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Linus Not The Father Of Linux, According to Report

MrIrwin writes "According to this article on Yahoo, Linus is not the real father of Linux and Open source software is really just code nicked from other sources. " Groklaw has done a dissection of the press release. It's a press release by the Alexis de Toqueville Institution, who gets funding from MSFT, as well as believes that US IT troubles are because of free software. Oh, and terrorism works better because of open source, and the "Star Wars" program was a good idea.

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  1. Someone has to say it by Drathus · · Score: 5, Funny

    "No... I am your father!"

    1. Re:Someone has to say it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Shouldn't that be...

      "Bill turns to the OS community and says: 'No... I am you father!'"

    2. Re:Someone has to say it by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 5, Funny

      Use the SOURCE, Luke!

  2. BLASPHEMY! by imidazole2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thou shalt be excommunicated from the church of *nix!

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  3. This is old news by foidulus · · Score: 1, Funny

    Everybody knows that Cowboy Neal is the real father of open source. Come on, get with the times!

  4. we all know by parpwacker · · Score: 2, Funny

    all the code originated from SCO ! we should thank darl for our OS...

  5. Finally! by mnemonic_ · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Oh, and terrorism works better because of open source, and the "Star Wars" program was a good idea."

    Finally, a man I can agree with!

  6. Linus not Father of Linux... by wviperw · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah, and Gates is not the father of the BSOD.

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    1. Re:Linus not Father of Linux... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Quote from David Bradley, inventor of the "ctrl-alt-delete" combination:

      "I may have invented it, but Bill made it famous"

  7. I was kinda drunk that night by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now it's installed on all my servers...

    I have to know!!!

    Who's my baby's daddy?!?!?!??

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  8. It's gotta be Darl by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny

    Isn't Darl McBride the true father of Linux? This is why he wants his $699. Effective immediately, Linux will be renamed to Darlsux.

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  9. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by CoffeeCrusader · · Score: 1, Funny

    hmm, probably superman disguised himself as Bill Gates and did it. Thus it is so much better than this Open Source terrorist stuff that's called Linux.

  10. In keeping with the motif here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    Mod me down and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine!

  11. RMS never told you what happened to your father by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Linux : "He told me enough! He told me UCB lost the important court cases"
    Darl Vader : "No Linux! I am your father. Search your feelings. You know this to be true"

  12. Fah. No one's gonna take... by FFFish · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...an organization named "de Toqueville" seriously. Toqueville? WTF? City of knit caps? Geddouddahere.

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  13. Obligatory Al Gore Joke by MesiahTaz · · Score: 2, Funny

    Al Gore invented Linux, duh.

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  14. Of course ... by ciupman · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... DNA tests are already on the way to contradict those pesky and false allegations... He surely must be the father

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  15. This article is dead-on... by SmoothriderSean · · Score: 2, Funny

    and I know because the version of "hello world" that's been shipping with Debian since 3.0 is virtually identicle to the one I slaved over five years ago. damn linux hippies...

  16. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by 2names · · Score: 5, Funny
    Does this mean Linus can stop paying child support?

    *ducks*

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  17. Star Wars by dorward · · Score: 2, Funny

    > the "Star Wars" program was a good idea.

    Just wait 20 years, we'll get Linux FUD Special Edition.

  18. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by kryonD · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah...based on the logic presented in that article, he is going to come to the conclusion that Linux was really the result of a gay marriage between Charles Babbage and Alan Turing.

    This is almost as funny as that "5 year study" on the Total cost of ownership of Win2K vs Linux that was released in 2001.

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  19. Do me a favor by AtariAmarok · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do us all a favor. If you happen to have candid photos of the conception, do not post them here.

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  20. then again... by Ryosen · · Score: 5, Funny

    and the "Star Wars" program was a good idea

    ...but not the "Christmas on Endor" version.

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  21. Short Summary..... by idfrsr · · Score: 5, Funny


    As far as I can tell, the true father of Linux is in fact Al Gore. He invented it shortly after his fledgling idea of a net-inter caught on and became what we know now as the internet. It was originally called Alix, but had to be renamed due to copyright issues involving a book about wonderland....

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  22. Re:Fah. No one's gonna take... by Shoten · · Score: 1, Funny

    Actually, the correct spelling would be "Tokeville," to reflect a key component of their research methodology For obvious reasons they didn't get that right either.

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  23. Everyone knows the real father of Linux by incuso · · Score: 2, Funny
    SCO!

    M.
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  24. My stock! by peawee03 · · Score: 3, Funny

    OH, so I suppose this will tank my stock in Linux. :-P

    OK, so first of all, wasn't the GNU project underway by the time Linux was written, thus making RMS much more of the "Father"?

