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Mass Migration/Bughunt For Thunderbird Tuesday
maggeth writes "mozillaZine is spreading the word of a plan to have a mass migration of users from other email clients on this coming Tuesday in order to find any remaining bugs in the migration process. 'Bring your Outlook, Eudora, Mozilla, Outlook Express, and Communicator e-mail clients with you and join us on IRC for a day of testing the Thunderbird migration features. The goal is to get as many testing migrations performed on as many clients and as many operating systems as possible and to discuss and record all the problems in Bugzilla.' Read the full article for more details and for the IRC location."
It was probably a old version of mozilla but I lost every single email and the addressbook, should still be there and the person involved is more of a write it down on a bit of paper than use the PC's addressbook feature anyway :)
to import folders with a '/' in the name.
To lazy to jump through the hoops of bugzilla.
Sort of like Bug-Stock. A day-long festival of software, testing, and resolution.
Sort of like Woodstock, except without all the kick-ass music, sex, drugs and alcohol. Hmm...never mind.
Continual thought process in Doom3: "Where is the bad-guy going to pop up next? bullets be damned, I'm running out of clean shorts!"
If you plan to participate in this. Please remember to back up your email in case something goes wrong.
I use PINE now with folders in IMAP in local. Any suggestions on migration from the UNIX MBOX format?
I've been hunting for a win32 email client that doesn't suck a bag of cocks. Anyone got any suggestions? I'd appreciate it a lot.
There you go.
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
Now i could be able to migrate from my webmail client Firefox to Thunderbird!
Thunderbird 0.7
It runs on win32 and doesn't suck a bag of cocks.
So I should switch from a fully functional, secure, fast, and stable email client (Outlook) to some pile of shit just because you are having a special day for it?
.exe attachment? Thank you.
While we test our pile of shit, could you please ask the maker of your fully functional secure fast and stable email client to disable the feature that sends me spam each time some script kiddy mails you an
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
This is truly a great idea, and a great way to get people involved.
If I hadn't switched to gmail I'd plan on participating.
Amazing magic tricks
I tried Thunderbird, but as a newsreader it sucked. Didn't handle multipart messages very well at all and had no support for YEncode (I don't care that it's not an official standard--it's a defacto standard which is extremely widely used and that's what counts). Without YEnc support, it's basically useless to me as a newsreader. It was also just too damned slow.
I love Firefox, though! Great browser. Small, fast, etc., etc. Thunderbird just needs some more work before it's really there, IMO.
Well, I have certainly had problems with the import facility in both Mozilla Mail and Thunderbird. I put up with the problems because I love the applications but at times they are a nuisance.
Importing csv or tab delimited files always seems very confusing compared to trying it in Outlook Express - I had to use OE recently as an intermediate step between getting email addresses from OS X to Thunderbird. (Importing directly from OS X would be really useful too.)
As an aside, if dragging and dropping addresses from addr. book onto Thunderbird's Send-To section, it works great except that dropping addresses onto a BCC field subsequently changes the 'next entry' field back to "To:" which is a nuisance.
Also, the scroll wheel seems to corrupt a long list of addresses entered in the 'Send-To' section.
I hope this is of some use to a developer somewhere!
Thanks.
Karma? Sorry, i don't believe in superstition. http://talk.thinkingmatters.org.nz
Rumor is that Thunderbird and Firefox are hidden away somewhere on the soon to be released version of TheOpenCD. This special edition (1.4.1) will be handed out to an unsuspecting public at 17 different locations around the world (and counting) on Software Freedom Day, August 28th along with a custom version of Knoppix. About 10.000 copies are being produced. The new edition might even be out by Tuesday ...
"I've been hunting for a win32 email client that doesn't suck a bag of cocks."
Whoah.. I didn't know Outlook could fit an entire bag of chickens in its mouth. How do I demo this?
"Derp de derp."
First of all, if you haven't switched to Thunderbird yet, you are missing out!
I've never had a problem with Thunderbird!
Thunderbird saved me from having to change my email address, i was getting rediculous amounts of spam, but then i switched to thunderbird, and in less than a month i went from more than 125 spams a day to Zero.
Thanks Mozilla!
Thanks!
Thunderbird is the BEST there is!
