly in the presence of shoddy video drivers. This may have been your problem. Also, if you disable SoundCheck (or just let it finish running) performance improves dramatically. SoundCheck determines the volumes of your music files and has iTunes compensate for bad rips, etc.
iTunes on Windows is slow
FairPlay is the DRM system used on files from the iTMS. iTunes could care less what you do with any of your files that were acquired elsewhere. It will even let you stream audio across your network with almost zero setup.
Winamp 2.95 is fast, convenient, and smart.
It sure is better than the 3.x version, but it has zero library management functions. It takes no time to search for a song in my library in iTunes. If I want to hear a song, I can begin to type any part of its name or its artist's name or even the album name and the song list updates live with each keystroke. It often takes just one or two characters to bring the song you want into the window. That is the one feature that sets iTunes apart from Winamp for me. I really liked Winamp and Macamp but I hated trying to find a particular song. I had to use filesystem searches, but that's not good enough.
You might want to take a second look at iTunes after you update your video drivers. Since you want it to be light weight, turn off all of the music store and sound enhancement features (turn off SoundCheck!). Then you will have an awesome music library management program. I think that if you have a significant music library that you will appreciate the search feature so much that it will eclipse iTunes other shortcomings.
Except that it allows people to use Linux (or whatever) to access your legitimately-bought DRM-protected songs without having to break the encryption.
No, it doesn't. The streaming protocol doesn't decrypt the music first. If you're not authorized (and would thus have the decryption key), you still can't listen to the music.
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
It would seem that Pepsi did indeed screw up big time with the distribution. It's a shame the caps were only around for about a month, I would have gotten many more free songs if they didn't disappear so fast.
...just so y'all will shut up.
iTMS tries to figure out where you are located. If you are connected to the internet via a computer in the United States, and it is fairly certain of this, it doesn't require a credit card to make an account.
If it is not sure, it requires a credit card to verify that your address is in the US.
It's a licensing issue: since they can't sell to people overseas, they can't give songs away to them either.
Now, having heard this, some people overseas might get ideas about bypassing such protections. They may well work, and they are Not My Problem.
Geez, guys. With 30 seconds of thought, any of you could have figured this out. Why are there so many 'but *I* needed a credit card!' 'but *I* didn't!' posts all over the place?
-fred
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