    In addition, according to the article: "Brown suggests the invention of Unix is an integral part of the Linux story," but isn't that the point of a Unix-like OS developed for the PC?

    Oh, wait. I'm supposed to buy in to FUD tactics.

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  25. MS makes terrorism easy! by Ratso+Baggins · · Score: 1, Funny

    The only case I'm aware of terrorists using "software" as apart of their "plans" was the 911 pilots triaining on MS Flight Sim... wtf!?

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  26. Actually... by 91degrees · · Score: 1, Funny

    Lunux was created by Xerox labs. Linus toured the labs, and memorized some key lines of code. In order to obfuscate the origin, he renamed it Linux, and released it under the GPL.

  27. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by DaHat · · Score: 2, Funny

    If his name is on the birth certificate he's still stuck paying regardless of what a paternity test might say.

  28. The star wars program WAS a good idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    punk. You wanna start something? I'll zap you before your punch gets to me.

  29. I can prove Linux didn't come from Linus! by cheesedog · · Score: 5, Funny
    The basic argument is:

    1. Linus was a crazy communist college kid
    2. Linux has succeeded where billion-dollar software developments have failed

    And since Lemma 1.7 says "no communist is worth his own weight in dog excrement," it naturally follows that Linux must have originated elsewhere.

    I propose one of the following:

    • Space aliens implanted Linux into Linus as a trojan horse against humanity. After Linux becomes ubiquitous, our intergalactic "friends" will return to harvest our bodies for food.
    • Soviets stole AT&T Unix, used hybrid nordic programmers to improve it with stealth soviet cold-war technology, and unleashed it as a trojan horse against humanity. After Linux becomes ubiquitous, our Russian "friends" will return to harvest our bodies for food.
    • Artificial Intelligence experiments from MIT escaped the lab and created Linux. They then implanted Linux into Linus as a trojan horse against humanity. After Linux becomes ubiquitous, our AI "friends" will return to harvest our bodies for food.
    • Darl McBride created a pile of cotton swabs. He named them "Georgie" and claimed that Georgie was a new type of advanced television technology for watching reruns of the Smurfs. Good for him!

    I think you'll see the logic in all of this immediately.

    1. Re:I can prove Linux didn't come from Linus! by southpolesammy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Space aliens implanted Linux into Linus as a trojan horse against humanity. After Linux becomes ubiquitous, our intergalactic "friends" will return to harvest our bodies for food.

      Cthulhu will not be pleased.

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  30. NASA probably wrong. Moon may be made of cheese. by khasim · · Score: 5, Funny

    After many interviews with astronauts and rocket scientists, I have determined that the moon is probably made of cheese.

    I tell all in my soon-to-be-released book.

    Find out how NASA lied!

    Excerpts to be published on my website.

    (Note: This is not a shameless self-promotion gimmick. It's not. Really.)

  31. Re:What a farce. by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can see the fat cats at the De 'Tokerville' institute, sitting around their conference table, thick smoke overloading the air ventilation system:

    "Yeah - we can kill two birds with one stone: write a book to make more money for our 'institute'.."

    "..I thought it was a 'foundation'..."

    "Whatever..."

    "...and throw out more FUD at the OS communists!!"

    "BRILLIANT!!"

    "Dude!! Are you goin' to Bogart that?"

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  32. Re:FUD not a serious threat to Linux at this stage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Bravo, best troll ever, and +5 within 3 minutes.

    Seriously, do the fucking mods even read the posts?

  33. What everybody fears ... by DerPflanz · · Score: 3, Funny

    Enter Bill Gates

    [Darth Vader voice] Linux ... I am you father [/Darth Vader voice]

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  34. Linux's actual father by Aexia · · Score: 4, Funny

    OSAMA BIN LADEN!

    Thus, by using Linux, you're supporting the terrorists.

    Everyone please report to the near Homeland detention center for "reprogramming".

  35. Poll: What is this story? by highwindarea · · Score: 2, Funny

    * Fud
    * I can't believe it's not fud
    * Tofud (Fud for vegetarians)

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  36. Re:Linus Torvalds should sue the author by cpghost · · Score: 1, Funny

    Linus Torvalds should sue the author for libel and defamation of character

    Linus is not Darl. He has a real kernel to maintain...

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  37. Why those muckrakers! by yoshi_mon · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is almost like saying Bill Gates didn't write MS DOS! ...oh wait...

    He didn't.

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  38. Re:Strawman.. by deimtee · · Score: 4, Funny

    By the same token, SDI was not created in a vacuum..
    I thought the whole idea of SDI was for lasers to be created in a vacuum.

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  39. Linux on Jerry by smatt-man · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can see it now...
    Jerry: And now the results of the DNA testing... Linus, you are... not the fater!