I wrote an article about controlling spam using thunderbird on my website
http://kb1ghc.home.comcast.net/spam.htm
I recommend it to EVERYONE!
..we held a bug finding party and no one found any. Should you be upset or not?
Well, it has never been successfully tested.
Thunderbolt Thursday! Yeah!
It happens every Thursday in the summer.
Yup. Good times!
"While we test our pile of shit, could you please ask the maker of your fully functional secure fast and stable email client to disable the feature that sends me spam each time some script kiddy mails you an .exe attachment? Thank you."
.EXE.
;))
Sorry to suck the fun out of your witty comment here, but please don't confuse Outlook for Outlook Express. OL still has the occasional exploit, but it is nowhere near as bad as OLE. In all seriousness, with OLXP (released in 02 I think) you have to hack the registry to even get it to download an
(For the record, I did have a chuckle at this comment.
"Derp de derp."
All recent versions of Outlook Express 6 and Outlook 2000 (with SR1), Outlook XP, and Outlook 2003 do not allow exe/scr/com/url/lnk etc extension attachments to be viewed.
Only very old versions (like Outlook Express 5.5 or Outlook 98 or Outlook 2000 without SR1) still allow people to access executable attachments.
It's a bug hunt man, a bug hunt!
And while I'm happy with it, the migration was impossible. Folders got corrupted and accounts got erased. Eventually, I just downloaded Eudora, imprted all my accounts and mail there, and then sent them to Thunderbird.
http://www.caretoicedance.com
If you prefer something ultra-light, there are some good ones at TinyApps.org too.
It just blew my mind that Thunderbird has no option for importing a Netscape 4.x address book. WTF? I had to download Netscape 7 to convert the addressbook to LDIF and then import it into Thunderbird. Now that's just not right.
That still sucks big fat RMS balls.
Selecting auto-select leads it to display the full headers and all text displays as garbage.
Somewhere at a car company...
Engineer 1 - "Hey, our new car may burst into flames if people try to drive it."
Engineer 2 - "I know... let's get as many people to drive it as possible so we can see what the problem is!"
Does it make you happy you're so strange?
IRC? ... Why don't they just communicate the testing results through email instead.
I'm actually interested in reading the same e-mails on my dual-boot machine (windows + linux). It's very time consuming to have to switch to linux to find some important e-mail, because you have it in your linux e-mail client.
As mozilla is a cross platform application, it should be able to work with the same offline e-mails.. lets say stored in a fat32 partition, so we could write to it from linux as from windows.
Any suggestions how to do this?
First I wanted to be a chef. Then I wanted to be Napoleon. My ambitions have continued to grow ever since.
Get it here and PGP/GPG all your messages, at the very least start signing them.
Doesn't suck a bag of cocks by default, ban can be extended to...
I recently upgraded my computer from 98 to 2000 on another hard drive. Took me forever to figure out how to get my old email into Thunderbird on the new hard drive. Shouldn't this be just slightly easier?
Make me a friend and I'll mod you up
If only it could sync with Palm and/or PocketPC. I could get a lot more people to switch to it.
When you migrate Mozilla Mail users to Thunderbird.
When the hell will thunder bird actually start using this? That's my only problem with it. The only time I use it is when i'm on my power book. I use pine elsewhere.
-maz
<happiness>beer</happiness>
Thanks for all the suggestions, I'm looking through those sites now.
I wonder why my original post was modded flamebait; it was a genuine problem/question.
Free Software: Like love, it grows best when given away.
How the hell is this "Offtopic"?
It's as on-topic as it gets. It may be redundant, even overrated, but not off-topic.
I use Thunderbird .7 and it's really slow and uses like 120mb of RAM. I figured it's just because I have 10,000 emails in one folder, but I like being able to search everything in the same folder. Is there a better way?
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I posted the question in the forums but no one has answered it
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=660
Mozilla and Thunderbird, and Netscape Communicator before that, all use the mbox mail format. What this means is that importing mail stored as mbox should be decently easy on all three of those. You might have to do some steps manually, but it'll work.
:)
However, I'm pretty sure they're wanting to test out the automated importers, which is all a consumer wants to use anyway
As always, remember to backup your emails before beta testing like this.
"Is this going to be a stand up fight or a bughunt?"
why do you think it takes so long to load?
