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Cisco Reveals Its $500 Million Router
Whitecloud writes "After 4 years of development and $500 million in costs, Cisco have a new router: the CRS-1, or Carrier Routing System. Cool features include a 40 gigabit-per-second optical interface, and the ability to cluster the boxes to act as a single router. retail starts at $450,000. Video available here." Update: 05/26 13:55 GMT by T : Sorry; I missed the previous mention of this device.
Dupe
If I didn't already read about this yesterday!
Hmmm.
I wonder if they were smart enough to thoroughly check for backdoors, unchangeable passwords, and vulnerabilities before releasing it.
Another huge benefit of Cisco's new router is that you will be able to read Slashdot dupes even faster!
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
And doesn't do nearly as much as this thing does.
When can one expect for this baby to drop prices?
the ability to cluster the boxes to act as a single router
/. to cluster the dupes to act as a single thread?
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what about copy the feature on
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4. profit!!
I was working at BBN when they built the worlds first gigabit router, circa 1990. At the time, they claimed that they could route the entire internet through one of their boxes. It's amazing how far we've come.
Oh, and yes, this whole story is redundant. We did this all yesterday.
Am I part of the core demographic for Swedish Fish?
Presuming that Cisco use their own products, this is just about the first link to a video on /. that isn't going to be /.'d within 5 minutes of the article being posted.
The source code is available on the net for free!
What a strange bird is the pelican, his beak can hold more than his belly can.
First Cisco revealed its revolutionary Fibre channel switch (MDS series) which so far has a lukewarm reception, since it's so radically different. Now Cisco will reveal this million dollar router.
Is it me or is Cisco trying to jump itself back into late markets with huge marketing headliners?
What the fuck are you gonna see in the video?
<opening scene>
box
<queue the music>
box with blinkinlights
<musical creshendo>
download done box on computer screen!
<screen dissolve>
bigass Cisco logo
</closing scene>
</music fades>
call your local rep or 1-800-givemeyourfuckingbankaccount
The Video URL posted is outdated: that site is designed for the older browsers (Netscape 4.7) and older players used within Cisco.
Here's the link that points to the site that has better support for Mozilla/Firefox, Linux and Mac.
A classic breakdown in communication between the hope-they-changed-the-passwords dept. and the like-the-$6-million-man dept.
Unfortunately, I am not Wil Wheaton
Trust Your Technolust
retail starts at $450,000
I have no idea how I'm going to get my wife to go for that, but maybe the 48Gb will impress her...
Do you have ESP?
So, does it cost $500 Million, or $450 Thousand?
Is that the true price? Usually you have to include a bunch of other stuff, and consultants to set it up. I'm gonna guess a deployed unit will cost over half million, not counting your internal manpower cost. In twenty years these units might become common place, but who knows.
Watching the video, they proudly proclaim that this product will allow a service provider to do their thing for the next ten years. Yeah. Right. With the way bandwidth-for-the-consumer is going, the ISP's are going to need petabits of routing capacity in ten years, not gigabits.
Does everything include nothing?
Why do you think it's an advertisment?
If you are selling a million dollar machine, you don't get slashdot to post about it.
You find who has the authority to buy and who they listen to and schmooze them.
...that gets more embellished everytime I hear it. I think I'm gonna go mention to someone "hey, have you heard about Cisco's new 20 billion dollar router?"
FLR
Naw, I'm just noticing that there are a lot more posts about products and services on /. rather than the just the technology surrounding them as of late.
Oh wait, I don't subscribe.
+1 Smart for me
-1 Redundant for you
Well actually, assuming every one of these routers made Cisco $450K in pure profit, and given that they have spent $500M in development, they would only need to sell just over 1,100 of these things to cover costs.
Note that the post states that the routers start at $450K and also note that the router itself must cost something to make apart from the R&D costs, so the number of routers that Cisco must sell in order to make a profit is probably somewhere closer to 2,000 or 3,000. Perhaps they do not plan to make a profit initially, believing that the technology that they have now developed will lead to more optical switching products that will make them mega bucks in the future..
Don't forget that the entire worldwide demand for computers was only ever supposed to be a handful..
I'm sure that we will find something to do with multiple 40Gbps routers..
Multi-player Network video Dance Dance Revolution EXTREME deathmatch anyone?
What would people do with such a device???
Sorry if this has been mentioned but from zdnet:
CRS-1, which previously had been code-named HFR for Huge Fast Router,
Yes yes, I'm sure that while in dev the 'F' stood for 'Fast'.
I would think the RIAA/MPAA would demand that DRM be built into this device since due to its speed, contributes to piracy.
RIAA/MPAA...... The festering boil on the buttocks of America.
"I bow to no man" - Riddick
> CRS-1, which previously had been code-named HFR for Huge Fast Router,
HFR : Huge Fast Router?
BFG 9000 : Big Funky Gun 9000
transpose with whatever word you feel appropriate. I know what I'm going with.
Screw you all! I'm off to the pub
I think what the previous poster was referring to is the fact that the headline on this story is worded very poorly, to put it mildly. It would be correct to refer to this as a $500 million project, but this is NOT a $500 million router. People criticize traditional media and editors, but there are plenty of times around here when we need someone with at least BASIC professional copy editing skills.
As in Bolt, Beranek and Newman? I didn't know they were still around in 1990. Isn't that the same firm that built the first router (Honeywell516)?
...by hooking up a few homemade Intel boxes and putting Linux on them, using the same mythical Slashdot architecture that appears to apply to every other kind of computing problem discussed here?
Future Slashdot Poll: Suppose you had a router that could handle 2300 40Gbps interfaces?