    Linus: You slut! I knew it. F**k you! [throws his chair back and walks off the set]

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  40. DUH! by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hasn't anybody seen the IBM ads? Unless of course Linus gave birth to an Albino son, there is no way that Linus is the father of Linux.

  41. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by plj · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, no, it was just that Linus had really boring at school, so he hacked to the M$ network and stole this and related files from their labs, and put his name and street address under it.

    It should have become the kernel of their new, more advanced version of Windows, but as the code was leaked they decided to abandon it, blamed the leakage to its head developer and fired him - some guy called Stallman - and hired Cutler to his place.

    This was a brief history of Windows NT and Linux, and an explanaition why Windows sucks and Linux rocks today. Stallman, on the other hand, felt pissed and took the lead of certain miserable and insignificant foundation called FSF, which developed viral licenses to communistic IP-dishonoring hippies, and later on claimed himself its founder.

    By they way, I also heard recently that Linus' file in Finnish citizenship registry keeps magically getting erased at random times ever since the said registry was moved to run on .NET platform.

    But now you have to excuse me, as I'm out of crack and my hands are shaking too badly.

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  42. Looks like it's time to change my sig.. by Anonymous+Meoward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thanks for the info. Go Google..

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  43. Re:What a farce. by yo303 · · Score: 4, Funny
    Hmmm... good point. According to the article, then, the Linux programmers unscrupulously scrupulously copied Unix code.

    yo.

  44. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by JPM+NICK · · Score: 2, Funny

    They need to go to the Maury Povich show to find out who the real baby dady is!

  45. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by cowscows · · Score: 4, Funny

    some early-twenties geek with the writing level of an eleven year old.

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  46. I finally get Microsoft's and SCO's business model by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Funny

    Try to reduce the Linux community by litterally annoying their followers to death. Particularly the zealots will get issues if they have weak hearts (which most have since geeks don't exercise) while composing their forum posts. A very clever plan indeed...

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  47. Star Wars by Gax · · Score: 2, Funny

    >Linus is not the real father of Linux and Open >source software is really just code nicked from >other sources.

    Bill G: Tux, I *am* your father.
    Tux: Noooo!! (translated from Penguin)
    Bill G: Search your flippers, you know it to be true.

  48. Terrorism? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am not sure if terrorism works better because of open source, but that Nicholas Berg video appears to have been encoded in WMV format.

  49. Linus Not the Father of Linux... by theendlessnow · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's true. I saw an advanced screening of a Michael Moore film on the topic. However, you'll never see it. Disney is blocking its general release. Just fyi.

  50. How microsoft was "born" by rcamans · · Score: 2, Funny

    Come on.
    We all know microsoft was a virgin birth.
    Bow down and pray to the geek god gates!
    Take not the name of microsoft in vain!
    Worship no other gods before microsoft!

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  51. Unfortunate phrasing by kmankmankman2001 · · Score: 3, Funny

    From the Groklaw review: "I'll tell you more soon, and I hope you will help us beat off the dark side's UNIX nonsense once and for all by contributing your knowledge and skills to that project, so we can prove where all the code came from and who owned it, making future "studies" like this one impossible."

    If it's all the same, I'm with them in spirit but am going to take a pass on the call to beat off the dark side. :)

    "Luke, I am your . . . ohhhhh, that's it, that's it, a little faster, ohhhhhhh . . . ."

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  52. Alexis de Toqueville? by Zog+The+Undeniable · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now that's an even more evil-sounding name than Cardinal de Richelieu, Marquis de Sade, Tomas de Torquemada or even Ming The Merciless. So the article must be wrong.

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  53. My favorite part by Jamesjoh1337 · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you go to the adti ADTI Public Accomplishments page, (Can be found from the "mission" on the main page.) You get a return of

    Not Found
    The requested URL http:// was not found on this server.

  54. Re:Windows Vs. Linux in TCO by sharkey · · Score: 5, Funny
    Windows 2003 Server on a dual Xenon server.

    Just wait until you see it on a Neon server. It'll be a glowing review!

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  55. Re:Linus Torvalds should sue the author by Sangui5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would frankly nail the libellous sons-of-bitches to the wall, profit or no.

    I thing you meant libellous bastards.

  56. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by sharkey · · Score: 2, Funny
    . Since when did Windows 98SE stand for "Special Edition"

    That's the marketing-speak version of "Windows 98 Short-Bus Edition".

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  57. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by MrBlackBand · · Score: 2, Funny
    1. Since when did NT stand for "Network Technology" instead of "New Technology"?

    It couldn't have stood for "New Technology" since the Win2K startup screen says "Built on NT Technology". Would Microsoft really be stupid enough to make the startup screen read "Built on New Technology Technology"?