Today's example comes from /. regular Kenshin with the mighty, mighty low ID of 43036! Here he tries to compare a volunteer software bug hunt with yet another deeply flawed automotive analogy. So let's get started and bring in some contestants from our studio audience to play....
FIND! THE! FALLACY!!!! <cue to commercial>
I don't want knowledge. I want certainty. - Law, David Bowie
Talk about preaching to the converted! And how is this going to work???
Geek - "Get rid of crappy Outlook. Come join us in a mass migration to Thunderbird!"
Marketing Droid - "Err, OK, what do I do?"
Geek - "Just join us on IRC channel #mozmigration on smug.geek.com"
Marketing Droid - "Err, yeah, right"
Talk about Oxymoronic. Of course, I can't RTFA coz it's slashdotted, so ignore the above if I'm missing something.
cLive ;-)
-- Trinity in high heels carrying a whip: The donimatrix - there is no spoonerism
Err....what? It can't import vCards from files? Ah. Migration over then for this season.
Bugzilla link here (they don't accept Slashdot as a referrer:
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79709
And yes, that's me at the bottom of the report offering to help out if someone will talk me through the build process on OS X - I get nothing but errors trying to build Thunderbird.
Cheers,
Ian
I've been hunting for a win32 email client that doesn't suck a bag of cocks. Anyone got any suggestions? I'd appreciate it a lot.
I've tried Thunderbird and others, but am still staying with Eudora for now.
A few months ago, I started to write some sort of review/blog, pointing out some aspects of the mailers I tried. Never finished it really, but in case you find it useful: here it is
One word: searching. Searching in Outlook is so slow that it is completely useless if you have more than a few dozen emails and folders.
It's not 10 times slower than Eudora or Thunderbird, it's orders of magnitudes slower.
Warning: Please save any important work with mozilla that you might have been working - The site may crash your browser.
No Sig for you.!
I'd migrate to Thunderbird in a second and take a lot of colleagues with me if only it would finally not crash when trying to import nontrivial amounts of email from Outlook (not Outlook Express). Thunderbird is fine up to a few thousand messages, but anyting larger gets you a never ending onslaught of error messages.
Wouldn't a weekend be better? More people not wasting time at work? Oh RIGHT we're geeks, we don't DO work. hah forgot. Sorry lost my mind for a second there.
Just finished moving my mom to Thunderbird... from Mozilla mail. Some of the folders came from Kmail (standard unix mailbox format imported into Kmail from Outlook, it's a long story), and I used a CD to move them, meaning they had the read-only bit set without me realizing it (I forgot, sue me). Still, for reasons I cannot fathom, Mozilla Mail stopped displaying mail in about half the folders, even after clearing the read-only bit. The messages where there (I could see them in Thunderbird), they just didn't show up in Mozilla. I got everything working under Thunderbird, and tried copying over the Mail folder, no dice. Heck, on one of the folders I can see one message and nothing else. It's a real mess. At the momemt I've got her mail shortcut launching Thunderbird instead of Mozilla mail, but it really bugs me, since don't know if the mail is gonna stop working.
Hi! I make Firefox Plug-ins. Check 'em out @ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-mp3-podcaster/
what about us old os/2 guys? how do i convert my funky format pmmail folders to thunderbird? I can't be the only person still running PMMail (abeit under xp now).
....
still out in the cold
najay
One word: Lookout
Brian J. Mitchell
reflections of my imagination
Importing with newer Netscape (and probably Mozilla) email clients involves manually copying files from one folder to another. It seems ridiculous.
All I can say is keep trying, Thunderbird truly is the bees knees as far as I'm concerned. Try updating whichever client you're using now to the latest version before doing an export/import.
Another thing that's worked for me in previous migrations (I've tried most of the big mail clients in my day) is to, for example, go from OE to Mozilla then to Thunderbird. Or whatever route works for you.
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
New version means a new download, new uninstall and new install. I wish that Mozilla could check for updates and download just the applicable files.
Get a free ipod.
AFAIK there is no way to sort news items by date in descending order AND group by thread. If you click the "message threads" column heading, the threads are sorted by date in ascending order. If you then click the "date" column heading, the messages are sorted by date in descending order but threading is lost. Not a bug but very annoying :(
"Im skiing in France! Im flying a boat! Im turning tricks in Chad! Cheese dreams! Im off my ever loving tits!"