I hope that Cisco didn't patent this as we all know that patents are evil. They should allow others to copy their design freely even though it costed them 500 million dollars.
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I like how they say you can cluster these things together, but looking at retail value, a cluster would be way down the road for most medium-sized businesses
Enrole? That's similar to enrolar (portugese: convolute, convolve, roll up, twist, twirl etc, or espanol: enroll, enlist, register, sign up)
I think the word you want is enroll. Or, enrolar :P
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Hehe, we use a openbsd/pf on a pentium computer and it's fine for all our routing needs ;)
But maybe I should propose one of these to my flatmate as a potential upgrade to our home-network...
After Microsoft won several court cases against Linspire/Lindash/Lin----/Lindows, I think the rapper has a case!
that no one really knows who they are. I only remembered their significance because of a book I read last summer about the origins of the internet. I was truly amazed at how brilliant those scientists and engineers were. I wish I remembered the name of the book, it was an amazing and inspiring read. I think it was "Nerds 2.0". I should have done a review of the book for /.
Microsoft will have so many extra services, Spy and DRM activities that only this sort of router will be able to handle the load. And since no current computer infrastructure could handle such demands Longhorn will have it built in so that you can participate in the new 'Make the Net Safe (for Microsoft)' campaign with your own hardware.
Officials say that this small increase in hardware requirements is a small price to pay....
ls
Do you mean Internet Protocol (default at Slashdot) or Intellectual Property (default at Groklaw)?
:-)
Either way, I didn't understand what you mean by "IP vendor"
CRS-1, that's funny...
Can't Route Shit
Why didn't they think of something better?
heh.
-- Liberalism is a mental disorder.
And home user still paying through the nose for a measly 1.5Mbps DSL, if they can even get 1.5Mbps to the home - just down the street from Cisco campus in Santa Clara.
The irony.....
Ok, so what's with treating corporate names as plural? Cisco have a new router? I've never seen this used when referencing other groups of people (i.e. countries). You never hear "Britain have nice cars". Why is this suddenly the style du jour on Slashdot?
If you're talking about the corporation as an entity, shouldn't it be treated as singular?
Seriously, could someone explain this? It's been bugging the hell out of me.
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Note that you can aggregate 64 OC-768 (40Gb/sec) circuits onto a single fiber strand with Lucen'ts LambdaXtreme Transport.
What this means is that the next generation of fiber routing and switching gear is available and ready for deployment. Existing fiber networks will continue to increase in value while redundant dark fiber will retain its zero-dollar value status.
Am I the only one who saw Cisco Reveals Its $500 Million Router and thought of "The Six Million Dollar Man"?
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will they be able to sell 1112 of these babies ?
Exercise caution when modding this message up: the author acts like a jerk when his karma is excellent.
Yes, Cisco needs money in order to keep coding insecure TCP/IP stacks and patent things invented by other people.
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Slashdot have strange editors.
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Or does it stand for "Can't Route Stuff"? Or ....
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Does this mean that Slashcode is building the display on the fly, and since the signature was updated the new version is showing?
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Yes, your sig is appended every time from your current sig. Probably just to save a bit of space, I would guess.
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"CRS-1, which previously had been code-named HFR for Huge Fast Router, also is the first core router to offer 40 gigabit-per-second optical interfaces."
Am I the only one who can see the engineers picking a different word for the F in HFR? I assume it used to stand for Huge Fucking Router before the PR guys got their hands on it.
Fair enough
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!
I mod down pyramid schemes in sigs.
They need to sell more than a thousand of these just to recoup the gross development revenue, more realistically 3 times that to make a profit. Is there really such a demand for a product of this size and price?
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The latest incarnation of IOS is actually a Cisco custom version of QNX. To the best of my knowledge Cisco is still the only organization on the planet with a source code license to QNX.
Who says a microkernel lacks performance, hmm? QNX can do a full process-to-process context switch in under 250 nanoseconds on a 2Ghz Pentium, less for thread switches.
A link to an interesting post from yesterday.
You use QNX everyday without knowing it. QNX is used in the front-end networks of both Visa and Mastercard, it's used in nuclear reactor control systems, chip manufacturing, FDA approved medical equipment, and high-speed postal sorting systems.
Not to mention... eight tightly coordinated QNX controlled robots stretch the aluminum onto the F-16's wings...
Don't forget about the Cisco SmartNet contracts. Sometimes those cost just as much as the equipment does.
-Nick
"A plan fiendishly clever in its intricacies"- Homer Simpson
CRS is going to make you jump, jump..
Slashdot - the only place where geeks will flock to watch video of a router.
Must-not-watch TV!
Whitecloud writes "After 4 years of development and $500 million in costs, Cisco have a new router: the CRS-1, or Carrier Routing System. Cool features include a 40 gigabit-per-second optical interface, and the ability to cluster the boxes to act as a single router. retail starts at $450,000. Video available here." WTF would you possibly need video of this for? A still picture should suffice. Video of what? A shiny box? Who cares about what the 450K box looks like, why would you possibly need video of it, to show a couple of red lights blinking as it 'routes'? It's not like they're going to show video of a router 'in action'.
You can bet you @$$ that this router has the built-in natural ability to target and siphon off copies of *any* desired data streams to send to your favorite three-letter-acronym US federal law enforecement agencies. And these routers will be the ones sitting at all the Internet backbone peering interchanges in every major city within a year.
from the like-the-$6-million-man dept.
More like-the-$6-million-MAN
It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men. -Frederick Douglass
(see subject)
Probably as significant as the new hardware is the new OS. Cisco has changed from the IOS based monolith to using a modular QNX based solution.
That's the funniest thing I've ever read, you bonehead moderators.