    So it obviously stands for "Not Trustworthy".

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  58. Re:What a farce. by jc42 · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is sort of like saying one architect stole a building design from another because it has four sides and a roof.

    Well, I claim that the entire article was stolen. Every word in it appears in several previously-published dictionaries. They should sue Mr Brown and the AdTI for copyright infringement.

    (One problem might be discovering just which dictionaries they plagiarized. The dictionary publishers seem to have plagiarized from each other extensively, making it difficult to discover the real source of any particular word.)

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  59. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by Fulcrum+of+Evil · · Score: 4, Funny

    Of course, what REALLY burns me is the line that says For almost thirty years, programmers have tried to build a Unix-like system and couldn't, somehow suggesting that UNIX is like the the tinfoil hat version of the pyramids of Egypt--some mysterious advanced technology that no one understands and couldn't possibly replicate.

    Apparently BSD isn't written by programmers either.

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  60. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by jc42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Alien puppet Linus swiped Linux from SCO, says balanced study.

    Linus is an alien. He is a Finnish citizen currently residing in the United States.

    (And take a look at the Finnish language. Talk about alien ... ;-)

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  61. Re:NASA probably wrong. Moon may be made of cheese by stanmann · · Score: 2, Funny

    YOU FORGOT THE LINK

    Oh, and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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  62. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by The+Original+Yama · · Score: 5, Funny

    According to The Microsoft Timeline (note: Flash animated):

    "Using the Altair 8800, Bill Gates and Paul Allen develop the first programming language, and begin an extraordinary, history-making journey."

    It looks like Bill and Paul were the proud parents of the a bouncing baby programming language, the first one ever!

  63. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by windex · · Score: 3, Funny

    It was actually called N-TEN-DO, which is why so many geeks still run windows calling it "wintendo". ;)

  64. Obligatory "Star Wars" reference by mblase · · Score: 4, Funny

    SCO: Slashdot never told you what happened to your father.
    LINUX: They told me enough! They told me you killed him!
    SCO: No, Linux. I am your father!
    LINUX: NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  65. Re:Mud Slinging by actiondan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wasn't that the mental condition were people have a compulsion to express themselves frequently and loudly with profanity?


    You're FUCK thinking of FUCK Tourettes Syndrome

    Dan.

  66. Re:Windows Vs. Linux in TCO by Moses_Gunn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dual Xenon server? Talk about Vaporware!

  67. Born in a Whore House by thales · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I was reffereing to the fact that Paul Allen and Bill Gates started Microsoft porting Basic interpreters from a "borrowed" open source base."

    Why stop at that? Where Micro-Soft's original corporate home was is very intresting. The Sundowner Motel in Albuquerque. The Sundowner was a seedy little Motel that was widely used by drug dealers and Hookers for their business.

    Microsoft was born in a Whore House! Dosen't that explain their Business ethics?

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  68. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by Pharmboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Asprin. When ever you get the urge to have sex, place one asprin between your knees and hold it there until the urge passes. Repeat as necessary.

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  69. Windows New Technology (WNT) is one letter off VMS by Randyj70999 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Windows New Technology (WNT) is one letter off VMS just
    like HAL is one letter off IBM...Interesting.

    RJ

  70. How do you get a blonde to marry you? by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Q: How do you get a blonde to marry you?
    A: Tell her she's pregnant.

    Q: What's the first question she'll ask.
    A: Is it mine?

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  71. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oral sex?

    Of course, that might fuck up your lipstick, but ain't it worth it....

    What's wrong with condoms? Get some without spermicide. Couple that with the 'rythem method.'
    Find a guy who's willing to cope and if he's not, ditch him.

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  72. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by CyanDisaster · · Score: 2, Funny

    Son, unless you want to pay for a kid, keep it in your pants.

    Now why would you want to keep a kid in your pants?

    Hope be with ye,
    Cyan

  73. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by SuperSnooper · · Score: 2, Funny

    Britney Spears as the father? That's going to take a *lot* of convincing...or a mean bit of surgery.

  74. Re:Seeing as they like history...... by Alsee · · Score: 2, Funny

    That is absolutely appaling and unbelievable, even from Microsoft.

    I'm not reffering to the claim that they invented the first programming langauage. I'm not even reffering to their attempt to take credit for the explosion of the internet, or any of the other absurd "history". That junk is almost expected.

    No, I'm reffering to the use of YELLOW TEXT on a WHITE BACKGROUND in the "Early 90's" segment. We all know Microsoft lies. We all know Microsoft violates the law as standard operating practice. Yada yada yada. But yellow text on a white background?!? That's a new low even for Microsoft. Someone needs to do some serious prison time.

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