...gmail? I have no inclination of going back to the standard email clients. Come to think of it, neither do many of my friends. Every few days, I see the special message "Invite 3 friends to Gmail" and I do. For some reason, people are selling these things on eBay...for something in the range of $1-$5.[1] Selling three licenses for $15 + all of the hassles doesn't seem worth getting someone you know connected.
[1] That's a big tip for those yearning for a gmail account and don't want to wait until everyone else is on. Gmail seems to have taken the place of when I called the Internet "The world's biggest secret club." sometime in the late 80s/early 90s. But for a couple of bucks, I have several friends who aren't waiting for me to receive new invitations and have just hit the auctions. From what they have told me, impatience was getting to them. No shipping involved. Quick payment and an email invitation from the seller.
As I write this, there are 653 gmail auctions underway. It looks like people have gotten bored selling one-offs so they're creating vanity ids & selling those; e.g., "BillAndHillaryClinton@gmail.com".
n.b. I have nothing to gain from all of this, I'm just handing out information.
That's Thunderbird, not Outlook.
Well if you already have Office 2k3 then Outlook is the best win32 client. None of the old virus problems, adequate spam-filtering, nice new design, and zero learning for most people since it is what most of us use at work.
Ok - now all the anti-Microsoft people who have never used Outlook 2k3 can bash me.
..are better off. Those who are using both firefox and thunderbird could probably be better off using mozilla seamonkey suit. Reasons being,
1. less memory usage. I have seen repeatedly mozilla seamonkey takes upto 6.2% of my 1GB ram, when mail, navigator and calendar are open. While I have seen firefox taking upto 6% by itself and thunderbird taking upto 4.2% by itself. These are after-a-while usage reports. I guess it's because of loading Gecko run time twice.
2. With seamonkey you get automatic mailto handling in navigator and http link handling in email client.
But, I understand it's easier to sell new names to new users than sell old name to new users.
Also, there are those who use either mozilla mail client or the mozilla browser.
Then there are others who argue that if thunderbird crashes their firefox instance won't crash and vice versa. This can happen with one single instance running. But, I guess we have come a long way from crashing mozilla. Atleast with mozilla 1.7 it's not a concern.
Until there are options to turn off this text markup and show me the email as it was received in plain ascii, it isn't worth my time. (And no, clicking "view as source" every time doesn't count.)
Pity, because otherwise it seems like a great email client. However it dropped the ball on the important "show the email" function and went straight to the bells and whistles that some of us don't want...
Please, please, pretty-please add a simple one-click way to killfile someone on usenet. That is the one and only feature that I miss from the Outlook Express usenet reader. I have yet to figure out a simple way to filter out all posts from an individual on usenet.
Other than that, Thunderbird beats Outlook Express for usenet hands down! Thanks guys!!
Notice anything on there? Like the fact that they were bought out by MS to develop their Google-killer?
I'm half serious on this, actually. At some point I went all "eye candy" and I do most of my work with pretty GUIs and such. And I still have to open pine in a terminal window and it looks weird.
I am a big fan of Mozilla Firebird, and I am starting to play with Thunderbird. HOWEVER, what makes me hesitate using Thunderbird is that once you go to Thunderbird and if you don't like it you can't go back to your old program. Why? Because there is no export ability of your messages and address book, nor do any other major programs import these two items from Thunderbird. Please correct me if I am wrong as I would love to give Thunderbird a serious try.
Have you tried looking inside the Mail folder for the ".msf" file with the name of the affected mailbox (Example: the 'Inbox' folder has a mailbox file named Inbox and another file named 'Inbox.msf') then temporarily moving it out and restarting Mozilla Mail to see if it finally sees the message(s) ?
I migrated to from Outlook Express to Thunderbird about two months ago.
This was just after I migrated from MS IE to Firefox 0.9. The motive was the serious security issues with Microsoft products. I also installed OpenOffice.org 1.1.1 to run all FOSS applications.
Thunderbird did a fine job migrating. Of course, I started by backing up my mail folders to the home server. Thunderbird imported all my old mail without a problem, except that it fudged a "From " header for every message, with funny dates, such as the year 1969, ...etc.
It also migrated my account settings correctly and my address book. I was not concerned about the address book that much, since I back it up to Yahoo Address book anyway, and can retrieve it from there.
Now my email is in mbox format, and I back it up to the server where I can grep in it to find stuff (although it has CR/LF format, and not just NL). My email is not hostage to Microsoft format anymore.
Thunderbird functionality is OK, but my gripe is that it is bloated. Granted, my machine is a PII-300 128MB (I know, I know!), but still, I do not run Thunderbird all the time. Just when I need to check email, and when mutt on the server is not sufficient, and to periodically retrieve my POP mail and back it up.
2bits.com, Inc: Drupal, WordPress, and LAMP performance tuning.
Get the program Lookout for AMAZINGlY fast searching in Outlook. It's unbelievably fast...
http://www.lookoutsoft.com/
If you weren't so out of touch, you would realize that MS has bought Lookout for this very reason. Better luck next time! Jackass
In both situations, people are getting end-users to do the testing for them. Only it's not very likely for you to die a fiery death if Thunderbird crashes...unless it's a Ford Thunderbird :)
I tried that on my laptop. Found I set Thunderbird to the default email client, and it needed Outlook as the default email client in order to migrate.
The Outlook Calendar, Tasks, and Notes apparently did not migrate. I do not think that Thunderbird has support for those yet. Which leaves me stuck between using Thunderbird and Outlook.
Also missing in Thunderbird is the virus vault feature of AVG Antivirus, which works with Outlook, but has no support for Thunderbird.
Also missing was the Intergration or synching with my Cell Phone, PalmOS device, and iPaq, I fond Thunderbird was missing these as well.
Also missing was integration with my Timex Datalink watch, no support for that either.
Thunderbird was not able to migrate accounts I use in Hotmail with Outlook XP(2002). I heard there may be an external program for that to convert Hotmail into POP3, but from what I read of it, it was still in beta and not properly tested.
GPG using Engimail or whatever it was called, did not work properly. I am not sure what went wrong, but I am unable to encrypt and decrypt messages. I cannot get GPG working with Outlook either, and I have to fall back to PGP. I have the latest version of GPG, but it says it cannot find my private keys, despite me loading them, and creating a new one just in case, it still reports they are missing. Fbog! I think this is more of a GPG problem than a Thunderbird one.
Should I ever decide to read/write a MS-Exchange account, will Thunderbird ever support that?
Thunderbird junk mail treats each account seperately. I use Spambayes with Outlook which learns from all the email accounts and can filter spam on account B by learning from account A.
Also the email rules only work on one email account, I have to create duplicate rules for each email account (I have four POP3/SMTP accounts) to filter mail just right. Also I am confused as to what SMTP server it uses to send mail. I am not yet sure how to pick one, it seems to use the same SMTP server for each account, this may be seen as possible Spam by Spam filters, until I can figure it out.
So I am stuck with Outlook until Thunderbird can properly address these issues.
Remember, Slashdot does not have a -1 disagree moderation, and no, troll, flamebait, and overrated are not substitutes.
Does anyone have details or have a way to figure out the time for people outside of the US?
Sleep, she is for the weak..
I use the Seamonkey when I surf. How can I use Thunderbird to read this mail?
all hail mutt!
Something I've noticed in trying to install on others' computers is that you can import mail, prefs, etc from many other clients... except Mozilla Mail. What's up with that?
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a youtube comments section scrolling - forever.
Everyone in the office loves FireFox and Thunderbird. But, we absolutely cannot use Thunderbird. Most of our clients work in MS Exchange-Outlook environments and whenever they make an attachment it shows up on our end as a file named "Part 1.2".
We can use Fentun to convert the file, usually, but that gets very old very quickly if you get several of them a day.
I've been told this is a Microsoft RTF encoding problem, but they are not going to fix it. Until Mozilla gets this "bug" resolved we'll never convert.
"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
Well to start with it appears that there no way to move several years of Pegasus data into Thunderbird. In terms of features, it seems to have less than Pegasus, as well as lacking some things that I would really like - such as an integrated hot-syncable calendar and easy filter setup. (which I admit Eudora does pretty well).
My guess is that Thunderbird will eventually approach the feature set that is available elsewhere, and I may move over to a Firefox/Thunderbird combo, but it'll be a while yet.
Three Squirrels
In order for Thunderbird to be something it is going to have to do something very well that no other mail client does.
I suggest full, complete, and amazing integration with GPG/PGP. In such a way that *every* user can make use of it. I'm talking "as a part of the intro wizard"-easy.
I like how you're comfortable with the occasional exploit, as if "being better than Outlook Express" were a redeeming quality.
AKA: get a real mail server
"I like how you're comfortable with the occasional exploit..."
;)
It's worth mentioning that Linux and Mozilla have occasional exploits as well.
"... as if "being better than Outlook Express" were a redeeming quality."
In a sense, it is. If anybody here actually used Outlook >2000 next to OE, they'd understand the drag OE's had on OL's reputation. Just like how a bunch of dumbasses here don't know the difference between Windows 98 and Windows 2000 and tee hee hoddle haw at every stale BSOD joke.
So you'll pardon me if I don't take any real offense to your comment. If your opinion of any given software is based mostly on Slashdot stereotypes, then you're not in much of a position to take pokes at somebody who rises to its defense.
"Derp de derp."
Users stick to Outlook because of the Outlook Calendar in many cases.
"Sunbird" just sucks ass.
Where are the plans to address this and create a triumphant calendar component?
I've switched a few users over - but they all complain about how much better the Outlook calendar is. At least with Outlook they can send/receive invitations and add them to the calendar easier.
My Mozilla 1.5 got sick ("DNS" problems), and upgrading wouldn't fix it, so I did a new install (finally settled on Mozilla 1.7 after trying everything). I still don't have all my old mail moved over.
I can't migrate my users from Outlook to Tbird because (among other things) Outlook can tell you who you replied or forwarded the email to and when; Tbird/IMAP can only say "replied". Duh yeah, good audit trail.
Not quite ready for prime time business use yet.
And of course you import the mail and leave behind the calendar (linked to the mail), the notes (linked to the mail), the diary (linked to the mail)... hmm, I don't think they'll go for it.
I use it myself & love it, don't get me wrong. But for business use, it's not quite there yet.
-- ST
when getting my mail from outlook 2 weeks ago, it didnt bring over any of my attachments. (slight piss off)
I too have had errors migrating from both Outlook and Outlook Express. I plan to be part of this bash.
Also, when importing from Outlook it would be nice to be able to integrate, instead of keeping the Outlook Address Book and mail folders separate from the native T-Bird ones. I want migrate and dump Outlook. Why do I need two separate trees within Thunderbird?
No it isn't. Linux isn't an email client, and one isn't occasional.
Again, no it's not redeeming.
There are 11 types of people in the world: those who can count in binary, and those who can't.
"Again, no it's not redeeming."
I meant in the sense that it didn't earn that reputation to begin with. Differentiating the two makes a big difference when the percpetion is ill-defined.
"Derp de derp."
It's nice that it supports multiple accounts /yes too lazy to look if I can set that to something different. Would rather have it set to list out all sites instead of going to a keyword which is generally not the site i'm looking for. So the only real problem is the lack of a check all accounts
but my only problem is that the small dropdown tab to check all accounts is gone. So still using mozilla suite. Also hate how firefox sometimes goes to a default site.
until they add the native ability or the ability for some plugin to do webmail support like for hotmail and such, there's no point in many people migrating. asking them to get some hacked tool that acts like a local pop server or registering their webmail account so they can download is bullshit answer.
i volunteered to write one or make the modifications but no one wanted to help me.
(This guy actually answers the question!)
The one thing that OE does really well is lets you setup your accounts/identities in a very logical manner.
Thunderbird was really close but not quite there last time I checked. I'll try again though.
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
I missed painfully an option to import mails and settings from Mozilla Mail. But there was no such option. You have to copy the data manually and change the config file with an text editor.
I use Firefox for browsing of course, and I keep checking and trying the various Mozilla.org mail/news client releases, but so far nothing touches Mulberry for ease of use and functionality with my IMAP mail stores.
Oops, that was supposed to be tell it TO Mulberry :)
I've been doing this for some time now (IMAP, Squid, Thunderbird, SquirrelMail).
Only one problem though. I am yet to work out a way to have my address book shared between Thunderbird and SquirrelMail. Does anyone have any ideas on this? Ideally pine could join in on the shared address book action too, but that's not overly unnecessary.